(2007-08-09) — Paleontologists today said “dishonest fossils” misled them for years into thinking that humans evolved from one ape-like species to another, in a straight line, up to the today’s Homo sapiens — modern humans.
The accusation comes following the publication, in the journal Nature, of a new study of fossils found in a lake basin in Kenya in 2000 which seem to demonstrate that Homo habilis didn’t evolve into Homo erectus as experts believed for decades, but that the two species lived in the same east African region without interbreeding for about a half-million years.
In a document levying charges against the deceptive relics, the unnamed paleontologists also said that previous Homo erectus fossil fragments “willfully distorted our view of the evolution of our own kind.” The new H. erectus skull seems to indicate a wide range of size difference in adult members of the species — similar to the contrast between a male silverback gorilla and the smaller females in his harem — not like the relatively small difference in skull size between modern human males and females.
“Sadly, we have another integrity scandal in the scientific community,” the anonymous paleontologists said. “But this time, it’s not the living scientists who lie, but rather the dead specimens. If you can’t trust the fossils, who can you trust?”
Although the scientists seek compensatory damages from the fossils for years of misguided research, they unanimously agreed that the new discovery does not cast doubt on the theory of evolution by unguided natural selection, since “the wall of separation between science and faith can never be breached, and conflicting or contradictory evidence cannot shake our deeply held convictions.”
101 responses so far ↓
1 JamesonLewis3rd // Aug 9, 2007 at 8:07 am
God Bless America
2 JamesonLewis3rd // Aug 9, 2007 at 8:11 am
Bring on the “fossil” jokes but don’t include me, please.
3 gafisher // Aug 9, 2007 at 8:14 am
Facts have always been a problem for evolutionists.
4 gafisher // Aug 9, 2007 at 8:18 am
Only jokes about lying fossils would be appropriate under this article, JL3.
“Three Democrat Senators walked into a bar …”
5 boberinyetagain // Aug 9, 2007 at 8:29 am
Speaking of fossils, I’m a 52 y/o one myself as of today…
Not to worry, those fossils are some eons old and everyone knows the earth is only 6000 y/o so…those “fossils” were obviously planted by aliens anyway…
DUH!
6 MargeinMI // Aug 9, 2007 at 8:38 am
“Although the scientists seek compensatory damages from the fossils…”
From what I’ve heard, you can’t squeeze blood from a stone. Or money either, for that matter.
YAY! New thread!
7 MargeinMI // Aug 9, 2007 at 8:42 am
Happy Birthday, Bob!
8 Who Can You Trust? // Aug 9, 2007 at 8:50 am
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9 conserve-a-tips // Aug 9, 2007 at 9:52 am
Ms Rightwing, Ink ~ *giggle*
its-just-me ~ it ain't science of which they need be afraid. It's them danged scientists what comes to all them stupid conclusions.
10 conserve-a-tips // Aug 9, 2007 at 8:54 am
Happy Birthday Boberin, you ol’ relic, you.
I have a big box of fossils in my garage. Have they been “lying” there all along? Speaking of which, Scott, the scientists should be holding carbon accountable too, since it has been dating those fossils and evidently lied about their relationship.
Next: On “As The Worm Turns”: Will the fossils compare notes and find that Carbon has been dating all of them? Will they confront Carbon or will they blame the evolutionists who encouraged him to date around? Will environmentalists decry this Carbon-based-fued? Watch next week, on “As The Worm Turns.”
11 Fred Sinclair // Aug 9, 2007 at 9:48 am
I personally believe that God created humans He also created animals and He sees a serious distinction between animals and humans. In the book of Genesis it is recorded that He (God) sewed garments of skins for Adam and Eve. He didn’t make clothes out of human skins to cover animals.
That evolution idea was successfully debunked by my mother many many years ago. The fundamental idea was that development was governed by need and if there was any validity to the evolution theory, then at a minimum, all women, when they became pregnant would automatically begin growing a third or a third and fourth arm.
Additional proof that humans did not evolve from lower life forms is the fact that the human male is the only male on the planet that does not have a bone in his reproductive organ.
Heirborn Ranger
12 boberinyetagain // Aug 9, 2007 at 10:13 am
Thanks Margie and c-a-t
This is the first August 9th that I’ve worked in 20 years (job switch/no vacation yet) but the rumor has it that they might spring me early!
