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1 onlineanalyst // Sep 8, 2009 at 7:20 pm
Apparently there was a Q & A during the president's talk to students. Mark Knoller wonders whether the eight-year-old asking about health care was a plant. (Or did his teacher pre-coach the youngster about questions to ask, I wonder)
http://hotair.com/headlines/?p=51572
2 onlineanalyst // Sep 8, 2009 at 7:20 pm
Apparently there was a Q & A during the president's talk to students. Mark Knoller wonders whether the eight-year-old asking about health care was a plant. (Or did his teacher pre-coach the youngster about questions to ask, I wonder)
http://hotair.com/headlines/?p=51572
3 boberinyetagain // Sep 8, 2009 at 8:35 pm
good grief, did someone actually ask about health care? that'll be the death knell for any hope that this could be seen as encouraging rather than political.
and, I'm guessing he unveiled his overarching plan for a master race today as well. been wondering when that'd finally come up and then when he announced this speech I though for sure it'd be today. guess i'll have to go home and watch the news…they'll mention that if it happened…even if they are "puppets"…wouldn't they?
4 boberinyetagain // Sep 8, 2009 at 8:36 pm
To address your question directly…probably more of a mineral than vegetable (the 8 y/o kid)
5 onlineanalyst // Sep 8, 2009 at 8:45 pm
Responding in hyperbole again? Reducing the observation to the absurd?
Tell me what eight-year-olds you know who are concerned about "universal health care," the kid's own words?
I thought that the point of the "pep talk" was how to succeed in school. But I guess it was nothing more than another staged photo-op and campaign.
For Obamao, "all the world's a stage," and he's the ONLY playuh.
6 boberinyetagain // Sep 8, 2009 at 8:50 pm
Wasn't kidding…that question ruined it…no doubt about it. Changed the whole deal in one fell swoop.
Really, not kidding, hate that the question was asked, can hope it wasn't answered but fear that it was….
7 boberinyetagain // Sep 8, 2009 at 8:52 pm
hope I was kidding about the master race thing too, that's supposed to be a secret…naturally
8 daniel123 // Sep 8, 2009 at 8:58 pm
look what happened when GHW Bush made a similar talk
When Bush spoke to students, Democrats investigated, held hearings
By: Byron York
Chief Political Correspondent
09/08/09 7:11 AM EDT
The controversy over President Obama's speech to the nation's schoolchildren will likely be over shortly after Obama speaks today at Wakefield High School in Arlington, Virginia. But when President George H.W. Bush delivered a similar speech on October 1, 1991, from Alice Deal Junior High School in Washington DC, the controversy was just beginning. Democrats, then the majority party in Congress, not only denounced Bush's speech — they also ordered the General Accounting Office to investigate its production and later summoned top Bush administration officials to Capitol Hill for an extensive hearing on the issue.
Unlike the Obama speech, in 1991 most of the controversy came after, not before, the president's school appearance. The day after Bush spoke, the Washington Post published a front-page story suggesting the speech was carefully staged for the president's political benefit. "The White House turned a Northwest Washington junior high classroom into a television studio and its students into props," the Post reported.
With the Post article in hand, Democrats pounced. "The Department of Education should not be producing paid political advertising for the president, it should be helping us to produce smarter students," said Richard Gephardt, then the House Majority Leader. "And the president should be doing more about education than saying, 'Lights, camera, action.'"
Democrats did not stop with words. Rep. William Ford, then chairman of the House Education and Labor Committee, ordered the General Accounting Office to investigate the cost and legality of Bush's appearance. On October 17, 1991, Ford summoned then-Education Secretary Lamar Alexander and other top Bush administration officials to testify at a hearing devoted to the speech. "The hearing this morning is to really examine the expenditure of $26,750 of the Department of Education funds to produce and televise an appearance by President Bush at Alice Deal Junior High School in Washington, DC," Ford began. "As the chairman of the committee charged with the authorization and implementation of education programs, I am very much interested in the justification, rationale for giving the White House scarce education funds to produce a media event."
Unfortunately for Ford, the General Accounting Office concluded that the Bush administration had not acted improperly. "The speech itself and the use of the department's funds to support it, including the cost of the production contract, appear to be legal," the GAO wrote in a letter to Chairman Ford. "The speech also does not appear to have violated the restrictions on the use of appropriations for publicity and propaganda."
That didn't stop Democratic allies from taking their own shots at Bush. The National Education Association denounced the speech, saying it "cannot endorse a president who spends $26,000 of taxpayers' money on a staged media event at Alice Deal Junior High School in Washington, D.C. — while cutting school lunch funds for our neediest youngsters."
Lost in all the denouncing and investigating was the fact that Bush's speech itself, like Obama's today, was entirely unremarkable. "Block out the kids who think it's not cool to be smart," the president told students. "If someone goofs off today, are they cool? Are they still cool years from now, when they're stuck in a dead end job. Don't let peer pressure stand between you and your dreams.
the negative reaction of us right wing kooks to Obama was much more benign and sympathetic!
9 WhizBang // Sep 8, 2009 at 10:43 pm
Somebody needs to get out there and point out the importance of education and not dropping out of school before graduating. I don't see anyone else around who can get people's attention doing it, including you right wingers who are making a lot of noise about Obama bringing up the subject.
