(2006-12-26) — As news broke that the 2,974th member of the U.S. military had died in Iraq this week, pushing the U.S. death toll beyond the number who died in the 9/11 terror attacks, House Speaker-elect Nancy Pelosi, D-CA, rejected theories of a connection between the Iraq and 9/11 death tolls.
“It makes no sense to compare the body counts,” said Rep. Pelosi. “Saddam Hussein did not knock down the World Trade Center or hit the Pentagon. So, anyone who touts a link between what al Qaeda did on our soil in 2001 and what al Qaeda and other Islamic terrorists are doing now on Iraqi soil is a conspiracy theorist and fraud. There is no relevant connection.”
The lawmaker noted that “while U.S. troops are dying in Iraq because President George Bush has placed them in harm’s way for an ultimately meaningless and impossible cause, the 9/11 victims perished because of President Bush’s failure to reach out to radical Muslims, understand their grievances and find common ground during his first nine months in the White House.”
She encouraged all Americans to ignore the “body-count comparison stories” because, “as everyone knows, there’s no linkage between Iraq and 9/11 — other than they’re both Bush’s fault.”
111 responses so far ↓
1 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 26, 2006 at 8:40 am
God Bless America
2 Libby Gone // Dec 26, 2006 at 8:56 am
I wonder who they will blame after Jan, 21, 2009? Probably still President Bush.
Morning all,
3 Analchord // Dec 26, 2006 at 9:14 am
I’m thinkin’ 19 men martyrd themselves for allah on 911, and the math is 19X72 virgins equals a total of 666 virgins, and that’s proof enough for me that nostradamus was right! Run for your lives!!!
4 Ms RightWing, Ink // Dec 26, 2006 at 9:20 am
Who was the pencil pushing geek that sat by the news mike waiting for that one soldier to die???
5 Ms RightWing, Ink // Dec 26, 2006 at 9:50 am
Oh my dear friends, so many holiday stories that never made it to the pages of Shelly’s Cafe. I may need to do catch-up way into January. sigh. But here we go-up and at ‘em
Welcome To The 2006 Eating Olympics
http://shellyscafe.blogspot.com/
6 sojourner // Dec 26, 2006 at 10:04 am
I think the problem is that Pelosi, leader of the Democrats, has made a connection between integrity and losing political power.
7 Scott Ott // Dec 26, 2006 at 10:15 am
Pelosi: No Link Between Iraq and 9/11 Body Counts…
by Scott Ott(2006-12-26) — As news broke that the 2,974th member of the U.S. military had died in Iraq this week, pushing the U.S. death toll beyond the number who died in the 9/11 terror attacks, House Speaker-elect Nancy Pelosi, D-CA, rejected……
8 Rock Slatestone // Dec 26, 2006 at 10:26 am
The Ultra Liberal with the most lies wins.
9 Bill's Bites // Dec 26, 2006 at 10:28 am
Pelosi: No Link Between Iraq and 9/11 Body Counts …
Pelosi: No Link Between Iraq and 9/11 Body CountsScott Ott (2006-12-26) — As news broke that the 2,974th member of the U.S. military had died in Iraq this week, pushing the U.S. death toll beyond the number who died in…
10 Darthmeister // Dec 26, 2006 at 10:55 am
Nancy Pelosi (D-Moon) also added that there is no linkage in the body count of one Mary Jo Kopechne and the distinguished Senator from Massachusetts, Theodore “Stevedore” Kennedy.
“Accidents do happen,” Ms. Pelosi opined, “And thank Gaia for the great American legal principle that Democrats are always innocent in the eyes of their constituents even if transparently guilty of fraud and taking bribes … just ask William Jefferson of Louisiana.”
11 Darthmeister // Dec 26, 2006 at 11:24 am
Scott, what Nancy Pelosi didn’t mention, which all peace loving progressyves know to be true, is there really isn’t any comparison between the body counts of American civilians murdered on 9/11 by the Moosad (remember, 4000 Jooooooooooos had been warned to stay away from the WTC that fateful day) pretending to be Arab hijackers and the nearly 3000 American stormtroopers engaged in murdering mayhem in Iraq.
In the former case, the “innocent” 9/11 “victims” were were “little Eichmanns” - at least according that brilliant progressive peacemonger Ward Churchill. In the latter case the military personnel in Iraq had volunteered to be killed for Bush’s war machine when they were sent off to die for rich capitalists and multi-national corporations like Halliburton.
But don’t get me wrong, I SUPPORT THE TROOPS!!! We must bring these stupid (John Kerry) pawns home as soon as possible so we can put them all on trial for war crimes given how they’ve blindly followed the illegal and immoral orders of Bu$Hitler, thereby bringing such death and mayhem to a once peaceful , prosperous and free nation! Iraq was a much better place under the Supreme Dictator Sodamn Insane! And what’s his reward for standing up to evil America … a rope at the end of the gallows! Sheesh. IS THERE NO JUSTICE?
12 Hawkeye // Dec 26, 2006 at 1:05 pm
I knew it! I JUST KNEW IT!!
[It's always Bush's fault... I read it in the newspaper.]
13 Hawkeye // Dec 26, 2006 at 1:07 pm
FYI. There is also no link between Democrats and real statemen (and/or women).
14 Darthmeister // Dec 26, 2006 at 2:20 pm
It’s amazing how the left howled there was no linkage between al Qaeda and Saddam’s regime, even though the Clinton Administration made a previous assessment there was a linkage.
But the left and the lamestream media recklessly make the linkage between 9/11 body counts and the body counts of American soldiers in Iraq. If Iraq really isn’t a legitimate battle front on the war on terror, shouldn’t the 9/11-terrorism body count connection be made only with reference to the loss of America soldiers in Afghanistan? I mean, where is the infamous liberal nuance in all this?
And when will America end its imperialistic occupation of Japan, Germany, South Korea and the Balkans? Those immoral occupations have to be costing America more than the cost of the war in Iraq, right? We know those are all puppet regimes anyway being propped up by the Zionist luminati.
15 Darthmeister // Dec 26, 2006 at 2:23 pm
Okay, it’s the Illuminati. Bush stole my “Il”.
16 mig // Dec 26, 2006 at 2:44 pm
I’m ill and Bush can have it!
Has anyone noticed how old he looks? I heard that Rosie said that he is dyeing his hair so he looks older and we would feel sorry for him and stop being mean to him.
17 everthink // Dec 26, 2006 at 3:02 pm
Poor Sad Henry,
Re: 14
Dad and bros couldn’t break through I see; once again you have found some crackpot source to support your half-baked ideas. Try going mainstream will you!
