It’s 3 a.m.: Another Long Night in the White House

by Scott Ott for ScrappleFace · 2904157 Comments2008-03-01+19%3A05%3A07Scott+Ott · · Print This Story

Note: YouTube deleted this video within less than 20 minutes of posting. Let’s see how long it stay up on Google.
Update: YouTube restores the video.

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1 gafisher // Mar 1, 2008 at 2:48 pm

“We’re sorry, this video is no longer available?”

Somethin’s not exactly right.

[Editor's Note: If you're a Facebook member, you can view the video here. Meanwhile, the vast video production and distribution department at ScrappleFace is working on alternative media. Does anyone have the phone number for Al Gore's network, Current TV?
Update: As of 3:10 p.m. EDT on 3/1, the video is streaming here via Google.]
2 mindknumbed kid // Mar 1, 2008 at 3:21 pm

I think it might oughta say “I ain’t gonna make it home tonight….again.

I don’t see why YouTube pulled the plug, seems harmless to me.

Honestly, the wv box is “Mr Immaculate” right now. Bubba? I don’t think so….
3 mindknumbed kid // Mar 1, 2008 at 3:23 pm

Scott - try 1-800 BIG LIES. That should get you close to Al.
4 everthink // Mar 1, 2008 at 3:25 pm

I tried the video, YouTube says it is no longer available. I wonder why? Probably part of a Great Left Wing Conspiracy to keep some vital truth from the American People.

My guess is it must have pointed out the Democrats desire to hide Senator Obama’s middle name, or maybe the similarities of native Kenyan costume to that worn by the “Isolamfacists”.

Or, possibly a hundred “reworks” of the name Obama, or Hillary.

But, the truth is, at the moment, and for the next 324 days; when the phone rings at the White House at 3 am, and an urgent decision is required, it will be made by the least competent person ever required to make it.

Can you guess the number of “Widgets” now available to count the days left in this catastrophic administration?

Everthink, when you see people running from a building, maybe they are not all just hysterical, there could be a good reason?

Yes We Can!

ET
5 upnorthlurkin // Mar 1, 2008 at 3:46 pm

Loved it!! Let’s see…You Tube (YT) or is it EeeeewTube (ET)?!
I especially liked the “It’s the Satire Stupid” line.
6 Fred Sinclair // Mar 1, 2008 at 4:21 pm

I finally saw something, I know not what, but surely it was something. (I think) ***(Therefore I am) (Amped I?)

There you have it, in just a few words, I duplicated the essence and significant content of all of BO’s and HillBilly’s speeches, to date. I deliberately omitted the “I hate Bush” and “America Sucks” as mere redundancies.

“Change and Hope” is the going mantra, in reality meaning, “The change will be me in charge, and the hope will be you hoping that somehow you can get rid of me.”

Rossiter pretty well sums it up. “Based on strikingly irrational beliefs and emotions, modern liberals relentlessly undermine the most important principles on which our freedoms were founded,” says Dr. Lyle Rossiter, author of the new book,”The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness.” “Like spoiled, angry children, they rebel against the normal responsibilities of adulthood and demand that a parental government meet their needs from cradle to grave.”

Hitler wrote the playbook promising “Change and Hope”. With only a few modifications BO and HillBilly are making scary duplications, in places literally verbatim copies of his speeches. Next Nov 4th almost half of the voters will be voting for an emotionally disturbed individual in serious need of psychiatric help.

Heirborn Ranger
7 mindknumbed kid // Mar 1, 2008 at 4:23 pm

And that reason is : The Hill and Bill show is playing and Obaminable is singing the first song of the evening. Sorry, I didn’t take the herbs this morning.
8 mindknumbed kid // Mar 1, 2008 at 4:31 pm

Fred - they are hoping for change, from Bush to themself, from an”R” to a “D”, from capitalism to socialism, from a leader that prays to God to one that prays God will never stand in judgement of them, from an independent can do mentality to a help me I can’t do anything for myself (including think or everthinking), from America to something of a Utopian dream that is in their big warm fuzzy hearts.
9 gafisher // Mar 1, 2008 at 4:31 pm

Lock your doors and hide your daughters! Bill’s on the prowl!

wv - easterly uproar - Chappaqua after the polls close Tuesday.
10 gafisher // Mar 1, 2008 at 4:37 pm

Fred Re#6: “… (I think) ***(Therefore I am) …”

Blogito ergo sum.
11 da Bunny // Mar 1, 2008 at 4:51 pm

Hysterically funny, Scott. Guess “You Tube” isn’t too interested in “free speech,” unless it’s something leftist, violent, obscene, etc.

Rush, referring to this commercial the other day, said that in a Hillary Clinton White House, the phone ringing at 3:00 a.m. would go unanswered, since Hillary would be in another room beating up on Bill for having just stumbled in from another long night. Heh, heh…

Of course, an Obama White House would answer the phone in “appeasement mode,” and avoid defending or retaliating in any way. Especially if it were his “homeys” causing any of the trouble.
12 Fred Sinclair // Mar 1, 2008 at 4:52 pm

5:50 PM FOX just now ran the ad that had been “pulled”, they point out that when Bill was in office she did not have a security clearance so she was never in on much of anything, let alone 3AM phone calls, making her “experience” a moot point, at best.

Heirborn Ranger
13 RedPepper // Mar 1, 2008 at 4:54 pm

gafisher #10: You don’t know the (other) half of it! (see below … )

It’s 3 a.m.:

a) Do you know where your president is?
b) Do you know where your ex-president is?
c) Do you care?

c) Does Hillary know where the ex-president is? Does she care?
e) Would anyone like a hint ?
14 gafisher // Mar 1, 2008 at 4:54 pm

“Note: Y0uTube deleted this video within less than 20 minutes of posting.”

Had to have been accidental, Scott; that bastion of intellectual freedom, diversity and open debate wouldn’t purposely do that.
15 gafisher // Mar 1, 2008 at 5:11 pm

At least in a Clinton White House we could rest assured that the Red Phone would connect to actual Reds.

wv - pared oath - Hillary wants to write her own.
16 Fred Sinclair // Mar 1, 2008 at 7:25 pm

Coulter on Buckley:

“Buckley’s next book, “McCarthy and His Enemies,” written with L. Brent Bozell, proved that normal people didn’t have to wait for the Venona Papers to be declassified to see that the Democratic Party was collaborating with fascists. The book — and the left’s reaction thereto — demonstrated that liberals could tolerate a communist sympathizer, but never a Joe McCarthy sympathizer.”

Heirborn Ranger
17 mindknumbed kid // Mar 1, 2008 at 7:29 pm

gafisher - Wives too!
18 everthink // Mar 1, 2008 at 7:39 pm

I like Hillary, and I think Bill Clinton did a good job, a fantastic job, if you want to compare him to Dumbyah.

But, I canâ€™t help but be amused when I think about all the names you have called Hillary, and all the words you here have written about her, if Democrats choose Obama.

It seems such a waste of wingnut energy, not to mention your â€œcarbon footprintâ€! All that, and you wind up so unhappy with the lobbyists choice, poor old John McCain.

And when I see the Democrat turnouts â€¦ Iâ€™m sorry, Iâ€™ll have to you about that another time.

ET
19 mindknumbed kid // Mar 1, 2008 at 7:42 pm

Yeah - I’ll have to you about that another time too….HUH ?
20 everthink // Mar 1, 2008 at 7:44 pm

Thanks genius,

Insert: tell.
21 gafisher // Mar 1, 2008 at 8:00 pm

et Re#18: “I like Hillary, and I think Bill Clinton did a good job, a fantastic job …”

“Fantastic” hardly describes it. Roget suggests:

“Main Entry: fantastic
Part of Speech: adjective
Synonyms: absurd, artificial, capricious, chimerical, comical, crazy, different, eccentric, erratic, exotic, extravagant, extreme, fanciful, farfetched, fictional, foolish, foreign, freakish, grotesque, hallucinatory, illusive, imaginative, implausible, incredible, insane, irrational, ludicrous, mad, misleading, nonsensical, odd, outlandish, peculiar, phantasmagorical, preposterous, quaint, queer, ridiculous, singular, suppositious, unbelievable, unlikely, unreal*, wacky*, weird, whimsical.”

And that’s just one entry.
22 Ms RightWing, Ink // Mar 1, 2008 at 10:10 pm

Well, I don’t know what the video was about-but with 3 a.m. and Bill’s name involved, need I say more
23 mindknumbed kid // Mar 1, 2008 at 10:10 pm

gafisher - fantastic may just be a good decription of the Clinton years after all.
24 everthink // Mar 2, 2008 at 12:08 am

gafisher,

Well, thank you too,

I see your point now, “fantastic”; as in right-wing, or religious fanatic! Or, a football fan.

Let me please amend my declaration to say: “I like Hillary, and I think Bill Clinton did a good job, an exceptionally good job, if you want to compare him to the corrupt, and completely incompetent performance of Dumbyah.”

Satisfied?

ET
25 everthink // Mar 2, 2008 at 12:35 am

OK, OK, strike the words, “performance of” in my 24.

You can’t expect me to preform up to the level of MNK, can you?

Just watched “Michael Clayton” on PPV; a “fantastic” movie!
26 everthink // Mar 2, 2008 at 12:40 am

Oh, my gosh, another one! Perform!
27 Fred Sinclair // Mar 2, 2008 at 3:39 am

“I won’t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.” (William F. Buckley, Jr.)