We also need someone of substance to get out there and talk about the importance of eating healthy. We are fast becoming a nation of fat slobs. Just sit in a mall and watch the humungus rear ends or the big fat beer bellies bouncing by. No wonder our health costs are skyrocketing out of sight. And when you see the percentage of this group who are young kids ..
10 onlineanalyst // Sep 8, 2009 at 11:42 pm
Cannot local school districts do the motivating to stay in school and study? Most of them have an assembly at least once a year with a speaker who can relate to the students?
As far as eating healthy is concerned, again health and phys. ed. classes, as well as home ec (Family and Consumer Education) classes address these issues. The latter teach kids not only how to eat healthily but to shop wisely and prepare meals from scratch. Junk foods and fast foods are some of the most uneconomic ways to satisfy hunger. If you teach a youngster in such a class the many ways that there are to prepare a simple item as an egg, for example, the student learns self-reliance, good nutrition, and budget strategies. Why should the federal government take on further nannyism?
Do we need a president to do what a teacher, the school nurse, or a motivational speaker can accomplish in a more personal setting?
11 JamesonLewis3rd // Sep 9, 2009 at 12:21 am
The Pepmeister, BHO, at the end of his Pep Rally Pep Talk before an audience of tens of millions of yawning pre-K thru 12th grade school children, said [I paraphrase], God bless you, God bless America.
God Bless America
12 gafisher // Sep 9, 2009 at 10:03 am
Too bad it was in conjunction with his advice on "What to say if someone near you sneezes."
13 gafisher // Sep 9, 2009 at 10:18 am
The prepared "lesson plans" make it clear Obama did not give the speech which had been planned. The Administration was forced by public opinion to replace its previously prepared and no doubt carefully rehearsed presentation with something more in line with the sentiments of a majority of Americans, a speech which was downright conservative in tone.
This was a lose-lose-lose situation for the fast-failing President. He was prevented from giving the intended indoctrination speech; constrained by pride to replace rather than cancel the event; and found himself instead promoting a good deal of the concept of personal responsibility almost diametrically opposed to his personal and Party politics. Conservatism won this round; Obama is on the ropes and the whole world knows it.
14 boberinyetagain // Sep 9, 2009 at 12:58 pm
on the contrary, the whole world now has a smidgen of respect that was totally lacking for 8 long years. i'll take a smidgen over zero, that's moving in the right direction. We are not operating in a vacuum. the list of things that the world surpasses us in growns longer every day. education is the foundation for moving back towards the light.
So, because the speech was actually a good one, with an apparently "approved" message…it HAD to have been changed eh? Now that's funny!
15 RAM1 // Sep 9, 2009 at 2:17 pm
My burning question to you is, how did you get such a long post to "post" without splitting it up?
BTW, I agree with your post.
16 RAM1 // Sep 9, 2009 at 2:22 pm
Even Obama ADMITTED they changed the speech, but that will never stop left wing kooks from defending ANYTHING and EVERYTHING he does.
Yes, education USED to be a VERY GOOD thing, until the libs took the entire education system over to indoctrinate ALL school children.
17 RAM1 // Sep 9, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Since some people are completely blind about ANYTHING Obama does. Convince us that he IS actually holding his hand over his heart while the National Anthem was playing in the avitar picture of mine.
C'mon, I just want to hear another lame excuse.
18 RAM1 // Sep 9, 2009 at 2:30 pm
You are right that "O" is on the ropes. In fact, my bet is if he cannot cram ObamaCare down our throats, his own party will be trying to get rid of him, or at least marginalize him.
Don't think they don't see he is grabbing more power for the Executive Branch and marginalizing the Legislative one. Even Robt (KKK) Byrd sees that FACT!
19 RAM1 // Sep 9, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Didn't I hear that either Obama's health department or education department was going to instruct citizens the "proper way" to sneeze now?
If you don't comply, homeland security will get involved and call out the ACORN jackboot squad.
20 ChileSerrano // Sep 9, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Warning ! You may be a racist if you are tempted to read this article :
Crying Racism by Tom Bevan.
21 RAM1 // Sep 9, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Good article Chile!
I especially liked the quote from Mary Mitchell, "Although the Obama administration has bent over backward trying to gain the acceptance of distrustful whites, so far it isn't happening."
I somehow missed that, "bending over backward for distrusting whitey". When did that happen?
I DID however see him bend over frontward for that Saudi Prince!
22 RAM1 // Sep 9, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Good article Chile!
I especially liked the quote from Mary Mitchell, "Although the Obama administration has bent over backward trying to gain the acceptance of distrustful whites, so far it isn't happening."
I somehow missed that, "bending over backward for distrusting whitey". When did that happen?
I DID however see him bend over frontward for that Saudi Prince!
23 boberinyetagain // Sep 9, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Ram1, what does holding your hand over your heart signify? I haven't looked it up, wonder if you know w/o looking…just curious…as it seems important to you
24 boberinyetagain // Sep 9, 2009 at 3:26 pm
why on earth would there be "distrustful whites"?
