(2008-11-13) — Claiming that the hectic pace of his work in the U.S. Senate has taken its toll, Barack Obama announced today he would resign his senate seat effective Sunday, and take a couple of months off to relax and finish a tell-all memoir.
“Like most hard-working Americans, you get to a point where you just need some ‘me time’,” said the 47-year-old Illinois Democrat. “Writing gives me that relief from the stress, and frankly, the exhaustion brought on by my periodic exertions as a lawmaker.”
According to a news release from the publisher, the memoir entitled 143 Days That Shaped a Nation: The Senate Career of Barack Obama, “is third in a series of biennial Obama memoirs and promises a behind-the-scenes look at the inner workings of the senate from an outsider’s perspective, along with personal anecdotes about senate colleagues whom Sen. Obama occasionally met, or heard about.”
“When you have served as long as I have,” said Mr. Obama, “I think you have an obligation to pass on some of that wisdom that comes from your experience for the benefit of the people of the world.”
Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich must now choose a replacement who has experience comparable with Sen. Obama’s — a daunting task, the governor said, “when you realize that whomever I pick as junior senator might be just one great speech away from the Democrat presidential nomination.”
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1 boberinyetagain // Nov 13, 2008 at 5:42 pm
He needs a break. A nice hot bath and a long nap seem like a fine plan.
Funny Scott (as always)
2 Mr.Director // Nov 13, 2008 at 5:43 pm
“Whomever I choose” Gov. Rod Blagojevich continued, “he must have the courage of his convictions to vote ‘present’ whenever his conscience allows it.”
3 gafisher // Nov 13, 2008 at 5:47 pm
There’s talk of making the series into a graphic novel.
4 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 13, 2008 at 5:54 pm
“…..from an outsider’s perspective…..” says it all.
5 Fausta’s Blog » Blog Archive » Thursday afternoon political humor: Scrappleface, Dennis Miller, and widgets // Nov 13, 2008 at 6:10 pm
[...] will resign Senate seat Sunday, so Scrappleface has the background story: Obama Resigns Senate Seat to Write Memoir According to a news release from the publisher, the memoir entitled 143 Days That Shaped a Nation: [...]
6 regcheck // Nov 13, 2008 at 6:16 pm
Scott,
It’s “biennial” memoirs, not “biannual.” We would die if had to suffer two of them each year.
[Editor's Note: Thanks for the correction.]
7 upnorthlurkin // Nov 13, 2008 at 6:20 pm
That would be his third work of fiction wouldn’t it?!
8 Possumtrot // Nov 13, 2008 at 6:22 pm
Did this man ever do an honest day’s labor in his life? I’m coming from the perspective of buying a single gray pinstriped suit off the rack at Sears or Rich’s. We wear them for funerals, weddings, and all stops in between.
Obama was running for president since he hit the Senate, and his previous “job” as “community organizer” strikes my blue-collar self as a sinecure where one displays a finely-tailored suit while bloviating about the need to “help the poor”, who could eat for a year off of what that suit costs.
One of things that has always endeared George W. to me, despite his mistakes, is his continual use of the phrase “hard work.” He may be a child of money and privilege, but I suspect he shoveled out the barns in Texas back in the day, and hasn’t forgotten what stinky work sweat smells like.
I swear, I’m trying to give the new president a chance. Despite the historical precedent, he ain’t making this easy.
There is a wrap-up on politics and some personal news over at United Possums International.
I lived to see a true Internet miracle today. The son of Dad’s jeep driver read my recounting of their war story, and contacted me via e-mail. Who woulda thunk it? After all these decades, I hear from the family of that foggy morning’s other hero. Not to be too shameless, but if you look in the 2007 archives at United Possums International, you’ll find a tale of the Battle of the Bulge on 22 December 44.
9 theporche // Nov 13, 2008 at 6:31 pm
If they count his campaign time they could make it into a mini-series.
10 mig // Nov 13, 2008 at 6:49 pm
I’ll wait for the movie.
11 gafisher // Nov 13, 2008 at 8:55 pm
mig Re#10: They’ve already filmed the closing; now all that’s needed is enough material for the other 9:20.
12 Fred Sinclair // Nov 13, 2008 at 9:24 pm
From “The Media Research Center”
Barack Obama’s transition team has tapped Henry Rivera as the
new FCC transition czar. A longtime radical leftist, lawyer and
former FCC commissioner, Rivera strongly supports the so-called
“Fairness Doctrine” and could become the “angel of death” to
conservative talk radio by supporting liberal leadership in a
move to quickly reinstate it.
According to MRC’s Media Reality Check “It’s another troubling
sign that Democrats are serious about trying to reinstate the
long-defunct FCC regulation, which can more aptly be described
as the “Censorship Doctrine” because of its chilling effect on
free speech.” Read the complete story by clicking here:
http://www.mrcaction.org/r.asp?u=13257&RID=17043313
++ Conservative Talk Under Siege
I’m wondering if the ‘fairness doctrine’ is reinstated, could it have unintended consequences for the liberals?
When some blatantly biased liberal newscast is aired on T.V. couldn’t conservatives use the fairness doctrine to demand equal time on the air to represent an opposing viewpoint? Wouldn’t the Station be forced to provide the free equal time space?
I doubt that it can only be applied to A.M. Talk radio and not include T.V. (that would take the fairness out of the fairness doctrine.
But I imagine that Rush has enough $$$ to mount an aggressive counterpoint to the liberal’s scheme. With his $400m 8 year contract I doubt he’ll walk away quietly.
13 gafisher // Nov 13, 2008 at 9:28 pm
I wonder if anyone will point out that
14 mindknumbed kid // Nov 13, 2008 at 10:14 pm
I do believe that there are a lot of folks out there who believe that when Barack Obama says, “yes we can”, it means that we can live outside of God’s laws and not pay any price for doing so. If this man does not have a “road to Damascus” experience we can write this country off. We will never again see the America that once lived by the motto “in God we trust”.
I say this as a realist, not a pessimist. When a “Christian” religion accepts homosexuality as an acceptable “lifestyle”, God does not take the matter lightly. The role of religious leaders is to declare the truths of God to the people so that they will avoid eternal condemnation. Anyone who is negligent in his duties as a minister of the gospel, or that intentionally perverts it is placing themselves in the worst of situations imaginable. They have an obligation to warn their people that “it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment”, and they will be held accountable for teaching false doctrines. Such religion is “salt that lost his savour” it is not worth anything, for by it men are condemned to Hell.
There is no sign that America is rejecting these false prophets. Instead we see them hungering for further perversion of eternal truths, and although it may please Mr. Wright to watch as America enters into damnation, it tears at the souls of all who love the LORD their God with all their heart, and with all their soul, and with all their might.
If it doesn’t bother you, then you might want to reevaluate your relationship with the Holy One.
I would suggest to the Governor, that when searching for someone to fill his vacant Senate seat, he find someone who is willing to acknowledge that, no, we cannot…but God can.
15 mindknumbed kid // Nov 13, 2008 at 10:17 pm
And a belated welcome back to you Fred, praise God for what he has done in and through you.
16 mindknumbed kid // Nov 13, 2008 at 10:29 pm
Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD; and the people whom he hath chosen for his own inheritance.
For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
17 RepublicanAttackMachine // Nov 13, 2008 at 10:30 pm
“Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich, must now choose a replacement who has experience comparable with Sen. Obama’s — a daunting task-”
If Al Franken cannot steal the Minn “gig” from Coleman, (and they can wait that long), “OWL” can move to Ill, and be a perfect fit for “The Windy City”!
“OWL” Franken has much the same “experience” as O’Bama.
Wait, -what am I thinking?
Oprah ALREADY lives there!
18 mindknumbed kid // Nov 13, 2008 at 10:34 pm
Are we fervently praying for our nation and its leadership?
Have we absolute faith in our God?
At this hour America is being tried.
19 RepublicanAttackMachine // Nov 13, 2008 at 10:36 pm
Fred re#12, In a “rational world”, I would agree about the “fairness doctrine” going both ways, (not meant as a pun), but with liberals “proving” that abortion on demand, separation of Church abd State, and gay marriage being in the Constitution, they probably will have “proof” that the “fairness” is only for libs!
20 mindknumbed kid // Nov 13, 2008 at 10:52 pm
No need for opposing views of the “liberal masses” they will not consider for one minute that their views are wrong, so why allow the conservatives air time to spread lies and distortions of their truth?
21 mindknumbed kid // Nov 13, 2008 at 11:09 pm
Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.
Are you satisfied, or do you thirst for something?
22 mindknumbed kid // Nov 13, 2008 at 11:23 pm
In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.
23 camojack // Nov 13, 2008 at 11:27 pm
“…third in a series of biennial Obama memoirs”.
Heh. I’m thinking he’s out of the memoir business for a while…
24 Ms RightWing, Ink // Nov 13, 2008 at 11:58 pm
Maybe the Big OB1 will retire to his ranch for a season, split wood, and ride about on his horse.
Wrong
25 J. Cougar Melancholy // Nov 14, 2008 at 12:15 am
RAMMSTEIN (re. 19)
I’m all for the “fairiness doctrine”. Promoting rights for fairies all over this great land of ours. Come on California! Let ‘em marry!
I know, I know, it was Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.
BTW, the “pregnant man” is preggers again.
26 boberinyetagain // Nov 14, 2008 at 10:59 am
Wow, most hear appear to see/be predicting the “end of days” when most of the country and the world as well sees….brace yourselves….
HOPE! hope like it’s never been seen. the excitement is palpable. If you can’t feel it, you’re likely dead (inside?)
Granted, Obama MIGHT blow this opportunity but it’s an opportunity unlike any before it. How about we let him run things for…I dunno…30 days….2 weeks….some period of time to actually see with our own eyes what happens.
The truly remarkable thing is that I’ve been pegged as the “negative” person here and there used to be a case to be made to that effect.
Well, I officially relenquish that title to the rest of you now. You’ve earned it in spades, put my negativity to shame…congratulations!
27 mig // Nov 14, 2008 at 11:10 am
I remember vaguely that MichelleBelle said that the profits from Barrys’ books paid for their student loans. Will this book pay for his daughters education or is he going to spread the wealth around and pay for our childrens’ education?
28 mig // Nov 14, 2008 at 11:12 am
I don’t expect positve change from Obamas first term in office any more than I expected from Pelosis’ hundred days gaffe.
29 boberinyetagain // Nov 14, 2008 at 11:53 am
mig, are you applying for the head job at the “negativity” club? Good for you, someone had to step up but remember, there’s lots of competition around these parts.
Personally I see JL3 as the early frontrunner but there’s still time. Step up your game girl!
30 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 14, 2008 at 12:04 pm
Pot calling the kettle black. Lame.
31 upnorthlurkin // Nov 14, 2008 at 12:07 pm
Hey - you’ve been raggin’ on Dubya ever since you started here…..we’ve got a lot of catching up to do…..why would a radical leftie give any of us hope?! Communism hasn’t worked anywhere it’s been tried…..just because you want a piece of my pie…..actually feel you’re entitled to it….doesn’t make it moral or right.
32 upnorthlurkin // Nov 14, 2008 at 12:18 pm
Apparently Dumbo has already dropped the change portion of his campaign….and intends instead to relive the Clinton administration …
Oh goodie!!! Kids back in charge!! That worked so well for us!
33 boberinyetagain // Nov 14, 2008 at 12:42 pm
I’ve been ragging on George for actual “accomplishments” not what he might do…
JL3, I knew you’d step up! You go boy!
34 BlackLion31U // Nov 14, 2008 at 12:52 pm
YOU GO BOBER!!
That’s what I’m takin about, tell it like it is. I got your back buddy.
35 BlackLion31U // Nov 14, 2008 at 12:57 pm
Like Boberin said,
At least we gave George a chance to show his incompetence before we started bashing him.
NEW RULE: We the trolls of this site will NOT award anyone an “Obama-hater’ title until AFTER he has taken his oath of office. Try if you like people, but it’s not gonna happen.
36 upnorthlurkin // Nov 14, 2008 at 1:38 pm
Dumbo thinks he’s already king….why wait….?
37 Mack // Nov 14, 2008 at 2:05 pm
I look at this as the judgment Billy Graham told us about when he said so prophetically “If God fails to punish America for abortion, then God will owe and apology to Sodom and Gomorrah.”
Maybe when we reached 50,000,000 dead babies with no indication that we would stop God had enough. Maybe when the homosexual activists not only flaunted God’s word but that society made it common place, even acceptable and mainstream that which God calls an abomination.
I wonder if the tipping point was when liberal courts removed any mention of God’s name or word from public and made it criminal to acknowledge God even at a football game. People were offended, but they couldn’t care less about offending God.
At any rate, we as a nation and as a world are about to get what we asked for. Freedom from God’s intervention. He seems inclined to lets us reap what we have sowed. Oops
38 Mack // Nov 14, 2008 at 2:07 pm
Bober, psot 29
Let him run it , give him a chance, you mean like you liberals gave President Bush a chance?
39 gafisher // Nov 14, 2008 at 2:33 pm
Bober Re#26: “How about we let him run things for…I dunno…30 days….2 weeks….some period of time to actually see with our own eyes what happens.”
Sounds fair to me. I hereby resolve, to the best of my ability, to base my future comments regarding Obama not on speculation — be it hope or fear — but on past performance. If all of us will do the same I think we’ll all get on just famously.
Now, let’s see; where did those “past performance” files go? Oh, wait, [here] is a list to start with.
40 Fred Sinclair // Nov 14, 2008 at 2:52 pm
From “The Patriot Post” today - a short excerpt -
“…..On that note, the latest crop of Leftists on their way to Washington under the supervision of President-elect Barack Obama are destined to make a greater mockery of our Constitution than any administration in history.
Clearly, Obama and his ilk have no history of honoring, or intention to honor, their oaths and, in fact, have no context for such honor.
A small cadre of liberals who believe themselves to be “patriots†have asked, “Can’t I be a bona fide Patriot and support Barack Obama?â€In a word … NO, unless in a state of solemn repentance.
In the spirit of charity, perhaps Obama supporters, who self-identify as patriots, are just grossly misinformed about our Constitution, our history and their own civic duty. Of course, they would likewise be grossly deluded about their identity, but perhaps the delusion is temporary.
I would suggest that Obama “patriots†are nothing more than “sunshine patriots,†as Thomas Paine wrote, who “will in crisis, shrink from the service of his country.â€
41 onlineanalyst // Nov 14, 2008 at 3:14 pm
If past is prologue, Obamao, the community organizer®, will expand his vision of collectivism and dependence on the State until our loss of liberty and self-determination is cast in concrete.
Add me to the list of those who are pessimistice about the future of our nation under an Obama presidency aided by a fiscally incompetent Democrat-controlled Congress.
I’m not the only one who sees the writing on the wall.
Look to our tax-burdened Democrat-run cities with their crony corruption, their bankruptcy, their decayed neighborhoods, their increasing welfare rolls, their crime, and their unachieving schools to predict the flavor of a nation under the Democrat-Obamaworld master plan. America will become Chicago writ large.
BTW will the Obamas’ daughters be enrolled in public schools? Since the manchild does not believe that choice extends to vouchers and scholarships to alternative schools, how does he square his lies to the NEA regarding public schools?
Are you all looking forward to the mandatory/voluntary (Huh?) community service that THE ONE plans to institute for “the greater good”?
Would Obama himself be employed by his own administration if he honestly completed his team’s application? For that matter, would he ever receive approval under the vetting procedures of those agencies that require scrutiny for national security clearance?
42 onlineanalyst // Nov 14, 2008 at 3:17 pm
Er, that’s “pessimistic” for all our ACORN sympathizers…
43 BlackLion31U // Nov 14, 2008 at 3:24 pm
Fred, your back, and funny as ever. I do wish you continued improvement in your health.
“President-elect Barack Obama are destined to make a greater mockery of our Constitution than any administration in history.”
Wow, doesn’t the bible say something about staying away from fortune tellers? Maybe?
We’ll have to see what happens, but I think he’s got his work cut out for him to make a bigger mockery of our constitution than Bush/Cheney.
Oh, maybe the auther wasn’t including them in “history” yet because they’re still in office. That must be what it is.
gafisher#39,
Keep up the good work, but your just going to have to wait until January for the label.
Mack#37,
I don’t want to step on Boberin’s toes, but you got my vote for most negative so far on this thread!
44 BlackLion31U // Nov 14, 2008 at 3:32 pm
OLA,
Ya know what my ouija board told me today? That President Obama is actually going to rename the country to Afrimerica! The ouija never lies!
45 Fred Sinclair // Nov 14, 2008 at 3:43 pm
Mack #37 - Reminds me of the Cry out verse:
1Sam. 8:18 And ye shall cry out in that day because of your king which ye shall have chosen you; and the LORD will not hear you in that day.
Marriage vows so often break
A friends betrayal is hard to take
Real love - something you can´t fake
Eternal things are here at stake
Chorus:
Cry
Cry out
People cry out to God
The world´s truth is only lies
False rainbows dance before their eyes
Their god a demon in disguise
The real truth waits to make them wise
Cry
Cry out
People cry out to God
Cry
Cry out
People cry out to God
“Call out to Me, and I will answer you,
Great and mighty things will I show to you”
My heart´s at a raging boil
So little fruit to prove my toil
Pour upon me healing oil
Plant my life in fertil soil
Oh God deliver me!!
Cry
Cry out
People cry out to God
Cry
Cry out
People cry out to God
Cry
Cry out
People cry out to God
46 onlineanalyst // Nov 14, 2008 at 4:05 pm
BL31U: Strawman, fella. Don’t divert the issue raised.
Redbadger over at Free Republic notes the goals of the Communist Manifesto and how we have already slid down the slippery slope as Big Government seizes more and more control over our lives:
1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes. [KELO v. CITY of NEW LONDON CT]
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax. [IRS TAX CODE AS WRITTEN AND TO BE ADDED TO BY NEW CONGRESS]
3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance. [DEATH TAX]
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.[DRUG TRAFFICKING SEIZURES AND SEIZURES OF ALL TYPES RELATED TO CRIMINAL ACTIVITY]
5. Centralization of credit in the banks of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly. [FEDERAL RESERVE & BAILOUT WITH TREASURY SECRETARY UNLIMITED POWERS]
6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the state. [FCC + PUBLIC OWNERSHIP OF AIRWAVES + FAIRNESS DOCTRINE]
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan. [GOVERNMENT BUYING STOCK IN MFG VIA BAILOUTS]
8. Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture. [OBAMA’S CIVILIAN SECURITY FORCE + PEACE CORPS + EXPANDED AMERICORPS]
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country. [ACORN + CRA]
10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc.[NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND + EDUCATION DEPARTMENT RULES ]
any questions?………….
47 Fred Sinclair // Nov 14, 2008 at 4:16 pm
When the usurper elect produces a certified (by more than one document validating specialist) a genuine original Birth Certificate, proving that he satisfies the Constitutional requirements for Citizenship, then and only then will I recant and acknowledge his Presidency.
Until then he will remain a usurper, a highly skilled scam artist (besting even algore) a sly, cunning, illegal pretender and certainly not my President. His subliminal hypnotism worked surprisingly well. Without his playing the race card I doubt that he would have made it past the first three minutes in the DNC Primaries.
The Democrat Party, which Ronald Reagan was part of until the Party left him and he became a Conservative Republican - the same Proud distinguished honorable Party that gave us Harry Truman (arguably one of America’s top ten Presidents) - that Party has ceased to exist.
48 boberinyetagain // Nov 14, 2008 at 4:53 pm
Black Lion, no worries, everyone gets to vote. Seems like we are nearly deadlocked here but I’m confident that the cream will rise to the top (JL3 still frontrunning in my book)
This place is quite fond of “end days” predictions because like every generation before them it’s somehow more comforting to assume the world will end during their lives than it is to think that it could muddle on w/o you…
49 boberinyetagain // Nov 14, 2008 at 4:56 pm
OLA, did Obama really get all those things done already? He’s better than I thought, very productive, you’d have to admit that
50 BlackLion31U // Nov 14, 2008 at 5:02 pm
OLA,
Since George Bush (or Dick Cheney whichever you prefer) is still Captain of this ship, and this country is headed of in the wrong direction, maybe someone should have asked the Captain maybe, say, 4 or 6 years ago, what the heck he was doing.
It’s really no surprise to me, but most of the people here have been playing their own role as Rip Van Winkle, and now you awaken 8 years later, horrified to find our country in trouble.
Warning! Don’t drink any more of that liquor.
51 BlackLion31U // Nov 14, 2008 at 5:05 pm
Fred,
Exception. YOU keep drinking that liquor. Obama seemed to do just fine without your support.
52 gafisher // Nov 14, 2008 at 5:08 pm
BL31U Re#43: “Keep up the good work, but your just going to have to wait until January …”
Aw, c’mon, that assumes Obama has no accomplishments already on his record. I’m saying it’s those we should consider.
Shucks, you’re being harder on the guy than most of us!
53 boberinyetagain // Nov 14, 2008 at 5:21 pm
blacklion, it’s in trouble and they blame Obama, that’s the neat trick of it…
54 BlackLion31U // Nov 14, 2008 at 5:28 pm
gafisher,
Sorry buddy, if I allow those to be included then I have to go back into all the muck about how Bush was a failure before he hijacked the office. To be fair, I can’t do that.
Don’t worry; January will be here before you know it. (the sooner the better) But I do appreciate your enthusiasm!
55 BlackLion31U // Nov 14, 2008 at 5:32 pm
Bober,
I know. I think we may have found the last 18% that still think George did a good job. They must be feeling that pain like when the blood rushes into a cold limb. Ouch, that hurts, so I’ll kick the dog!
56 onlineanalyst // Nov 14, 2008 at 5:38 pm
To my detractors: I said that we are already on a slippery slope, the result of too much bipartisanship BTW, rather than statemanship. Obama’s speeches, generic though they were, and his campaign website evidence a rapid slide into further Big Brotherism and loss of personal autonomy.
The former Czech president Vaclev Havel warns also that legislation and regulation to halt “climate change” (a fool’s errand) is just another avenue to exert control over citizens’ freedoms by the State.
The Democrats want the cover of this administration to bail out the auto industry in order to seize (covertly) another industry and impose “green” standards, as well as pay off the UAW for its support. People’s car, anyone?
Pelosi and Reid wanted a bipartisan bailout for the financial sector in order to point the finger at the Bush administration, too. Bush was a fool to be manipulated by Hank Paulson, whose Goldman-Sachs ties and Democrat allies surely influenced him.
Watch how many Executive Orders become issued within the first 100 days of the Obama presidency. Heck, I imagine that the first month of those should wake up a few people.
57 onlineanalyst // Nov 14, 2008 at 5:41 pm
You’ll have to excuse me now, for I find several of you a distraction. And I want to eat my waffle.
58 boberinyetagain // Nov 14, 2008 at 5:45 pm
Agreed…”we are already on a slippery slope” (your words OLA) but to blame Obama just doesn’t seem right.
He may make that better, he may make it worse but he didn’t put us there…let’s think now…who’s been in charge?
But, apparently we’ve agreed on one month of actual presidency before we impeach him. That seems fair.
59 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 14, 2008 at 6:45 pm
THIS kind of puerile propaganda is enough to make me jerk my eyeballs out and stomp on them.
Next we’re going to see the Cheshire Grin of that Obsequious Narcissist superimposed on a crucifix.
Sickening.
My archived worst-case-scenarios from the last couple of years regarding BHO have already been shown to be not nearly paranoid enough. Not even close.
[bold mine]
60 mindknumbed kid // Nov 14, 2008 at 8:58 pm
President-elect Obama is ready to rule on day one. Not as president, for presidents lead, but as messiah.
Funortunately he is following in his democratic “fathers” footsteps to do evil in the sight of the Lord.
God only knows what our future will be, however we are not the first nation which having experienced his hand of blessing has chosen to abandon him. We can see through biblical history how things went for the nation of Israel, one of many passages is found in 2 Kings 13.
Instead of thinking Obama this and Bush that, America better be tuning in to what God is planning to do. He alone has the power to strengthen, and the power to destroy.
Study the Word of God and see for yourself which path we are on. They will not tell you on CNN, MesSNBC, or Fox. By the time the details are reported on there it will be too late to effect an outcome.
“Wow, most hear appear to see/be predicting the “end of days†when most of the country and the world as well sees….brace yourselves….
HOPE! hope like it’s never been seen. the excitement is palpable. If you can’t feel it, you’re likely dead (inside?)”
Can’t imagine the antichrist (not saying BHO is or is not) being received in any other manner. So much for popular opinion…
61 mindknumbed kid // Nov 14, 2008 at 9:14 pm
I understand that in this modern era we are not responsible for our actions, our faults, our sins. So in the light of this new found enlightenment I am forced to recant everything I have said that implies that God may not be looking upon our nation with favor. I understand it is not our personal or national shortcomings that determines our future on this earth, but rather the greatness of our leaders and our collective intellect. Now of a surety I can understand that the man Obama is the One, praise the planetary system, we’re saved!!!
62 mindknumbed kid // Nov 14, 2008 at 9:16 pm
Or, in the words of the followers of Gore - Al-lelujah!
63 mindknumbed kid // Nov 14, 2008 at 9:20 pm
Now we can get the key-o-toyoto treaty signed and the planet will continue forever, Oman!
64 mindknumbed kid // Nov 14, 2008 at 9:21 pm
More Evian, fellow citizens?
65 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 14, 2008 at 10:07 pm
The Bible concisely delineates several criteria which must manifest themselves in the resume of a contender before their consideration for the role of The Antichrist [as yet, these requirements have not been met]—an interesting Topical Study, by the way, following the Typology interwoven with Prophecy for edification directly from Almighty God.
I would say, for example, that Hitler was an antichrist [a poseur] but not The Antichrist.
~~~~~
Matthew 6:25-34
Thank you
66 Darthmeister // Nov 14, 2008 at 11:38 pm
Writing the memoirs shouldn’t be too hard if its going to be about ObaMarx’s actual legislative accomplishments. I mena, it would take only about ten minutes to write a couple paragraphs don’t ya think?
Half a Dozen Agencies Accessed “Joe the Plumber’s Records
Freakin’ left-wing fascists. I guess this is the kind of “change” we can expect from Obama’s brownshirts … the politics of personal destruction.
67 mindknumbed kid // Nov 14, 2008 at 11:39 pm
Very much agreed.
68 Darthmeister // Nov 15, 2008 at 12:15 am
It’s interesting how those who have engaged in such venomous feral hatred of President Bush for the last five or six years now demand that we shouldn’t criticize the statements that Mr. Obama has already made that if enacted could deepen the Reid-Pelosi recession, enlarge the welfare plantation, diminish this country’s ability to defend itself, and infringe upon the natural rights of a free people (vis a vis some warped “Fairness Doctrine”, for example).
Unlike liberals with respect to President Bush, we should give Mr. Obama’s policy “changes” a fair hearing, that is, we don’t resort to lies and hysterical whining. Instead we should let the cold hard facts speak for themselves as to Mr. Obama’s competence as MOTUS.
There won’t be any reason to lie if in, say, two or three years there are still homeless people on the streets, inflation is above 6%, if the financial markets stay flat, our military strength is substantially weakened, our enemies abroad rejoice even more in the “fall of Great Satan” (I mean, aren’t all the enemies that President Bush allegedly created suppose to fall in love with us?), gasoline is $5/gal and climbing, we become more dependent on foreign sources of energy, all the poor people’s bills are getting paid by Big Brother, taxes continue to climb, home mortgage rates are above 8%, etc., and multi-billion dollar corporations are still whining for bailouts.
As we all know, there are natural economic cycles which do occur which are outside the control of the office of the presidency and to a lesser degree outside the control of a tax-and-spend Congress, but if social security, healthcare and the rest of the entitlement state continue to grow in leaps and bounds, that can depress any economy, particularly if ever higher taxes are being levied during a recessionary period. And even if the middle-class isn’t being directly targetted by taxes, the simple reality is ALL taxes are ultimately paid by the consumer.
Though on the one hand I’m very desirous to see Mr. Obama and the Democratic-controlled Congress actually do the conservative thing by keeping taxes low, not grow government, make America more energy independent by using more of our domestic energy sources like coal, oil, nuclear and hydro-electric power (let’s face it, green power looks great on paper but windmills and solar cells simply aren’t going to get the job done unless their is a ten-fold increase in their efficiency - personally I believe room temperature fusion holds more promise but that’s little more than a pipedream right now), and keep America militarily strong, I WILL NOT be a part of or applaud an enlargement of the welfare plantation and Democrats turning America into a socialist velvet gulag.
Unlike how the liberals conducted themselves during the Bush Administration, conservatives should be the loyal opposition, loyal to what remains of America and in opposition to those who hold within their political grasp the ability to utterly destroy her with inept policies and dreams of an unattainable utopia.
69 Darthmeister // Nov 15, 2008 at 12:59 am
Blacklion, you’ve prided yourself multiple times in engaging in the false “logic” of argumentum ad numerum … the bandwagon appeal. It’s very similar to argumentum ad populum. You seem to think because a greater percentage of people believe a certain way then it must be so and it will always remain so. Wrong.
Also, in following your mostly vacuous “arguments” the last few months I’ve found you have made quite liberal use of the argumentum ad verecundium (an appeal to “authority” which mostly consisted of biased media opinions and that of whacked out left-wing bloggers), hid behind the invincible ignorance argument, tossed out more than a few red herrings which were judiciously followed by the evading the issue argument.
Not content with trying to obfuscate with non sequitors you double-down by refusing to stay on topic as one Scrappler after another destroys your original argument/statement. And when really backed into a corner you shamelessly resort to strawman arguments salted with your own special brew of argument by false premises.
And then you try to wear us out with endless repetitions of the same ol’ left-wing propaganda vis a vis argumentum ad nauseam.
You’ve been a busy man … or a consortium. No wonder you think you’re winning all the time, you’ve even confused yourself!
Look, I’m the first to admit I’ve often fallen prey to any number of these arguments at one time or another, but people like you absolutely refuse to admit that you’re dead wrong about anything because there’s some kind of herd mentality in liberals which innoculate them from ever entertaining any thought that they are simply heading down the wrong path … until finally they find themselves falling over a cliff. Well, I refuse to be a liberal lemming with visions of utopia dancing in my brain and I refuse to recklessly run off cliff because everyone else thinks its a good idea at the time.
The proof is in the pudding. Despite the economic and financial travails at the moment (no thanks to the liberal Democrats who have essentially cheerled Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as they melted down on their watch), the economy is in far better shape now than it was when Jimmy Carter handed it to Ronald Reagan. And history is very clear that the American economy improved dramatically under Ronald Reagans presidency (despite Democrat whining to the contrary) within a matter of a couple of years and continued to grow dramatically until 2007. Sure there was a very small one year recession during Bush 41’s administration and an equally small three quarter recession at the end of Bill Clinton’s administration, but when all things are considered, America has prospered the last twenty-four years.
And now we have the most unaccomplished, inexperienced man ever elected to the office of the presidency who wants to “spread the wealth” and tax “rich people” during something approaching a recession. You Obamatons had better be right.
70 Mack // Nov 15, 2008 at 7:33 am
Our trolls here choose to ignore their actions when President Bush was elected. Al Gore we all remember, conceded the race in 2000, for about 45 minutes, then called the president back and recanted. After that we had about a month of Al Gore and his cronies trying to steal the election in Florida before the U.S. Supreme Court told the Florida Supreme Court that they had to follow their own constitution rather than changing the law to suit Al Gore.
So President Bush had a 45 minutes of honeymoon. We all know that ever since Al Gore recanted his concession we have had non-stop attacks on President Bush, by the left, some who are still deluded to think he was never legally elected.
With ACORN and the gang out trying to steal the senate seat in Minnesota for Al Franken, one of the loudest critics of President Bush I find it ironic. I woke this morning before 0400 am and thought about all the judges that were blocked by the Democrats in the Senate. President Bush nominated them, first Tom Dashle and the gang filibustered them, then McCain and the gang of 14 derailed them, then Harry Reid wouldn’t even consider confirmation, now Obama will fill the vacancies with liberals.
I thought about that and all of the other little ploys used shamelessly by the left while Billy Clinton was still in office and Al Gore was trying to steal the election claiming he had to form his own transition team. Yet the trolls have the gall to say they gave President Bush a chance?
“GIVE NO PLACE TO THE DEVIL.”
71 Fred Sinclair // Nov 15, 2008 at 8:46 am
An excerpt from “The Catholic Connection”
Nov. 14, 2008 by Phyllis Schlafly
Obama admits he got his start as a community organizer in Chicago, saying it was “the best education I ever had, better than anything I got at Harvard Law School.” He tries to downplay his connection with ACORN, claiming he worked for churches, but he was trained by Alinsky’s Industrial Areas Foundation and then spent years in the 1980s teaching the Alinsky method to others through several Alinsky offshoots such as Project Vote and Developing Communities Project in Chicago.
Saul Alinsky’s son Lee David Alinsky felt compelled to remedy Obama’s failure to give proper credit. In a letter to the Boston Globe in August after Obama’s open-stadium rally in Denver, the younger Alinsky wrote: “Obama learned his lesson well. I am proud to see that my father’s model for organizing is being applied successfully beyond local community organizing to affect the Democratic campaign in 2008. It is a fine tribute to Saul Alinsky as we approach his 100th birthday.”
Saul Alinsky explained his community organizing tactics in his book “Rules for Radicals.” His game plan was to divide the community into the Haves and the Have Nots, make the Have Nots believe they are unjustly treated by the Haves, build resentment against the American social and economic system, use church congregations to mobilize street agitators, and lobby government for higher taxes and big-spending welfare programs in order to confiscate the wealth and power of the Haves and turn it over to the Have Nots.
Alinsky dedicated his book to Lucifer, “the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom.”
Another Alinsky quote seems remarkably prophetic: “Ego must be so all-pervading that the personality of the organizer is contagious, that it converts the people from despair to defiance, creating a mass ego.”
72 RepublicanAttackMachine // Nov 15, 2008 at 8:53 am
Mack my friend, to that I say, AMEN!
The trolls are here for one reason, to stifle ANY and ALL dissent from their slanted views. I believe in redemption for people who are simply misguided, but please show me ANY posting here that fit that category!
Each and everyone is a hard core lib who delights in stirring up posters here. The left wing of this Country has every right to their opinion, and that is why I do NOT go to their websites to try to agrevate them.
As I have said before, some say here to listen to them because that is whatwe should do as Godly people. Sorry, but GOD tells me that these people do NOT want to change, and if you go back and look at their postings, they do not want a discussion, rather an arguement!
Compromise is why America has lost the values we once cherished, and even MORE compromise will only make us slide even farther.
I also, have failed to see this until now but, the mess America has found itself in is not Bush’s fault, or any other politician per say, but because we have turned our backs, as a Nation, on GOD!
I hope and pray that Michael Steele becomes the next chairman of the Republican party. THAT, gives me “hope”!!!
Until that changes, all the bailout money in the world, or King Obama giving us “hope”, will ALL in vain!
73 mig // Nov 15, 2008 at 9:12 am
Tut Tut boober,
You know how Scott feels about personal attacks.
Crickets.
74 Fred Sinclair // Nov 15, 2008 at 9:30 am
Darthmeister #69 - “the economy is in far better shape now than it was when Jimmy Carter handed it to Ronald Reagan.”
During the Carter Presidency I lived in St. Petersburg, Fla. Finding a job was next to impossible. In fact for many, it was impossible. I worked as night mgr. of a full line grocery store (a job created for me by the owners).
During the last year of Carter I must have averaged a dozen times a week having people come begging for a job. “I’ve been out of work for over three months - do you know anybody that’s hiring? - I’ll do anything.”
