(2006-11-24) — In an effort to make its film about the birth of the Christ more relevant to the holiday season, New Line Cinema today released a re-cut version of its promotional trailer for ‘The Nativity Story‘, incorporating elements of other popular holiday classics like ‘Deck the Halls’ and ‘Deja Vu’.
The re-released trailer comes after focus groups told New Line that the original commercial “lacked a strong holiday appeal.”
“We acknowledge that a baby born in a manger 2,000 years ago has little relevance for today’s audiences,” said an unnamed studio spokesman, “but we’re hoping the new spot will let us ride the coattails of these other films that capture the meaning of the holidays more explicitly.”
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1 gafisher // Nov 24, 2006 at 11:17 am
America bless God!
2 conserve-a-tips // Nov 24, 2006 at 11:22 am
Gafisher, you poor, lonely soul. Oh. I’m here too. Hope you had a great Turkey Day!
3 Beerme // Nov 24, 2006 at 11:23 am
It’s pretty clear that it’s got Holiday appeal, now!
4 Bill's Bites // Nov 24, 2006 at 11:32 am
‘Nativity Story’ Trailer Re-Cut for Holiday Relevance…
Video — ‘Nativity Story’ Trailer Re-Cut for Holiday RelevanceScott Ott (2006-11-24) — In an effort to make its film about the birth of the Christ more relevant to the holiday season, New Line Cinema today released a re-cut version of…
5 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 24, 2006 at 11:46 am
It is indeed heartbreaking that so very many do/will not see the “relevance” of the Greatest Possible Gift mankind will ever know.
For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life.~~John 3:16
6 gafisher // Nov 24, 2006 at 12:11 pm
Kind of like “Lord of the Rings” but with real Evil, real Good, and at least references to the Real Lord.
7 Hawkeye // Nov 24, 2006 at 2:20 pm
Wow! Jesus came before Santa Claus? Who’d a thunk it? Man, am I outta touch…
(:D) Regards..
8 SeaDog // Nov 24, 2006 at 2:49 pm
Isn’t it a great reflection on us that we’ve been able to put this meaningless drivel on the back burner and turn Christmas into what America really wants; people fighting and shooting each other over who gets the last of the latest video games.
Here’s a scary thought; God judges people AND nations. I shudder to think of what kind of judgement He has in store for us. He keeps warning us (earthquakes, fires, hurricanes, muslim attacks, etc.) and we keep turning a deaf ear to Him.
9 Fred Sinclair // Nov 24, 2006 at 4:50 pm
Interesting that the trailer continues the myth of “three” wise men (or Magi). In spite of the fact that anyone with a Bible (and who reads it) knows that nowhere in the Bible is there even a single reference to there being “three” - it always refers to them with plurals -”we, they” but nowhere is there a specific number given. (More details on request)
Heirborn Ranger
10 egospeak // Nov 24, 2006 at 5:56 pm
Fred,
re: 9
You are of course 300%, no 3000% correct. That myth persists because of the three gifts that are mentioned. Much like Bruce Willis, myths “Die Hard”.
Regards,
11 Rock Slatestone // Nov 24, 2006 at 6:14 pm
Hopefully they didn’t use a plastic Jesus for the Nativity scene.
12 Ms RightWing, Ink // Nov 24, 2006 at 6:52 pm
So now it is Jesus that is responsible for Christmas. Why do they have to bring religion into everything?
13 conserve-a-tips // Nov 24, 2006 at 7:03 pm
I have read the book on which this movie is based…and I am just wondering what kind of ending the movie will have. It has been my experience that the book is always better then the movie.
14 conserve-a-tips // Nov 24, 2006 at 9:27 pm
I was just sent this and I had to share it with everyone. I found it to be beautiful and touching and just made this Thanksgiving season all the more heartfelt.
15 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 24, 2006 at 9:46 pm
Stuff like this gives me hives.
16 Fred Sinclair // Nov 24, 2006 at 10:20 pm
egospeak
re: 10
From what I’ve read (by scholars that are supposed to know) it was the most important moment in history and none of them wanted to miss out. (so, leaving a few behind to take care of business) there was most probably an estimated 15 - 20 Magi that made the year long trip. As when Cleopatra visited Antony she brought a fortune in presents, Solomon was presented with barges laden with treasure. The Magi were Kingmakers and no one could become a King without having studied under them. They were even there to place the crown on the a new kings’s head. What made this an unheard of event was that the “Kingmakers” were traveling to worship a King that they had not crowned!!!
They did not make the trip to gift the King of the Jews with a handful of gold coins or a bottle of precious ointment. They traveled with a caravan of camels laden with bar ingots of gold, vats the size of a 55 gal. oil drum (I’ve been over there and seen them) filled with Frankincense and myrrh, a couple of vats per camel and a caravan of 30 - 40 camels. A guard of perhaps 60 or so soldiers. To ward off or fight bandits that were used to sweeping down out of the hills to rob & plunder caravans.
When they rode into town, looking for “The King of the Jews” it says Herod was ‘greatly troubled’ (and rightly so as his troops were out country and here was this gang of foreign troops
(Persians - forerunners of today’s Iranians) riding about in his city and he had conned Rome into naming him “King of the Jews”
in fact the entire city was terrified as they knew he was insane.
Later after ordering all male babies under age two in Bethlehem to be killed, he died and according to the Jewish calendar, which has never changed, crossing to our Gregorian calendar, Herod died in the year 4 BC, since Jesus was upwards of about 2 years old we have a 4 - 6 year error in our calendar, so this (averaging to 5) is not currently 2006 but (using BC & AD) rather the year 2011.
