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Bench McCain, Put in a Second Stringer

by Scott Ott for ScrappleFace · 114 Comments

ScrappleFace.com editor Scott Ott also writes non-satirical columns at Townhall.com. Here’s a brief excerpt of his latest and a link to read the rest…
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Bench McCain, Put in a Second Stringer
by Scott Ott at Townhall.com

Every sports fan knows there comes a time when the game plan has collapsed, and the star has stumbled. Wisdom and experience dictate that you yank the starter, put in a promising second stringer and go to Plan B.

For the Republican party, that time has come. It’s time to bench Sen. John McCain, and replace him with someone who can inspire the base of the Republican party as he, or she, stands boldly for its basic principles.
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114 responses so far ↓

  • 1 conserve-a-tip // Jul 31, 2008 at 10:21 am

    Another, “Wow”, Scott. I love the last section. He needs our hearts. yep. I’ve never voted ‘against’ anyone in all my years of voting - always ‘for’ - but this year, I am voting against Obama and McCain should take that as a real slap in the face.

    Oh yes, God, please bring America back to your Truth.

  • 2 Shelly // Jul 31, 2008 at 10:25 am

    Scott and c-a-t, AMEN!

    I said this morning to my husband that the best thing that ever happened to John McCain is Barak Obama. Even the Dem talking heads can’t tell anyone what he stands for. They’ve pegged an alection on their hopes that enough people have the same insanely based hatred for Bush that they do.

  • 3 camojack // Jul 31, 2008 at 10:42 am

    If only. We get to choose between bad and unthinkable.

    It’s a “no brainer”, but not one to relish…

  • 4 da Bunny // Jul 31, 2008 at 11:03 am

    If it had been left up to me, McCain wouldn’t even have made the team to begin with. :-(

  • 5 Shelly // Jul 31, 2008 at 11:07 am

    Talk about your typos, I meant election.

    Is it me or are the wv’s getting harder to read?

  • 6 upnorthlurkin // Jul 31, 2008 at 11:11 am

    They’re nearly impossible for my old eyes, Shelly. I can’t blame it on my monitor either since it’s new. Does Scott’s link to TH work or are we just overloading their site? I’m getting an error.

  • 7 Shelly // Jul 31, 2008 at 11:21 am

    I didn’t have any trouble following the link. And it’s a necessary, yet devastating column. McCain is a yawn, and the only thing that is going to save him are the incredible gaffes of Obama that the media isn’t able to hide.
    Speaking of MSM maneuvering, they’re completely ignoring the Edwards story. But Ann Coulter isn’t. If you need a laugh don’t miss her column this week. Also don’t miss Michelle Malkin’s blog this week. The mess.i.uh promised to help a school in Kenya that was named after him two years ago, and the principal now says they haven’t received “one shilling.”

  • 8 da Bunny // Jul 31, 2008 at 11:44 am

    Shelly, Ann’s column is great, and I read Michelle Malkin’s blog at least twice a day. As far as the “Breck Girl’s” dalliance, the LSM can try to hide it, but anyone who stands in line at the supermarket checkout is going to see it splashed all over the tabloids.

    I think a good “527″ ad would be running video of J’Wright ranting and raving in the pulpit, with Ludacris’ “Obama is Here” playing in the background. Then cut to pictures of Obama with the voiceovers of him criticizing “bitter clingers” and giving his “disparaging America” speech in Germany. Finish with “Do We Really Want a Divisive President Who Hates His Own Country?”

  • 9 Shelly // Jul 31, 2008 at 11:49 am

    da Bunny, I guess we’re not the America he knew?

  • 10 Ms RightWing, Ink // Jul 31, 2008 at 12:06 pm

    For what ever reason I can not pull down Scott’s article but I will try again later.

    If the idea he is conveying is what I am thinking then perhaps a thought from my brain would be make a quick call to the Bullpen.

    McCain is a weak pitcher and the other team is trying hard to hit homers.

    A good curve ball would be great at this moment. Better yet a spit ball.

  • 11 Mack // Jul 31, 2008 at 12:09 pm

    I had a friend ask me if I could post something just for old times. Frankly I have a hard time generating the excitement and passion for the current campaign. McCain is an honorable man but his “Maverick” attitude is only about 3 degrees different than his opponent.

    But in the interest of national defense I will support him. After all, the surrender option put forth by Obama is not an option.

    The question people ask me is whether or not Hillary will end up as the Dem VP candidate. I think not. She will sabotage Obama and do all she can to see him lose as will her supporters. That way she will only have to wait 4 years to run again instead of 8. If Obama does win he will be the party’s nominee in 2012 and by 2016 Hillary will be to old to be a viable candidate.

  • 12 everthink // Jul 31, 2008 at 12:43 pm

    PanamaRed.

    One other thing:

    Barack Obama does qualify for membership in the Sons of the American Revolution. That’s not family lore, I have the documentation.

    ET

  • 13 Hawkeye // Jul 31, 2008 at 1:10 pm

    McCain seemed to have more fire in his belly when he was running against Mitt Romney than he does against Obama. If he’s afraid he might offend Mr. Obamanable, then he shouldn’t be running for the office. When you’re President, you can’t worry about offending people… you’ve got to lead on the basis of principle.

    wv = Admiralty Traviata — An opera by Giuseppe Verdi (Joe Green to you), about the trials and tribulations of life in the British Admiralty… I think.

  • 14 Hawkeye // Jul 31, 2008 at 1:15 pm

    Oh yeah… eleventeenth?

    wv = Rambler use — I haven’t used a Rambler in years :smile:

  • 15 Mack // Jul 31, 2008 at 1:37 pm

    Good afternoon people. I was asked by a friend to join the conversation today. It would seem Barak Hussien Obama has been interviewing the Governor of Virginia as his running mate.

    The question I post to the learned such as never think’:

    Did Hillary turn him down because she is trying to sabotage him, or did he kick her to the curb in ear of his life?

    If she was his VP he would have to sleep with one eye open. One heart beat away from the Oval Office would be to tempting for her.

    On the other hand, if she can sabotage him she only has to wait four years for her next shot at the WhiteHouse.

    If B-Hussien wins she will have to wait 8.