13 Fred Sinclair // Aug 9, 2007 at 10:56 am
boberinyetagain - Wish you well on your b/d. 52? Well, young fellow, would that I could roll back the clock 18 yrs and be a young fellow of only 52 again.
I believe I’ve learned more in the past 18 than I did in the first 52.
The stroke in 2000 God used to bring me, like the prodigal son, back to Him from a “far land”. For that I give thanks.
Also I’d never heard of Rush Limbaugh - let alone know that he runs America (with talent “on loan from God”).
My wish for you on your b/d is that you continue to grow and learn. You ain’t there yet and neither am I. I’ve still got 30 years to go to make it onto a Smuckers jar.
Heirborn Ranger
14 boberinyetagain // Aug 9, 2007 at 11:09 am
Thanks Fred and, i agree.
What I’ve learned over and over as I’ve gotten older is that i have little or no clue as to what’s happening.
I know that I don’t know and that’s probably the only thing one can ever “know” eh?
15 kurtlee // Aug 9, 2007 at 11:16 am
re: #6.
i’ve seen an article that shows blood cells in a dinosaur bone. here
while bone lasts for quite a while, red blood cells don’t.
wonder how this will be scientifically explained?
16 Shelly // Aug 9, 2007 at 12:07 pm
For once I fear I may have to disagree with our treasured Mr. Ott. If mistakes have been made in the study of evolution we all know it is not the fault of the fossils. This is Bush’s fault.
17 beekabok2 // Aug 9, 2007 at 12:12 pm
Conjecture, speculation, hypothesising, theorising. Where is the science?
Two Blond Homo Habilis were walking next to a lake. One of them leans over and looks into the water at her reflection. “That Homo Habilis looks familiar” she says. The other Homo Habilis says “let me take a look” and pushes the 1st Homo Habilis out of the way. She looks in the lake and says “no wonder she looks familiar, that’s me”.
18 da Bunny // Aug 9, 2007 at 12:14 pm
“If you can’t trust the fossils, who can you trust?â€
Another illusion destroyed. I can’t go on…
Happy birthday, boberin!
19 JamesonLewis3rd // Aug 9, 2007 at 12:32 pm
RE: #14~~
Anonymous~~
It’s quite obvious I should think: Dinosaurs still roam the planet.
20 JamesonLewis3rd // Aug 9, 2007 at 12:37 pm
Why, I had some free-range dino just the other day over to the caf’teerya.
‘Twer’n't fossilized, neither.
21 JamesonLewis3rd // Aug 9, 2007 at 12:49 pm
I hereby denounce the concept that there is a “wall of separation between science and faith” that “can never be breached.”
I breach it daily.
So, there.
22 gafisher // Aug 9, 2007 at 1:34 pm
The object of both science and faith has always been to find truth. The only “wall of separation” is one erected from that which is not truth.
23 Ms RightWing, Ink // Aug 9, 2007 at 1:45 pm
YOUR CHEATIN’ BONES
taken from Hank Williams, “Your Cheatin Heart”
Your lyin’ bones will make you a creep;
You’ll try and try but get in deep,
Men didn’t come from monkeys you silly fool
Your lyin’ bones will turn on you.
When fools believe stuff that’s truly insane,
You’ll keep on lyin’ and call it scientific gain.
You’ll try an’ prove more the way you do —
Your lyin’ bones will make you a fool
Your cheatin’ skull will squeal some day;
That cave you found, threw you astray;
The proof will come that’ll make you the fool —
Your lying skull will make a monkey of you.
When DNA comes from a monkey’s brain,
You’ll toss around and a few extra claims .
You’ll soon be caught as being a lyin’ fool —
Cuz your lyin’ bones done told on you.
Sorry Hank Williams, I couldn’t help it
24 its-just-me // Aug 9, 2007 at 1:46 pm
gafisher -
I agree.
I’ve known too many Christians who seem to be afraid of science.
It’s unfortunate, but understandable, I guess, when you look at the motives behind bad (or at least unbiased) science.
25 its-just-me // Aug 9, 2007 at 1:57 pm
True, c-a-t. But I’ve known quite a few people who don’t even want to hear about science, or are at least extremely skeptical. Others I’ve known don’t want money spent on scientific exploration in to space, or whatever…
To me, it seems like a lack of faith on their part - like they’re afraid of being proven wrong.
After all, “The heavens declare the glory of God.” Further scientific discovery, as long as it’s good science, and not some nut on an anti-God mission (which is what I think you’re talking about) can only point to the existence of the Creator.
