(2007-02-19) — Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, seeking the Republican nomination for the presidency, today said he backs the former Clinton administrations “don’t ask-don’t tell” policy regarding homosexuals in the military, and he proposes extending it to cover Mormons running for the White House.
Mr. Romney, who is already “out” as a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, said there are too many false stereotypes about Mormons, and a candidate should be allowed to keep his private life private.
“I’m not running for pastor in chief,” said Mr. Romney, “but commander in chief, so my religion has nothing to do with my qualifications for the job.”
An unnamed spokesman for the Republican National Committee agreed, and said, “We’re a diverse, big-tent party. And nothing will demonstrate that fact better than when President Romney and any number of his First Ladies take up residence in the White House.”
22 responses so far ↓
1 Scott Ott // Feb 19, 2007 at 2:56 pm
Romney Backs Don’t Ask-Don’t Tell for Gays, Mormons…
by Scott Ott(2007-02-19) — Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, seeking the Republican nomination for the presidency, today said he backs the former Clinton administration’s “don’t ask-don’t tell†policy regarding homosexuals in the militar…
2 Ghoti // Feb 19, 2007 at 2:57 pm
God Bless America!
(and ET, too)
3 Ghoti // Feb 19, 2007 at 2:58 pm
Scott’s too quick on his fingers.
4 da Bunny // Feb 19, 2007 at 3:14 pm
If Mitt doesn’t win the RINO nomination/Presidential race in ‘08, will he be able to sue the voters for religious discrimination against a Mormon? Or, will the vastly uninformed among us confuse “Mormon” with “Muslim” and vote him in as a slam against Bush? [who isn't running in '08, btw]
5 gafisher // Feb 19, 2007 at 3:19 pm
“… and any number of his First Ladies …”
As long as it’s not 72 virgins . . .
6 Darthmeister // Feb 19, 2007 at 3:42 pm
I bet Dhimmiecrats would rather vote for a gay Congressman running a prostitution ring out of his home than a monogamous Mormon. Now with a polygamous Mormon a “progressive” Dhimmie might be tempted.
7 Ms RightWing, Ink // Feb 19, 2007 at 3:58 pm
Gays and Mormons all in one article. Oww, now that can really hurt.
Mommy always told me never to talk about sex in public and also never, never take off my Temple underwear in public, even if I try to copy Britney. Jeesh, what a life.
Does anyone feel a breeze on their heads.
8 vittles scooper // Feb 19, 2007 at 4:37 pm
Scott will be on the radio tonight between 6-8 p.m. - check out his new thread!
9 seneuba // Feb 19, 2007 at 4:38 pm
All that door to door work sharing the “message” of Joe Smith appears to have prepared him well for campaigning in the months to come.
10 RedPepper // Feb 19, 2007 at 5:23 pm
Wasn’t Mitt Romney’s father George W. Romney? The Governor of Michigan who claimed that he’d been “brainwashed” during a visit to Vietnam?
Maybe Mitt should try Just For Men™ …
11 Rock Slatestone // Feb 19, 2007 at 7:15 pm
“Don’t ask don’t tell,” isn’t that the democrats stragedy for keeping our country safe?
12 mig // Feb 19, 2007 at 9:45 pm
The old priest lay dying in the hospital. For years he had faithfully served the people of the nation’s capital. He motioned for his nurse to come near.
“Yes, Father?” said the nurse.
“I would really like to see Ted Kennedy and Hillary Clinton before Idie.” whispered the priest.
“I’ll see what I can do, Father” replied the nurse.
The nurse sent the request to the Senate and waited for a response. Soon the word arrived. Kennedy and Clinton would be delighted to visit the priest.
As they went to the hospital, Clinton commented to Kennedy “I don’t know why the old priest wants to see us, but it will certainly help our images.” Kennedy couldn’t help but agree.
When they arrived at the priest’s room, the priest took Kennedy’s hand in his right hand and Clinton’s hand in his left. There was silence and a look of serenity on the old priest’s face.
Finally Senator Kennedy spoke. “Father, of all the people you could have chosen, why did you choose us to be with you as you near the end?”
The old priest slowly replied “I have always tried to pattern my life after our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.”
Amen” said Kennedy.
“Amen” said Clinton.
The old priest continued…”He died between two lying thieves. I would like to do the same.”
I’m just saying…
13 mig // Feb 19, 2007 at 10:10 pm
sigh
One more mission.
One more chance to find a bomb.
One more chance to save a life.
One more chance to take one.
One more chance to die.