  • 16 upnorthlurkin // Jul 31, 2008 at 1:49 pm

    For a good belly laugh, the folks over here have taken the inflate your tires suggestion of Uuhhhbummer’s and some of our (Scrappler) concerns about the size of his head (ego) to a hillarious conclusion…over on the right hand side of the page…the new, the wonderful, The Dashboard Obama!!
    wv rattles by must be that Rambler?!

  • 17 Shelly // Jul 31, 2008 at 2:05 pm

    From the Corner:

    Pop quiz for the press corps. Which of the following phrases is not attributable to Sen. Obama?:

    —”People of the world — this is our moment.”

    —”We are the change we’ve been waiting for.”

    —”I have become a symbol of the possibility of America returning to our best traditions.”

    —”I am the way and the truth and the life.”

    —”I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment… when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal.”

    —”I am a ..Citizen of the World.”

    —”Vero Possemus.”

    McCain can’t find something to work with here?

  • 18 conserve-a-tip // Jul 31, 2008 at 2:10 pm

    Talking about amazing articles, this one is simply stunning. All I can say is, “Praise God!”

  • 19 JamesonLewis3rd // Jul 31, 2008 at 2:12 pm

    The People’s Cube is a great site.
    Reminds me of when I used to read my Mad Magazines, deciphering the satire and studying the artwork until the ink evaporated.
    ~~~~~
    Oh, thanks all for letting me know I’m not the only one squinting at the W/V.

  • 20 JamesonLewis3rd // Jul 31, 2008 at 3:01 pm

    While kicking McCain to the curb is not an unpleasant thought, exactly, I need to prayerfully ponder the premise as posedщ۪tis a serious matter, indeed.
    The MSM (as evidenced here) is in an increasingly out-of-control pirouette over the McCain ad which quite correctly categorizes BO as an airhead who is only a “star” because he’s a “star”.

    The “political nuclear attack” has left them clueless as evidenced by their furtive admission that there’s “[s]ome odd campaign news today. There’s a round of new campaign commercials that really have us scratching our heads here.”
    :shock:
    See, the ad is a slam-dunk. If they could get their heads around it, there would be an ear-shattering explosion of popping sounds. The clean-up would take months. I think I’ll start a Buzzard Farm.

  • 21 JamesonLewis3rd // Jul 31, 2008 at 3:25 pm

    All McCain has to do is serve up some of that lewd crust on a massive entertainment center everywhere he goes. Meanwhile, I’m building an earplug factory.

    BO is presented with yet another advantageous opportunity to kick a beloved and cherished idol and inspiration under the bus.

    I can’t help thinking it was intentional due to some personal animosity on the part of the pop star BO holds so dear—some sort of reverse-reverse-reverse psychology—perhaps he felt minimized by merely “being in the rotation” on BO’s music thingie.

  • 22 upnorthlurkin // Jul 31, 2008 at 4:15 pm

    Hi Mack! Long time! :lol:
    I see the resident censors left you hanging and wondering while they did their background check on ya! You’re in good company!

  • 23 Libby Gone // Jul 31, 2008 at 4:47 pm

    Great thoughts, Scott!
    I have believed it all along,
    ROMNEY/GONE™ 08!
    wv texture OATS, had em for b-fast today with my Mommy!

  • 24 everthink // Jul 31, 2008 at 5:23 pm

    Mack,

    “Did Hillary turn him down because she is trying to sabotage him, or did he kick her to the curb in (f)ear of his life?”

    Must I only choose one of the two answers you offer?

    While I’m disappointed in Hillary, I have said more than once, making her his running mate might be his best protection. A booby trap, kind of like Cheney is for “The Booby”. But, apparently Barack doesn’t want to have to deal with her.

    So, that ship has sailed for Hillary; she’ll be to old in eight years, unless she want’s to try a “McCain”.

    But, don’t worry Hillary and Bill will work to elect Obama because “You know in your heart Barry is right”.

    But, my friends, I think old John will ruin it for septuagenarians, except maybe, for an exceptionally wise one, like Fred.

    I like Joe Biden, or maybe Chuck Hagel.

    I liked McCain, until he lost his mind, and sold out!

    ET

  • 25 Fred Sinclair // Jul 31, 2008 at 5:38 pm

    c-a-t #18 - WoW! If this is true - it will be interesting to see how the MSM covers it.

    If there was a reverse and Nancy Pelosi announced from Iran that she had converted to Islam and was now a member of Hamas. Headlines around the world would announce her conversion. Might be interesting to see her photo on all of the world’s newspapers wearing her new burka.

    IN GOD WE TRUST

  • 26 Fred Sinclair // Jul 31, 2008 at 5:54 pm

    JL3rd #’s 20/21 - I recall Rush saying “Don’t ever make the mistake of underestimating Mrs. Hillary Rodham Clinton. She still hasn’t released her delegates to Obama. We have yet to learn of her October surprise. Don’t believe everything the drive-by media tells you. she still intends to either steal the nomination at the convention or blow him out of the water in October.”

    (That may not be a 100% verbatim quote, but it’s close enough for Government work)

    HillBilly, Inc. has a track record of successfully snatching hats out of rabbits.

    B.O. STINKS

  • 27 conserve-a-tip // Jul 31, 2008 at 5:56 pm

    Fred, I just thought it was absolutely stunning. I doubt that you will hear much about it…especially his take on Islam, but it’s ok. We know the truth and as he has found, the truth will make you free!

  • 28 Fred Sinclair // Jul 31, 2008 at 6:01 pm

    Any good magician worth his salt can pull a rabbit out of a hat. HillBilly, Inc. is capable of pulling off things you, I and any halfway normal person would never dream of doing.

    If you are a disbeliever, just ask Vince.

    B.O. STILL STINKS

  • 29 Beerme // Jul 31, 2008 at 7:13 pm

    Obama is nothing but another politician-perhaps more so.
    For anyone to be elated about his possible Presidency makes that person foolish because they can’t see what is so clearly right in front of their face.

    Of course, McCain is no winner, either. Best of two evils? I guess…

  • 30 Fred Sinclair // Jul 31, 2008 at 7:48 pm

    c-a-t #18 - As with Saul and his encounter with Jesus on the Damascus Road; Very few of the Christians could, would or wanted to believe this Paul was ?really a Christian?.