26 Maggie // Aug 9, 2007 at 1:57 pm
Happy Birthday Boberin….I understand that the bakery printed “stop….drop…. and roll on your birthday cake.
I wonder if these Homohillbilly fellers ever used GEICO?
BTW..it is 103 degrees here in NC. We are sweating like a one legged man in a chainsaw factory.
27 Fred Sinclair // Aug 9, 2007 at 2:01 pm
I’m missing it somewhere - just now on NBC news was a tidbit about a court that found unconstitutional a matter involving three churches and some money, on the grounds that it violated the constitution’s provision fot the separation of church and state.
Now, I’ve got a copy of our Constitution right here on my desk and I can’t find it. Anybody that can help? Where is it ? Or is this like the Federal money that went to help folks in New Orleans. I’m still unable to find Constitutional authority for that disbursment of Federal funds.
Heirborn Ranger
28 camojack // Aug 9, 2007 at 2:23 pm
♪ You say you want an evolution, well, we all want to change the world… ♪
But seriously, I don’t have any philosophical problem with the concept; let’s just call it Intelligent Design.
I like the one about the ape in the zoo reading Darwin’s work and the Bible, trying to determine if he’s his keeper’s brother or his brother’s keeper…speaking of which, HAPPY BIRTHDAY to boberin.
That’s all for now…
29 Shelly // Aug 9, 2007 at 3:32 pm
Maggie, its 104 where I am, with the heat index over 110. This is not setting a record however, as temps of 105 were recorded on this date sometime in the 1950’s and 1980’s. My poor sons have to practice out in this. When I pick them up I give them each a big, cold bottle of water and a wet towel.
Good question about GEICO, too.
Excellent lyrics Ms. RW! And Happy B-day Bob!
30 Ms RightWing, Ink // Aug 9, 2007 at 3:41 pm
Bad storms here in NE Ohio with a tornado warning in effect. Ugly storms earlier so we have flash flood warnings out. We may see 100 mph winds if not, like I say, tornadoes.
sigh, I’m to jittery to make bread.
31 Maggie // Aug 9, 2007 at 3:48 pm
Ms Righty…..re #30
If you will bake it, we will come.
Thanks for the new thread Scott.I was burned out on the other one……. :>)
32 Maggie // Aug 9, 2007 at 4:13 pm
Shelly,
Thanks for the cudos…:>)
33 conserve-a-tips // Aug 9, 2007 at 4:29 pm
Maggie, I don’t know why you were burned out. You were smokin’!!
It’s only 100 in the shade here. Y’all come see us. We’ll play a round with Tiger.
34 Ms RightWing, Ink // Aug 9, 2007 at 4:35 pm
phew, what a storm that just blew through here. Tornadoes to the west of me and to the east of me (no joke). Likely the tornado cloud past over us.
It got as dark as midnight for a bit and from the 7th floor I could see the storm coming, but the batteries died on camera just as I tried to get the green skies.
A little lightning but we are clearing up
35 Ms RightWing, Ink // Aug 9, 2007 at 4:36 pm
did the storm eat my post?
36 Fred Sinclair // Aug 9, 2007 at 7:09 pm
Hi! I ran across this little ditty in Washington D. C. in 1960. I memorized it at the time and then forgot half of it, found it with a google search, so thought I’d share it just for the fun of it. Easily one of my all time favorites.
Three Monkeys.
Three monkeys sat in a coconut tree, discussing things as they’re said to be.
Said one to the others, “Now listen, you two, There’s a certain rumour that can’t be true.
That man descends from our noble race; the very idea is a shocking disgrace.
No monkey ever deserted his wife, or starved her babies, and ruined her life,
and you’ve never known a mother monk, to leave her babies with others to bunk,
or pass them on, from one to another, till they scarcely know, who is their mother.
“Here’s another thing a monk won’t do, go out at night and get in a stew;
Or use a gun or club or knife, to take some other monkey’s life.
Â
“And another thing you’ll never see, a monkey build a fence ’round a coconut tree
and let the coconuts go to waste, forbidding all other monks a taste.
Why if I put a fence around this tree, starvation would force you to steal from me.
Yes, man descended, the ornery cuss,
“but brother he didn’t descend from usâ€
Heirborn Ranger
37 Fred Sinclair // Aug 9, 2007 at 7:12 pm
GOOGLE THE FIRST LINE - UNDER SOMG AND WORDS THEY PLAY IT OFF OF ORIGINAL MOVIE SOUNDTRACK. - WAXLESS FRED
Used in: Song of the South
Music: Allie Wrubel
Lyrics: Ray Gilbert
Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay,
My, oh, my, what a wonderful day.