THE WASHINGTON TIMES is wholly owned by the Rev. Sun Myung Moon’s Unification Church. You can’t even claim to by a Christian, and believe anything Moon says unless you, like him, believe his wife is Jesus Christ’s second incarnation.
Why do you think a Korean church bought an American newspaper?
So sad, so sad; too bad.
ET
18 everthink // Dec 26, 2006 at 3:04 pm
be
19 antodav // Dec 26, 2006 at 3:28 pm
Uh…72×19=1,368, Analchord. LOL.
And yet, Everthink, despite being owned by a nutjob like the Reverend Moon, The Times is still more fair to conservatives than the Post. So what does that say about the Post’s owners?
20 gafisher // Dec 26, 2006 at 3:40 pm
Ever think? Anyone who orders a Bible Study from the Washington Times is nuts, but they’ve got a pretty good reputation when it comes to reporting the news. The documents are cited in the article; it’s a matter of public record.
21 Darthmeister // Dec 26, 2006 at 4:05 pm
MSNBC: Terrorist Toxins in Iraq
Despite the liberal media narrative and the left’s ignorant naysaying this inciteful analysis dispells the feel good “no connection” drivel of the left. We’re not to believe there was a link between UBL and Saddam yet we are supposed to believe UBL was originally funded by America! Doh!
Saddam and Al Qaeda Had Connections
What’s interesting is the original document dump and audio files have been removed from the Internet for “security concerns” once the case was being made for this connection. If the shoe was on the other foot the left would be screaming, “Coverup! It’s a vast rightwing conspiracy to embarass Clinton! The documents are real and truthful. Re-release them! Put them back online!”
A brief history of the importance, origins and disposition of those 55,000 boxes of documents and audio files.
22 Darthmeister // Dec 26, 2006 at 4:23 pm
Translated Iraqi documents (which came out after the media narrative tried to establish the “no links between Saddam and international terrorists” narrative) paint a very different picture than the head-in-the-sand leftists, the IAEA, and the lying liberal media.
23 everthink // Dec 26, 2006 at 4:27 pm
Antodav
Re 19
It means The Washington Times is about as “Fair and Balanced†as Fox News. And maybe it means “The Washington Post†has an editorial bias against those who presently call themselves conservative.
These terms Liberal and Conservative are not static, each is in a state of constant flux; which, in my view, is necessary, unless you are Amish.
As American generations increase, the complexities, challenges, and demands of life increase. The founders could have never conceived of corporations as large as General Motors, or of the scientific advances humanity has made, or of a society with today’s ethical, moral, or spiritual requirements.
While most Liberals believe there are absolutes, they do not believeâ€one size fits allâ€.
Most religious zealots of the world, of all faiths, have not come to their zeal without the guidance, and often the misleading of others.
Many, like “Mr. Conservativeâ€, Barry Goldwater would not have found themselves among friends in today’s “Conservative†movement.
You might find that many Liberals do not fit the label Karl Rove has managed to hang on them.
Barry and I would have still found agreement in most things today.
It is Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, Sun Myung Moon, and today’s religious right and I who have parted ways.
24 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 26, 2006 at 4:36 pm
I find it utterly disgusting to observe the pathetic rants of self-aggrandizing, degenerate, leftist hate-mongers such as everthink and its ilk who decry the use of reliable, fact-filled sources to back up assertions and opinions when they, themselves, have virtually no personal knowledge and feverishly employ such fonts of venom as MSM propagandists, Hollywood attention-seekers and various avowed enemies of the USA to back up their vicious, empty-headed and putrid claims.
25 everthink // Dec 26, 2006 at 4:59 pm
It would seem JamesonLewis3rd may be in disagreement with my views. I, for one, am very impressed he can use so many platitudes about them, without actually saying he disagrees. He must be very smart!
26 everthink // Dec 26, 2006 at 5:01 pm
Jameson, I utterly hope you’ll feel better soon.
ET
27 everthink // Dec 26, 2006 at 5:05 pm
Ever think? What’s this? Now don’t whine if I respond to ga fisher, ok.
ET
28 everthink // Dec 26, 2006 at 5:09 pm
Hey, how about gaf? I can deal with that, is it ok?
29 everthink // Dec 26, 2006 at 6:36 pm
Did you see where the U. S. Army may look for recruits outside the United States?
What a sad commentary!
Conservative spin suggests liberals either can’t leave their lives of debauchery, or are “hate America first” traitors, or at best are,”cut and run” cowards.
But, where are the Republicans? Where are those who believe their God has called them to obey their president? Remember you all have said this war is God’s will for America!
Neo-cons, go ye to all the land and seek those who don’t “have other priorities”, or have fathers in high places.
Go recruit neo-cons, before Rangel gets a draft enacted, and America drafts more useless Democrat kids!
ET
30 Godfrey // Dec 26, 2006 at 6:50 pm
Hank, welcome back. I was about to send out a search party.
31 Harry Daschle // Dec 26, 2006 at 7:39 pm
Have you seen those new commercials for Combos snacks that state, “It’s what your Mom would feed you if she were a man!”
I bet this is what Rosie O’Donnell feeds her kid. It would fit, but you would have to pry Rosie’s hands off any food she holds first, and that would be about as hard as getting food away from Michael Moore, booze away from Ted Kennedy, getting that gavel back from Pelosi in 2008, or drugs and his PC, away from everstink!
Good luck with ANY of those scenarios!
I stayed on topic by throwing in that ‘gavel’ thing!
32 Harry Daschle // Dec 26, 2006 at 7:45 pm
I just heard ABC is changing the name of their show, “The View†to, “I Love Rosieâ€.
The new show will star Rosie as a Cuban bandleader with her ’significant other’ in a supporing role as a stay at home mom who wants to break into show business. Rosie’s landlord will be played by Nancy Pelosi, reviving the role played by William Frawley, with the Vivian Vance role being played by Barney Frank.
Sound familiar? And no I am not talking about Rosanne Barr and Tom Arnold!
The show will borrow from the old “I Love Lucy†grapics at the begging and end of the show, with the announcer stating at the end, “I Love Rosie is a lesi-du production!â€
33 Analchord // Dec 26, 2006 at 7:47 pm
I subtracted 911 from 1776, and I got 666. Nostradomas was right! Run for your lives!
34 Harry Daschle // Dec 26, 2006 at 7:50 pm
graphics and beginning—sheesh!
35 Harry Daschle // Dec 26, 2006 at 7:51 pm
Not real good at math are we?
36 Harry Daschle // Dec 26, 2006 at 7:52 pm
About like my spelling!
37 Libby Gone // Dec 26, 2006 at 8:41 pm
Butnote,
do the math again.
38 Libby Gone // Dec 26, 2006 at 8:46 pm
Eversink,
I challenge you to personally interview current enlistee’s and draw a PIE CHART. Otherwise shut your PIE (self delete).