    It took Paul a good while to “prove himself” s he wrote to the Church in Rome - Rom. 6:4 which basically says that without a changed lifestyle it’s all smoke and mirrors.(Fred’s Translation) > (”….. should live a new kind of life.”GWV) (”…..walk in newness of life.”KJV)

    We’ll see what develops with Mr. Masab Yousuf.

    IN GOD WE TRUST

  • 31 Fred Sinclair // Jul 31, 2008 at 7:52 pm

    Typo correction:

    this Paul was “really a Christian”

    “prove himself” as he wrote

  • 32 conserve-a-tip // Jul 31, 2008 at 8:55 pm

    Fred, this man, just like Paul, is putting himself at great risk to make the statements that he is. I guess he knows this. He has no protection even his in the US and so I think that we will have to pray God’s hedge around him.

  • 33 JamesonLewis3rd // Jul 31, 2008 at 10:01 pm

    As I may have mentioned before, BO is a classic case study in Obsequious Narcissism.
    His metamorphosis from chameleon to chameleon was predictable and predicted.
    The horrorshow has yet to play itself out—the next round has something to do with cards, I believe, just like the previous and following rounds.
    You can shuffle them if you want to, it doesn’t matter; they’re all race cards.
    I’m bored with it, the novelty has worn off. Big Time.
    Ante up.

  • 34 Ms RightWing, Ink // Jul 31, 2008 at 10:54 pm

    Mack

    Good to hear from you. Don’t be a stranger ( like me )

  • 35 everthink // Jul 31, 2008 at 10:55 pm

    “… makes that person foolish because they can’t see what is so clearly right in front of their face.”

    Ain’t that the truth!

    Especially after 7 years of disaster and decline.

    ET

  • 36 everthink // Aug 1, 2008 at 12:55 am

    Fred,

    You say:

    “It took Paul a good while to “prove himself” s he wrote to the Church in Rome - Rom. 6:4 which basically says that without a changed lifestyle it’s all smoke and mirrors.(Fred’s Translation) > (”….. should live a new kind of life.”GWV) (”…..walk in newness of life.”KJV)”

    Was there anything about Paul, in particular, that caused the church to distrust and fear him? Did it maybe have anything to do with Stephen’s stoning and other persecution of Christians? Did he have connection to the Sanhedrin?

    As usual your statements are misleading and divisive. Once again you place yourself in judgment of others.

    ET

  • 37 gafisher // Aug 1, 2008 at 7:17 am

    dB Re#4: “… McCain wouldn’t even have made the team …

    He’s not a member of the team — he picked up the jersey in the souvenir stand. The closest approximation would be Hillary’s “I’ve always been a Yankees fan.”

  • 38 gafisher // Aug 1, 2008 at 7:25 am

    Hawkeye Re#14: “I haven’t used a Rambler in years.

    Don’t forget, Mitt’s dad was the original ramblin‘ man.

  • 39 conserve-a-tip // Aug 1, 2008 at 8:19 am

    ET, re: #36 - again it appears that you know not of what you speak. Did you even read the article? Fred was simply making an accurate comparison of Paul’s former life and his need to “prove” himself with Yousuf’s former life and his recognition of people’s questions. I have a feeling you don’t even know what we are talking about.

  • 40 Maggie // Aug 1, 2008 at 8:40 am

    Scott…. Once again, excellent blog .

    CAT….# 18 is worth the read and very uplifting.There is a new light shining in the midst of great darkness.

  • 41 JQ // Aug 1, 2008 at 10:47 am

    Beerme, re: post on last thread-

    Thanks for your response to my comments. I agree with what you wrote 100%. I should revise my earlier statement that slaves were considered to be animals; rather, they were treated like animals in hopes of degrading their collective sense of self-worth and keeping them in check.

    I agree that the issue needs to be relegated to the past, where it belongs. Unfortunately, that can’t happen until both sides agree to do so. Deeply-held racial sentiments still linger in several backwards-thinking people; blacks preach resentful anger from their pulpits, whites respond with frustration over their resistance to moving on.

    I guess all I’m trying to accomplish is to point out that telling people to “get over it” rarely does the job. It’s up to each of us to do what we can; in this case, it’s just to be patient and wait it out.

    NOTE: This does not translate into appeasement; I think that’s what everyone is misinterpreting my comments as. Don’t give them what they’re demanding, but don’t fuel the fire, either.

  • 42 boberinyetagain // Aug 1, 2008 at 11:19 am

    JQ, you’re back! Been a while…

    Hi all, yep…rock and a hard place…lousy choices both. What a shame

  • 43 Libby Gone // Aug 1, 2008 at 11:34 am

    Bench McCain and put in second stringer.
    In music terms that means sitting John at the piano and getting a stand up Bass player. Hmmm.

  • 44 everthink // Aug 1, 2008 at 11:37 am

    Beerme,

    Re: 29

    Since you have thrown a rock or two at my poor grammar, shouldn’t that be “the better of two evils”?

    ET

  • 45 JamesonLewis3rd // Aug 1, 2008 at 11:42 am

    I think it should be “the least (or lesser) of two evils” .
    :shock:

  • 46 everthink // Aug 1, 2008 at 11:43 am

    JQ,

    You’re OK.

    ET

  • 47 Shelly // Aug 1, 2008 at 11:44 am

    c-a-t, what a beautiful story! We should all pray for this man. I tend to doubt that an unrepentant Hamas terrorist could say positive things about Israel, even if he were a fake.

    McCain points out that Obama has similar celebretity status and intellect as Spears and Hilton, Obama plays the race card. Beerme rightly acknowledges that despite his shortcomings McCain is a better choice than Obama and ET tries to attack his grammar. Notice a theme?

  • 48 everthink // Aug 1, 2008 at 11:47 am

    JL3,

    That’s one for you!

    ET

  • 49 conserve-a-tip // Aug 1, 2008 at 11:49 am

    Shelly, Beerme needs to quote Obama, “Is that the best you’ve got??”