Plenty of sunshine headin’ my way,
Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay!
Mister Bluebird’s on my shoulder,
It’s the truth, it’s “actch’ll”
Everything is “satisfactch’ll.”
Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay,
Wonderful feeling, wonderful day!
Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay,
My, oh, my, what a wonderful day.
Plenty of sunshine headin’ my way,
Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay!
Mister Bluebird’s on my shoulder,
It’s the truth, it’s “actch’ll”
Everything is “satisfactch’ll.”
Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay,
Wonderful feeling, feeling this way!
Mister Bluebird’s on my shoulder,
It’s the truth, it’s “actch’ll”
Everything is “satisfactch’ll.”
Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay,
Wonderful feeling, wonderful day!
Heirborn Ranger
38 JamesonLewis3rd // Aug 9, 2007 at 7:44 pm
Oo-Oo-Oo-Ah-Ah-Ah-Ah
39 JamesonLewis3rd // Aug 9, 2007 at 8:46 pm
Fossil Empathy is a good thing.
Chuck Norris, a fossil himself, is the one who buried all the other fossils (they haven’t even found 0.01% yet); it took him, like, a week. He was so fast, nobody noticed. There weren’t many people around back in the day, though. Chuck Norris is Adam and Eve’s other kid and, as a tot, he liked to bury stuff, especially those big, ugly, stinky, thick-skinned things (after he slapped them around a little bit).
40 The Great Santini // Aug 9, 2007 at 8:58 pm
My knowledge of paleontology is limited. I thought Slick Willie was homo erectus. My bad.
41 conserve-a-tips // Aug 9, 2007 at 9:00 pm
James, he’s one of those Oklahoma fossils that got dug up. Museum quality, that one.
Ms Rightwing, Ink: I am certainly glad that you weathered the mighty wind. Kudos from the southern tip of tornado alley.
42 Maggie // Aug 9, 2007 at 9:51 pm
Santini…….Wahahahahahahahahahahahaha
43 Hawkeye // Aug 10, 2007 at 7:09 am
Boberin,
Belated Happy Birthday! Sorry I missed it yesterday. Hope it was a good ‘un.
(:D) Regards…
44 Hawkeye // Aug 10, 2007 at 7:15 am
“conflicting or contradictory evidence cannot shake our deeply held convictions…”
Are we talking about evolution, global warming, the war in Iraq, or the need for more taxation? Seems this statement would apply to all…
Regards…
45 Darthmeister // Aug 10, 2007 at 7:23 am
Dishonest fossils blamed for wrong view of Evolution? … Well, I’ll be a monkey’s uncle!
I bet the Geico neanderthals are really confused now.
46 Darthmeister // Aug 10, 2007 at 7:42 am
… I also love it when scientists “discover” yet another living fossil.
Ya see, macro-evolution is all about an organism changing or transitioning into another completely novel form of life in order to survive through an almost infinite number of smaller adaptations to the everchanging climate of earth and other “evolutionary pressures” such as competition from other species or being “hunted out”. I would be the first to say adaption, euphemistically known as “micro-evolution” does occur to adapt species to smaller climitological and niche changes, but “micro-evolution” doesn’t equal “macro-evolution.”
Now when that organism evolves one presumes within short order the original version of the organism has to become extinct because it can no longer thrive under the new environmental conditions which pressured it to evolve upward in the first place.
But then what do you know, we find organisms today that, though they may be smaller, haven’t changed one whit over tens of millions of years from their ancient progenitors. We’re not just talking tens of thousands or even a few hundred thousand years, this is TEN MILLION YEARS! Now how in the world can a family of organisms in an everchanging evolutionary world not evolve in those TEN MILLION years, yet live side by side with its supposed superior evolutionary offspring surviving supposed “evolutionary pressures” quite happily in its original form? Bah!
Where’s Sherlock Holmes when ya need him?
47 Darthmeister // Aug 10, 2007 at 7:42 am
… push.
48 Ms RightWing, Ink // Aug 10, 2007 at 8:15 am
Boberin,
Nothing great like extending a Birthday as long as you can, especially from those with poor memories. Happy Birthday
49 Darthmeister // Aug 10, 2007 at 9:30 am
Dishonest fossils lied and species died! Impeach paleontologists!
