(2007-10-08) — House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-CA, today issued a formal apology on behalf of “all people of Italian ancestry for the devastation caused by Christopher Colombus’ tragic discovery of the so-called New World.”
“We who enjoy the great benefits of Italian blood, must also share the blame for the bloodshed sparked by that misguided Italian,” she said. “The voyage of Columbus lead to the foundation of the greatest oppressor nation the world has ever seen, and eventually to the egregious election of George W. Bush, who started the illegal war in Iraq. We owe the planet an apology.”
The Speaker said she will introduce legislation this week creating a new tax on “pasta, pizza and certain sausages with the revenue going to pay reparations to the indigenous people of this formerly magnificent land.”
127 responses so far ↓
1 JamesonLewis3rd // Oct 8, 2007 at 8:41 am
God Bless America
2 onlineanalyst // Oct 8, 2007 at 8:48 am
The prototype for Spiderwoman, Nanny Pulloutsy, dances another tarantella around the facts in order to make a few political points.
3 onlineanalyst // Oct 8, 2007 at 9:01 am
In related Pelosi news, Andrew Cline notes that the Dems are introducing further “populist” bills to stir up the base against presidential candidate Bush:
Even as they ramped up the political pressure on the president (re the vetoing of the S-CHIP bill), Democrats were having aides drawing up another bill, tentatively titled the “Porn, Pizza, and Lottery Ticket Distribution Act of 2007.”
More about pending legislation “to protect the most vulnerable” here.
4 Hawkeye // Oct 8, 2007 at 9:24 am
Let’s all hang our heads in shame. America, and GWB in particular, is the cause of all the world’s problems. sigh…
5 Hawkeye // Oct 8, 2007 at 9:25 am
OLA #2,
the prototype for Spiderwoman… funny.
6 Ms RightWing, Ink // Oct 8, 2007 at 9:27 am
Put a tax on sausage and soon you will have a black market on pig parts. My heavens, Scrapple may be hard to find if Pelosi has her way.
Yes, we consumed such at the face 2 face and though the pig parts will legal at that time, I’m afraid this action may cause a ruckus among the Pennsylvania Dutch, ya
7 boberinyetagain // Oct 8, 2007 at 9:27 am
Since my great-grandmother was Cherokee, we’ll take it. Thanks for the offer Scott
8 Darthmeister // Oct 8, 2007 at 9:29 am
Just think, if those crazy Italian “explorers” hadn’t illegally and immorally invaded the pre-Colombian New World, Indians would have turned this land into a veritable utopia by now and buffalo would carpet the Great Plains. It was only after the white man showed up that certain Indian tribes began experimenting with cannibalism and raiding each others villages. The white man taught these noble savages living in a pristine land how to hate and kill.
The average life expectancy of the North American Indian used to be around 28 to 30 years of age. Just like the white man to come along and increase that to nearly 70 years of age in order to torture these noble savages with sheer boredom and the broken promises of untold riches from Indian casinos. Christopher Columbus was little more than a Genghis Kahn in “little Eichmann” clothing.
9 conserve-a-tips // Oct 8, 2007 at 9:46 am
Since my great-great grandmother was Cherokee and my husband’s grandmother was Creek, we would like to tell Pelosi, politely, to shut up.
The Native American Motto: Taking back America one quarter at a time.
10 boberinyetagain // Oct 8, 2007 at 9:57 am
c-a-t, we are finally getting a bit of revenge eh?
Sweet! Odd that they still won’t let us have fire water but it is what it is
11 JamesonLewis3rd // Oct 8, 2007 at 10:13 am
B. Hussein Obama may (or may not) be of Italian or Native American descent but, when he made the remarks found here, he reaffirmed my perception that he is insane-stark, raving mad-woo-hoo.
12 Libby Gone // Oct 8, 2007 at 10:16 am
Ms. Pelousy will use any excuse to extract some additional vigorish from us poverettes.
13 RedPepper // Oct 8, 2007 at 10:43 am
Where’s the satire ?
14 da Bunny // Oct 8, 2007 at 10:56 am
I have Cherokee blood in me, and I’m married to an Italian. Guess that means I’m sleeping with the enemy.
If I prepare “pasta, pizza, or certain sausages,” having paid tax to purchase said items, then I’ll be paying reparations to myself. Wow…it’ll be a win-win!!
15 Ms RightWing, Ink // Oct 8, 2007 at 11:10 am
Once upon my life during my rough-rider persona days, when I drove the big rig hither and yon I was taken aback when I went to Massy-chews-us on Columbus day and nary a place was open. Seems like the further east one travels the more they puff up the misguided Italian.
What the history books don’t tell the young students is Leif Erickson and Eric the Red already had a Lutefisk franchise all across North America before that old sausage grinder was even bjorn.
So there!
16 Scott Ott // Oct 8, 2007 at 11:41 am
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17 boberinyetagain // Oct 8, 2007 at 11:59 am
My goodness, you are one busy man!
18 Ms RightWing, Ink // Oct 8, 2007 at 12:23 pm
Simply said. In 60 seconds he has spoken
ONE VIKING SPEAKS OUT
http://shellyscafe.blogspot.com/
19 Ms RightWing, Ink // Oct 8, 2007 at 12:30 pm
Okay, now I am back in the dark ages, what is a facebook. Jeesh, I spent a whole weekend trying to decode wordage in order to get a bug out of my computer. I changed virus protector systems and chased the critter all through my files. Now, there is more to learn.
(The endeavor was successful)
20 Darthmeister // Oct 8, 2007 at 12:32 pm
I’m one-eighth Cherokee. You can just call me Darth Spear Chucker. I’m pretty good with a bow, too, especially those compound hunting bows. Used to ride bareback around the countryside in Texas. Today I have a love for repeating rifles but I never developed a taste for whiskey. Have I hit all the stereotypes yet?