He’s so much more elegant with words than I could ever be.

Heirborn Ranger
28 mindknumbed kid // Mar 2, 2008 at 8:11 am

I guess the whole idea must have me worried, I seem to have trouble sleeping @3AM these days. Must be preparation for the coming abomination . Having read the book that ET knows from cover to cover (yet totally missed my reference to the great day of withdraw) it is inevitable that all nations go astray, but why does this have to occur during our watch? Probably for the sakes of the ET’s of this world, anyway, COME LORD JESUS, I am tired of this world, the best is yet to come! Cheer up ye saints of God!

wv: coffin nothing - what was found there three days after Calvary. (I’ll explain it to you later ET)
29 mindknumbed kid // Mar 2, 2008 at 8:23 am

God says, in that before he formed us, he knew us. Good news ET, God knew how miserable Bush would make you but he formed you anyhow. My question to you about that is, does this make him a good preformer, or a bad preformer?
30 mindknumbed kid // Mar 2, 2008 at 8:32 am

I would rather think that the trouble with my sleep @ 3AM is due to a tired old mattress and a black lab that thinks where I have my feet is better suited for his lazy body.
31 mindknumbed kid // Mar 2, 2008 at 8:54 am

BAGHDAD - A U.S. military helicopter fired a guided missile to kill a wanted Saudi Arabian al-Qaida in Iraq leader who was believed responsible for the bombing deaths of five American soldiers, a spokesman said Monday.

U.S. Navy Rear Adm. Gregory Smith said Jar Allah, also known as Abu Yasir al-Saudi, and another Saudi known only as Hamdan, were both killed Wednesday in Mosul. Al-Saudi headed up the al-Qaida network in southeast Mosul, an insurgent hotbed where U.S forces wage daily battles against the group.

According to the military, al-Saudi conducted numerous attacks against Iraqi and U.S. forces, including a Jan. 28 bombing that killed the five U.S. soldiers.

In that attack, insurgents blasted a U.S. patrol with a roadside bomb and showered survivors with gunfire from a mosque. The soldiers died in the explosion â€” the deadliest on American forces since six soldiers perished Jan. 9 in a booby-trapped house north of Baghdad.

Intelligence gathered in the area led the U.S. military to al-Saudi, who was in a car with Hamdan. A precision helicopter strike killed both and destroyed their vehicle. U.S. forces then confirmed the men’s identities.

Al-Saudi is said to have been a close associate of al-Qaida in Iraq leader Abu Ayyub al-Masri and to have arrived in Mosul with a group of foreign fighters in August 2007 after spending time fighting in Afghanistan.

“Mosul is a critical crossroads for al-Qaida in Iraq. It is their strategic center of gravity. One-half to two-thirds of attacks in Iraq today are in and around Mosul,” Smith said.

Smith said the deaths brought to 142 the number of al-Qaida insurgents killed or captured since the beginning of the year.

- But they aren’t in Iraq, Bush lied…
32 Fred Sinclair // Mar 2, 2008 at 10:16 am

I believe that amid the mud-slinging of the fruitcake liberal left Communists aka Socialists a word of honest praise is due.
Mr. George W. Bush, come hell or high water, is, all other factors being considered - The President; and as such due the respect that goes with the office. One is certainly free to dislike him as a person but to attempt to demean his office by making or spreading scandalous claims about him with the intention of damaging his reputation, is naught but a scurrilous attack on his integrity.

Bill Clinton has a place in the history books as being the President that made Jimmy Carter look good, he reigned over his presidency in such a way as to be the definition of corruption. His incompetent performance is a matter of record.

On the obverse side is the rather lackluster performance of George W. Bush, a stalwart of character and integrity laced with his many failures such as not using his veto power to block some pretty lamebrained bills that managed to get Congressional approval. His ill-fated Amnesty bill, his curtailing 1st Amendment freedom of speech, his failure to secure our southern border, his failure to overturn the political convictions of 3 Border Patrol Guards (That should have been awarded medals rather than prison.)

He’s far from perfect but the good he accomplished is evident by the frantic efforts of the libral congress to overturn or kill what he did accomplish. If they weren’t good, grand and wonderful ie: tax cuts, they wouldn’t bother.

Any effort to besmirch his character and integrity is an exercise in futility, attempted by those who wish to publicize their ignorance and dis-association from reality.

Heirborn Ranger
33 Darthmeister // Mar 2, 2008 at 10:52 am

Gee, Scott, haven’t you figured it out. Any lie about Republicans are conservative are sacrosanct on YouTube or any other public forum, but let a conservative poke some fun at the Donks (or Islamofascists) and the First Amendment goes right out the window.

Even jihadists have their propaganda pieces posted at YouTube days on end … that ought to tell a person something.

Barnstorming Obama plans to pick Republicans for cabinet

Buwhahahahaha! Yeah, right. Another lie from a neo-com liar. The only cabinet Republicans (other than RINOs like Lincoln Chafee) are going to see during an Obama Administration is the one where they keep the cheap china in the corner of the kitchen.

Also, the media is refusing to further investigate the story that Obama has reassured Canadian officials through back channels that his virulent anti-NAFTA rhetoric shouldn’t be taken seriously since its only for consumption of those moonbat votes he’s trying to court during his campaign.

The same applies to Messiah Obama’s shrill rhetoric about immediately withdrawing troops from Iraq. Apparently some back channel reassurances have gone out to the Maliki govenrment that he has no intention of withdrawing troops until complete stabilization of Iraq is achieved (the same course President Bush is taking). Obama truly must believe many of his followers are indeed useful idiots who will steadfastly refuse to consider the possibility he’s little more than some flim-flam empty suit. Some political pundits are calling Obama’s campaign the most intellectually dishonest one they’ve ever seen. But what do you expect from some closet leftist who has to continue shoring up his moonbat base?
34 RedPepper // Mar 2, 2008 at 10:57 am

Now here is a fascinating story to speculate about!

I invite those with (over)active imaginations to add a big dollop of The Law Of Unintended Consequences to this situation, and ask one simple question: what if ?

And you thought the potential economic consequences of Global Warmism were the scary stuff!
35 JamesonLewis3rd // Mar 2, 2008 at 10:59 am

Klaatu: I won’t resort to threats, Mr. Harley. I merely tell you the future of your planet is at stake.
=====
Helen: I thought you were…
Klaatu: I was.
=====
Helen: Gort! Klaatu barada nikto!
36 Darthmeister // Mar 2, 2008 at 11:05 am

Sheesh. Should read: “Any lie about Republicans OR conservatives IS sacrosanct …”

“60 Minutes” caught in more lies about Karl Rove’s supposed involvement in ousting former Alabama governor Don Siegelman.

Once again lawyer John Hinderacker’s excellent fisking of leftist media harpies provide us with another example at just how adroit the liars in the left-wing media are in spinning their tales. Of course the average American citizen only hears the original smears by left-wing journalists and rarely if ever read the counter-analysis which exposes the dirty little secrets and lies of your typical anti-conservative journalist hacks.

Most of the hate-Bush/blame-America Democratic hackery the last seven years falls into the same category of half-truths and damnable lies.
37 Darthmeister // Mar 2, 2008 at 11:08 am

Here’s the Hinderaker link.

I’m sure I typed it right the first time. Oh, well …
38 Possumtrot // Mar 2, 2008 at 11:31 am

I am feeling quite diminished by the passing of William F. Buckley this day. Upon hearing the news last night, I cried and cursed.

In a hopeful attempt to carry on his conservative legacy, there are some new posts at United Possums International. You are missed, Mr. Bill, and will not be forgotten.
39 Possumtrot // Mar 2, 2008 at 11:37 am

This word verification [type-it-in] thing defeats me every time. Kudos to Great Scott for trying to improve the blog’s efficiency, but that puppy ain’t working. Please test-drive something else, and leave that one in the ditch.
40 RedPepper // Mar 2, 2008 at 11:44 am

JL3 #35:

Klaatu: I am fearful when I see people substituting fear for reason.
41 JamesonLewis3rd // Mar 2, 2008 at 11:49 am

RE: #34~~
Red Pepper~~

…..life forms that feed on CO2 and give off fuel such as methane gas as waste…..

No…..Wait! NO! Don’t light that scented candle!!!!!

While I admit to an unnatural fondness for certain Fictional Mad Scientists, real, live ones give me the creeps.
42 RedPepper // Mar 2, 2008 at 11:52 am

Possumtrot #39: Do you know about the “Get a new challenge” function? I find it helps …

wv= “CHARGES Bunk” ; Hear that, Mr. Waxman?
43 RedPepper // Mar 2, 2008 at 11:59 am

JL3 #41: Did you ever read the Heinlein novel in which a character suggested that, by using enough powdered charcoal, and automated rockets, the Soviets could create a Hammer & Sickle logo on the bright side of the moon?
44 RedPepper // Mar 2, 2008 at 12:25 pm

Addenda to #43: Actually, it was a novella ; it was titled, The Man Who Sold the Moon .
45 Possumtrot // Mar 2, 2008 at 12:36 pm

I have always been a fan of Heinlein’s remark that an armed society is a polite society.

My taste in sci-fi leans to Phillip K. Dick, especially The Man in the High Castle.