14 Possumtrot // Feb 20, 2007 at 6:30 am
Never had a problem with a Mormon; never will.
15 Darthmeister // Feb 20, 2007 at 9:04 am
From Powerlineblog. Another example of Muslim taqiyya (holy lying) exposed.
CAIR supports terror: A case study
After his acquittal of certain terrorism charges and a hung verdict on others, Sami al-Arian pleaded guilty to one count of providing financial assistance to a terrorist organization — Palestinian Islamic Jihad, of which al-Arian was the North American leader. Judge James Moody sentenced al-Arian to the maximum time on the charge and addressed a few choice words to al-Arian:
You looked your neighbors in the eyes and said you had nothing to do with the Palestinian Islamic Jihad. This trial exposed that as a lie….The evidence was clear in this case that you were a leader of the Palestinian Islamic Jihad…
When Iran, the major funding source of the PIJ, became upset because the PIJ could not account for how it was spending its money, it was to your board of directors that it went to demand changes. Iran wanted its representative to have a say in how its money was spent. To stop that, you leaped into action. You offered to rewrite the bylaws of the organization…
But when it came to blowing up women and children on buses, did you leap into action then? … No. You lifted not one finger, made not one phone call. To the contrary, you laughed when you heard about the bombings, what you euphemistically call “operations.†…
And yet, still in the face of your own words, you continue to lie to your friends and supporters, claiming to abhor violence and to seek only aid for widows and orphans. Your only connection to widows and orphans is that you create them, even among the Palestinians; and you create them, not by sending your children to blow themselves out of existence. No. You exhort others to send their children… You are indeed a master manipulator.
16 MegaTroopX // Feb 20, 2007 at 11:01 am
“We’re a diverse, big-tent party. And nothing will demonstrate that fact better than when President Romney and any number of his First Ladies take up residence in the White House.â€
This joke was old before any of us were born (including Romney).
17 KevinB // Feb 20, 2007 at 3:33 pm
Ditto’s to #16…
I suppose the Romans had some pretty good zingers about Christians and lions, too… Hmm.. why don’t we hear those anymore? Oh yeah- besides being in poor taste, they would only be funny to 3rd century Romans.
“I bet Dhimmiecrats would rather vote for a gay Congressman running a prostitution ring out of his home than a monogamous Mormon.”
re:#6 - Darth: Unfortunately, some Evangelicals would do the same, for fear of the big “M” word.
Incidentally, there are only monogamous Mormons- Any who practice otherwise are excommunicated from the faith, or are copycat religions who center their beliefs on the illegal practice. The practice of polygamy was ceased by the LDS/Mormon church in 1890 (I realize this is so much more recent than the whole lion/Christian debacle, so I’ll give Scott a pass for not quite having heard about it yet).
18 Darthmeister // Feb 21, 2007 at 9:43 am
Like I’ve been saying, hyper-seculars have mischaracterized Thomas Jefferson’s views and Mr. Jefferson was no “Deist”. As we most informed Americans know, Mr. Jefferson is the ONLY founder to have used the term “strict wall of separation between church and state” or any variation thereof. So what did Jefferson himself think of this “strict wall of separation” … it had a gate!
JEFFERSON ADVOCATED “GATE” BETWEEN CHURCH AND STATE
By Bob Unruh
Thomas Jefferson, credited with penning the famous “wall of separation between Church and State” on which many secular organization have rested their hopes of eliminating Christianity from the public square, actually believed in a “gate” allowing free passage between the two, according to a researcher who’s reviewed Library of Congress documents.
How else, asked Todd DuBord, senior pastor at Lake Almanor Community Church, could Jefferson as president in 1803 recommended a treaty with the Kaskaskia Indians in which U.S. taxpayers promised to pay $100 a year for seven years “for the support of a [Catholic] priest …” and made a commitment that “the United States will further give the sum of three hundred dollars to assist the said tribe in the erection of a church…”
And how else could Jefferson, as president, have held Christian church services in the executive branch buildings, the U.S. House of Representatives, and even the U.S. Supreme Court chambers? he asked.
“I used to believe in ‘a wall of separation between Church and State,’” DuBord wrote in a compilation of his research prepared for his church website. “After researching the religion and politics of Thomas Jefferson in the Library of Congress, I now understand that barrier was a gate Jefferson would often pass through.”
DuBord, who was exposed to the conflict between the actual Christian heritage of the United States and what is being portrayed as the nation’s secular heritage while on a tour of the Washington, D.C., and nearby areas, has researched the nation’s Christian heritage through materials from the Library of Congress, and has been submitting requests that agencies responsible for that information be more accurate.