The Nativity scene is awry as the Bible clearly states that “they visited the young boy in his house” they arrived about a year after the manger scene.
17 Darthmeister // Nov 25, 2006 at 7:47 am
Yes, The Little Drummer Boy and Santa Claus Is Coming To Town are the epitome of X-mas music which effectively communicates how the evil Empire victimized the poor like Mary and Joseph* and forced them to live in barns with smelly animals. As a result Joseph founded PETA and the rest is history.
*As a historical footnote. There is no actual history which indicates Mary and Joseph were “poor”. They were certainly of humble origins but them being housed where they were in Bethlehem was a result of probably being latecomers and the traveling establishments were simply filled up. Better a barn than a tent and better a tent than sleeping in the open.
18 Darthmeister // Nov 25, 2006 at 8:06 am
Fred Sinclair, you’re absolutely right. The tradition of the “three magi” came much later:
The first pictorial representation of the Magi appeared in the third century Roman catacomb fresco at St. Domitilla and showed four magi. Later in the fourth century the wise men show up in the catacombs of St. Peter and St. Marcellinus, but this time there were only two. Some medieval lists in the eastern church give as many as twelve.
The Scripture is quite mute about how many magi there were even though it does mention the three gifts. Some scholars have posited that the gifts made Jesus’ family quite wealthy, but Scripture is mute about that, too. Being a “carpenter”, Joseph was probably able to provide for a comfortable home and living for Mary, Jesus and the other brothers that followed (though Roman Catholics will dispute that Jesus had half-siblings). But they were probably like any young couple starting out with their first child. Also, there is some dispute that Jesus and Joseph were really “carpenters”, but rather a stone masons. Once again this doesn’t reflect badly on Holy Writ but rather our understanding of all the details of the history surrounding the birth, life and death of Messiah Jesus.
I believe what we see with the various nativity stories loosely based on biblical accounts is simply a matter of compression and oversimplification. This shouldn’t reflect badly on Holy Writ itself (the skeptic will usually engage in such cheap shots), but rather people trying to keep traditions simple and understandable when historical information is lacking about the specifics. Most of these traditions were generated before the New Testament was canonized, though the Church itself had a pretty good idea of the general outline of Messiah being born to a virgin, was visited by magi from the East and was probably born during lambing season though the traditional celebration of Jesus’ birth was moved to December to satisfy some desire on the part of the Catholic Church to redeem some kind of pagan holiday … or so the story goes.
19 Ms RightWing, Ink // Nov 25, 2006 at 8:43 am
Okay, after a long void on the Scrapple page let me just say a simple but powerful-good morning or in my mother tonugue-god dag
20 Ms RightWing, Ink // Nov 25, 2006 at 8:46 am
And just what is Cheney doing in Saudi Arabia-planning a war so Nancy the Government Nanny will have something to keep her busy for the next two years?
Nothing like ruining a Democrat’s holiday weekend
21 conserve-a-tips // Nov 25, 2006 at 10:18 am
Darthmeister and James,
Back when I was in high school, I remember our minister, in his big, booming baritone “Hellfire and Brimstone” voice taking the one scripture, “For there was no room at the inn” and turning it into 30 minute diatribe on how evil and discriminatory the innkeeper was. I actually felt sorry for the innkeeper when he was finished. The fellow gets a really bad rap, y’know? Did anybody ever contemplate that there really was no room at the inn and that the Christ was supposed to be born in such a lowly setting?
22 conserve-a-tips // Nov 25, 2006 at 10:20 am
Ms Rightwing Ink:
Good morning! Or rather, Bon matin! How are you feeling? I am assuming that it is cold up your way and that you all will be sending it to us very, very soon.
23 Ms RightWing, Ink // Nov 25, 2006 at 10:28 am
Nay, on the cold. It has been drop-dead-gorgeous. On Thanksgiving we sat out on my friend’s back porch out in the country just soaking up the rays, even swatted a fly or two. What a Thanksgiving.
Yesterday we went to the local zoo and all the animals and birds (even the flamingos) were out enjoying global warming. Today, so far, nice and sunny.
So if you receive bad weather, blame Upnorth lurking, not I:-)
24 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 25, 2006 at 11:30 am
RE: #21~~
conserve-a-tips~~
It is interesting (and unfortunate) that someone would have such a view of the innkeeper in light of historical facts and the Scriptural account.
He actually did Joseph and Mary a favor.
He could have said, “Buzz off.”
25 Briscoe // Nov 25, 2006 at 11:39 am
Hey, there’s room for everybody in the Christmas story, right?
Cartoon: Christmas Message
- Briscoe
PS: My apologies if I show up as anonymous. Can’t seem to figure out how to fix that.
26 Ms RightWing, Ink // Nov 25, 2006 at 11:46 am
It is interesting to hear the arguments over the manger, of which I believe was his birthplace, but being born in a manger doesn’t make you the Messiah. It’s what took place for the next 32 years that one should remember.
Now off to trim the tree!
27 Fred Sinclair // Nov 25, 2006 at 11:58 am
Darthmaster - I believe Jesus was quite wealthy. God knew His Soon would need finabcing, Judas was the “keeper of the purse” and why would that position of treasurer be necessary if there was no money to put in it?
Amazingly enough, when Jesus had been teaching to many thousands - only men were “counted” so with wives and children there was most probably upwards of ten thousand or more - Peter in a seemingly casual manner brought to the Master’s attention that they had been there all day and “….do you want we should go into the nearby town and buy food for them?” Jesus worked out the fishes and loaves miracle, as springing for lunch financially would have been a good sized bill. Once He paid for Peter’s tax bill and his own by way of the coin in the first fish caught mouth.