The movie version of electroid dreaming of counting sheep, a.k.a “Blade Runner”, is a masterpiece.
46 RedPepper // Mar 2, 2008 at 1:11 pm

Possumtrot: There are so many good SF authors, it’s mind-boggling. There tend to be far fewer excellent SF movies, but I agree that Blade Runner was a masterpiece. Have you ever seen Strange Days?

Another master of the genré , Theodore Sturgeon, once remarked : “Ninety percent of science fiction is crud, but then, ninety percent of everything is crud.”
47 JamesonLewis3rd // Mar 2, 2008 at 2:34 pm

Allow me, please, to add the name of William Gibson to the list of superb authors within the SF genrÃ©.
Thank you
48 RedPepper // Mar 2, 2008 at 2:57 pm

Fred:
God gave Noah the rainbow sign
No more water, the fire next time …

JL3 #47: Like I said, there’s so many good ones …

My 1st love was the grand old masters: Clarke, Van Vogt, Heinlein … and let me add, SF began as a genré that was above all based on the short story. Just as there are CD collections of one-hit wonders, there are whole collections of wonderful stories by relatively obscure authors. And don’t forget the editors themselves, like John Campbell & Judith Merrill …
49 RedPepper // Mar 2, 2008 at 3:07 pm

OK - now, THAT is just weird, if not downright creepy! I just saw a post by Fred, & as you can see in #48, part of my response was to Fred, & I hit “Submit”, and Fred’s post vanished! Fred! Where’d you go ! ? !/i>
50 RedPepper // Mar 2, 2008 at 3:14 pm

It is one thing for this blog to be eating comments (like the kite-eating tree in the Peanuts strip).

It is another thing entirely for it to start eating the commenters!

I’m OUTA here ! !

Like the man said, I’ll be back …
51 gafisher // Mar 2, 2008 at 3:58 pm

MKK Re#31: “Smith said the deaths brought to 142 the number of al-Qaida insurgents killed or captured since the beginning of the year.”

Every time that happens Democrat Headquarters offices around the country have to lower the white flag to half mast.

wv - Cross copter - AH-64 Apache. Don’t mess with one.
52 RedPepper // Mar 2, 2008 at 4:40 pm

(We should be) â€œ … exceedingly cautious about handing the country’s future to a man only three years into the D.C. swirl -exactly the same time he spent as an “organizer” on the South Side of Chicago. He didn’t “know” Chicago after three years, and he doesn’t know D.C. -or the world- now.

Senator Barack is, in short, a rookie. The sort of rookie the fans love, then turn against, realizing he isn’t up to the job. The sort of rookie that makes huge mistakes, which while merely disappointing on the football field, are deadly on the field of international conflict.

Senator Obama is Jimmy Carter, without the experience.â€

Read the rest here .
53 camojack // Mar 2, 2008 at 6:03 pm

“I feel your pain”.

NOT!!!
54 Fred Sinclair // Mar 2, 2008 at 6:20 pm

Red Pepper - Beats me, I haven’t a clue, it’s a first for me. I’ve never been deleted before. I’m pretty sure Scott didn’t delete it. Those I’ve seen, he always puts “Deleted” in the space in bold face type.

Maybe if Scott reads this he can figure out how to retrieve it. I doubt I can reconstruct it.

Heirborn Ranger
55 Fred Sinclair // Mar 2, 2008 at 6:50 pm

Red Pepper - I believe I have or have had every book written by RAH including his previously unpublished “FOR US THE LIVING” (I recently bought it at Barnes and Nobel) it’s actually his very first book and his following books were based on it.

Fiction but not SF. my favorite novel is (I guess it’s my favorite I loaned out my first copy, forgot who I loaned it to, and bought another - being a slow learner I later loaned it out - same sad story so now have my third copy. Not to be loaned - period. It’s Stephen J. Cannell’s “King Con” I’ve read most of Cannell’s books and they are truly ones you “can’t put down”.

The mysterious disappearing post Re your #49 was based in part on Robert Van Kampen’s book “The Rapture Question Answered - Plain & Simple”
His earlier book “The Sign” had a chapter on the subject and garnered so much interest that he made it into a separate book.

Things are heating up quickly around the world and it’s not altogether improbable that I could still be alive at Christ’s return. The fruitcake Liberals may get more Global Warming than they bargained for and it certainly won’t be “manmade”.

Heirborn Ranger
56 Liger // Mar 2, 2008 at 6:52 pm

Hey suckers,

It looks like you right wing loonies will be in hibernation until at least 2010. By that time, half of you will have died and the other half will likely perish in some branch davidian type conflagration.

Everthink. G’day to you.

Love always,

Liger
57 mindknumbed kid // Mar 2, 2008 at 6:57 pm

I see it is still fine here, I still wonder why the folks at YouTube pulled it.
I still have trouble seeing other people’s posts when I am logged in. If I am away from the computer for a while I used to refresh the page to see any that were added, now I usually have to post something or log out and come back.
58 RedPepper // Mar 2, 2008 at 7:05 pm

Fred: I’m relieved to see you back (btw, check your email). I am very doubtful that Scott deleted your comment. In fact, on several occasions recently, due to the length of time between new threads, I was concerned that the Purple Comment Eater had gotten him!

Anyhoo, if Scott reads this, he can certainly let us know if he was responsible for disappearing your remarks. I would just love to know, either way …
59 mindknumbed kid // Mar 2, 2008 at 7:10 pm

Fred - My Pastor is convinced that it will be very soon that the Lord returns, exciting to think we could see that live. I would rather leave here under those circumstances than live under Obamanable and the kooks on the far left as they create their “heaven” on earth. Liger and ET might enjoy it, but I don’t think we will.
60 RedPepper // Mar 2, 2008 at 7:20 pm

mkk #57: I have had to log out on numerous occasions because a comment that I had just posted was not showing up. However, this is the first time that I have seen a comment disappear! In the past, I’ve seen other people’s comments claiming that their posts had disappeared, and I was skeptical. No longer!
61 Possumtrot // Mar 2, 2008 at 7:32 pm

Googleâ„¢ killed my blog; no surprise that they unloaded on Great Scott.

I wonder if there is a political agenda existing here.

I’m lucky to coax a response out of the wheezing old HAL-9000, so I’ll reign the paranoia in. I repeat my complaint about that “type-it-in” thing at the bottom of the page, however.
62 RedPepper // Mar 2, 2008 at 7:44 pm

Possumtrot: Have you checked your email recently? I sent you something about the “reCaptcha” stuff, & I was wondering if you had found it helpful …

wv = “trap catches” ; it sure does, but the question is , what the [bleep!] is “reCaptcha” catching?
63 RedPepper // Mar 2, 2008 at 7:54 pm

Speak of the {?} ; now my last comment has disappeared!

Here we go again …

wv = “Mrs mons” ; I was gonna say, I’m not touching that one, but then I thought about it further … (!)
64 onlineanalyst // Mar 2, 2008 at 8:30 pm

Some of my comments never appeared, too. I think that occasionally the reCaptcha makes a commenter type in two words twice, indicating that the first try was incorrect. I know that my first WV was correct, but this may be another fail safe to keep out spam. Anyway, I had navigated away from the page, not realizing that I was to type in the “magic words” again.

Sometimes those WVs are difficult to see, so I just keep hitting the red refresh icon until one is clear enough.

I see that General Ashley Wilkes thinks that Madame Hillary! could hit the ground running as an effective CIC because she had traveled to 80 countries as First Lady. Wow! What credentials!

Obama bin Hopin’ (pbuh) surely is hoodwinking those young kids in awe of him. They will be lucky if they have much left in their paychecks after all of the federal taxes and FICA/Medicare taxes are taken out. The poor deluded kids don’t realize that he is taking away any hope for an independent, productive, successful life away from them.
65 Liger // Mar 2, 2008 at 8:42 pm

I forget. What credentials did W have before he became prez?

What’s that you say? A failed businessman? Oh.
66 prettyold // Mar 2, 2008 at 8:49 pm

I’m not really as worried about Obama bin hopin’ as I worry about Obama bin Changin’.
Have you noticed how arrogant and full of himself he is. No more Mr. nice guy.

Who’s sane? Not the Obloviator.
Whose Seine? Must belong to that fisher of the very bottom crawlers. He ’s Obamaligated to do that now.
Hoo’s singin’, just the Obamowl

popu shifted Momu was too close.
67 prettyold // Mar 2, 2008 at 9:00 pm

(PBUH) We need to Change that to (PBUU) Peace Be Unto Us!!

,b> and prosePoetry comes before?
68 Fred Sinclair // Mar 2, 2008 at 9:20 pm

Red Pepper - # 59 “…Liger and ET might enjoy it, but I donâ€™t think we will.”

For those of us Christians who believe The Bible to be the inerrant word of God. The last 3+ years of the tribulation they most assuredly will not enjoy.

The truly sad thing is that by accepting Christ as their Saviour, they could totally avoid the horror facing all non-Christians.

Or as the fellow said, “You’re awfully narrow minded aren’t you?” To which, I replied, “Of course I am, I can afford to be, I’m right.”

One doesn’t have to be a Christian to be a conservative (’though it helps) but it’s impossible to be a Christian and not be a conservative.

Christ is on record as loving little children, so He would not promote or condone abortion. God is also on record as condemning homosexuality as an abomination to Himself. ergo, Christians are the antithesis of Liberalism. Making the term “Christian Democrat the ultimate oxymoron.