When I was younger I always wondered why I was fascinated with the wooden Indians that were en vogue during the 1950s. After my dad me about my grandmother’s heritage before I graduated high school, everything fell into place!
21 boberinyetagain // Oct 8, 2007 at 12:33 pm
Ms. it’s on a “need to know” basis and trust me, you don’t need to.
Mostly teens hooking up with each other although I’m sure many adults feel the need to be “out there” too.
22 onlineanalyst // Oct 8, 2007 at 12:54 pm
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23 Maggie // Oct 8, 2007 at 1:03 pm
I’ve met a Cherokee………
24 Ms RightWing, Ink // Oct 8, 2007 at 1:36 pm
Well, since my birthplace was Cherokee, Iowa (Northeast Iowa’s chief town)does that make me Indian to flow on an equal basis with my Scandinavian/Celtic blood?
Anyhow, who is this Columbus dude?
Can I say it enough times, he was late to the supper table.
wcco.com/topstories/local_story_143121108.html -
25 Darthmeister // Oct 8, 2007 at 2:04 pm
Muslim Terrorists Endorse Hillary for ‘08!
There’s a ringing endorsement.
26 boberinyetagain // Oct 8, 2007 at 2:19 pm
“President Clinton wanted to give the Palestinians 98 percent of the West Bank territories. I hope Hillary will move a step forward and will give the Palestinians all their rights. She has the chance to save the American nation and the Americans life.”
Sounds like folks that will “follow us home” to me
27 prettyold // Oct 8, 2007 at 2:49 pm
Wonder why Old Nancy didn’t put a tax on wine? Wouldn’t Pelosi Wine be considerd Italian Wine?
Oh , I guess that’s why.
28 conserve-a-tips // Oct 8, 2007 at 2:53 pm
Boberin, the Presbyterian USA, a couple of years ago, issued an order of divestment of any funds in companies, entities, etc. who were either in Israel or invested in Israel and made some pretty strong statements in favor of the “plight of the Palestinians”. They had nothing but reprimanding words for Israel. Then, after Israel had given land to the Palestinians, Syria assassinated the Lebonese leader and funded and weaponized terrorists to attack Israel, including kidnapping young soldiers who were on the Israeli side. Noone has heard from them again. The Presbyterian church lifted their “fatwah” against Israel and apologized, finally realizing that terrorism has absolutely nothing to do with Palestine and everything to do with the annihilation of Israel and the west in order to establish a caliphate. If we made a whole new state for those people, they would continue to practice terrorism here and everywhere because it is their belief that we are all evil, we are all idolators and we are all better off dead.
29 conserve-a-tips // Oct 8, 2007 at 2:58 pm
Scott: I read you improvements and was frightened at first. When I saw the heading “Editor’s Picks” I thought that you were going to show in the left hand margin, those posts that you had picked as the worst for the day and that the award for such a dubious honor would be that the post would be sent to Henry Waxman’s taxpayer-funded, not-so-free-speech investigative committee. I was trembling until I saw that you were only talking about books that feed starving people.
30 Shelly // Oct 8, 2007 at 3:08 pm
I think they should still use the money to benefit the poor children, like the twelve year-old who gave the Democrat radio address. I mean, for those parents to have to struggle with the cost of a half-million dollar home and pay $20,000 per year for each of the children’s tuition, and then be expected to cover health insurance. How heartless can Republicans be? Those Dems sure know how to pick a poster victim.
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/
?q=MDAzYjY5OWVkMmQxZTJmNTZlNDNjZTlhOGU3NjNlZDA=
31 boberinyetagain // Oct 8, 2007 at 3:28 pm
c-a-t, fortunately there are about 5000 total terrorists on the planet and most of them are stupid, underarmed, underfunded and obvoiusly underloved. They throw rocks as often as they use any other weapon. For them “state of the art” weapons are oversized bottle rockets which kill an average of .001 people per launch.
But Iraqis mad at other Iraqis are in abundance (even those allegedly on the same side) and they can get weapons from one of the worlds true super powers.
32 prettyold // Oct 8, 2007 at 5:45 pm
bober,about #31, your source is……….?
I’m sure you can back this up with hard facts. My guess would be there are at least 5,000 terrorists just in the United States,but I don’t have a source, either.
33 Ms RightWing, Ink // Oct 8, 2007 at 5:57 pm
According to News Max.Com
Get ready for Don Imus.
The radio shock jock, who was fired in April by CBS Radio and MSNBC after he called the Rutgers University women’s basketball team “nappy-headed hos,” has reportedly reached a financial deal to return to the airwaves.
According to Howard Kurtz of the Washington Post, Imus could be back behind a microphone around Dec. 1. Citadel Broadcasting, which owns 243 radio stations, including ABC Radio Networks, plans to give Imus a morning show on New York’s WABC. The program would be offered in syndication to other stations around the country.
Contractual details are likely be finalized within a week, and Imus is expected to be paid millions of dollars.
According to Kurtz, Imus also has discussed the possibility that the new Fox Business Network would carry his radio show.
© 2007 NewsMax. All rights reserved.
Okay, you nappy minded-liberals, get ready. Maybe his return will take the heat off Rush
34 Beerme // Oct 8, 2007 at 5:59 pm
Well, boberin, I understand your reason for that “over-the-top” explanation of the meaning of terrorism but it certainly doesn’t make it any more true. No matter what you think of Bush’s war and the terrorism being fought in Iraq, There’s a whole helluva lot more terrorists in this world and they’re using a bit more than bottle rockets.