I can see "distrustful people"…but how does the "white" thing figure in?
and why should anyone have to bend at all to prevent distrust. You can earn distrust but to have it coming in seems silly, especially if it's due to what color you/the audience is…
25 RAM1 // Sep 9, 2009 at 3:30 pm
It is called RESPECT for the banner representing ones Country. A banner that brave men have died to protect.
Of course America hating libs like Obama and the sheep that blindly support him wouldn't know about RESPECT for our flag.
26 boberinyetagain // Sep 9, 2009 at 3:31 pm
Ram, not that you'll look or, if you do, like what you see but…
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/anthem.asp
does what it can to help folks like yourself understand…
27 RAM1 // Sep 9, 2009 at 3:33 pm
Ask Mary Mitchell, she was the one who said it. Or don't liberals feel comfortable asking each other questions?
I agree that liberals playing the race card CONSTANTLY DOES seem silly.
28 RAM1 // Sep 9, 2009 at 3:37 pm
I wouldn't believe your left wing slanted "snopes" anymore than I would your left wing slanted "wikipedia" you always use as a "source" for "facts".
29 RAM1 // Sep 9, 2009 at 3:41 pm
The Obama-bots make a habit out of "scrubbing" FACTS and making them look like they were made up.
Sorry bober, it "AIN'T" working!
Anymore than "O's" reworked speech when the light was shined on it.
30 boberinyetagain // Sep 9, 2009 at 3:44 pm
Care for a link to Mr. Bush holding his heart over his stomach? You've seen it, was it a big deal than? Is it a big deal now?
Sheesh, you really love "pomp and circumstance" eh? Do you still tip your hat to the ladies as you pass? I would hope so.
31 boberinyetagain // Sep 9, 2009 at 3:46 pm
and why is it that everything that hints of disagreement with your narrow thinking is labeled as "slanted"?
Isn't it possible that many (dare I say most) people just see things differently, don't share your opinion? That doesn't make their view "slanted" any more than yours…either both views are off kilter or neither is…get over it
32 RAM1 // Sep 9, 2009 at 3:47 pm
Everytime something is said about Obama, you bring it back to Bush.
How old are you anyway?
I guess that is not a fair question seeing as how ALL liberals do the same thing.
33 RAM1 // Sep 9, 2009 at 3:53 pm
Wake me up when your shift ends at your job—OK?
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34 RAM1 // Sep 9, 2009 at 3:53 pm
Wake me up when your shift ends at your "job"—OK?
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35 gafisher // Sep 9, 2009 at 3:55 pm
Well, RAM1, the Health Secretary did a cameo on the proper way to cough. Does that count?
36 gafisher // Sep 9, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Well, RAM1, the Health Secretary did a cameo on the proper way to cough. Does that count?
(Actually, in the photo it looks like she's fending off a vampire. Maybe it's the Death Panel response too.)
37 gafisher // Sep 9, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Education is still a good thing; it's schools which have gone downhill.
38 gafisher // Sep 9, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Matthew 6:21?
(Sorry …)
39 gafisher // Sep 9, 2009 at 4:15 pm
"I DID however see him bend over frontward for that Saudi Prince!"
Just setting an example, I'm sure.
40 WhizBang // Sep 9, 2009 at 4:18 pm
"…left wing kooks from defending ANYTHING and EVERYTHING he does."
Right wing kooks are any different about their views ???
41 RAM1 // Sep 9, 2009 at 4:32 pm
The difference is highlighted pretty well in the CNN video. The CNN co-host says that he doesn't see ANY negative emails from viewers.
WOW, what a shock, CNN viewers don't see any negatives about Obama addressing the kids with his "REVISED" speech.
Maybe it is because few, (if any), people that have any brain function left WATCH CNN? I bet there are few negative comments about Obama on huffinton and moveon.org either. If any make it there, they don't stay too long.
42 RAM1 // Sep 9, 2009 at 4:34 pm
The difference is highlighted pretty well in the CNN video. The CNN co-host says that he doesn't see ANY negative emails from viewers.
WOW, what a shock, CNN viewers don't see any negatives about Obama addressing the kids with his "REVISED" speech.
Maybe it is because few, (if any), people that have any brain function left WATCH CNN? I bet there are few negative comments about Obama on huffinton and moveon.org either. If any make it there, they don't stay too long.
43 MoMadeMeDoIt // Sep 9, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Iran 'moving closer' to nuclear breakout capacity: US
VIENNA — Iran is "moving closer" to nuclear breakout capacity, the point at which it could build an atomic bomb, a top US envoy warned here Wednesday.
Tick . . . tick . . . tick . . .
44 boberinyetagain // Sep 9, 2009 at 4:44 pm
Ram…um….per this comment…
Maybe it is because few, (if any), people that have any brain function left WATCH CNN"
Correct me if I'm wrong (or even if I'm right I'm sure)…but the comment suggest that YOU are watching…I know I'm not/never have…
45 boberinyetagain // Sep 9, 2009 at 4:46 pm
it's at least amusing to watch the only nation that ever used such a weapon and one of the relative few that have them…try to deny others the "right" to have some of their own.