The “Vow of Poverty” vow came along much later as did the forbidding to marry idea. Peter and several Apostles were married - including Saul (later to become the Apostle Paul) but it’s financially better to provide your workers with a blanket to wear with a rope tied at the waist and a daily bowl of gruel in a barren cell than to have to pay him enough to support a family. Good financial planning there, although totally without Scriptural merit.
No Jesus didn’t have a place to lay His head (basis for the poverty vow) but it was because He wasn’t into earthly possessions not because He was broke. No guilded chariot with a team of perfect horses as His transportation or wrist bands and rings adorned with precious stones - I cannot even mentally envision Him even wearing a ring of any sort.
Probably used His money to help the poor and needy.
Heirborn Ranger
28 egospeak // Nov 25, 2006 at 12:15 pm
Speaking of the Innkeeper and no room at the Inn, I suppose it’s time for Jesse Jackson to come out of whatever hole he’s been hiding in the past few months, and once again amaze us with his complete lack of knowledge and/or understanding of the Christmas story.
Yes dear friends it is time for Rev. Jesse to stand up and pontificate about homelessness and compare the typical homeless person of today with Joseph and Mary. Doesn’t matter that Joseph and Mary had a home but were forced to go on this long trip by the Roman Government (to fulfill God’s will). No sir!! Can’t let facts get in the way of a good social story… er, program. Hallelujah!!! Can I get an Amen???
I used to get angry when Jackson and other Biblically illiterate Democrats would do this but now I kinda enjoy it… it’s sort of like watching a train wreck in slow motion.
Regards,
29 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 25, 2006 at 12:37 pm
Speaking of Jackson: “I might add that we’re really going to begin to fight to prohibit that word in public usage as hate language.”
The guy cracks me up. Too funny.
I’d almost give up the First Amendment if it would shut his pie hole.
30 conserve-a-tips // Nov 25, 2006 at 1:09 pm
Ms Rightwing Ink:
Sounds like you had a great Thanksgiving. We had beautiful weather too…in fact, I wore shorts! But that is soon to be over as we have been informed by our weatherman that a cold blast is on the way. Oh well.
BTW all, did anybody catch this?
I love his statement:”"The world is rapidly becoming Ahmadinejadized…When I telephone other leaders, I am told that they are on trips. [like him]”
Right. They can’t come to the phone because they are on trips because they have seen him take trips. Isn’t that cute?
31 conserve-a-tips // Nov 25, 2006 at 1:10 pm
Whoops..forgot to close those italics.
32 Beerme // Nov 25, 2006 at 5:01 pm
He’s on a trip! That explains his nutty behavior. Tim Leary eat your heart out!
Briscoe,
You do nice work!
33 RedPepper // Nov 25, 2006 at 9:20 pm
A tiny minority of religious fanatics are trying to hijack one of the world’s greatest commercial traditions …
34 Darthmeister // Nov 25, 2006 at 11:03 pm
egospeak, buwahahahahahaha.
As we now know, thanks to the Reverend Jesse “Zipper” Jackson and the rest of the race baiters, Jesus was actually the first black Jew. Sammy Davis Jr. was the second one.
I have little patience with left-wing psuedo-Christians who mindlessly blather about a “black Jesus” or even portraying Messiah as a female. Jesus was 100% Hebrew, a male Jew born and raised in the mainstream of the ancient kingdom of Israel in the Promised Land. Deal with it.
But it is interesting to note there does seem to be evidence there are that are thought to have the right DNA markers to be descended from a “lost” Jewish tribe. Of course those who subscribe to Anglo-Israelism are probably ticked off at this scientific prospect.
35 Darthmeister // Nov 25, 2006 at 11:07 pm
Drats! My hyperlink disappeared! Dick Cheney stole it!
It should read: “But it is interesting to note there does seem to be evidence there are black Jews in Southern Africa that are thought …
36 conserve-a-tips // Nov 25, 2006 at 11:37 pm
Darthmeister, I remember reading in one of my magazines - I think that it was Christian History - that they are almost certain that the African Jews, specifically in Ethiopia are from the lost tribe of Dan. They also said that one of the tribes actually has a number of “crowns” ostensibly from Solomon, given to the Queen of Sheba and that some of the members are direct decendents of Solomon. It was a very interesting read.
37 myword // Nov 26, 2006 at 12:40 am
Good evening all. I trust you all had a good Thanksgiving.
Enjoying your conversations but going OT here.
I’m reading “Londonistan” by Melanie Phillips.
Steven Emerson has a blurb on the back cover. I’m
going to reprint it.
“Londonistan is one of the most compelling books you will ever read on the ascendancy of Islamic fundamentalism, violence and intimidation in the West. Melanie Phillips exposes the scandalous appeasement of militant Islam by British officials, the media, even the Church of England, capturing in extraordinary detail how British society and institutions have either ignored or actively fostered the growth of extremist groups on British soil. This book will both enlighten and enrage. Although its story is focused on the United Kingdom, it could be applied to any European capital or to the United States.”
Steven Emerson is an internationally recognized on terrorism and national security.
It is an eye-opener.
38 myword // Nov 26, 2006 at 12:41 am
oops. internationally recognized expert on terrorism
39 Ms RightWing, Ink // Nov 26, 2006 at 8:41 am
Grand Morning!
40 MargeinMI // Nov 26, 2006 at 10:21 am
Hello?