Enter Ronald Reagan - (you can’t turn an ocean liner around on a hairpin curve) two years later I averaged 3 or 4 personnel directors each week (from nearby factories) “Fred, do you know anybody that needs a job? Here’s my card. I’ll pay you a $25 finders fee for each one you send me. We need 20 new people, at least.”
What was the difference? Conservative vs Liberal was the only difference. The Reagan tax cuts freed up capital and the factories were able to expand to their Pre-Carter days. Cut-backs and lay-offs were history. No one came asking for a job.
I am of the opinion that under an Obama Administration, we will look back wistfully at the Carter Administration as “The Good Old Days”. Rampant inflation, double digit interest rates, etc., will once again become the norm. We may also learn how the Cuban people felt after Fidel seized power. Socialism/Communism is never a good life for those who are not in the power slots. (now, if you’re a clerk in a liberal judge’s court, you’ll probably do O.K. and wonder what all the fuss is about.)
75 gafisher // Nov 15, 2008 at 9:35 am
BL31U Re#54: That’s one of the whiniest surrenders I’ve ever heard.
76 mig // Nov 15, 2008 at 10:17 am
gafisher-
Have you noticed how Bush hijacked or stole elections, but thanks to Acorn we finally had a fair and legal election without fraud?
Have you noticed how if you don’t agree with boober and pals, you’re labeled as pessimistic?
Now that the shoe is on the other foot, they still can’t handle it.
77 gafisher // Nov 15, 2008 at 12:59 pm
Agreed, mig. It’s amusing to see them fighting so hard to defend all the things The One hasn’t even done yet.
78 Fred Sinclair // Nov 15, 2008 at 5:45 pm
This just in from Letty - good worthwhile stuff- (if the link posts O.K.
Click here: MyHeritage.org: SuppEort The Heritage Foundation:
First, the libs us for castigated their own country for retaliating for an attack on our soil,
NOW they want to disarm us.
Heaven help us, we’re going to need it. 8 min. video.
Letty
79 Fred Sinclair // Nov 15, 2008 at 5:47 pm
Whoops - didn’t make it - if anybody wants to see it e-mail me and I’ll send it to you. - heirborn_ranger@sbcglobal.net
80 Fred Sinclair // Nov 15, 2008 at 5:55 pm
Ronald Reagan 1964 speech for Goldwater - Possibly the greatest speech he ever gave in his lifetime (personal opinion only).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt1fYSAChxs
81 mig // Nov 15, 2008 at 6:56 pm
“… is it just that the NAACP is desperately trying to appear relevant in a country where “CP,” having just seen one of their number elected president, no longer need an “NA” for their advancement?” James Taranto
82 mig // Nov 15, 2008 at 6:58 pm
Oops, is that negative or positive?
83 reagankid // Nov 15, 2008 at 7:09 pm
Bravo.
The last person who wrote so many pages of memoir from so little experience was the author of “A Million Tiny Pieces.”
The liberal illuminati seem unable to recognize the weaknesses in their new president.
84 mindknumbed kid // Nov 15, 2008 at 7:53 pm
Seems as though someone should have some sort of first accomplishment BEFORE being elected POTUS. Strange days indeed.
85 mindknumbed kid // Nov 15, 2008 at 8:00 pm
JL3 - Would you say that it is possible for the Antichrist to be among us now, but has not yet began to build his resume?
I believe the Antichrist will around 30 - 33 when he comes on the scene. But that is not based on scripture, just my perhaps quirky way of thinking.
86 Fred Sinclair // Nov 15, 2008 at 8:07 pm
a segment from the 1940 Bob Hope film The Ghost Breakers, synopsized thusly……..
Mary Carter (Paulette Goddard) inherits her family’s ancestral home, located on a
small island off Cuba, and, despite warnings and death threats, decides to take
possession of the reputedly haunted castle. She is joined by radio broadcaster Larry
Lawrence (Bob Hope) who, believing he has killed a mob gunsel, flees New York with
his butler, Alex. Once on the island the threesome enter the eerie castle and, after
viewing the ghost of one of Mary’s ancestors and fighting off a menacing zombie,
they find the key to the castle’s treasure but are interrupted by an all-too-human foe.
In the scene shown here, Larry Lawrence and Mary Carter inquire of Geoff Montgomery
(Richard Carlson) about the nature of creatures known as “zombies,” providing the set-up
for the most famous line in movie history….. a Bob Hope zinger:
Lawrence: “You live here?”
Montgomery: “Yes.”
Lawrence: “Then maybe you know what a zombie is”
Montgomery: “When a person dies and is buried, its seems there are certain voodoo
priests who … who have the power to bring him back to life.”
Carter: “How horrible!”
Montgomery: “It’s worse than horrible because a zombie has no will of his own. You
see them sometimes walking around blindly with dead eyes, following orders, not
knowing what they do, not caring.”
Lawrence: “You mean like Democrats?”
a segment from the 1940 Bob Hope film The Ghost Breakers, synopsized thusly……..
Mary Carter (Paulette Goddard) inherits her family’s ancestral home, located on a
small island off Cuba, and, despite warnings and death threats, decides to take
possession of the reputedly haunted castle. She is joined by radio broadcaster Larry
Lawrence (Bob Hope) who, believing he has killed a mob gunsel, flees New York with
his butler, Alex. Once on the island the threesome enter the eerie castle and, after
viewing the ghost of one of Mary’s ancestors and fighting off a menacing zombie,
they find the key to the castle’s treasure but are interrupted by an all-too-human foe.
In the scene shown here, Larry Lawrence and Mary Carter inquire of Geoff Montgomery
(Richard Carlson) about the nature of creatures known as “zombies,” providing the set-up
for the most famous line in movie history. a Bob Hope zinger:
Lawrence: “You live here?”
Montgomery: “Yes.”
Lawrence: “Then maybe you know what a zombie is”
Montgomery: “When a person dies and is buried, its seems there are certain voodoo
priests who … who have the power to bring him back to life.”
Carter: “How horrible!”
Montgomery: “It’s worse than horrible because a zombie has no will of his own. You
see them sometimes walking around blindly with dead eyes, following orders, not
knowing what they do, not caring.”
Lawrence: “You mean like Democrats?”
87 Fred Sinclair // Nov 15, 2008 at 8:10 pm
Oops I didn’t do it (I don’t think) the double post jut popped up. Sorry, - Waxless Fred
88 mindknumbed kid // Nov 15, 2008 at 8:34 pm
Not that I suspect the people who need to read this will bother to do so, but just in case it could help somebody understand current events and our need to finish what we have started.
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Thought/hl1081.cfm
89 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 15, 2008 at 9:26 pm
What if the sky really is falling!?!
I think I’ll remake a searching and fearless moral inventory of myself……just in case.
And pray without ceasing and sing, “My Country ’tis of Thee, Sweet Land of Liberty…..” Maybe even prostrate myself right here on my floor and Praise the Name of Almighty God more often.
90 Darthmeister // Nov 15, 2008 at 9:26 pm
Sea Ice Growing At Fastest Pace on Record
Gorsh, Obama really is good. He hasn’t even taken office yet and already he’s reversing the effects of Global Warming!
But then again maybe this is more “proof” of Global Warming.
91 gafisher // Nov 15, 2008 at 10:24 pm
“… already he’s reversing the effects of Global Warming!”
The Caliph of Cool.
92 mindknumbed kid // Nov 15, 2008 at 10:29 pm
This just in…president elect Barack Obama is not white, he doesn’t look like the other presidents on all of our paper currency. Why wasn’t this reported before the election? All of America is so racist that a non-white couldn’t possibly win, right?
93 mindknumbed kid // Nov 15, 2008 at 10:45 pm
So, in the movie O Brother, Where Art Thou? It is possible that Stokes was elected Governor?
94 mindknumbed kid // Nov 15, 2008 at 10:47 pm
One of my favorite parts of the movie…
Blind Seer: You seek a great fortune, you three who are now in chains. You will find a fortune, though it will not be the one you seek. But first… first you must travel a long and difficult road, a road fraught with peril. Mm-hmm. You shall see thangs, wonderful to tell. You shall see a… a cow… on the roof of a cotton house, ha. And, oh, so many startlements. I cannot tell you how long this road shall be, but fear not the obstacles in your path, for fate has vouchsafed your reward. Though the road may wind, yea, your hearts grow weary, still shall ye follow them, even unto your salvation.
95 mindknumbed kid // Nov 15, 2008 at 10:50 pm
Well Rush said, Obama isn’t cool, he’s downright cold. There’s your proof boys.
96 mindknumbed kid // Nov 15, 2008 at 10:55 pm
I filled the gas tank of my Mazda from naught to full today for $32.50, diesel is under $3 here. If we can maintain these prices, the economy might just pull out rather quickly. All the consumers really need is to be let up off of the ropes a while.
97 mindknumbed kid // Nov 15, 2008 at 10:59 pm
But we have only been recording the volume of sea ice since 1979. So we have one of the Gorites indicators of pending climatic doom’s basis only covering 29 years of recent history…
98 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 16, 2008 at 6:53 am
Thank you
99 Darthmeister // Nov 16, 2008 at 10:32 am
Just one more example of how Global Warmism is based on bad “science” and fraud.
Of course the Global Warming culties will crow how the Global Warming theory is “self-correcting”: “See, someone caught the mistake but all the other evidences are legitimate.” Yeah, right.
100 Fred Sinclair // Nov 16, 2008 at 1:04 pm
Titus 1:12 One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, The Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies.
Sounds as if Crete was overloaded with their day’s version of today’s Liberals. So perhaps Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, B.O. and gang could be referred to as Cretians?
I doubt that they would pick up on it since the probability is that if any of them actually own a Bible it’s little more than a dust collecting ornament to lie on their coffee table.
When I lived on Crete (1957-1959) little if anything had changed from Paul’s day.
101 Mack // Nov 16, 2008 at 2:18 pm
I talked to a fellow who was a big Obama supporter. Key world being “was.” We all know he has yet to assume his office, but the Bill Ayers’ interview didn’t sit well with some of his less fanatic supporters. Seems they didn’t want to believe that he actually got his start in the living room of an unrepentant terrorist.
Oops. Already voted now were all stuck with them.
102 mindknumbed kid // Nov 16, 2008 at 4:36 pm
That is the truth, they did not WANT to hear the facts, they wanted someone other than a republican Bush-like leader. Now they have what they didn’t want to know…can’t feel sorry for them.
Perhaps “Who’s Sorry Now” will be the theme song of the Obama administration.
103 mindknumbed kid // Nov 16, 2008 at 5:16 pm
From Jeremiah chapter 18
7At what instant I shall speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to pluck up, and to pull down, and to destroy it;
8If that nation, against whom I have pronounced, turn from their evil, I will repent of the evil that I thought to do unto them.
9And at what instant I shall speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to build and to plant it;
10If it do evil in my sight, that it obey not my voice, then I will repent of the good, wherewith I said I would benefit them.
11Now therefore go to, speak to the men of Judah, and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, saying, Thus saith the LORD; Behold, I frame evil against you, and devise a device against you: return ye now every one from his evil way, and make your ways and your doings good.
12And they said, There is no hope: but we will walk after our own devices, and we will every one do the imagination of his evil heart.
13Therefore thus saith the LORD; Ask ye now among the heathen, who hath heard such things: the virgin of Israel hath done a very horrible thing.
14Will a man leave the snow of Lebanon which cometh from the rock of the field? or shall the cold flowing waters that come from another place be forsaken?
15Because my people hath forgotten me, they have burned incense to vanity, and they have caused them to stumble in their ways from the ancient paths, to walk in paths, in a way not cast up;
Proverbs 29
1He, that being often reproved hardeneth his neck, shall suddenly be destroyed, and that without remedy.
2When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.
9If a wise man contendeth with a foolish man, whether he rage or laugh, there is no rest.
12If a ruler hearken to lies, all his servants are wicked.
26Many seek the ruler’s favour; but every man’s judgment cometh from the LORD.
27An unjust man is an abomination to the just: and he that is upright in the way is abomination to the wicked.
104 Fred Sinclair // Nov 16, 2008 at 6:35 pm
e-mail just in from a fellow Scrappler I’m not sure how to answer.
“The paper said today, in horrified tones ,that gun sales had gone up 84% since the election. Can’t think why.”
I can’t think why either, given the situation, I would have opined that sales would surely be up by 200% or 250%, I have no idea why they are only up 84%.
I doubt they’ll go after guns real soon. Oh, they’ll probably make noise and threats and work for the inevitable Republican compromise.
Advance three steps, retreat one or two; advance three steps, retreat one or two. Slowly encroaching on freedoms is how they got to where they are now. Slow, but sure. I think they’ll go for the ammo first. If gun confiscation is too much for the citizens. They might follow Mexico’s lead from long, long ago. It is illegal in Mexico for a Citizen to own a firearm that fires any ammo currently in use by the Mexican Military and Police, it’s also illegal to own, have or possess any ammo currently being used by the M&P. Similar laws are in effect in Canada which results in the lowly .22 Long Rifle cartridge accounting for more deer taken each year in all of North America, than all other calibers combined.
If I were younger and not in this wheelchair, I’d begin stockpiling caches of 12 gage shotgun shells. A lot of it in 00, 000, and BB shot. There’s already (especially in Illinois of all places) bills to put severe restrictions on ammo purchase.
One law proposed (I never read whether or not it passed) would have required the would be purchaser of any ammo, show (certificate of ownership and/or bill of sale that he/she actually owned a firearm of that caliber (back door registration) with restrictions on the amount of ammo that could be purchased in any given month.
They managed to pass laws outlawing teflon coated alleged “Cop Killer” bullets.(because they could potentially slice through ‘bullet proof’ vests like cheese.) There is not ONE SINGLE INSTANCE of anyone EVER actually wearing such a vest being shot, injured or killed by such a bullet.
But I still can’t explain the puny 84% figure.
105 mig // Nov 16, 2008 at 6:52 pm
The only plan the Democrats can propose that would even remotely have me considering unification is the trial of Barney Frank, Christopher Dodd, and the rest of the bozos escaping the mortgage mess. Now we’re talking positive change.
Now that has to be a positive message.
106 mig // Nov 16, 2008 at 7:20 pm
Hamas says its officials met with Obama aides before the U.S. Election but kept the meeting secret so as not to aid the McCain Campaign. You can find that story here
Jimmy Carter says Obama will waste no time in pursuing Middle East peace.
107 Newsman // Nov 16, 2008 at 10:55 pm
Too many of us here spend way too much energy generating negative thoughts and being highly critical of our differences..
We need to concentrate on thinking constructively and positively.
As a Democrat I can definitively say I do not see a Republican Administration as the end of the world or necessarily a negative event.
Neither Republicans nor Democrats know all the answers.
We can accomplish more by deliberately exploring those areas in which we have more in common then not. And then get together to see what we can do.
Our primary goal now is to restore our economy to some sense of normalcy.
I welcome whoever can come up with some constructive ways to accomplish this goal.
108 mindknumbed kid // Nov 16, 2008 at 11:53 pm
I suggest to start off building a consensus that will bring solutions for positive change in America we acknowledge the Creator and seek his blessings.
109 mindknumbed kid // Nov 16, 2008 at 11:55 pm
Ephesians 5:6
Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
110 Fred Sinclair // Nov 17, 2008 at 1:01 am
Barack Obama is a narcissist. Dr. Sam Vaknin, the author of ‘Malignant Self Love,’ also believes, ‘Barack Obama appears to be a narcissist.’
Narcissists project a grandiose but false image of themselves. Jim Jones, the charismatic leader of People’s Temple, the man who led over 900 of his followers to cheerfully commit mass suicide and even murder their own children was also a narcissist.
Charles Manson, Joseph Koni, Shoko Asahara, Joe Stalin, Saddam Hussein, Mao Zedong, Kim Jong IL, and Adolph Hitler are a few examples of narcissists of our time.It is no wonder that Ahmadinejad, Hugo Chavez, the Maoist Castroists, the Hezbollah, the Hamas, the lawyers of the Guantanamo terrorists, and virtually all sworn enemies of America are so thrilled by having ‘their man’ in the White House. America is on the verge of destruction. There is no insanity greater than electing a pathological narcissist as president.
111 Fred Sinclair // Nov 17, 2008 at 6:47 am
I dogpiled “pathological narcissist and there is a whole bunch of links. Some seemed funny and some made me want to cry. If this one posts, it’s a good one, otherwise dogpile it like I did - quite an education. - Pathological Narcissism -
A Dysfunction or a Blessing?
Pathological Narcissism is a dysfunction but it has postive sides as well
112 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 17, 2008 at 9:24 am
If there is ever to be any real change (that is, for the better), it can only come through the conservative agenda and I do not mean the same old Republican faces (many of whom I consider to be complicit in the current state of affairs).
There needs to be a 180-degree Motivational Shift away from self-aggrandizement. We need to save our country.
113 Fred Sinclair // Nov 17, 2008 at 10:19 am
WoW!! This just in from Scott’s Victory Valley (Sno-Valley) Just reading a snip from it gave me a ‘rush’ - lets me trip back to when I was in the 10 year old mode. Lots of fun!
Chilly nights, warmed by the campfire. S’mores and hot chocolate. Boots crunching along a woodland path. Deer and turkeys running for cover. Songs of joy and thrilling Bible times. Slipping and sliding on snow or ice. Climbing the rock wall, zipping around Victory Hall on roller blades or skates. Games, games and more games. Songs, songs and more songs. Good food and plenty of it. Memories and friends that last a lifetime.
I sincerely thank you Mr. Ott - You, your family and your ‘extended’ family (the kids) and the valley are in my prayers.
114 mig // Nov 17, 2008 at 11:25 am
the Right needs …
better information organization, which will help a movement coalesce around …
the organizing agenda, out of which flows …
the storyline/narrative, which motivates …
the grassroots/netroots to get engaged, mobilized, and donating, all of which is channeled effectively by …
movement infrastructure, both online and offline.
115 gafisher // Nov 17, 2008 at 12:04 pm
mkk Re#96: “All the consumers really need is to be let up off of the ropes a while.”
Too late. We’ve traded them in for chains.
116 BlackLion31U // Nov 17, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Going down with the ship?
“GOP aspirants face the possibility of a nightmare scenario: taking the helm of a party so weighed down by doctrinaire hard-liners and hectoring moralists that no one, especially an RNC chair, will be able to change course and avoid a tsunami of culturally disinhibited.
The continuing decimation of the GOP’s moderate wing in the House and Senate - “where do you find road-kill? In the middle of the road” - has left the party’s House and Senate ranks dominated by Christian conservatives and free market zealots — at a time of economic crisis brought about by an under-regulated financial sector run amok. Various types of conservative hardliners are too firmly entrenched in the GOP to give way so easily, and at the moment, none of their conservatisms is going to sell to the American public.”
117 boberinyetagain // Nov 17, 2008 at 12:20 pm
For what it’s worth…Obama’s record so far…
Voted for the “General Bailout”…strike one
Leaning towards “Auto Bailout…stike two
Then again a vote for the “other side” would have produced the same 2 strikes so…6 of one, 1/2 dozen of the other so far…
We will see…
118 BlackLion31U // Nov 17, 2008 at 12:49 pm
Either way this goes, it appears it’s going to be a dark and dreary Holiday Season for Michiganders. Did I hear correctly that they were forcasting a possible foot of lake affect snow? Man, you gotta feel for those people.
119 BlackLion31U // Nov 17, 2008 at 12:51 pm
To top off the gloomy economic forecast, it doesn’t look like the Wolverines have a chance in heck of beating Ohio State. Now that STINKS!
Bring back Bo and Woody!
120 gafisher // Nov 17, 2008 at 1:06 pm
Lake effect snow is Michigan’s good news, BL31U. It brings tens of thousands of winter sports enthusiasts here every year, a sizable chunk of what’s left of our economy.
121 Hawkeye // Nov 17, 2008 at 1:42 pm
Well, here we go…
Obama’s War On Conservative Talk Radio
122 MajorDomo // Nov 17, 2008 at 2:01 pm
Newsman: “Our primary goal now is to restore our economy to some sense of normalcy.”
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Here’s a news item for you: You can’t expect our economy to go back to “normalcy” when socialist policies are being imposed in place of free-enterprise capitalism. Maybe if we could re-do the election….
123 mig // Nov 17, 2008 at 2:30 pm
BL3 - going down with the ship. Oh how very negative of you. You would like us to roll up and die, it would make it so easy for you. Victory does not mean slaughter. Don’t flatter yourself. The vote was 52%, not a landslide at all so keep wishing for the death of us, it ain’t happening.
Positive enough for you bobby? It should take me out of the running of Black Cloud Most Likely To Rain on Your Parade.
124 gafisher // Nov 17, 2008 at 3:05 pm
Citing a precedent he set in each previous elective office, President-Elect Barack Obama has begun preparations to resign the Presidency after five and one-half months to oversee construction of his Presidential Museum and Library and to begin work on the next in his series of best-selling memoirs.
Asked about the advance decision to turn the reins of government over to his Vice President-Elect after a seemingly arbitrary period, Obama assured reporters the timing had absolutely no significance.
125 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 17, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Disclaimer:
I remember those days (my late-teens, I guess) from the perspective of Columbus OH; I have Buckeye DNA in my mutant [but humble] string of chromosomes; I named my children Scarlet and Gray.
126 boberinyetagain // Nov 17, 2008 at 3:25 pm
major…”socialist policies are being imposed in place of free-enterprise capitalism”
Did Obama do that? He’s an amazing guy, not even in office and already he’s bailed out AIG and bought many of the larger banks.
What’s that you say? He’s not in office, he didn’t do those things? I wonder who did?
127 Fred Sinclair // Nov 17, 2008 at 4:33 pm
I’ve been reading about a lot of lawsuits demanding proof of B.O.’s having met the Constitutional requirements for the job. It’s looking more and more like a fait accompli (a thing that has already happened or been decided before those affected hear about it, leaving them with no option but to accept) a/k/a “Kangaroo Court”. I think it’s a tempest in a teapot, and as a result of my experience, I’m quite suspicious and probably cynical to boot.
If you, somehow by magic, had in your hands an “authenticated” original birth certificate proving that B.O. was actually born in Kenya, the MSM would make Governor Sarah Palin and Joe “The Plumber’s harassment smears look like a cakewalk. You would be vilified as the resurrection of the devil himself. They would go after you, your family and friends with the ferocity of an attack trained doberman/rottweilier. Then they would arrange for a Clinton appointed Federal Judge to have you declared mentally deranged and as is rumored to have really happened with Marylin Monroe you might disappear into the depths of an Alaskan Mental Hospital for the criminally insane. Or if that was too much trouble, you’d simply suffer an unfortunate accident. The MSM would probably ‘with great glee’ report that you in your remorse for the HOAX you attempted against their Saviour and Messiah you took the easy way out by “accidently” hanging yourself.
You can be pretty confident that the Birth Certificate would be hooted down in derision as being a genuine, faux, imitation “original”. And B.O. would continue to sit on his ‘throne’ as a modern day King Ahab, exercising with all the power of his Congress to out Ahab, Ahab. Striving valiantly to make King Ahab look like a sissy by comparison. (he was no sissy - just the man that God said was more evil than all the Kings that reigned before him. And that’s a great big bunch of bad.)
1Kings 16:30 And Ahab the son of Omri did evil in the sight of the LORD above all that were before him.
1Kings 16:33 And Ahab made a grove; and Ahab did more to provoke the LORD God of Israel to anger than all the kings of Israel that were before him.
Fortunately we can be confident that God is on the only real throne, in Heaven. ["This world is not my home, I'm just passing through..."] Soon enough we will shrug off the mortal coils of this world and will be able to meet Him, face to face. That will be glory - more than enough for this sinner, saved by God’s Grace. (though I’m in no hurry to leave before God’s plan for me is finished.)
128 onlineanalyst // Nov 17, 2008 at 6:21 pm
If I may ask a favor of our Scrappleface community, please vote for a particular contender at CNN’s Heroes of 2008.
Our Pennsylvania chapter of Delta Kappa Gamma, an international organization of women teacher-leaders, has designated “Ethiopia Reads” as our year’s project.
Go to http://heroes.cnn.com/default.as and vote for Yohannes Gebregeorgis, the founder of the program. You may vote as many times as you choose up to November 20.
Yohannes’s personal story is fascinating as it traces his interest in promoting literacy. The lending libraries that he has developed consist of carts of books led by donkeys in order to spread the gift of reading to the impoverished in his native country.
The CNN Hero of the Year will receive $100,000 for his/her cause. Winning this award provides a hand-on opportunity to make lives better and bypass the corruption that often infiltrates government aid programs.
Thanks ahead of time, and spread the good work
129 onlineanalyst // Nov 17, 2008 at 6:43 pm
The way that the media are trumpeting Obamao’s pronouncements, recommendations, and plans, one would think that he already shares a co-presidency with George Bush. (Did I miss an inauguration somehow? By what authority does his word have more weight?)
In recalling the months after President Bush’s inauguration, I note that there were repeated obstructions in approving his cabinet members. The Gore sour-apples crew did everything that it could to delay a smooth transition.
On the other hand, George Bush (like the adult that he is) has extended every effort to ease the transition to the executive for Obamao.
How odd that neither the media nor Obamao are gracious in acknowledging this statesmanship.
One other point needs to be made about when our economy started going south. If you check the economic figures, when the Dems took control of Congress, especially the purse-strings of the House in 2006, a lot of negative factors arose: fuel prices, food, prices, and unemployment.
Too many Dem figures are connected to the Fannie/Freddie boondoggle, the CRA and ACORN malfeasance, and credit-banking collapse. Chuck Schumer’s careless mouth led to the run on and collapse of the California-based bank (the name of which escapes me right now), Lehman Brothers and other banks collapsed shortly thereafter.
I am not supportive of nationalizing big sectors of our economy. More people than not suffer under such systems, history shows.
130 Pickerhead :: Pickings from the Webvine ::November 17, 2008 // Nov 17, 2008 at 6:54 pm
[...] Scrappleface says Obama resigned from Senate so he could write a new memoir. [...]
131 onlineanalyst // Nov 17, 2008 at 7:37 pm
Heh! I finish my waffle, and everyone else disappears.
My local newspaper ran an editorial cartoon not long ago, featuring two front page news items. In one newspaper, the headline is “Bush Wins: 51%- Country Divided”. The other headline is “Obama Wins: 52%- Country United”. Go figure…
I guess that the only “unity” we are seeing is a resurrection of Clintonistas in a marriage of convenience with partisan, Chicago-style thugs.
Here is an example of Obamao’s questionable judgment in his selection of White House counsel, a criminal lawyer of some high-profile anti-American clients. Cronies and political payback make for strange bedfellows. Why this fellow even prosecuted an FBI agent who once built a case against the Weather Underground.
The Audacity of Unethical Behavior: Or How I Rewarded Those Who Put Me into Power by Barack Obama, snake charmer extraordinaire…
132 mindknumbed kid // Nov 17, 2008 at 7:39 pm
It just seems to me that getting from here to the “end times” requires things to go downhill in a big way. What better than an Obama “reign” to begin the descent? As long as there is a healthy America that is willing to thwart evil around the globe I cannot see the end times coming about. the pressures to continually “give in” and “go along” have been effective enough to bring us to the brink of a “new America” and it is nothing like what we had when we accepted God’s role in maintaining our national morality.
We can roll up our sleeves and work together until Hell freezes over (and not the one in Michigan) and without returning to the God that causes nations to prosper it is all just exercises in futility. Man always thinks more highly of himself than humanity warrants.
From John chapter 15:
4Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
5I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
6If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
“Without me ye can do nothing”, but that can’t mean what it says, we just elected Barack Obama as our president, he will save us all!
133 onlineanalyst // Nov 17, 2008 at 7:40 pm
Try this CNN link to vote for Yohannes as a hero of 2008: http://heroes.cnn.com/default.asp
If it doesn’t work, try typing the address into your browser, the method that I used to access it.
134 Newsman // Nov 17, 2008 at 9:21 pm
onlineanalyst - Both Obamas have publically acknowledged the most gracious manner that George and Laura have both exhibited towards the transition !
135 onlineanalyst // Nov 17, 2008 at 9:44 pm
The Onion sums up the effects of post-election mesmerism well.
136 onlineanalyst // Nov 17, 2008 at 9:45 pm
Newsman, are you Chris Matthews?
137 DrivebyMeteor // Nov 17, 2008 at 10:09 pm
“Anyone who believes you can’t change history has never tried to write his memoirs.†~ David Ben-Gurion
138 MajorDomo // Nov 17, 2008 at 11:04 pm
Bober:
What’s that you say? Your boy’s a liar? He isn’t going to implement his socialist policies like he said he would, not going to redistribute wealth?
How awful! Maybe you should be complaining to him, not me.
139 everthink // Nov 17, 2008 at 11:18 pm
Whatever, y’all. It’s just more 62 days and a wake up. So do enjoy this paradise of yours while you may.
It is the end of an error.
ET
140 BlackLion31U // Nov 18, 2008 at 3:05 am
Gafisher #120,
I guess your right. Heck you may even get lucky and have Todd show up with one of his hopped up snow mobiles and draw all kinds of media to the area.
I’ll pass on the sub-freezing though no matter how sportsman like.
141 BlackLion31U // Nov 18, 2008 at 3:10 am
OLA #136,
Actually I think he is Sean Hannity.
j/k Newsman, that’s almost like calling you the devil.
142 BlackLion31U // Nov 18, 2008 at 3:11 am
now that I think about it, it is calling you the devil. Sorry man.
143 Darthmeister // Nov 18, 2008 at 9:47 am
Obama’s victory was apparently based on this kind of pathetic ignorance.
I’m sure there are the occasional Republican/conservative voters who are truly as uninformed and/or as dumb as a box of rocks like these people, but YouTube has any number of video surveys showing Obamatons in general having no clue whatsoever about real politics.
And what’s really scary these people appear to be intelligent, middle-class voters. I think we can thank the liberal education system and the national socialist media for dumbing the American people down like this.
Let’s see, liberal Democrats control our public educational system, universities, unions, large cities, the news media, the “popular” media, Hollywood, most state legislatures, both houses of the U.S. Congress, now the Presidency and pretty soon SCOTUS. How anyone on the other side of the aisle thinks they are getting a proper and diverse view of reality is beyond me since they clearly live in an echo chamber.
And it’s pretty apparent these people in the video are a product of this liberal Democrat stupidity/ignorance. Well, the communists did say they would cause America to fall from within.
A must see interview of a Soviet expert on propaganda who covers the four points of communists ideological subversion. It’s gets very interesting at 10:40 minutes into interview.
144 Darthmeister // Nov 18, 2008 at 9:53 am
Soviet expert interview here.
Keep in mind this interview was made over 24 years ago. He’s speaking about the subversive policies and principles of international communism/socialism, not necessarily about Soviet communism alone. As he rightly noted, it will be Americans “doing it” to Americans in their attempt to bring about their socialist utopia.
145 Darthmeister // Nov 18, 2008 at 10:08 am
Similarly … How the wacademic left helped elect Obama.
Until the American people are forced to confront the fact that our educational institutions have, for the large part, been turned into propaganda mills by American leftists … get ready to greet the new People’s Republik of Amerika.
146 Darthmeister // Nov 18, 2008 at 10:11 am
End of an error?
You leaving us, troll? I guess the rumors are true, Obama has been vetting you for his court jester.
147 Darthmeister // Nov 18, 2008 at 11:12 am
Bill Ayers’ positive review of a fellow Marxist’s tract entitled, “Notes From A Self-Realizing, Sensuous, Species-Being (I Think)”.
Mooooooonbat! These are the kind of people who stand behind if not propel fellow “species-beings” like Barack Hussein Obama.
BTW, forget waterboarding. If we can put garbage like this in the hands of Islamic terrorists, they’ll go insane.
148 Newsman // Nov 18, 2008 at 11:52 am
Onlineanalyst - Nope !
As for some of the education views expressed here, I do find myself in general agreement.
I am, and have been very concerned that our public educational system is not meeting our needs.
I am a staunch advocate of going back to just teaching the basics, such as Math,Geography,History, etc.
Never mind this bulldung Social Studies crapola!
If you simple teach the basics then the graduating student is amply equipped to get on with a workable life, be it go to college, get technical training, be a super salesman, whatever.
I do not believe in tossing religion or sex into the public education mix. I also do not advocate homosexualism/lesbianism being taught in our public schools as being a ‘normal way of life’. The basic purpose of all life is to procreate to keep the species alive and well.
In my view sex education is a private family issue, not the business of public government. No free condoms being distributed in our school systems. Seems to me that condones the issue.
I also don’t believe in these people who advocate that cities/towns can’t put up normal christmas displays that feature a christian view.
I have no objection at all to the ten commandments being featured on public buildings. After all, the basic moral structure of our country has its foundation in these commandments. They are good decent rules to guide one’s life by, no matter what your religious views may be !
149 onlineanalyst // Nov 18, 2008 at 1:25 pm
Newsman: You are obviously NOT Chris Matthews, considering the conservative/libertarian views you expressed at 11:52 am. Congratulations on distinguishing yourself from what passes as journalism in our popular media.
Informed citizens, the type that our Founding Fathers envisioned in forming our representative republic, may be a legacy of our past. Our schools have become indoctrination centers of cooperative learning of mush. Our news sources are woefully incurious and shabbily informed, lazy in producing no more than boilerplate narrative, and merely another avenue of entertainment. Too often interviewers ask inane questions, rarely follow up substantively on issues, and barely disguise their own political agendas.
I was goint to link to the video that Darthmeister posted at #143. It was going viral late last evening for good reason. Hotair has also posted it this morning; the comments at the site are telling.
BTW BL31U: Sean Hannity is not a journalist, nor has he ever claimed to be one. He is an opinion commentator who informs the public of information that they would never otherwise learn from the mainstream. (Consider what he shared about Obama’s history and relationship with Wright, Ayers, Rezko etal.) I’ll listen to Hannity in my car if his broadcast is on at the time I am commuting, but I am aware that too often I am ahead of him on the news curve.
Hannity, like Rush Limbaugh, who has a mind like a steel trap, merely confirm what I have already deduced for myself regarding conservative principles and a suspicion/disdain for a media that place propaganda, shallow sourcing, entertainment, weak programming of substanceless news as the filler of a time slot in the television’s wasteland.
150 onlineanalyst // Nov 18, 2008 at 1:48 pm
Er, “confirms” in the last paragraph. Proofreading is my friend.
151 gafisher // Nov 18, 2008 at 2:53 pm
Newsman Re#148: “… our public educational system is not meeting our needs.”
Certainly not since John Dewey got involved, though the cancer took time to metastasize.
152 Ms RightWing, Ink // Nov 18, 2008 at 5:03 pm
Actually Newsman sounds more like Rusty Humphries who is on in the late evening on talk radio.
His show comes on at 10 p.m. This is a much better alternative to Jay Leno or that nasty local news at ten.
If you can’t find him on your AM dial you can listen online on our local airwaves
http://www.640whlo.com/cc-common/mainheadlines3.html?
153 mindknumbed kid // Nov 18, 2008 at 6:20 pm
Prayer Request:
A friend named Dan sat beside me Sunday night at our local Wendy’s and we each feasted on a Wendy’s Double Burger. Last night Dan went to the hospital and fortunately (our local hospital is one of the places in Gillette you need to avoid) was transferred to a hospital in Casper where he underwent surgery to repair a brain aneurysm today just before noon local time. I have not heard anything since this morning. I would appreciate your prayers for Dan, his wife Shirley, and his family.
154 Darthmeister // Nov 18, 2008 at 6:30 pm
Newsman #148 … at least we agree on something. I give you an A+ on your post. Our experiment with government-funded liberal establishments of mass education, further compounded by the iron grip of the various national and state-level teachers’ unions, have been a dismal failure. Americans are getting dumbed down big time and Zogby’s recent video poll demonstrates this reality.
Obamanation: The Beginning of an Error?