Lead by example or sit down/shut up already. we really do have some nerve
46 boberinyetagain // Sep 9, 2009 at 4:50 pm
I know, I know…we are "good and just"…"all knowing" almost…and we know what's best…for everyone else…so we can't help but tell them about it and beat them silly if they hold an opposing view…it's only right cause God is on our side…He likes us best.
Which is why Muslims control the oil and the oil controls us. All part of God's master plan for American domination…okayyyyy then
47 boberinyetagain // Sep 9, 2009 at 4:56 pm
one that perhaps we'd better become accustomed to…is that what you're saying? I agree
48 NurMahal // Sep 9, 2009 at 5:17 pm
If you plan on listening to Obama's latest sales pitch tonight, keep this in mind —
Listening to a Liar .
The most important thing about what anyone says are not the words themselves but the credibility of the person who says them.
The words of convicted swindler Bernie Madoff were apparently quite convincing to many people who were regarded as knowledgeable and sophisticated. If you go by words, you can be led into anything.
49 gafisher // Sep 9, 2009 at 5:21 pm
"The CNN co-host says that he doesn't see ANY negative emails from viewers."
I recall a meeting at which the Chairman, ignoring a forest of raised hands, tried to declare a controversial issue approved with the words "Hearing no opposition …" Oh, yeah, he heard it all right. Then there were the Congressional Democrats who tried to ignore the storm of negative reactions from the public in their so-called "Town Hall" meetings, and the AARP leaders to whom dissenting members were invisible (just before tens of thousands of them vanished for real — from the rolls). Just because a CNN host doesn't see negative emails doesn't mean they're not there.
50 gafisher // Sep 9, 2009 at 5:29 pm
Mustn't engage in profiling, M³DI — just because a hostile government which has promised to nuke a neighboring country has a nuke, doesn't mean they intend to do anything antisocial with it. But
onceif they do, we'll be on it as quick as you can say al-Megrahi.51 Upnorthlurkin // Sep 9, 2009 at 5:57 pm
Bob probably thinks the jihadists will stop and ask if he's a believer before they behead him… I think they hate everyone in the west….oh wait….they love us now…and he says they finally respect us…. Thanks, but no thanks…not buying it.
52 Upnorthlurkin // Sep 9, 2009 at 6:01 pm
Was that supposed to be a link to Thomas Sowell's article? He is wonderful isn't he?
53 Upnorthlurkin // Sep 9, 2009 at 6:03 pm
<a ref="http://townhall.com/columnists/ThomasSowell/2009/09/08/listening_to_a_liar"> this will get you to Dr. Sowell's article Listening To A Liar.
54 Upnorthlurkin // Sep 9, 2009 at 6:04 pm
this will get you to Dr. Sowell's article Listening To A Liar.
55 boberinyetagain // Sep 9, 2009 at 6:15 pm
I'll freely admit that not one second of any day of my life so far has been spent in fear of being beheaded…really not a consideration…by Jihadists or anyone else for that matter.
And, if it were to happen then I'd have little choice but to chalk it up to "God's will"…now would I?
56 boberinyetagain // Sep 9, 2009 at 6:17 pm
-3? Is that the best you have people? A minus 3? C'mon now, put your jr. high scool minds behind the effort…I'm sure you can get me to -5…if you apply yourselves
57 ChileSerrano // Sep 9, 2009 at 6:23 pm
Spin alert …
Watch How the Media Spins Obama's Speech.
The media is itching to write a comeback story after what was, by all accounts, a rotten summer for the Democrats. They'll want to say that the president has "found his voice," "reclaimed the issue," "reenergized the debate".
58 gafisher // Sep 9, 2009 at 6:28 pm
Yep, definite evidence of love and respect there.
59 boberinyetagain // Sep 9, 2009 at 6:32 pm
my reply to myself got deleted? how very odd!
60 MoMadeMeDoIt // Sep 9, 2009 at 6:54 pm
Muslims Widely Seen as Facing Discrimination .
Eight years after the terrorist attacks of 9/11, Americans see Muslims as facing more discrimination inside the U.S. than other major religious groups. Nearly six-in-ten adults (58%) say that Muslims are subject to a lot of discrimination, far more than say the same about Jews, evangelical Christians, atheists or Mormons.
But . . .
Fewer Americans see Islam as violent, poll finds .
Thirty-eight percent of those polled believed Islam was more likely than other faiths to encourage violence, down from the 45 percent who held this view two years earlier.
So, what could be the problem ? Why the negative image of Islam ? Must be those right-wingers tarring the image of The Religion of Peace ! Right ?
61 MoMadeMeDoIt // Sep 9, 2009 at 6:54 pm
Afghan Husbands Win Right to Starve Wives .
When the law was first approved, President Barack Obama called it “abhorrent,” but has not yet responded to reports that it has now been revised and put into effect . . .
But . . . but . . . ! ! !
62 NurMahal // Sep 9, 2009 at 7:10 pm
Yes, that was the article I was trying to link to. I'm not sure how I managed to mess up the link. I usually check links after I post them, but this time I didn't -
63 NurMahal // Sep 9, 2009 at 7:13 pm
Thank you for posting a correct link. And thanks also for noticing the problem.