41 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 26, 2006 at 12:29 pm
Yet another example of why the MSM cannot be trusted.
I’ve heard the story about those people being doused with kerosene and set on fire on FNC several times over the last couple of days and, guess what?
“Neither Baghdad police nor Coalition forces have reports of any such incident.”
42 Stop The ACLU // Nov 26, 2006 at 2:48 pm
Sunday Funnies…
image courtesy of faithmouse
Samantha Burns has the moron of the week.
Scrappleface: Nativity Story Trailer Re-Cut For Holiday Relevance
Photo Caption fun at The Dumb Ox
This Blog Is Full Of Crap gets creative with the Thanksgiving leftovers.
Wuzzad…
43 Darthmeister // Nov 26, 2006 at 3:13 pm
Getting the news from the enemy’s mouth. Could insurgent news stringers be painting a false picture of Iraq?
There is little doubt Islamic sectarianism has made Iraq a violent place for infidel Coalition soldiers and Muslim civilians alike. But many killings that the lamestream media claims results in “civilian deaths” are actually gangland-type killings being visited upon active Shia and Sunni militia members who are Islamofascist in their ideology of violence and hate. Good riddance, but unfortunately these stories are often spun as “innocent Iraqi civilians being killed in sectarian warfare” by a media which rarely concerns itself with correcting initial false reports. Apparently its not in the liberal media’s interest to make such distinctions or to point out the failure of Islam to keep the peace among its most devout adherent. Islamic radicalism is THE problem, though Muslim apologists prefer to engage in the devil(foreign troops)-made-them-do-it excuse. The fact of the matter is, 99.9% of American and Coalition troops are acting professionally and honorably in trying to train indigenous forces to provide security for a people long steeped in the radical hatreds of Islam now unleashed by their liberation from a tyrant.
44 Darthmeister // Nov 26, 2006 at 3:15 pm
JL3rd, just saw your post. Must be on the same wavelength. Doh!
45 Darthmeister // Nov 26, 2006 at 3:27 pm
From the milblog, The Mudville Gazette:
Iraq war about to equal time U.S. spent fighting WWII
The Iraq war is about to reach a benchmark that puts it on par with World War II by one measure: Sunday, it will have lasted the same number of days — 1,347 —that the United States fought the Axis.
Of course, we haven’t left Germany or Japan yet either. (Or Korea, for that matter).
On a related note, at the current rate the US military death toll will surpass that of the 1.5-year long Mexican War (13283) in another 10 or 12 years or so. I’m not going to do the math on how long it will take to equal WWII’s U.S. death toll (428,000) but we’ve already had more killed than on D-Day. Eclipsing the month-long battle for Iwo Jima (7,000 deaths, 27,000 wounded) could happen in another 4 years or so.
Yeah, they shoulda impeached FDR for lying to the nation about what he knew regarding Pearl Harbor and getting 428,000 Americans killed and contributing to the 65 million civilians deaths around the world as a result of American involvement in World War II. The European fascists were no real threat to the American mainland.
46 RedPepper // Nov 26, 2006 at 4:31 pm
Darthmeister: Those who are shocked by the length of the Iraq war need to adjust their frame of reference.
The death of Muhammad occurred in Medina in June of 632. Almost exactly one century later, in October of 732, the battle of Tours was fought in what is now France. In that one-hundred year period, the armies of Islam had swept across the whole of the Mediterranean coast of Africa and invaded Europe - nor was that the sum of their conquests, which had also extended toward India.
Looking at far more recent events, the Ottoman Turks were beseiging Vienna (for a second time!) in 1683.
Conflict between the West and Islam is nothing new.
Those who cannot learn from history are condemned to repeat it.
47 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 26, 2006 at 5:07 pm
Indeed.
And anyone who does not think they are still intent on global domination, whatever the toll in innocent lives, is either deluded or complicit.
48 camojack // Nov 26, 2006 at 7:08 pm
¡Hola, mis amigos!
I’m back from South of the border; I would like to see this movie in its entirety, not just a trailer…if it exists. Does it?!
¿Y por eso, si es posiblé, donde está jugando?
49 conserve-a-tips // Nov 26, 2006 at 8:05 pm
Camojack, is there something wrong with your keyboard??? Your punctuation keeps showing up upside down!! And it seems that your letters got all jumbled because you can’t read the words. You’d think that you were using a foreign language or something…..Hope you had a fantastic time!
I went to your site and the pictures are gorgeous. We have some pretty neat caves in Oklahoma too. I grew up in Tennessee, however, and as a Girl Scout, spent a weekend inside Cumberland Caverns, sleeping on the floor of the big cavern, in a sleeping bag, and then exploring the primitive cave with a guide. There were no lights at all and no bridges or developed paths. It was pretty exciting and a little scary!
50 camojack // Nov 26, 2006 at 8:28 pm
conserve-a-tips:
Tennessee has the most caves of any State…although there are more caves per square mile in Hawaii than any other place. I write on the subject occasionally at my blog.
To make it on topic, the place where many believe Jesus was born (the manger) is actually a cave, too…
51 conserve-a-tips // Nov 26, 2006 at 9:13 pm
Have you ever been to Cumberland Caverns? I remember that as we all rolled up into our sleeping bags, watched over by diligent leaders, our guide proceeded to tell us stories to help us sleep better.
The one that really got us was about a man who had gotten lost in the cave and had become one with a certain fungus that glowed in the dark. We were warned to watch for him during the night, as he had been seen, glowingly green, by earlier adventurers, gesturing for help to escape his awful existence. Ooooooooo….