For the next four years I want to be as fair as I can be. Where progress is actually made, I will give credit where credit is due, but where the liberal Democrats’ agenda is an abysmal failure, no quarter from me.
As I’ve said before, conservatives don’t need to lie nor do we have to embellish the failures of an Obama administration. Unless this guy is really messiah, he’ll not only find himself breaking one promise after another about substantive and positive “change”, but he’ll certainly find there are simply certain things that can’t be changed by wishful thinking or the judicious application of socialist political theory. But during his campaign, Mr. Obama had raised the bar, as well as people’s hopes, pretty high. If he fails he will only have himself and his ideology to blame. Unfortunately, the kind of failure that may happen will make us all the poorer and militarily weaker. Never has such an unaccomplished and inexperienced person ever been elected to the office of the presidency … not even Herbert Hoover or Woodrow Wilson.
May God save this nation from the folly of ill-informed Americans.
155 MajorDomo // Nov 18, 2008 at 6:32 pm
Dan has mine!
156 mindknumbed kid // Nov 18, 2008 at 6:42 pm
Thank you.
157 Fred Sinclair // Nov 18, 2008 at 6:46 pm
I believe it was Mark Twain who, having been appraised of his obituary being in the newspaper commented, “reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated.”
In the same vein perhaps in all open honesty B.O. could comment, “reports of my innocence have been greatly exaggerated.” That would represent actually bring truth to politics.
While B.O. may have a ‘hot shot’ defense lawyer on retainer to represent him regarding earthly matters, I can relax, comfortably content in knowing that on judgement day, I will be represented by the one true intercessor, Jesus the Son of God. Now that is representation at it’s highest level.
Not knowing whether or not B.O. is one of God’s elect, I can only hope that before his time comes he will become a “born again” Christian. (John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.)
News of his conversion would reverberate around the world announcing his commitment and dedication to a new way of life (Rom. 6:4) and in accordance with what God said by way of James (the brother of Jesus) on international television, B.O. made public confession of his faults (sins). (James 5:16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.) that would not only affect our current economic situation but also the economies of every nation on earth.
Come quickly, Lord Jesus.
158 mindknumbed kid // Nov 18, 2008 at 7:02 pm
I think that is the missing link. We missunderestimate the complete uninformedness of the majority of voters. You can only blame so much on the dismal educational system, and a bit more on the media. But in this era of information availability it is the citizen’s responsibility to get the information required to make an informed choice. Why on earth are there so many people going to the polls to vote when they do not have a clue as to who is doing what and why? The right to vote carries the obligation to know, and if you know you should be engaged, to some extent, in issues that affect you and your community. I think we should have to pass a civics exam and have a valid photo ID before we can step into a booth and cast a vote, we have cheapened our system of government by giving ignorance a voice. This is little more than a popularity contest where each contestant tries to outdo the other with promises of giveaways.
159 mig // Nov 18, 2008 at 11:08 pm
from Letty:
http://www.howobamagotelected.com/
160 mig // Nov 18, 2008 at 11:13 pm
#131 OLA
— Inside Washington, February 2, 2007.
Moderator Gordon Peterson: “Are the mainstream media bashing the President unfairly?”
Newsweek’s Evan Thomas: “Well, our job is to bash the President. That’s what we do.”
— MSNBC’s Morning Joe, November 6.
MSNBC’s Chris Matthews: “You know what? I want to do everything I can to make this thing work, this new presidency work, and I think that-”
Host Joe Scarborough: “Is that your job? You just talked about being a journalist.”
Matthews: “Yeah, it is my job. My job is to help this country….This country needs a successful presidency more than anything right now.”
161 RepublicanAttackMachine // Nov 18, 2008 at 11:40 pm
Newsman Re#148: I too, agree with everything you say in your post. At least there are things we can agree upon!
162 RepublicanAttackMachine // Nov 18, 2008 at 11:44 pm
I guess I should have said, I agree with MOST of your post. I think you can figure out the one thing I do not agree with.
163 mindknumbed kid // Nov 19, 2008 at 12:07 am
Good news, Dan is out of surgery. I’m assuming it went OK.
164 Ms RightWing, Ink // Nov 19, 2008 at 12:32 am
Mig Re:159
I was going to post that very thing. I just heard John Ziegler being interviewed on Rusty Humphries. If that isn’t enough to scare you I don’t know what is.
He is creating a documentary on the Obama dream (?). Again, if you Scrapplers haven’t seen this, you would do good to watch it.
http://www.howobamagotelected.com/
again
http://www.howobamagotelected.com/
165 Darthmeister // Nov 19, 2008 at 10:25 am
Jim Jones’ Kool-Aid Was The Same as the Left’s
Yet one more documentary/commentary making the point.
166 Darthmeister // Nov 19, 2008 at 10:31 am
mig, the double-standard of the national socialist media has never been so apparent. On the one hand the vast majority of the press apparatus has unfairly bashed the Bush Administration with little more than Democrat talking points, innuendo, spin, and half-truths, and now it wants to facilitate the Obamessiah Administration because it would be “good for the country”. Oy vey!
It’s amazing what unprofessional journalist Obamatons can rationalize, particularly when they go down the slippery slope of rank partisanship.
Of course the biggest joke is Matthews actually being considered as a “journalist”. Buwahahahaha.
167 Darthmeister // Nov 19, 2008 at 10:49 am
Headlines from sycophantic media during Obama Administration:
10% Unemployment: Gives Workforce Much Needed Time To Train For New, Higher-Paying Jobs
Los Angeles Hit With Dirty Bomb: So Far Death Toll Is Less Than 911 Under Bush
Influx of Terrorists Proves Their Hatred of America Is Diminishing
Full Constitutional Rights According to Islamic Fundamentalists: Bin Laden to Receive Welfare In Abstentia
Ford Goes Belly Up: Silver Lining, More Business for GM and Chrysler
Dow Remains at 6500: Demonstrates the Stability Inherent in New Socialist Economy
FISA: Being Used Only For National Good by Obama Administration
Conservatives Who Mocked President and Policies Will Get Justice Under New Hate Crimes Legislation
Presidential Worship Hours Are Being Extended As Nation Prospers
Republican Party Re-designated Terrorist Cell by Obama AG
168 Fred Sinclair // Nov 19, 2008 at 12:23 pm
mkk #163 - Good news indeed! - Keep us posted on Dan’s progress, there’s a bunch of us folk praying for his success.
On a lighter note - today is Mickey’s birthday! He turned 80 today!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, MICKEY MOUSE!!!
169 boberinyetagain // Nov 19, 2008 at 3:21 pm
time for recipes?
170 everthink // Nov 19, 2008 at 4:33 pm
The “Frogwalk” begins!
Cheney, Gonzales indicted for alleged prisoner abuse
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/18/cheney.gonzales.indicted/index.html?iref=newssearch
ET
171 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 19, 2008 at 7:15 pm
Change. Ha.
172 RedPepper // Nov 19, 2008 at 7:36 pm
JL3 #171: Yes, indeed, JL3!
Change!
Change in the Cabinet, for starters!
Clinton
Hacks
Are
Now
Getting
Everything!
173 Fred Sinclair // Nov 19, 2008 at 9:31 pm
RP #172 Change is good. Little pennies can grow up to become big dollars. Personally, I keep my change in the cabinet. If anybody’s running short look in the sugar bowl. Lots of nickels, dimes and quarters, maybe even a couple of half-dollars?
Most folks don’t like change. I’ve heard that the only people really interested in change is wet babies.
We can’t say that we weren’t warned. I’ve read that someone (some say Kruchev) made a statement that America would not be “taken” by military force but by feeding bits and pieces of socialism, over time and eventually the people will vote Socialism in as their preferred form of government.
Or in the words of Robert A. Heinlein, “When the people learn that they can vote themselves ‘cake and champagne’ and force you to pay for it, they will.”[Time enough For Love"]
The people of Cuba wanted ‘change’ and Castro gave it to them. People in Venezuela wanted ‘change’ and Chavez gave it to them.
Strangely enough, the people wanting ‘change’ don’t appear to be as happy as they thought they would be. Given the chance, I think they would call for a “do-over”. Unfortunately “do-overs” are out and now, having made their bed and they have to lie in it.
174 mindknumbed kid // Nov 19, 2008 at 11:37 pm
Thank you for praying, Dan is doing very well. He may even be released from the hospital as early as tomorrow. The Lord is good. They say that everyone that comes into his room is being told about the Lord, the nurses are said to be avoiding his room as much as possible. Continue to pray.
175 everthink // Nov 20, 2008 at 1:00 am
“Strangely enough, the people wanting ‘change’ don’t appear to be as happy as they thought they would be. Given the chance, I think they would call for a “do-overâ€.”
What planet do you live on?
Maybe you’re listening to Rush too much. Maybe if you’d stay away from Fox for while. Maybe if you just wait til you see the crowds on the Mall next January 20th, you’ll see the truth for once.
The people are just waiting for your presididiot to get out of the way!
ET
176 Fred Sinclair // Nov 20, 2008 at 3:00 am
Picked up from comments section @ Info.com: (adapted)
According to the Bible, those who will be soon attacking Israel will cause the end of humanity… for those who attack her… and not for those who don’t. According to the Bible, it’s God who will wipe them out, in a way that everyone will know who did it, Since 98 percent of what the Bible said would happen has already happened, and the signs He said to look for are here, the well… going to be very soon, you should be happy and thank God that you and He are on the same side.
177 Fred Sinclair // Nov 20, 2008 at 7:29 am
1) Illegal immigrants
Increasing T.V. leftist programming like “Wll & Grace” and “The Ellen DeGeneres (deGenerate?) Show”
2) Oriental’s purchase of American land and buildings
3) Uncapped growing Islamic enclaves with attendant “demands”
4) Socialist’s infiltration of our Government (moles)
5) Marxist’s infiltration of our schools
6) Socialist’s infiltration of our media
7) Socialist’s infiltration of our entertainment outlets
9) algore & his “Manmade Global Warming” hoax a/k/a “The Greening Of America”
10) Soon to be “President Elect” Barack H. Obama, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi and so many, many others of their ilk.
Heb. 12:1 Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,
Each and every one of these constitute a serious threat to freedom aka America.
I recall reading somewhere in the Old Testament (2 Kings I think) about Elisha being surrounded by a fearsome ring of ‘bad guys’ who had their blitzkrieg ( literally ‘lightning war.’) all planned out. His servant saw no way out, but Elisha told him that there is more that stand on our side than theirs. He then prayed that God would open his eyes so that he could see too. God opened the young man’s eyes and he could see a whole army of protection surrounding Elisha.
Likewise, more recently in the June War, aka “The 6 day War”, Israel was attacked by Egypt, Jordan, Syria, (with major assistance from Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Tunisia, Morocco and Algeria. Beset by vastly superior armies, little Israel smacked the stuffings out of the whole bunch of them, much to their chagrin, (or distress and embarrassment at having failed and been humiliated) I don’t think there were very many who disputed that God had a major hand in that incredible upset.
Now it’s America that’s on the line and with ten enemies “compassing us about” I believe prayer is our most effective weapon against these forces of evil aka “The absence of God”. Our God is a God who specializes in miracles and surely we are in need of one now.
Of course we have no one to blame but ourselves. We painted ourselves into this corner by the simple reality that we did nothing and “The Only Thing Necessary for Evil to triumph Is for Good Men to do Nothing. (The quote is from Edmund Burke, often regarded as the father of Anglo-American conservatism.)
178 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 20, 2008 at 7:42 am
Even if you don’t read the accompanying article, the graphic makes it worth a click.
179 Fred Sinclair // Nov 20, 2008 at 8:38 am
Jodi Miller of News Busters
“The recent election showed that those identifying themselves as Conservatives greatly outnumbered those identifying themselves as Liberals….. the numbers of Conservatives is expected to rise sharply, just as soon as Obama unveils his new tax plan.”
180 Fred Sinclair // Nov 20, 2008 at 9:52 am
My new T from “Conservative “T’s” (I love it!)
BUREAU OF
ALCOHOL,
TOBACCO and
FIREARMS
Should be a convenience store, not a government agency.
181 BlackLion31U // Nov 20, 2008 at 11:37 am
Down to 42 seats with two still at risk, Senate Republicans are in a deep funk. Some are in denial. Some want a return to conservative principles. Some want to cut deals. Some want more filibusters.
Others want to jump out a window — but they’re afraid they’d screw that up, too.
“We probably wouldn’t die,†a Republican Senate aide joked Wednesday. “We’d just lie there, hurt and suffering, which is not too much different from where we are now.â€
Now THAT is funny.
Fred, you talkin to yourself again?
182 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 20, 2008 at 11:57 am
“It’s the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine.”
Everybody dance!
183 Fred Sinclair // Nov 20, 2008 at 11:58 am
Once again from Jodi Miller of News Busters
Barack Obama is working on his new and third book, “The Idiot’s Complete Guide To Socialism”.
184 BlackLion31U // Nov 20, 2008 at 1:03 pm
Fred,
Obama will never compete. George has the market covered on “The Idiot’s Complete Guides”. I hear publishers are avoiding George like tha plague so he won’t be able to get any more out for a while but I’m sure he covers Socialism in his “Idiots guide To Becoming President”.
185 boberinyetagain // Nov 20, 2008 at 1:40 pm
DOH!
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Five of six Algerians must be released after nearly seven years of captivity at the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba, a federal judge ruled on Thursday in a setback for the Bush administration
Gosh, we are SO sorry about that. Can we give you a lift somewhere?
Do they get some “lovely parting gifts” at least?
What’s 7 years in the grand scheme of things? Sheesh!
186 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 20, 2008 at 2:42 pm
187 BlackLion31U // Nov 20, 2008 at 3:39 pm
JL3,
I don’t understand your point. Is there any question here that all men are created equal with certain inalienable rights?
188 BlackLion31U // Nov 20, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Maybe you were interpreting this to support the argument against Socialism?
If that’s the case, that wasn’t what President Kennedy was saying at all. He was referring to the Declaration Of Independence:
â€We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.”..
â€But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.â€
And so, we welcome President Elect Barack Obama!
189 BlackLion31U // Nov 20, 2008 at 4:23 pm
Interesting that the Founding Fathers would chose this wording:
“..that they are endowed by THEIR Creator with certain unalienable rights..”
I wonder why they didn’t say THE Creator?
190 Fred Sinclair // Nov 20, 2008 at 7:19 pm
“President Elect” Obama: Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! & a Ho, Ho, Ho - Oops - sorry ’bout that, I forgot, only Santa and pimps are allowed to use those last three. Well Tom Adkins piece about President Elect Obama is a hoot. really made my day! The election is far from from over. I hear on the radio people talking about “President Elect” Obama. Obama is not the “President Elect”!! Barring an overturn and reversal of the election, relating to the myriad of lawsuits - yet to be settled, relating to his real citizenship; the popular vote on Nov. 4th is merely an election to elect Electors.
The Electoral vote in December might make Obama the Presidential Elect (and in all probability may do just that) we’ll have to wait until Decmber15th (the first Monday after the second Wednesday in December) .
The lawsuit in California is the biggie! If (as well may be the case) Obama does not produce an original validated Birth Certificate then the State’s 55 Electoral votes will be blocked. The Electoral College elects the President - not the Popular vote. Kerry actually won the popular vote in ‘04 - The Electoral College elected Bush.
McCain, having conceded the election to Obama will be irrelevant. We will not know who the new President Elect is until the Electoral College formally cast their votes this upcoming December 15th.
Or in the famous words from the great Yogi Berra “It Ain’t Over ‘Til It’s Over”
191 onlineanalyst // Nov 20, 2008 at 7:43 pm
Yes, indeedy, the Mall and Pennsylvania Avenue will be packed to the gills with folks driven to the occasion by ACORN buses filled with slackers, those permanently on the dole, Marxist/Maoist college professors, Hollywood celebrity whores, and those of such ilk. It’s not as if these people have productive jobs or anything to keep them from attending.
Deceased voters and those who claimed park benches as their “residences” have place of honor on the top of the bus. The tombstones will keep them from falling off (the wagon, so to speak).
Will the dais for the swearing-in feature the once-sacred styrofoam Greek columns? (Recycling is the “green” thing to do!)
In these pressing economic times, how much will this lollapalooza cost? What will Michelle wear, and how much will she have spent on her fashion statements? Chris Matthews inists on doing the color commentary for this event…if he can only get the thrill out of his leg in time.
Good times, good times…
I saw my first “Obama is not MY president” bumper sticker on a car in a grocery parking lot today.
192 mindknumbed kid // Nov 20, 2008 at 8:40 pm
In Times Like These
Words and Music by Ruth Caye Jones
In times like these you need a Savior
In times like these you need an anchor;
Be very sure, be very sure
Your anchor holds and grips the Solid Rock!
Chorus
This Rock is Jesus, Yes, He’s the One;
This Rock is Jesus, the only One!
Be very sure, be very sure
Your anchor holds and grips the Solid Rock!
In times like these you need the Bible,
In times like these O be not idle;
Be very sure, be very sure
Your anchor holds and grips the Solid Rock!
Chorus
This Rock is Jesus, Yes, He’s the One;
This Rock is Jesus, the only One!
Be very sure, be very sure
Your anchor holds and grips the Solid Rock!
In times like these I have a Savior,
In times like these I have an anchor;
I’m very sure, I’m very sure
My anchor holds and grips the Solid Rock!
Chorus
This Rock is Jesus, Yes, He’s the One;
This Rock is Jesus, the only One!
Be very sure, be very sure
Your anchor holds and grips the Solid Rock!
193 mindknumbed kid // Nov 20, 2008 at 8:54 pm
“Their Creator” is more personal than “the Creator”. Either way it is the same God.
Funny how the left views the earth as being so delicate and fragile, we must care for it in just the right manner or it will die. Yet when it comes to our nation they are willing to try all kinds of unproven ideas and many that have been proven to fail is fair game too. I believe that we are going to see the end of capitalism within the first two years of Obama’s reign. I hope that I will be proven wrong though, I’ll welcome anyone who comes back in a couple of years and reproves that statement. I have my anchor, no worries here. What about you?
194 mindknumbed kid // Nov 20, 2008 at 9:23 pm
A person could have a little fun with that song and the “messiah”…
195 mindknumbed kid // Nov 20, 2008 at 9:28 pm
Not that I expect anything to come from the lawsuits, but if per say it is determined that Obama is not legally qualified then do we settle for Biden, or file suit against the DNC for election fraud for permitting a person not legally entitled to be POTUS to have been the nominee? Could it be the first do-over election for POTUS in history?
196 mindknumbed kid // Nov 20, 2008 at 9:35 pm
The entire issue should have been put to bed long before now, the DNC has no one to blame but themselves for everything that is going on with these lawsuits now. I think when there is reasonable doubt our right to know should have been given top consideration in the matter. To the Obamatons this is most likely seen as being more sour grapes, but what about the law? Should the law be honored?
197 mindknumbed kid // Nov 20, 2008 at 9:39 pm
Humm…Alinski, Ayers, Oprah, O’Donnell, Obama? Is there something about names that begin with vowels? Just wondering…
198 mindknumbed kid // Nov 20, 2008 at 9:41 pm
Oops! - Ott. Of course there are always exceptions, and that one is truly exceptional!
199 Darthmeister // Nov 20, 2008 at 10:51 pm
One man’s terrorist is another man’s liberal.
al Franken is challenging this vote in Minnesota! Boy, whatever happened to “make every vote count”, Dems?
200 gafisher // Nov 20, 2008 at 11:10 pm
BL31U Re#188: “… to provide new guards for their future security.â€
And so, we welcome President Elect Barack Obama!”
Oh, you’re gonna have such a hangover when the euphoria wears off!
201 BlackLion31U // Nov 21, 2008 at 12:00 am
Fred #190,
Ya, dream on buddy, we tried that in 2000. Your people set the precedent. It didn’t work then. It has less of a chance of working now thanks to the neo-cons.
202 BlackLion31U // Nov 21, 2008 at 12:11 am
mindknumbed kid #193
No it is NOT partner. In that one word the founding fathers recognized the freedom of religion. That each person has the freedom to worship their own God. Not necessarily the God that the founders personally believed in, or the God commonly recognized in Great Britain. And also in a way admitted the importance of the separation of church and state.
You are always healthy in my opinion to study the word for your own personal salvation. However, you cross over into dangerous territory when you try to apply that to earthly governments.
Try again Grasshopper.
203 BlackLion31U // Nov 21, 2008 at 12:14 am
Darth,
You’re listening to too much of entertainer Hannity dude.
204 BlackLion31U // Nov 21, 2008 at 12:21 am
gafisher #188,
No euphoria. Just relief. Those of us who voted against George W. Bush have had symptoms worse than a hangover for almost 8 years. It will be a pleasurable change when we don’t have to grit our teeth ever time we see the President of the United States speaks.
205 everthink // Nov 21, 2008 at 12:40 am
Hairbrain Ranger,
“The lawsuit in California is the biggie! If (as well may be the case) Obama does not produce an original validated Birth Certificate then the State?s 55 Electoral votes will be blocked.”
How about this one?
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/06/obama-birth.html
ET
206 BlackLion31U // Nov 21, 2008 at 1:00 am
Daannng Fred,
It must be a real hit to be wrong so often. OK, so, give up on the birth certificate thingy. You still have that he is a Muslim socialist that conspires with terrorists. Run, run like the wind with those pal.
207 BlackLion31U // Nov 21, 2008 at 1:03 am
Step away Darth and Fred,
Everthink ROCKS!!! You can’t hang.
208 Darthmeister // Nov 21, 2008 at 5:59 am
Obama Advisors to Public: Temper Expectations
Whaaaaaat? He sold himself as Messiah. Able to leap tall buildings in a single bound, get Islamic fundamentalists to love America, bring prosperity to the world and pay poor people’s bills, grow pretty flowers and make rainbows … blah, blah, blah. Well, if it doesn’t happen his disciples can always blame it on Bush.
Gee, I’m kinda disappointed. I mean, where’s the “change”, particularly since he’s appointed all the junkyard dogs of the previous Clinton Administration?
Wish I were a messiah-struck moonbat so I could look the other way and not notice the utter Obamocrisy to this point.
Blacklion, your cognitive dissonance is breathtaking, though your total fealty to your new messiah is a little disturbing.
209 Darthmeister // Nov 21, 2008 at 6:27 am
BTW, Blacklion, I haven’t the time to listen/read/watch either Hannity/Rush/(insert name of your least favorite “neo-con”). Seriously, I just don’t have the time since I work 55+ hours/wk at two jobs and am helping to pay for the left’s welfare/entitlement state.
The opinions I have are the result of taking what the lamestream media claims is “objective news” with a large dose of salt and reading between their lines, reading but ignoring the “news” at pseudo-intellectual echo chambers known as liberal blog (with whom your views sounds strangely similar, btw) and then finding alternative news carried by local news outlets (which are often ignored by the national socialist media if it doesn’t fit their agenda), independent foreign sources like the UK Telegraph and independent domestic news bloggers like Glenn Reynolds at Instapundit.
For example, though the following is more commentary, where else are you going to hear the following truth about, say, Obama’s pick of Eric Holder for U.S. Attorney General?:
As Deputy Attorney General, Holder was a strong supporter of restrictive gun control. He advocated federal licensing of handgun owners, a three day waiting period on handgun sales, rationing handgun sales to no more than one per month, banning possession of handguns and so-called “assault weapons†(cosmetically incorrect guns) by anyone under age of 21, a gun show restriction bill that would have given the federal government the power to shut down all gun shows, national gun registration, and mandatory prison sentences for trivial offenses (e.g., giving your son an heirloom handgun for Christmas, if he were two weeks shy of his 21st birthday). He also promoted the factoid that “Every day that goes by, about 12, 13 more children in this country die from gun violenceâ€â€“a statistic is true only if one counts 18-year-old gangsters who shoot each other as “children.†. . .
Holder played a key role in the gunpoint, night-time kidnapping of Elian Gonzalez. The pretext for the paramilitary invasion of the six-year-old’s home was that someone in his family might have been licensed to carry a handgun under Florida law. Although a Pulitzer Prize-winning photo showed a federal agent dressed like a soldier and pointing a machine gun at the man who was holding the terrified child, Holder claimed that Gonzalez “was not taken at the point of a gun†and that the federal agents whom Holder had sent to capture Gonzalez had acted “very sensitively.†If Mr. Holder believes that breaking down a door with a battering ram, pointing guns at children (not just Elian), and yelling “Get down, get down, we’ll shoot†is example of acting “very sensitively,†his judgment about the responsible use of firearms is not as acute as would be desirable for a cabinet officer who would be in charge of thousands and thousands of armed federal agents, many of them paramilitary agents with machine guns.
You certainly wouldn’t get this critical analysis based on undeniable facts from ANY national socialist media outlet and I bet dollars to donuts you and your ilk haven’t even come close to thinking much less embracing these very salient criticisms of Obama’s man Holder.
Nice try … but try looking in a mirror next time before you falsely accuse me of being a shill for someone else.
210 Hawkeye // Nov 21, 2008 at 9:30 am
et #205,
You’re reading old info my friend. Try reading something more up-to-date… like HERE or HERE.
211 onlineanalyst // Nov 21, 2008 at 11:25 am
For my own edification, I would like for the champions of President-Elect Obama to specify what changes or pluses will occur with this new administration and a Democrat-dominated Congress . It would help if those who take up this invitation would indicate why these are positives for our nation.
Let’s add another challenge: What is it about Obama’s selection of transition staff, Cabinet choices, and White House “cabinet” that makes this new administration a net positive for America? On what basis has this judgment been made?
Based on Obama’s non-existent executive experience and limited legislative record, why should Americans trust Obama’s judgment?
Please address any responses by referring to Obama’s plans, policies, and expertise only. President Bush is not the topic of this query.
212 boberinyetagain // Nov 21, 2008 at 12:42 pm
ola,
It comes down to one thing at this point…HOPE! It’s evident around the world. They, like most of us, are HOPING that America can be worthy of respect once more. We lost it when we invaded a country that had done us no harm and presented no credible threat.
My earlier, quite ignored post regarding those being held in Cuba ties right into that, is one of the reasons that we are not currently getting any respect back (well, causing a worldwide depresssion doesn’t put us in good stead either).
Granted, some held there may well be guilty of something but we’ve been too “busy” to say what that might be. The folks released yesterday were cleared of wrongdoing where they were PRIOR to being turned over (at our insistance) and held form years and years. What do you know? Turns out they really didn’t do anything, nothing whatever, just as the courts found lo those many years ago.
If you can’t see these things to be facts (the utterly deserved loss of resepct and the reasons) then there is no arguing. Trust me, the rest of the world sees them quite clearly.
That brings us back to HOPE. Admittedly, that’s all we have right now. A man that we HOPE will try a different approach. Most of us, most of the world sees that HOPE.
Obama might bomb out…but, until that happens…we are gonna continue to HOPE!
213 boberinyetagain // Nov 21, 2008 at 12:46 pm
And if he screws up, he’ll get no quarter from me. I’ll be all over him…watch for it
214 boberinyetagain // Nov 21, 2008 at 12:48 pm
As for the staff, did you expect/hope for a bunch of folks with no experience? Did you hope for/expect republicans? What sort of team would have pleased you exactly?
215 NeaL // Nov 21, 2008 at 1:13 pm
Has anyone looked into whether the President of the United States, any President, can be denied National Security Clearance?
Rather than providing an easy link to one point of view, here are 3 with differing perspectives:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2096260/posts
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-naif/debunking-obama-security_b_136813.html
http://arkansasgopwing.blogspot.com/2008/09/sarah-palin-national-security-clearance.html
216 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 21, 2008 at 2:13 pm
God Bless America
217 mig // Nov 21, 2008 at 2:33 pm
It has been now over a week since the election and we have seen entire gun stores sold out of ammo, guns, and just about every accessory. Obama (excuse me while I spit) has single handedly armed more people in the past week than any other president in history. These people have bought fighting weapons and the ammo that goes with them. Later they will want to learn how to use them. So “Thanks Barak!”
218 Hawkeye // Nov 21, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Bob #212,
If you are “hoping” for respect from the rest of the world… forget it. It ain’t hapennin’. No matter what America does, it’s wrong.
For example, was it wrong to push Saddam Hussein out of Kuwait? George H.W. Bush put together a coalition that included the Arab states. Most of the world backed us 100%. We got in, got the job done, and got out. Right?
But that didn’t stop Osama bin Laden from perpetrating 9/11 on the basis that Americans were merely present in Saudi Arabia. And then a lot of libs said “we deserved it”.
C’mon. Get real. Somebody, somewhere is ALWAYS gonna hate America. Poor countries hate us ’cause we’re rich. Muslim countries hate us ’cause we’re not Muslim. Socialists hate us ’cause we’re not socialist. Antisemitics hate us ’cause Israel is our ally. When we intervene, the world hates us. When we DON’T intervene, the world hates us. When the U.S. economy hiccups, the rest of the world goes apoplectic… and they hate us for it.
As the old saying goes, you can’t please all the people all the time. Regarding the U.S., you can’t please anybody… ever!
Get ready, your “hopes” are about to be dashed…
219 boberinyetagain // Nov 21, 2008 at 3:27 pm
Hawkeye, no argument that we can’t (and shouldn’t even try) please everyone, would be wasted effort.
However, to deny that there is exitement/hope spanning the globe for this move is to deny the obvious.
Granted, I/they/everyone might end up dissappointed. I wouldn’t surprise me one bit.
BUT (and this is a big BUT) we might NOT be either. Remind me which other president was ever greeted with such initial excitement either at home or abroad. Thus, the possibility exists.
Heck, if he doesn’t invade somewhere w/o good reason…1 point.
If he doesn’t hold “enemy” combatants for 7 years w/o ever exploring the veracity of that need…1 more point.
If he doesn’t condone torture…yet another point.
The “war” for resepect won’t be won with one action (it wasn’t lost that way either). both things happened/will happen in stages, one small step at a time.
To deny the POSSIBILITY of a new course, one that might garner more respect and (another biggie) world cooperation…is to deny what’s right in front of your eyes (whether he earned it or not)
In any case, the proof will be in the pudding, it’s currently impossible to laud or criticise actions/opportunities not yet taken.
But, the pieces for good things to happen are in place. we’ll see what he does with them.
I still beleive it could easily be good things but I’ll freely admit to having been wrong in the past. I just see MORE possibility for hope than I can remember…
220 BlackLion31U // Nov 21, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Shoot, Boberin,
You are on it! By the way, I don’t think #185 was missed. I caught it, just think you expressed it in a way that required no response.
I does appear to me that some of the anger is leaving the thread. That’s definitely welcomed.
221 BlackLion31U // Nov 21, 2008 at 3:48 pm
Hawkeye,
You bring up some good points. I think you’re correct someone will likely always hate the U.S. for something. But I don’t think the world as a whole has ever viewed us as badly as they do now. Our own allies have lost respect for us. I’m sure you’ve probably seen, but at the G-20 meeting, no one would shake the Presidents hand. Hopefully that will change.
222 Hawkeye // Nov 21, 2008 at 3:59 pm
Bob - BL31U,
I “hope” you’re right…
223 boberinyetagain // Nov 21, 2008 at 4:17 pm
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A top Republican said on Friday that Democratic U.S. President-elect Barack Obama is “off to a good start” and indicated he was pleased to see President George W. Bush get ready to leave.
“Our members, in one way, are kind of relieved by the departure of an administration that became unpopular and made it very difficult for us to compete,” Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell told reporters on Capitol Hill.
“I think the new administration is off to a good start,” the Kentucky senator said.
“They’re saying, in my view, all the right things … that they want to govern in the middle and tackle big things.”
McConnell added a cautionary note: “It would not be a good idea for the new administration … to go down a laundry list of left-wing proposals and try to jam them through.”
“I don’t anticipate they’re going to do that. I’m hoping for the best,” McConnell said.
Did he say “hoping for the best”?
Hmmmm
224 onlineanalyst // Nov 21, 2008 at 5:11 pm
FWIW: CNN says that Bush was not snubbed at the G-20 meeting.
225 BlackLion31U // Nov 21, 2008 at 5:32 pm
OLA,
Thanks for the update.
226 everthink // Nov 21, 2008 at 5:34 pm
OLA,
So, when greeted by the President in the United States in the United States they did not reject his handshake.
But, later when joined by other real world leaders they let him pass by like the half-wit imbecile egomaniac he is, without shaking his hand. Like, why waste a handshake, … besides he has “cooties”.
Thanks for clearing that up!
ET
227 Hawkeye // Nov 21, 2008 at 5:41 pm
Bob #223,
Did he say “hoping for the best�
Hmmmm
McConnell is warning the Obama administration against trying to push through nearly everything that Obama pledged to do during the campaign. He may be “hoping for the best”, but no doubt fears the worst. I’m sure that he’s not exhibiting the same kind of “hope” that you have.
228 mig // Nov 21, 2008 at 5:48 pm
Can’t wait another minute: “[W]e should move the president’s inauguration up to the first Tuesday in December, one month after the election. The new Congress should have its schedule moved from early January to early December. That would allow a few weeks before the holidays to get urgent business done. When the Constitution was framed, things moved more slowly. That may explain the March date. The January date was an improvement. But the time lag still is too long in these modern times when crises need the earliest possible attention. People who elect a new president are eager for the change to take place. The sooner the better.” -USA Today founder Al Neuharth
229 gafisher // Nov 21, 2008 at 9:26 pm
OLA Re#211: “For my own edification, I would like for the champions of President-Elect Obama to specify what changes or pluses will occur …”
They won’t be able to do that for a while, OLA. The specific changes keep, er, changing.
230 Darthmeister // Nov 21, 2008 at 10:01 pm
TOLEDO, Ohio – An agency director improperly used state computers to find personal information on “Joe the Plumber,†a government watchdog said in a report released Thursday.
There was no legitimate business purpose for the head of Ohio’s Department of Job and Family Services to order staff to look up the records, Inspector General Tom Charles said.
Investigators weren’t able to determine whether the searches were politically motivated, the report said.
Buwhahahahaha! Yeah, it was just coincidence. No dirty fascist Democrat tricks here … move along.
231 RepublicanAttackMachine // Nov 21, 2008 at 11:29 pm
boberin re#214, You said, “As for the staff, did you expect/hope for a bunch of folks with no experience? Did you hope for/expect republicans? What sort of team would have pleased you exactly?”
As for what I expected, he is doing EXACTLY that! That’s because I knew all along what a liar he is/was.
Perhaps you “O” worshippers forgot that he said that his Presidency was going to be different and NOT Washington as usual. That addresses number 1 question. For your number 2, he ALSO said he was going to work across the aisle, (and be a bi-partisan administration), and NO, if he appoints Chuck Hagle, or Dick Lugar to a post, that is NOT reaching across the aisle. BOTH would be considered Democrats only 4 years ago!
So O-blah-blah is doing EXACTLY what I expected he would, especially since he wants to pack his administration with experienced people, (even if it is packed with BAD experienced people), because the “O” has NO experience and that FACT will come to light very soon!
232 RepublicanAttackMachine // Nov 21, 2008 at 11:40 pm
Darth re:#230, She, (the criminal who “checked” on Joe), said that it was OK to check on ANYONE who is thrust into the public spotlight. I wonder why someone doesn’t check into her finances, and ENTIRE private life, since she has now been “thrust” into the spotlight?
Precident has been set that it is OK by Inspector General Tom Charles for anyone who works in Ohio!
Feel free to check on him also because now the “spotlight” is on him too!
233 mig // Nov 22, 2008 at 9:24 am
The way you Mecca me feel! MICHAEL JACKSON has become a Muslim — and changed his name to MIKAEEL. Mikaeel is the name of one of Allah’s angels.
Yousef Islam, 60 — who was called Cat Stevens until he famously converted — turned up to help Jacko celebrate.