39 Darthmeister // Dec 26, 2006 at 9:37 pm
Thanks Godfrey. Unfortunately I don’t have much of a suntan to show for my expedition to help elevate the little people of the Yucatan penisula with my ill-gotten “wealth”.
Here are reasons we can’t trust the lamestream media (other than their outright left-wing bias which is obvious to most honest observers) based on the same “logic” neverthink uses:
Pinch Sulzberger owns the New York Times. He’s a Joooooooo and he’s LIBERAL. And all Jews are closet Zionists. So the New York Times clearly reflects the liberal kook bias of its owner, and owner who blamed the NYT readership for the Jason Blair scandal!
CBS News is owned by Viacom and Viacom is run by fat cat liberals (like the top 8 out of 10 Senators in the U.S. Senate) whose political action committee gave 70% of their political donations to liberal Democrats. The guiding light of CBS and its news division is none other than the flaming Hollywood liberal, CBS Chairman Leslie Moonves.
Even ex-CBS President Gordon Sauter sees CBS News’ bias. Mr. Sauter, President of CBS News in the early 1980s, revealed in a Los Angeles Times op-ed that he “stopped watching” Dan Rather’s CBS Evening News because “the unremitting liberal orientation finally became too much.” Sauter is hardly a conservative; in 1990-91, for instance, he was a producer of the syndicated Voices of America with Jesse Jackson. “Personally, I have a great affection for CBS News,†Sauter wrote. “But I stopped watching it some time ago. The unremitting liberal orientation finally became too much for me. I still check in, but less and less frequently. I increasingly drift to NBC News and Fox and MSNBC.â€
ABC is owned by the Walt Disney Company and the company is heavily populated with liberals. Also, Mr. Disney himself was an unabashed liberal humanist … and a Joooooooo. Dang Zionists, and the worst ones are manipulative liberal Zionists. Can’t trust ABC.
40 Analchord // Dec 26, 2006 at 10:22 pm
Well, I never…!
41 everthink // Dec 26, 2006 at 10:25 pm
Libby,
Who are you to challenge me about anything; or to issue ultimatums? Why don’t you just “double-dare” me, or something?
You seem to think you have some knowledge of the military, I don’t; were you ever actually in the service, or have you just read alot of Hank’s stuff?
ET
42 Ms RightWing, Ink // Dec 27, 2006 at 12:05 am
duh, duh, duh, duh (presidential music)
God rest Gerald Ford
43 Fred Sinclair // Dec 27, 2006 at 12:34 am
FIREARMS REFRESHER COURSE
1. An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.
2. A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone.
3. Gun control is not about guns; it’s about control.
4. If guns cause crime, then pencils cause misspelled words.
5. “Free” men do not ask permission to bear arms.
6. If you don’t know your rights you don’t have any.
7. Those who trade liberty for security have neither.
8. What part of “shall not be infringed” do you not understand?
9. The Second Amendment is in place in case the politicians ignore the others.
10. 84,987,543 firearms owners killed no one yesterday.
11. Guns only have two enemies: rust and politicians.
12. You don’t shoot to kill; you shoot to stay alive.
13. Criminals love gun control — it makes their jobs safe
14. If guns cause crime, then matches cause arson.
15. Only a government that is afraid of its citizens tries to control them.
16. You only have the rights you are willing to fight for.
17. Enforce the “gun control laws” we ALREADY have, don’t make more.
18. When you remove the people’s right to bear arms, you create slaves.
19. The American Revolution would never have happened with gun control.
20. The West wasn’t won with a registered gun.
“Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not.” - Thomas Jefferson
“There is no Constitutional right to own and bear arms. There is however a Constitutional recognition of a citizens right to own and bear arms and a guarantee that the right shall not be infringed upon.” - Fred Sinclair
Heirborn Ranger
44 Godfrey // Dec 27, 2006 at 12:53 am
Hank: I went to the Yucatan Peninsula a few years back. I elevated a few people to the tune of $5 to $10 each (by buying their trinkets). The best way to elevate others is to reward their industry.
For the record I spent most of that vacation hugging a toilet. Montezuma always gets his man.
45 everthink // Dec 27, 2006 at 1:01 am
Fred, give your gun to the nice doctor; he only wants to help you.
46 Godfrey // Dec 27, 2006 at 1:20 am
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47 Fred Sinclair // Dec 27, 2006 at 2:01 am
Luke 22:36 “Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one”.
The sword Jesus spoke about is generally agreed upon among the scholars I’ve read, as referring to the “Roman Short Sword” examples in many museums even today. Blade length varied from 18″ to 22″ and was for close range self defense only. For aggression one would use a “battle sword”; bow & arrow; crossbow; lance; spear, etc.
That was NOTa request. It was beyond doubt one of the most specifically direct orders from Christ’s own lips in all of Scripture. “he that has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one”. Pretty direct and specific one would have to say.
Now consider this is to be used ONLY in self defense! When Peter used his sword to cut the ear off of the High Priest’s servant, Christ stopped him and stuck the ear back on his head signifying that the sword was not to be used against constituted authority. (Had I been that servant, I would have converted - on the spot!).
Scripture notes that they were already armed, Further consider that the Roman Short sword was at that time, hi-tech, state of the art implement for close range self defense. Consequently, today’s hi-tech, state of the art close range self defense is the snub-nosed revolver, ergo: my Scriptural authority to own and carry without need of a government issued “Concealed Weapon’s Permit”.
Direct order from Christ Himself to travel with the means of self defense.
Heirborn Ranger
48 Godfrey // Dec 27, 2006 at 3:06 am
Fred: not sure I buy into the idea that the Roman short sword was meant for “self defense”. It was, as you correctly point out, cutting edge technology at the time, but it was technology which, in conjunction with the advanced fighting techniques used by the Romans, enabled the Romans to attack, conquer and subjugate many other societies. They weren’t just defending Rome.
In fact the short sword enabled them to become one of the most effective attack forces in military history. Self defense was only a small part of the equation.
Likewise the Christians, beginning under Constantine, did not exactly limit their military activity to self-defense. They attacked and subjugated many peoples, often in the name of their religion. Within scripture itself there are many instances of the “sword” being used for purposes of conquest…often at the behest of God.
And when the LORD thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword: But the women … shalt thou take unto thyself.-Deut.20:13-14
When you get pulled over and cited for possession of a firearm you might want to consider the contingency that your “Scriptural authority” defense may not stand up in court.
49 Fred Sinclair // Dec 27, 2006 at 3:23 am
Godfrey: You quote “with the edge of the sword…” and that is of course the long curved battle swords - not the “short sword”. I could not possibly care even so much as a whit about what will “stand up in court” for I would much prefer to be tried by twelve, than carried by six.