Heirborn Ranger
69 gafisher // Mar 2, 2008 at 9:26 pm

OLA Re#64: “Sometimes those WVs are difficult to see …”

If you read the wee type in the reCaptcha block, they say it’s to “Stop Spam, Read Books.” The second part is what makes it interesting.

The reCaptcha words are from scanned documents, mostly old books. One of the words is known, while the other is generally something OCR (optical character recognition) software couldn’t decipher. The reCaptcha system checks your response to the word it knows, and if that’s acceptable, it not only OK’s your submission here but adds your version of the “indecipherable” word to its database. Presumably, the “indecipherable” word is repeated from time to time until reCaptcha satisfies its confidence factor and makes the majority response official. It’s then used to continue the digitization of the original document.

In other words, reCaptcha is based on the fact that the human brain is still able to outperform computer software in complex visual tasks.

As a person who makes extensive use of books and documents which might be essentially unavailable were it not for efforts like this, I am *thrilled* to see reCaptcha tapping into the combined mental faculties of the esteemed Scrappleface Brain Trust.

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70 Possumtrot // Mar 2, 2008 at 9:29 pm

Wait until the nuclear device goes off! We are having so much fun laughing at the water fountain.

You will believe when it is a day short and a dollar short.

You will get the government you deserve.
71 Ms RightWing, Ink // Mar 2, 2008 at 9:40 pm

Throw away the political videos. It would be a shame if you didn’t take time to watch this guy.

P.S., for you of heavy tears, get out the Kleenex box.

wv: 14 waters-ahem, I cried at least 14 pints
72 Ms RightWing, Ink // Mar 2, 2008 at 9:43 pm

ooopppppss e daisy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tIyt8oSLVs
73 onlineanalyst // Mar 2, 2008 at 10:29 pm

That link was great, MsRW,Ink.

Take a look at one of the related links, too, especially his last lecture at Carnegie-Mellon University. It’s absolutely inspiring.

I went to C-MU for graduate school, and our alum bulletin gave us the heads up about this video. Because one of my nephews aspires to a career like the good doctor’s, I had to pass the link along to him for its most life-affirming message.

It breaks my heart to learn of such devastating health problems in young families such as Dr. Paush’s or Tony Snow’s. The healing of the heart, though, comes from the positive ways that they teach us from their experiences to distinguish what is and what is not important. I guess that is the lesson, too, that I have taken from our loss of dear Santini.
74 mindknumbed kid // Mar 2, 2008 at 11:06 pm

For straight is the way and narrow is the gate……I say it doesn’t pay to be too open minded when it comes to Christ. It amazes me how some will reinvent him to fit their beliefs and think it will all be well in the end. How absurd! You can’t reinvent him, he has said, I AM.He is always the same as he was from the beginning (ours,not his) better not deceive ourselves as to who he is or what he is. Wide is the gate that leadeth to destruction….he says many will take the wide gate, but only few will find the narrow one, kind of flies in the face of the new improved liberal religionists’ teaching. Wanna be with him in the end? Better not be off “finding your own way”, come to Christ and seek him and his way.
75 mindknumbed kid // Mar 2, 2008 at 11:08 pm

shove and push and just get along now so I can get some sleep.
76 gafisher // Mar 3, 2008 at 5:44 am

MsRWI Re#71/72: I thought I’d never appreciate an Oprah clip, but that was excellent. According to the speaker’s medical update page he’s still got a positive attitude, thankful for a few extra months and making the best of them. My wife is a nurse and speaks frequently of the medical effects of attitude, which can diminish or extend life (ultimately under God’s control, of course) significantly.

Would that each of us would periodically examine our lives as Pausch has done, to partake of life eagerly and spend it generously, recognizing each day is a gift we are meant to share, and quickly.

wv - sissippi Stephen - Ms. Sissippi’s S.O.
77 Fred Sinclair // Mar 3, 2008 at 6:13 am

mkk #74 In the long run, it boils down to a decision.
#1. Jesus is the greatest liar, hoaxer, and scam artist in the history of the planet OR He was speaking the truth, - #2. Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. (John 14:6)

I note that He did NOT say, “If you belong to this or that church…”; nor did He say, “If you do this, that or the other “good works”…”.

Or in the words of John MacArthur, it’s “Hard To Believe” but the Bible is either the Word of God or nothing more than a collection of fairy tales that belong in the dumpster. Take it or leave it and live or die with your decision.

Heirborn Ranger
78 Fred Sinclair // Mar 3, 2008 at 7:17 am

French actress Marion Cotillard, who picked up an Oscar for best actress in Hollywood last week, has admitted to having doubts about the official version of the September 11 attacks in the US.

“I tend to believe in the conspiracy theory.”
She continues: “Did man really walk on the moon? Me, I’ve seen a fair few documentaries on the subject. But all things being considered - you have to cut the poor girl some slack….after all, she’s French.

On the other hand - Gloria says at least Hillary hasn’t been trained to kill people - OH YEAH? ask Vince about how well she’s been trained. I haven’t heard anything about McCain murdering lawyers (though he might want to look into that).

Heirborn Ranger
79 gafisher // Mar 3, 2008 at 8:49 am

Ah, the issue of tissue; Dear Ms. Crow, we won't miss you.

A Charmin topic, but out of deference to Scott we'd best say Northern more about it.
80 RedPepper // Mar 3, 2008 at 8:04 am

Moloch ! Moloch ! Nightmare of Moloch !
81 Libby Gone // Mar 3, 2008 at 8:29 am

The only lasting legacy of Clinton is the wider acceptance of adultery, how many families has this torn apart?
Great job Bubba!
82 Fred Sinclair // Mar 3, 2008 at 8:53 am

If this isn’t straight from George Orwell then I read the wrong book. When it came out he was laughed at and held up as an object of ridicule for his insane attempt at poor Science Fiction. By 1984 many were wishing it was ONLY that bad.

From DRUGE today:

Early Saturday, Cook County Board President Todd Stroger struck a deal with board members, who approved a 1 percent increase in the sales tax - driving Chicago’s overall sales tax to double digits at 10.25 percent, easily among the highest of any big city.
And it will be enacted just in time for the Christmas shopping season.

â€œWe got where we needed to be, and thatâ€™s a great victory for the five and a half million people who live and work in Cook County,â€ Stroger stated in a release early Saturday. â€œBy working together, my administration and the board of commissioners have achieved a common goal today â€“ to ensure that the millions of County residents who rely on us for vital services can continue to count on us to meet those critical needs.â€

“…and thatâ€™s a great victory for the five and a half million people…”
Only a certifiable lunatic liberal could say those words with a straight face.

Heirborn Ranger
83 boberinyetagain // Mar 3, 2008 at 9:47 am

I’m betting those folks still want police and fire protection. Perhaps ambulances, paved roads, water a sewer infrasturcture.
Sure the average joe could arrange for thos services himself but it does seem a tad easier to let “big brother” do them.
Orewellian it isn’t

platoon person…you’d think that would have to be “people” but who knows?
84 gafisher // Mar 3, 2008 at 10:17 am

Fred Re#81: See [here] for more info. It looks to me as though Cook County has done neighboring counties a huge favor. Considering that a lot of that 10.25% is state sales taxes, Indiana and Wisconsin could be the big winners.

Cook County expects this increase to net them $400 million a year in new revenues; I suspect they’ll find things go in the opposite direction.
85 Libby Gone // Mar 3, 2008 at 10:37 am

At 10 + % taxation, boberin?
Gimme my gun, a dirt road, and a bucket of water. Keep your hands out of my wallet.
At what point would you say OTHERS are paying a burdensome amount?
86 gafisher // Mar 3, 2008 at 10:38 am

b-nyet Re#82: Other than the self-inflicted cost of tax-inflated prices, do you really think it costs more to provide those services in Chicago than anywhere else in the country?
87 boberinyetagain // Mar 3, 2008 at 11:01 am

I’m certain that waste in involved. But, how to root it out whilst still providing said services?
Phila knows this scenario all to well. We just elected a man that appears ready to challenge the status quo but he already made one embarassing cut to a popular after school program for kids and had to go reinstate it.
Hope does spring eternal, this guy just might get something done. Once he gets us straight we could lend him to these folks.

friendly but…better than a friendly face in some cases
88 gafisher // Mar 3, 2008 at 11:06 am

Looks like the Earth Liberation Front has done its little part to save the planet. According to the story [here] they’ve left a nice fat carbon footprint in Seattle.

Hey, how about a new unit of measure, the algor, equivalent to one day’s CO2 emissions from the former Vice President’s Nashville mansion. For example, the average American generates about 1 algor per month. ELF generated about 1 kiloalgor in the Seattle arson attack.

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89 everthink // Mar 3, 2008 at 11:30 am

Yo Liger,

Are some of these really Branch Davidians?

I’m getting ready to launch my Obama recruitment drive here; but, I’m sorry to say, I don’t think I’ll be able to coax all of them out of the cave.

Note how my friend prettyold, who after watching Dumbyah strut, smirk, and lean forward with one eyebrow lowered and try to enunciate simple words for years, now thinks Obama is “arrogant and full of himself”.