Prince Abdulla Al-Khalif of Bahrain bankrolled the singer’s lavish lifestyle in exchange for an exclusive recording contract. The billionaire sent songs for him to record but claims he was blanked. Now they are in court.
Holy Lying!
234 Ms RightWing, Ink // Nov 22, 2008 at 10:20 am
Mig
I just can’t see Meekel the Fecal in a turban. So Islam condones child molesters. Hmm, now I see why they don’t let women talk-they know to much.
So is Scott taking a break after his long run for president? The way I see things, the 2012 elections run starts in January
235 mig // Nov 22, 2008 at 10:27 am
A South Florida college student killed himself by overdosing on drugs in front of a live online audience as some computer users egged him on, some debated his method, and others tried to talk him out of it. Here
236 Deerslayer // Nov 22, 2008 at 10:28 am
BO’s cabinet is shaping up to about what I expected. Of course he has to draw from the Clinton pool. Since he has had NO previous administrative experience, he has no associates with administrative experience. The talent pool he brings to Washington is no deeper than a August puddle in Phoenix.
237 mig // Nov 22, 2008 at 10:29 am
Ms. RW
I was wondering about the whole little boy thing. Embrace it. There is a picture of Meekel ( spelling is like Lion King or something) and he looks like he is wearing a burka.
238 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 22, 2008 at 10:31 am
Mitch McConnell says that “42 Republican Senators represent 157,000,000” citizens of The United States of America.
In response to this I stood up as tall as I could (66.25″), stretched my quivering right index finger as far as it would go (in the senator’s direction) and said, “PROVE IT!”
239 mig // Nov 22, 2008 at 10:32 am
Deerslayer
Most of the Obama voters look back on the Clinton years as the best years. Nostalgia. So between recreating Vietnam in Iraq and recreating ‘baby boomers come of age’ Clinton years, I can really see the change in my rear view mirror.
240 mig // Nov 22, 2008 at 10:58 am
So Kerry was recently named chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. We now have a confessed war criminal in charge of the Foreign Relations Committee. That’s a change, all right.
241 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 22, 2008 at 12:47 pm
We have yet to, and never will, see any memoirs of BHO that go beyond facile superficiality. The memoirs of his string-pullers on the other hand…..
242 Newsman // Nov 22, 2008 at 5:33 pm
RepublicanAttackMachine - so you could do better ?
You remind of these guys with big pot bellies who sit on their fat arses and scream critically at football players in a game on TV. Themselves ? They couldn’t run ten yards without huffing and puffing and then dropping dead of a heart attack.
243 Fred Sinclair // Nov 22, 2008 at 5:49 pm
HOPE It seems a lot of folk are swinging on a perilous thread. For instance I HOPE that someday I’ll be wheeling down the sidewalk in my Hoveround and find a lotto ticket just lying there. I’ll pick it up and HOPE it ends up being the single winning ticket. I HOPE that after paying the income tax I’ll have several million dollars left. Now I know that HOPE springs eternal and that without HOPE, all is lost
1Cor. 15:19 If in this life only we have HOPE in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.
But my HOPE in Christ is based on my belief by faith.
HOPE in Obama, is based on lies, stacked one upon another as he seeks to lead America down the broad highway to Socialism and destruction.
Ronald Reagan gave America HOPE based on the proven track record of Conservative values and of course he delivered as has every Conservative throughout history.
Socialism however has yet to produce even one (1) example of success. From the total abysmal failure in Russia (USSR) to the horrors of West Germany, North Korea, Cuba, North VietNam, Venezuela, etc.
And Obama and his cohorts primary mission is to bring America into line with these obvious failures. His entire being is to act as the marionette for whoever it is pulling his strings.
244 Fred Sinclair // Nov 22, 2008 at 5:55 pm
#243 - Oops that should read “East Germany” NOT “West Germany”!!! My bad, my very big bad!!! My apologies to all.
245 mig // Nov 22, 2008 at 8:45 pm
President-elect Barack Obama yesterday selected former Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle of South Dakota to become the next Secretary of Health and Human Services. Thought we’d seen the last of him, aye?
Tooooom Dachle.
246 mindknumbed kid // Nov 22, 2008 at 10:34 pm
There is more than one Creator?
247 mindknumbed kid // Nov 22, 2008 at 10:35 pm
OK, prove that one.Co
248 mindknumbed kid // Nov 22, 2008 at 10:36 pm
Push
249 Ms RightWing, Ink // Nov 22, 2008 at 11:04 pm
The press just couldn’t help themselves. A good article but it has many disparaging remarks. Good read though. Palin, I believe has more speaking engagements than ol’ Bill.
Gov. Palin’s popularity skyrocketing; has 800 requests for appearances in upcoming months
http://www.in-forum.com/articles/index.cfm?id=222797§ion=news
250 Fred Sinclair // Nov 23, 2008 at 12:48 am
It’s all over the place “President-elect this”, President-elect that”.
He is acting as if Jan 20th has come and gone. While it’s possible that B. Hussein Obama may become the “President-elect” In fact, in all probability he will be voted on and “win” the election for the Presidency besting Senator John McCain; but until Monday, Dec. 15th, 2008 there isn’t anybody that’s won anything yet.
On the first Monday following the second Wednesday in December, the Electors will meet in their respective State Capitals and cast their vote for the President. I recall that there are about 21 States where they can be prosecuted if they fail to vote the way the ‘popular’ vote dictated. That leaves 29 States (plus D.C. that finally got an Elector) where the Electors may or may not vote the ‘popular’ dictate. (It has happened more than once) John F. Kerry - 2004 being a case in point where he won the popular vote but the Electoral College voted for Bush who as everyone knows is the current President of the USofA. AFTER the Senate and House of Representatives count the Electoral votes, then, and only then, will Obama most probably become the “President Elect” until such time, he is The Presumptive President Elect.
I’ve heard there’s many a slip between the cup and the lip and the Electoral College could give the Presidency to McCain/Palin
Not that they would because the ensuing carnage would be too horrible to contemplate. It would take weeks perhaps even months for the riots to fade away.
McCain would likely refuse it if the did give it to him, but there are still a goodly number of lawsuits to be settled between now and Dec. 15th. Or, in a deceptively simplistic observation, there’s the words of the famed Yogi Berra “It ain’t over ’till it’s over.”
251 RepublicanAttackMachine // Nov 23, 2008 at 4:14 am
Newsman: You must be straight out of the LAME stream media, complete with “putting words in other people’s mouths”. I NEVER said I could do any better, BUT, the big difference is, I would NOT have LIED and said I would do something and then do the OPPOSITE and I would not have “claimed” I had experience, as Obama the moron did!
People like you don’t even know how ignorant you look when you FALSELY accuse someone of something.
Get that BEAM out of your eye before you attempt to remove my splinter.
As for “reminding” people3 od somebody, YOU remind me of EVERY lib.
Have some more Kool Ade, clone!
252 onlineanalyst // Nov 23, 2008 at 9:30 am
In other news, Jimmy Carter and Kofi Annan are forbidden to enter Zimbabwe. How bad is it there that the two who brokered and protected Mugabe’s election are personae non grata?
How much of our GDP will Obama funnel through the Global Poverty Initiative to failed African states? When corrupt leadership in those countries keeps aid from reaching the very people that it is intended to serve/save, how can naive policy address the problem?
Re Obama and my #211 challenge: I have yet to read a response that is anything more than nebulous mush. I’m not interested in accepting campaign slogans as ideas or policiy positions.
I will grant that the Obama selection of the new Treasury secretary promises some positives to address the Democrats’ instigated credit crash. When Barney Frank, Christopher Dodd, Chuck Schumer and the like are hauled before a demanding investigative committee, perhaps we will have some justice.
The first item of business for Congress is to defund ACORN from the federal budget and to make null and void the provisions of the CRA. No more tax money or federal guarantees should be supporting political entities and the giant sucking hole of guaranteeing housing for the credit-unworthy in the name of spreading the wealth.
As far as ICE is concerned, Chertoff has been a joke. Napolitano will be a travesty. (Is this the judgment that we can expect in the Obama presidency? The learning curve of Obama’s on-the-job training will be steep, and he is well on his way to becoming a pawn of the Clinton masters.)
Newsman: It is Obama who made the claims about changing the ways of Washington re staffing. We’re accustomed to his reneging and walking back a lot of his campaign rhetoric though, even during the runup itself. For a newsman, you certainly don’t avail yourself much to primary statements by Obama and fact-check to verify them.
253 mig // Nov 23, 2008 at 9:54 am
Barry says only one president at a time, but Chris Matthews again has the American Solution with his leftist pollution…
Thanksgiving is next week, and President Bush could make it a really special holiday by resigning. Seriously. We have an economy that’s crashing and a vacuum at the top. Bush — who is currently on a trip to Peru to meet with Asian leaders who no longer care what he thinks — hasn’t got the clout, or possibly even the energy, to do anything useful. His most recent contribution to resolving the fiscal crisis was lecturing representatives of the world’s most important economies on the glories of free-market capitalism.
Putting Barack Obama in charge immediately isn’t impossible. Dick Cheney, obviously, would have to quit as well as Bush. In fact, just to be on the safe side, the vice president ought to turn in his resignation first. (We’re desperate, but not crazy.) Then House Speaker Nancy Pelosi would become president until Jan. 20. Obviously, she’d defer to her party’s incoming chief executive, and Barack Obama could begin governing.
254 onlineanalyst // Nov 23, 2008 at 10:09 am
Boberin: As Hawkeye stated on November 21, courting popular opinion is a no-win proposition and decidely no way to conduct foreign policy.
The AUMF had resounding approval from Congress. A coalition of multiple nations agreed to depose Iraq. When setbacks occurred, the wobbly began to rewrite the history of the Iraq liberation and the decisions leading up to it.
Many nations rely on the military might of the US for their security. The US carries the burden for NATO while most of the member nations have dedicated their budgets to tax-extortionary social programs at the expense of their own defense. The adult leaders of those nations recognize the debt they owe to the generosity of America. Their media and the people influenced by its anti-American bias, not so much.
Yet to a nation, the desire to emigrate to the US and its opportunities is a reality in the world.
The self-absorbed Sanchez of CNN may want to perpetuate an anti-Bush sentiment with his misleading “snub” story, but the facts of the G-20 event say otherwise.
Let me share an anecdote posted by alflauren at hotair on November 22:
This reminds me of a story I once read about former SoS George Schultz.
He would call the new foreign service recruits into his office, would point to the globe on the desk, and ask them, “Where is your country?†Inevitably, the recruits would point to the country for which they had been trained - Germany, Morocco, Brazil, etc.
Schultz would respond by spinning the globe over to the USA and pointing, “no, HERE is your country.â€
That’s what the State Dept. people still don’t get - they’re not out to be the go-betweens for foreign governments. They’re out there to represent the interests of the USA.
I daresay that I have done a little more international travel than you, boberin, even during this era of the Iraq and Afghanistan engagement. The United States is not deplored as you suggest. Any anti-Bush sentiment is perpetuated in places where Marxist-inspired political factions flourish.
255 onlineanalyst // Nov 23, 2008 at 10:23 am
Correction: “to depose Saddam Hussein”
Mig: Not only is Matthews a partisan hack, but he is an ethically challenged journalist. Somebody needs to remind this fool that we do not live in a mob-ruled banana republic and that nearly half of the country rejected the proposition of an Obama presidency.
To even consider Pelosi as an interim leader, she whose “leadership” marked the beginnings of rising fuel prices and fiscal disaster, gives me fatal heartburn. Her train-wreck of running the House has led to an historically low approval rating of Congress. While she is off saving the planet and complaining about Republican lack of ethics, she is unable to understand that her political ideas will bankrupt the nation further and that her own caucus and that of her best-buddy Reid have membership that should be in federal prisons.
256 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 23, 2008 at 12:40 pm
I find it heartening to see that more and more Leftist Traitors are beginning to funnel more and more of their psychotic hatred toward their very own symbiotic host, the Democrat party.
257 gafisher // Nov 23, 2008 at 4:49 pm
Not me, JL3 Re#256. It’s like a Muslim wedding — they’re shooting live ammunition, and they neither know nor care where it comes down.
258 mindknumbed kid // Nov 23, 2008 at 4:50 pm
Why doesn’t the word of God say “The Creator” instead of “thy Creator”? Is that because Christ as Creator believes in other Creators?
Ecclesiastes 12:1
Remember now thy Creator in the days of thy youth, while the evil days come not, nor the years draw nigh, when thou shalt say, I have no pleasure in them;
259 gafisher // Nov 23, 2008 at 5:02 pm
mkk Re#258: in a word, no.
“The” creator is impersonal, while “thy” implies responsibility. Neither really indicates multiple Creators, but Scripture’s usage makes it clear only one really matters anyway.
260 mindknumbed kid // Nov 23, 2008 at 5:40 pm
We have been constantly fed lies for truth, from Glowbull Warming to the Iraq War, to the current financial crisis. In order for Barry-O to be an effective leader of the nation he is going to have to govern counter to what has been sold as truth. The proposals to save the planet from CO2 emissions will destroy our economy. If we fail to deliver a system that realizes freedom for the Iraqi people (especially religious freedom) it will have been all for naught. And with all of his anti-capitalist “friends” there is no better excuse to “change” our system than the current “crisis”. These obstacles are more than I believe any president could overcome in a manner that would be culpable to the masses.
But the bigger problem is the rejection of Christ within our national soul. Christianity is the only “tolerant” religion where you can have true freedom of religion as a nation. Other “religions” will not tolerate freedom of religion. That is why throughout the middle east there are laws thwarting the efforts to evangelize. It is why in China believers are persecuted and the church is forced to meet in secrecy.
As Christians we have been given a job.Matthew 28:18-20
18And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
19Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
That is one of the purposes for the founding fathers having given us our freedoms, so that we may speak and preach our consciences without fear, that we may obey our Creator. When we lose our freedom to speak the truth of the gospel and are charged with hate speech or inciting violence because of our stand for the teachings of the Bible, our nation will have gone beyond God’s blessing and will be destroyed. We may be the agents of destruction ourselves, or it could be another nation that rises up and conquers us. However it happens, the cause will be the rejection of Christ as our Lord and our disobedience to his word.
261 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 23, 2008 at 5:55 pm
Jesus Christ does not believe anything.
262 mindknumbed kid // Nov 23, 2008 at 6:03 pm
gafisher- re#259: Precisely - man can attribute someone other than Christ as being their creator, but it does not change the fact that Christ is the Creator, and therefore when the founders referred to us being endowed by our Creator, they knew it was Christ, and not whomever each individual perceived his creator to be. They used a capital “c” when they referred to the Creator, a recognition of deity.
If we were talking about light bulbs then saying their creator could refer to the particular manufacturer, or to the creator of the incandescent light bulb, Mr. Edison. But not so with humanity, our Creator is also the Creator.
John Chapter 1 says:
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2The same was in the beginning with God.
3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
263 mindknumbed kid // Nov 23, 2008 at 6:12 pm
That would be because Jesus Christ knows all things.
(my thoughts today are in response to #189,193 & 202)
264 mindknumbed kid // Nov 23, 2008 at 6:52 pm
Here is an example of Christians “causing trouble” and why the left will most likely try to place restrictions on our freedoms as Christians.
http://americansfortruth.com/news/h8ing-christians-video-shows-aftermath-of-homosexual-mob-attack-on-christians-in-san-franciscos-castro-district.html#more-2410
265 Fred Sinclair // Nov 23, 2008 at 8:58 pm
CORRECTION MY #250
I wrote, “John F. Kerry - 2004 being a case in point where he won the popular vote but the Electoral College voted for Bush….”
I got the wrong one, it was Gore that won the popular votes.
My bad; Bush in 04 - 62,028,285, Kerry 59,028,109
(it was the 2000 election. I got it confused with Bush in ‘00 - 50,456, 002 (47.87%) Gore 50,999,897 (48.38%) Nader 2,882,955 (2.74%).
So actually, Gore won the popular vote -remember the ‘hanging chads’ in Florida? - It ended up in the Supreme Court. The Electoral votes from Florida went to Bush, giving him the win.) Kudos to those who caught my error.
I hate it when I’m wrong but it was me that was wrong and I have to own up to it with a correction.
266 Fred Sinclair // Nov 23, 2008 at 9:19 pm
mkk #264 - reminded me of Paul in his second letter to Timothy:
2Tim. 3:12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
2Tim. 3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
Until Christ returns I can find nothing, where in the last days anything will get better and better. I believe we are at the end of those last days. I hope to still be alive at His return.
267 onlineanalyst // Nov 23, 2008 at 10:21 pm
Heh!
268 Darthmeister // Nov 23, 2008 at 11:49 pm
TIME Magazine’s Mark Halperin: “Disgusting Media Bias” for Barack Obama
Hmmmm. Thank you for your insightful honesty Mr. Halperin, but don’t you think it’s a little late for your epiphany?
BTW, Newsman, why don’t you try Googling “Kill Joe the Plumber”. These are the kind of closet fascist whack jobs on your side of the aisle. If you can get past the many references to the SF radio host who spewed this venom, you’ll find any number of liberal/left blogs echoing the same sentiment.
Yeah, “change” is in the air alright since the election of Obamessiah, and your side of the aisle is becoming increasingly dangerous to even the average American citizen with its feral hate and lies.
269 Darthmeister // Nov 23, 2008 at 11:50 pm
… testing 1 … 2 …. 3
270 mindknumbed kid // Nov 24, 2008 at 12:40 am
Luke 18:8
I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?
Passages such as this would definitely indicate that in the time prior to the return of Christ there will be some hard days. It will be a time that separates the professing believers from the people who know Christ as their Savior. As the days grow nearer we need to get closer to him, I see no sign of things turning around.
1 Corinthians 10:12
Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.
271 Fred Sinclair // Nov 24, 2008 at 1:32 am
Pamela Lewis, with a degree in Astrophysics, has this comment on “The American Thinker”
“…. If you believe in God, shame on you for not taking care of this planet. You would rather see it destroyed. I believe in God and believe in saving the planet as the Lord said we are keepers of this planet. If you don’t then you must believe in greed, hatred and hostile racism towards President Elect Obama.”
I’m still trying to figure what algore’s “carbon footprint” HOAX has to do with “….hostile racism towards President Elect Obama.”
(that should be amended to read “Presumptive President Elect Obama.”)
I’ve even heard Rush call him “the President Elect” Shame on you Rush, old buddy. Of all people, you should know better.
So if you’re smart enough to steer clear of algore and all his hype surrounding “The Great HOAX”. That is proof that you are greedy, a hater and a racist.
But it figures - makes about as much sense as the rest of the nonsense she wrote.
And btw Pamela, you wrote, “…..as the Lord said we are keepers of this planet.” Sorry Pamela, I looked and couldn’t find the verse you cite.
Instead I found that God had a garden and He placed Adam in there as His gardener — later God told Adam and Eve; “Gen. 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.” I don’t see God designing Adam and Eve so that their exhaled breath (carbon dioxide) could eventually destroy His creation of the world.
Nothing I can see there about us being the keepers of this planet or harboring racism toward Obama.
272 Libby Gone // Nov 24, 2008 at 5:56 am
Greetings all!
How ya doing Fred?
273 mig // Nov 24, 2008 at 7:37 am
Don’t forget to add a soldier to your christmas list:
A Recovering American Soldier
c/o Walter Reed Army Medical Center
6900 Georgia Avenue,NW
Washington,D.C. 20307-5001
274 mig // Nov 24, 2008 at 7:42 am
Hey ya LibbyGone!
How’re things in your neck of the woods?
275 Hawkeye // Nov 24, 2008 at 9:03 am
Morning all. Hi Libby!
276 mig // Nov 24, 2008 at 9:45 am
Oops, Matthews has had a turn around on the Clinton appointment. Maybe the only drama will be Matthews himself.
With the news of Hillary Clinton as the incoming Secretary of State, Matthews called it “an astounding gesture of magnanimity.” Taking a swipe at the outgoing Bush administration, Matthews claimed the world is “waiting to see us back in that family of nations” and touted Bill Clinton’s popularity around the world. Matthews even opined that despite past primary rivalries, the Hillary Clinton-Barack Obama “relationship is going by swimmingly.”
Think Mattews realized that if he starts questioning the One now he may not get to sleep in the Lincoln bedroom?
“Obama is determined to pick the strongest, smartest people he can find, knowing that he is facing an economic crisis of historic proportions.”
A Nexis search turned up no references on NBC, in December 2000-January 2001, to President-elect Bush’s “all-star cabinet” though it featured some stars, such as Colin Powell.
And then there is this, remember that while the Stock Market was tanking, it was Bush’s fault ( and the Democrat Party controled congress has zero culpability in any of it ) and now that its rebounding it must be the FabObama! Brace yourself for these comparisons for the next 4 -8 years.
NBC Nightly News put “OBAMA MOVES THE MARKET” on screen as anchor Brian Williams teased: “On our broadcast here tonight, Obama moves the market. Stocks go on a huge rally with first word of the President-elect’s choice of a Treasury Secretary.” As he set up Mitchell, viewers saw “TAKING ACTION” beneath a picture of Obama.
277 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 24, 2008 at 9:52 am
I now have 4 followers on Twitter—Oh! the pressure…..
278 RepublicanAttackMachine // Nov 24, 2008 at 11:24 am
mig re:#276, That “Obama moving the market” kills me!
For the last several months, the stock market has been up and down in the HUNDREDS of points, but now, all of a sudden it is Obama that is making it move with his appointments.
Of course, he ONLY makes it move UPWARD, not down. And all the trolls, say it is too early to BLAME obama for anything, but it is OK to give him credit for something that he had nothing to do with!
The MAIN reason for the big downturn is the “market” knows he will tax capitol gains, and so be prepared for a BIG, let me repeat B-I-G sell off before January 20th to keep from being taxed at the “Obama tax rate”!!!
279 everthink // Nov 24, 2008 at 11:35 am
Jimmy,
I don’t think those are “followers” in the sense you mean. Are your “followers” wearing uniforms, or white coats? Are they carrying a net?
Have you ever heard of a “Napoleon Complex”?
Maybe you should get down off your little box and go with your nice “followers”. Maybe they can help you with your “pressure”.
As always, your pal
ET
280 mig // Nov 24, 2008 at 11:38 am
The Environmental Protection Agency’s (EPA) Advance Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (ANPR) foreshadows new regulations of unprecedented scope, magnitude, and detail. This notice is not just bureaucratic rumination, but could very well become the law of the land. Jason Grumet, a senior environmental advisor to Barack Obama, has promised that a President Obama would “initiate those rulings.”
These rulings offer the possibility of regulating everything from lawn-mower efficiency to the cruising speed of supertankers. Regardless of the chosen regulatory mechanisms, the overall ecoÂnomic impact of enforced cuts in carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions as outlined in the ANPR will be equivalent to an energy tax.
281 everthink // Nov 24, 2008 at 11:50 am
Fred,
“Instead I found that God had a garden and He placed Adam in there as His gardener …”.
Wrong, look again false prophet.
No toil; no planting, no weeds, but always a plentiful daily harvest.
ET
282 everthink // Nov 24, 2008 at 11:58 am
“though it featured some stars, such as Colin Powell.”
And?
ET
283 Hawkeye // Nov 24, 2008 at 1:34 pm
Sign the petition to see Obama’s birth certificate. Click on the link below…
Petition
284 mig // Nov 24, 2008 at 1:35 pm
From Free Republic
About twelve minutes into a Detroit radio station’s interview with Kenyan ambassador Peter Ogego, he is asked whether or not monuments will be erected in honor of Obama’s elevation to the United States presidency.
Ogego responds that a monument will be erected at Obama’s birthplace in Kenya, which is already a site of pilgrimage: “His birthplace is already an attraction…it’s already well known.â€
Obama’s Kenyan grandmother has also asserted that he was born in Kenya, not the United States. The Constitution bars those born outside of US territory from becoming President.
There are also lawsuits pending — including one by Obama’s former Senate campaign opponent Alan Keyes — challenging Obama to provide proof of citizenship eligibility to take office. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas has put this isssue on the docket for the Court to review on December 5th.
285 mig // Nov 24, 2008 at 1:38 pm
From NPR
What makes you think the $25 billion would even be enough?
Rep. Barney Frank: We don’t think it would be enough.
286 Hawkeye // Nov 24, 2008 at 1:52 pm
Wow! They found Obama’s birth certificate… HERE.
287 RepublicanAttackMachine // Nov 24, 2008 at 2:21 pm
Hawkeye: There is a black “Reverend” in Indianapolis threatening “CivilWar” if people do not drop the birth certificate request. I have emails from him.
288 boberinyetagain // Nov 24, 2008 at 3:51 pm
Birth Certificate…seems to be right here…sorry folks…
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
289 NeaL // Nov 24, 2008 at 4:12 pm
It has been 11 days since Scott’s last post.
Is he taking a break?
Gone on vacation?
Sick?
Just curious. I hope all’s well.
290 BlackLion31U // Nov 24, 2008 at 4:26 pm
Good Job Boberin.
Hey maybe the confusion was caused because The President Elect is Barack Hussein Obama II.
Barack Hussein Obama I, is a native of Kenya except he didn’t run for President. Nice try Hannity, Rush, Fred.
291 boberinyetagain // Nov 24, 2008 at 4:28 pm
I dunno, that took about 8.5 seconds to locate. What’s the “hubbub”?
292 NeaL // Nov 24, 2008 at 4:37 pm
It has been 11 days since Scott’s last entry.
Is he on vaction?
Taking a break?
Sick?
Just wondering. I hope all is well.
293 J. Cougar Melancholy // Nov 24, 2008 at 4:54 pm
Hey!
Someone cuss on this thing to see if Scott’s still alive. If he deletes it, I won’t have to get my black suit dry-cleaned.
Alright, I’LL do it:
Hellfire!
294 BlackLion31U // Nov 24, 2008 at 5:27 pm
MKK #247,
Prove that there is one!
Prove that those who believe in Islam, Bahai, Sikhism, Jainism, Hinduism, Scientology, Judaism, have any less commitment to “THEIR” beliefs than you do of yours.
The point here is that it is your FAITH, and you me and every other American has a right to believe as they wish.
295 BlackLion31U // Nov 24, 2008 at 5:30 pm
Without interference from or influence of the government.
296 boberinyetagain // Nov 24, 2008 at 5:36 pm
JCM, not strong enough…let’s try [deleted]
That should tell the tale
297 mindknumbed kid // Nov 24, 2008 at 9:17 pm
BL31U -So if you are committed enough to your belief you are OK? The only absolute source of truth declares Christ. He is either embraced or rejected. How is it that you claim to know him, yet you speak in such a disparaging manner about him? Ecclesiastes 12:13
Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. As foot soldiers for Christ we have been commanded to proclaim his gospel. His word of truth says that if you love him you will keep his commandments. The Americanization of Christianity seems to say if your neighbor worships a false god you shouldn’t interfere in his religion. God, who is not willing that any should perish, would have us as believers to declare his Son to him and when we fail to do so he holds us accountable. He would have us live according to his word that we would be a testimony for him also. We may think we are free to live as we wish under the new covenant of Christ’s blood, but in reality we are to live in a manner that brings others to Christ. We have been bought with a price and therefore we are to live for our Savior, who is our Creator, and not to please ourselves and the lusts of our flesh. Do we represent well the cause of our Lord? I admit that I fail to represent Christ as I ought to, I do not believe the obligation to tell others about Christ can be replaced completely by”lifestyle evangelism”, but I do believe that if we were competent ambassadors for him many would desire to know him as their Lord simply because they would see Christ in us.
ET - Fred is correct.Genesis 2:15
And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it. Not that it was a difficult job, but Adam had work to do, and while in obedience a perfect relationship with his employer.
Psalm 14:1a
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.
298 mindknumbed kid // Nov 24, 2008 at 9:22 pm
NeaL - I think Scott deserves some time away. We all tend to stray from the subject he brings up and talk about whatever suits our fancy anyway, so any thread is viable for our cause(s).
299 mindknumbed kid // Nov 24, 2008 at 9:37 pm
Christians have an obligation to maintain this as a Christian nation. If you haven’t noticed though, we are failing miserably at doing so. As I already stated, if this nation ceases to be a Christian nation, our religious freedom will no longer exist. Other religions (I deplore using the word religion(s) in this context, but it is the easiest to get it said with a degree of brevity) do not tolerate such ideals. Arguments against legitimate attempts to maintain it as a Christian nation are of course counter productive to the cause, why would a Christian desire to allow it to slip away, and why give aid to the enemy? Satan is gaining an advantage, open your eyes people.
300 mindknumbed kid // Nov 24, 2008 at 9:39 pm
300th! Have we ever “gone this far” before?
301 mindknumbed kid // Nov 24, 2008 at 9:46 pm
Bober - The certificate # on that “copy” of the birth certificate was computer generated. In 1961 they used typewriters. I was born in 1961 too.
Not trying to be an expert, just don’t buy that being real.
302 Hawkeye // Nov 24, 2008 at 10:43 pm
Bob #288 & MKK #301,
The birth certificate shown at FactCheck.org is a “short-form” copy that was computer-generated in 2007 (and stamped as such). You will notice that there is no reference to the doctor who delivered the baby, or in what hospital the baby was born, and no other vital statistics.
The controversy stems (in part) from the fact that Hawaii is a state that (in 1961 at any rate) issued birth certificates to people whose child was born in other states or countries. The birth could have been “registered” versus “recorded” as a live birth.
There are additional controversies, not the least of which is that Obama’s grandmother swears she was present in the delivery room when Barack was born in Mombasa, Kenya in August 1961.
Considering that there are now about 17 different lawsuits concerning the “native-born” status of Barack Obama, you would think he would just dismiss all the hype and release his original “vault-copy”, “long-form” birth certificate (which is the one everybody is interested in). Why won’t he release it?
If nothing else, it is up for conference in the U.S. Supreme Court on December 5th. Clarence Thomas has issued the request for conference. If 4 Justices agree, they will hear the case.
Watching and waiting…
303 Hawkeye // Nov 24, 2008 at 10:49 pm
MKK #300,
Correction. That’s 300-teenth!
304 Hawkeye // Nov 24, 2008 at 10:55 pm
RAM #287,
Somehow me-thinks he won’t be waving the ’stars and bars’ or the ‘confederate’ flag…
305 mindknumbed kid // Nov 24, 2008 at 11:25 pm
Dan is home from the hospital and doing well. Shirley is complaining about him being stubborn…
God is good!
306 RepublicanAttackMachine // Nov 24, 2008 at 11:55 pm
Hawkeye re #302, Sorry, my friend but you are wasting your time with the trolls. While they are patting themselves on the back over the FAKE birth certificate, it only proves one of two things.
(1) They are too ignorant to know that this FAKE has been out there for weeks, if not months, and has been proven to be a fake.
OR
(2) As I suspect, they are only here posting to cause trouble.
Number 2 is more likely as, if you noticed, the trolls decide the way to see if Scott is OK is by using vulgar language to see if he will delete it, instead of speaking directly to him and asking him if he is OK.
I, like MOST here, sincerely hope everything is OK Scott. We are praying for you!
Now why could you trolls not say something like that instead of your “method”?
PS: It may not have been right, BUT, in 1961, fathers race would have said either negro, or black and NOT African.
Not PC, but acurate!
You trolls lose credibility with each post. Since you are all in the same place, (as proved by the fact you all show up at the same time), is it a college dorm, “sleeper cell”, or do they have Internet access in prison now?
307 mindknumbed kid // Nov 25, 2008 at 12:07 am
If Obama refuses is is not required to be verified as being constitutionally qualified what is stopping George Soros from being elected? Just my opinion, let’s have every candidate prove they meet the legal requirements when filing for office. Obfuscation only serves to raise suspicion, not a logical tactic for a legitimate contender.
I knew where Bober’s link went and although I had never checked it out before today and not having paid attention to why others said it was not legitimate it was so obviously not his original birth certificate that posting it only serves to cast more doubt on the subject.
I was unsure that there was much chance that he was not born in Hawaii before, but this matter does not pass the smell test. I cannot imagine the courts not addressing it, and the sooner the better.
308 Fred Sinclair // Nov 25, 2008 at 7:07 am
mkk #299 - you wrote “Other religions (I deplore using the word religion(s) in this context, but it is the easiest to get it said with a degree of brevity)”
100% of all of the world’s religions (last I read there are 2,227 - surely there are more by now) have one thing in common. Without a single exception they are all based on the idea of “Man seeking God” by preforming an act or acts of various sorts.
Christianity, on the other hand, stands alone as the only Spiritual contact with God where it is “God seeking man”
Religions all have a list of actions that man must do to work or earn his way to Heaven, ranging from the sacrifice of virgins on an altar to reciting certain prayers. Throwing one’s firstborn into the fire to the meticulous following of a certain list of “Do’s and Don’t’s”
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
God did a perfect work - Jesus said, “It is finished” There is nothing lacking and man’s puny attempt to improve on God’s finished work can only stand as an affront to God as if saying “Yes God, the sacrifice of Jesus was good it just wasn’t good enough, but never fear, by my doing or not doing this and that, I’ll fix it for you. With my addition, I will have earned the right to enter Heaven.”
One of the problems that raises is that God is a Spirit and material acts do not relate to the spiritual.
John 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Our best, weighed alongside God’s minimum, is so far below God’s standard that there is no comparison.
All religions are works based. Christianity is grace based.
Eph. 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph. 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Good works are the natural outpouring of a changed life (Spirit) One explanation that clarified things for me was about the apple tree that produces gnarly, twisted unattractive apples. The cause is bad, diseased, rotting roots. When a tree surgeon cuts away and makes clean healthy roots, the apple tree will naturally produce good, well proportioned, attractive apples. The tree requires no effort on it’s part, the good apples are simply a natural outpouring of a healthy apple tree.
And so the good works in a Christian’s life are simply the natural outpouring of a born again spirit. Not payment for a ticket into Heaven.
I doubt that anyone hates religion more than God does.
309 mig // Nov 25, 2008 at 7:57 am
Colmes is divorcing Hannity. He really thinks he can make it without Mr. Opinion. Colmes only knows how to react to Hannitys’ bursts. If he is hoping to get on the Obamobile to the White House, he ain’t no Tony Snow, God Rest His Soul.
Shine said, “We’re very sorry to see Alan reach this decision but we understand his desire to seek other creative challenges in his career. Behind closed doors they’re sighing with relief, they couldn’t fire the guy and after waiting 12 years, probably glad to see him go. Maybe Alec Baldwin will take his place. Heh Heh Heh. Or Al Franken if he can’t win the election.
The Alan Colmes Show on FOX Talk, a division of FOX News Radio. Alan Rush Colmes? Snicker.
310 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 25, 2008 at 8:00 am
Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.~~James 1:27
311 NeaL // Nov 25, 2008 at 9:10 am
Re: mig #309
I heard that yesterday, too.
My father-in-law gave me a copy of Michael Moore’s book, “Stupid White Men.” I didn’t get past the introduction, but I did notice that in the Table Of Contents there was a chapter titled,
“HANNITY and colmes.”
It’s one of the few times I have to acknowledge that Michael Moore has a point: Alan Colmes is kinda a watered-down Liberal compared to Sean Hannity’s Conservative fire.
I prefer FOXnews.com to any other cable news network’s website, but I am slowly coming to the conclusion that when FOXnews features a Liberal on their staff, the Liberal is just too nutty to take seriously, or they are very weak.
Or …maybe it’s just how I see Liberals in general?
312 MargeinMI // Nov 25, 2008 at 9:33 am
I, too, wish Scott well. Oh, and 300 ain’t even near close to longest thread!
Hawkeye,
Signed, sealed and forwarded. Over 75,000 signatures so far. Anxiously awaiting Dec. 5. I was telling the Boy about this the other day, and we’re both wondering what would happen if it is proved that O is not an American citizen. My guess is that there will be a whooooooooooole lots of folks saying it doesn’t matter. Kinda like the definition of ‘marraige’ (if you catch my drift).