Besides which I am seldom (zero to date) “pulled over” while in my wheelchair. I will however brace that bridge when I come to it.
Heirborn Ranger
50 Godfrey // Dec 27, 2006 at 3:36 am
Fred: I myself have occasionally felt the need to carry my SW99 when traversing areas like Compton or East Los Angeles. When I’m headed for such places I don’t hesitate to bring it along, permit be damned.
51 Possumtrot // Dec 27, 2006 at 4:34 am
Godfrey, have you checked out the Sig Sauer P-232? It’s a much lighter carry than the BHP .40 or the S&Ws. You don’t have the Wyatt Earp option of pistol-whipping problems, but it makes the line of your sports coat hang more naturally.
I can’t wait for this Botoxed harridan to assume her position of “leadership” in Congress. Ever the optimist, I have great hopes for the future of the Libertarians as the next true alternative to Democratic Socialism.
There is an early disclaimer that I don’t want John McCain or Barack Obama as my next president over at United Possums International. There is also a shameful admission that’s right up there with voting for Jimmy Carter.
Someone should remind Ms. Pelosi that we lost more Marines taking the island of Iwo Jima than during the entire Iraq campaign.
52 Possumtrot // Dec 27, 2006 at 5:17 am
Sigh…another lost comment. I don’t know if it ever publish.
Godfrey, have you checked out the Sig Sauer P-232? It’s a lighter carry than the BHP .40 or the S&Ws. You lose the Wyatt Earp option of pistol-whipping problems, and might actually have to use the darned thing, but it’s quite elegant and dependable if/when you need it. It also makes less of a bulge under your sports coat, and lets the line hang much more naturally.
I keep refreshing the ScrappleFace page, hoping I’ll see my original comment show up, but that doesn’t seem to be a happening thing this pre-dawn morning. Maybe I just dreamed that I typed it in.
Let’s see…how did it go? Oh, yes…there’s a shameful admission over at United Possums International that’s on a par with admitting I voted for Jimmy Carter back in the day. There’s also a touch of early prognostication, and an exclamation that I don’t want John McCain or Barack Obama as my next president. But, that’s just me, and even the trolls say I’m boring…
I can’t wait for this Botoxed harridan to assume her position of “leadership†in Congress. Ever the optimist, I have great hopes for the Libertarians. We’re not yet in a position to assume the mantle from the Democrat Socialists, but our time will come.
Someone should remind Ms. Pelosi that more Maries died taking the island of Iwo Jima than all the military personnel who have died in the Iraq campaign. If those figures aren’t impressive enough, she should check out D-Day or the Battle of the Bulge. Even a high-school dropout like moi knows how to read a history book.
About time this publishes, the original will show up. So it goes, as Kurt Vonnegut said.
53 Possumtrot // Dec 27, 2006 at 5:19 am
I knew it.
54 gafisher // Dec 27, 2006 at 6:27 am
Fred, RE #43: “Gun Control means hitting your target.”
55 Fred Sinclair // Dec 27, 2006 at 6:45 am
The “Pug” Charter 5 shot .44 Spec. is even neater under a Sports Coat and in actual use (average 2-3 shots) and launches a 246 gr. projectile @ a tad over 900 fps from a 2 1/2″ pipe instead of a 9mm. (aka .38 Spec-short) with it’s 90-110 gr. pill, usually requiring the “double-tap” to get the job done.
My wife handled it readily, being 6′2″ & 165lbs. but it’s not normally considered a girls weapon. (the apparent recoil takes a bit of getting used to, @ 6′0″ & 180 lbs I encountered no problems).
Heirborn Ranger
56 Possumtrot // Dec 27, 2006 at 7:08 am
The wife, at 4′11″ and about 110, handled a .44 Mag revolver without jumping too much. I always liked the BHP .40 for that Earp option. I’d rather not blow some idiot out of his socks when a simple slap upside the head will suffice.
The P-232 fits quite nicely on the wheelchair, without sacrificing weight or mobility. The velocity makes up for bullet size. I bought one for my daughter for her birthday on Pearl Harbor Day [7 December] and she seems to like it. I got a good deal on mass purchases at the gun show this fall, and gave one to the older daughter’s husband. The third one is residing in the headboard of my bedstead, just in case.
I’m down to sharing recipes at United Possums International. There’s some traditional Southern cusine over there. Thank Ms. RW for making me share. I was inspired by her Championship Eating piece, and we don’t need no stinkin’ sleep, nohow!
57 gafisher // Dec 27, 2006 at 7:56 am
Ms. RightWing #42: Gerald Ford was a fine Congressman and a true statesman who knew he was sacrificing his political future for the good of the country, and did it anyway. I met him on several occasions, and did business with his law firm once or twice (I share his District, as well as (most of) his initials and his birthday). Ford will be missed. I just wish he’d been correct when he forecast that “our long national nightmare [was] over,” but those who labored to tear down our country then are still shredding merrily today.
58 Analchord // Dec 27, 2006 at 8:48 am
Gun control? Right to bear arms?
Totally not the issue.
The question of guns is one of safety. Guns have a way of just goin’ off in someone’s face, (usually a relative of the gun owner). That’s because most gun owners are oblivious to the danger. Gun owners dream of their gunmanship, and carry cards that say, “Have gun - will score low on IQ tests”.
Put the gun down, Palladin, this is grandma’s house.
59 Ms RightWing, Ink // Dec 27, 2006 at 8:52 am
phew, someone must of had some big dreams about guns last night. Oh well, it is the holiday season and I guess if I started talking about decorative china here………..
60 Libby Gone // Dec 27, 2006 at 8:57 am
ET,
My stance is the US Military protects my freedom and lets me live free. I disagree with anyone who tries to impune their integrity.
61 Darthmeister // Dec 27, 2006 at 9:33 am
Both Heirborn Ranger and Godfrey make very valid points about Christians and Luke’s record of Christ encouraging his followers to acquire the sword. Little question the Roman short sword was the assault weapon of the day used for CQB though lances, spears, bows, slingshots and other implements were used to project deadly force on the battlefield. This has great implications of my own understanding the Second Amendment and how the “right to bear arms” was a reference to smallarms, the most modern and effective small arm that can be acquired by the private citizen in defense of home, hearth and country. The Second Amendment was debated and ratified during a time when the Pennsylvania and Kentucky rifles were effectively being used as the assault rifles of their day.
Many “progressive” Christians claim that “the sword” to be borne by legitimate government authorities in Romans 13 against “evildoers” was really a dirk. This intellectually lazy intepretation is clearly an attempt to emasculate government and to prematurely hammer swords into plowshares. Even if the Greek word used in this instance only meant “a dirk”, a dirk was still used for what we would call today to be “surgical attacks”, extreme CQB. And there is no country better at “surgical” attacks or strikes than the U.S. of A.