  • 50 Shelly // Aug 1, 2008 at 11:51 am

    JQ, I don’t think anyone here wants to fuel any fire. It’s just that slavery existed thousands of years before the US, exists to this day, has been practiced by many nations, cultures and religions and was only evil when the US did it a century and a half ago. Its the “blame America first and always” piece of this that I mainly object to.

  • 51 Shelly // Aug 1, 2008 at 12:10 pm

    the mess.i.uh:

    “I love the art of hip-hop; I don’t always love the message of hip-hop,” he told BET earlier this year. “There are times where even . . . with the artists I love, you know, there’s a message that is not only sometimes degrading to women; not only uses the n-word a little too frequently; but — also something I’m really concerned about — it’s always talking about material things.”

    A little too frequently? How often is okay?

  • 52 Maggie // Aug 1, 2008 at 12:17 pm

    John McCain IS the second string.

  • 53 conserve-a-tip // Aug 1, 2008 at 12:18 pm

    Shelly - re #50

    1 Corinthians 7:21 - Were you a slave when you called? Don’t let it trouble you - although if you can gain your freedom, do so. For he who was a slave when he was called by the Lord is the Lord’s freeman; similarly he who was a free man when he was called is Christ’s slave.

    So evidently they had slavery back in Christ’s time too, huh? I know…”duh”.

    But think about this, Nanny Pelosi can apologize for slavery all day long, but it isn’t going to do any good unless she can accept Christ on behalf of everyone too.
    Romans 7:14 We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin.

    Funny how the world focuses on the wrong issues and think that they are being soooooo good.

  • 54 everthink // Aug 1, 2008 at 12:21 pm

    CAT, no I didn’t read the link in 18. Your point is good!

    But, isn’t Fred’s answer, in such matters, always the same?

    Some ordination councils are less demanding.

    Is “snake handling” the proof required?

    Embrace the brother!

    ET

  • 55 everthink // Aug 1, 2008 at 12:25 pm

    “Is that the best you’ve got??”

    Isn’t that the point of this thread?

    ET

  • 56 conserve-a-tip // Aug 1, 2008 at 12:28 pm

    ET, at the risk of hurting your feelings, isn’t your answer in such matters always the same? It’s the pot calling the kettle black. You’ve admitted that you didn’t read the article, but you just ‘reacted’ to Fred’s observations without any background. “Is that all you’ve got?” is the point of this post.

  • 57 JQ // Aug 1, 2008 at 12:41 pm

    Shelly-

    I get what you’re saying, to a degree. Like I said before, though, I don’t see where anyone is condemning American slavery while condoning it anywhere else. Slavery anywhere is bad.

    Maybe the reason for America feeling such remorse over its past is because we do consider ourselves to be a nation of morals (even if most refuse to acknowledge where those morals came from); we do honestly believe in basic goodwill towards our fellow man. Perhaps the fact that we can look back and see such a stain on our own history disgusts and angers us more than other nations without such moral codes.

    I agree that Americans can sometimes get into a self-deprecating rut. A healthy self-image requires a delicate balance of being aware of our faults as well as our strengths; some folks have a hard time overcoming the “faults” side of that list.

    That’s one of the things I like about the Republican crowd; there’s no lack of focus on the basic strengths that made (and continue to make) our country strong.

    May God continue to bless those who call on His name.

  • 58 JamesonLewis3rd // Aug 1, 2008 at 12:42 pm

    Shelly~~
    Yes. Yes. And, yes!
    ~~~~~
    I wonder how this election campaign would look through the filter of a previous campaign; the filter of Family Values.

    BO has to bob his head, grin, and wiggle his ears while lurking (all hunched over) in secluded, dank hide-a-ways, as he listens to the digital sounds he worships in an attempt to shield his unsuspecting, innocent family from the diabolically putrid filth.

    I’d pay (not really) to see what’s in the Multi-Disc, 1200W, CD Player in the bullet-proof, 900HP HUM-V in which he takes his kids to MickeyD’s to play.

  • 59 JQ // Aug 1, 2008 at 12:52 pm

    Re: 58

    I wonder how this election campaign would look through the filter of a previous campaign; the filter of Family Values.

    Ain’t it the truth?

    Unfortunately, all he has to do is trump McCain’s moral code, which includes leaving his wife for one of his (multiple) mistresses. There’s a victory for the American Right.

    It’s too bad politics is too dirty a business for a decent man to want to get involved in it…

  • 60 everthink // Aug 1, 2008 at 1:10 pm

    JL3,

    “BO has to bob his head, grin, and wiggle his ears while lurking (all hunched over) in secluded, dank hide-a-ways, as he listens to the digital sounds he worships in an attempt to shield his unsuspecting, innocent family from the diabolically putrid filth.”

    Do you understand all of that is only in your head?

    ET

  • 61 Shelly // Aug 1, 2008 at 1:44 pm

    JQ, have you heard anyone denounce current slavery with the same fervor? Because I haven’t. We have an African-American as a candidate for president, serving in various levels of public office - not to mention two as Secretary of State - the highest paid person on TV, loads of successful entertainers and athletes, corporate leaders, etc. and yet all we hear is how unfair we are. All the while these same people refuse to do anything to change what is going on in city schools. It is not genuine in any way.

  • 62 boberinyetagain // Aug 1, 2008 at 2:10 pm

    According to Anti-Slavery International (ASI), a human-rights organization, more than 200 million slaves live in the world today-more than at any time in history and 50 times more than the 4 million slaves freed by Lincoln.

    http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EPF/is_22_98/ai_54232445

  • 63 JamesonLewis3rd // Aug 1, 2008 at 2:47 pm

    News from my home planet.

  • 64 JQ // Aug 1, 2008 at 2:49 pm

    Re: 61

    JQ, have you heard anyone denounce current slavery with the same fervor? Because I haven’t.

    Actually, yes. We hear about the ethnic cleansings and such throughout the world from time to time on the nightly news, protests, etc. We know more about American slavery because this is America. Our next-door neighbors are direct descendants of American slaves, and their parents couldn’t vote. Naturally, the more personal instance of slavery is most prominent.

    All the while these same people refuse to do anything to change what is going on in city schools.

    I agree, for the most part. The people who continue to cry “discriminiation!” are just furthering the problem.