It is an incredible insult to the people who daily deal with terrorist acts (including Iraqis, Israelis, Afghanis, Morroccans, Britons, Danes, etc.) to describe their plight thus. Innocent people are being maimed and killed daily across this planet by these “terrorists”. Kinda makes those bottle rockets more dangerous than they sound…
Hate Bush and the Iraq war all you want but don’t let it cloud your understanding of world events so that you sound like an idjit!
35 Ms RightWing, Ink // Oct 8, 2007 at 6:01 pm
Scandal-marred Sandy Berger Advising Hillary
Monday, October 8, 2007 10:28 AM
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Also from the same site:
Former Bill Clinton adviser Sandy Berger is now serving as an adviser to candidate Hillary – even though he was caught removing and destroying classified documents from the National Archives and lost his security clearance until September 2008.
36 nylecoj // Oct 8, 2007 at 7:21 pm
How many bottle rockets does it take to build an IED?
37 nylecoj // Oct 8, 2007 at 7:28 pm
Or for that matter a specially shaped charge that emits the force directionally to do more damage.
Shaped Charges
38 nylecoj // Oct 8, 2007 at 7:29 pm
http://www.defense-update.com/features/du-2-05/IED-2.htm
Okay try this, sorry
39 Chris // Oct 8, 2007 at 7:55 pm
What if you’re only half Italian, would you pay half the taxes?
40 Ms RightWing, Ink // Oct 8, 2007 at 8:34 pm
It is about time someone started thinking straight about allowing teachers to carry guns to school
http://www.newsnet5.com/education/14294896/detail.html
41 everthink // Oct 8, 2007 at 10:09 pm
Well Darth Spear Chucker,
You sound like quite a guy; but since you ask there is one you missed, and no amount of shooting, spitting, and bragging will substitute.
42 Ms RightWing, Ink // Oct 9, 2007 at 12:44 am
Thank goodness Algore turned off his global warming machine today. We have finished a 4 day record heat wave with near 90 temp today. Big cool down heading our way.
43 Ms RightWing, Ink // Oct 9, 2007 at 12:45 am
push
44 debass // Oct 9, 2007 at 1:14 am
We only need 250 more 9/11s to eliminate all the terrorists in the world. Of course that would also eliminate 750,000 Americans assuming the same kill ratio of 20 dumb guys to 3000 Americans. Any volunteers to be blown up first? Boberin, what’s your address?
45 gafisher // Oct 9, 2007 at 6:18 am
Chris Re#39: “What if you’re only half Italian, would you pay half the taxes?”
You would be permitted to pay as much as you like, but you’d be only half asked.
46 random // Oct 9, 2007 at 6:33 am
Funny gafisher- what if you’re married to an Italian? Is it on the honey-do-list?
47 random // Oct 9, 2007 at 6:36 am
How much of Palestine is occupied by Lebanon?
48 JamesonLewis3rd // Oct 9, 2007 at 7:07 am
None of Palestine is occupied.
49 Darthmeister // Oct 9, 2007 at 8:25 am
Chimps choose more rationally than humans…
I guess that means President Bush is more rational than his moonbat critics. Oh what cruel irony!
50 Darthmeister // Oct 9, 2007 at 8:26 am
… puuuuuuush
51 boberinyetagain // Oct 9, 2007 at 8:46 am
debass, Ambler Pa, bring em on! I work in Burlington NJ, about 3 miles from the army base that the pizza delivery men were planning to attack. Oddly, this did not cause myself or any co-workers even one moment of “terror” so I guess they truly are losing.
And the 20 dumb guys you refer to? What country were 80% of them from exactly? And, what have we done to address that country, its leaders or its actions? I can wait
The “bottle rockets” I refer to are those things that the rain down in batches of 40 or 50 on Israel after which the news reports that 1 abandoned car and a dumpster we heavily damaged from the attack. Yeah, those
52 Libby Gone // Oct 9, 2007 at 9:05 am
Random,
Palestine IS occupied.
by 18,166 happy Texans!
http://www.city-data.com/city/Palestine-Texas.html
53 JamesonLewis3rd // Oct 9, 2007 at 9:08 am
Pronounced Pal-eh-STEEN.
54 camojack // Oct 9, 2007 at 9:30 am
Columbus? He was lost, actually…and never set foot in the present-day States.
55 conserve-a-tips // Oct 9, 2007 at 9:35 am
Libby Gone - right next to Rusk! Took the steam locomotive from Palestine to Rusk. What a blast.
Boberin: Your lack of fear does not negate the reality of worldwide Islamic terrorism. People in Ireland, during the rise of the IRA, lived their daily lives, not in fear, but in a realistic knowledge that their days could be short, making the most of them. If we are afraid, then yes, they’ve won. But the fact is, if we are not afraid, then we are better able to assess their tactics, their movements and their discussions. I don’t know where you got your numbers and I don’t know where you got your view of the Iraqui people but I take you to this article from the Telegraph - not exactly your rightwing newspaper. It tells a totally different story from yours and they’ve been there.
56 boberinyetagain // Oct 9, 2007 at 9:56 am
c-a-t, cool article!
Never for a moment think that I don’t yearn for the effort to succeed (only now that we are trapped). That would mean that troops would stop dying and we could being most of them home.
Yes, I’m skeptical that even a stable Iraq (what is the benchmark for “stability” anyway?) will produce anything like ME peace. Yes, I can wish really hard for such a thing but there is something about 3000 years of conflict that leads me to rationally believe otherwise. Please forgive my lack of rose colored glasses.
We have meddled long and hard over there. We were certain that Saddam had weapons because we sullied them to him. The crafty bastard foiled us by destroying them when we told him to (a crafy move there) but we still decided to meddle some more.
Too bad we missed the chance to invade North Korea, it at least appears as though negotiation might have worked so a golden opportunity to win hearts and minds by killing people has been at least postponed if not lost completely.