64 boberinyetagain // Sep 9, 2009 at 3:44 pm
Thanks Ram…”America hating libs like Obama ”
Is it safe to assume I’m held in the same high regard?
Jr. High school, right here on the web. You are on to something Scott…Ram can be the school bully…but I don’t have any lunch money, I packed my lunch (mom helped)
65 boberinyetagain // Sep 9, 2009 at 3:54 pm
I hope Ram likes roast beef and cheese (domestic swiss) with lettuce, otherwise he’s going to beat me up or at the very least, call me names…
Intense Debate dead?
66 ChileSerrano // Sep 9, 2009 at 8:01 pm
Barack … better warm up the Teleprompter …
Obama disapproval on health care up to 52 percent
The same survey shows that 49 percent now disapprove of his overall performance as president. In July, just 42 percent disapproved of how he was handling his job.
C'mon! Why are you still working on your speech? You said that you had a plan already!
67 Upnorthlurkin // Sep 9, 2009 at 8:13 pm
Our good friends' son was one of the casualties. Yeah, maybe one's perspective is a bit different if terrorism hits close to home…or maybe the "we deserve it" crowd is just sick.
68 onlineanalyst // Sep 9, 2009 at 10:16 pm
I guess that if any mucus escapes from her nose at the same time, Sibelius's sleeve is handy as a handkerchief.
69 onlineanalyst // Sep 9, 2009 at 10:34 pm
He hasn't gotten past, "Let me be perfectly clear… as I've always said, wash your hands."
70 onlineanalyst // Sep 9, 2009 at 10:44 pm
Congress is waking up (just in time to fall asleep for Obamao's speech tonight). A Dem Rep joins the chorus against the Executive Branch's use of czars, unvetted and answerable to no one but the Prez for their budgets.
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/09/dem-rep-tim...
How much of the 30 billion did Van Jones spend, and how did he allocate those funds?
71 JamesonLewis3rd // Sep 9, 2009 at 10:56 pm
Synopsis of tonight's historic speech: Conservatives want Americans to die.
72 onlineanalyst // Sep 9, 2009 at 11:19 pm
Jim Geraghty offers "Obama Speech Bingo" for those who have been there, heard that"
http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NW...
73 EgoSpeak // Sep 9, 2009 at 11:36 pm
The fact that you don't seem to realize that both people you're looking for (importance of education person and importance of eating healthy person) were once called parents suggests that the longtime and ongoing liberal (leftist) effort to dumbdown our educational system is succeeding beyond their fondest hopes.
Expect more of the same if the dems manage to pass national health care. I can hear their rallying cry already, "Let's do for our health care system what we've already done for our education system!!!" And the lickspittles in the sycophant media and ignorant teeming masses will weep with joy at the very thought. God help us all.
Regards,
74 JamesonLewis3rd // Sep 9, 2009 at 11:40 pm
Sarah PalinM/a> put up a short response to BHO's historic speech on Facebook. This is the best part:
75 JamesonLewis3rd // Sep 9, 2009 at 11:40 pm
Sarah Palin put up a short response to BHO's historic speech on Facebook. This is the best part:
76 onlineanalyst // Sep 10, 2009 at 12:01 am
ya2daup offers these gems (from I don't know what source):Top 10 things for The Precedent to do if the teleprompter breaks…
10. Fire up for all to hear his copy of the iPod with his speeches on it that he presented to Queen Elizabeth
9. Read the his back-to-school essay, “How I spent my summmer vacations”
8. Recite the names of all his czars and czarinas from memory
7. Dim the House lights and perform shadow puppets
6. Challenge Harry Reid to recite names the states in which ACORN has been indicted
5. By a show of hands, poll the audience to see who’s leaving his Administration next to get a firm betting line established for oddsmakers in Vegas
4. Ask Botox Nan to led the audience in a sing-a-long of patriotic songs
3. Turn the mike over to Lunchpail Joe Biden, who’ll proceed to regale the audience with his extensive repertoire of malapropisms and gaffes
2. Perform his favorite show tunes’ duets with Michelle
1. Start the parade of unicorns! Cue the skittles drop!
77 RAM1 // Sep 10, 2009 at 2:43 am
It depends on what that "EDUCATION" that is being given is, wouldn't it?
When my granddaughter opens a science book and the first few words STATE AS FACT, "millions of years ago" when I have taught my children the Earth is only about 6,000 years old, I do NOT call that "EDUCATION", I call that INDOCTRINATION!
AND, that is only one of MANY< MANY examples!
78 RAM1 // Sep 10, 2009 at 2:48 am
Thanks gafisher, you are exactly right. It was a cough not a sneeze but, maybe that is next along with them telling us how to do, (or NOT do), other body functions?
79 onlineanalyst // Sep 10, 2009 at 2:49 am
Henninger bluntly tells Obamao, "It's the economy, stupid!"
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203...
Nobody with any common sense wants more government spending, more debt, and potential inflation…especially for a false "crisis" and a pack of intrusive, ill-conceived Big Government Sham Wow.
80 RAM1 // Sep 10, 2009 at 3:05 am
OLA: How about adding, #11. All the things I read on my summer vacation, (the most RECENT summer vacation, that is).