313 RepublicanAttackMachine // Nov 25, 2008 at 10:20 am
mig #309:
If you have ever listened to Colmes radio show, then you realize he is NOT the nice little liberal he “plays” on TV. He is down right as mean and disgusting as Franken with his making fun of callers, not giving them a chance to get their point out, and if losing the arguement, hangs up on them.
The ONLY benefit of him being on radio is NOT having to see his left eyebrow go up and down constantly!
He reminds me of the guy who tries to get Kris Kringle fired in the 1947 version of “Miracle on 34th Street”. He CONSTANTLY fidgets with his eyebrow. Later in the movie, we see his secretary, who has picked up the habit from him!
It will be on Thanksgiving Day 2pm NBC.
I think Hannity is getting stale, and in a lot of cases is too whiney about the same things over and over. People really only need to hear things once, or maybe a couple of times. Sean reminds us 100 times!
I would rather see Mark Levin take Hannity’s place and leave Colmes there. Levin is the equal to what Colmes is on the radio for the other side.
Now that, would be entertainment!
314 RepublicanAttackMachine // Nov 25, 2008 at 10:25 am
Must be too early for the trolls. I am sure they are busy making up their “Prop 8 is Nothing but H8″ signs for tonight’s Church trespasses in San Fran.
315 boberinyetagain // Nov 25, 2008 at 10:30 am
RAM…college dorm? I wish!
Nope, just me and the screen in mom’s basement. Sometimes the rest of the “gang” stops by and we try to outdo each other.
Then again, I’ve been posting for close to 5 years now at this site.
Scott has been more than gracious, has gone as far as to defend my “right” to post even though there is little we agree on (but more than many suspect).
As for my comment that Scott deleted above it goes to show that…
a) he’s still on the job and…
b) his sense of humor remains intact because the word I used to “provoke” him into action was not the least bit offensive…he’s just goofing on us.
316 RepublicanAttackMachine // Nov 25, 2008 at 10:42 am
boober: Sorry, I forgot about the “lazy bums” still living off “Mommy”.
317 RepublicanAttackMachine // Nov 25, 2008 at 10:45 am
BTW boober, got anymore forged documents for us to look at?
You are truly the Dan Rather of Scrappledom!
318 boberinyetagain // Nov 25, 2008 at 10:53 am
RAM, I’m betting that a video tape that begins in the Hawaiian hospital parking lot, showing Obama’s dad driving mom up to the door and continues unstopped into the delivery room with a zoom in on mom’s private parts showing Obama’s head crowning wouldn’t do it. You’d swear that wasn’t his mom, wasn’t his head, wasn’t really in Hawaii.
Kinda like the moon landing footage…
Oops, mom says breakfast is ready…carry on…Sheesh I love french toast
319 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 25, 2008 at 10:53 am
It was offensive and only a disrespectful, disgusting, perverted piece of filth would think otherwise.
320 BlackLion31U // Nov 25, 2008 at 11:10 am
MKK #297,
“but I do believe that if we were competent ambassadors for him many would desire to know him as their Lord simply because they would see Christ in us.”
THAT’S the answer partner.
Unfortunately the religious right, so heavily involved in political activities, have not been good ambassadors at all. In my opinion they are just modern day Pharisees.
“In the “New Bible Dictionary”, H. L. Ellison says,
“Basic to the Pharisees conception of religion was the belief that the Babylonian Exile was caused by Israel’s failure to keep the Torah (The Mosaic law), and that its keeping was an individual as well as a national duty.”
Because of this, the experts of the law set about “hedging” the Mosaic law with precepts so as to make its violation almost impossible. They also added to these laws and precepts, customs which had been handed down through the years. They took these precepts to such extremes that the original intent of the written law was often lost, having been made of no effect by the oral laws and traditions which they had brought in.
H. L. Ellison says,
“All these developments together with thirty one customs of ‘immemorial usage’ formed the ‘oral law’.”
To the Pharisee, keeping the law (both written and oral) was everything. The condition of a person’s heart towards God was unimportant. Because of their strict adherence to levitical laws of purity, they kept themselves separate from gentile ’sinners’ (on whom they looked down), for fear of being defiled.
321 mig // Nov 25, 2008 at 11:13 am
RAM-
Sean is redundant. And we only get Levine on the cable tv radio. Also G. Gordon Liddy. I have also found a morning talk guy locally Curtis Wright that I like. Colmes, man I am not sorry to see him go. But I don’t watch Fox much. Mostly radio and internet.
322 mig // Nov 25, 2008 at 11:17 am
Hey Marge!
Boy it’s along time!
323 BlackLion31U // Nov 25, 2008 at 11:18 am
JL3,
Where’s the love man? You sound almost as angry as RAM.
324 boberinyetagain // Nov 25, 2008 at 11:19 am
JL3…”It was offensive and only a disrespectful, disgusting, perverted piece of filth would think otherwise.”
My “offensive” word consisted of a large rodent combined with the gasseous byproduct it might produce. The word was used in Caddy Shack…I promise that Scott is just messing with y’all.
And I love you too…honest
325 BlackLion31U // Nov 25, 2008 at 11:21 am
Fred #308,
“And so the good works in a Christian’s life are simply the natural outpouring of a born again spirit. Not payment for a ticket into Heaven.”
You nailed that one. Good post.
326 boberinyetagain // Nov 25, 2008 at 11:29 am
and…that’s the nicest thing I’ve been called all day, thanks!
327 J. Cougar Melancholy // Nov 25, 2008 at 12:13 pm
Good to see Scott’s still kickin’!
Time for a recipe! Y’all can try this for Thanksgiving. It’s powerful good!
JCM’s Famous East Coast Corn Puddin’:
2 cans cream corn
1 1/2 cups whole milk
4 eggs beaten senseless
1 1/2 tablespoons flour
1 tablespoon sugar
Pinch salt
Plenty ‘o pepper
Nutmeg
In Corningware casserole bowl, sift flour into milk and mix well.
Add eggs, corn, sugar, salt, pepper and mix well.
Top with nutmeg.
Place in oven for 1 1/2 hr. at 350 degrees.
Test with a fork or toothpick
Serve and enjoy!
I’ll be watchin’ “Miracle on 34th St” when we get back from the Macy’s Parade. I’ll be thinkin’ of you RAM and all of youse.
328 Ms RightWing, Ink // Nov 25, 2008 at 12:25 pm
re 300 & 312
This is true. Back in the day, as the southerners say, we racked up four or five hundred in no time. That is when we had a whole host of posters.
We even had a night shift who had to put the cat out. Sigh, the good old days when we beat the Democrats and had Kerry to kick around
329 RepublicanAttackMachine // Nov 25, 2008 at 12:31 pm
JCM: There is another good line in the movie. After Kris wacks the “eyebrow guy” with his cane, the floor manager tells Natalie Wood’s mom, “Maybe he is only a little crazy, like those people in Washington?”
330 mig // Nov 25, 2008 at 1:43 pm
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Cards must be postmarked by December 10 , 2008. Cards received after this date will be returned to senders. For more information, please visit Redcross.org/holidaymail.
331 Hawkeye // Nov 25, 2008 at 2:28 pm
MargeinMI #312,
Thanks! And just a reminder for those who may have missed it…
Sign the petition to see Obama’s birth certificate. Click on the link below…
Petition.
332 Hawkeye // Nov 25, 2008 at 2:59 pm
To all,
Perhaps Scott Ott is following Obama’s lead from the story…
“Like most hard-working Americans, you get to a point where you just need some ‘me time’…â€
Hope you’re enjoying the time away Scott, and NOT doing something mundane like “working for a living”…
333 BlackLion31U // Nov 25, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Remove Barack and you get Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi. Hillary would be 3rd in line.
“Puuushhhhhh”
334 boberinyetagain // Nov 25, 2008 at 3:52 pm
BLU,
Apparently folks here like Joe Biden better than Obama…kinda odd but that’s the “best case” scenario if Obama cannot serve…
335 NeaL // Nov 25, 2008 at 4:06 pm
re: boberinyetagain #334
Nah, man. We’re talking about “President,” here.
It the man elected is disqualified, the 1st runner-up would be John McCain followed by… Bob Barr, maybe?
336 boberinyetagain // Nov 25, 2008 at 4:10 pm
In cases where a president has not been chosen by January 20 or “fails to qualify”, or if the President-elect dies before the January 20 inauguration, the 20th Amendment states the Vice President-elect becomes president.
337 boberinyetagain // Nov 25, 2008 at 4:20 pm
Did we say $700 billion? At the time that sounded like a lot, you’d have to admit…
(Reuters) - Two new Federal Reserve programs aimed at easing consumer credit and lowering mortgages costs have pushed the potential bill for U.S. financial rescue efforts to about $8.317 trillion, although far less has been committed so far and money extended might not be lost.
Obama is the socialist here? Tell me more…
338 boberinyetagain // Nov 25, 2008 at 4:22 pm
and that’s after a month…
339 BlackLion31U // Nov 25, 2008 at 4:29 pm
Dang Bober #336,
Ya beat me to it.
So please everyone sign the petition. If it works you can call her Vice President Pelosi. If it fails, you’ll be put on Obama’s short list for civil service.
340 boberinyetagain // Nov 25, 2008 at 4:51 pm
BLU, I shudder to think why anyone might prefer Biden to Obama…nah…couldn’t be…not with these free thinkers…
341 Ms RightWing, Ink // Nov 25, 2008 at 6:18 pm
Ahh yes, we shall soon slip into another era where stupidity runs rampant, but few will know it as such. Some scholars, or perhaps I should say most “scholars” will look at the events with deep joy in their hearts.
Lately I have been remodeling my apartment since some newer handicapped appropriate furniture will soon arrive. This in return has caused me to take gobs of time to sort out boxes under the bed which have given birth to mega-sized dust bunnies- since I rarely dare to journey into such dark places.
Oh, but the treasures I have found from numerous years ago, a time when the Clinton’s ruled the land. Not only my tapes from the radio days when I was general manger of a 1/24th watt college radio station, but more exciting my tapes from such wild satire as the Billy Clinton Radio Hour.
Folks, just when it seemed the darkest a light has appeared. There is some great satire coming down the pike and though the Obama era seems horrid, we can at least laugh. Who knows, maybe I will get audited by the IRS again. Yes, it really happened when I was a satirist political hack for the local LA area rag.
I forgot about the recordings since most of them were stolen out of my car in Albuquerque by some kid who thought he had ripped off some rock and roll tapes. It broke my heart, but some dumpster, someplace received the awards of my long studio hours.
Maybe I can get my computer set up with the studio gear I downloaded and go at it once more.
So don’t fear the darkness.
342 mindknumbed kid // Nov 25, 2008 at 6:41 pm
I remember those days when we racked up comments by many different posters quickly, I just don’t remember how many posts there were past 300. That was back in the days of dial up for me, I remember when the threads got really long I would spend long periods of time staring at the monitor waiting…every time I made a comment it took a few minutes to reload. I think it is why I was gone for a while, my hours at work were increasing and there just wasn’t time to sit and stare while pages loaded s l o w l y.
Back to the latest twists on the BC issue. This is an interesting piece, I think the writer’s speculation is probably off base, and not somewhere I would go if I were writing the story, but the story’s details are worth the read.
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.1845/pub_detail.asp
Keep in mind Obamatons, how easily these lawsuits and speculation could be laid to rest. Berg is not a member of the VRWC. He is a loyal democrat, so don’t be so dismissive about the substance of the arguments. Good heavens no, we don’t want Biden any more than Obama, we are simply looking for the truth and if it turns out that he is qualified, good. But if he turns out to be ineligible it must be dealt with now.
Under normal circumstances I would agree that the veep-elect would take his place, but since all of these issues were brought up before the election, and the fact that no one looked for the truth, I personally think we would have to declare the entire election invalid. The DNC and the FEC could have demanded verification, they should have requested verification. They have failed to uphold the constitution and have not looked out for the interest of the American people. If Obama were my candidate I would want to be certain that he is legitimate. In fact, it angers me that this isn’t required at the time a candidate files for office, if it is in our constitution then it really must matter. Why should we not care about it? That is way easier to find in the constitution than abortion rights which seem to make it into the courts easily enough.
Apparently the constitution is like the word of God, you only read the parts you agree with and “clarify” the areas that you disagree with when someone brings them up. I guess on second though we can simply disregard whatever it says, what does it matter anyway?
343 RepublicanAttackMachine // Nov 25, 2008 at 7:03 pm
boober #336: You cherry picked the 20th Amendment, and your bud bl31u swore to it, but that is what you libs do best!
Here is Section 3 for everyone to read. With, “-Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified-” being the key reference. That does NOT automatically mean Biden will be President, only “acting President”!
If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.
344 mindknumbed kid // Nov 25, 2008 at 7:38 pm
re#341 - (an ominous number to an airman while he is in USAF basic training) Some here fear the light!
345 Darthmeister // Nov 25, 2008 at 7:47 pm
Let’s see, atheists fundamentalists can “be heavily involved in political activities”, agnostics can “be heavily involved in political activities”, wiccans can “be heavily involved in political activities”, liberal Jews can “be heavily involved in political activities”, Protestants who believe nothing “can be heavily involved in political activities, leftist “Christians” can “be heavily involved in political activities”, liberal Catholics can “be heavily involved in political activities, black Christians can “be heavily involved in political activities”, “moderate Muslims” can “be heavily involved in political activities”, those who worship sexual perversion can “be heavily involved in political activities”, your generic pagan can “be heavily involved in political activities” … but for some reason conservative Christians can’t be heavily involved in political activities.
Now what’s wrong with this picture and where in the Bible does it say traditional Jews and Christians shouldn’t be involved in political activities? Me thinks we are dealing with some self-righteous, double-standard, hoity-toity leftist bigots when they condemn Christians for having the unmitigated gall to “be heavily involved in political activities”. Look, it’s not like traditional Christians can’t do both, you know, serve God and be leaven amongst a “peverse and crooked generation.”
Marines have a very good day against
Muslim freedom fightersIslamofascists in Afghanistan.346 Darthmeister // Nov 25, 2008 at 7:48 pm
… push
347 Darthmeister // Nov 25, 2008 at 7:52 pm
mnk,
About five years or so ago comment lines would occasionally reach into the 700 or 800s after about a week. There was at least one thread that went past a 1000! Rocky Mt. Lioness, Ms RightWing, RAM, Mack, camojack, Dr. Stuhl (who doesn’t post near enough here any more) and other long-timers remember those days!
348 RepublicanAttackMachine // Nov 25, 2008 at 8:00 pm
Dr. Harden Stuhl! WOW Darth, haven’t heard that name in a while. Would love to hear from him!
349 mindknumbed kid // Nov 25, 2008 at 8:21 pm
Remember Baldo’s Wax for Balds? I think that was his name…
350 mindknumbed kid // Nov 25, 2008 at 9:11 pm
There is a sign above the main entrance doors at a local nursing home that says, ” Live a good life. In the end it is not the number of years in a life that matters, but the life in the years.” Or it’s something really close to that anyway. An elderly retired pastor asked me to speak to a group of residents at that particular nursing home this coming Friday night. After accepting his offer I began to doubt that I could possibly have anything worthwhile to say to the seasoned residents there, I’m just a kid of 46 years. This home is one of my accounts that I service twice a week, I am usually there before breakfast is served and a few residents are sitting around the tables as I push a cart loaded with 36 gallons of milk toward the kitchen. I usually wonder what they are thinking about as they watch me passing through, probably envious of my youth I think to myself as I occasionally smile and say hello, or comment about the weather of the day.
I thought about the sign over the door and remembered a verse, James 4:14
“Whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away.” We have our three score and ten, more or less, what is that compared to the roughly 7000 years of recorded history? Truly, just a vapor, almost nothing in comparison. I thought of another verse, 2 Peter 3:8
“But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.” Now we are getting some perspective here, all of recorded history’s years barely make up a week to God, that surely makes our vapor nothing more than a blink of an eye! Now I have some perspective pertaining to that sign!
My mind seems to make vapor and odor/incense synonymous, whether it is correct or not, I also thought of passages like this, Revelation 8:3
“And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne.” So I think I will try to tie in living a life in a manner that is a pleasing “vapor of incense” before the Lord. So if they really desire to put a lot of life in their years they need to find a way to make it last a lot longer, say throughout all of eternity.
John 3:15
“That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.”
John 3:16
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
So unless God changes up my mind that is going to be my basic outline. Please pray that whatever I say will be profitable to the people there. I get nervous and my thoughts get all jumbled when speaking in public.
351 mig // Nov 25, 2008 at 9:26 pm
snicker-
Bush should resign now.
Then Dick Cheney becomes President .
Then he appoints Condoleeza Rice as VP.
Then Cheney resigns two weeks later and Condoleeza Rice, A Republican, becomes the first BLACK - WOMAN President!!!
352 mindknumbed kid // Nov 25, 2008 at 9:33 pm
BL31U - re #320 The religious right may not have been the best of ambassadors, but I don’t think too many here would nomniate you or your pals either.
It seems as though it is easier to sit on the sidelines of the battle and critique the soldiers than to wage a better war oneself. As the song goes, “It’s a battlefield brother, not a recreation room. It’s a fight and not a game.” No army has ever fought a flawless war, most are a series of mistakes that must be overcome in the end to gain the victory.
In my experience, those that are pointing out the flaws in the soldiers are ones that are looking for reasons not to help in the fight, I would rather fight with a flawed force than to let evil overtake our nation.
353 mig // Nov 25, 2008 at 9:37 pm
Obama Forgery Exposed Dr. Polarik Video
354 mindknumbed kid // Nov 25, 2008 at 9:38 pm
mig re #351 - I like it! BUt they would make the distinction of being the first elected black President.
355 mig // Nov 25, 2008 at 9:40 pm
#288- The Certificate of Live Birth documents posted on Mr. Obama’s website http://www.fightthesmears.com, Daily Kos (a pro-Obama blog) and factcheck.org, (a pro-Obama political research group), were found to be altered and forged.
356 mindknumbed kid // Nov 25, 2008 at 9:51 pm
Proof of eligibility should be easy. I lost my copy of my birth certificate and I received a replacement by mail in about 10 days. The original is on file at the Wood Co.,WV courthouse. There are fingerprints and footprints to positively identify me on record as well. The only thing that makes any sense of this issue is that he cannot prove it.
357 mig // Nov 25, 2008 at 9:55 pm
Obama’s stubborn refusal to provide what he claims is “his own†country with conclusive proof on that score compels the presumption that he knows, or at least strongly suspects, that no sufficient evidence in his favor exists. After all, he is not being pressed to solve a problem in quantum physics that is “above his pay grade,†but only asked to provide the public with the original copy of some official record that establishes his citizenship.
358 mindknumbed kid // Nov 25, 2008 at 11:18 pm
Where are the ads from the sides of the page?
359 mindknumbed kid // Nov 25, 2008 at 11:56 pm
I think Senator Enzi is a good man, but this response is lame.
November 25, 2008
Dear Wayne:
There have been a number of questions regarding President-Elect Barack Obama and his legal eligibility to serve as President of the United States. He was born in Honolulu, Hawaii in 1961 and his mother, Ann Dunham was born in Fort Leavenworth, Kansas in 1942. Because he was born in the United States, he is considered a U.S. Citizen. During the 2008 Campaign there were a number of lawsuits filed in order to prove his citizenship. Legal challenges in Ohio, Connecticut, Washington, New Jersey, and Hawaii were filed and all but the one in Hawaii were dismissed. There are also lawsuits in Pennsylvania and Georgia which have been appealed and will be considered later this year.
I will continue to follow the outcomes of the remaining cases and keep your concerns in mind.
Thank you for contacting me with your concerns. I will continue to work for the people of Wyoming and the United States as a whole.
I want my constituents to have access to a more complete view of Congress and my activities so I have started a monthly e-newsletter. It is a brief summary of important issues and happenings. I encourage you to sign up on my web page at http://www.enzi.senate.gov. You can unsubscribe at anytime.
Sincerely,
Michael B. Enzi
United States Senator
360 Fred Sinclair // Nov 26, 2008 at 5:02 am
From Mikey’s Funnys this Morning.
BE THANKFUL…
Be thankful that you don’t already have everything you desire.
If you did, what would there be to look forward to?
Be thankful when you don’t know something,
for it gives you the opportunity to learn.
Be thankful for the difficult times.
During those times you grow.
Be thankful for your limitations,
because they give you opportunities for improvement.
Be thankful for each new challenge,
because it will build your strength and character.
Be thankful for your mistakes.
They will teach you valuable lessons.
Be thankful when you’re tired and weary,
because it means you’ve made a difference.
It’s easy to be thankful for the good things. A life of rich fulfillment comes to those who are also thankful for the setbacks.
Gratitude can turn a negative into a positive. Find a way to be thankful for your troubles, and they can become your blessings.
today’sTHOT============================
Where there is no wonder there is no worship.
361 mig // Nov 26, 2008 at 8:16 am
More Change: Gettelfingers Bailout First strategy essentially turns union members into government workers - taxpayer money would be paying for those plush benefits. But union bosses are more than OK with that — after all, they have a cozy relationship with the Democratic Party, which will soon control both houses of Congress and the White House. Unions have ensured that the Obama administration will be friendlier than a tomcat in heat. The UAW leadership unanimously endorsed Obama for president, and the AFL-CIO spent $53.4 million to get him elected.
Obama has already signaled that he plans to strengthen Americas unions by introducing the card check program, which eliminates the secret ballot for workers in any union vote. This essentially allows union thugs to pressure non-union members into approving unions.
362 Hawkeye // Nov 26, 2008 at 9:10 am
Bob #340,
BLU, I shudder to think why anyone might prefer Biden to Obama…nah…couldn’t be…not with these free thinkers…
I didn’t vote for Obama-Biden. But those who did must have felt comfortable that Biden could step in at a moment’s notice. I must admit, I’d rather have Sarah Palin than Joe Biden, but better to have a legitimate American as President than a “usurper”… (if he is one).
363 Hawkeye // Nov 26, 2008 at 9:15 am
MKK #349,
Mr. Baldo even had his own blog for awhile… HERE.
364 boberinyetagain // Nov 26, 2008 at 9:27 am
Hawkeye, sure Joe would do. I’m just puzzled as to why you folks seem to be clamoring for him…
Palin would be better? Surely you jest
365 Fred Sinclair // Nov 26, 2008 at 10:43 am
I was trying to find the right word to describe a situation wherein we (America) know more about Sarah Palin’s husband in 30 days than we’ve learned about the man recently elected to be President of the United States in over TWO YEARS! I found several words that I thought should fill the bill.
THE RIGHT WORD
We call something absurd when it is utterly inconsistent with what common sense or experience tells us (: she found herself in the absurd position of having to defend the intelligence of a cockroach).
Ludicrous applies to whatever is so incongruous that it provokes laughter or scorn (: a ludicrous suggestion that he might escape unnoticed if he dressed up as a woman), and ridiculous implies that ridicule or mockery is the only appropriate response (: she tried to look younger, but succeeded only in making herself look ridiculous).
Foolish behavior shows a lack of intelligence or good judgment (: it was foolish to keep that much money under a mattress), while unreasonable behavior implies that the person has intentionally acted contrary to good sense (: his response was totally unreasonable in view of the fact that he’d asked for their honest opinion).
Preposterous should be reserved for those acts or situations that are glaringly absurd or ludicrous. For example, it might be unreasonable to judge an entire nation on the basis of one tourist’s experience and foolish to turn down an opportunity to visit that country on those grounds alone, but it would be preposterous to suggest that everyone who comes to the U.S. will be robbed at gunpoint.
absurd - (of an idea or suggestion) wildly unreasonable, illogical, or inappropriate.
ludicrous - so foolish, unreasonable, or out of place as to be amusing.
incongruous - not in harmony or keeping with the surroundings or other aspects of something.
ridiculous - deserving or inviting derision or mockery.
unreasonable - not guided by or based on good sense.
foolish - (of a person or action) lacking good sense or judgment; unwise.
preposterous - contrary to reason or common sense; utterly absurd or ridiculous.
So we know more about Todd Mitchell Palin than we know about Barack Hussein Obama. 30 days vs over 2 years.
None of the six words really are appropriate, so I wrote it off to insanity and behold! It fit perfectly. Sort of a weird amalgamation of all six of the first words.
Insanity: the state of being seriously mentally ill; madness • extreme foolishness or irrationality.
Over 50% of the Nation’s voters caught up in the throes of sub-liminal hypnosis, marched obediently to the polls and in their madness, voted for this unknown. Truly a grand scale performance of “One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest” - the inmates are running the asylum.
366 random // Nov 26, 2008 at 11:23 am
The unions are definitely pushing. The teamsters lost out big time when the trucking industry was deregulated. About the same time it came a good idea for a guy that knew how to drive a truck to buy one and if he was a decent businessman, be successful as an owner-operator. Owner operators and small trucking companies have played a viable part in the economy of this country.
Teamsters have been unsuccessful in organizing them as a whole. So then they tried to have ILA organize the port truckers. They too have been unsuccessful. Now comes the Obama Durbin Kennedy Bill, [official short title is `Independent Contractor Proper Classification Act of 2007']that will make it so that a trucking company cannot use their services as independent businessmen and women. They will become employees and can then be unionized. However, most likely be put out of business. Freight will then be hauled by company owned trucks with company drivers. The unions will then have a chance again. This bill was pushed by the unions. If it passes not only will cars cost more. Everything will cost more.
367 BlackLion31U // Nov 26, 2008 at 11:28 am
MKK#352
“The religious right may not have been the best of ambassadors, but I don’t think too many here would nomniate you or your pals either.â€
I can’t speak for my “palsâ€, but the difference for me chief is that I withhold CLAIMING to be an ambassador and if I did, I would be EXTREMELY careful how I represented myself knowing that by claiming myself as an ambassador I was representing my Christ to others!
I am not judging you as to your relationship or belief. It appears to me that you are very strongly committed.
My argument is with the religious right movement; the Jerry Falwells, who appear to have lost all sight of Jesus and acting just as the Pharisees. “To the Pharisee, keeping the law (both written and oral) was everything. The condition of a person’s heart towards God was unimportant.â€
You say: “In my experience, those that are pointing out the flaws in the soldiers are ones that are looking for reasons not to help in the fight,..â€
Oh really? What about Jesus?
Jesus condemned the Pharisees for being careful to appear righteous on the outside, while inside they were full of greed and wickedness.
“But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in…
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these things ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess. Thou blind Pharisee….” (Matthew 23:13, 23:23-26)
Throughout His ministry, Jesus had told them the truth.
Such was their blindness and hardness of heart that, when God came to them, they did not know Him.
I can assure you, it is not me who is blind my friend. Make sure you aren’t either.
368 mig // Nov 26, 2008 at 11:33 am
Tom Daschle (Toooooom Dashle) thinks the health industry should be modeled after the Federal Reserve… hardy har har.
369 Ms RightWing, Ink // Nov 26, 2008 at 11:42 am
re:358
Scott dropped a hint that if the tone of the comment section didn’t calm down he would remove the comment section. Though the tone has eased off a bit the paying ads have disappeared.
Conspiracy? I’m just saying-no I am just praying Scott doesn’t give up on us.
370 random // Nov 26, 2008 at 11:45 am
If the media couldn’t scrutinize the Obama man before
he was elected, why would they feel the drive to do so afterwards?
They won’t. They worked for his election. They will now work for his administration.
371 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 26, 2008 at 11:47 am
Every single Christian is an ambassador for Jesus Christ and anyone who denies that fact is a non-Christian.
372 boberinyetagain // Nov 26, 2008 at 12:16 pm
JL3, even those that would type such things as this…?
“It was offensive and only a disrespectful, disgusting, perverted piece of filth would think otherwise.â€
Way to go Mr. “Ambassador”…
373 BlackLion31U // Nov 26, 2008 at 12:25 pm
JL3,
I don’t think to deny that fact would make anyone “non-Christian”.
I think there are many believers out there and in here (myself included) who could do a far better job representing Christ. It’s not good enough to put a fish on your car, or just attend church on Sunday. MKK said it very well:
“but I do believe that if we were competent ambassadors for him many would desire to know him as their Lord simply because they would see Christ in us.â€
374 onlineanalyst // Nov 26, 2008 at 1:16 pm
Happy Thanksgiving all!
JCM: Be careful in NYC when you go to the Macy’s parade. The FBI has issued warnings re the subway system, and security forces are beefing up surveillance for suspicious activity.
The following tidbit posted at powerlineblog by Scott Johnson re the Eric Holder nomination for AG raises red flags about Lanny Davis (as if there aren’t plenty of reasons to be suspicious of him):
Last week when John Hinderaker appeared on Hannity & Colmes, he assumed the unaccustomed role of an innocent bystander to Lanny Davis shouting down Andrew McCarthy. McCarthy testified to the indefensible role played by presumptive Attorney General nominee Eric Holder in facilitating the outrageous pardon of Marc Rich by Bill Clinton.
Davis didn’t exactly scare off McCarthy, but he did prevent him from citing particulars in his case against Holder. “Tell it early, tell it all, tell it yourself,” Davis advises aspiring spinmeisters in his book on scandal management And don’t let the other side tell the truth if at all possible either.
The link to the Davis book is on the powerlineblog site.
For years too numerous to count, the modus operandi of the Dems has been to get ahead of the scandal (or defeat a perceived threat) by stating outrageous claims or diversionary accusations against the opposition party, by repeating the Big Lie until it becomes part of the media narrative, and being in the face of anyone who presents contrary supportive facts.
When and why did partisanship and seizure/maintenance of power trump statesmanship?
BTW Has anyone heard from or about Biden? Is he still trying to locate the defunct Katie’s restaurant, or is he at Home Depot, stocking up on tire guages? Has he wired his phone to the White House in anticipation of those 3 am calls, sure to come -”Mark my words!”- within six months?
Are the Obama appointments shaping up to be Carter v2, Clinton v2, or Bush v2? How much deeper will our progeny be indebted to China after all of these bailouts? After all, Obama was impressed by the Potemkin-village infrastructure when he attended the Olympics in China.
375 boberinyetagain // Nov 26, 2008 at 1:28 pm
“How much deeper will our progeny be indebted to China after all of these bailouts? ”
Did Obama take ownership of all large banks/insurance companies or was that another President? Oh yeah, it was that other guy…George something…
376 Hawkeye // Nov 26, 2008 at 1:48 pm
Bob #364,
I’m not “clamoring” so much for Joe Biden to be President as I am for Obama to prove beyond all doubt that he is indeed a native-born American and thus qualifies to be POTUS. It’s a reasonable request I think.
“And stop calling me Shirley.”
377 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 26, 2008 at 2:10 pm
I stand by my comment #371 and the responses to it are proof.
378 BlackLion31U // Nov 26, 2008 at 2:57 pm
That’s why I’m thankful my salvation doesn’t come from you.
379 onlineanalyst // Nov 26, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Obama Names Bill Clinton to Presidential Post
380 boberinyetagain // Nov 26, 2008 at 3:47 pm
Surely you jest….
381 boberinyetagain // Nov 26, 2008 at 3:51 pm
OLA, now that’s funny!
382 BlackLion31U // Nov 26, 2008 at 4:18 pm
Obamas Use of Complete Sentences Stirs Controversy Stunning Break with Last Eight years
In the first two weeks since the election, President-elect Barack
Obama has broken with a tradition established over the past eight
years through his controversial use of complete sentences, political
observers say.
Millions of Americans who watched Mr. Obama’s appearance on
CBS’ “Sixty Minutes” on Sunday witnessed the president-elect’s
unorthodox verbal tick, which had Mr. Obama employing grammatically
correct sentences virtually every time he opened his mouth.
But Mr. Obama’s decision to use complete sentences in his public
pronouncements carries with it certain risks, since after the last
eight years many Americans may find his odd speaking style jarring.
According to presidential historian Davis Logsdon of the University
of Minnesota, some Americans might find it “alienating” to have a
President who speaks English as if it were his first language.
“Every time Obama opens his mouth, his subjects and verbs are in
agreement,” says Mr. Logsdon. “If he keeps it up, he is running the
risk of sounding like an elitist.”
The historian said that if Mr. Obama insists on using complete
sentences in his speeches, the public may find itself saying, “Okay,
subject, predicate, subject predicate - we get it, stop showing off.”
The President-elect’s stubborn insistence on using complete
sentences has already attracted a rebuke from one of his harshest
critics, Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska.
“Talking with complete sentences there and also too talking in a
way that ordinary Americans like Joe the Plumber and Tito the Builder
can’t really do there, I think needing to do that isn’t tapping into
what Americans are needing also,” she said.
383 boberinyetagain // Nov 26, 2008 at 4:31 pm
Does that mean “nookular” is also gone?
Say it isn’t so!
I almost forgot the right way to pronounce it…
384 BlackLion31U // Nov 26, 2008 at 4:49 pm
you betchya
Say it ain’t so Joe
385 boberinyetagain // Nov 26, 2008 at 4:58 pm
One might think that in 8 years someone could have pulled George aside real quick and just mentioned how silly it sounds when he pronounces it wrong…but nooooo
386 boberinyetagain // Nov 26, 2008 at 5:20 pm
Happy Thanksgiving folks!
387 gafisher // Nov 26, 2008 at 7:03 pm
For an outsider’s view of the Obama recession, check out this article in Izvestia, an interview with a Russian analyst who says the only thing holding the U.S. together now is the false hope that Obama can do what he promised. By late next spring, he says, we’ll know otherwise and the nation will begin to collapse. Fascinating stuff, whether or not you believe it.
388 Ms RightWing, Ink // Nov 26, 2008 at 8:04 pm
re:385
Bob, it seems like your looking for a fight today. Now you know I generally don’t get between you and your thoughts, but gee wilikers aren’t you being rather testy today.
The way I see it, you should be a happy man, what with Barack winning the elections and the Democrats in general holding down a lot of seats. If I was a Democrat I would be jubilant.
Has George, er, still president Bush said something to you today that got your goat. First the comment about the bank and insurance companies—ya really think George did that all on his own with absolutely no help from the Democrats in congress?
Then his rendition of Nuclear. Do you know how silly some of the southern people in the legislative branch sound to us Yankees and vice a versa. I don’t think President (still) Bush needs to change his vocabulary to suit us. He has ruled over the greatest nation on earth and his pronunciation (problem), has not brought impeachment proceedings yet.
In a few hours it will be Thanksgiving. Use it wisely. Be thankful that in our country few are starving, though many may be hungry, Be thankful the Salvation Army, along with thousands of other churches across the land are insuring that all who wish, can partake in Thanksgiving.
Yes we have the poor among us. I live way below the poverty line but last I looked I have plenty of what I need, not an abundance of what I want.
Most of all I have my Scrapple family, you included, and especially Scott to give us a forum to practice free speech.
So take it easy and don’t nitpick so much, you are bigger than that. I quietly resign from saying any more because my argument is not with you as a person. It just seems like your kicking hard at the Scrapple page for some reason.
Happy Thanksgiving one and all
389 gafisher // Nov 26, 2008 at 9:18 pm
Re “If I was a Democrat I would be jubilant.”
I wonder, Ms. RW, Ink. It’s easy to quarterback from the stands, but now that they’ve got the White House and both houses of Congress they really have no excuse for not keeping all those wonderful promises. I think if I was a Democrat I’d lay low for a few years.
390 Newsman // Nov 26, 2008 at 9:44 pm
An amusing tongue in cheek article BlackLion31U about Obama’s way of speaking. Made me
smile
391 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 26, 2008 at 9:58 pm
So, basically, BHO is now atop a rabid pyramid of Leftists, Clinton-worshipers and various schizophrenic specimens, all of whom are overcome with the insatiable lust for power. An undulating mass of vipers or rotting corpses or something gnawing on itself.