    Everyone’s been booing Bush’s “No Child Left Behind,” and I can’t figure out why. What’s wrong with a program that requires minimum competencies before allowing promotion?

    As I understand it, the main problem is crooked teachers falsifying scores to get federal funds; the problem is with corrupt bureaucrats, not the testing system. If a program like that could just be refined and given half a chance, I think we’d see a huge turnaround. I believe that has the potential to make the single biggest difference in closing the gap between the poor and the middle class. It’s a perfect example of someone trying to make a difference and being lambasted for it.

  • 65 Libby Gone // Aug 1, 2008 at 2:57 pm

    JL3 #62,
    Thats cool. You Ontario Lacus was discovered on Titan out in my neck of the woods, so to speak?

  • 66 JQ // Aug 1, 2008 at 2:58 pm

    On the flip-side; if a hearty education is the single best hope for closing the class divide, then the mainstream rap music industry is the single best hope for widening it. Anyone endorsing it all is a poor judge of character, in my mind.

    I would love to see the day when someone can give me an example of a rapper without any of the negative elements listed by Obama himself in Shelly’s post. I had about 20 seconds of optimism when I heard about Kanye West for the first time; that was short-lived.

  • 67 Libby Gone // Aug 1, 2008 at 2:59 pm

    I HATE DIAL UP, and I can’t spell.

  • 68 Libby Gone // Aug 1, 2008 at 3:01 pm

    Zawahiri is toast? I guess I am in the boonies.
    Can’t wait to get home.

  • 69 boberinyetagain // Aug 1, 2008 at 3:01 pm

    According to Anti-Slavery International (ASI), a human-rights organization, more than 200 million slaves live in the world today-more than at any time in history and 50 times more than the 4 million slaves freed by Lincoln.

  • 70 JQ // Aug 1, 2008 at 3:05 pm

    As a disclaimer to #65 above, I have nothing against the hip-hop/rap style of music. One of my favorite artists is TobyMac (aka, Toby MacKeehan of dcTalk fame), a Christian hip-hop artist of mainstream quality. I’m also a fan of Kirk Franklin, KJ-52, and John Reuben. I love Eminem’s sound, but…yeah, no explanation needed there.

    My post is strictly in reference to mainstream rap; it seems to be impossible for a mainstream rapper to make his/her way without tainting their music.

  • 71 everthink // Aug 1, 2008 at 3:22 pm

    “As Mankind becomes more liberal, they will be more apt to allow that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are equally entitled to the protections of civil government. I hope ever to see America among the foremost nations of justice and liberality.” — George Washington

  • 72 JQ // Aug 1, 2008 at 3:43 pm

    Geez, you are a muckraker, aren’t you, ET? Hostilities not coming fast enough for you?

    Don’t get too excited about his use of the word. Today’s conservatism was Washington’s liberalism. Washington would have a coronary if he saw the kind of crap getting pushed through the Congress of his United States.

  • 73 Libby Gone // Aug 1, 2008 at 3:45 pm

    “This is the Peoples House not the Pelosi Politburo.”
    I think Mitch Chee Gon is turning RED.
    Get back to work Ms. Pelosi.

  • 74 Shelly // Aug 1, 2008 at 4:18 pm

    She can’t Libby, she’s too busy selling books. ;-)

  • 75 conserve-a-tip // Aug 1, 2008 at 4:40 pm

    Shelly, that would be, “She’s too busy selling a copy of her book!”

  • 76 RedPepper // Aug 1, 2008 at 4:43 pm

    Good Afternoon, everyone.

    JQ #66: I’ve heard some very creative & clever “rap” from time to time, but not so much lately. I find the more recent stuff a competition between vile and viler. “Get Low” by The Yin-Yang Twins comes to mind …”

    Libby #67: You, too, are in dial-up Hell?
    Pobrocito! Lo siento mucho!

    boberin #69: Good post. Pity more people don’t focus attention on the evils that are being perpetrated today!

    Shelly #74: Maybe folks are stocking up on fuel … Winter will be here sooner than we think …

  • 77 everthink // Aug 1, 2008 at 4:49 pm

    JQ,

    What! I posted a George Washington quote without comment (unless you count bold letters), or signature, and you call me a “muckraker”!

    “Today’s conservatism was Washington’s liberalism.”

    So say you all! But, I say today’s conservatism seeks to deny the Bill of Rights, impose religious tests, and promote a hypocritical moral standard that Republican leadership only pretends to observe. Witness your comment about John McCain’s adultery and the many recent examples corruption.

    “Hostilities not coming fast enough for you?”

    They’ve been coming for some time now, but I know how these “Chickenhawks” feel about those “who cut and run”.

    “Washington would have a coronary if he saw the kind of crap getting pushed through the Congress of his United States.”

    I disagree, but not much is getting pushed through right now; they cannot even investigate the many abuses of this corrupt administration.

    That will Change soon!

    ET

  • 78 conserve-a-tip // Aug 1, 2008 at 4:57 pm

    ET: “But, I say today’s conservatism seeks to deny the Bill of Rights, impose religious tests, and promote a hypocritical moral standard that Republican leadership only pretends to observe.

    So you say!!

  • 79 conserve-a-tip // Aug 1, 2008 at 4:59 pm

    I am just loving what is going on in the House of Representatives. Surprise. Surprise. The conservatives have finally gotten some chutzpa!

    I am beginning to think that the Republicans do better when they are the minority party and have a Republican president. They just seem to fight harder for the right issues. When they get the majority, they get lazy and liberal.

  • 80 JQ // Aug 1, 2008 at 5:16 pm

    [T]oday’s conservatism seeks to…promote a hypocritical moral standard that Republican leadership only pretends to observe. Witness your comment about John McCain’s adultery and the many recent examples corruption.

    I think you’re mistaking politicians for conservatives; I don’t know that the two can ever truly be the same person.

    George Washington didn’t seek office (at least his first term), which is one of the many reasons I admire him. If only we could find that candidate who doesn’t really want the job, but is uniquely suited to executing its responsibilities, and thus takes the job out of a sense of duty. I truly believe that George Washington loved his country more than he loved his own life.