Looking at the list of fiction tripe he supposedly read, you would have thought there would be some time for the "tripe" ObamaCare fairy tale bill his girl friend Pelousy wrote?
GOD forbid Obama should ever crack open the HOLY BIBLE!!!
81 RAM1 // Sep 10, 2009 at 3:10 am
I can hardly wait to hear the trolls tomorrow tell what a wonderful speech their "messiah" gave to Congress.
My bet is that PARTISAN speech, (that was filled with fear mongering and flat out lies), will drop his approval ratings even lower, close to what we see the trolls here have.
82 RAM1 // Sep 10, 2009 at 3:11 am
I can hardly wait to hear the trolls tomorrow tell what a wonderful speech their "messiah" gave to Congress.
My bet is that PARTISAN speech, (that was filled with fear mongering and flat out lies), will drop his approval ratings even lower, close to what we see the trolls here have.
83 RAM1 // Sep 10, 2009 at 3:40 am
OLA: Careful or you will give Obama an idea. To hire "Vince" to sell his scamCARE program. It is too late to get Billy Mays. Too bad because he, (Obama), could exploit the idea that if America had "ObamaCare", Mays might still be with us.
84 JamesonLewis3rd // Sep 10, 2009 at 11:19 am
The historic hate speech last night was even less than I expected.
I was impressed, however, with the way BHO threatened to call me out. I say, bring it on.
85 boberinyetagain // Sep 10, 2009 at 12:37 pm
You beleive the 6000 y/o thing, don't you? That shows that you are a man of convictions…no doubt there!
86 boberinyetagain // Sep 10, 2009 at 12:44 pm
Did you folks hear that wonderful speech our "messiah" gave to Congress last night?
Feel better now?
87 boberinyetagain // Sep 10, 2009 at 12:45 pm
Tough guy eh? Good for you! Don't take any guff…stand up and be counted. 1….
88 WhizBang // Sep 10, 2009 at 1:00 pm
What you are going to hear this 'troll' say, is that it is a pretty sad state of affairs in our country when the hatemongering shows its ugly head inside Congress when a President is making an address.
The level of disrespect in this country is really reaching into the depths.
89 onlineanalyst // Sep 10, 2009 at 1:08 pm
Identifying Obamao's latest cooked numbers as a lie is "hatemongering"? What alternative universe do you live in? Your faux outrage is telling.
Do you recall the boos that W's adversaires called out when he addressed a joint session of Congress re revamping the near-to-collapsing Social Security Ponzi scheme?
90 boberinyetagain // Sep 10, 2009 at 1:23 pm
I'd hope that those folks would be free to express any opinion they feel contributes to the discussion. If the pres was lying then it was an approriate call. If he isn't (I don't think he was) then it's really just kinda rude eh?
91 boberinyetagain // Sep 10, 2009 at 1:26 pm
When he wanted to "privatize" it? Those were appropriate "boos"
As bad as it is now it's be 10 times worse off if we had invested it in the market…I know my 401k isn't looking too good right now…gazing fondly at SS now…
92 JamesonLewis3rd // Sep 10, 2009 at 3:05 pm
The Associated Press, organ of the Democrat party, found seven lies in BHO's speech—just for starters.
93 ChileSerrano // Sep 10, 2009 at 3:11 pm
“The level of disrespect in this country is really reaching into the depths.”
It's Bush's fault …
94 boberinyetagain // Sep 10, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Nah, this one is on Cheyney…need to switch things up once in a while!
95 boberinyetagain // Sep 10, 2009 at 3:27 pm
JL3, I assume that you dismiss the article out of hand because it's written by the "liberal main stream media" that adores Obama and his every move.
However, if it's as it seems…that you agree…then be prepared to accept as "proof" other AP articles reporting other "news".
Fair enough?
96 ChileSerrano // Sep 10, 2009 at 3:59 pm
“Instead of honest debate, we have seen scare tactics.” ~ Barack Obama (9-9-2009)
“Everyone in this room knows what will happen if we do nothing. Our deficit will grow. More families will go bankrupt. More businesses will close. More Americans will lose their coverage when they are sick and need it most. And more will die as a result.” ~ Barack Obama (9-9-2009)
Go look in the mirror, Barack …
97 MoMadeMeDoIt // Sep 10, 2009 at 4:55 pm
Why do people continue to talk about the "Obama plan"? Until there are specific proposals on a sheet of paper (more like many many many sheets of paper) that can be analysed, fact-checked, cost-projected by the CBO etc., it isn't a plan, it's a wish list — a sales pitch — a campaign speech. Which, BTW, is why Obama has never submitted legislative proposals to Congress. It's called "plausible deniability".
Oh, no, my plan won't pay for abortion!
What plan? Where is the language - in a proposed bill - that does what you claim? Oh, no, we don't write bills! The Congress will write the bill —
What will my plan mean to you? My plan will mean lots & lots & lots of cake, and ice cream, and chocolate candy — and it will all be FREE! FREE! FREE! How, you ask ? ! ? Don't you trust me ? ! ? Didn't I just say so ?
98 onlineanalyst // Sep 10, 2009 at 5:24 pm
Powerlineblog's John Hinderaker does a nice job fisking the oily claims, half-truths, and outright lies in Obamao's speech to the joint session of Congress:
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2009/09/024...