ET
90 Libby Gone // Mar 3, 2008 at 11:36 am

gafisher,
I LIKE it! Too much fun can be had with this concept.
We could develope an allegory to indoctrinate our children into this Inconvienient Truth (Much like my child has been subjected to GW in Science class)
…. If Mr Smith goes to Washington driving an SUV how many Algors does he use?
91 boberinyetagain // Mar 3, 2008 at 11:58 am

ga, you really are on to something!

libby…allegory?….groan…

wit briefs…much better than w/o em
92 RedPepper // Mar 3, 2008 at 12:23 pm

gafisher, Libby Gone: Never mind your carbon footprint; what is the size of your Crow-foot print? (I refer, of course, to the amount of toilet tissue you … uh … consume during your average use of the … er … porcelain poop-chute). And just how, exactly, should it be measured? By area? And thickness? Perhaps by weight? Will there be a system for trading credits? Do Islamic traditionalists get a five-finger discount? Along with the footbaths, will we have to install backside baths as well? The mind reels …
93 Libby Gone // Mar 3, 2008 at 1:16 pm

RP,
Got me! Hundreds of trees that could be naturally offsetting my carbon paw prints are simply flushed every year! Thank Gawd for musicians concern about backside production!
94 Libby Gone // Mar 3, 2008 at 1:42 pm

I agree the topic of destroying trees which could serve to offset Algors , to make tissue is a crime in some political parties.
95 everthink // Mar 3, 2008 at 2:17 pm

â€œFor those of us Christians who believe The Bible to be the inerrant word of God.â€

I agree The Word is inerrant. But, which version of â€œThe Holy Bibleâ€ is inerrant?

Surely you are of aware of Martin Lutherâ€™s re-translation and replacement of the corrupt Latin Vulgate version. At the time, it was chained to the altar of most Roman Catholic Churches, because each was copied by hand, which was fine; because most people COULDNâ€™T READ it anyway!

The Holy See, in its wisdom, sought to explain its own gross misunderstandings of Holy Writ, by â€œHoly Traditionâ€. Unfortunately, many â€œProtestant Churchesâ€ have seemingly substituted their own â€œHoly Traditionâ€, much in the way the Catholic Church did.

My bet is, you favor the 1611 English version â€œAuthorizedâ€ by King James.

I like it best too; but it is also a translation, and all translations have weaknesses, for example, the word â€œParacelsusâ€ was translated â€œHoly Spiritâ€, by some translators, while others rendered it â€œHoly Ghostâ€? You might be surprised how many folks think there is a difference.

Did you know, this same King James, in 1597, published a book that he had written on the subject of witchcraft called â€œDaemonologieâ€?

Have you ever heard this sad comment: â€œOne dear old brother said to another, referring to the KJV, â€œIâ€™ll just carry the same old Bible Paul carriedâ€?

ET
96 RedPepper // Mar 3, 2008 at 3:47 pm

Libby Gone: Has anyone found out yet where we can purchase the HazMat suits we have to wear to change them funny-lookin’ lightbulbs?
97 JamesonLewis3rd // Mar 3, 2008 at 3:48 pm

I hereby predict that, before it is over with, BO will get his feelings hurt and cry real tears on national television.
98 RedPepper // Mar 3, 2008 at 4:16 pm

JL3 #97:

â€œThe secret of success is sincerity . Once you can fake that, you’ve got it made.â€
- Groucho Marx
99 prettyold // Mar 3, 2008 at 4:33 pm

#96
RP,don’t worry ,once the law goes into effect the HazMat suits will be everywhere. Algore probably owns the factory.
If there are children or pregnant women, present when one of these killer bulbs is broken ,they are to leave the house. Then to clean the breakage one must use stiff paper and tape . Never vacuum. If the broken bulb is on carpeting ,the piece of carpet should be cut out and thrown away. Al must own a carpet factory ,too.

woman’s Echecs I’m not allowed to discuss this.
100 gafisher // Mar 3, 2008 at 4:55 pm

et Re#95: Those translational variations are the reason good Pastors learn Hebrew and Greek, and an excellent reason to keep good study aids handy. But regarding the “Authorized Version,” very few people are aware that the KJV was considered a corrupt Bible by those who cared, and that the favored English translation, the one carried, for example, by the Pilgrims, was the Geneva Bible.

The language of the Geneva Bible is fully as majestic and beautiful as the KJV at its best, but what particularly recommended the Geneva Bible (and the main reason King James wanted it replaced) was that it included the sort of study aids mentioned above to aid the reader in understanding the thrust of the original languages. James was offended that the Geneva made it clear that even kings were subject to the King of kings.

The link above points to a brief explanation of the origin of the Geneva Bible and its relationship to the KJV; to read from the Geneva Bible itself look [here]. As a sort of “benchmark” familiar to Christians, [here] is the book of Luke; scroll down to Luke 2 and see what you think.
101 egospeak // Mar 3, 2008 at 5:46 pm

Fred (re 77) and ET (re 95).

Forty years ago John MacArthur (not yet pastor/teacher of Grace Community Church) was something of an itinerant evangelist and frequently spoke at church summer camps.

On a tape I listened to he recounted the following story of when he was invited to speak at such a camp and decided to speak on the innerancy of the scriptures in a message titled “Why I believe the Bible is literally true”. He was unaware that the camp was run by a liberal church. Needless to say, after speaking he was confronted by one of the higher ups running the camp who said to him, “I can’t believe that you are stupid enough to believe that the Bible is literally true”.

MacArthur’s response was classic. He replied, “Yes I’m stupid enough to believe the Bible is literally true… What are you stupid enough to believe in?”

Regards,
102 everthink // Mar 3, 2008 at 5:54 pm

gafisher,

“Those translational variations are the reason good Pastors learn Hebrew and Greek …” I’m sure that is true for the most part. I’m not really concerned about those pastors; but I had others, and I had the average reader in mind.

I called the Vulgate corrupt, not the KJV. I, however, did refer to “weakness”.

Were those Pilgrims to which you refer the same as those at Salem?

If so, you raise much broader issues.

ET
103 gafisher // Mar 3, 2008 at 6:05 pm

et Re#102, are you thinking of the folks who landed the Septemberflower at Buick Rock?

wv - planet trol - I kid you not!
104 Ms RightWing, Ink // Mar 3, 2008 at 8:54 pm

I hate to step into a Bible argument, er, discussion-but…….

Tomorrow is the big primary day here in the Buckeye ( and Texas) and boy has my phone been ringing. Everyone from Ken Blackwell, one time Republican governor hopeful, to Michelle Obama Yo-mama.

It is getting pretty ugly around here in the rust belt where NAFTA, not the war in, umm, gee, what war? (Iraq) is the bad boy.

Gee, just think if was not for NAFTA we would still be making tires and little rubber Durkee Dolls here in the tire capital of the world.

Well, my little sweetie Democrats, I hate to tell you but tires disappeared from Ohio long before NAFTA. Most of the business went to Texas where unions were as rare as feathers on a Jack Rabbit.

Now back to Bibles. Here in our area preachers thump with a King James version. The KJ only churches are a product of the Appalachian movement into Ohio. Back in them thar hills they believe the International Translation was a conspiracy between gays and the devil.

I left one church, though the folks were as fine of a people as you ever want to meet but they hated, with a capital H, the International version.

It never was much of a big deal to me as long as folks could read and understand the word and last I looked, folks did find salvation in that wicked translation. I have taught from the KJ, International, NKJ and a host of others over the years. When people scratch their heads over a certain passage, I will give them a new road map to find the way. Most times they will.

Station Helen: Boxcar Bonnies’ first cousin on her mothers side
105 Fred Sinclair // Mar 3, 2008 at 9:21 pm

2Cor. 9:7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.

2Cor. 9:7 I want each of you to take plenty of time to think it over, and make up your own mind what you will give. That will protect you against sob stories and arm-twisting. God loves it when the giver delights in the giving.

2Cor. 9:7 As euery man wisheth in his heart, so let him giue, not grudgingly, or of necessitie: for God loueth a cheerefull giuer.

The first is KJV the second “The Message” the third the Geneva

I have Accordance 6.1.1 in my Mac with 18 translations, including the Geneva, Douay, etc.

I personally consider “The Message” to be the best since it came up that Jesus didn’t speak 1611 English (being God incarnate He could have of course, but He wouldn’t have had anyone to talk to since 1611 English had yet to be invented) he was known as a winebibber, a friend of sinners. He hung out with dock workers, fishermen, the bar-room crowd, etc, therefore He most likely spoke what we call “street language”, so going back to the earliest known Codex’s the translation was made anew into today’s “street language”.

Yet that particular verse (II Cor. 9:7) is a good example since all three are slightly ‘off’. In 1611 with Earls, Counts, Dukes etc, ‘cheerful’ was a pretty good word, yet the original is the root from which we get our word hilarious a somewhat more exuberant, genuinely happy atitude. The Berkley Version correctly translated it as “…for God loves a hilarious giver.”

None of the various translations are off the mark (except the NIV of course) so take your pick. The Amplified takes into account words in the original have several meanings, so they print them all - truly great for Bible study.

The Douay for instance translates a verse in Isaiah in most all other translations render that all of our righteousnesses are in Gods view as but “filthy rags” Douay correctly translates it as “but the rags of a menstruous woman.” I guess that was a bit much in 1611 but a filthy rag can wipe off mud from your shoes, clean your engine, etc. but all of our good deeds or good works (to earn salvation) are no more to God than a used Kotex or Tampex. Eph. 2:8,9 - “…not of works…”

Heirborn Ranger
106 onlineanalyst // Mar 3, 2008 at 9:21 pm

If anyone had any doubts that the momentum for Obama has all of the demagogic elements of mindless cult-like brainwashing, this video should erase them.