There is still time to make Iran the “boogyman of the month” but with elections looming there our time grows short because they are not likely to re-elect “Hitler” and we will have to bide our time yet again….hurry
57 conserve-a-tips // Oct 9, 2007 at 10:30 am
Boberin: Where do I start? I guess with the WMD’s…did you not read about the explosion in Syria that killed a boatload of their engineers who were trying to fit bombs with Sarin gas, mustard gas and various and sundry agents just a couple of weeks ago? Do you remember the scientist who escaped and testified that he had personally helped fly WMD’s from Iraq into Syria? Of course the MSM didn’t cover it because it hurt their argument that Saddam had complied with the UN and was a victim. Have you not assessed all of the chlorine gas explosions that happened in Iraq by insurgents coming in from Syria and Iran or the caches of mustard gas that were found? Even IF Saddam had destroyed everything and was just bluffing the world, is that not a stupid game of Russian Roulette to be playing with a world that has a loaded gun?
I don’t know why man thinks that this world can ever achieve peace anywhere. Men are basically self seeking and without Christ, there is no peace either among men or between men. This object of creating peace in the Middle East is a pipe dream that can’t be realized by man’s attempts. But that does not mean that evil can’t and won’t be held accountable. When people do wrong, they eventually pay for it. All through scripture nations and individuals are taken out or down because of their rebellion and their evil. God uses other men, other nations and circumstances to take them out. Saddam was playing a deadly game and he paid for it. It is no different from an idividual who heads up a gang that terrorizes a neighborhood and kills just for the sake of killing and terrorizing. That individual is caught by authorities in a hail of bullets that takes out some of his gang members and he ends up with the death penalty. Civilians end up paying the price for evil in their midst and that is just because sin is no respector of persons.
58 boberinyetagain // Oct 9, 2007 at 10:52 am
c-a-t, where do I start? I’ve asked before, will ask again. OK, Saddam had weapons but, even in the face of certain defeat chose to ship them elsewhere rather than use them? Is that the scenario that I’m supposed to believe?
If so, those weapons went to Syrai and they decided 4 years later to try to hook some of them up to bombs and that went badly?
These are stretches of the imagination but hardly the work of “madmen”. A madman (and even a reasonably sane man) would use what weapons he had, conventoinal, nuclear, gasseous, whatever in a war that was surely being lost. He wouldn’t ship them off. If he did, why would those he sent them to wait 4 or 5 years to try to use them? Throw me a semblance of an explanation for any of that.
Ok, so, no peace in the ME, on that we appear to agree. So, we went over because Saddam was a mean man? Fair enough I suppose. There are other mean men in charge of other peoples, were then, are now. Why aren’t we helping them?
59 Darthmeister // Oct 9, 2007 at 11:09 am
bober, so I suppose when we hear when it’s all added up that on average it takes something like 45,000 fired rounds to kill one soldier in battle, then we can assume that war isn’t really all that dangerous after all. It’s that 45,001st bullet that you have to worry about, right?
Also, aren’t you now admitting that we’ve so degraded the quality of jihadists that we’re only left with the incompetent third-string nutsquad? I’ll consider that faint praise for what the Bush Administration and the American military have been able to accomplish the last six years on battlefield Earth.
60 Darthmeister // Oct 9, 2007 at 11:24 am
Actually 500 WMD were left in Iraq and were subsequently found by the American military in various arms depots.
Certainly not the secret stockpiles we anticipated but they were WMD nonetheless. Why do I believe this? When the news about these WMD were released, the Bush critics themselves validated their existence by pooh-poohing the WMD’s date of manufacture, the way they were stored and their supposedly lack of operational capability despite the fact some of them were quite pristine.
Unfortunately for the Bush-haters, UN Resolution 1441 did not contain any exclusionary language based on date of manufacture, storage conditions, etc. Those weapons, along with other missile programs and WMD programs waiting to be reconstituted once the UN inspectors left in 2003 that were uncovered in fact represented very real material violations of UN Resolution 1441 and also provided further proof that Saddam had WMD capability all the way up to the day of the March 2003 invasion.
It’s interesting that Saddam’s regime is acknowledged to have had in its possession WMD when gassing the Iranians and the Kurds and all the way up to 1998 when UNSCOM left Iraq because of Saddam’s lack of cooperation as mandated by previous UN Resolutions regarding Iraqi WMD.
Yet critics are left with blaming President Bush for the fact that Saddam’s regime either lost those 500 WMD or simply forgot about them … but I’m not aware of any official document that has come down from on high which proclaims a WMD becomes a conventional weapon because it was stored improperly or has exceeded some arbitrary expiration date. A WMD only ceases to be one when it is completely and utterly dismantled or destroyed which those 500 weapons weren’t.
Too bad the Bush Administration hasn’t been more articulate about this reality.
61 Darthmeister // Oct 9, 2007 at 11:25 am
… bober, quit eating my posts. Sheesh!
62 boberinyetagain // Oct 9, 2007 at 11:42 am
Hank, he had some, we know that because we gave them to him (admittedly so, he used to be our buddy or did you forget that already?). Still, so he kept 500 for “old times sake”? More likely, he either did forget or they were truly unusable because, again, a sane man would use them (save them for a rainy day? doubtful that it could “rain” much harder than it was when we invaded). He wouldn’t “save” them or “ship them to a neighbor” no matter what his level of sanity.
If you want to believe we degraded the enemy, go for it. I do agree that they are left with precious little talent but i debate the fact that they had any to begin with. I doesn’t take a genius to fly a plane into a building, indeed those that are so disposed would be considered a tad dim where I come from.
And you posts are deliciosu and nutritious so, why not eat them?