BTW Joe Wilson was correct in calling out Obamao's statement about coverage for illegals a lie. While he may not have followed the protocols of parliamentary procedure, he did apologize. Obamao, however, claimed that opposition to the bill under discussion- HR3200, although it's anyone's guess what it is since the features change from hour to hour-is "a lie." As president, he, too should be held to protocols of pariamentary procedure. He may have the bully pulpit, but that does not permit him to act like a bully.
99 Upnorthlurkin // Sep 10, 2009 at 5:28 pm
The colorization on my copy of Pinnochio must be way off…I couldn't tell the puppet was (half) black….
100 Upnorthlurkin // Sep 10, 2009 at 5:43 pm
JL3, only 7?! I stopped counting at 20…. though I wonder if the OP guy still has his job today?! (And yes, I know it's ap…)
101 Upnorthlurkin // Sep 10, 2009 at 5:46 pm
JL3, only 7?! I stopped counting at 20…. though I wonder if the OP guy still has his job today?! (And yes, I know it's ap…) It really helped to have read Dr. Sowell's column before the Obey-me con job. Maybe before his next lie-a-thon, he should read the bill?!
102 MoMadeMeDoIt // Sep 10, 2009 at 7:18 pm
Why do we continue to talk about the "Obama plan"? Until there are specific proposals on a sheet of paper (or many many many sheets of paper) that can be analysed, fact-checked, cost-projected by the CBO etc., it isn't a plan, it's a wish list — a sales pitch — a campaign speech. Which is why Obama has never submitted legislative proposals to Congress. It's called "plausible deniability".
Oh, no, my plan won't pay for abortion!
What plan? Where is the language – in a proposed bill – that specifically excludes payment for abortions? Oh, no, we don't write bills! Congress writes the bill —
What will my plan mean to you? My plan will mean lots & lots & lots of cake, and ice cream, and chocolate candy — and it will all be FREE! FREE! FREE! How, you ask ? ! ? Don't you trust me ? ! ? Didn't I just say so ?
103 Upnorthlurkin // Sep 10, 2009 at 7:28 pm
Attempt number 2…why are my replies to Chile disappearing?! There wasn't one personal attack or profanity….I did however compare last night's speechreader to Pinocchio…Is there a Disney bias here?! Or, maybe because I edited after I hit submit?! Just where do our comments go when you choose the "save" option?!
104 boberinyetagain // Sep 10, 2009 at 7:42 pm
If it's free, it's for me! I'm in!
105 RAM1 // Sep 10, 2009 at 7:44 pm
I believe the WHOLE Bible, even the part where there is hope that ALL, (even you), can be Saved!
I do find it terribly sad that you can be so believeing of a mere man, (Obama), and NOT in the ONLY GOD/MAN who can save you from an eternity in hell.
106 RAM1 // Sep 10, 2009 at 7:58 pm
Yes mo, free, free, free, right up until those back wheels of the bus we ALL have been thrown under by Obama, roll over us.____It will be much sadder for the Obama-bots when they FINALLY realize Obama cares for them just like he cares for the rest of us!
107 RAM1 // Sep 10, 2009 at 7:59 pm
Yes mo, free, free, free, right up until those back wheels of the bus we ALL have been thrown under by Obama, roll over us. It will be much sadder for the Obama-bots when they FINALLY realize Obama cares for them just like he cares for the rest of us!
108 RAM1 // Sep 10, 2009 at 8:00 pm
If you ask me, during last night's "rhetoric" from Barry, I think he acted "stupidly". lol
109 Upnorthlurkin // Sep 10, 2009 at 8:27 pm
More fuzzy math…I see where HR3200 calls for 53 new agencies, boards, committees, and on and on…..oh wait! I bet these are some of the new stimulus jobs Obey-me and the Joker created!
110 boberinyetagain // Sep 10, 2009 at 8:39 pm
I knew I could count on you folks! Someone gave me a "thumbs down" on my observation that perhaps we as a group could do more to support Scott's campaign.
Very thoughtful, that move…very thoughful/considerate
111 boberinyetagain // Sep 10, 2009 at 8:47 pm
Which verse conveys the age of the planet pray tell. I missed that one.
112 gafisher // Sep 10, 2009 at 8:51 pm
I think we agree, RAM1, in that we both hold the word "Education" to the high standard of "the imparting of knowledge." What welfare schools offer today is heavily biased toward a mix of amusement, indoctrination, and outright untruth.
Regarding your example, nothing and nobody has yet proved that anything in the Bible as it was written is untrue, and I believe that spotless record will stand until the end.
113 boberinyetagain // Sep 10, 2009 at 8:58 pm
Ga, are you backing the 6000 y/o theory? Be honest
114 RAM1 // Sep 10, 2009 at 8:58 pm
If GOD had made everything as simple as YOU want it, (reduced to a single verse), there would be no need to study the Bible, HIS Word.
I am sure you KNOW that already, and are being a "stumbling block" as GOD warned us of'
While you SEEM hopeless, GOD says no one is UNTIL they die in their rejection to accept Jesus FREE GIFT.