Is there any difference in this mindlessness than that shone by the Kool Aid swillers at Jonestown or the idjits at Heaven’s Gate? The hypnotic (!!?) chant in the background while pie-eyed Obama-bots dreamily recite how terrific the world will be when their hope-filled leader brings “change” to the world reminds me of the Hitler Youth in Cabaret idealistically singing “Tomorrow Belongs to Me”.

How could young adults have so little in the way of critical-thinking skills? They are surely out of touch with human nature, the real world, and a sense of personal responsibility. (Yoiks! And some of them claim to be parents. What kind of self-absorbed children will these naifs raise when life throws them a curve?

This multi-culti love fest video has a feel-good mesmerism that will appeal to the lemmings, for sure.

WV: Mr Restaurant- I guess that this is the current generation’s place where you can get anything you want at Obama’s joint (so to speak).
107 everthink // Mar 3, 2008 at 11:11 pm

â€œHe could have of course, but He wouldnâ€™t have had anyone to talk to since 1611 English had yet to be invented) he was known as a winebibber, a friend of sinners. He hung out with dock workers, fishermen, the bar-room crowd, etc, therefore He most likely spoke what we call â€œstreet languageâ€, …”.

Surely, thou must kiddith me! See, I told you He loved Democrats!

I have Biblesoftâ€™s PC Study Bible ~Advanced Reference Library v5.0c. It has 28 Bibles and Concordances, but not the Geneva Bible. Is it known by another name? i.e Weymouth New Testament, aka â€œNew Testament in Modern Speechâ€.

Have a look at John 3 in the Weymouth.

ET
108 everthink // Mar 3, 2008 at 11:27 pm

gafisher,

Hey, I had to read 103, four times. I see now, that was the Puritans!

ET
109 everthink // Mar 3, 2008 at 11:34 pm

OLA,

Re: 106

I think you should see Mrs. Bennett.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaNHsQb9cW8

ET
110 RedPepper // Mar 3, 2008 at 11:41 pm

ola #106: The Hitler Youth in Cabaret? Yes, that comparison occurred to me too.

But what I am most reminded of is The Children’s Crusade .
111 gafisher // Mar 4, 2008 at 6:19 am

I wonder if anyone called Mrs. Clinton with some last-minute encouragement at 3 this morning.

wv - totaled streets - “Michigan: the Pothole Peninsula.”
(New license plate motto commemorating Governor “Generous Genny” Granholm’s commitment to infrastructure.)
112 JamesonLewis3rd // Mar 4, 2008 at 7:06 am

I am such a huge FAN of the “My Translation is Better than Your Translation” discussion (and I have been witness to-or participant in-many various and sundry “versions” of the discussion over the last couple of decades).

I would like to see the topic broadened to include the Arapaho, Swahili, Russian, Cambodian, Mayan, Icelandic et al [and their various] translations throughout the centuries.

Side note: I contend that the “same old Bible that Paul carried” is no different than the Bible that the Psalmist carried

In my heart I have hid Thy saying, That I sin not before Thee.
~~Psalm 119:11

God’s Word (the only variation being addition of the “NT”, of course) was written on Paul’s heart as well, transcribed from the Hebrew and/or Greek and/or Whatever through the Holy Spirit by Jesus Christ Himself.

It doesn’t much matter how it gets there (I don’t like paraphrases, as opposed to translations, but that’s tangential to my point, sorry) because the Holy Spirit puts it there in my heart not me—I don’t circumcise my heart, Almighty God does.

Hallelu Yah!
God Bless America
113 Libby Gone // Mar 4, 2008 at 8:24 am

RP,
Not sure on the Haz Mat suits, but I’m sure someday these bulbs will be listed next to Asbestos and Lead Paint on the “Why did we do this to ourselves” list.
Personally I light my home with the undying glow of love and faith that comes naturally when one is a Christian Conservative.
That is one commodity that not only Liberals can’t embrace, they can’t tax it either!
114 Libby Gone // Mar 4, 2008 at 8:30 am

gafisher,
Errrrggghhhh. Yea Genny and her “it’s not a property tax increase, foolish citizens, you’re just paying more, now……….”. The local idiot Libs just don’t get it.
wv: Writing Clinton……… footnote in history, nothing more.
115 gafisher // Mar 4, 2008 at 8:38 am

Amen, and Amen, JL3. To restate my earlier point, no translation or “version” can match the Scriptures in their original languages. Even so, the very “best” Bible can be abused (Satan quoted Scripture in his effort to tempt Christ) and even the very worst translation can be used by the Holy Spirit to change hearts and lives.

The best Bible is the one that gets used.
116 JamesonLewis3rd // Mar 4, 2008 at 9:02 am

A Scenario:
[0300, the phone rings, the machine records:]
Renounce _____ (or Embrace _____) and we won’t tax you or restrict your freedoms (quite as excessively).
[0430, sipping Hot Black Coffee, listens three times]: [slurp]So [slurp], it wasn’t a dream. Hmm. [click][puff][slurp] No [slurp][puff] call-back number [puff][slurp][puff][slurp][puff][puff][cough].

There’s actually snow our roof and vehicles this fine, cloudless, windless morning but the streets upon which we shall travel the 0.90 miles to the Polling Location are dry as a bone and my daffodils are blooming and my most prolific rose bush sprouted several buds overnight (they love the rain).
Thank you
117 Maggie // Mar 4, 2008 at 9:11 am

gafisher re#115

Well said! (as usual)

wvTrolans All- Democratic Party
118 gafisher // Mar 4, 2008 at 10:02 am

For those voting today, please remember that if John McCain goes to the convention with a majority already secured, Conservatives will have no voice. A brokered convention gives us a seat at the table.

wv - Said bodkin - cutting comment. (What are the Ods?)
119 always right // Mar 4, 2008 at 12:45 pm

/Try again.

Sorry, I’ve been locked out (not able to post) for the past couple of months.
Not that I don’t enjoy reading all of your comments.
120 always right // Mar 4, 2008 at 1:09 pm

How do you post a comment these days?
121 da Bunny // Mar 4, 2008 at 1:10 pm

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/03/04/2008-03-04_angry_barack_obama_bombarded_by_media.html

Cut and run, Barry…cut and run.
122 RedPepper // Mar 4, 2008 at 1:33 pm

always right #120: It appears to me that you’re doing OK - what seems to be the difficulty ?

wv= follows Walters ; ah, who could ever replace Babs? Not Rosie, anyway …
123 Shelly // Mar 4, 2008 at 2:12 pm

Great video, Scott. When I first saw this ad I wondered if Hillary wasn’t making a mistake by reminding people of this very issue.

da Bunny, if I might, I would say Whine, cut and run, Barry. I’m so tired of his complaining when he’s being treated like a china doll.
124 Fred Sinclair // Mar 4, 2008 at 2:35 pm

btw - gafisher #115 - It would be impossible for me to agree with you more - I wish I’d written it and am glad you did.

A truly sad and sorry sight is to visit someone you think you know, only to find a Bible on the coffee table that appears to have come fresh out of the box (unless you happen to know that his “old” Bible, that he’s had rebound two or three times, finally passed the point of repair and he had to buy a new one.)

One of the many problems with translating from the original Codexes is the several different words that carry equal validity - the translator must pick and choose which makes the most sense, yet even that is far from infallible - I lived in Greece (Crete) for awhile (1956 - 1959) and learned to speak some “conversational” Modern Greek, which differs somewhat from Ancient Greek.

What I consider an example of what the translators face is the Greek word, phonetically pronounced kuklamu (kukla-moo) kukla = doll and mu on the end of any word denotes possession (ownership) so it’s reasonable to translate it verbatim - “My Doll” and you would be ‘correct’. And you couldn’t be more wrong. Sematically the only word in English to convey the actual meaning is a term of endearment, notably between spouses and that’s “babydoll”. Some lingerie is referred to as “Babydoll Pajamas”

I never learned what a Greek girl calls her Barbie, but it isn’t kuklamu.

I think that most of the variations of Scripture exist because translators chose between similar correct options.

I mentioned “The Message” which I love to read when I just want to luxuriate in the Word. For study I primarily use the New King James w/notes by John MacArthur.

Heirborn Ranger
125 RedPepper // Mar 4, 2008 at 2:46 pm

Shelly: Wait ’til the Obamessiah gets the nomination ! Whining ?

As Al Jolson used to say, You ain’t seen nothin’ yet !

/moon> Jolson? Isn’t he that guy who used to wear blackface ? Why, that’s … that’s … racist ! #&! @$!?!
126 MajorDomo // Mar 4, 2008 at 4:04 pm

Everthink, what is your opinion of Benjamin Spock’s philosophy?
127 Fred Sinclair // Mar 4, 2008 at 5:19 pm

As of 5:17 EST US population registered @ 303,563,661 and therein lies the answer to algoreâ€™s concern re: penguins and Kodiak bears.
If it could be arranged - all Americans & illegal aliens must be required to package and ship on the same day (July 4th?) 2 trays of ice cubes, mail one tray to The North Pole the other to the South Pole ergo, problem solved.
If that sounds weird, strange, insane? Itâ€™s certainly not as weird, strange or as insane as thinking that:
1. Mankind has influenced global climate change.
2. The government can run a national health care system.
3. The economy can be helped by not cutting and slashing taxes.
4. That world opinion of America can be improved with smaller “cut & run” military.