50 Darthmeister // Aug 10, 2007 at 9:36 am
Rep. Jack Murtha (D-Moon) is the Marine guilty in “Haditha scandal”.
When will he apologize for his character assassination of innocent Marines fighting an enemy who use their own religious brethren for human shields? [crickets chirping] Hey, about it liberal media, when are you going to ask Murtha if he is going to apologize or not for his rush to judgment?
51 Darthmeister // Aug 10, 2007 at 9:36 am
Hmmmm, the link didn’t take. Here it is.
52 Darthmeister // Aug 10, 2007 at 10:07 am
It looks like the Theory of Evolution is also self-evolving. It’s so broad and general it can’t possibly be falsifiable under the scientific method. A philosophical excuse can be made every time an apparent contradiction or theoretical conundrum arises, just like the theory of global warming. Now “scientists” are claiming natural forces are offsetting global warming. Whaaaaa? It’s an admission that the last two years haven’t trended the way the (obviously flawed) global warming model predicts. But don’t worry folks, in two years August will be hotter than Hades because of man-made global warming.
53 Just Ranting // Aug 10, 2007 at 10:48 am
My guess is this report is not going over well with Mike Wallace and the guys at 60 minutes. I haven’t trusted those lying fossils for years.
54 boberinyetagain // Aug 10, 2007 at 11:09 am
Thanks all for the kind wishes!
Capped off the day with the 3 Stooges on the big screen at our local theater surrounded by kids and grandkids. Doesn’t get much better
55 boberinyetagain // Aug 10, 2007 at 11:58 am
Hank, I’m shocked that you are bandying numbers like 10 million with regards to the age of the planet.
Shocked and dismayed!!!
56 boberinyetagain // Aug 10, 2007 at 11:59 am
bandying “about” those #s
57 da Bunny // Aug 10, 2007 at 12:01 pm
Santini, #40…very funny.
Did you get my email, btw?
58 JamesonLewis3rd // Aug 10, 2007 at 12:04 pm
Darthmeister did not make nor did he “bandy about” any such claim.
59 boberinyetagain // Aug 10, 2007 at 12:10 pm
In comment 46 I could swear he’s referring to organisms 10 million years old. Then again, old age/failing eyesight/a pinch of dimentia could be affecting my perception…
60 gafisher // Aug 10, 2007 at 1:06 pm
I’d have to vote with Birthday Bober on this one; after the Virgin Birth and the Resurrection, a young Earth isn’t much of a jump at all. My God can handle it.
I suspect my brother Darth may have been pointing out the inconsistencies of evolutionism even from its own assumptions.
61 conserve-a-tips // Aug 10, 2007 at 1:08 pm
Darthmeister re #52: Or, if not in 2 years, in 4 years…ummm…6 years….ummm….10 yrs? We’ll hit it right in there somewhere.
This proves that Global Warming is a religion. Global Warmists’ end of the world predictions are like the Jehovah’s Witnesses predicting that in 1914, 1918, 1925, 1975, and 1989 the end of the world would come. Both can keep predicting and one of these days, they’ll be right, but the Global Warmists are gonna find out that cars will have absolutely nothing to do with it!!! That’s when they’ll really wish they had religion.
62 tomg // Aug 10, 2007 at 1:15 pm
10 Million years from now…..
Michelle Malkin and that Pelosi creature existed at the same time?
63 Ms RightWing, Ink // Aug 10, 2007 at 1:33 pm
With 183 apartments about and around the bunker stacked onto 13 floors I can assure you there are many old fossils in this building.
Speaking of which, I watched a movie I recorded on Fox Movie Channel called DAD. Oh what a tear jerker that was and two hours of it. If you ever get a chance to watch it, do so but take a handkerchief to the recliner with you.
The cast consist of Jack Lemmon,Ted Danson, Olympia Dukakis, Kathy Baker, Kevin Spacey, so you have to forget you are watching a pile of liberals, though I will remove Jack Lemmon from that comment
Tagline: Sometimes the greatest man you ever meet… is the first one
64 Ms RightWing, Ink // Aug 10, 2007 at 1:36 pm
conserve-a-tips
Do you think Algore may be a door knocking Jehovah Witness. Besides, just did Jehovah witness? Probably everything
65 conserve-a-tips // Aug 10, 2007 at 1:49 pm
Ms Rightwing, Ink: I believe that he has created his own group called the “Warming Witnesses”…a feat achieved after his invention of the internet. Of course, I don’t understand how he can set himself up as a prophet for this religion, as I am sure that it is a 501C - or - (are you ready?) a nonprophet organization. Tha-thump.