Don't spent ETERNITY in torment, PLEASE!
115 onlineanalyst // Sep 10, 2009 at 8:59 pm
Don't worry, boberin, I counter-balanced that vote. I see that you are one of the good guys supporting Scott's campaign.
Come on, Scrapplers. Let's make Scott's campaign chest grow!
116 gafisher // Sep 10, 2009 at 9:00 pm
Both are true, UNL, and related — what could be sicker than to think an attack on one's neighbors, one's fellow citizens, isn't "close to home." Terrorism seldom targets an individual; the WTC attack, the Lockerbie bombing, and all the rest were aimed as surely at you and me — and even Bober — as at those who were killed.
117 RAM1 // Sep 10, 2009 at 9:03 pm
Thank you gafisher!
As I told boberin, it is a tragedy that he and his side will "trust" Obama/Democrats, yet NOT trust the ONLY Person/GOD who can cast them into hell o, BY GRACE, admit them to Heaven!
boberin's "bio" that says, "thinks everyone, everywhere deserves the benefit of the doubt for just about anything" does NOT include GOD, Jesus, or MOST of us!
So I guess he has "that" in common with "O"!
118 RAM1 // Sep 10, 2009 at 9:04 pm
Thank you gafisher!
As I told boberin, it is a tragedy that he and his side will "trust" Obama/Democrats, yet NOT trust the ONLY Person/GOD who can cast them into hell or, BY GRACE, admit them to Heaven!
boberin's "bio" that says, "thinks everyone, everywhere deserves the benefit of the doubt for just about anything" does NOT include GOD, Jesus, or MOST of us!
So I guess he has "that" in common with "O"!
119 gafisher // Sep 10, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Bober, if you stumbled into quicksand and barely got out alive, would you consider putting up a fence around it, or would you humbly refuse to think you knew better than the next hapless traveler and just let him find out on his own?
120 RAM1 // Sep 10, 2009 at 9:07 pm
To play your game, which paragraph of Obama's healthcare bill says it will NOT fund abortions?
It is MUCH shorter than the Bible so, I'll wait.
121 gafisher // Sep 10, 2009 at 9:19 pm
The two polls are in agreement, M³DI, which is no surprise considering that both poll the same population and identify the same sentiment. Neither result is based on any measurement of crimes committed either toward or by the subject group; rather, in both cases, all they (and we) have to go on are the opinions of people who are apparently not even in the subject group.
In reality, the first poll doesn't report on a negative image of Islam, but of the respondents' negative image of other Americans, while the second reports on the respondents' positive image of themselves.
122 gafisher // Sep 10, 2009 at 9:27 pm
Thumbs-up from me, Bober. When you're right, you're right.
123 Upnorthlurkin // Sep 10, 2009 at 9:37 pm
Exactly! Even the Europeans (who are the very snobs these miscreants want to love us) were saying, "we're all Americans now"!!
124 WhizBang // Sep 10, 2009 at 9:40 pm
ChileSerrano - George Bush had nothing to do with the decreasing level of respect !!!
125 boberinyetagain // Sep 10, 2009 at 8:42 pm
I don't see the "recent donor" list for Scotts campaign (under his picture at the top) changing/getting longer people. Do you want good government or not? It has to start somewhere…I'd think you all would be lining up to help Mr. Ott.
Let's get with it people!
Go ahead, hit the "-" button on this one
Oooh, goody, someone already gave this comment a "thumbs down'. Very good
126 SGT_USMC_1ea // Sep 11, 2009 at 1:17 am
I actually overcame my ambivelance gave boberin a thumbs up myself for certain of his self-serving comments.
I want to move to South Carolina so I can vote for "YOU LIE" guy. Sorry Scott, after my last winter in cruddy Boston, Taxachussets I have developed an eye problem keeping me from moving to Pennsylvania….I just can't see moving there!
Deus est Semper Fidelis
127 onlineanalyst // Sep 11, 2009 at 2:39 am
I don't know if this link will show up, but this photo slide show of "Cardboard Obama" is a hoot. My favorite is "Obama Solves the World's Problems".
http://s810.photobucket.com/albums/zz24/NoMoBama/...
128 JamesonLewis3rd // Sep 11, 2009 at 11:29 am
God Bless America
129 gafisher // Sep 14, 2009 at 12:57 am
Of course this was years ago and things may not be the same as back in the old days, but when I went to school I was assigned to a team of advisers who seemed to work ceaselessly both to motivate me and to ensure I ate properly and practiced good hygiene. As I recall, most, maybe even all, of the kids I went to school with had much the same support. I can't think of any reason why the current Administration doesn't try to revive this somewhat old-fashioned by effective system — why, most of these teams even met the standards for gender diversity!
I remember them well — in fact, one still checks up on me from time to time. I always called her "Mom" and still respect both her and her partner, since deceased, whom I called "Dad."
130 gafisher // Sep 14, 2009 at 10:14 am
I was being honest, Bober.
131 gafisher // Sep 14, 2009 at 10:22 am
I don't speak much Chicagolian, but if infanticide was commendable when Obama favored it in one of his few actual votes, his use of "abhorrent" may well be a positive assessment.
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