We were never so well respected as immediately after WWII when we had the most powerful military in the world. Nor so disrespected as when we cut and ran from Viet Nam.

Heirborn Ranger
128 RedPepper // Mar 4, 2008 at 5:42 pm

Fred # 124: If you want to appreciate just how important translation can be, I invite you to try comparing different tranlations (ie different translators) of the same Chinese text - particularly poetry.
129 mindknumbed kid // Mar 4, 2008 at 6:04 pm

Obama: Sermon on Mount Justifies Same-Sex Unions
CNSNews.com

Obscure? Obscure passage in Romans? This is nothing but “voodoo” Christianity, do it yourself doctrines, if this joker ends up being President, I may be going to jail or a mental hospital. Is this some new tactic to go under the radar….”It shouldn’t be called marriage”, but we’ll recognize it equally? This stuff is surely enough to make our loving God’s blood boil!If this is the future of America I may renounce my citizenship here and claim my Heavenly citizenship……

I’ve been to Hocking College…..I’ve watched WTAP - TV, I feel violated!
130 Fred Sinclair // Mar 4, 2008 at 6:22 pm

RP - 128 I sent you a different sort of translation. check your email.

Heirborn Ranger
131 mindknumbed kid // Mar 4, 2008 at 6:27 pm

Of all of the bibles available, I like mine the best. The original Word is and will always be Christ, so if you walk ank talk with him each day, Andy (God’s first name according to the song) you wil have the bestest Bible ever. But you gotta be real, not a faker, not someone that thinks they can tell God what he meant to say, or doesn’t “know” any of the “obscure” passages. The bible itself ats that no scripture is of private interpretation, or in other words, no one can make it say what they “think” or “want” it to say.
132 Fred Sinclair // Mar 4, 2008 at 6:32 pm

mkk - 129 -I got that too - Excerpt from quote of Barack McLiberal Obama, Jr.

â€œPeople who are gay and lesbian should be treated with dignity and respect and the state should not discriminate against them,â€ said Obama on Sunday in a campaign speech at Hocking College in Nelsonville, Ohio. â€œI donâ€™t think it [a same-sex union] should be called marriage, but I think that it is a legal right that they should have that is recognized by the stateâ€¦.If people find that controversial then I would just refer them to the Sermon on the Mount, which I think is, in my mind, for my faith, more central than an obscure passage in Romans.â€
133 mindknumbed kid // Mar 4, 2008 at 6:36 pm

The bible itself says that no scripture is of private interpretation. My ‘puter is possessed …or I am dog tired, take your pick. I came home today and the first thig I read was Obamination living up to his name in Ohio, enough to ruin a person’s whole week. Liberal religionists are as evil as it gets, and you can quote me on that.
134 onlineanalyst // Mar 4, 2008 at 6:38 pm

I wasn’t ignoring your #109 post, ET. I had a number of errands of mercy that took up most of the day.

Mrs. Bennett in the video seems to be a lovely, gentle lady. The experience that she describes happened over 60 years ago though; she does not appear to be a person who has nursed a grievance all of that time, I would hope. What she fails to express in her support of Obama is the message of Dr. King in that a person should be judged by the content of his character, not the color of his skin.

The more that Obama is being scrutinized, the less he appears to have character that is worthy of emulation.
135 everthink // Mar 4, 2008 at 6:42 pm

Major,

Glad to see you back! I’m going to have to rush to get my remaining 999 in today.

Dr Spock:

Well, when our three boys were little, his book was like a new car owner’s manual; but, I would never have let him drive one of my little “cars”.

One of several statements they recall from their youth was: “Vote! You vote? You don’t have a vote, this is not a democracy, it’s a benevolent dictatorship!”

Our oldest was carrier of the month for the Detroit News (14,000 carriers). Our youngest was carrier of the month for the Royal Oak Tribune (several hundred carriers) .

I was also known for saying; bad grades in academics may be tolerated, but bad conduct marks will not!

“Liberal” enough for you?

ET
136 everthink // Mar 4, 2008 at 6:56 pm

MNK

“The bible itself ats that no scripture is of private interpretation, or in other words, no one can make it say what they â€œthinkâ€ or â€œwantâ€ it to say.”

The Word is alive! Some passages speak a new message with each reading. The Lord often speaks to a current concern, in a way you might not expect, in the re-reading His word.

ET
137 mindknumbed kid // Mar 4, 2008 at 7:13 pm

A passage has one primary interpretation, but numerous perhaps limitless practical applications, it is not “living” as in “changing”, like the US constitution is not a living breathing ever changing document, though many wish it so.
138 mindknumbed kid // Mar 4, 2008 at 7:16 pm

Like Jesus is saying in one passage on Monday, Thou shalt not….but on Friday he drops the not? NOT !!
139 Fred Sinclair // Mar 4, 2008 at 7:26 pm

mkk 132 - Everybody likes their version and their church best. Mine was and is my favorite - even over The Message and the NKJV - “The Berkley Version” purchased in Wash. D.C. in 1960, I’ve had it recovered twice and it’s a mess now. It’s currently available (retitled due the the Liberalism associated with the name Berkley) as “The Modern Language Bible” published by Zonderman. It’s the one that translates II Cor. 9:7’s “cheerful” correctly as “hilarious”.

btw - I’ve figured out why our resident trolls are so antagonistic to Christian Conservatism. It’s in Gal. 5:11 - The cross of Christ is an offense -
1. To morality; because works cannot justify
2. To philosophy; because it appeals to faith, not reason
3. To culture; because it’s truth is revealed to little children and babes
4. To caste; because God chooses the poor and humble
5. To the will; because it calls for unconditional surrender

The original New Testament has the word “slave” 130 times. Other than Goodspeed’s translation that uses them. The rest use it only when directed toward slaves ie: once (1) they instead use the word “servant” which doesn’t slap so hard on the ears, so He (Jesus) actually said, “Well done My good and faithful slave.”

I don’t think our trolls like the idea of being someone’s slave (or servant), especially someone they can’t even see or even believe in for that matter.

The Apostle Thomas was like that and Jesus told him that blessed as he was, having seen, even more blessed would be those that would come later and believe, not having seen.

Trolls don’t like that either, in part because a true conversion would alter their will and make for a changed lifestyle (Rom. 6:4) and then they too would be Christian Conservatives.

Heirborn Ranger
140 mindknumbed kid // Mar 4, 2008 at 7:30 pm

It is quick and powerful, sharper than any two-edged sword…..quick meaning alive, true. But if his word changes, it means he (Christ) changes, but his word (Bible) say that Jesus Christ is the same, yesterday (past), today (present), and forever (future). It ain’t like he says one day he is not for beastiality one day and then later says, I think that is alright now, as long as you say tou are one of mine….
Men who are not liking what he says are always trying to say he said something different than what he has said, not so. “There is a way that seemeth right to a man”….unfortunate the simple man believes that his way IS right.
141 mindknumbed kid // Mar 4, 2008 at 7:50 pm

Fred - That Gal 5:11 piece is really good, I may use that sometime if it is alright with you.
Wisdom, knowledge and understanding, go together sort of like the trinity, all working together in a way that helps us to be a better (more perfect) people.
142 everthink // Mar 4, 2008 at 8:08 pm

“Like Jesus is saying in one passage on Monday, Thou shalt notâ€¦.but on Friday he drops the not? NOT !!”

I didn’t say that did I?

Please, don’t start listing all the stupid things I didn’t say, stick the the ones I did say, will you?

That should keep you busy enough!

ET
143 Fred Sinclair // Mar 4, 2008 at 8:11 pm

mkk - 141 - I wrote that in D.C. on the flyleaf in my Bible back in 1960, figured it might come in handy someday.

I’ve used it a lot in conversation, when witnessing, but this is the first time I’ve written it out. so go ahead and use it. I’ve had it for 48 years, so I can’t cite my source.

Heirborn Ranger
144 mindknumbed kid // Mar 4, 2008 at 8:33 pm

After 48 years you can claim it as your own, probably no one would dispute it! Thanks, I may preach that outline sometime. (No I am not a bonafide preacher) Probably not a real bonafide anything!Maybe procrastinator, I’m good at that!
145 gafisher // Mar 4, 2008 at 8:48 pm

MKK Re#144: I’ve always wanted to become a procrastinator but just never seem to find the time.
146 mindknumbed kid // Mar 4, 2008 at 8:54 pm

gafisher - Try taking classes on organization, it could help you make the time.
147 mindknumbed kid // Mar 4, 2008 at 9:04 pm

For the first time in my life the IRS says they want more money from me….what’s up with that? If the people get their “messiah” I guess I had better get used to it. I really find money to be one of life’s most nasty problems, whether you have it or you don’t, it sems like a hassle to me. Gotta feel sorry for those that are so enamored with the stuff. It is the most vain things ever created, nuisance, every bit of it. Please, someone do something about the tax system, it seems to me that it is designed to steer you to do what the government wants you to do.
148 mindknumbed kid // Mar 4, 2008 at 9:09 pm

Reminds me of cattle in a chute, no choice as to what to do, whenever I get in one of those “chutes” at a fast food place or bank I commence to bawlin’ like an old cow that was recently separated from her calf. My wife just rolls her eyes…
149 RedPepper // Mar 4, 2008 at 9:26 pm

gafisher #145: Never put off until tomorrow something you can postpone for 2 or 3 months.
150 Fred Sinclair // Mar 5, 2008 at 1:52 am

mkk - 147 - “…I really find money to be one of lifeâ€™s most nasty problems, whether you have it or you donâ€™t, it sems like a hassle to me. Gotta feel sorry for those that are so enamored with the stuff…..”