They’re sucking The United States of America into a black hole—the black hole of Godlessness where the slippery slope is better described as a free-fall.
I thank Almighty God that I’ve made it to another Thanksgiving, that my wife still loves me and that my children and grandchildren are doing okay. And I thank God for the Hope He energizes me with through the Holy Spirit.
God Bless You and Yours
God Bless America
392 Darthmeister // Nov 26, 2008 at 10:24 pm
Harry Reid (D-Moon) threatens another Donk powergrab, vis a vis the Demoncrat-controlled Senate, if Minnesota doesn’t unilaterally declare al Franken the winner.
Well, what do you expect from closet fascists?
Blacklion, how much do you want to bet your Obamessiah isn’t using a teleprompter during those apparently “spontaneous” moments when he’s speaking before cameras?
The real, ever articulate, Obama. Of course his fawning acolytes ignore all these pathetic gaffes and bloopers (much less the lies he’s told as documented here at Scrappleface) … and any he may make in the future.
Don’t be naive, Blacklion, you don’t actually think for one minute the sycophantic national socialist media will ever go out of its way to publicly document Obamessiah’s gaffes, now do you? Since the election of your messiah, the NSM, in this case CNN, has started calling the mission in Iraq a “humanitarian mission.” I know, I know, but it’s still a positive spin that was NEVER used during all the individual “humanitarian efforts” in Iraq during Bush’s administration.
And therein will always be your problem, Blacklion, having your blinkered fantasies validated by a liberal media that will be foisting the pretty flowers and rainbows upon the sheeple on your side of the aisle over the next four years. I mean, where else are you going to get any “real news” but from a thoroughly biased NSM, from liberal bloggers you just also happen to agree with? Yeah, right.
Now take the blue pill and go back to sleep, Obama will take care of everything and when you wake up you’ll be living in a liberal utopia … after all The One promised to “change the world”.
393 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 26, 2008 at 10:31 pm
Election Day is 1285 days away.
394 Darthmeister // Nov 26, 2008 at 10:36 pm
Ms RightWing,
Given the Demoncrats will soon control the Executive branch, have controlled the Legislative branch the last two years, presently enjoying a balance of power in the Judicial branch, and this compounded by the fact Demoncrats are also in complete control of the People’s Republic of Illinois as well as the county AND the municipality in which I live, if I’m not living in a worker’s paradise in the next two years I’m going to sue the Demoncratic Party for political fraud.
I mean, with all those wonderful, smart, and compassionate Democrats allegedly working for “the good of the people” throughout their ranks, wouldn’t one expect at least a little bit of heaven on earth by now - not to mention the full-blown version by the end of Mr. Obama’s first term? I’m still wondering when Mr. Obama and other fat cat redistributionist Democrats will start spreading some of their wealth to me.
395 mig // Nov 26, 2008 at 11:29 pm
But for Democrats, the bidding is fierce. Three years ago, a Democratic staff director for an important House or Senate committee might have earned about $130,000 a year on Capitol Hill, and jumped to K Street for an annual salary of about $250,000. Now, the same person might command as much as $500,000 to $800,000 a year, several recruiters said.
For an industry that prefers to talk about selling policy expertise and sophisticated arguments, the turnabout is a stark reminder that what clients want are personal connections. “People who need to get something done know what the price of a drink is,†Mr. Metzger said. “This may sound terribly Washington, but access trumps expertise.â€
Some have begun to wonder if elected Democrats, flush with a level of power the Republicans experienced a few years ago, would now emulate the K Street Project by encouraging corporations and trade groups to hire fellow Democrats instead of Republicans.
“It wouldn’t surprise me if they do,†said Leon E. Panetta, a former Democratic representative from California and chief of staff to President Bill Clinton, “because the name of the game is money, and the fact is they still largely depend on lobbyists for the money to bulk up their campaigns.â€
-NYT
396 mig // Nov 26, 2008 at 11:30 pm
Oh I’m sorry fellow scrapplers… That last post was about lobbyist. I think it’s past my bed time. See y’all later, Happy Thanksgiving. So many things to be Thankful for.
397 Fred Sinclair // Nov 27, 2008 at 9:16 am
This just arrived in my inbox. Has anybody else heard anything about this? If something like this should happen, I wonder how much aid we could expect from other countries - especially those we have helped in the past?
Subj: MASSIVE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA EARTHQUAKE IS PREDICTED FOR THIS FRIDAY
Date: 11/27/2008 12:54:57 AM Eastern Standard Time
Dear Friends,
Please read this link and see what you think. If this earthquake happens, most food will probably be gone from the stores by Saturday.
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=136669
God Bless You, and it may be wise for all of us to be prepared.
William Star
398 onlineanalyst // Nov 27, 2008 at 9:47 am
True contentment comes from realigning our perspective- especially in an age of economic downturn. There is some timely advice in this commentary.
Let us give thanks. We have abundant lives here in America, even among our most destitute. We share willingly with the needy without the coercion of the government. We extend a helping hand across the globe.
Let us pray for the oppressed and suffering in nations caught under the jackboot of greedy, power-mad tyrants. Let us pray for the victims of terrorist zealots and for the zealots themselves that they may see the evil of their ways. Let us pray for those whose lives have been destroyed by natural disasters.
Let us pray for our troops stationed around the world guarding the freedoms and security of humanity. Let us pray for those that give succor to the grieving and helpless.
Happy Thanksgiving!
399 mindknumbed kid // Nov 27, 2008 at 10:15 am
Ummm, Friday is the 28th on my calendar. Well at least THIS Friday is…
Life,liberty, and the pursuit of HAPPINESS…
Just wanting to wish everyone a happy day of giving of thanks. I would hope that your thanks will to God, at least on this Thanksgiving day. If happiness is your goal in this short life the necessity of being thankful cannot be overlooked. The more thankful you become, the more happiness you will find in your life.
America is becoming progressively less happy nation as a whole because it is not thankful. I am not sure that we will become a more thankful people unless we reconcile ourselves with God, but as an individual YOU can CHANGE and if you will you will become a happier, healthier person. You can also impact your friends with this message of thanksgiving. Is a nation’s collective happiness important? Think on it during this Thanksgiving Day and decide for yourself.
I think America’s great need is to be thankful.
400 mindknumbed kid // Nov 27, 2008 at 10:22 am
Ms RightWing - What are you doing today? Was it last year on Thanksgiving that you went tho the buffet restaurant where Rex Humbard used to go, or was that Easter? Time sure flies these days…
Someday I would like to have you as a guest for a holiday dinner, what would you say to that?
401 mindknumbed kid // Nov 27, 2008 at 10:23 am
Oh, and that was 400 teenth !
402 mindknumbed kid // Nov 27, 2008 at 10:39 am
If you claim Christ as your Savior, then you indeed are an ambassador. To not understand the fact that you are doesn’t make you not a Christian, but it does make you a poor witness for him, and we are all supposed to be witnesses. Christianity will rise or fall in a nation based on our obedience to the Holy Spirit’s prompting. Heretofore I have sinned in that I have been guilty of quenching it more often than heeding it. I don’t want to remain unaffective any longer as a Christian, God help us all to get this nation back to Him.
403 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 27, 2008 at 11:44 am
Just to clarify:
I agree that, “To not understand the fact that you are doesn’t make you not a Christian…..” et cetera.
There is a vast distinction, though, from the deniers I was [too briefly, obviously] defining—those who are repulsed by even the tiniest atomized droplet of Biblical milk.
I would never define seekers or new believers as deniers (the morally bankrupt [a Biblical definition of fools] who know God’s Word and yet deny even its very basic Truths).
404 Fred Sinclair // Nov 27, 2008 at 11:45 am
Possible terrorist threat???
Read about it here:
http://nygoe.wordpress.com/2008/11/26/nyc-thanksgiving-terror-threat/
Dan Maloney
NY State Coordinator
Gathering of Eagles
405 mig // Nov 27, 2008 at 11:48 am
Obama — actually faced with governing - seems now to understand the complex legal questions Bush grappled with. Bush wasn’t so evil after all. And running for and governing as president are two different things. But don’t expect the Obama-loving media to notice or care.
You are right OLA… Pray for those in Mumbai, India. My husbands co-workers that were there for special training, Thank God, had gotten on a plane yesterday before the mayhem. I also thank God that my husbands’ schedule kept him from participating in that training group.
Happy Thanksgiving Everyone.
406 Ms RightWing, Ink // Nov 27, 2008 at 11:54 am
re:400
MNK
That was Easter. I ended up at Truck Stops of America because the help was so rude at the now, Rev Angley’s (sp) In the Name of Jeeeessssuuuusss Cafe ( no religious smear intended). They herd you in like cattle and then tried to split up my friends family. TSA treated us like guests. I will go there again on Easter.
Today I am on a mission of sorts. For those in our building who have no place to go I am making sloppy joes, cookies, coffee and hot chocolate. I have no idea how many are coming, but I am prepared.
Since I can no longer go out into the community to help, this is my little thing to do.
Anytime you have the coffee pot on I may show up, though I told CAT the same thing, but never got there. Every hot deal for traveling fell through.
To all, Happy Thanksgiving!
407 mig // Nov 27, 2008 at 1:22 pm
Great stuff from Family Security Matters:
On a deadly serious note, reality bites.
Nothing clarifies the mind like a jihadi boomerang.
Next thing you know, they’ll rediscover the facts that detainees have systematically lied and exaggerated stories about mistreatment at Gitmo.
Funny, when President Bush and his homeland security team realized these very realities seven years ago, they were branded terrorists and hounded relentlessly by Congress, the media and the left.
Viva la Hope and Change!
408 mig // Nov 27, 2008 at 1:24 pm
Sorry, no excuses, It’s Michelle Malkin but I was reading it at Family Security Matters…
409 mig // Nov 27, 2008 at 1:54 pm
Appointments in the Obama Administration,
Leaders of “the endarkenment.”
Chief of Staff: Rahm Emanuel
Commerce Secretary: Bill Richardson
Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS): Tom Daschle
Secretary of Homeland Security: Janet Napolitano
Communications Director: Ellen Moran
Likely appointees include:
Secretary of State: Hillary Clinton
Secretary of the Interior: Raúl M. Grijalva
HHS committee- Dr. R. Alta Charo
410 gafisher // Nov 27, 2008 at 8:26 pm
That’s “change,” mig (Re#409), from promise to reality. Hey Presto …
411 Fred Sinclair // Nov 27, 2008 at 8:41 pm
President Bush has a couple of things going for him that is deliberately being ignored by the Liberal Left Wing Mainstream Media.
After the terrorist attack on America (09/11/01) he took off the gloves (so to speak) and committed himself to total concentration on his #1 job responsibility as President (and no, he hasn’t been perfect in all the things that he did) the Security of the Nation is his prime responsibility and for over seven years America has been spared a repeat of further Muslim terrorist’s attacks on our Homeland.
Side issues have pretty much been left on the side. Faults are not in short supply, nor are they back ordered. Illegal immigration/amnesty - he flunked; Use of the VETO to stop tsunami type spending and “pork barrel” projects - he flunked; ethical handling of the Border Patrol Guards (still in prison) - he flunked; and the list could go on and on and on.
On National Security (as he saw it) - he never wavered. The actual number of terrorist’s plots that were foiled we may never know, but from what did get reported, I’m sure there were many. All this while having to work with his alphabet services filled with embedded socialists moles (from prior administrations) digging in their heels at every turn, trying to bring about his downfall.
So far (to date) he has been an exemplary success in carrying out his #1 prime duty. He wasn’t in the office of the Presidency to try and win some popularity contest. His “approval rating” of 28% only serves to prove that his approval is in excess of three times that of Congress at 9% - If this were “American Idol” it would be different but I suspect that President Bush’s interest in his “approval rating” is on par with that of a rolling donut.
What with the shameful 9% approval rating of Congress, it should be a subject of study in every Psychology 101 classroom. These critters in Congress are supposed to be running a popularity contest. How 91% of the people think they are a complete flop and yet keep sending them back election after election is way and far beyond my comprehensive ability to understand.
Perhaps if “The Fonz” showed up as a real person. They would send him/her to Congress, because setting aside the fact that he/she possesses no credentials, job resume or any other factors that would recommend him/her for the job, “The Fonz” or “The Fonzette” is above all things - “Cool”.
As a postulation that might account for Mr. B. Hussein Obama’s recent victory could be that a bit over half of the voters saw him as being a modernized version of “The Fonz”; and possessing no credentials, job resume or any other factors that would recommend him for the job (like a genuine Birth Certificate?) he was viewed as being “Mr. Cool” - now, all we have to do is wait for his “jumping the shark” moment.
While President Bush is far removed from being a “great” President, he is, and has been to the best of his limited abilities, a “good” President.
412 Newsman // Nov 27, 2008 at 11:48 pm
“(like a genuine Birth Certificate?)”
Prove it with pure facts - no baloney or implying this or that. Facts that would hold up in a court of law !
413 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 28, 2008 at 10:59 am
BREAKING NEWS:
BHO Resigns Rather Than Display Birth CertificateTens of millions dance in streets worldwide
[JL3rdNews - Earth] Yes! It’s true. No kidding. Honest.
414 gafisher // Nov 28, 2008 at 11:14 am
Amen, Newsman Re#412! This Constitutional requirement should have been dealt with long ago. The persistent refusal of the Obama campaign to do so — with what you rightly describe as “Facts that would hold up in a court of law” — casts a shadow which will make any Bill, Treaty or Executive Order signed by ex-Senator Obama merely provisional until his legitimacy is proved.
Putting this question to rest should be the work of a few minutes; dodging the issue like a guilty schoolboy just feeds the fires of doubt.
415 Newsman // Nov 28, 2008 at 12:39 pm
gafisher - my comment is addressed to Fred Sinclair and any others who question the legitimacy of Obama’s birth certifucate.
We do not normally question a fellow American’s birth certificate in this country. Anyone ever questions yours ?
I think you would be a little put out if someone questioned your right to citizenship, assuming you were born in the US or of a mother who was/is a US citizen.
416 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 28, 2008 at 2:23 pm
BHO has not presented his birth certificate so, the truth is, there is, actually, nothing to question in that regard, this is true.
What is in question is BHO’s citizenship.
FactCheck.org is no more a reliable source of such evidence than Wikipedia or somebody’s alleged granny in the first place, and I saw nothing the least bit convincing there, anyway (the oft-linked-to attempted sleight-of-hand has been there for a while now).
417 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 28, 2008 at 2:33 pm
I ran across this while rifling Oahu’s birth certificate archive.
418 gafisher // Nov 28, 2008 at 5:16 pm
Newsman Re#415 — Yes, in fact my birth certificate has been required of me several times, as have those of my wife and children.
I had to produce mine to obtain a U.S. passport, and my wife and kids need theirs every time we visit friends in Canada. I had to overnight my youngest son’s to him a couple of months ago so he could take part in a missions trip to Mexico (he helped build a school). It’s actually quite common to need a legally certified copy of one’s birth certificate, and very easy to comply.
Since it’s required by the Law of the Land, I am not in the least offended or inconvenienced.
Obama could put this issue to rest in less than a day, unless it’s true.
419 gafisher // Nov 28, 2008 at 5:50 pm
JL3 Re#417 — If you expand the photo you can see evidence it might be fake. It appears to actually be Little Minnie’s certificate with the name altered.
A “certified” certificate bears a seal or impress similar to being notarized; this can’t be verified in an online photo (as demonstrated by the doctored document which once graced the Obama website) but I’m sure the Secretaries of State would accept verification by a qualified impartial panel. On the other hand, it may well be that the proper authorities in Hawaii would be willing to supply and distribute sufficient certified copies for each state that needs one.
420 mindknumbed kid // Nov 28, 2008 at 7:07 pm
You shouldn’t be too cornfuzzed with the issue of proof of citizenship, it isn’t racket science (misspelling intended). Instead of using legal maneuvers to avoid answering these lawsuits, we are wondering why he simply does not comply with proof that would end (END, get it?) all doubt and speculation. I thought it would be Obama’s “October surprise” to produce his undisputed evidence of citizenship, that would have discredited everyone who was raising the issue, and would have been a HUGE shot in his campaign’s arm. I think that is why no one is wanting to touch it, if Rush were to take up the matter and then Obama produced his proof it would greatly damage his credibility, if that isn’t why Obama is holding out I cannot think of any reason for it to remain an issue. I am sick of it all, I say either prove yourself now, or resign. What does it take to see action taken these days?
421 mindknumbed kid // Nov 28, 2008 at 7:20 pm
newsman - They first questioned his citizenship because of some inconsistencies that indicate he may not have been born in the US, which IS a requirement. All that was requested was verification. Posting an alleged birth certificate on a website does not constitute proof.
Enough obfuscation, I am entitled to proof as a citizen that he meets that constitutional requirement, when there is doubt - let the facts bear it out.
Sorry for beating a dead horse, but I truly am frustrated by it all, seeing as it is so EASILY put to rest.
422 Fred Sinclair // Nov 28, 2008 at 7:28 pm
What I consider an interesting tidbit came in my e-mail today - Rush read this on his Wednesday program, word for word…..
Question
What does the following have in common?
Louisiana Purchase
The New Deal
The Marshal Plan
The Korean War
The race to the moon
NASA
The Vietman War
The S&L crises
The Iraq invasion
The TOTAL cost for all of these government programs in todays dollars is LESS !!!!!
—- YES THATS LESS— than the amount of money that Congress wants to spend to bail out and stimulate the economy. A CRISES THEY CAUSED IN THE FIRST PLACE!
What a wonderful bunch of Idiots we have running our Government.
423 mindknumbed kid // Nov 28, 2008 at 7:31 pm
re#406 - That is great. One of the areas I have quenched the Holy Spirit in is His leading to host a dinner for anyone in the community who does not have family to be with during the Thanksgiving ,Christmas, and Easter holidays. I was given that idea at least 3 years ago and not done a thing to make it happen. Make an excuse, just put it off ( I have a master’s degree in procrastiology) and then I don’t have to wrestle with it for another year. Perhaps I will eventually get as sick of myself as God probably is. Now next year…
424 mindknumbed kid // Nov 28, 2008 at 7:35 pm
Fred - I was told that the government could give every FAMILY in America ONE MILLION DOLLARS each and spend less than what they are proposing on these bailouts. I haven’t done the math, but if that is true, what in the world is going on around here?
425 Fred Sinclair // Nov 28, 2008 at 8:19 pm
I was just thinking of how wonderfully blessed I am to have Scott and through him and his blog, so many friends I have come to know.
Some are ‘distant’ friends from all over the USofA and some ‘close’ friends who have come to my home, to meet in person; or developed a ‘close’ friendship bwo emails. Thank you Scott.
Then the following was emailed to me today. I read it with a joyful heart, totally understanding the meaning involved….
REAL FRIEND TEST!
This is GOOD… I especially like the last sentence!!!!!!
A simple friend, when visiting, acts like a guest.
A real friend opens your refrigerator and helps himself and doesn’t feel even the least bit weird shutting your ‘Coke drawer’ with a foot!
A simple friend has never seen you cry.
A real friend shoulder is soggy from your tears..
A simple friend doesn’t know your parents’ first names.
A real friend has their phone numbers in his address book.
A simple friend brings a bottle of wine to your party.
A real friend comes early to help you cook and
stays late to help you clean.
A simple friend hates it when you call after they’ve gone to bed.
A real friend asks you why you took so long to call.
A simple friend seeks to talk with you about your problems.
A real friend seeks to help you with your problems.
A simple friend wonders about your romantic history.
A real friend could blackmail you with it!
A simple friend thinks the friendship is over when you have
an argument. A real friend calls you after you had a fight.
A simple friend expects you to always be there for them.
A real friend expects to always be there for you!
When you are down to nothing … God is up to something.
‘Never frown, even when you are sad, because you never know who is falling in love with your smile.
426 mindknumbed kid // Nov 28, 2008 at 8:44 pm
Pray as I attempt to minister to the folks at the nursing home tonight.
427 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 28, 2008 at 9:34 pm
“…..NEVER kill a customer.” ~~Gilberto
428 mindknumbed kid // Nov 29, 2008 at 12:00 am
Life is a crisis, Christ is the only solution.
429 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 29, 2008 at 7:31 am
As presumptive President-elect BHO continues to promulgate the politics-as-usual facade (as a cover for the far more nefarious [and you thought it couldn't possibly get any lower than that, right?] motivations of his choreographers), I would like to thank President George W. Bush for lowering gas prices.
430 onlineanalyst // Nov 29, 2008 at 8:37 am
The brilliant Mark Steyn sees the forest.
431 gafisher // Nov 29, 2008 at 9:51 am
Tre(e)s bien, OLA — Steyn is always worth reading.
432 gafisher // Nov 29, 2008 at 9:57 am
JL3 Re#429, I’d like to thank President George W. Bush for holding back the barbarians for eight years. [Here] is a partial list. Print it as a keepsake; most of it is about to be burned while Nerobama fiddles.
433 onlineanalyst // Nov 29, 2008 at 3:45 pm
VDH offers some compelling reasons why President Bush may come to be viewed favorably when seen through the Obama prism. VDH calls the Obama campaign a bait-and-switch by a masterful politician. We shall see if he will become a masterful executive.
434 mindknumbed kid // Nov 29, 2008 at 3:56 pm
So we have done the right thing and elected Obama but there are still Muslims engaging in acts of jihad? What’s up with that? We have won in Iraq, yet the terrorists still strike random targets around the globe? The war isn’t over, far from it. The only hope for civilized free societies is that we continue to unite and fight until civilization is delivered from the grips of radical Islamic jihad-loving terrorists. Time to renew our commitments, our strength, our purpose and resolve! Who will lead the cause?
435 mindknumbed kid // Nov 29, 2008 at 3:59 pm
ola - I can’t get the last link to function.
436 mindknumbed kid // Nov 29, 2008 at 4:03 pm
I just started a nasty internet rumor that the reason Scott Ott is awol from scrappleface is that he has been in meetings with Obama for a possible high level cabinet position…
437 onlineanalyst // Nov 29, 2008 at 4:46 pm
Try this direct link for the VDH piece:
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MTBiODZmZDJhMzcwNzVmZDgzZmNlNmM5NzIxMjYyZGE=
Maybe we all need to pony up some money via Paypal for the Scrappleface fund.
BTW Chris “Tingle in my leg” Matthews was approaching Obama’s team for support in a possible run for a PA senatorial seat. I think that it is time to begin a draft Scott Ott for that position. It’s a win-win. We defeat Matthews, for sure and get rid of Arlen Specter.
Scrappleface is read nationally. The support and campaign funds would flow.
The downside is that we would lose our favorite news satirist.
(I do hope that everything is well at the Ott household.)
438 Fred Sinclair // Nov 29, 2008 at 6:24 pm
A truly great plan - wish I’d thought of it!
You know what would really TICK OFF the Democrats… ?
Bush should resign now.
Then Dick Cheney becomes President (that would really TICK OFF the liberals)!!!
Then he appoints Condoleezza Rice as Vice President.
Then Cheney resigns two weeks later and Condoleezza Rice, A Republican,
becomes the first BLACK President and the first WOMAN President !!!*
439 gafisher // Nov 29, 2008 at 8:53 pm
That would deflate a lot of lefty hot air, Fred, but I think all three — Bush, Cheney and Rice — have far too much respect for the Presidency to play games with it.
440 gafisher // Nov 29, 2008 at 8:57 pm
mkk Re#434 — anyone who thinks our enemies wanted Obama as our Commander in Chief has spent too much time playing politically correct kindergarten games. The reason you want your opponents to have a weak leader is to make it easier to beat them.
441 gafisher // Nov 29, 2008 at 9:00 pm
Er, anyone who thinks our enemies wanted Obama as our Commander in Chief because then we could just get along … etc.
Sorry.
442 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 29, 2008 at 10:27 pm
It has occurred to me that perhaps the recent barbarism in Mumbai was [in a really sick way] a dress rehearsal. Those murderous imbeciles could easily wreak the same havoc on several fronts simultaneously in multiple cities throughout the world.
I pray to God that BHO hasn’t bitten off more than he can chew.
443 mig // Nov 30, 2008 at 7:57 am
Newsman- On the Subject of the Birth Certificate- It may not be the subject of interest that it is if a forged Birth Certificate hadn’t been posted. Why would a forgery be posted?
Onward Christian Soldiers-
Heritage Foundation is coming out with a DVD called 33minutesfilm: …tells the story of the very real threat that hostile nations and rogue dictators now pose to every one of us. The truth is brutal: no matter where on the earth a missile is launched from, it would take 33 minutes or less to hit the U.S. target it was programmed to destroy. We must cause people to stop and face this horrible reality.
cc: mental vault- an olympic sport for some posters here.
444 mindknumbed kid // Nov 30, 2008 at 12:29 pm
On a lighter note, meet Bill Lepp:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5435852
On a heavier note,”We must cause people to stop and face this horrible reality.” It doesn’t help that we just elected Barack Hussein Obama. Being just 33 minutes from change is enough, Biden said he would be tested, pray that he can somehow pass the test. Global Jihadist do exist and they are committed to the cause of conquering the world to bring it into submission to Allah. Fortunately Jesus Christ as Creator is Lord of all creation and when the battle is over the saints will be casting crowns at his feet! Not Allah, or Obama, or some suave antichrist that has been empowered by the god of this world to attempt a desperate military coo.
Praise God, Jesus Christ is Lord from the beginning and throughout all of Eternity!!!
445 mig // Nov 30, 2008 at 1:57 pm
“Norma McCorvey’s testimony is a incredible example of God’s redeeming grace. I commend Norma for her courage to speak out on the evils of abortion and pray that her redemptive story will touch hearts and change minds.â€
446 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 30, 2008 at 6:59 pm
God Bless You and Yours
God Bless America
447 RedPepper // Nov 30, 2008 at 8:20 pm
Some Indian authorities are now claiming that Lashkar-e-Taiba is responsible for the 60-hour terrorist seige of Mumbai.
Article here.
Wikipedia article here. Often referred to, in short, as LeT , the Urdu name of the group is commonly translated as Army of the Righteous.
Like a number of other Islamic militant groups in this region (including the Taliban), LeT is thought to have been created and sustained by elements of the Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) Agency.
LeT is noted for its brutality and savage indifference to human life.
A tradition that, it seems, has been followed in the recent attacks : article here.
448 mindknumbed kid // Nov 30, 2008 at 8:21 pm
First proof to verify my internet rumor.
In today’s headlines:
Obama turns to friends, foes for White House posts…
449 mindknumbed kid // Nov 30, 2008 at 8:24 pm
“LeT is noted for its brutality and savage indifference to human life.” - Allah must be pleased with them…tis a peaceful religion you know
450 mindknumbed kid // Nov 30, 2008 at 8:26 pm
RedPepper, where have you been? Good to see you back in these parts again!
451 mindknumbed kid // Nov 30, 2008 at 8:30 pm
Other headlines of interest:
Sex invariably spells trouble, says Dalai Lama AFP - Fri Nov 28, 2:39 PM ET
LAGOS (AFP) - The Dalai Lama, the exiled Tibetan spiritual and temporal leader, on Friday said sex spelt fleeting satisfaction and trouble later, while chastity offered a better life and “more freedom.”
Bra for the boys an online bestseller in Japan Reuters - Mon Nov 24, 10:04 AM ET
TOKYO (Reuters) - Who said bras are only for women? A Japanese online lingerie retailer is selling bras for cross-dressing men and they’ve quickly become one of its most popular items.
452 onlineanalyst // Nov 30, 2008 at 8:50 pm
This is what happens when you have the spouses of the Obama administration running these news shows!
Susan Rice, Obama’s senior policy adviser and a member of Obama’s ‘tansition team’ will become the new face of US at UN.
She is married to Ian Cameron, the new Executive Producer of This Week with George Stephanopoulos.
******
SEE HOW THIS WORKS?!!! Have you seen ABC ‘NEWS’ DISCLOSE ANYWHERE THIS CONNECTION TO OBAMA?!
Ian Cameron has been named executive producer of ABC News This Week with George Stephanopoulos, ABC News President David Westin announced today. In this role Mr. Cameron will oversee production and editorial content of the Sunday morning public affairs show.
453 RedPepper // Nov 30, 2008 at 10:29 pm
mkk #450: … good to see you, too.
454 Fred Sinclair // Nov 30, 2008 at 11:27 pm
As it is, there are some (like myself) who believe the Bible is God’s Word.
Unfortunately (for them) there are others who don’t.
I think the key lies in Paul’s first letter to the Church in Corinth it also may account for the existence of liberals i.e. “The Cult of Godlessness” Paul writes, “For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God..” 1st Corinthians 1:18 [KJV]
In his letter to the Church in Rome Paul writes,”Rom. 14:11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.” That includes Stalin, Hitler, Amin, Castro, Reid, Pelosi and most all of those supporting the liberal agenda, etc. “every knee shall bow” and that excludes no one! (for the ladies I imagine a curtsy equals a bow).
Even our esteemed resident trolls will bow the knee. According to The Word, their showing up with all too little - all too late and for having rejected God and His free gift of Salvation, are condemned to spend all of eternity with satan (formerly known as Lucifer) If the Biblical description of hell, hades, the pit, the lake of fire, etc. is accurate as we Christians believe, they aren’t going to like it one bit.
In the hymn “Amazing Grace” there is the phrase “When we’ve been there ten thousand years…” Our pastor at the time said that when it was written, ten thousand was a really big number but today we toss around figures like million and billion so from then on, we sang that line “When we’ve been there ten trillion years…” Ten trillion years in Heaven is one thing, but ten trillion years in Hades with no time off for good behavior, no gain time, no parole, etc and then a trillion to the trillionth power more to go and even then - just getting started.
My finite mind cannot even begin to grasp such numbers, so I won’t even try, instead I will rest with the assurance of God’s Word that, in believing, I have been saved by Grace, through faith and that not of myself, it is a gift of God and “…not of works, lest any man should boast.” (Eph. 2:8,9)
455 mindknumbed kid // Dec 1, 2008 at 12:09 am
Time on this earth is regulated via the movement of the earth within our solar system. Time is our enemy in this life, we are subject to it. But once this earth is scrapped and the Son is the light in Heaven, time will be of none effect. Therefore it is my belief that eternity will not be measured in years. Our human minds are incapable of comprehending life outside of the constraints of time.The word of God says in 2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. I believe this verse best reflects the fact that God is not bound by time as we are as humans. I prefer to to change the words to Amazing Grace to “when we’ve been there forevermore”, being released from the constraints of time is going to be one of the “best” parts of Heaven, I think.
456 Fred Sinclair // Dec 1, 2008 at 2:09 am
mkk #455 (455? Wow!) I was using the world’s measure of time to make a point. I agree with you totally (100%). In fact in the book of Psalms it is recorded “Psa. 90:4 For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.”
So it’s not impossible that God views the Crucifixion of Jesus as an event that happened the day before yesterday and although Jesus returned for a period of forty days and was see and heard by many - “Acts 1:3 To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God:” Jesus was living on our earthly timeline, while God was on a Celestial timeline (where there is no timeline, thus allowing Him to see the beginning from the end and the end from the beginning) at the same time.
457 mig // Dec 1, 2008 at 7:35 am
OLA!
Well, I suppose we can now look forward to 8 years of good press and that will convince us that Obama is a World Class Act much like the Press has convinced a nation and the world that Bush was completley incompetent.
Checking my safety belt to be sure I can survive impact.
458 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 1, 2008 at 11:55 am
Warner Todd Huston nails it over at RedState:
[emphasis mine]
459 Godfrey // Dec 1, 2008 at 3:07 pm
Fred #454. The arrogance of your position is astounding, if not particularly surprising. If there is one glaring constant between Christianity and Islam, it is the false humility that is so readily evident in the veiled glee with which adherents consign infidels/heretics to eternal doom.
It’s interesting how similar the world’s religions actually are, and even more interesting how rarely this fact actually occurs to their respective participants.
460 mig // Dec 1, 2008 at 3:36 pm
Thanks to Letty:
The global HIV industry is too big and out of control. We have created a monster with too many vested interests and reputations at stake, … too many relatively well paid HIV staff in affected countries, and too many rock stars with AIDS support as a fashion accessory,” he wrote in the British Medical Journal in May. Here
461 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 1, 2008 at 3:49 pm
Infidels/heretics send themselves to eternal doom—the only glee is in the elitist spin of the Godless.
462 Newsman // Dec 1, 2008 at 5:19 pm
Hey mindknumbedkid, you say “We have won in Iraq”
Sheesh, couldn’t prove that by me as young American soldiers are still being killed and bombs are still blowing up cars, people and buildings.
463 Godfrey // Dec 1, 2008 at 5:43 pm
JL3, an incisive and thoughtful point, as usual.
464 gafisher // Dec 1, 2008 at 6:31 pm
Newsman Re#462: In Iraq we’ve restored the rights of millions, closed the rape rooms and torture chambers, brought true democratic elections and seen a true democratic government elected, restored farms to farmers, businesses to business people, and homes to their owners; in fact, property rights in general have been restored. Members of government are now accountable to the citizens, the economy is stable, and Iraq is no longer a threat to its neighbors.
No, we haven’t ended violence in Iraq, though Washington D.C. and Chicago are more dangerous.
465 gafisher // Dec 1, 2008 at 6:56 pm
Godfrey Re#459, If there is one glaring difference between Christianity and Islam it is that the first is based on grace while the second, like all false religions, is based on works. This explains how similar the world’s non-Christian religions actually are, and the perhaps even more interesting point of how rarely this fact actually occurs to their respective participants.
466 Godfrey // Dec 1, 2008 at 7:29 pm
Gafisher: There are, of course, numerous doctrinal differences between Islam and Christianity…but both religions result in the worldview exhibited by Fred and JL3, which holds that anyone who disagrees with their way of seeing things is somehow deserving of torture/eternal misery/whatever…i.e. is less worthy than believers…as if mere belief itself were somehow worthy of esteem, when belief is usually primarily a matter of indoctrination by one’s parents.
What inward justification enables a teenager in Mumbai to mow down innocent civilians? The same justification that enabled Christians to slaughter Jews and Muslims and native Americans and Africans by the millions.
Different age, somewhat different religion…same mindset.
467 RedPepper // Dec 1, 2008 at 8:17 pm
Godfrey #466: Maybe I’m just not looking at it from the right angle, but I’m finding your argument remarkably similar to other variations of “moral equivalence” that I’ve heard over time … and no more convincing than they usually were, either.
Perhaps we are all guilty … still, that’s not the same as saying that we are are equally guilty …
To borrow an image, IMO most of these arguments end up as comparisons between lightning bugs … and lightning bolts.
FWIW.
468 Newsman // Dec 1, 2008 at 8:55 pm
We haven’t “won” yet gafisher. As I said young americans are still dying.
Do you consider that these continuing deaths constitute that we have “won the war” ?
To me “won the war” means no more of our young soldiers are being blown up and either killed or seriously maimed and disabled for the rest of their lives.
Winning WWII meant ‘jap’ and ‘hun’ soldiers were no longer killing american soldiers under the orders of their superior officers.
The bulk of what you said is immaterial nonsense in respect to my question.
469 mindknumbed kid // Dec 1, 2008 at 9:11 pm
Eternal punishment has nothing to do with agreement or disagreement among men. Eternal reward has nothing to do with agreement or disagreement among men. Christianity is not religion. A good father rewards his children for acts of obedience, and punishes them for acts of disobedience. God says that to obey is better than to sacrifice. If we reject God’s authority over us it does not negate the reward of obedience, or the punishment for disobedience. To be fair God has given us a conscience, a handy reference guide that outlines his expectations, and direct influence bwo his own Spirit, that we may know how to be obedient. But he also allows us to make that choice, if we are willing to submit to his authority, we are given a gift, however we are free to reject the gift. The gift is Jesus Christ, the Son of God who gave himself to redeem mankind, who through disobedience became separated from him. If the gift is accepted the individual remains a sinner, but God forgives their disobedience because of the obedience of Christ. No man is capable of obeying God’s laws, we are born with a will that does not want to submit to divine authority.