    How many politicians have you known that you could say the same about?

  • 81 everthink // Aug 1, 2008 at 5:17 pm

    “Why quit our own to stand upon foreign ground? Why, by interweaving our destiny with that of any part of Europe, entangle our peace and prosperity in the toils of European ambition, rivalship, interest, humor or caprice?” — Washington’s Farewell Address 1796

    How do you think he would have reacted to our occupation of Iraq? Let alone our misguided (if not dishonest) preemptive attack on that country?

    ET

  • 82 Libby Gone // Aug 1, 2008 at 5:18 pm

    CAT #79,
    I agree.
    OBAMA/PELOSI ‘08!
    Shut this place down!™

  • 83 Libby Gone // Aug 1, 2008 at 5:18 pm

    CAT #79,
    I agree.
    OBAMA/PELOSI ‘08!
    Lights out is our energy plan!™

  • 84 gafisher // Aug 1, 2008 at 5:25 pm

    C-A-T Re#79: ““She’s too busy selling a copy of her book!”

    If you think she’s busy now, wait until her book tour starts and she actually has to read it! (I wonder if she got Jim Wright’s book deal.)

  • 85 everthink // Aug 1, 2008 at 5:32 pm

    JQ,

    “I think you’re mistaking politicians for conservatives.”

    I’m talking about the politicians “conservatives” vote for, like Dumbyah and McCain!

    “I truly believe that George Washington loved his country more than he loved his own life.”

    There has never been a man who was, by his own merit, his equal in our county.

    How many politicians have you known that you could say the same about?”

    JFK, RFK, and Barack Obama now knows his own life is at risk! Secret Service protection was provide months ago because of Right-Wing threats!

    ET

  • 86 Libby Gone // Aug 1, 2008 at 5:36 pm

    Et#81,
    Get your history straight, like Pelosi’s smile.
    Gen. Washington authorized the invasion of another country, one of your liberal bastions Canada.
    http://www.americanrevolution.com/AmRevInvasionCanada.htm
    I am sure he would concur with the current adminstrations efforts to protect the country he so dearly loved.
    ~Libby

  • 87 conserve-a-tip // Aug 1, 2008 at 5:49 pm

    Oh ET, Pahleeaaasse. Threats to Obama’s life by rightwing conservatives??? Are you kidding? Malcom X was killed by one of his own - probably Farrakhan. It is VERY possible that Kennedy was killed by one of his own, hiring Oswald to do the dirty work. Ever read Man on the Sixth Floor? I know some of the people about whom the book is written.

    RFK was killed by a mixed up kid who dabbled in the occult who said he was mad because Kennedy supported Israel. I’m trying to think of how the conservatives feel about Israel…oh yeah…right…they like Israel.

    And finally, I hate to tell you, but Washington was just a man. He was a fallible man just like any other man. He had scandals and he made people mad and he had bad ideas just like other politicians. The difference is that he was born at a time when people understood how dangerous government could be. He understood how precious was the freedom from government he and the rest of the country had achieved. He was from a time when people respected others no matter what their ideas. He was from a time where men were statesmen and gentlemen. AND don’t forget, that he was from a time when women were seen and not heard. So when you wax nostalgic for George Washington, please put him into the context of reality.

    You know, it’s ok to have a difference of opinion, but it would be nice if you could be honest about your dishonesty.

  • 88 Libby Gone // Aug 1, 2008 at 6:07 pm

    I want one of those fancy hybrids!
    http://www.politico.com/blogs/thecrypt/0808/House_Dems_turn_out_out_the_light_but_GOP_keep_talking.html?showall
    Never thought of using wind power on an automobile!
    OBAMA/CARTER ‘08!
    Hoovervilles are simple public housing!™

  • 89 Fred Sinclair // Aug 1, 2008 at 6:46 pm

    There must have been PC liberals in King James day since “dulos”/slave is used in the N.T. over hundred times and is almost exclusively translated “servant”. I lived in Greece (Crete) for a year and a half and learned their language. “doulos” does indeed mean slave, (but ’servant’ sounds so much nicer)

    Later a bonded slave was used to identify slaves who were enemy soldiers captured in combat, Instead of sending them to ‘Club Gitmo’ they were put on the auction block and sold into slavery.

    John MacArthur preached a sermon that began with John 15:14-15, which reads, “You are My friends if you do what I command you. No longer do I call you slaves, for the slave does not know what his master is doing; but I have called you friends, for all things that I have heard from My Father I have made known to you.”

    Some translations replace the word “slave” for the words “servant” or “bondservant”. MacArthur goes on to explain that, for most passages throughout the New Testament that deal with servant and bondservant (a “non-word”), the original Greek word used is “doulos”. What is interesting about “doulos” is that it is literally the Greek word for slave.

    Throughout the sermon, MacArthur really hammers home what being “douloi” (slaves, plural) means. As Christians, we are not just Christ’s followers, we are His slaves. It makes sense, given that the Greek word for lord in the passage is “kurios”, which MacArthur explained as “a ruler that is high and above his subjects”. While a ruler may be able to order his servants around, he may not have complete ownership over their lives. As “douloi”, our lives are owned by Christ- it is no longer our own.

    MacArthur comments that it is hard to imagine God defining our relationship with Him in “less impossible” terms. If you are looking for a counter cultural definition of what a Christian ought to be, just look at how many times the New Testament uses “douloi” (127) in reference to followers of Christ.

    1Cor. 6:20 “For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s.”

    IN GOD WE TRUST

  • 90 everthink // Aug 1, 2008 at 6:48 pm

    CAT,

    I think I said: “Barack Obama now knows his own life is at risk! Secret Service protection was provide months ago because of Right-Wing threats!”

    “Malcom X was killed by one of his own - probably Farrakhan.”
    How do these names come into your mix?

    “And finally, I hate to tell you, but Washington was just a man. He was a fallible man just like any other man. ”

    I said: “There has never been a man who was, by his own merit, his equal in our county.”

    How smug you are; apparently, this is yet another thing you know little about, but feel an irresistible need to mock.

    Imagine it falling to me to defend George Washington among you “patriots”.