We also had to pack away anything small because of packrats. The main room was the only lighted part of the cave and boy, when they turned those lights off for us to sleep, it was just plain spooky. Darkest dark there ever was.
52 Ms RightWing, Ink // Nov 26, 2006 at 9:29 pm
Has anyone noticed the neat feature that when you point your mouse on a link on Scrappleface you get a little mini page of what someone is directing you to.
I first noticed it about a week ago. It is great if you are a fast scanner and don’t want to hit every link on the page.
Just thought I would mention it in case you haven’t noticed.
Ni’tall
53 Darthmeister // Nov 26, 2006 at 9:36 pm
The DemDonk dipstick Charlie Rangle manages to slur the American soldier once again:
I want to make it abundantly clear: if there’s anyone who believes that these youngsters want to fight, as the Pentagon and some generals have said, you can just forget about it. No young, bright individual wants to fight just because of a bonus and just because of educational benefits. And most all of them come from communities of very, very high unemployment. If a young fella has an option of having a decent career or joining the army to fight in Iraq, you can bet your life that he would not be in Iraq.
Thank you swing voters for putting bloviating jerks like this in greater positions of power for the next two years. May God protect us from such brain-dead nitwits during these perilous times!
54 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 26, 2006 at 9:40 pm
What a maroon:
Rangel: Men Join The Army Only If They Can’t Have A “Decent Career”
55 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 26, 2006 at 9:53 pm
lol
Have you stolen my RSS Feeds!?!
56 camojack // Nov 27, 2006 at 1:09 am
conserve-a-tips:
Cumberland Caverns is a “commercial” cave; I’ve been to a number of those, but have only visited “wild” caves in Tennessee.
Rumbling Falls is one of them, and it has the second largest chamber known in the country.
(After Carlsbad Caverns…)
57 Ms RightWing, Ink // Nov 27, 2006 at 8:31 am
Good Morning!!!
58 RedPepper // Nov 27, 2006 at 9:20 am
#s 53,54: Yes, Charlie’s a piece of work, all right! I was impressed by the way he completely blew off the detailed study Chris Wallace cited - not to mention other factors that were not mentioned, such as spectacular re-enlistment rates.
Charlie’s got his spin down ! Don’t try to confuse him with facts.
59 Maggie // Nov 27, 2006 at 9:25 am
Good Morning Ms Right Wing,and welcome back Camojack.
The computer room/guest room was occupied by family over the long week-end,so I was not able to log onto SF.
It is good to be back at the controls while sipping a cup of coffee and listening to Christmas music.”Grandma Got Runned over by a Raindeer”is softly playing in the background to be followed by the old favorites”All I want for Christmas is my Two Front Teeth” and of course the controversial song “I saw Mama kissing Santa Claus”.
Ain’t life great?
60 Ms RightWing, Ink // Nov 27, 2006 at 10:19 am
Maggie
What ever happened to that Christmas song about a rusted out 57 Chevy? It was popular amongst the red neck part of my family about 15 years ago.
I have sworn off roasted turkey for the rest of the holiday season (though I still have 2 more unpublished Thanksgiving stories). From now on, it’s pig eatin’ time. Yeeehaw
61 Darthmeister // Nov 27, 2006 at 12:12 pm
JL3rd,
We’re obviously getting our marching orders from the evil genuis Karl Rove. You can see the Charlie Rangel rant here. His sweeping generalizations have certainly been blown apart by not on the likes of Chris Wallace but by Scrapplers here who posted about a month ago links to studies on the real demographcis of an all volunteer military. Once such link can be found here.
Rangel is you typical know-nothing, left-wing demagogic blowhard who spews his venom and ignorance when it serves his and the Donk’s anti-American agenda.
62 Darthmeister // Nov 27, 2006 at 12:16 pm
Sheesh, where’s the coffee? on = only … Once = One. You get the drift.
Ms RightWing, when are you shipping out your killer Christmas chocolate chip cookies - C4?
63 RedPepper // Nov 27, 2006 at 2:13 pm
Darthmeister #61: Thanks for the link to the Heritage Foundation research paper. This is the “detailed study” that Chris Wallace cited, as I noted in #58. I checked the Fox News site earlier, but they hadn’t updated their stories about the Sunday show. But hey - Rangel could care less about the actual facts ! Nor does he really care about re-instating the draft, either - he’s already voted against his own proposal once. Like most New York Dems, what he really cares about is a chance to appear “on-camera” …
64 Ms RightWing, Ink // Nov 27, 2006 at 2:53 pm
Darthmeister
Local orders are being processed. Nobody has ordered any via mail yet
65 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 27, 2006 at 3:26 pm
Laura Mansfield shares this article from Pakistan’s Daily Times from which I received a (much needed) dose of hope.
66 Darthmeister // Nov 27, 2006 at 7:38 pm
It appears that “police Captain Jamil Hussein” of “six Iraqis torched” fame is neither a police captain nor works for Iraq’s interior ministry. The story simply can’t be confirmed as well as some of the other stories planted in the western news media by “Capt. Jamil Hussein.”
One again the lamestream media is unwilling to admit it may have been fed a line of bovine scatology by a radical Muslim source or stringer.
67 Darthmeister // Nov 27, 2006 at 10:14 pm
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Dear Associated Press:
On Nov. 24, 2006, your organization published an article by Qais Al-Bashir about six Sunnis being burned alive in the presence of Iraqi Police officers. This news item, which is below, received an enormous amount of coverage internationally.