There is little question that Christ never said or implied His Kingdom should ever be advanced at the tip of a sword. When it comes to the spread of the Gospel we battle against spiritual forces, not terrestrial. However, whenever the Gospel was not at stake, Jesus reaffirmed man’s natural right to defend himself, his family and/or his neighbor when being threatened by criminal elements - and this would include criminal elements within illegitimate governments. It’s no accident that Holy Writ has Jesus Christ giving this command to His disciples to acquire a sword and then we are given the example of Peter impetuously striking off the ear of one of those government authorities coming to arrest Jesus. The tone and tenor of Jesus’ rebuke to Peter was not to rid himself of the sword but rather to return it to its proper place. And at no time, when confronted with Roman authority like a centurion did Jesus ever refer to such people as warmongers or encourage them to abandon their post within rightful government. Jesus actually complimented them for their own recognition of the chain-of-command and the need for law-and-order and encouraged them to be fair in how they dealt justice to and enforced the law with respect to their fellow man in the street.
62 Darthmeister // Dec 27, 2006 at 9:47 am
Possumtrot,
Having owned the .45 ACP Glock 21, the Colt .45 1911, a Ruger P-90 and having shot the H&K and SIG Sauer in .45, in my estimation, dollar-for-dollar, the most impressive pistol to date is the Springfield Armory XD in .45 caliber. If 13 rounds of .45 Auto can’t get the job done, not much else will in a handgun caliber. I am licensed to carry the SA .45 in fourteen states and safely transport it in a closed case in the other 36.
I fear the day will come - if the U.S. government becomes more left-wing and attempts to further disarm law abiding citizens - when even hunting rifles will be redefined as “sniper rifles”, .22 caliber pistols will be portrayed as “the arm of choice among assassins”, and shotguns besmirched as “deadly street sweepers used only by thugs and criminals.” Of course all the braindead liberals will hail that day as another step toward their earthly utopia.
63 Ms RightWing, Ink // Dec 27, 2006 at 10:03 am
gafisher
I remember the day clearly when Ford replaced Nixon. I could easily write a book about the media paranoia (not the Nixon as we so much hear about).
As usual, a good man had to put himself into a place of being where mud is slung. His wife paid the price of all the limelight also.
I would not wanted to be the man he had to be, but thankfully he was better than most.
Just think, it could have also been Spiro Agnew. Aaaahhhh!
64 RedPepper // Dec 27, 2006 at 11:58 am
Rest In Peace, President Ford.
No more Mr. Nice Guy.
65 Godfrey // Dec 27, 2006 at 1:22 pm
Possum: “You don’t have the Wyatt Earp option of pistol-whipping…”
I haven’t checked that one out. I can tell you, though, that the SW99 is the lightest gun in my rather small collection; it’s a Smith body with a plastic slide made by Walther, which actually makes for a pretty handy pistol whip, not that I’d ever resort to such a gauche discourtesy when I can just shoot ‘em instead.
We’re not yet in a position to assume the mantle from the Democrat Socialists.
The value of the libertarians, I think, is that they force both parties to think very carefully before passing legislation that expands government. The Republicans were reminded of the importance of the libertarian vote in November. It’s only a matter of time before the Dems will get a little reminder of their own.
I don’t think the LP will ever be able to field viable candidates. But after Bob Barr jumped the Republican ship, who knows? Others may follow…principled Constitutionalists from both parties.
Analchord: “Guns have a way of just goin’ off in someone’s face.”
Guns are inanimate objects. They don’t have “ways”…they’re hunks of steel waiting for some idiot to mishandle them.
I have cleverly circumvented this last problem with the use of a lockbox. I can get to my gun in about three seconds…it would take anyone else three hours and a crowbar.
Your point is taken, though: gun safety should be a required course for all gun owners.
Hank: well said. I would only add that in Revelations 19:15 Jesus himself wields (or will wield) a sword-with his mouth, no less. Whether this is literal or allegorical is, of course, a matter of longstanding debate.
66 everthink // Dec 27, 2006 at 1:28 pm
“My stance is the US Military protects my freedom and lets me live free. I disagree with anyone who tries to impune their integrity.”
Comment by Libby Gone — December 27, 2006 @ 8:57 am
Look here Libby,
I take your answer to mean you were not in the service. If that is true, than like all the other Chickenhawks here you don’t have a STANCE, you have only a seat in a place to the rear of, but not behind the troops, but still you want to tell me how a soldier feels when I question the orders of his CNC!
Well, (expletive self-deleted), he’s defending my right to do just that! It is my right and my duty to question the actions of my government. That’s what a free people do to stay free!
I hope he feels like someone cares enough to be sure his life is not wasted in a completely unnecessary war.
I never tried to “impune” the military.
I was a soldier! My son was a soldier and served in Iraq and Somalia. My family have been soldiers since the American Revolution where my 4th great-grandfather fought with The Third Maryland Line at The Battle of Cowpens, (and his father in the French and Indian War before that).
My heart will always be with our troops! And I mourn their loss daily!
My bet is what you’re really concerned about is the stooge in the White House; well stay tuned about that too folks!
67 Analchord // Dec 27, 2006 at 1:31 pm
Are you suggesting, Darthmeister, that our government ban dum-dum shells? That would leave us virtually defenseless against the bludgeon, the knife, or the piano wire. A snub nosed .357 magnum loaded with dum-dum shells is the only logical choice for personal protection.
WHY? Because Any danger to you is by definition up close and personal, where such weapons reign supreme. At that range, it’s a howitzer. When the mugger shows his weapon, let him say hello to your little friend.
Chevy Chase did a diservice to the institution of the presidency by mocking Gerald Ford’s clumsi-glide down the ladder of air force one. Gerald Ford was a decent man who went to his grave rather than rat on nixon’s role in the kennedy coup e’etat. That’s what’s wrong with bush, he mixed up duex et machina with coup d’etat. Gotta be. Like this one.
68 Darthmeister // Dec 27, 2006 at 1:31 pm
John F’n Kerry is being dissed by military commanders in Iraq during his visit.
Compare that to the open respect Donald Rumsfeld got when he was there a couple of weeks ago, which the lamestream media pooh-poohed as “institutional respect”.
69 everthink // Dec 27, 2006 at 1:35 pm
Possum,
My stainless Sig P-232, in a thin flat, holster also fits nicely in my front trouser pocket. Where I carry it daily.
70 Darthmeister // Dec 27, 2006 at 1:59 pm
Are you suggesting, Darthmeister, that our government ban dum-dum shells? That would leave us virtually defenseless against the bludgeon, the knife, or the piano wire. A snub nosed .357 magnum loaded with dum-dum shells is the only logical choice for personal protection.