    Bring it on,

    ET

  • 91 RedPepper // Aug 1, 2008 at 6:56 pm

    c-a-t #79: “I am beginning to think that the Republicans do better when they are the minority … (w)hen they get the majority, they get lazy and liberal.”

    When they get the majority, they try to govern the way they’ve seen it done in the past. They use the tools that politicians have always used to bribe “take care of” their constituents, aka “bringing home the bacon.” And they are terrified of “offending” anyone by bluntly stating uncomfortable truths. If it were not for the insufferable arrogance of the left (“Now, don’t forget to inflate your tires, you morons comrades folks … ”), I wonder if the Republicans would ever manage to win elections!

    Grrrrr …

  • 92 DrivebyMeteor // Aug 1, 2008 at 7:13 pm

    “Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism.”

    — George Washington

  • 93 gafisher // Aug 1, 2008 at 7:14 pm

    RedPepper Re#89, The Republicans have been called “The Stupid Party” by those who deride their confidence in such illogical concepts as “responsibility,” “morality,” and personal freedom.” As such, Republicans are inherently more effective in the role of defending, rather than imposing, those concepts.

    For comparison, the Democrats are called “The Evil Party.”.

  • 94 conserve-a-tip // Aug 1, 2008 at 7:15 pm

    RedPepper, I think that it also has to do with the seducing feeling of power. When they don’t have it, they act like conservatives in order to prove that they warrant it, but then when they get it, they are so afraid of losing power that they become like the opposition. They don’t get it that the reason they got put into power in 1994 was because they acted like conservatives and the reason they lost it in 2006 was because they acted like liberals.

  • 95 conserve-a-tip // Aug 1, 2008 at 7:30 pm

    ET, there is no smugness there at all, but just calling you on statements that beg a challenge. Your statement that there has been no one to equal Washington is just plain silly. I love Washington too, but he isn’t the greatest man to have ever lived in this country. There were many before him, by his side and after him. Washington would have said that too.

    And regarding Obama’s secret service detail. That detail was ordered by Dick Durbin because he was concerned at the size of the crowds surrounding Obama. Your statement about the right wing threats is absurd and partisan.

    And regarding Malcom X, I put him into the mix because like Obama, he was black so that kills that argument if anyone insinuates that, but also, Obama holds Farrakhan in high esteem, as did Malcom X. Does that mean the Obama needs to be watching his back with this guy? Is that why he has a secret service detail?

    ET, I feel no animosity or superiority toward you at all and you can have legitimate debate all day long. But I resent when you throw out stupid allegations that have no merit and really, no purpose other than to inflame.

  • 96 mindknumbed kid // Aug 1, 2008 at 8:23 pm

    This could explain the secret service request…
    Proverbs 28:1
    The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.

    Perhaps the gods of the Godless party are not worthy of their trust? The number of my days are in the hands of God Almighty why (or what) should I fear? We could banter about the days speculating faith vs. wisdom, but in the end even the best security detail cannot do what only God is capable of doing. What we need to know is whether or not we are in His favor and will. With the track record that the Clinton’s have of “losing” close acquaintances, you will not convince me that Obologna has anyone more to fear. Except maybe the God that made him.

  • 97 mindknumbed kid // Aug 1, 2008 at 8:36 pm

    re#94 (last paragraph)
    Proverbs 17:4-28

    4A wicked doer giveth heed to false lips; and a liar giveth ear to a naughty tongue.

    5Whoso mocketh the poor reproacheth his Maker: and he that is glad at calamities shall not be unpunished.

    6Children’s children are the crown of old men; and the glory of children are their fathers.

    7Excellent speech becometh not a fool: much less do lying lips a prince.

    8A gift is as a precious stone in the eyes of him that hath it: whithersoever it turneth, it prospereth.

    9He that covereth a transgression seeketh love; but he that repeateth a matter separateth very friends.

    10A reproof entereth more into a wise man than an hundred stripes into a fool.

    11An evil man seeketh only rebellion: therefore a cruel messenger shall be sent against him.

    12Let a bear robbed of her whelps meet a man, rather than a fool in his folly.

    13Whoso rewardeth evil for good, evil shall not depart from his house.

    14The beginning of strife is as when one letteth out water: therefore leave off contention, before it be meddled with.

    15He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the LORD.

    16Wherefore is there a price in the hand of a fool to get wisdom, seeing he hath no heart to it?

    17A friend loveth at all times, and a brother is born for adversity.

    18A man void of understanding striketh hands, and becometh surety in the presence of his friend.

    19He loveth transgression that loveth strife: and he that exalteth his gate seeketh destruction.

    20He that hath a froward heart findeth no good: and he that hath a perverse tongue falleth into mischief.

    21He that begetteth a fool doeth it to his sorrow: and the father of a fool hath no joy.

    22A merry heart doeth good like a medicine: but a broken spirit drieth the bones.

    23A wicked man taketh a gift out of the bosom to pervert the ways of judgment.

    24Wisdom is before him that hath understanding; but the eyes of a fool are in the ends of the earth.

    25A foolish son is a grief to his father, and bitterness to her that bare him.

    26Also to punish the just is not good, nor to strike princes for equity.

    27He that hath knowledge spareth his words: and a man of understanding is of an excellent spirit.

    28Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.

  • 98 everthink // Aug 1, 2008 at 8:47 pm

    CAT,

    “But I resent when you throw out stupid allegations that have no merit and really, no purpose other than to inflame.”

    “Obama holds Farrakhan in high esteem!”

    Prove it!

    ET

  • 99 everthink // Aug 1, 2008 at 9:20 pm

    MNK,

    An excellent 24 points, would you mind expanding on each of them?

    ET

  • 100 Fred Sinclair // Aug 1, 2008 at 9:52 pm

    Mark 14:7 For ye have the poor with you always, and whensoever ye will ye may do them good: but me ye have not always.

    Like the poor, we Scrapplers have the trolls with us always….we can pray for them but if they have been “given over” or God has hardened their hearts or closed their spiritual eyes - then they are without hope.