We at Multi-National Corps - Iraq made it known through MNC-I Press Release Number 20061125-09 and our conversations with your reporters that neither we nor Baghdad Police had any reports of such an incident after investigating it and could find no one to corroborate the story. A couple of hours ago, we learned something else very important. We can tell you definitively that the primary source of this story, police Capt. Jamil Hussein, is not a Baghdad police officer or an MOI employee. We verified this fact with the MOI through the Coalition Police Assistance Training Team.
Also, we definitely know, as we told you several weeks ago through the MNC-I Media Relations cell, that another AP-popular IP spokesman, Lt. Maithem Abdul Razzaq, supposedly of the city’s Yarmouk police station, does not work at that police station and is also not authorized to speak on behalf of the IP. The MOI has supposedly issued a warrant for his questioning…
Unless you have a credible source to corroborate the story of the people being burned alive, we respectfully request that AP issue a retraction, or a correction at a minimum, acknowledging that the source named in the story is not who he claimed he was. MNC-I and MNF-I are always available and willing to verify events and provide as much information as possible when asked.
Very respectfully,
LT XXXXXX
XXXX X XXXXXXXX
Lieutenant, U.S. Navy
MNC-I Joint Operations Center
Public Affairs Officer
And this is the story that has led to some lamestream media outlets to unilaterally declare Iraq’s Islamic sectarian violence is now a “civil war”. Doesn’t this make about the fourth pronouncement of a “civil war” by the liberal media? I’m sure Muslim radicals are more than willing to oblige the western media, particularly after being emboldened by the cut-and-run Democrats gaining the U.S. House and Senate.
68 camojack // Nov 28, 2006 at 3:46 am
…welcome back Camojack
Comment by Maggie — November 27, 2006 @ 9:25 am
Thanks…it’s good to BE back.
69 MargeinMI // Nov 28, 2006 at 5:38 am
Mornin’ all!
Welcome back, Jack!
70 vittles scooper // Nov 28, 2006 at 5:38 am
Ms. Right Wing Inc.’s Christmas song request -
Da Yoopers Lyrics
Rusty Chevrolet Lyrics
C’mon, cmon!
C’mon, you can do it!
(car starts)
All right!
Dashing through the snow
in my Rusty Chevrolet
Down the road I go
Sliding all the way
I need new piston rings
I need some new snow tires
My car is held together
By a piece of chicken wire
CHORUS
Oh, rust and smoke, the heater’s broke
The door just blew away
I light a match to see the dash
And then I start to pray
The frame is bent, the muffler went
The radio, it’s okay
Oh what fun it is to drive
This Rusty Chevrolet
I went to the IGA
To get some Christmas cheer
I just passed up my left front tire
And it’s getting hard to steer
Speeding down the highway
Right past a county cop
I have to drag my swampers
Just to get the car to stop
(chorus)
(instrumental)
Bpuncing through the snowdrifts
In a big blue cloud of smoke
People laugh as I drive by
And I wonder what’s the joke
Got to get to Wal-Mart
To pick up the lay-away
‘Cause Santa Claus is coming soon
In his big old rusty sleigh
(chorus)
71 vittles scooper // Nov 28, 2006 at 5:42 am
For Ms. Right Wing, Inc.’s Song Request:
Da Yoopers Lyrics
Rusty Chevrolet Lyrics
C’mon, cmon!
C’mon, you can do it!
(car starts)
All right!
Dashing through the snow
in my Rusty Chevrolet
Down the road I go
Sliding all the way
I need new piston rings
I need some new snow tires
My car is held together
By a piece of chicken wire
CHORUS
Oh, rust and smoke, the heater’s broke
The door just blew away
I light a match to see the dash
And then I start to pray
The frame is bent, the muffler went
The radio, it’s okay
Oh what fun it is to drive
This Rusty Chevrolet
I went to the IGA
To get some Christmas cheer
I just passed up my left front tire
And it’s getting hard to steer
Speeding down the highway
Right past a county cop
I have to drag my swampers
Just to get the car to stop
(chorus)
(instrumental)
Bpuncing through the snowdrifts
In a big blue cloud of smoke
People laugh as I drive by
And I wonder what’s the joke
Got to get to Wal-Mart
To pick up the lay-away
‘Cause Santa Claus is coming soon
In his big old rusty sleigh
(chorus)
72 MargeinMI // Nov 28, 2006 at 6:07 am
VS: :oD
My personal favorite [cringe], “I wanna Hippopotomus for Christmas.”
73 vittles scooper // Nov 28, 2006 at 6:10 am
P.S.
Rusty Chevy is sung to the tune of Jingle Bells
74 Ms RightWing, Ink // Nov 28, 2006 at 8:18 am
Thaks vittles scooper.
Oh, you brought back such great memories of some family memebers I would love to tie to the rusty bumpers of that Chevy
But, it is Christmas, so I will not feel that way. I am pretty much feeling like I been tied to that bumper after decorating numerous trees here at the bunker.
Seems like with 183 apartments someone else would get the holiday feelings. sigh
75 camojack // Nov 28, 2006 at 8:21 am
Welcome back, Jack!
Comment by MargeinMI — November 28, 2006 @ 5:38 am
Thank you, too. I just emailed you a LINK to the pictures you requested in a comment on MY BLOG about my plans before I went…
76 gafisher // Nov 28, 2006 at 8:28 am
CHICAGO (AP) - A public Christmas festival is no place for the Christmas story, the city says.
Story at http://apnews.myway.com/article/20061128/D8LLRK9O0.html
What’s next? How about January 1st without expressions which might offend those who use other calendars? Memorial Day with no flags to offend those who bravely shot AT us? We surely can’t be far from Independence Day with no independence . . .