66 boberinyetagain // Aug 10, 2007 at 2:27 pm
c-a-t….groan…
67 conserve-a-tips // Aug 10, 2007 at 3:01 pm
Boberin, I knew that with your birthday being yesterday, now you are all “groan” up and could handle my Algore levity. :laugh:
68 conserve-a-tips // Aug 10, 2007 at 3:02 pm
phooey. That would be
69 tomg // Aug 10, 2007 at 3:40 pm
#65 c-a-t
Well done
70 Fred Sinclair // Aug 10, 2007 at 4:33 pm
Just in from my St. Pete cop (ret.) buddy:
European Heighten Threat Levels
The English are feeling the pinch in relation to recent terrorist
threats and have raised their security level from “Miffed” to
“Peeved”. Soon, though, security levels may be raised yet again to
“Irritated” or even “A Bit Cross”. Londoners have not been “A Bit
Cross” since the blitz began in 1940 and tea supplies all but ran
out. Terrorists have been re-categorized from “Tiresome” to “A Bloody
Nuisance”. The last time the British issued “A Bloody Nuisance”
warning level was during the great fire of 1666.
Also, the French government announced yesterday that it has raised
its terror alert level from “Run” to “Hide”. The only two higher
levels in France are “Collaborate” and “Surrender.” The rise was
precipitated by a recent fire that destroyed France’s white flag
factory, effectively paralyzing the country’s military capability.
It’s not only the English and French who are on a heightened level of
alert. Italy has increased the alert level from “Shout loudly and
excitedly” to “Elaborate Military Posturing.” Two more levels remain:
“Ineffective Combat Operations” and “Change Sides.”
The Germans also increased their alert state from “Disdainful
Arrogance” to “Dress in Uniform and Sing Marching Songs.” They also
have two higher levels: “Invade a Neighbor” and “Lose”.
Belgians, on the other hand, are all on holiday as usual, and the
only threat they are worried about is NATO pulling out of Brussels.
The Spanish are all excited to see their new submarines ready to
deploy. These beautifully designed subs have glass bottoms so the new
Spanish navy can get a really good look at the old Spanish navy.
Heirborn Ranger
71 boberinyetagain // Aug 10, 2007 at 4:39 pm
Very Funny Fred!
A good weekend to all!
72 Darthmeister // Aug 10, 2007 at 6:05 pm
bober, you misunderstand my reference to “ten million years.” Give what paleontolgists are saying, many living fossils represent a hundreds of millions of years of almost miraculous stability, not merely ten millions years. I was merely being conservative in my statement.
Obviously geologists and cosmologists have been saying the planet Earth is between four to six billions years old - but what’s a couple of billion years one way or the other, right? Present theory has the Cambrian Explosion - where life appeared suddenly and in spectacular diveristy - allegedly happening 600 million years ago and lasting 50 millions years. Does anyone have a true sense of what even a million years represent? Most cognitive experts generally agree that the vast majority of people can only truly grasp the number 100,000 since that represents the number of people that they can actually see in a stadium. So numbers like 600 million or the universe allegedly being 20 billion years old are simply ciphers that evolutionists throw out to impress the masses.
Remember, just a century ago “expert scientists” believed the universe was 2.5 billion years old. Then it was 3 billion, then 4 billion, then 6 billion, then 8 billion and now “experts” say the universe is between 11.2 to 20 BILLION YEARS OLD! Clearly it’s all best guestimate which in my world isn’t science at all. So what’s a few ten million years here or there, right?
73 JamesonLewis3rd // Aug 10, 2007 at 6:44 pm
I am forced to assume that some of the most recent comments are part of an ongoing conversation in which I have not been a participant. I’m guessing it is, basically, “religion” versus “science”?
74 JamesonLewis3rd // Aug 10, 2007 at 6:56 pm
I’m not related to this guy but he’s one of my favorite writers over to the American Thinker Blog.
75 Darthmeister // Aug 10, 2007 at 7:16 pm
In comment 46 I could swear he’s referring to organisms 10 million years old…
It’s clear enough to those with ears to hear and eyes to see, bober. I was referring to species that are purported to have survived to this day absolutely unchanged over a span of tens if not hundreds of millions of years! Yet the fossil record is replete with similarly robust species that were contemporaneous to those living fossils and yet they mysteriously become extinct during the same span of time. And some of these living fossil species are supposed to have given rise to novel lines of superior variations yet the older specie form apparently continues existing unchanged for hundreds of millions years?