“Dum-dum”? How passé. I take it you mean “158 grain hollowpoints”? I have absolutely no problem with the most effective means to stop those with criminal intent, more specifically, murderous intent. Government should stay out of the business of personal defense except for ensuring that local law enforcement is more concerned with protecting and serving the law-abiding citizens of this country and not coddling criminals with allegiances to some new PC code of “ethics”.
Personally I’d take a 230 gr. hardball round traveling at 900 fps over a 158 gr. HP at 1300 fps - and 13 in a magazine are far more persuasive than 6 in a cylinder, but admit to having a soft-spot for the .357 Magnum wheelgun.
Oh, and for controversy’s sake, I believe full-automatic firearms fit into the definition of “smallarms”. Would I want one? Not really, though I do own civilianized semi-automatic versions of “assault rifles”.
Having legally fired a full-auto .45 cal. Thompson Machinegun, M-16, FAL, RPK, AK-4s, Bren, Stens, MAK-10, and 9mm UZI, I believe the average civilian is far better served with the more controlled rate of fire of the semi-auto versions. Saves on ammo and easier on the pocket book. Fortunately there is a Marine Corps veteran who is Class 3 dealer within two hours drive in our People’s Republic of Illinois. He has his own shooting range out back and the auto toys to rent. He has the Ma-Duece but at three bucks a pop that’s way too expensive for my taste. I also have some shooting buddies in neighboring Indiana who are federally licensed machinegun owners and there its BYOA - bring your own ammo.
71 Ms RightWing, Ink // Dec 27, 2006 at 2:45 pm
Guns are dangerous and you will only end up poking out your eye
72 Possumtrot // Dec 27, 2006 at 3:09 pm
One of my fondest memories is driving down to Grandma’s house unannounced, showing up at the side door, and being confronted by two very sweaty gentlemen. They were being held at gunpoint by Grandma, who had and old Harrington & Richardson .38 that still worked perfectly well, despite the fact she’d bought it from Sears & Roebuck years before for $6.95. plus tax and a box of cartridges.
The gentlemen in question had suffered genuine car trouble, and asked only to use the telephone. For whatever reason, Granny drew down on them with her old wheel gun. They were not comfortable with this situation, and even though I initially drew on them with a much more modern Browning pistol, they were much relieved to see the last of Grandma and her .38 growling up the hallway into obscurity.
Firearms prevent much more crime than they are involved in, and this fact should be acknowledged by every gun-grabbing socialist who seeks to disarm America to the disadvantage of law-abiding citizens.
73 Godfrey // Dec 27, 2006 at 3:21 pm
ET re: #66 “[If] you were not in the service…you don’t have a STANCE…”
If you were indeed in the service you deserve our thanks. If you did indeed have a son in Desert Storm you deserve our thanks again. And you have it…or at least you have mine.
But it is fallacious to pretend that a government of, by and for the people should only value the opinions of people who served in the military. Such a characteristic would better fit a totalitarian or fascist system than a free nation under whose Constitution the military is clearly subordinated to civilian leadership…and whose civilian leadership is in turn subordinated to the will of the people.
If we lived under a military junta, you might have a point. But, thanks in part to men who were willing to serve (presumably including yourself), we live in a democracy…at least for the moment…so your point is somewhat less than valid.
74 everthink // Dec 27, 2006 at 3:24 pm
“Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not”. - Thomas Jefferson Comment by Fred Sinclair December 27, 2006 @ 12:34 am
Can anyone give me a cite, a date, or any legitimate source for this quote?
I only get six hits when I Google it. They are five Right-Wing Nut sites, and an online gaming site where they use military sounding names like: 187th Airborne Regiment. At “the 187th” a guy named Gulley says: “Im the Leader”. My guess is at least some of the Heirborn Rangers hangout there.
I know you have all asked yourselves: Who are the HeirBorn Rangers?
Well the HeirBorn Ranger Handbook (a Tribulation Survival Manual). Says: “In the United States Military, the Airborne Rangers have a Handbook, which explains tips for survival in Combat situations. They show you, in their Handbook, how to build radio antennas, write operations orders, blow up bridges, and other things like that. This book, The Heirborn Ranger Handbook, is for Christian Soldiers, and it provides tips for survival in the spiritual, as well as in the physical realm.”
Hairbrain Ranger, just a couple of points:
First, your groups play on the Ranger name demeans it.
Second, tell the guys its the “Ranger Handbook”, not the “Airborne Rangers Handbook”, because all Rangers are Airborne.
75 Godfrey // Dec 27, 2006 at 3:32 pm
Possum: Firearms prevent much more crime than they are involved in…
As evidenced in John Lott’s book More Guns, Less Crime, a detailed, systematically documented work that shows how conceal and carry permits reduce crime, often drastically.
76 everthink // Dec 27, 2006 at 3:49 pm
Godfrey,
Your conditional thanks is of no value to me! Nor, do I intend to have an on-going nit picking contest with your fastidious self. The half-wit accused me of impugning the military.
Of course, all citizens have a full say in all the actions of their government.
That includes me; and I surely don’t need one of you, who have not served, to tell me when I have insulted MY brother.
y
77 Fred Sinclair // Dec 27, 2006 at 4:31 pm
O’boy once again…. seems like it’s easier to nail jello to the wall than to get some people to understand that they are posting on a site that is a SATIRE site.
I support Scott Ott as a fairly substantial monthly donor. Obviously some people don’t.
Since both the words heir and air are pronounced the same, the play on words is called a pun. Since the Bible teaches that we Christians were predestined from before the creation of the universe to be heirs of God. We re Scripturally called “heirs of God and Joint heirs with Christ” - (Rom 8:17) and we are to be in the Lord’s army insofar as we are used in His war with satan. We, for example sing songs - “Onward Christian Soldiers” and “The Battle Hymn of the Republic” (”Marching as to war…”) and since all good soldiers strive to become Rangers so, in like manner, us soldiers in the Lord’s Army pay the price to become Rangers. Since we are born to be heirs…..”Heirborn Rangers” and as difficult as it is to nail the jello to the wall so is it difficult to get an idea through some people’s brain.
This is known as satire. Check with Scott for further confirmation seeing as he too is an Heirborn Ranger. It takes faith by the way. as the Bible records “1Cor. 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.”. So it would be futile to hope that some people (”…them that perish…”) would be able to comprehend the satire that goes with “Heirborn Ranger” since any one who names the name of Christ has equal right to the Salutation. To those who don’t it is hidden.