77 RedPepper // Nov 28, 2006 at 9:43 am
gafisher: Must be, you didn’t get the memo. It isn’t Christmas any more ! It’s the “Winter Festival” …
78 MargeinMI // Nov 28, 2006 at 9:51 am
camojack, Very cool. Thanks for sharing.
79 Shelly // Nov 28, 2006 at 10:40 am
Good morning, all. I too have been away from Scrappledom for a while, it is good to be back. We rarely go to the movies, as I consider it a waste of money when we can rent the DVD in a few months for a few dollars, but this is one I plan to take the family to. Maybe it’s just me, but a certain baby born 2,000 years ago is certainly relevant to my life. I pray in His name and praise Him every day. Joyfully.
80 MargeinMI // Nov 28, 2006 at 11:12 am
Since it’s a slow day in Scrappletown, I’ll take this opportunity to share:
I had the priviledge to hug a young man in the Air Force the other day. He’s leaving today for Afghanistan to provide holiday relief to active troops there. He’s got a job and place to live in Florida whenever he gets back (or now). He volunteered to go. Bite me Charles Rangle!
Welcome back to you too, Shelly!
81 Darthmeister // Nov 28, 2006 at 12:31 pm
Hey camo, liked your tie-dye shirt!
I see the dye job didn’t anger Cozumel, Chac, Allah’s celestial wife Ixchel or any other Central American deity since you made it back safely … other than a touch of Montezuma’s curse or something.
82 RedPepper // Nov 28, 2006 at 12:38 pm
We’ll always have Paris.
Till they burn it down , anyway …
83 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 28, 2006 at 12:55 pm
RE: #81~~
RedPepper~~
A sentence in that article you cited:
“You can see discrimination in ID controls,” complained Kader Latreche, 36, an Algerian with his own photo equipment repair shop in the La Courneuve suburb.
Why doesn’t he go back to Algeria and whine about Algeria?
This planet is just chock full of itinerant whiners-Mexicans in the United States, for example. It’s just too bizarre. They’ll suck our blood like an insatiable parasite, though, while they give us sidelong looks of disdain and drag our country down with the same malignancy that has decimated their country.
84 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 28, 2006 at 1:04 pm
Well, it looks like we’ve played around too long in Iraq. I find this almost heartbreaking:
Iran Offers to Help Boost Iraqi Security
Talabani and Maliki are spitting in our face.
Talabani said that Iraq’s “top priority” is to expand ties with Iran. “Iraq is in dire need of Iran’s comprehensive assistance to combat terrorism and establish security,” he was quoted as saying.
“Iraq is in dire need of Iran’s comprehensive assistance to combat terrorism…..”!?!
Good grief.
85 conserve-a-tips // Nov 28, 2006 at 1:49 pm
Helloooooooo Scrappleface. I have been scraping the ceilings and I am spitting little white pellets from my lips and shaking the dust from my hair, but just thought that I would drop in to see what condition your condition is in…
It is Christ-mas in my book, no matter what!! No political correctness here. And Marge, please let us know if Chucky does bite you! I would get rabies shots first.
I have found this wonderful site that is free and motivational. I have to lose 25 lbs and so I just happened across this in surfing. It is called Sparkpeople.com and I love it. I have started exercising, planning my menu with their help and I feel like I have a plan. Have lost 2 lbs so far. (just started so don’t say a word).
86 mig // Nov 28, 2006 at 3:00 pm
I am so far behind!
First Happy Belated Birthday to Pat’s Rick.
And for the Mayan/Mexican topic, I thought you might like this link: http://www.unm.edu/~ecdn/map2080ad.htm
Republica Del Norte 2080 A.D.
87 mig // Nov 28, 2006 at 3:11 pm
M*A*S*H was on the tube at work today and I thought to myself- There is Charlie Rangels military. Don’t get me wrong, when I was growing up we used to watch it. I can’t remember if we watched it cuz we liked it or because we only got one TV station and there were no choices. I think I was ambivilant about it but that’s neither here nor there.
It seems when you have a drafted army you get M*A*S*H. A bunch of guys that don’t care much about anything beyond themselves. Alot of drinking, drugs and womanizing. A military that you can mock and make fun of. Laugh about. That would be a win win situation for the libs.
The Military we have at this time is one that we can be very proud of. And that can’t be a winner for the libs. That is something that must chip away at thier ice cold hearts of stone.
“Come on, you sons of bitches! Do you want to live forever?” from 1st Sgt. Dan Daly.
Chip Chip Chip.
88 The Great Santini // Nov 28, 2006 at 3:18 pm
An actual conversation with an office colleague:
He: “Are you coming to the Winter Gathering?”
I: “The what?”
He: “You know…the Winter Gathering, on December 15th.”
I: “Oh…you mean the office Christmas party.”
He: “Well, uh, we can’t call it that.”
I: “Why not?”
He: “Well, you know, because….”
I: “Hey, have a look at the December 25th entry on my calendar. What’s it say?”
He: “Um…’Christmas Day’.”
I: “And so? If we’re celebrating ‘The Season’ with a party, seems to me the name of the party should relate to the season we’re celebrating. Don’t you think so?”
He: “Um, I’m just getting a head-count. I don’t want to get into a political discussion.”
I: “I hate to tell you this, but if you’re soliciting a head-count for a ‘Winter Gathering’, instead of a Christmas party, you’re making a political statement.”
He: “Geez, I gotta go. Are you coming?”