63 everthink // Oct 9, 2007 at 11:44 am
Say, Two Dogs,
Does this mean you were able to get the government (all of us here) to pay for your education, such as it may be? Sounds like you were in some kinda affirmative action program to me.
I got a deal from the government too, but there were some strings attached to mine.
64 everthink // Oct 9, 2007 at 11:51 am
Say, Two Dogs,
Does this mean you were able to get the government (all of us here) to pay for your education, such as it may be? Sounds like you were in some kinda social program to me.
I got a deal from the government too, but there were some strings attached to mine.
65 everthink // Oct 9, 2007 at 12:16 pm
“I’ll consider that faint praise for what the Bush Administration …”
Look up “faint praise”, Strawman.
66 Hawkeye // Oct 9, 2007 at 12:23 pm
C-A-T #57,
All through scripture nations and individuals are taken out or down because of their rebellion and their evil. God uses other men, other nations and circumstances to take them out.
Amen. God appoints governments and authorities to maintain order in this world. God blesses those governments and nations that seek to do His will, and that strive for righteousness.
Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD -Psalm 33:12
Those nations who reject God and His righteousness become subject to the wrath of God which He executes through other God-fearing nations…
For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of him who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain; he is the servant of God to execute his wrath on the wrongdoer. -Romans 13:1-4
67 everthink // Oct 9, 2007 at 12:32 pm
“For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of him who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain; he is the servant of God to execute his wrath on the wrongdoer. –Romans 13:1-4″
All rulers? George III, Hitler, or … George Bush, The Dumber?
68 boberinyetagain // Oct 9, 2007 at 12:45 pm
Murder, abortion, homosexuality, liberals in general, war, pedophile preists, torture, the list goes on and seems to get worse with each passing day.
And God is pleased with us because?????
We are the blessed????
We are the instrument of rightgeousness??
I must be missing something….
69 Deerslayer // Oct 9, 2007 at 12:59 pm
Bob #68
I must be missing something….
DUH Hello…
70 woodnwheel // Oct 9, 2007 at 1:12 pm
I can’t believe my first comment in this thread is #70. Oh well…
I finally took the time to read this item (I was hooked by the “artificial life” item) and, as seems to be the case a lot with me, I have two thoughts:
1) I always thought Columbus was Spanish, not Italian; must have been the whole Ferdinand & Isabella thing that threw me…
2) If Pelosi introduced a new tax on pasta or pizza, I’d call my member of Congress and demand a tax on surrender monkeys!
71 Libby Gone // Oct 9, 2007 at 1:14 pm
Boberin,
God hates the sin, loves the sinner. Now I can’t speak for others but I personally never engaged in war with a homosexual priest who had a pedophile aborted while torturing liberals who committed murder. Not to say I’m perfect, just didn’t have the opportunity.
72 gafisher // Oct 9, 2007 at 1:35 pm
Everthink Re#67: The Scripture quoted (and which states a principle found repeatedly in the Bible) is not a call to passive cooperation (“I was just following orders …”) but to careful obedience to the Authority behind the authority. Even a cursory reading of Hebrews 11, for example, will demonstrate that God does not expect His people to be doormats — see Heb. 11:27 (or 23-27) regarding Moses “the lawgiver,” verse 31 (Rahab), v36, etc.
In a land posessing a “government of the people by the people” the location of political authority becomes an even more serious question, for at least a portion of that authority lies with each of us.
This in no way excuses disobedience, but it does mean believing citizens are required to carefully assess their relationship with God and respond in the way which best glorifies Him, whether that be challenge or martyrdom.
73 everthink // Oct 9, 2007 at 1:39 pm
Know what these guys have in common?
Sen. Larry Craig
Rep. Mark Foley
Rev. Ted Haggard
No, it is not just that they are queer, they are also Republican Hypocrites! And there are more to come!
74 FaddishSarcasticName // Oct 9, 2007 at 1:42 pm
Phinally Henning shows back up.
Cease and desist.
75 gafisher // Oct 9, 2007 at 1:53 pm
Re#71:
“Jacob I have loved, but Esau I have hated.”
…………………….. God (Romans 9:13)
God hates the sin — that’s why Jesus died — and He hates the unrepentant, unconverted, unregenerate sinner.
76 Libby Gone // Oct 9, 2007 at 2:05 pm
gafisher,
True, and well put.
Now I wonder about those sinners by proxy,you know the one ones who willingly sin, convinced it’s someone elses fault so they are not going to be punished.?.?.?
77 kajun // Oct 9, 2007 at 2:59 pm
I thought Cristobal Colon was the first Portagee to set foot on San Salvador. What’s all this mumbling about Italians, Cherokees, Etal?
78 JamesonLewis3rd // Oct 9, 2007 at 3:07 pm
Ah, Romans. Exhilarating.
Romans 5:3-4
79 everthink // Oct 9, 2007 at 4:02 pm
FaddishSarcasticName,
Coercion and blackmail are the tools of a coward and a tyrant. They are even more shameful when used by the ignorant and stupid.
You have validated my claims, and spoken highly of me and my family. I have nothing to hide, and I can defend myself.
Even those here should be ashamed of you. So, shoot your best, and LAST shot!
PS I know who you are.
80 boberinyetagain // Oct 9, 2007 at 4:14 pm
Libby, there’s still time, be patient!
81 Hawkeye // Oct 9, 2007 at 4:52 pm
neverthink #67,
George III, Hitler, or … George Bush, The Dumber?
“Rulers” can readily be judged as to their righteousness according to what they have done (”for you shall know them by their fruits”). But they will be judged more impartially at a time yet appointed…
For (God) will render to every man according to his works… on that day when, according to my gospel, God judges the secrets of men by Christ Jesus. -Romans 2:16
82 Shelly // Oct 9, 2007 at 4:52 pm
Libby, #71 is fabulous! The United States is consistently criticized for religiosity, then criticized for things that exist in every Western nation - but are fought vehemently only in the US. It’s becoming tiring being too- and not enough- religious all the time. I guess so long as its consistently America’s fault that’s okay. We know the drill.