Therein lies the difference between religion and Christianity, man cannot reconcile himself with God regardless what he does, reconciliation comes from God through the sacrifice of his Son and a man’s acceptance of Christ’s imputed righteousness.
Satan is a deceiver, he offers promises of reconciliation with religions that impose requirements on men that “earn” their salvation.
But without accepting God’s authority over us we cannot accept the fact that we are in need of reconciliation. If you do not recognize God as your Creator, you will never submit to him. He has given us his word, a conscience, and the influence of his Spirit. The word can be rejected, the conscience seared, and the Spirit quenched. But whether or not you accept his authority over you, you cannot avoid the punishment of disobedience. Whether we agree, or disagree.
470 Godfrey // Dec 1, 2008 at 9:21 pm
RedPepper: Hi there. I’m not sure what the similarities between major religions have to do with moral equivalence; I’m only saying that Islam and Christianity both have the effect of absolving its followers of responsibility for their actions, whether we’re talking about burning witches or blowing up children. It’s hard to temper someone’s propensity for violence if they are on a mission from god.
I realize, of course, that Christians don’t usually use their religion as an excuse for murder (at least not lately). But the prevailing mindset among the more fervent (and violence-minded) practitioners of Islam is exactly the same today as it was among Christians in the past (as recently as in the Balkans and in Ireland).
I guess it’s more like an “immoral equivalence”.
471 mindknumbed kid // Dec 1, 2008 at 9:29 pm
“Winning WWII meant ‘jap’ and ‘hun’ soldiers were no longer killing american soldiers under the orders of their superior officers.”
But there were American soldiers killed after the WWII was “won”, right? You are assuming that the insurgents are fighting under orders of “superior officers”. The term “insurgents” is akin to “rebels”, they are not soldiers following orders as in conventional warfare. Even if their “superior officers” surrendered ” insurgents would not cease their efforts to kill, and they are not just killing American soldiers, they are targeting Iraqi forces as well. As long as we do not cut and run, this war is won in Iraq, but the terrorists are still plotting attacks around the globe.
472 Godfrey // Dec 1, 2008 at 10:12 pm
Mindknumbed kid: Christianity is not religion.
It’s a little late in the game to change the definition of the word “religion” at this point! I suppose you’re trying to draw a distinction between society’s structured practice of organized worship and the “deeper meaning” of Christianity, and I see why you’d want to do that. But I don’t think that’s possible; one necessarily draws upon the other. Christianity is, in every meaningful sense of the word, religion.
If we reject God’s authority over us it does not negate the reward of obedience
I think you’re mistaken here: rejection of god, according to Christian theology, is the ultimate sin. You can be forgiven for anything else, but if you have the audacity not to believe what you are taught, you are barred from entering heaven (although frankly, from what I’ve read of heaven and its primary denizens, it doesn’t sound like much fun anyway; I’m not sure I’d enjoy an eternity of servitude and supplication).
…God forgives their disobedience because of the obedience of Christ
I realize that’s a commonly accepted statement, but it really doesn’t make much sense, if you think about it. Perhaps in a more primitive world where scapegoating and ritual sacrifice (whether animal or human) still held some sway, it wouldn’t sound as strange. To the ancient Jews, for example, fresh from a polytheistic past, this sort of sacrifice/please the gods ethos must have made sense. But I think it sounds a bit archaic by today’s standards. Would anyone here do what Abraham (almost) did, sacrifice their child because they had a vision of God telling them to do so? I’m pretty sure modern psychiatry has a name for that sort of vision…and state hospitals have an open slot for anyone who follows through on it.
This is what I meant in my above post about the religious mentality: it’s okay to do the most horrendous things as long as it’s perceived to be the will of God. But when it’s the will of someone else’s god…well…not so much.
473 Hawkeye // Dec 1, 2008 at 10:29 pm
Hello all,
In case you haven’t seen it yet, I thought this was a pretty good summary of the Obama birth certificate issue.
474 mig // Dec 1, 2008 at 10:31 pm
For that person on your list who has everything, Planned Parenthood is offering — ahem — gift certificates.
475 RedPepper // Dec 1, 2008 at 10:45 pm
Godfrey #470: Hi there back at ya.
What prompted my remark about moral equivalence was this comment:
I think that’s a pretty broad remark …
I’m a good deal more interested in what people do than how they (try to) justify it, whether to me or to themselves. Anyway, as you observe, we don’t seem to be trying to justify violence by our religion so much these days … here in the West, anyway …
476 mindknumbed kid // Dec 1, 2008 at 10:57 pm
“If we reject God’s authority over us it does not negate the reward of obedience, or the punishment for disobedience. ”
I meant to say that if we reject his authority over us it does not change the fact that there is a reward for obedience, or punishment for disobedience.
My bad.
If you are willing to risk an eternal home in Hell, (I know that also is archaic thinking) then by all means feel free to disregard what God has written to you in his word. It sounds as though you understand a lot less than you think you do. If the Bible is just another great piece of literature and the life of Christ and his sacrificial death a fable then you will be alright. don’t worry about anything…
The wages of sin is death - God
477 mindknumbed kid // Dec 1, 2008 at 10:58 pm
The gift of God is eternal life - God
478 mindknumbed kid // Dec 1, 2008 at 11:07 pm
John 3:18
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
However,
Romans 8:1
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
James 4:14
Whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away.
If all you have is this life on earth, you really don’t have much.
479 mindknumbed kid // Dec 1, 2008 at 11:16 pm
No it doesn’t make any sense that God would give his Son just to reconcile sinful man, but it is true.
Romans 5:16-18 (King James Version)
16And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.
17For if by one man’s offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
18Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
480 mindknumbed kid // Dec 1, 2008 at 11:29 pm
Hebrews 9:27
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
481 Godfrey // Dec 1, 2008 at 11:31 pm
RedPepper: “I think that’s a pretty broad remark …”
I’m not so sure about that. It does, of course, involve a different religion (or more correctly a different offshoot of the same religion), but the basic reasoning behind each of these acts is the same; it is commanded by scripture (and therefore god). Examples:
Verse 9:123 of the Koran says “Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you.”
Exodus 22:18 of the Bible says “Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.”
Both “commands” have been obeyed (to the letter) by believers of each faith, much to the chagrin of their victims. But who could imagine blowing up children or burning someone’s grandmother alive absent such a motivation? What Yemeni villager, Serb or Irishman would do the horrific things they have done without having been commanded to do so by god himself?
To me, the equivalence of these acts is very clear, and so is the equivalence of their cause; belief that god requires it, along with guaranteed absolution. Without this belief, none of these things would have happened.
482 RedPepper // Dec 2, 2008 at 12:24 am
Godfrey #481: I think we’re kind of talking past each other. I understand the basic point you are making re motivation, but my real attention is focused elsewhere.
I’ve just been reading a news story about Moshe Holtzberg, the orphaned son of Rabbi Gavriel Noach Holtzberg and his wife Rivka, who were murdered at Chabad House in Mumbai during the recent terror seige - tortured to death, in fact, in so gruesome a manner that it shocked the medical personnel who had to deal with their remains (see last link in my post #447).
They didn’t deserve to die that way. Their children don’t deserve to grow up orphans.
If I wanted to look at it that way, I could say that both Rabbi Holtzberg, and the men(?) who killed him and his wife, were motivated by religion.
That isn’t how I want to look at it …
483 DrLumplevin // Dec 2, 2008 at 12:29 am
We have received notice that the new memoir will be titled, “Wet Dreams of Myself: Hopw I Found the Greatest Love of My Life.”
484 everthink // Dec 2, 2008 at 12:54 am
Say Scott,
Could we get a courtesy flush here? The halfwits have this thing full. You know how they are, if you wait much longer their going to make a mess all over the place. Maybe you should put a sign on the door!
ET
485 Godfrey // Dec 2, 2008 at 2:07 am
RedPepper: That isn’t how I want to look at it …
That’s quite understandable; I’m sure it’s even more discomfiting for the average Muslim, who not only shares with these murderers a religious inclination but also a religion. Who would want to look at something like the horrors of last week and know that the perpetrators were motivated by religion?
And yet…they were.
There’s no denying it. In any non-religious context, the analysis would be swift and merciless. The killers would be characterized, categorized and diagnosed, and any motivating factors (heavy metal music? bullied at school?) would be splattered across the front pages of the world’s newspapers. But when the motivating factor is religion…which people so cherish…it’s considered taboo to speak of it as a cause.
And yet…it was.
So where does that leave us? Is their religion “different” than Christianity in this respect? History has shown that it isn’t. Were they rogue members of Islam, ignoring its tenets and “hijacking” one of the world’s great religions, as the press and the politicians always phrase it? No. As you see in the above Koranic verse, their actions were theologically defensible. Likewise, similar actions, through the ages, have been theologically defensible based on certain parts of the Christian bible (i.e. the burning of “witches”).
So what, really is the culprit? Most people don’t want to say that it is, at least partially, the human capacity for belief in the irrational, or the ease with which such belief has been used as a rationalization for the cruelest, most bloodthirsty acts in human history.
And yet…
486 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 2, 2008 at 6:17 am
North is not up. Up is not North. Deal with it.
Merry Christmas
God Bless America
487 onlineanalyst // Dec 2, 2008 at 10:44 am
Check out the video of Fred! on the economy. It’s too bad that some dimwits will miss his irony.
488 RepublicanAttackMachine // Dec 2, 2008 at 11:08 am
gafisher, In your responce to the “moronic post of newsman”,(calling his post moronic is mine), you left out New Orleans, which NOE is listed as the most dangerous city in America.
This is in spite of America pouring BILLIONS into this “Chocolate City”, that screamed Bush was a racist, that he had bombed the levees, and the sheer stupidity of these people re-electing an inept OAF that literally caused more deaths in his own city because he let buses sit idle because the drivers were not union or some such nonsense!
Probably more people died from this, than have died in Iraq in the last year!
With all the help, money, and aid given so we can say “we are not racist”, these “Chocolate City people” have proven THEY want even more, or they will TAKE IT, (remember the looting? Food was NOT what the looters were taking!).
Time to STOP “helping” them. These people are the “racists”!
Who wants to take my bet of ten to one that Nagin is, or will be asking for a “bailout” soon?
Didn’t think so.
PS: Anyone else see the trolls getting vulgar again? everthink/neverthink/alwaysstink is the A-typical lib. Vulgar language, dirty thoughts proves what a weak mind he has.
Same bet that four letter words are the staple of his house, that is if he/it has a house and is not typing from a public library.
489 RepublicanAttackMachine // Dec 2, 2008 at 11:10 am
gafisher, The post was #454, sorry I did not include that.
490 Ms RightWing, Ink // Dec 2, 2008 at 11:10 am
November 13th is where this story began. Has anyone talked to Scott?
No ads, no new stories. Has Scrappleface come to a slow painful halt.
491 RepublicanAttackMachine // Dec 2, 2008 at 11:12 am
Sheesh-#464. Time to get some coffee!
492 RedPepper // Dec 2, 2008 at 12:04 pm
Godfrey #485: Maybe it’s just about the neighborhood … we had some incidents involving witches, a few hundred miles from here, a couple of centuries ago … but to my knowledge, it’s been pretty quiet around here lately …
493 Hawkeye // Dec 2, 2008 at 1:30 pm
Ms RW #490,
Scott was going pretty hard there up until the election. I’m just hoping he’s following BHO’s lead when he said… “Like most hard-working Americans, you get to a point where you just need some ‘me time’…
Or maybe it’s just ‘postpartum depression’ (following the birth of a new age and all that stuff).
494 BlackLion31U // Dec 2, 2008 at 1:44 pm
hey ram,
Do you by chance suffer from teretts syndrome?
495 Godfrey // Dec 2, 2008 at 1:58 pm
RedPepper: yeah, you might have something there. Here in my neighborhood we had some witch incidents just over a month ago…but instead of burning them at the stake we just gave ‘em candy and they went away.
496 Hawkeye // Dec 2, 2008 at 2:24 pm
Another interesting blog…
Natural Born Citizen
Stay tuned sports fans!
497 Hawkeye // Dec 2, 2008 at 2:43 pm
Berg to file emergency injunction with SCOTUS today…
HERE.
498 RedPepper // Dec 2, 2008 at 2:44 pm
Godfrey #495: I think you’ve put your finger on it! Candy, huh?
Reminds me of an exchange I overheard just before the election. A asks B, “Are you gonna go vote?”, to which B replies, “I always vote!” A responds, “Shouldn’t do that. It just encourages ‘em.”
499 Hawkeye // Dec 2, 2008 at 2:46 pm
Five “Obamagate” cases now in SCOTUS with 15 more headed there…
HERE.
500 onlineanalyst // Dec 2, 2008 at 4:51 pm
The boy president-to-be surely has made a precedent of/for himself by being less than transparent about his resume and by ignoring the Freedom of Information Act.
Obama has three high-powered law firms fighting on his behalf to keep his original birth certificate in the Hawaiian lock box. He submitted a one-page doctor’s excuse as evidence of his health fitness. No one has seen any evidence of his academic record- applications, transcripts, diplomas, published articles. Details of his legislative record are down the memory hole, lost or destroyed by a shredder.
On the other hand, our girl Sarah (the one who faced a media proctology) is meeting with the prez-to-be in Philadelphia, along with 40 other governors, to discuss economic issues. She goes, not with hat in hand for a bailout, but to seek federal assistance in cutting through federal bureaucracy in order to make cheap energy independence a reality and to assure our security by doing so.
The source of the link within this link is intriguiging: a MenforPalin blog. I left the comment section in the link because there are some informed observations about the hoops that must be run through for energy companies to get a product up and running.
501 Hawkeye // Dec 2, 2008 at 5:19 pm
OLA #500-teenth,
Sorry, link doesn’t work.
502 Hawkeye // Dec 2, 2008 at 5:23 pm
OLA,
Obama is not merey “less than transparent”… he’s opaque.
503 onlineanalyst // Dec 2, 2008 at 7:27 pm
Try this: .
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2141404/posts
504 mindknumbed kid // Dec 2, 2008 at 7:33 pm
What good is a Constitutional requirement if no one seems to have any standing to enforce it? Who is responsible to uphold the Constitution? Doesn’t the disregard for our Constitution constitute injury to every law abiding American citizen? In the past when a candidate was found ineligible under the requirements of the Constitution, who took the action that lead to their disqualification? Do we have standing to file suit against whomever has jurisdiction to require the candidates provide proof of eligibility?
Or is this a case in which Obama, who is a Constitutional scholar, has found a loophole that will allow him to become President without ever having to provide proof that he meets the legal requirements?
If Barack Hussein Obama were an “undocumented worker” do you mean to tell me that he could still be in the same position he is in at this moment and still be sworn in as our 44th President? What am I missing here? This seems totally absurd to me. If the SCOTUS rules that none of the parties in any of the lawsuits has legal standing and they are dismissed, will somebody who does have legal standing emerge, or will we never know if our President is legally holding the office?
505 gafisher // Dec 2, 2008 at 7:38 pm
OLA, Hawkeye, isn’t it amazing how someone so vacuous can simultaneously be so opaque? It’s like one of those dust clouds in space — Nebulobama.
506 mindknumbed kid // Dec 2, 2008 at 7:54 pm
Still some mighty good news out there to report folks…
Acts 2:21
And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Romans 10:13
For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Your future need not be all doom and gloom!
507 Fred Sinclair // Dec 2, 2008 at 8:10 pm
Attention all husbands… The Doghouse
Take heed! This COULD happen to you!
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2077360/beware_of_the_doghouse_hilarious/
508 Darthmeister // Dec 2, 2008 at 8:15 pm
Texas Judge Dismisses Bogus Charges Against Cheney and AG.
Read the article, the guy was a whack-job … ’nuff said.
Er, Newsman, you can question my natural born status any time. I’d have absolutely no problem sending you directly to Galveston, Texas where the Galveston County Registrar, with my permission, could allow you to view a bona fide vault copy of my birth certificate … and I imagine you could do the same. Now why won’t Mr. Obama?
Obama can put this whole thing to rest by allowing a team of journalists to make the same inquiry with his blessings in Hawaii. Also you must remember, Obama and his handlers started this whole kerfuffle off by posting a completely bogus “birth certificate” on his website. The fact they removed that webpage when people pointed out discrepancies is suspicious in and of itself.
Why didn’t the man simply post a scanned image of a legitimate birth certificate that surely he must have in his possession. In fact, in one of his autobiographies he claimed he was in possession of the birth certificate as a young man. Why didn’t he simply use that one? Just asking.
It may very well be everything is on the up-and-up but Barack Obama has yet to release a certified copy of his actual vault birth certificate despite all the questions that have been raised, whether legitimate questions or not. It seems reasonable that someone whose bona fides are questioned wouldn’t post bogus documents are have “officials” making pronouncements on his behalf swearing on a stack of Boy Scout magazines that we should just take their word for it.
Don’t blame those who have questions about all the sneaky obfuscations that the Obama campaign has engaged in instead of simply PRODUCING AN ACTUAL CERTIFIED COPY OF HIS VAULT COPY BIRTH CERTIFICATE.
Also, keep in mind that at least two of his close relatives in Kenya claim to have been present at his birth in Mombasa, Kenya. An even in view of those startling revelations the Obama machine has strenuously refused to produce a certified copy of his Hawaiian birth certificate that should include the Hawaiian hospital in which he was born and the doctor who delivered him. In fact quite the opposite happened. Instead, the Obama website posted a form that had none of that information about doctor or hospital, thus leading to further suspicions Obama might have been one of the foreign-born babies of the 1960s who were provided birth certificates by the state of Hawaii during that time span.
Keep in mind, the Hawaii Revised Statute 338-178 allows registration of birth in Hawaii for a child that was born outside of Hawaii to parents who, for a year preceding the child’s birth, claimed Hawaii as their place of residence. The only way to know where Senator Obama was actually born is to view Senator Obama’s original vault birth certificate from 1961 that shows the name of the hospital and the name and signature of the doctor that delivered him.
Surely it exists, mine does and I’ve communicated with someone who was born in Hawaii in 1961 and there vault birth certificate has both the hospital and doctor’s name with signature.
This whole issue wouldn’t have gotten to this point if Mr. Obama had simply gone to Hawaii (like when he visited his ailing grandmother), ask for a certified copy of his vault birth document, make it public and then put this whole issue to rest. But oddly enough HE STILL HASN’T DONE IT!
I think he at least owes America that much. This whole thing is a distraction and it’s because of the lies, half-truths and at least two fake birth documents posted on his website and at DailyKos that the Obama campaign have already engaged in. Don’t blame us for Mr. Obama’s hamhanded and often cryptic handling of this issue, he’s the one keeping it alive.
509 Tuesday Links : Stop The ACLU // Dec 2, 2008 at 9:18 pm
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510 Fred Sinclair // Dec 2, 2008 at 9:31 pm
I doubt that there is anything, anywhere that can compare to the advice of a truly dedicated America hater. Well, there’s always Dingy Harry, aka Harry Reid, The Queen of Hearts, aka Nancy Pelosi and of course B.O. himself, aka Barack Hussein Obama. Their epiphany (or divine revelation) came to them and their cohorts when they finally realized that their triune gods (Marx, Lenin & Engles) had created and sought to establish the perfect world. Described in the writing of “The Communist Manifesto” and subsequently expanded into the three volume set “Das Kapital” A Utopian world where all men are born equal and should remain equal in all matters. Unfortunately they missed the American version - “All men are CREATED equal, with their inherent ability to work, according to their will, and become unequal.”
A smidgen of the links when you dogpile or google “A letter to America” This dyed in the wool Marxist has his perfect advice for America. (From his viewpoint, that is…..)
A Letter to America | Truth Spring
Nov 20, 2008 … By Anwaar Hussain Dear Americans, With your election of Barack Hussein Obama, … Sincerely,. Anwaar Hussain. A Letter to America …
truthspring.info/2008/11/20/a-letter-to-america/ • Found on Google, Yahoo! Search
Truth Spring
adil choudhry»» Dear Anwaar, Enjoyed reading this letter. … In the United Vegetative State of America, Anwaar Hussain, a Masters in Defense and Strategic …
truthspring.info/ • Found on Google
Fountainhead Forum - Anwaar Hussain’s Articles
by Anwaar ? Some democracy, America ? Anwaar, 0, 259, Jun 6, 2007, 8:03pm by Anwaar ?A letter To President George Bush [ Pages: 1, 2 ], Anwaar …
airdance.proboards50.com/index.cgi?board=anwrart • Found on Google, Yahoo! Search
Uncommon Thought Journal: A Letter to America
A Letter to America. By Anwaar Hussain of Truth Spring. Dear Americans, … Anwaar Hussain. Posted by rowan at November 20, 2008 11:10 AM | [eMail this article! …
http://www.uncommonthought.com/mtblog/archives/2008/11/20... • Found on Yahoo! Search
Uncommon Thought Journal: A Letter to America
A Letter to America. By Anwaar Hussain of Truth Spring. Dear Americans,. With your election of Barack Hussein Obama, you have almost realized the dream of …
http://www.uncommonthought.com/mtblog/archives/2008/11/20... • Found on Google
An estimated 67,000,000 Americans, we are told, voted for Barack Hussein Obama on November 4, 2008. A landslide we are told; a mandate for change we are told.
The total population of the United States, according to the 2008 U.S. Census bureau estimates, is approximately 306,000,000. When we compare the number of votes for Obama to the total population, the percent who voted for Obama is 21.9%; hardly a mandate for change; certainly not a mandate for change of the type Comrade Obama has in mind.
In total, an estimated 130,000,000 Americans voted; 42.5% of the total population; more an indication of the apathy that leads to the loss of freedom and destruction of any nation.
Barack Hussein Obama is now, at every opportunity, appearing before the cameras from behind a podium on which appears a sign, “The Office of President-Elect.â€
Never heard of the Office of President-Elect before; must be something new. The truth is that this is just another ploy to make Americans believe the election is over. It is far from over.
Barack Hussein Obama does not become President-Elect Obama until the Electoral College meets and votes on December 15, 2008.
511 nylecoj // Dec 2, 2008 at 10:17 pm
I hope that everyone here had a Blessed
Giving of Thanks Day.
512 RedPepper // Dec 2, 2008 at 11:20 pm
nylecoj: Here’s hoping you had a special Thanksgiving Day also …
513 nylecoj // Dec 2, 2008 at 11:45 pm
Thank-you RedPepper,
It’s kind of eerie around here, I’ve been on travel a lot and have been mostly lurking and not even much of that. I was surprised when I came by today and saw everything so bare and out of date.
514 Hawkeye // Dec 3, 2008 at 9:06 am
OLA #503,
Thanks!
gafisher #505,
“Nebulobama”? …funny!
515 RedPepper // Dec 3, 2008 at 11:23 am
Now and then, even the N.Y. Times publishes a column that’s worth reading.
Calling All Pakistanis by Thomas L. Friedman.
Good luck with that, Tom …
516 RedPepper // Dec 3, 2008 at 11:49 am
Then again, if you come to the conclusion that Friedman is just being hopelessly naive, here is a slightly different viewpoint :
Enough of Radical Islam by Ben Shapiro.
Take your pick.
517 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 3, 2008 at 12:05 pm
According to this worshiped Leftist genius, terrorism doesn’t mean much.
518 onlineanalyst // Dec 3, 2008 at 1:02 pm
Hmmm…CNN’s Campbell Brown takes Obama to the woodshed re his dismissal of a reporter’s legitimate question about Obama’s total reversal from criticizing Hillary Clinton’s foreign policy credentials to praising her as a well-experienced SoS nominee.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2008/12/02/cnn-s-campbell-brown-lectures-obama-brushing-media-s-questions
Obama’s campaign team made up quite a list condemning Hillary’s foreign policy readiness back in March.
Will the rest of the media take this as a cue to begin asking questions and demanding accountability of Obama’s “just words, just speeches”?
519 BlackLion31U // Dec 3, 2008 at 1:20 pm
OLA,
C’mon since when does anyone here believe anything from the “liberal lame stream media”?
Especially since the conservative mouthpiece himself has approved of the appointment.
“NEW YORK — Rush Limbaugh has seldom been a fan of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton. But the conservative radio pundit has given his blessing to her selection as the next secretary of state.”
“Will the rest of the media take this as a cue to begin asking questions and demanding accountability of Obama’s “just words, just speechesâ€?
Nope
520 BlackLion31U // Dec 3, 2008 at 1:34 pm
“No one could remember a meeting quite like this. ”
“..But for the most part, the governors, meeting at historic Congress Hall in Philadelphia for the annual meeting of the National Governor’s Association, were taken with Obama’s openness, policy depth and just that he showed up to engage in a real back and forth, a move none could recall on the part of a newly elected president…”
“..For me, it was the Barack Obama I knew, but for a lot of the other people in the room, it was a president being unprecedented,” Paterson said…”
“..It was a very productive meeting,†recounted Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman. “Kind of like the days they used to meet in this grand old building,†he said, alluding to the home of Congress when Philadelphia served as the nation’s capital at the end of the 18th Century. “It was very much a working session, with brainstorming – which is so rare in the upper echelons of politics these day which are so staged and scripted…â€
“..The contrast with our meeting with the sitting president was fairly stark,†said Tennessee Gov. Phil Bredesen, recalling a “much more controlled†environment with President George W. Bush..”
“…Montana Gov. Brian Schweitzer, the incoming head of the DGA, was more blunt: “Just to have an administration, a president, a vice president, who listened, engaged, and came to meeting prepared — it’s a brand-new idea…â€
“..He was measured. He was thoughtful. He acknowledged the debt was clearly a problem and that he would have to do something about it…â€
“…But Sanford recounted that Obama said he was, in the short-term, focused on getting the economy moving..”
“…He’ll do so on a good footing with the nation’s governors, a group never shy about complaining about Washington…”
“He starts off with a real reservoir of goodwill,†said Bredesen.
Hmmm, novel idea, actually listening with at least some intellegence. This might be hard to get used to. It might be just what this country needs!
521 Hawkeye // Dec 3, 2008 at 2:02 pm
Will dead electors make Obama president?…
Electoral College scam.
522 Hawkeye // Dec 3, 2008 at 2:20 pm
Print and TV ads are demanding Obama to prove his citizenship. I think the ‘We The People’ ad is particularly effective…
HERE.
523 Hawkeye // Dec 3, 2008 at 2:32 pm
From ‘World Net Daily’… HERE.
524 BlackLion31U // Dec 3, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Hey, maybe we really never have been to the moon? When you are determined not to believe, no amount of evidence produced will change your mind!
From Politifact:
“When the official documents were questioned, we went looking for more answers. We circled back to the Department of Health, had a newsroom colleague bring in her own Hawaii birth certificate to see if it looks the same (it’s identical). But every answer triggered more questions.”
“And soon enough, after going to every length possible to confirm the birth certificate’s authenticity, you start asking, what is reasonable here?”
“Because if this document is forged, then they all are. ”
“If this document is forged, a U.S. senator and his presidential campaign have perpetrated a vast, long-term fraud. They have done it with conspiring officials at the Hawaii Department of Health, the Cook County (Ill.) Bureau of Vital Statistics, the Illinois Secretary of State’s office, the Attorney Registration & Disciplinary Commission of the Supreme Court of Illinois and many other government agencies.
Sounds like a Vince Flynn novel.”
525 BlackLion31U // Dec 3, 2008 at 2:58 pm
Oh but then I forgot, now all of those fact checking sites are liberal conspirators too. Darn
526 BlackLion31U // Dec 3, 2008 at 3:01 pm
Maybe this is the answer:
Get one of these conspiracy people to provide a “real” birth certificate from a Hawaiin citizen born in the same year and see if it is any different than that provided by Obama. That would seem easy enough to produce, eh?
527 Hawkeye // Dec 3, 2008 at 3:04 pm
BL31U,
There’s one simple way to end the controversy which Obama himself has engendered… simply release the information. Or is it possible that in fact “a U.S. senator and his presidential campaign have perpetrated a vast, long-term fraud”…?
528 BlackLion31U // Dec 3, 2008 at 3:26 pm
Hawkeye,
I’m all about full disclosure. My point is what if he has? If someone could provide a personal birth certificate from Hawaii with different information than the one provided by Obama, then there MIGHT be reason to question further. I haven’t seen any yet.
529 gafisher // Dec 3, 2008 at 3:40 pm
You miss the point, BL31U. The Constitution makes a positive requirement — the President’s citizenship and age must be certain.
530 BlackLion31U // Dec 3, 2008 at 4:12 pm
gafisher,
I understand. If the document provided to date, is a legal document of the state of Hawaii providing that information then that is certain enough and this is just a wild goose chase.
531 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 3, 2008 at 4:21 pm
Why does this Black Lion person think BHO has already produced his birth certificate when he most certainly has not?
532 Hawkeye // Dec 3, 2008 at 4:26 pm
BL31U #526,
Been there, done that. A typical “long-form, vault-copy” birth certificate looks like… THIS. But Obama won’t release his. The one everybody has seen is a “short-form” COPY that was produced supposedly in 2007 (even though it uses a 2008 border)… Hmmm?
533 RepublicanAttackMachine // Dec 3, 2008 at 4:27 pm
He doesn’t think that he has, he is just being blackLIAR , (a typical, defend O-blah-blah even when there is no defence), as usual.
534 Hawkeye // Dec 3, 2008 at 4:50 pm
BL31U #525,
Oh but then I forgot, now all of those fact checking sites are liberal conspirators too. Darn
Interesting that you should mention that. FactCheck.org claims to have no relationship to Barack Obama or Bill Ayers, yet they say HERE…
Gee. Obama and Ayers worked for the Chicago Annenberg Challenge… FactCheck.org is a Project of the Annenberg Foundation. Both get (got) their money from the same place. Nothing to see here. Move along. Move along…
535 RepublicanAttackMachine // Dec 3, 2008 at 5:14 pm
Riddle me this blackLIAR:
If Obama has indeed provided his birth certificate, (which even a MORON knows he has NOT), it would seem the MSM/Big “O” kissers, would be ready, willing, and able to report on this story, because a LIGITIMATE document would put an end to all the speculation, now would it not? The reason they do NOT report on it is because, there IS NO AMERICAN birth certificate, and he will get away with it, as he did with the ACORN voter fraud.
blackliar, in person, do you LOOK as dumb as you SOUND here defending Little “O”?
I’m betting you DO!
536 onlineanalyst // Dec 3, 2008 at 6:24 pm
BlackLion31U // Dec 3, 2008 at 1:34 pm:
That is an intriguing selection of quotations you cite. What is the source? I’d like to read the unedited version.
Three of the four governors you quote are Dems. I expect no less of them for sending up Obama hosannas.
Heh, Paterson of NY, another Axelrod “creation,” is seeking federal bailout money for his overtaxed, under-fiscally responsible state. Is he “too big to fail,” too?
537 BlackLion31U // Dec 3, 2008 at 6:28 pm
ram,
You are really very sad. Again I ask, do you by chance suffer from teretts syndrome? Because you surely sound as if you do.
You fall so beneath me or anyone else here with your behavior.
538 BlackLion31U // Dec 3, 2008 at 6:32 pm
OLA,
Here’s link: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1208/16153.html
539 onlineanalyst // Dec 3, 2008 at 8:22 pm
BL31U: Thanks for the link. Politico attempts to be “fair and balanced,” but it sometimes skews a bit to the left.
Several points struck me in that article. It said that 25 states are looking for some kind of fiscal bailout. Many of their problems are caused by social entitlements such as Medicaid.
Schwarzenegger has big problems in his state with high taxes driving out business and entrepreneurs and huge numbers of illegals drawing on social services on the taxpayers’ dime.
I wonder how many of the states (and cities in them) are led by Democrats. Their report cards of fiscal restraint and budget soundness are not too good. The service unions and government workers’ unions are driving taxpaying people out of their states and cities. Business/corporate taxes and unions keeps too many growth opportunities out of states and cities. The tax base disappears when government gets too greedy.
Granholm in MI will put the final nail in her state’s coffin if she puts through her latest tax schemes.
Quoted late in the article that you cite, Sandford and Perry, both Rs, express skepticism about bailouts and stimulus packages. They had a good editorial in the WSJ about the topic yesterday.
Check out the Peter Ferrara commentary at http://www.americanprowler.com for some other food for thought regarding the issue of bailouts, stimulus packages, Keynesian economics and a trillion dollar deficit.
Pouring bailout money into failure will not address our economic problems.
I am really furious at Hank Paulson (yes, I know- Bush’s Treasury Sec) for his ineptness in creating/exacerbating this problem. Did Paulson do so knowingly? Did he have a larger purpose? What exactly has been his guiding principle?
The American people were sold a bill of goods with TARP. Obama would be wise to look elsewhere to inject life into the economy. Ferrara’s ideas would bring stability to our dollar and create jobs/wealth/hope for the American people.
540 Darthmeister // Dec 3, 2008 at 8:43 pm
Independent embed reporter Michael Yon’s The Art of the End of the War is an excellent update on American operations in Iraq today.
It’s pretty telling how the national socialist media has ignored Iraq (and to a less degree, Afghanistan) except for the occasional mention of an Islamofascist homicide bomber who get’s “lucky”.
Glad I don’t depend on the lamestream media for my news about what is really happening here in America or in Iraq.
BTW, the little rat filth al Franken is still trying to steal the election from Coleman in Minnesota, particularly as Coleman extends his lead to +340 votes.
541 Darthmeister // Dec 3, 2008 at 8:57 pm
Blacklion, why won’t/can’t Obamessiah produce a certified copy of his vault birth certificate like the one Hawkeye linked to? It’s not like he’s a product of some inexplicable virgin birth, right?
Since there hasn’t been one shred of evidence advanced by either him, his handlers, the appropriate Hawaiian officials or the national socialist media that Mr. Obama’s vault birth certificate has either been damaged due to flood, consumed in a fire or simply misplaced, surely his original Hawaiian birth certificate exists … and if it exists, why hasn’t it been produced by Mr. Obama?
I’d like nothing more than for him to put this whole thing to rest, particularly since it is within Obamessiah’s power to end all this honest inquiry BY SIMPLY PRODUCING A CERTIFIED COPY OF HIS VAULT BIRTH CERTIFICATE. Why all the obfuscations on his part and that of Hawaiian officials on this matter? Don’t you find it a little interesting that the man has not or cannot produce something so basic as a certified original birth certificate? We’re not talking about someone born in colonial America, rather he is purported to have been born in the 50th state of the United States of American in 1961.
Just asking.
542 Darthmeister // Dec 3, 2008 at 9:00 pm
Sheesh … that’s “the United States of America”. At least I didn’t claim Hawaii was the 57th state of the Union.
Typing waaaaaay too fast. Sorry.
543 mindknumbed kid // Dec 3, 2008 at 10:10 pm
I reckon Obama is just too busy workin’ in that Office of the President Elect to worry about that old piece of paper tuck away inside of some vault in Kenyawaii. A messiah without the benefit of deity really has to focus on the tasks at hand, and he is working to have every problem solved before the curtains are hung in the White House. You VRWC types need to quit blabbering on endlessly about some obscure document that may not even exist!
544 mindknumbed kid // Dec 3, 2008 at 10:28 pm
It all makes a thinking person to conclude that the reason he ain’t is that he cain’t. Most of us males when challenged by words that imply that we cain’t do somethin’ set out to prove that (dare I say this?) yes, we can! In 12 days the EC meets, is it possible for them to award the Presidency to Obama without him being legally qualified? And if not, then what if they do? Isn’t there anywhere in this process that requires documentation? Will Obama be an undocumented President?