I’m not buying it because man is probably the most adaptable creature and if there is such a thing as living fossils then there should be Neanderthals, Cro-Magnon, Homo Erectus and any number of alleged hominids living in their respective ecological niches as “living fossils” today. Which all goes to prove that one specie doesn’t give rise to another since when niche competition and climatologic change puts too much pressure upon a specie, it becomes extinct, it doesn’t evolve into novel lifeforms. The fossil record testifies to an incredible diversity of lifeforms that have become extinct along the way and what we see today is what’s left. The fossil record doesn’t testify to an almost infinite number of evolutionary steps which lead back to the original synethesis of life.
Now I’ve been accused of being a Neanderthal so maybe there are living hominid fossils after all and I’m living proof, but the science is clear, in Earth’s past climate changes has been far more radical than what humankind has witnessed in recorded history! So why is it claimed some species evolve to adapt to climatogical pressures within a relatively short geological time period while a neighboring specie hasn’t evolved at all during those same radical climate changes over the last 100 million years? I have some waterfront property I’ll sell ya … .
Also, the fact still remains, of all the billions upon billions of transitional lifeforms that are purported to have had to occur among the millions of extinct species of flora or fauna, there is not a single unbroken chain (or anything approaching an unbroken chain of evolving lifeforms) of transitional sequencing found in the fossil record other than the often very unscientific connect-the-dot variety which later proves wrong? The dirty little secret is though there is doubt within the scientific community about some of their more dubious claims of transitional sequencing held by modern evolutionary thought, ideological evolutionists will invariably circle the wagons and start denigrating creationists and IDers who merely cite the more honest evolutionists’ who have serious doubts about the alleged evolutionary transitional sequences since they clearly see “regular absence of transitional forms” in the fossil record. Check out all 15 argument links.
Once again, bober, I could easily become a theistic evolutionist (God is behind it all) if I thought the evidence for evolution was compelling, but it simply isn’t the case except to the true believers in evolution.
76 JamesonLewis3rd // Aug 10, 2007 at 7:24 pm
stop my brain hurts too many syllables a tsunami of syllables help
77 JamesonLewis3rd // Aug 10, 2007 at 7:30 pm
To the Humans-Evolved-From-Apes-ists (-ites? -ians?):
You’ll never prove it in a million years…..
or billion…..
or even a trillion eons…..
78 The Great Santini // Aug 10, 2007 at 8:32 pm
da Bunny (# 57)-
Yup, I gotchur e-mail, and thanks. Reply coming. When you receive it, you’ll understand reasons for delay.
I’m gonna send some saltpeter to homo erectus, before Shrillary Skil-Sawâ„¢s him. Heh.
79 da Bunny // Aug 10, 2007 at 9:05 pm
Santini…would saltpeter or a “Skil-Saw” be necessary? I’m sure just the sound of Shril’s screeching is enough to accomplish the same result!!
Looking forward to said email reply…
80 JamesonLewis3rd // Aug 10, 2007 at 10:00 pm
Ah, the Greatest Solo Zither Jam in the history of mankind; the Gold-Standard of Musical Artistry-Anton Karas, The Third Man (1949).
81 Ms RightWing, Ink // Aug 10, 2007 at 10:09 pm
Did someone say Cialis
82 The Great Santini // Aug 10, 2007 at 10:35 pm
JL3d (# 80)
That’s a big 10-4 on Karas’s star turn on the zither for “The Third Man”. I drop everything and watch the movie (again) whenever it’s featured on TCM, to listen to the music and to take in the performances of the star-studded cast.
The Oscarâ„¢-winning theme music is spell-binding, and his background zither music adds spice to every scene.
Good call.
83 conserve-a-tips // Aug 10, 2007 at 11:19 pm
Oh Ms Rightwing, Ink, you and Santini are just bad. Between his Homo Erectus comments and your pharmaceutical mindset, one would wonder what y’all do for light reading!
Just call me perky.
84 Harry Daschle // Aug 11, 2007 at 1:11 am
So just how did Rove and Bush pull off this ruse?
I just wanted to beat Congress to the accusation!