Deerslayer, #69. I agree, he may be on to something.
Anyone else wonder why Sir Walter Raleigh doesn’t receive the Columbus “treatment” when he actually showed up in what became America? Nevermind, I forgot. We’re talking about liberals.
83 Effeminem // Oct 9, 2007 at 5:08 pm
I don’t know what #79 is about, but it reminds me of one of my favorite quotes:
The greater and more complete thy knowledge, the more severely shalt thou be judged, unless thou hast lived holily. Therefore be not lifted up by any skill or knowledge that thou hast; but rather fear concerning the knowledge which is given to thee.
-Thomas a Kempis, Imitation of Christ
84 JamesonLewis3rd // Oct 9, 2007 at 5:14 pm
Many Earth Decades ago, as the Mother Ship hovered, I was jumping and leaping about in my crib. I eventually bounced out onto the plushly-carpeted deck at which time I rolled, laughing maniacally, out of an open hatch door.
After (what seemed like) an extended Free-Fall, I landed in the lap of an astonished Russian woman in a hospital named after a Civil War General in downtown Columbus.
I’ve never met Christopher, however.
85 Hawkeye // Oct 9, 2007 at 5:34 pm
boberin #68,
Murder, abortion, homosexuality, liberals in general, war, pedophile preists, torture, the list goes on and seems to get worse with each passing day.
And God is pleased with us because?????
We are the blessed????
We are the instrument of rightgeousness??
I must be missing something….
Are ALL Americans murderers, abortionists, homosexuals, liberals in general, pedophile priests, and torturers? If not, then you can’t paint the entire nation with such a broad brush. I think they call that stereotyping.
Is God pleased with those who sin? Absolutely not. Can God choose to use a less-than-perfect vessel. Absolutely. He does it every day.
Are we blessed? Yes.
Are we the instrument of His righteousness? Let me answer that question with a series of questions…
Are there people in the world who are free that would not be otherwise, save for American intervention? Do Americans give more or less than the rest of the world in foreign aid and charity each year? Have Americans invented anything which makes the world a better place? Have Americans developed any drugs or medical advancements which make the lives of people around the world healthier? Does America subsidize an international organization that permits world leaders to meet in NYC and discuss their disagreements in the hopes of finding peace? Does America endorse the freedoms of religion, speech, the press, etc.? Does America endorse free and open elections? Does America endorse human rights? What is America’s record on such issues as compared to other countries? You be the judge…
86 gafisher // Oct 9, 2007 at 5:49 pm
“Now I wonder about those sinners by proxy …”
(Re#76) — Libbey Gone, that’s part of the mystery of salvation. Jesus took the punishment of the saved and gave them a sort of “proxy righteousness,” but there’s no corresponding “proxy sin” and nobody on whom to blame it. Like a magnetic monopole, there’s no “yin and yang” to it: an infinity of ways to lose, but only one way to win.
87 everthink // Oct 9, 2007 at 6:44 pm
“For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.” II Corinthians 5:21 (KJV)
88 Hawkeye // Oct 9, 2007 at 7:49 pm
everthink #87,
Yes, we have been made righteous through Jesus Christ “who knew no sin”… and your point is?
89 Darthmeister // Oct 9, 2007 at 8:12 pm
I see bober is trying to use reason to understand despots. Nice try, no cigar.
The fact remains, Saddam had biological and chemical WMD whether he forgot about them or whatever you try to rationalize with respect to Saddam.
Neverthink, the Bible doesn’t say “all rulers”. The Bible makes distinctions between good rulers who cause fear in evildoers and bad rulers who cause fear in good people. The problem is you liberal/socialist/Democrat/collectivists/moral relativists are so morally confused you don’t know which is which.
As to the Republican hypocrites notice how Republican support evaporates for them. They get their just due and are run our of office. Republicans put principle and country before party, but not you leftist Demoncrappers.
As to Democrat liars, thieves, bribe takers, embezzlers, child molestors, phony soldiers who embellish their service record, incompetent first responders, and male prostitution ringleaders, you Democrats rationalize their behavior and re-elect them to office! It’s more a commentary on the immoral and often unethical blindness of Democratic/liberl voters than it is Republican/conservatives. Thanks for reminding us.
90 Ms RightWing, Ink // Oct 9, 2007 at 8:35 pm
JamesonLewis3rd
re:84
That’ll teach ya
91 everthink // Oct 9, 2007 at 8:39 pm
Hawkeye
Re: 86 “Proxy Sin”
Jesus Christ become Sin!
As “Sin” The father could not look upon him, hence: About the ninth hour Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eloi, Eloi,[a] lama sabachthani?”—which means, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” Matthew 27:46 (NIV)
92 everthink // Oct 9, 2007 at 8:40 pm
became
93 everthink // Oct 9, 2007 at 8:44 pm
Re:89
Between good rulers and Dumbyah? Right?
94 FaddishSarcasticName // Oct 9, 2007 at 8:46 pm
Everthink,
You do hide behind a pretentious facade and could defend yourself only in the same anonymity of which you accuse me. Your personal conduct however invalidates your arguement since you use the personal information you have garnered and use it to emotionally blackmail the innocents at this site. I speak with honor while you seem to be getting pleasure ridiculing a persons MS, an infirmity which you may well have yourself some day. You blaspheme and ridicule the religion of others. You would be denied as a Henning by your Mother. You sir are not acting as a gentleman.