Heirborn Ranger
78 Darthmeister // Dec 27, 2006 at 4:43 pm
Godfrey,
Looks like your SW99 is an excellent equalizer. I found other links which gave high praise to it. I’ve handled them at gun shows but never shot one. Is yours .40 or .45? Looks like it has a backstrap option, loaded chamber indicator and an excellent safety system. It also appears to have a very low-maintenance finish.
The Springfield Armory XD is very similar in many ways. I guess this is where the present generation of carry pistols are headed. Though it doesn’t have an interchangeable backstrap option the SA does have grip safety AND a safe-action safety cum Glockâ„¢ with TWO loaded chamber indicators. It too is striker-fired and the trigger pull is excellent on my particular example. Oh, the “14 rd. capacity” is a sort of marketing ploy since really the SA XD in .45 is 13 + 1.
neverthink, though I couldn’t find the actual historical documentation for that particular Jefferson quote either, there are other founding opinions just as powerful:
“I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.”
George Mason, co-author of the Second Amendment
during Virginia’s Convention to Ratify the Constitution, 1788
“The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that … it is their right and duty to be at all times armed … “
Thomas Jefferson
letter to Justice John Cartwright, June 5, 1824. ME 16:45.
“What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms.”
Thomas Jefferson in a letter to James Madison
“To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them.”
Founder Richard Henry Lee in the “American Statesman”, 1788
“And that the said Constitution be never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the Press, or the rights of Conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms.”
Samuel Adams quoted in the Philadelphia Independent Gazetteer, August 20, 1789, “Propositions submitted to the Convention of this State”
79 Darthmeister // Dec 27, 2006 at 4:49 pm
Fred, I can back you up on your “heirborn ranger” moniker. From the very first you made it clear that’s precisely what you meant by that, that being an heir to the King of Kings and one day becoming airborne … well you’ve already explained it.
I can testify you’ve never engaged in any pretense by co-opting the martial glory of the real “airborne Rangers” or whatever. Clearly neverthink just likes to turn satiricial molehills into mountains while busily polishing his own pretentious boilerplate.
80 everthink // Dec 27, 2006 at 4:49 pm
Say Fred,
I always wondered why it was that the Lord Jesus waited three years, with all that traveling till the last twelve hours of his ministry to tell his disciples to buy a sword. Was that an oversight?
Silly me; I always thought it was to make clear that He had freely surrendered His Life, and that he had not been taken against His Will.
81 everthink // Dec 27, 2006 at 5:00 pm
Hank,
Come on now, I said you boilerplate first! Don’t steal my stuff!
It’s not hard to guess what he meant by Heirborne Ranger, but I thought surely it must be a group of born-again ex-Rangers.
Sadly it is not.
82 Fred Sinclair // Dec 27, 2006 at 5:05 pm
re# 80: “…Silly me…” yes , pretty silly. Peter spoke up after the “buy” directive, with “Look Lord here we have two”. To which Jesus replied ‘that’s enough”
They had been armed all the while. Jesus was making a point with His directive, He knew of the swords and was making the point that preparation for self defense was IMPORTANT!!!
Now be honest everthink, have you really “always wondered why”?
Heirborn Ranger
83 Darthmeister // Dec 27, 2006 at 5:07 pm
Here’s more on the military’s snubbing of John Kerry while he visits Iraq.
Buwahahahahahahahahaha **gasp** hahahahaha!
84 everthink // Dec 27, 2006 at 5:08 pm
I wish to be known hereinafter as:
everthink, Crusader of Truth!
For a small fee, I will be accepting memberships in my Crusade. Everyone will have to start out at squire, except me, of course; I’m a Knight. I’ll let you know more later.
85 Fred Sinclair // Dec 27, 2006 at 5:08 pm
5 .44 Spec. 185 gr Winchester Sillvertips fits my idea of best for my use with only one arm. I know; I can work the slide on a Gvt. .45 with one hand (and have) but why bother? No, for me, the Charter .44 Spec. “Pug” is capable enough for any need I might have.
Heirborn Ranger
86 Fred Sinclair // Dec 27, 2006 at 5:11 pm
re # 84: yep, pretty silly - you called it.
Heirborn Ranger
87 everthink // Dec 27, 2006 at 5:18 pm
Fred,
I attended Moody Bible Institute for a time.
88 Fred Sinclair // Dec 27, 2006 at 5:35 pm
#87 You got me there, I applied but they wouldn’t let me in when I challenged their “traditions of men” policy on non-smoking. I would have to stop smokinf and remain smoke free for a year before re-applying.
Their putting tradition ahead of the Bible assured me that MBI was not for me. (I still have and smoke my pipes.)
Heirborn Ranger
89 Fred Sinclair // Dec 27, 2006 at 5:45 pm
#83 Darthmeister: that link to Michelle is a hoot! Thanks, I’ve never seen Wannabee President Kerry looking so regal (not). I had to download the pic to my i-Photo - it’s a keeper for sure!
Heirborn Ranger
90 Darthmeister // Dec 27, 2006 at 6:09 pm
I attended Moody Bible Institute for a time.
For a time? What did they do, tar and feather you? [(~;}
Crusade? I bet it would be a pretty unholy one at that! I think I’ll pass. I wouldn’t trust your decoder ring anyway.
John Edwards Joins 2008 Presidential Race
Boy, I didn’t see that one coming.
Sales of new homes rose 3.4% in November…
Still the worst economy since the Great Depression.
Polar Bears ‘Threatened’ By Climate Change”
Now after assassinating James Brown and Gerald Ford, Bu$Hitler sets his sights on innocent Polar Bears as a result of not signing the Kyoto Treaty. Figures.
SADDAM’S BAATH PARTY THREATENS TO HIT U.S. TARGETS
The “religion of peace” continues to firm up its 21st Century track record. Hamas, Hezbollah, Fatah, Shiites, and now the Sunni Baathists. After all, love means never having to say you’re sorry.
91 everthink // Dec 27, 2006 at 6:22 pm
Fred,
I’m not sure what you mean about “traditions of men”; but, if it’s card playing, dancing, smoking, and drinking, I’m inclined to agree, with some reservation.
Which brings to mind a story: This long standing church member came to his pastor and asked: Can a Christian smoke, and still go to heaven. The pastor thought for a minute, then answered; “yes”; but he added, “and a lot quicker than those who don’t!”
92 everthink // Dec 27, 2006 at 6:30 pm
add “going to movies” to 91.
93 Fred Sinclair // Dec 27, 2006 at 6:40 pm
My favorite is the old lady in the back row of her church; the pastor preached against fornication, she loudly exclaimed “AMEN, brother, PREACH IT!!!”
adultry - “AMEN, brother, PREACH IT!!!”
booze - “AMEN, brother, PREACH IT!!!”
cigarettes - “AMEN, brother, PREACH IT!!!”
pride - “AMEN, brother, PREACH IT!!!”
murder - “AMEN, brother, PREACH IT!!!”
theft - “AMEN, brother, PREACH IT!!!”
gossiping - “Now he’s done quit preachin an gone on to meddlin!”