I: “Not to a ‘Winter Gathering’. I’ll reconsider when you ask me to come to the Christmas party. I’m celebrating the latter, not the former. The birth of Jesus has nothing to do with a ‘Winter Gathering’.”
It’s the spirit of the season. Merry Winter Gathering.
[Sigh….]
89 mig // Nov 28, 2006 at 3:23 pm
I also want to make a note that I am in no way denigrading Vietnam Vets. I know that they were NOT M*A*S*H and that it was a Hollywood show. I understand that there were alot of Vietnam soldiers that were there willingly and that all service is service.
I just thought that M*A*S*H was a pretty good indicator of the I don’t want to be here crowd. (I was a kid during Vietnam and only remember the aftermath, observing the wildness of free love and dig it man, don’t bogart that…)
90 woodnwheel // Nov 28, 2006 at 3:29 pm
Sorry to be posting this so late, but going back to the topic of this thread, has anyone noticed that Keisha Castle-Hughes is pregnant (which is why she didn’t appear at the Vatican for the world premiere of “The Nativity Story”)? I heard about it here… Guess that’s just one more reminder that no one is infallible and we all need a Savior…
91 mig // Nov 28, 2006 at 7:09 pm
I have had it clarified that M*A*S*H was the Korean War. But they still mocked the military. And if I couldn’t tell the difference between thier portrayal of the Vietnam War and the Korean War, likely not many others did either, espcially of my generation.
;~)
92 Godfrey // Nov 28, 2006 at 7:52 pm
mig:
The movie version, at least, was definitely a commentary on the Vietnam war- it was only at the studio’s behest that Altman “clarified” (just pre-release) that it took place during the Korean War. Until then he never mentioned which war it was.
93 egospeak // Nov 28, 2006 at 8:03 pm
Anybody seen Scott?
94 Godfrey // Nov 28, 2006 at 8:33 pm
eospeak: last I saw him was yestereve down’t the pub. He knocked back his usual dozen pints o’ bitter and staggered off, cursing the English and singing about a girl named Molly.
Or was that Beerme…
95 egospeak // Nov 28, 2006 at 8:55 pm
Godfrey,
Are you saying that Scott is… is Irish?
Or is that Beerme…..?
Regards,
96 Darthmeister // Nov 28, 2006 at 9:50 pm
Sharia law is spreading in the UK.
And if the liberal multi-culturalists have their way, Muslims will be emboldened to do a little spreading of their Sharia law here in good ol’ US of A within a generation. Don’t think it can happen here, who would have thought references to Jesus or the Christ Child during
the Christmas seasonthe Winter Celebration would be banned. If swing voters don’t wake up in the next two to four years, they’re going to find out what Islamic useful idiots the liberal elite truly can be.97 gafisher // Nov 28, 2006 at 10:15 pm
“Winter Celebration” paaugh; I’ll sing Christmas Carols, decorate a Christmas tree, give Christmas gifts, and above all worship Christ in my Christian church, thanking the God of the Old and New Testaments for sending His Son, Christ Jesus, into the world to bear the cost of my sins.
Nevertheless, we must remember that Jesus was almost certainly NOT born on December 25th or anywhere near it, and that this time of year was selected to coincide with and in time replace the pagan . . . Winter Celebration.
98 Godfrey // Nov 28, 2006 at 11:34 pm
woodnwheel re: #89 - Guess that’s just one more reminder that no one is infallible and we all need a Savior…
Or, like, condoms…
99 camojack // Nov 29, 2006 at 12:32 am
Hey camo, liked your tie-dye shirt!
I see the dye job didn’t anger Cozumel, Chac, Allah’s celestial wife Ixchel or any other Central American deity since you made it back safely … other than a touch of Montezuma’s curse or something.
Comment by Darthmeister — November 28, 2006 @ 12:31 pm
I got that shirt at the Harley dealer in Woodstock, NY…home of the famous concert. The tie-dye seemed appropriate somehow, from the locale…
100 Darthmeister // Nov 29, 2006 at 8:22 am
Godfrey, I remember seeing the original movie M*A*S*H when it was originally released. I never confused it for taking place during the Vietnam War because of the weapons (M-1 Garands instead of M-14s/M-16s) and the “dragonfly” helicopters that were ferrying the wounded.
Also in the television series we were treated to winters that would have never occured in Vietnam and the whole texture of the film just didn’t fit the Vietnam template. But you’re absolutely right, Altman intended it to be a commentary on the Vietnam War and war in general. When you really get down to it, other than the John Wayne movie The Green Berets, virtually all war movies from A Bridge Too Far to Kelly’s Heroes, Blackhawk Down to the excellent We Were Soldiers are by their nature “anti-war” even if the director never intended for that to be the case. I think unless someone is actually involved in the just cause itself against evil, making an entertainment movie of the horrors of war is, well, not very “entertaining”.
However, I’ve found documentaries like Victory at Sea which has little emotional agenda than putting wartime events in their proper historical context are not anti-war … some, in fact, would call it propaganda. Even watching one of the finest War of the Rebellion movies ever made, Gettysburg, can lead to anti-war sentiments despite the noble cause of eliminating slavery and maintaining the union of the several states.
101 Darthmeister // Nov 29, 2006 at 8:28 am
Santini #88, you clearly have the patience of a saint. Some people can never figure it out even when hit multiple times with a clue bat. Your experience demonstrates the raw power of the tyranny of political correctness. Sic Semper Tyrannis.
102 CaNN :: We started it. // Nov 29, 2006 at 10:45 am
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