95 Darthmeister // Oct 9, 2007 at 9:50 pm
everstink can’t handle the truth. He’s on the side of the aisle that knowingly re-elects criminals and reprobates. And he dares whine about the “hypocrisy” of Republicans who invariably get voted out of office by other Republicans and independent conservatives when their foibles are made public? Buwahahahahaha. What a liberal tool.
96 Darthmeister // Oct 9, 2007 at 9:56 pm
You be the judge.
That’s the problem with everstink, Hawkeye, he’s always in the state of kangaroo court. He’s the judge of all: judge of POTUS, judge of us Scrapplers, and judge of all traditional Christendom. But I’m confident one day he’ll get exactly what he so justly deserves. He’d better take some one million sunblock, though.
97 everthink // Oct 9, 2007 at 10:40 pm
FaddishSarcasticName
Bite me!
98 debass // Oct 9, 2007 at 11:27 pm
The 20 dumb guys may have been from Saudi Arabia. That does not mean that the SA gov. sponsored them. Do you have proof? Do you believe Timothy McVeigh was sponsored by the US gov.? He was from the US.
Let’s see if I have this correct? It doesn’t matter who actually sponsors terrorists (The Taliban, Saddam Hussein) but their country of birth is the sponsor? Therefore, since Arafat was born in Egypt, Israel should have gone after them for the Intifada. I think I get it.
99 everthink // Oct 9, 2007 at 11:52 pm
“As to Democrat (REPUBLICAN) liars, (Perjury-LIBBY) thieves (HALLIBURTON), bribe takers (JACK ABRAMOFF and RANDY “Duke” CUNNINHAM, embezzlers (TOM NOE, GOP Fundraiser-Ohio), child molesters (MARK FOLEY), phony soldiers (GEORGE “Dumbyah” BUSH) who embellish their service record, incompetent first responders (RUDY GIULIANI), and male prostitution ringleaders (JEFF GANNON-W.H. PRESS CORPS-plant), you (REPUBLICANS) Democrats rationalize their behavior and re-elect them to office!
100 FaddishSarcasticName // Oct 10, 2007 at 12:56 am
“Bite me”, how quaint
and the famous rubber-glue comeback on 99.
Oh how the mighty have fallen.
-SMYTHENESS-
101 Connecting News, Commentaries and Blogs at NineReports.com - // Oct 10, 2007 at 12:58 am
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102 JamesonLewis3rd // Oct 10, 2007 at 7:13 am
The more I learn about Comrade Soros, the more repugnant those who grovel and worship at his feet become.
103 onlineanalyst // Oct 10, 2007 at 7:37 am
Back on topic: Chief Thunderthud may have to apologize to an even more original settler in the Americas,
the Kennewick man, unless that inconvenient truth gets buried through political correctnesss.
104 Fred Sinclair // Oct 10, 2007 at 8:31 am
The mental retardation of the liberals remind me of a little story.
“But why did you bite me? The boy asked the rattlesnake, whose life he had just saved from being run over in the road. “I was helping you and saved your life.”
The snake smiled and replied, “True but you knew I was a snake, when you first picked me up. You can’t be mad at me, I was just being me, it’s my nature, tee-hee.”
The boy replied, “You’re right Mr. Snake, it was my mistake, it won’t happen again.” as he twisted the snake’s head off.
The defective gene pool that causes liberalism is an almost impossible disease to cure. The best course is to follow the boy’s example and put the diseased individual out of his misery. aka “Advancement with dignity”.
Since the powers that be hold a negative view on literally following the boy’s example - I just consider them invisible. Ignore them and carry Ann’ latest book (which really irks them to no end!)
I also wear my button which reads “I refuse to enter into a battle of wits with an unarmed person.”
Heirborn Ranger
105 Hawkeye // Oct 10, 2007 at 8:47 am
everthink #91,
I see now that you were responding to #86. Sorry, I didn’t pick up on that. And I’m not disagreeing with you. Yes, Jesus became sin, but let’s be clear: he did not remain sin…
“he was not abandoned to Hades, nor did his flesh see corruption. This Jesus God raised up, and of that we all are witnesses. Being therefore exalted at the right hand of God… God has made him both Lord and Christ.” -Acts 2:31-33,36
Just sayin’ is all…
106 conserve-a-tips // Oct 10, 2007 at 8:59 am
Fred, I’m going to send you a t-shirt that I found on the bargain table at Kohl’s a few weeks back (actually I bought it for my son to wear at work). In big letters it says CSI and underneath that it says, “Can’t Stand Idiots“.
107 Darthmeister // Oct 10, 2007 at 9:38 am
everstink, you still don’t get it. You morons RE-ELECT those kind of people to office on your side of the aisle. We turn them out to pasture.
I do take exception with the Scooter Libby example since it was pretty obvious he was politically railroaded.
P.S. I also take exception to you claiming Lt. George Bush “embellished” his service record. He never did any such thing, it’s only in the minds of hate-filled moonbats like you.
PSS. Also, Mark Foley wasn’t a “child molester”. Unlike Mel Reynolds and a few more child molesting Donks, Foley was only accused of writing salacious emails to eighteen and nineteen year old pages who, it turned out, were pranking him.
Get your facts straight, ya moonbat twit.
108 Darthmeister // Oct 10, 2007 at 9:52 am
How Democrats Treat Their Child Molesters.
109 everthink // Oct 10, 2007 at 10:01 am
“Mental retardation of the liberals”, Moron! Moron! Pleease! Don’t you know I have feelings too? Let’s not make fun of the handicaps, and limitations of others!
Bush/Cheney 04!
Now , let me point out that in six years Lt. Bush never made Captain!
That fact alone says it all about the military service of Dumbyah, and the substance of Rather’s charges!