For example, he’s been campaigning with the U.S. Supreme Court to provide information that the stone tablet in the East Wall Frieze actually represents the Ten Commandments, not the ten amendments as current public information states. His documentation on the church’s website shows historical documents overwhelmingly support the Ten Commandments description.
WND earlier reported on his documentation of the other representations of the Ten Commandments in the Supreme Court Building.
His newest research includes pages of documentation of Jefferson’s active support for the teachings of Jesus, even to the point of federal subsidies for the support of missionaries, the construction of churches, the publication of the Bible and other key outreaches.
Now he’s seeking some corrections from the foundation that runs Jefferson’s Monticello home, and offers information to visitors. He noted that on his recent trip, a tour guide, although “cordial and informative about many matters,” became abrupt and even a little “arrogant” when asked about Jefferson’s faith.
“We all know Jefferson was a strict deist, who ardently fought for the separation of Church and State,” the guide announced at the historic site run by the private, nonprofit Thomas Jefferson Foundation, DuBord said.
But DuBord said his research actually supports the concept that Jefferson was more religious than most people know, and “used both his government positions and even funds on occasion to establish churches, distribute biblical information, and promote Christianity.”
“As a result, I am again respectfully requesting that a fuller view of Thomas Jefferson and his intermingling of government and religion (specifically Christianity) be reinvestigated and reintroduced into the Monticello tour guides’ information and education,” he said in his newest request.
Near the end of his life, Jefferson said in letters to Dr. Benjamin Waterhouse, on June 26, 1822; to William Canby, on Sept. 18, 1813; and to Charles Thomson, on Jan. 9, 1816, that:
The doctrines of Jesus are simple, and tend to all the happiness of man…
Of all the systems of morality, ancient or modern which have come under my observation, none appears to me so pure as that of Jesus…
I am a real Christian, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus.
DuBord explained his research convinced him that Jefferson was opposed to the “tyranny and corruptions” of Christianity, but not to the teachings of Jesus himself. In a letter to Dr. Benjamin Rush, he said, “I am a Christian, in the only sense he wished any to be; sincerely attached to his doctrines, in preference to all others.”
19 Darthmeister // Feb 21, 2007 at 9:54 am
Kevin B.
Thank you for clarifying the mainstream views of the modern LDS. Polygamy is still practiced by certain individuals who lay claim to being Mormon, but that in no way should reflect negatively on the Church of Latter Day Saints (though I have very real theological problems with Mormonism) who condemn the practice today. It would be equivalent to condemning the Seventh Day Adventists for the utter kookery of one Jim Jones.
Unfortunately for the Mormons, because of the teachings and practices of the early patriarchs of Mormonism (Joseph Smith and Brigham Young), polygamy will always be hung around the neck of modern Mormonism.
This may not be the last word on early Mormon polygamy, or even a balanced history per se, but it does point to the reality that early Mormons, particularly in their “promise land” of Utah, practiced polygamy until the U.S. government stepped in.
20 everthink // Feb 22, 2007 at 12:26 am
Wingnuts:
“I bet Dhimmiecrats would rather vote for a gay Congressman running a prostitution ring out of his home than a monogamous Mormon.â€
Of course, I can’t speak for all Dhimmiecrats, but speaking for myself, I’d much rather have a sinner any day, than some blow dried, Baptist glad-hander; let alone a pantheist!
But then, any Mormon is likely to be a better person, than ol’ “Blow’em away in the name of the Lord,†Jerry Falwell, or that phony “Combat Marine†Pat Robertson.
MULLAHS, MAYBE YOU MIGHT CONSIDER A CANDIDATE APART FROM RELIGION; OR BETTER YET, AFTER BUSH MAYBE YOU MIGHT THINK ABOUT STAYING AWAY FROM THE POLLS ALTOGETHER?
ET
21 Darthmeister // Feb 22, 2007 at 4:29 am
neverthink, I hate to waste this bit of wisdom on you but here goes: You’re the kind of media lemming who can read the ingredients on the back of a bubblegum wrapper and think you hold in your hands the answers to the secrets of the universe.
Now run along and go play in your sandbox.
22 Eli Dourado // Mar 14, 2007 at 9:39 pm
Politically Incorrect…
An unnamed spokesman for the Republican National Committee agreed, and said, “We’re a diverse, big-tent party. And nothing will demonstrate that fact better than when President Romney and any number of his First Ladies take up residence in the Whit…
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