Please don’t disparage money. For their day, Abraham, David, Solomon and Jesus, to name only a few, had more money than today’s Bill Gates, Soros, Edwards, Kerry, etc. Money as you’ve heard isn’t evil, it’s the love of money (greed) that’s the root of all evil.

Money is the basis of freedom. If you have $100.00 and go into a restaurant and the most expensive item is $99.00 then you’re free to order anything on the menu. Now there’s only two people who can take your moned, (1) A robber with a gun, “Gimmie your wallet!” and (2) The government. Say they take 30% from your paycheck, then you are limited (not free) in what you can buy from that menu. 40, 50 or 80 % like in Sweden or India where at $5,000.00 you are legally wealthy so they tax anything over 5K @ 95%.

So naturally the workers @ 5K take the rest of the year off and spend their time playing board fames under the banyan tree.

America’s success is because we do less of that than any of the other countries. The higher the taxes, the poorer the country.
Freedom allows you to care for your family, friends and leave “…an inheritance for your children’s children…” and the commandment to honor your parents is more than to respect and obey - “honor” is from the same root word from which we get the word “honorarium” to provide for their needs (not necessarily ‘wants’) as they cared for you as a child. Rent, transportation, food, etc. all require money.

I believe God blesses those He can trust to be good stewards with finances. Tithing, supporting charities you believe in, your church (gifts and offerings). The old lady down the street whose fridge or stove crashes and you can call Sears and tell them to meet that need, send you the bill and make sure she doesn’t know the source. (and by the way, they’ll do it.)

The “Good Samaritan” would never made history if he had been broke.

A touch of humor, I’ve always thought, when it came to taxes, Jesus didn’t want to waste his money so He had Peter catch a fish and the first one caught would have a coin in it’s mouth - enough to pay for both of their taxes. - That’s an often overlooked miracle of His. Rates right up there with water walking & winemaking.

Heirborn Ranger
151 gafisher // Mar 5, 2008 at 6:18 am

Fred Re#150: Have you had a chance to read Heinlein’s discussion of money in “For Us The Living” yet? The fact that “money” (specie) no longer represents tangibles (gold, silver, etc.) changes the equation quite significantly.
152 Darthmeister // Mar 5, 2008 at 6:40 am

So neverthink is now a Bible scholar, eh? Buwahahahahahaha!

Lucifer knows the Bible far better than any of us knows - particular neverthink - and that “knowledge” will only get them (Lucifer and his minions) greater judgment.

Your views on any number of issues, which you have made so public here neverthink, will come back to haunt you on that day and your messiah Obama isn’t going to save you.

If there are two issues today which can be considered moral watersheds that place you squarely in the camp of the father of lies its the issues of “homosexual marriage” (sic) and abortion. Though I will receive great condemnation from those whose righteousness has only foundations in the depravity of their own minds, there is no way a Christian can be pro-abortion and pro-homosexual marriage. The Holy Spirit would place such a person under great conviction. It would be like saying, “I’m a Christian but a believe in ritual rape and incest.”

Such a “Christian” will be a part of the Great Babylon to come. And I’ll be so bold as to predict that a large part of Catholicism, Protestantism and even Evangelicalism will find themselves a part of this debauched Last Days ecumenicalism which will prove to be little more than warmed-over secular humanism. And you, my dear depraved friend, will be right at home in that Great Babylon “utopia”. You practically yearn for that man-made utopianism with every post you make here.

Some “angel of light” you are. Quit flattering yourself. You’re not fooling anyone here.
153 mindknumbed kid // Mar 5, 2008 at 11:14 am

Darth - It is a good thing that you aren’t trying to run for dog catcher or anything else. But try as I might I couldn’t find any error with it, but the folks down at 1st Assembly of Self-Deception Church are not happy with those hate-filled comments and they are marking you off their invitation to guest speak list. Is it any wonder that the bible tells us about a coming “great and terrible day of the Lord” ? Yikes! I wouldn’t want to be on the receiving end that day.
154 Darthmeister // Mar 5, 2008 at 5:21 pm

Over a period of thirty years I’ve read the King James Version, New King James Versions, Revised Standard Version, New International Version, New American Standard Version (also known as NASB - “Bible”), Revised Standard Version, Revised English Bible (geared toward English speaking Brits), Jerusalem Bible, New Jerusalem Bible, Revised Standard/Greek Interlinear. In my view the Living Bible is on the edge of acceptability since it attempts to “dumb down” scripture for those with less than a fourth grade education - an honorable but misguided intention on the part of those translators.

For anyone who has an open heart and not trying to “read into” the Scripture their theological prejudices, all translations above are quite adequate for the spiritual person who has Jesus in their heart. I think this “it-depends-on-what-translation-you-read” is a world-worn canard to cast doubt on the living Word of God. The Word of God is indeed living in that it applies to every generation, but that doesn’t mean it “changes” from one generation to the next. God’s unalterable word has one intepretation but many applications as noted by mnk and other spirit-led believers posting here.

Does that mean there won’t be differences of opinion about God’s unchanging Word? Of course not, but honorable people willing to look at various translations and then honestly try to understand what the Holy Writ means instead of trying to advance a theological construct can have complete confidence in any of the translations above, just as Spanish-speaking believers can have confidence in their various Spanish translations and the German-speaking believer can have confidence in their German translation.

My recommendation for a serious study Bible - for those Americans who speak English as their first language - is the New American Standard Bible. Personally I believe most if not all commentaries are completely useless and merely advance certain man-made theological constructs.

Now, will every believer, or for that matter any believer, eventually understand the totality of Scripture in one lifetime? Of course not, but the plain meaning of the major texts which form the foundation of traditional Christian understanding about the nature of God, the sinful nature of man, the mission of Christ and the regenerative message of the Good News (the Gospel) is not undercut or ameliorated by the vast majority of English translations we have today.

However, if someone wants to debate about what “baptism for the dead” really means, then have at it because there is not enough information historically or biblically for anyone to be dogmatic about what it really means or what it meant to the Apostle Paul and first century Christians. But “baptism for the dead” is not an integral part of the Gospel and in this age ends up being a teaching which may merely “tickle the ear”.

How many ways can “Jesus wept” be translated? So one translation might say “Jesus cried”, another might say “Jesus lamented” … what’s the difference to an honest reader?

The only “translations” one has to be wary of are those which try to be “gender neutral”, particular those which refer to God as “she”. Jesus wasn’t a “she”. Also steer clear of the Watchtower’s New World Translation. The “translators” of this tweaked translation remain anonymous (they are probably all Jehovah Witnesses) and it’s pretty clear in reading the NWT that it attempts to revise any scriptural passage which testifies to the divine nature of Jesus Christ. But in the process they did miss a few which I’ve pointed out to Jehovah Witnesses over the years.

It’s not the translations which are the problem, rather its the hearts of man who won’t humble themselves under the mighty hand of God. Unfortunately that also includes all of the redeemed! But God doesn’t require us to “know all” in order to serve the cause of Christ. Only God knows exactly what He meant with every Word He has spoken to mankind - but theoretically it is knowable and it doesn’t change. And God is perfectly willing to reveal His wisdom through any translation since His Word is living and active and sharper than any two-edged sword that nothing can obscure. The word of God is so great it takes an active attempt to distort it beyond recognition to strip it of any redeeming power.

We must learn to concern ourselves with majoring on the major points of Scripture and minoring on those more obscure passages and teachings which we may never be mature or wise enough to fully know. This type of humility will go a long ways in advancing the Gospel of Christ and help us resist the corruptions of those pretenders to the faith who seek to upset with “wordly wisdom” those who are found in the Church of the Living God.
155 everthink // Mar 5, 2008 at 11:37 pm

“So neverthink is now a Bible scholar, eh? Buwahahahahahaha!”

Didn’t I say that!

“Lucifer knows the Bible far better than any of us knows - particular neverthink - and that â€œknowledgeâ€ will only get them (Lucifer and his minions) greater judgment.”

That has been said dozens of times here!

Darthmeister, I do know evil when I see it! Be still now.

ET
156 Possumtrot // Mar 6, 2008 at 10:28 am

Aww, for Heaven’s sake, won’t someone answer the doggone phone?

These Biblical discussions are very enlightening, but when President Obama takes office in 2009, you’re going to be wondering who’s answering the phone.

In case no one noticed, they’re tossing bombs at the troops in Manhattan today.

Go ahead, live blindly. You will get the government you deserve.
157 Possumtrot // Mar 6, 2008 at 10:54 am

Why doesnâ€™t some one answer the doggone phone?

These Biblical discussions are very enlightening but when President-elect Obama and his running mate, Hillary, wander into the Oval Office, youâ€™ll be wondering whoâ€™s going to answer the phone.

In case no one noticed, they are tossing bombs at the troops in Manhattan today. An earlier version of this comment get chewed up and spat out by ScrappleFace. All I had to do was type in â€œ10â€ and â€œRodriguezâ€ of all ludicrous things. It didnâ€™t work. This needs to be changed, Great Scott.

Keep arguing about The Bible, and you will find your spiritual beliefs blown up your nether regions. You will get the government you deserve.

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