The Air Force couldn’t see him as more than an O-2, but you pipeline beemers made him CNC of the entire military.
ET
110 Ms RightWing, Ink // Oct 10, 2007 at 10:13 am
I thought every American had the right to fulfill the dream of growing up and becoming the president of these United States. Even governors of, gulp, Arkansas.
Somehow, liberals fail to see that. George Bush, has/had and always will have the right to be what this country elected him to be-president.
So ends basic Third Grade Civics lesson for today.
111 everthink // Oct 10, 2007 at 10:35 am
Beamers
112 Ms RightWing, Ink // Oct 10, 2007 at 10:47 am
push or was it lost
113 Ms RightWing, Ink // Oct 10, 2007 at 10:47 am
lost
114 JamesonLewis3rd // Oct 10, 2007 at 11:01 am
wot!?!
115 Ms RightWing, Ink // Oct 10, 2007 at 11:23 am
JamesonLewis3rd
I was looking for my lost post that was extracted from cyberspace after I mistakenly pushed backspace again. sigh
116 RedPepper // Oct 10, 2007 at 12:06 pm
Man oh man! Peace & Love! Ain’t it grand?
“Harmony and understanding
Sympathy and trust abounding
No more falsehoods or derisions
Golden living dreams of visions
Mystic crystal revelation
And the mind’s true liberation
Aquarius! Aquarius!
Aquarius!”
117 Darthmeister // Oct 10, 2007 at 2:48 pm
Redpepper,
Ya nailed it dude. You see, “enlightened” liberal moonbats proclaim themselves to be so tolerant, cooperative, understanding, and open-minded, all in the interest “peace” … that is until someone dares think differently than these elitist twits do!
The vast majority of “progressives” are little more than a bunch of hypocritical vipers living in their echo chambers of hate rubbing their greedy little hands waiting to impose their Robin Hood socialism on the rest of us since we dared get a real life and have become successful without the aid of their past liberal collectivism. They’re a bunch of powergrabbing punks who think nothing of lying their way into power by disguising their radical socialist agenda from those Americans not paying enough attention to what is really happening.
Already sHrillary’s Social Radicalism Is Starting to Show Through. But like a bunch of brain-dead lemmings doing backstrokes in their sea of kool-aid, Donk voters are already starting the line up behind her … and some clueless independents, too!
118 Darthmeister // Oct 10, 2007 at 2:50 pm
… abracadabra!
119 RedPepper // Oct 10, 2007 at 3:26 pm
Darthmeister: “ … disguising their radical socialist agenda … ”? Ever see the 1997 film, Men In Black?
Elle : Hey, Jay! Zed called. The high consulate from Solaxiant 9 wants floor seats for the next Bulls game.
Jay : All right, let’s put in a call to Dennis Rodman. He’s from that planet.
Elle : Rodman? You’re kidding.
Jay : Nope.
Elle : Not much of a disguise …
120 woodnwheel // Oct 10, 2007 at 3:31 pm
Two more thoughts (as I said @ #70, it’s kind of a pattern with me:
1) Darthmeister: I’m thinking of adding #96 to my Facebook quotes
2) From #104: “The defective gene pool that causes liberalism is an almost impossible disease to cure. The best course is to follow the boy’s example and put the diseased individual out of his misery. aka ‘Advancement with dignity’.”
Ordinarily I would be opposed to euthanasia, but in this case I’m with Fred (pun not intended).
121 everthink // Oct 10, 2007 at 3:38 pm
“You see, “enlightened” liberal moonbats proclaim themselves to be so tolerant, cooperative, understanding, and open-minded, all in the interest “peace” … that is until someone dares think differently than these elitist twits do!”
Check your specs on that strawman, goofus!
122 Shelly // Oct 10, 2007 at 3:38 pm
RE: 109, could the reason the Air Force didn’t promote GWB be that he didn’t serve in the Air Force? Just a thought.
Remember, he wasn’t embellishing his career around the same time that Clinton wasn’t inhaling.
123 everthink // Oct 10, 2007 at 3:40 pm
TANG
124 woodnwheel // Oct 10, 2007 at 3:54 pm
“RE: 109, could the reason the Air Force didn’t promote GWB be that he didn’t serve in the Air Force? Just a thought.”
You (and everthink — credit where due) are correct, he served in the Texas Air National Guard.
125 woodnwheel // Oct 10, 2007 at 3:57 pm
BTW, the credit for #123 was for correcting yourself, everthink — you still got it wrong in #109
126 everthink // Oct 10, 2007 at 4:45 pm
Dumbyah,
Must have been the only officer below Lieutenant Colonel in the “Champaign Squadron”, and likely the only Lieutenant in all of the TANG with more than 36 months in service. And the TANG sure ain’t the USAF.
127 conserve-a-tips // Oct 10, 2007 at 9:17 pm
Neverthink: I’m confused…of course your logic always confuses me because it is sooooo confusing, but I thought - and please correct me if I have just totally misunderstood recent events - but I thought - and realize that I got this off of C-Span so it could be that I was just imagining things - but I thought that you liberals were incensed at anyone denigrating our men in uniform because “Although Americans of goodwill debate the merits of this war, we can all agree that those who serve with such great courage deserve our deepest respect and gratitude. That is why Rush Limbaugh’s recent characterization of troops who oppose the war as “phony soldiers” is such an outrage.” (Harry Reid’s letter to Clear Channel)
I’m thinking, Neverthink, that you are not towing the line since you are not offering this former man-in-uniform and now Commander-in_Chief a proper respect and perhaps we should send you Senator Reid’s words, “We call on you to publicly repudiate these comments that call into question their service and sacrifice .”
Oh, and don’t give me a “well, he didn’t serve with great courage,” because, according to Reid, serving in any capacity takes great courage, period.
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