    Personally I’ve sworn off of trolls. I imagine it isn’t as hard as swearing off of alcohol or tobacco…. wonder if there is 12 step program for troll addicts. I have never read anything a troll wrote that was in any way positive, uplifting, patriotic but rather they are mired in their self pity, with moaning, griping sob-sister negativity. Truly a pathetic bunch. I think they are mostly masochistic and they come here to revel in ecstasy as they are supplied with their ‘fix’ getting debased and humiliated as we pile truth upon truth refuting their lies and brainwashed psycho-babble.

    That’s enough about things like them; by the way - have you heard the dirty joke about little Jimmy? seems that when school let out, he tripped on the steps and fell into a mud puddle - boy was he ever dirty.

    B.O. STINKS

  • 101 mindknumbed kid // Aug 1, 2008 at 10:09 pm

    Sure…they all say don’t be foolish enough to vote for a Socialist Democrat, even if he is Barak Obama.

  • 102 mindknumbed kid // Aug 1, 2008 at 10:13 pm

    Ever

  • 103 mindknumbed kid // Aug 1, 2008 at 10:17 pm

    Your answer is waiting moderation, right before “ever”.

  • 104 mindknumbed kid // Aug 1, 2008 at 11:09 pm

    I am beginning to fear that Obabbler will keep on running his mouth, uttering complete nonsense until John McCain ends up winning by a substantial enough margin that it leads the RINO’s to believe that conservatism is no longer the key to governing the nation. Every day BO says even dumber things, only the troll’s pride keeps him hanging on to his “hope”.

  • 105 JamesonLewis3rd // Aug 2, 2008 at 5:54 am

    The only logical alternatives to this are far uglier but, it has been suggested [by someone who should know] that I might have been giving probably gave BO too much credit, so: I will concede the point.

    The primary logical alternative becomes the default and, therefore, more than likely, the four of them sit around the fireplace of an evening, lounging on a mammoth leopard-skin sectional, undulating, drooling and snapping their fingers in ecstasy, their eyeballs affixed to lewd crust on their entertainment center, attired in custom-tailored garb similar to that magazine cover.
    :shock:

  • 106 JamesonLewis3rd // Aug 2, 2008 at 5:57 am

    while attired

  • 107 Beerme // Aug 2, 2008 at 10:41 am

    mindknumbed kid // Aug 1, 2008 at 11:09 pm

    I am beginning to fear that Obabbler will keep on running his mouth, uttering complete nonsense until John McCain ends up winning by a substantial enough margin that it leads the RINO’s to believe that conservatism is no longer the key to governing the nation. Every day BO says even dumber things, only the troll’s pride keeps him hanging on to his “hope”.

    Good point! I fear the same, though I won’t be responsible for it…

  • 108 everthink // Aug 2, 2008 at 11:48 am

    JL3

    You say:

    “The primary logical alternative becomes the default and, therefore, more than likely, the four of them sit around the fireplace of an evening, lounging on a mammoth leopard-skin sectional, undulating, drooling and snapping their fingers in ecstasy, their eyeballs affixed to lewd crust on their entertainment center, attired in custom-tailored garb similar to that magazine cover.”

    What is a “lewd crust“?

    ET

  • 109 Beerme // Aug 2, 2008 at 12:06 pm

    Ludacris, perhaps?
    Come on, ET, get wit it. You sposed to be a hip Democritter, an all…

    How about that courageous stand at the House of Representatives, yesterday, in the face of Peloser’s autocratic despotism? Doesn’t that make a patriotic, Goldwater Republican proud of the respectable (minority, admittedly) group of Republican Reps?

  • 110 MJFinSC // Aug 2, 2008 at 12:18 pm

    What do you expect of McCain? He was hand picked by the media and the Democrat Party and we’re stuck with him. The Dems pulled the biggest political coup in history and no one seems to care.

    Getting back to my point. Since McCain garnered enough delegates, have you heard the press refer to him as the “Maverick Senator”. Noooo. Why, because they planted the seed early and suckered in moderates and cross-over Democrats who thought McCain was the answer. Then, the Dems, in the way only they can, took the pressure off the press by pissing and moaning how Rush was getting everyone (in the later primaries) to cross over and vote for Hillary. Once again the “good guys” were made to look bad, and the “bad guys” got away with political murder.

    Besides, I don’t know what is worse the US primary system or the way Congress works. Once again the 435 idiots have shown the world how underhanded one side can be and how the other side doesn’t have the balls to fight the underhandedness.

  • 111 JamesonLewis3rd // Aug 2, 2008 at 12:19 pm

    Yes!
    They even sent out for megaphones so the cheering throngs in the gallery wouldn’t miss the historic, heroic, passive-aggressive thumb-in-the-eyeball of the anti-American forces at “work” on on a five-week vacation from capitol hill.

  • 112 everthink // Aug 2, 2008 at 12:29 pm

    Beerme,

    Naw, it was only showmanship by a few scared pretenders, they just pulled a “Boner”.

    Old Barry would have had no part with him in any way!

    ET

  • 113 everthink // Aug 2, 2008 at 1:25 pm

    Beerme,

    Barry Goldwater was the genuine article. He was no blown and sprayed down, drunk sounding, whining, crying wimp like Boehner.
    (Yeah, yeah, Nancy is no prize either!)

    Barry Goldwater took strong positions, and sometimes he was wrong; but when he discovered his error he said so.

    He could even joke about the press: “I’ve often said that if I hadn’t known Barry Goldwater in 1964 and I had to depend on the press and the cartoons, I’d have voted against the son of a bitch.”

    I liked George Wallace pretty well, too.

    Perhaps they had something in common, when they discovered the were wrong, they tried to make it right. I believe Barry Goldwater would have gone over to the White House and tried to snatch Dumbyah up by the necktie!!!

    Look Beerme, I worked in the bad neighborhoods in Detroit, I have been assaulted by guns and knives, I know “street thugs” when I see them, it’s harder to “get over” on me than you seem to think. Times are changing, Obama is not what some here think.

    ET

  • 114 Beerme // Aug 2, 2008 at 9:34 pm

    There is no way a person could-logically, of course-admire and agree with Goldwater, Wallace and Obama. The three men’s views are incompatible.

    Obama is a politician and a gifted one. He is also so liberal as to nearly be a socialist.

    Why, ET, I do believe you are trying to “get over” on me and all of us, here.

    Everthink it’s working?

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