85 Ms RightWing, Ink // Aug 11, 2007 at 7:05 am
conserve-a-tips
You perky little stinker you. I was just listening to talk radio where they advertise that nonsense, and I thought my computer, or someone, said Cialis.I wonder if they see a target audience with talk radio people, Hmmm.
Packed and ready to roll to Cincinnati-see everyone Sunday evening
86 JamesonLewis3rd // Aug 11, 2007 at 10:48 am
Well, it looks like everybody here at ScrappleFace USA is avoiding me again.
That's okay. I'll survive. [sniffle.....sob]
Here's something I just read that has an ambiance reminiscent of "I'm-just-along-for-the-ride".
87 JamesonLewis3rd // Aug 11, 2007 at 3:01 pm
Chuckle-inducing:
TNR is still standing by Beauchump in the name of the editors’ journalistic integrity.
88 EXT // Aug 11, 2007 at 3:33 pm
“Journalistic integrity”.
Wasn’t that outlawed as criminally oxymoronic during Reagan’s first term?
89 Rogue100 // Aug 11, 2007 at 5:32 pm
Here’s a post about some living fossils and their antiquated intellectual capacity Sometimes Evolution Fails to Extinguish Flawed Species
90 Fred Sinclair // Aug 11, 2007 at 11:58 pm
Conservative Christians vs Liberals Yes I realize that there are some conservatives who are not Christians (due in the main to the fact that they are uncommonly intelligent) As a prime example - Who but a liberal could possibly be so unintelligent as to swallow the “Manmade” global Warming hoax? I mean, like, it requires an IQ lower than that of your average pebble or rock to be bamboozled by such nonsense, also there are a few liberals who CALL THEMSELVES “Christians”. But just as fire and ice are incompatible, Christianity and Liberalism are equally incompatible. Whatever Christians promote - Liberals oppose, If liberals can find “Separation of church and state” in the Constitution why can’t we find “Separation of liberals and humanity” in the Constitution? Abortion is inhumane and if it’s possible to be more inhumane, then “Partial Birth” Abortion would be it.
Heirborn Ranger
91 mig // Aug 12, 2007 at 6:11 am
BattleCry
http://www.godtube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=22424cf61ae7edb98288&page=2&viewtype=&category=tf
92 Right Truth // Aug 12, 2007 at 7:36 am
Sunday Reading List 8/12/07…
Sunday, the day God rested after creating this beautiful world. I wonder what he’s thinking today about his creation? While you have a few minutes this Lord’s day, pick out a few articles below for your reading pleasure. If you…
93 JamesonLewis3rd // Aug 12, 2007 at 6:15 pm
Jeopardy!
94 JamesonLewis3rd // Aug 12, 2007 at 6:16 pm
Oops…..
Jeopardy! — The Greatest Television Show in the History of Mankind.
95 Ms RightWing, Ink // Aug 12, 2007 at 8:25 pm
I have returned from my trip to Cincinnati. Oh dear how hot it ’twas, but after another near death experience with the heat and the zoo, I can say all is well.
I saw c-a-t’s sister perform in a play and she was maug-neef-acent dahling.
I love Cincinnati and the downtown is really alive compared to Cleveland. In actuality there is no comparison. But, you better have southern blood in ya or you will die. I saw people at the Zoo who wasn’t even breaking a sweat, and me, well I was calling for help.
Its those muggy river towns. Hunk Finn, you can have it. Give me a nice cool sparkling stream in the mountains anytime.
So, what was the subject?
96 R.A.M. // Aug 13, 2007 at 5:07 am
Merv Griffin—-Rest in peace dear sir!
I still remember Arthur Treacher’s intro, “Here’s the dear boy himself,—MERRRRRRR-Vin!”
97 R.A.M. // Aug 13, 2007 at 5:10 am
JL3: I agree, JEOPARDY was/is the greatest game show ever!
2nd place I give to “The Price is Right”, but ONLY with Bob Barker!
98 mig // Aug 13, 2007 at 5:57 am
I thought the Dating game was pretty funny.
99 JamesonLewis3rd // Aug 13, 2007 at 6:15 am
Chuck Barris
100 JamesonLewis3rd // Aug 13, 2007 at 6:18 am
Bob Stewart for Mark Goodson–Bill Todman
101 JamesonLewis3rd // Aug 13, 2007 at 6:26 am
Yes, yes, I know, I know…..the idea for Jeopardy! actually came from Mrs. Griffin…..but, at least, Merrrrrrrrr-vin did write the music used during Final Jeopardy!.
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