Heirborn Ranger
94 Godfrey // Dec 27, 2006 at 6:43 pm
ET: “Your conditional thanks is of no value to me!”
The only condition placed upon my gratitude is that you actually served. Claiming to have done so on someone’s blog doesn’t exactly constitute evidence of service, but I give you the benefit of the doubt. If you did serve, my thanks is unconditional whether you want it or not.
Hank: mine is .40 cal, actually. I love the low weight, although that means dealing with a bit more recoil than a heavier, all-metal weapon. And the long-pull trigger is much better than a safety catch. There’s a certain comfort (and reverence!) that comes from knowing that every time you tug on the trigger a bullet is going to come out. As for the finish, it is very easy to maintain. Mine is much cleaner than the picture I linked to above!
95 Godfrey // Dec 27, 2006 at 8:08 pm
Interesting (if slightly old) Q&A with John Lott here.
96 onlineanalyst // Dec 27, 2006 at 8:12 pm
Just stopping by at the armory to wish everyone the best of the Christmas season and the New Year. With that pause, may I direct you to a reflective piece about “just muddling through”? It’s rising fast in the charts with a bullet, as those old disk jockeys used to say.
As you were, men!
97 onlineanalyst // Dec 27, 2006 at 8:13 pm
Hmmmm…. Try this link.
http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/g/f1579a24-9ab3-4c88-9825-93ab58345668
98 everthink // Dec 27, 2006 at 8:41 pm
Godfrey:
So let me make sure I understand, what you’re saying is: If I served, and I happen to have a copy of my DD214, and you can see it, you want to offer your unconditional thanks.
Now, how can I be sure you mean that? Do you have some offer of proof you can make? If I only have some way I could be sure you mean it, I’d be willing to accept that, I guess.
ET
99 Godfrey // Dec 27, 2006 at 8:41 pm
OLA, if I didn’t know better I’d think you were mocking us gun folk.
I’d read the Hewitt link but I’m too busy caressing my SW99…
100 Godfrey // Dec 27, 2006 at 8:47 pm
ET: “If I served, and I happen to have a copy of my DD214, and you can see it, you want to offer your unconditional thanks.”
Nope. I already gave you the benefit of the doubt. Geez, all of this over what was a relatively obvious point and a sincere thank you.
Who’s being fastidious again?
101 onlineanalyst // Dec 27, 2006 at 9:17 pm
Godfrey: Nah! Just driving on through the gunfight at OK Corral. I thought that y’all would be happy to hear from me… but those were just guns in your pockets.
The Hewitt piece, btw, is actually a post from Dean Barnett, who puts a lot of life’s strifes into perspective.
Ciao!
102 everthink // Dec 27, 2006 at 9:59 pm
Thanks Godfrey
103 Godfrey // Dec 27, 2006 at 11:00 pm
ET: all of our soldiers deserve our thanks.
OLA: Of course it could be that we’re both packin’ heat and happy to see you.
I never new Hewitt had CF. I disagree with him on a number of points and often scratch my head at his radio diatribes but I definitely respect his intellect. I hope he’s one of the CF sufferers that make it to old age.
104 onlineanalyst // Dec 28, 2006 at 6:57 am
Actually, it is Dean Barnett, who has the CF. Hewitt just posted Barnett’s thoughts.
105 Ghoti // Dec 28, 2006 at 8:10 am
Both Benedicts, Arnold and Kerry, had histories of admirable service, but their treasonous reversals for personal gain negated that part of their past.
Kerry received the reception he deserved in Iraq. Would a visit to troops in Vietnam 35 years earlier, following his “supportive” statements of ‘71, have resulted in a different reception at that time? I think not. I wish he had given us the opportunity to demonstrate our disgust with him during those times.
106 Darthmeister // Dec 28, 2006 at 9:25 am
Amen, Ghoti. Kerry is getting his just rewards sitting at empty tables while in Iraq. But a man with an ego as big as his will simply shrug it off as “poor stupid soldiers who aren’t nuanced enough to understand what he really meant even though nobody but another flaming liberal can ‘figure it out’.”
107 Harry Daschle // Dec 28, 2006 at 2:07 pm
Maybe Kerry can squirt a little Heinz Catsup on him while there and apply for another fake Purple Heart?
Perhaps he should have went to Thailand with Clinton recently?
“Bubba” was only about 40 years late to the region, but NOW he can at least say he went there!
108 TouchyFeely // Dec 28, 2006 at 6:29 pm
Beware professional politicians: The only answer: One-term term limits. End the need for Re-election/retirement funds.
109 mig // Dec 31, 2006 at 2:35 pm
Top 10 states fatal car crashes were equal to 5821.
I’m just saying.
110 mscir // Jan 3, 2007 at 12:06 am
I think 19 Israeli men martyrd themselves for Israel on 911, with NeoCon help.
111 Pros and Cons » Somalia update - Please direct your feet, to the Sunni side of the street. // Jan 3, 2007 at 12:00 pm
[...] There are gripes aplenty in the blogosphere about the reportage on the Horn of Africa, and the conditions that prevail there. Here are some from Ogre. He seems to share the “problem with” Muslims, especially the violent variety, that most of the world has. Hat tip, Basil. From the same source, there is this highly revealing story of certain people force-feeding girls, like geese. Still, it appears that this is almost the only place in Africa where girls are fed more than boys. Still, it appears that this is almost the only place in Africa where girls are fed more than boys. In related news, Don Surber reported that there are similar habits of mental onanism among our own “elites”. Sadly, we seem to imitate their side more than they do us, at least in the habits I should like to see them imitate.Anyhow, the “forces on the ground” ignored all the atmospherics and rapidly rendered them irrelevant by winning convincingly and quickly. (Note to self, take down Iran fast - that works.) NPR headlined it ““>Somalia Gov’t Gains Ground with Ethiopia’s Help“. More Ethiopia reorting showed up the next day, and the day after that, captioned “Islamic forces flee Mogadishu; government takes over Somalia’s capital”. Since then, things have continued to go swimmingly for the Ethiopians and their allies in the U.N.-recognized Somali government. That headline read, simply, “Somali PM Islamic fighters defeated” and the good news keeps flowing in. The Ethiopians promise to be gone within a fortnight or two. Wise planning. Let the Islamists fight over the carcass known as the non-Somaliland parts of Somalia. As I recall, when aid flows stopped after Black Hawk down, violence abated too, as there was little worth fighting for. That’s the way I see it anyways! [...]
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