545 mindknumbed kid // Dec 3, 2008 at 10:32 pm
I too wish for the issue to be laid to rest soon.
546 mindknumbed kid // Dec 3, 2008 at 11:00 pm
And if he isn’t qualified we need to petition the court for a do-over of the election because of the fraud that had been perpetrated on us. The cost of the do-over should come out of the funds of the parties guilty of perpetrating the fraud. Perhaps then they would be a bit more thorough in the vetting of candidates.
547 Fred Sinclair // Dec 4, 2008 at 12:36 am
mkk #544 - If he’s gets the Electoral Votes on Dec. 15th and is sworn in on Jan. 20, 2009 There’s signifiant precedent for this, throughout recorded history. You will recall Jacob and Esau - Gen. 27:23 And he discerned him not, because his hands were hairy, as his brother Esau’s hands: so he blessed him.
Jacob then became the first usurper, and so it has been, down the line of history, through the reign of many a King and Princes without count, in countries around the world. Usurpers take power through manuverings, trickery, lies, etc.
Basically seizing power by whatever means is called for. In any case it’s a matter of activating a successful coup d’état - the major differences being that some are more violent than others and some are more obvious than others.
You ask: “Will Obama be an undocumented President?” - maybe (among other things) but he will forever be “President Barack Hussein Obama, Usurper”
Why not just scrap the current system, admit that we are living in the 21st Century and enlist the services of proven experts (you don’t get to be #1 in 39 Countries by being wrong.)
Call in the clowns -er-”EXPERTS”. I submit that they could not do worse than our current system. (and besides, I’m sure they would be a whole lot cheaper.)
America’s Got Talent
Judges: Simon Cowell; Jerry Springer; David Hasselhoff; Sharon Osbourne; Piers Morgan - they have the credentials and the track record for picking winners.
548 Fred Sinclair // Dec 4, 2008 at 5:34 am
I found this sentence, which made me wonder:
“Less than two months remain until he will hand over his White House keys to Barack Obama”
Are there really any keys to “hand over”? I’ve been in the White House but don’t recall seeing any locks on the doors.
Maybe it’s just an expression like a Mayor giving “The Keys to the City” to some prominent individual - generally a foot long plastic key that doesn’t open anything, but is a ceremonial stunt for the onlookers.
I could suggest where B.O. can put those “keys”.
549 mindknumbed kid // Dec 4, 2008 at 6:16 am
Most men care about how his fellow men view him and when it comes to leaders they are concerned about their legacy. I would not want to be viewed as being illegitimate, or a usurper. I would do everything within my power to prove otherwise, and I’m betting you would too.
550 mindknumbed kid // Dec 4, 2008 at 6:23 am
Fred - re#548, I doubt that there are any actual keys to the front door, maybe Bill had some privacy locks installed here and there, but with the way our government works there is probably at least a couple of positions entrusted with keeping the “keys” or maybe even an official White House locksmithing staff.
551 Hawkeye // Dec 4, 2008 at 9:32 am
Darth #540,
Thanks for the link. Good read.
552 RepublicanAttackMachine // Dec 4, 2008 at 3:34 pm
MKK and Darth: The reason Obama doesn’t think he has to provide his imaginary Hawaii birth certificate is, he is relying on liars like blackLIAR with his drunken stupor rhetoric, and the race baiters who are threatening civil war if Obama is removed. All because he did NOT follow the Constitution.
Funny how blackliar and his fellow trolls, not long ago were spewing their tired old lies about how Bush had ignored the Constitution, yet when their messiah “O” ACTUALLY does ignore it, they swear to the lie that he has provided his BC.
blackLIAR, did you lie this much as a child? I have always heard that is a plea to be liked.
Guess what? It is NOT working!
553 RepublicanAttackMachine // Dec 4, 2008 at 3:39 pm
Did you see where Obama’s mother in law is to move in at the White House? If we didn’t know before who whears the “pants”, we do now!
Maybe “O” can also invite his Kenyan in laws and I am sure Bin Laden needs a new place to hide, ’cause I bet he is somehow related to him too!
554 RepublicanAttackMachine // Dec 4, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Can the “rappers” overnight stays in the Lincoln bedroom be far behind?
“Pot” and “blow” for one and all!
555 mindknumbed kid // Dec 4, 2008 at 9:08 pm
Well now, apparently the engine block heater failed in my 2008 IH Durastar truck, so this morning in the single digit temps it took right at 3 hours to get the young girl started. When I’m three hours behind schedule I can usually make up about an hour by putting my nose to the grindstone and focusing on getting things done, and though I put forth a valiant effort I remained about three hours behind. On my sixth account the truck didn’t start like it normally does after being warmed up even if only for five minutes. When attempting to leave the seventh account for the day it refused to start even with multiple attempts. A co-worker brought my old truck by and it took off after a quick jump start, strange seeing as it only requires about three revolutions to start and I had cranked close to 20 times that much before the batteries failed. I easily lost about 2 more hours switching into my old truck and dropping my new one at a local truck dealership. I may have it back by next weeks end if I am lucky. What a tough day, I think I’d like to just stay home tomorrow! I need the overtime, but it isn’t very fun getting it this way…
556 mindknumbed kid // Dec 4, 2008 at 9:45 pm
If we get a do-over for the Presidency I want to draft Scott Ott as our candidate!
557 gafisher // Dec 4, 2008 at 11:22 pm
OLA Re#539: “… 25 states are looking for some kind of fiscal bailout. ”
And 25 others are above average. Must be a Bush effect. In Obama’s America all the states will be above average …
Regarding Granholm, whose goal is to pound the bell curve so flat Michigan’s economy will be the new Death Valley, one of her latest schemes is to increase unemployment taxes on the dwindling number of businesses which are still in operation, to pay for the ones which have closed and are no longer contributing. I can imagine her doing battlefield triage, pistol in hand —
558 RepublicanAttackMachine // Dec 5, 2008 at 12:08 am
Funny thing, One of the States doing great and not asking for a handout is Indiana under former cabinet member, Mitch Daniels. He should be teaching the other Governors how to turn a State around after 16 years of Democrats screwing it up, yet there has been no mention of the GREAT job he has done in Indiana.
8 of the years of out of control spending were thanks to “lap dog” Evan Bayh. Even then, Bayh was more concerned with moving up the ladder politically than with actually helping his fellow Hoosiers. Oh wait, I almost forgot, he was a carpetbagger, like Hillary. Sorry, didn’t mean to call him a “Hoosier”.
In four short years Indiana went from being in trouble and in the red ink, to a surplus in the BILLIONS! That is why in the same State that went for Obama, he (Mitch), demolished his Dem opponent. Guess even Indiana Dems have some sense.
Of course to ask Daniels to teach these other “beggars” how to save their State’s would require them and the media to admit Daniels and Bush actually did something right and we all KNOW, that will never happen!
559 mig // Dec 5, 2008 at 6:07 am
If you don’t listen to the news, it sure doesn’t seem like the Great Depression. It feels disrespectful to throw these words around when we have nothing in common with those great Americans that made it through that time of our history. They actually suffered, we only imagine it.
560 gafisher // Dec 5, 2008 at 6:59 am
Ominous. No ads. No Amazon links. No YouTubes. No PayPal donation box. No word from Scott, either a story or a comment, in weeks.
I’m concerned.
Scott’s Speaker’s Bureau listing is still there, ScottOtt.org is in operation, and his Townhall blog is up, but none of them appear to have been updated lately either. I even checked the original Scrappleface blog — it’s still here — but found no sign of our friend and brother there either. Thankfully, Scott’s Twitter page shows relatively recent (and, as always, thoughtful) activity, but could it be that he’s moved on to things more worthwhile, more serious, and presumably more profitable than tossing pearls before us?
Can you give us just a word, Scott, a note to let us know how you’re doing? Did you get that Press Secretary gig at the White House? Your own show on CNN (or PJTV)? America wants to know!
561 gafisher // Dec 5, 2008 at 7:20 am
mig Re#559: My folks remember the Great Depression. They remember owning one pair of shoes, and those with cardboard inside because the soles were worn through. They remember losing their Dads — both my folks — one through heart attack and one through stroke as they worked for the WPA. My Mom remembers getting up early on Saturdays to sell sandwiches to ice fishermen on Black Lake, and how happy they were if someone bartered a freshly-caught fish for a sandwich.
My folks hear the news today and believe it; my Mom wept when I lost my job — the company closed — because she fears we’ll become destitute.
And my folks misremember how FDR “ended” the Depression, and because Obama promised the same things, they both voted for him. I don’t have the heart (perhaps it’s because I do have one) to tell them they’ve been suckered, and that by associating Obama with the man who extended the Great Depression by a decade and made it infinitely worse than it should have been, they and others like them may well have imposed much of the worst of that era upon their children and grandchildren.
wv - gational NUNOZ - what more can be said?
562 gafisher // Dec 5, 2008 at 7:31 am
RAM Re#558: I suspect the Governors of most of those “troubled” states could hardly care less about what Mitch Daniels did to restore Indiana’s economy. Politicians like our own Generous Jenny Granholm define success along an entirely different continuum, one which above all assumes the very people who elected them are too stupid to run their own lives and need the wisdom which emanates from Government to bring order into their pitiful lives.
They will never ask Daniels to teach them; they’re convinced they have no need to be taught.
563 Fred Sinclair // Dec 5, 2008 at 8:03 am
Well it’s back to the hospital. Saw Doctor yesterday - wanted to put me back in hospital, then and there but I argued for an extra day to “take care of some things.” I was in the hospital from Nov. 7th till I got out on my birthday, the 12th. The problem involving my bottom (a severe variant of athlete’s foot, in the very, very last place you’d want it) has gotten worse. So today I will be going back into the hospital for an undetermined period of time.
This morning I will be trying to make arrangements for someone from my church to take care of Sally (my Cocker/Beagle companion); certain valuables (firearms, etc.), and giving away the things from my ‘fridge that will spoil. There’s a bunch of that stuff that needs tending to.
I hopefully request prayer on my behalf. From past experience it will not be fun. If I can get to a computer (not likely) I’ll stick in a comment on ScrappleFace if possible. Snail mail can reach me % Holland Hospital, Holland, MI 49423.
My biggie is doing whatever I can to avoid losing my independence and end up being put into a “Nursing Home”. That automatically zeros my Soc. Sec. Check, leaving me with an “allowance of $60.00 per month and $2.00 per day doesn’t do much in 2008.
I really don’t like this one bit, but they will also be treating my feet and legs for the lymphodema problem there. This old vehicle (my body), like all vehicles, is running down. Like everybody, my time will come and the good news is that with my belief in the Bible and my faith in the promises of Jesus Christ, I’m ready to go (I’ve had my “Forescore and Ten”) - but I’m certainly in no hurry to bring it about. So long as my brain continues to function properly, I’ll do my best to hang on.
During my last stay in the hospital, I had the pleasure of visits from some of my spiritual siblings from my church - there’s no way to properly thank them for making the time to visit - the value of such visits cannot be stated. “Thank you” is insufficient but it’s all I have - so to you who visited - Thank you. Also to you who sent cards and e-mails - thank you.
564 Fred Sinclair // Dec 5, 2008 at 8:08 am
My # 563 - Oops that should read “Threescore and ten” NOT “Fourscore and ten”
565 gafisher // Dec 5, 2008 at 8:16 am
Back to the resting ex-Senator-President-Elect-Elect, it seems Democrats want a more assertive Obama. Apparently even Bawney Fwank is getting testy, if you’ll pardon the expression.
566 gafisher // Dec 5, 2008 at 8:23 am
God be with you, Fred, and we’ll try to drop by as well. Scrapplers who want to email Fred can write him here during his hospital stay.
567 Hawkeye // Dec 5, 2008 at 9:17 am
Fred,
We will be praying for your speedy recovery and quick release. God bless you good sir. Keep the faith and trust in the Lord always. You are good man.
Your ScrappleFriends
568 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 5, 2008 at 10:40 am
[bold mine]
569 Ms RightWing, Ink // Dec 5, 2008 at 10:51 am
My heart is there with ya buddy. Keep the faith (which I know you will ). My body is fighting me also, likely because I spent days and days decorating the bunker so others can see some Christmas cheer. Many here don’t physically and emotionally connect to Christmas, so by decorating (I think I decorated 9 or 10 trees in the lobby and community room) those who struggle can come downstairs, listen to Christmas music and get an eyefull of color and brilliance.
Now I am dead. sigh.
As most know I live in a HUD apartment and more and more, mental issues are the reason folks are coming here. We are no longer a senior apartment because that is “not fair” to others who are looking for housing. Well, the best I can do is try to look at these folks as Christ would. I must admit it is hard. But little things like mega- Christmas is a place to start.
Also, I sadly think Scott is not coming back. He dropped a hint about this when he mentioned he could no longer tolerate the behavior of some “trolls.”
I will be on the top of the list of sad folks if it comes down to Scrapple going south-but nothing lasts forever. Scott has a wonderful family and who knows but perhaps he needs to spend more time with them.
I know if I ran Scrapple it would be a full time job.
570 nylecoj // Dec 5, 2008 at 1:23 pm
Re#560 and #569.
And anyone else who has brought it up.
I am going to throw my .02 in here and I am telling you now if the shoe doesn’t fit ignore it, and if you want to throw bombs at me do it at my under maintained blog not here. Mr. Ott does not need to hear anymore of our crap.
This place used to be friendly, we were gracious to one another and to Mr. Ott. When things got slow there were recipes and songs not tangents off topic with which we could beat one another.
Yes I see the above prayer offers but there has been name calling and rudeness. What happened to civil discourse.
People here are actually using the Bible as a sledge hammer!
And don’t say ‘trolls’ to me , in my opinion just based on the incivility of the words being thrown about almost everyone here can be considered a troll.
Mr. Ott is an amazing talented man, how may of us have stopped at the tip jar or complimented him on his work?
How many of us have written to him and wished him Merry Christmas?
We come into his backyard, gorge on his labor and then turn right around and focus on ourselves and our petty bickering.
I have no idea whether he will be interested in coming back, I am sure that he is burned out, just reading comments here burned me out and he was doing all of the work on top of having to read the comments.
Look into yourselves, be honest, if necessary ask him forgiveness.
All of you please have a Blessed Christmas Season.
J
571 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 5, 2008 at 2:41 pm
Briefly, in the early ’60’s I delivered this paper; the Citizen-Journal also, now that I think about it. East side of town.
572 RepublicanAttackMachine // Dec 5, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Fred, God bless you! Prayers for you my friend. I am so grateful to GOD that I can still, (so far), remain at home with my illness.
573 RepublicanAttackMachine // Dec 5, 2008 at 4:23 pm
nylecoj #570
OK, I will risk being the “bad guy” here to respond to you. You said:
“And don’t say ‘trolls’ to me , in my opinion just based on the incivility of the words being thrown about almost everyone here can be considered a troll.”
I added the “bold” to your words. ALMOST? Everyone but you, right?
“People here are actually using the Bible as a sledge hammer!”
The BIBLE is the BIBLE. GOD hates abortion, Obama wants even more! If Obama is “your President”, then you must approve of his “soon to be” executive orders overturning the partial birth abortion ban, or forced abortions in other Countries funded by ALL taxpayers! Maybe the Executive order he has promised to overturn the ban on stem cell research? I did not realize EVERYONE could not express our feelings and beliefs without checking with YOU first! I will admit I have used some words I would not usually use, but we are talking about the future of this Country! Time to stop being “nice” to GODless people!
“Mr. Ott is an amazing talented man, how may of us have stopped at the tip jar or complimented him on his work?”
I have hit the tip jar on more than a few occasions. I would have more often but my social security does not go far. I would have never mentioned it, but do now just to make sure people do not think YOU are the only one. Sorry to interrupt you while you pat yourself on the back!
“Look into yourselves, be honest, if necessary ask him forgiveness.”
I did that here a few threads back, (comment #21 PSA: Ronald Reagan’s Responce to 1976 Loss). Scott did NOT acknowlege or accept my apology. My Bible tells me, “If you do not forgive, your FATHER in Heaven will not forgive you.” What does YOUR’s say?
I guess you think the way to deal with hateful trolls is to “love them to death”? Of course, I am sure YOU think your way is the right way though. To me it sounds more like the way the liberals think. Even JESUS fashioned a whip from cords and drove the money changers from HIS temple. Even HE knew anger when HE was pushed to far!
That also shows when you chastise posters here, (and I am sure because of my comment I made to Scott, that I APOLIGIZED for was the purpose for this post), then say, “All of you please have a Blessed Christmas Season.”
Throwing bombs at other posters and then end with a pleasant comment sounds an awful lot like what black liar does day after day.
Pretty ironic that you chastise people for doing EXACTLY what you just did!
“I am going to throw my .02 in here and I am telling you now if the shoe doesn’t fit ignore it, and if you want to throw bombs at me do it at my under maintained blog not here. Mr. Ott does not need to hear anymore of our crap.”
I saved this for last. To you, it is alright to chastise some, (or as you said “most” of us), HERE, but we are supposed to”mind your orders” and reply at your blog? No way! YOU should have not opened a can of worms if you don’t want to “smell” the result!
Next time post a link to your blog and say you have some dirty laundry to air and do not want to do it here and then I will do the same. Works BOTH ways. YOU have done exactly what the trolls here want. To keep in fighting going.
BTW, I went to your blog. From the looks of the comments there, maybe you just want some visitors?
PS: You saw the prayers for Fred, but none were given from you. I guess he is not as fondly thought of by you as your feelings for Scott
574 Darthmeister // Dec 5, 2008 at 4:24 pm
Climate scientists say ‘08 will be coolest year of decade…
More evidence of Global Warming.
Obama Spent Four Times as Much as McCain in Last Months Before Election…
ObamaSoros did not, I repeat, did not buy the election. Only Republicans buy elections when they outspendDemocrats by four to one.
Milwaukee neighborhoods considering printing own money…
Since they are heavily Democratic neighborhoods they can do whatever they want when it comes to printing money … it’s in the Constitution.
Worker says ‘Joe the Plumber’ cover-up was forced upon her when she “unwittingly” accessed his files …
Yeah, right. And I bet she wasn’t a Democrat either.
575 nylecoj // Dec 5, 2008 at 4:33 pm
RAM,
I surely would not ever say that I have never acted poorly here or anywhere else. I have been coming here for years and am human so of course I probably have.
I see emptiness here and I am sad for Mr. Ott and for all of us that have been a community.
I would have done this at your blog if you have one but you are not linked.
As for my blog I don’t really care, I was simply hoping to cause our host less angst than he has already had.
snip…
PS: You saw the prayers for Fred, but none were given from you. I guess he is not as fondly thought of by you as your feelings for Scott
snip…
How sad of you.
576 nylecoj // Dec 5, 2008 at 4:38 pm
All of you do have a very Blessed Christmas.
You are always in my thoughts and prayers.
577 Darthmeister // Dec 5, 2008 at 4:40 pm
Now that Obama has been elected, we could be in Iraq for the next 100 years.
Heh!
So, if Mr. Obama doesn’t remove all American troops within 18 months of taking office as he promised on the campaign trail, can we then call him a liar? After all, the war has been won even though Mr. Obama said victory was impossible and the troop surge would only make things worse. So what’s his new rationalization for even keeping American troops in Iraq?
But don’t worry, Obama’s disciples will always remain faithful and true to him.
578 Darthmeister // Dec 5, 2008 at 4:47 pm
nylecoj, Merry Christmas to you and yours … and I pray there will be a happy new year in 2009 to those who know their Redeemer lives and forever makes intercessions for them despite their party affiliation!
Godspeed.
579 RepublicanAttackMachine // Dec 5, 2008 at 5:37 pm
nylecoj, I am sorry about the “prayers for Fred” comment. I should not have said that, and am VERY sorry. Please forgive me?
I suppose I am sorry to have lashed out at you at all. I am just so disapointed everyday to hear the next vile thing Obama has planned to overturn everything GWB has done to help this Country morally.
I will leave it here, just to say, it is time to stop letting GOD-less liberals gloat that America is about to go down, just as the other immoral nations did in history.
580 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 5, 2008 at 5:38 pm
I wish I had seen this bit of repartie yesterday, but I don’t watch that show.
Merry Christmas to You and Yours!
[Scott left another cryptic Tweet couple of hours ago]
581 nylecoj // Dec 5, 2008 at 6:07 pm
Re #578 and 579
Thank-you very much Darth.
RAM,
Thank-you. I will be glad to forgive you.
I completely understand the frustrations so many of us are going through.
All,
I have lurked here regularly and have become quite burnt out at the tenor of much, not all of what is said. What I was trying to say above and did it extremely poorly (which is why I don’t blog much, as RAM pointed out my blog doesn’t have much there and it is true)
I am horrible at putting my thoughts into words, but I do think if I can be burnt out Mr. Ott would be more so as this is his backyard. We have been priveledged to have him and I still believe we need to look into ourselves.
I hope Mr. Ott will forgive me for having made things worse here by trying to ‘help’
J
582 RepublicanAttackMachine // Dec 5, 2008 at 6:17 pm
nylecoj, You are VERY gracious. I cannot express how sorry I am for what I have said, not only to you but to a lot of people here recently. I know better and have no excuse. What you said is absolutely right.
I also want to ask blacklion31u to forgive me. I still do not agree with him politically, but I have said things I am ashamed of, and hope he sees this and can forgive me. I will still disagree with him, but will stop the name calling, I promise!
With GOD’s help, I promise to do better.
583 onlineanalyst // Dec 5, 2008 at 6:35 pm
JL3rd: Since I am a Tweet Luddite, what was the cryptic message?
Heh! The WV is “phoned Holmes.” I guess that the mystery would be solved then.
Shout out to Maestro Ott: Your bonus check has been sitting on my dining room table along with every other item that I have procrastinated over this past week.
584 Ms RightWing, Ink // Dec 5, 2008 at 6:57 pm
re:570
If anyone feels that I have been argumentative then I ask for your forgiveness. I try and stay a mile away from taking the bait thrown out by a few others.
I rarely post here anymore, though I read the blog daily. True, I miss the good old days, but time passes me by in many ways.
I have nothing more to say right now.
585 Ms RightWing, Ink // Dec 5, 2008 at 7:11 pm
geesh, I wrote that early this morning but forgot to hit the send button.
I kind of got on someones case a few weeks ago, but told him straight up I still cared for him and the words were to encourage him to quit snapping at everyone including President Bush.
We can offer words to others who are giving others a bad time. Though living here where I do I have discovered that saying less is best since it just rattles the meanness in others.
I don’t Tweeter and really don’t know what that is, but if it is as bad as Facebook, I want nothing to do with it. I despised Facebook
586 DrivebyMeteor // Dec 5, 2008 at 7:43 pm
“You know, Mr. Secretary, I have found out in the course of a long public life that the things I did not say never hurt me.â€
~ Calvin Coolidge (1872-1933) : conversation with Dwight F. Davis, Secretary of the Army.
587 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 5, 2008 at 7:54 pm
nylecoj~~
As the worst offender, I apologize.
I first came here, several years ago, on a tip from someone I chatted with for years in one of the very few Christian chat rooms on the old AOL.
I lurked here for a while, of course, but anyway, I’ve often wondered if I should have stepped onto the playing field at all.
~~~~~
FWIW
I have a blog, too. I experiment on it far too much [layout and graphics] but it works. I’m on Blip.fm and Twitter, too. I do not own an iPod nor an iPhone, I have enough fun on this machine (and it has actual speakers and a 1680×1050 screen).
588 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 5, 2008 at 8:02 pm
onlineanalyst~~
He tweeted, “Silence is not nothing.”
The previous twit [the 27th] said, “When, from idle converse parting, a wish of holiday bliss falls upon you this day, turn again and ask ‘To whom shall I give thanks?’”
589 nylecoj // Dec 5, 2008 at 8:29 pm
RAM, JL3, MS RW, and All,
Thank-you. You have brought tears to my eyes with your kindness and understanding.
J
590 Fred Sinclair // Dec 5, 2008 at 9:36 pm
GOD SURELY DOES ANSWER PRAYERS!!! MAX Bus picked me up @ 2 P.M. by 3 I was being checked at the ER. They took lots of blood samples, swabs, cultures, etc. and I don’t know what all else. After about 3 hours on the gurney (watching TV) The Doctor came back with the results.
Says the Dr.’s yesterday didn’t understand the background history that went with the problem - “Nothing we can’t handle with outpatient care.” And sent me home. MAX had a bus there for me @ 6:30 P.M. & I was home by 7.
Sally’s back home and all is well. I’ll admit the Dr’s yesterday had me very concerned - unfortunately in my concern - I had forgotten the basic, fundamental rule of thumb. “Doctors and Liberals are like peas in a pod, except that Liberals are far more trustworthy. Liberals can be trusted about as far as I can throw a full grown horse. (i.e. not very far)!
For those interested the discharge paper reads in part… (1). You have been diagnosed with a Decubitus Ulcer. (2). A Decubitus Ulcer is also known as a pressure sore or “bedsore”
Additional info - google or better yet dogpile “Decubitus Ulcer” cause I’m not going to type all this out. I’m too tired for such exertion,
My grateful thanks to all who prayed; I’m a very firm believer in the power of prayer. What started as a serious problem was remade into a “fixable” event. But I don’t believe in coincidences or ‘luck’. God is still in charge and if I chose to call it an “Act of God”, then that’s my choice. Thanks again for all the many prayers that went up on my behalf.
591 RedPepper // Dec 5, 2008 at 9:44 pm
JL3 #588: Thank you for posting that info. Semi-Luddite that I am, I would never have seen it otherwise …
p.s. Hope you’re enjoying the Christmas season.
592 mindknumbed kid // Dec 5, 2008 at 9:49 pm
If I have offended anyone here I too am sorry that I have done so. And if I do offend in the future I ask that you confront me about it soon afterward and it can be addressed. However, so many are coming here today wondering if they have offended, and I want to emphasis that if you get offended then by all means call a time out and address it, ain’t nobody here perfect like I am, so let’s work on our skills a bit. We tend to discuss two “taboo” subjects here and even dare to combine them, and we are very passionate about our world, therefore we are quite apt to offend.
But if your offense is with the Word of the Living God, I have no apology. I do not intend to use it as a bludgeoning instrument, if you feel as though I am, that is not my intention. If you claim to have a relationship with Christ and do not reject the evil of abortion, same-sex unions, and things along this line do not expect me to be convinced to accept your point of view and to embrace such change.
I miss the humor that we used to have here, but as the nation turns further and further from God and his blessings things just don’t seem to be all that funny. We know the only person who can fix this world, the world continually rejects him but we find throughout his word that there is always a remnant that is more or less unnoticed in this world. I think of many of you here as being a part of that remnant, doing what little we can to affect others with Christ Jesus.
I want to encourage everyone to uphold one another in prayer daily, some, such as Fred, and many others are closer to the end of their race than others, such as camojack (who is just too busy enjoying life to get old) and myself.
And if the Great Mr. Ott decides that this is the end of the line, let us not go peacefully into the night, but rather, kicking and screaming like the passengers in Grandpa’s car as he drove off of that cliff into the river…
593 RedPepper // Dec 5, 2008 at 9:55 pm
Fred #590: Glad things are better. And a Merry Christmas wish to you too.
And the same to you other Scrapplers, btw …
594 mindknumbed kid // Dec 5, 2008 at 9:58 pm
Hey Fred Sinclair - Isn’t God good?
ps- When I say God I mean the one that created the universe, formed man out of the ground, breathed into man’s nostrils the breathe of life, and sent his only begotten Son to reconcile fallen sinful man unto himself, and who is preparing a place for all men who love him to dwell together with him for the duration of eternity. Not some other so-called god of another name who only exist in some men’s heads.
595 Fred Sinclair // Dec 5, 2008 at 10:00 pm
From my in-box a reply from Carl Levin and my retort:
Senator Levin - “as documented by his official birth certificate” have you, or can you name for me even one person who has seen this “official birth certificate”? The copies that have been posted and seen by millions have (both forgeries) been debunked as phony. The hospital in Hawaii has stated that they have the document in their vault and they will not release it to any one, at any time for any reason. How could you have seen it? His relatives say under oath that they were present in Kenya - at his birth??? - Fred Sinclair
On Dec 5, 2008, at 5:54 PM, senator_levin@levin.senate.gov wrote:
Dear Mr. Sinclair:
Thank you for contacting me regarding the false rumors surrounding President-elect Obama’s citizenship status. I appreciate you sharing your thoughts with me.
As you may know, Article II, Section I of the U.S. Constitution states that, “No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President.â€
President-elect Obama was born in Hawaii as documented by his official birth certificate. He is, therefore, a natural born citizen of the United States. Thank you again for writing.
Sincerely,
Carl Levin
596 gafisher // Dec 5, 2008 at 10:02 pm
nylecoj and all; if I have offended, I sincerely apologize. The battle is not against flesh and blood [Ephesians 6:12] and certainly not against anyone here. What’s done is done; in politics and life let’s look to improving the future, not lamenting the past.
wv - Maxine steers - Stay off the sidewalks!
597 mindknumbed kid // Dec 5, 2008 at 10:05 pm
Merry Christmas to y’all too. Can’t believe it is that time of year again. FYI- Christmas is a day we have set aside to commemorate the birth of the Son of God who lived his life to make the sacrifice that redeemed us from the curse of sin! FWIW- Santa is not going to help you with gifts, or anything else.
THE GIFT OF GOD IS ETERNAL LIFE - eat your heart out Santa Clause…
598 mindknumbed kid // Dec 5, 2008 at 10:12 pm
That “response” you got Fred sounds like a very generic answer to every piece of correspondence that has or will ever cross his desk. Senator Enzi’s response also asserted it as being fact that Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii, shall we just take their word for it?! This issue is becoming absurd.
wv - “Whitehouse to” isn’t that eerie?
599 mindknumbed kid // Dec 5, 2008 at 10:13 pm
FYI - Nobody here has come close to offending me.
600 gafisher // Dec 5, 2008 at 10:14 pm
Fred Re#595: If you ever expected the truth from — and I mean this in the most gentle and loving sense possible — Carl Levin, you have misplaced your trust.
601 mindknumbed kid // Dec 5, 2008 at 10:16 pm
gafisher - I was trying to set myself up to be 600teenth! I MAY have been offended…
NOPE, but you were very close…
602 mindknumbed kid // Dec 5, 2008 at 10:50 pm
but you ain’t bona fide…
603 mindknumbed kid // Dec 5, 2008 at 10:52 pm
Should we be singing Kumbaya now?
604 Fred Sinclair // Dec 6, 2008 at 6:14 am
These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
A false witness that speaketh lies,AND HE THAT SOWETH DISCORD AMONG BRETHREN. (Prov. 6:16-19)
When the Devil can infiltrate a Christian, Conservative blog and have Scrapplers involved in discord, I’m sure he dances with glee. Speaking to evil aka “The absence of God” will, by it’s nature, be seen as foolishness; foolishness by definition is offensive and speaking truth to the absence of God will always offend. (they want no part of the truth since to them, truth is always offensive)
Being offended is part and parcel of the meat in their diet. They thrive in being offended. Ergo: No apology is necessary. Regardless of what you may say or do they will find some way, amid your perceived foolishness, to be offended.
1Cor. 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
1Cor. 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
1Cor. 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness.
If you’re not offending somebody, the chances are you’re not being a good witness for Christ.
605 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 6, 2008 at 9:02 am
Full Disclosure:
I had to go to Dictionary.com for “Luddite”; something I’ve put off doing for approximately 58.833 years-I always pretended I knew what it meant. Anyway, it turns out I quite underestimated them; apparently, they were actually like madmen with sledgehammers, devolutionary zealots or something. The moniker comes from Ned Ludd, an insane Leicestershire worker, who was the spiritual leader of an organized band of weavers who destroyed machinery in Midlands and northern England 1811-16.
Merry Christmas
God Bless You and Yours
606 RepublicanAttackMachine // Dec 6, 2008 at 9:58 am
I cannot express how embarressed and ashamed I am of my responce yesterday to nylecoj. It tells a lot about her character to be so forgiving, so soon, after that last vile comment I made in my responce.
God will ALWAYS use everything for good though. After reading her responce to my attack, when I read what I had said to her, it made me realize that I have let Satan get control of me lately, and I should have been just as ashamed of what I have said to the posters that I do not agree with here.
Thanks to nylecoj, I am NOW!
I believe that you, nylecoj, have done more good here than anyone I can remember in that, you have made me take a long look at myself, and it appears others feel the same way.
I do not understand twitter either but, it is encouraging if Scott said, “Silence is not nothing”. I think that might mean he is watching and seeing if we can iron our differences out.
If you are watching Scott, I really am ashamed, and embarressed for what I said to you. I am humble when I ask your forgiveness, and will stop posting if I ever start name calling again.
I know now that what I was doing here was carrying over into my personal life, and destroying my relationship with GOD.
Thank you for waking me up nylecoj, and God bless you, and Merry CHRISTmas!
Fred: Thank GOD for your miracle! How wonderful that you can celebrate CHRISTmas with your beloved pet, in your own home!
Merry CHRISTmas, and may GOD bless you all, (yes, ALL!)
607 Ms RightWing, Ink // Dec 6, 2008 at 10:43 am
I slowed down to nearly a dead crawl on my posting here at Scrappleface when it seemed like we took a different tone, oh about a year ago.
We used to know each other like family and kept up with each others life. Then we moved away, slowly, from satire to a formal debate page. I didn’t see anything that brightened my day any longer.
It is always good to get into the thick of the battle but when it becomes dead serious, then there is any number of sites one can go to. I talked with another member which we don’t see much of and the same thing was told to me by her.
I would post little things here and there but it seems like nobody reads or answers what you post any longer-that is when Scrapple started turning away from its original idea, making it both personal and impersonal (allowing others to post also).
I know my MS has sculpted away some of my style and often it is hard to find the words to continue my thought pattern, so I feel that posting here is a waste because I can’t debate in a rough and tumble style that I once could-but I can still laugh. That is what has missing here for some time.
I am encouraged by the scriptures, and educated by the links, but oh my, we sure aren’t what we were 4 or 6 years ago. I’m afraid that if we can’t laugh, the next four years we destroy us.
There are dead serious sites to post at, even Scott’s Town Hall offers that. Oh, I guess I am just rambling here. There is a Christmas party I must attend, so my thoughts must stop here.
God bless one and all.
608 Ms RightWing, Ink // Dec 6, 2008 at 10:54 am
I lost me ol’ post I did??
609 mindknumbed kid // Dec 6, 2008 at 3:04 pm
Thought for the moment, wouldn’t it be a shame to be ready for Christmas while unprepared to meet Christ?
610 mindknumbed kid // Dec 6, 2008 at 3:07 pm
To push, or not to push. That is the dilemma.
Push, it is.
611 mindknumbed kid // Dec 6, 2008 at 3:15 pm
Remember the beautiful songs Scott gave us last year? Can we still link to them?
612 RedPepper // Dec 6, 2008 at 3:17 pm
Silence=Acceptance.
- Mark Steyn
Spread a rumor that a Koran got flushed down the can at Gitmo, and there’ll be rioting throughout the Muslim world. Publish some dull cartoons in a minor Danish newspaper, and there’ll be protests around the planet. But slaughter the young pregnant wife of a rabbi in Bombay in the name of Allah, and that’s just business as usual.
613 mindknumbed kid // Dec 6, 2008 at 3:22 pm
Here we go.
http://www.scrappleface.com/?p=2830
614 mindknumbed kid // Dec 6, 2008 at 3:41 pm
RedPepper’s link to the Steyn piece is good, I thought the last three paragraphs of it should be shouted from the rooftops. I guess that would make me one of the ones that the Muslims are worried about.
615 mindknumbed kid // Dec 6, 2008 at 3:48 pm
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122833189150076359.html
Can we comprehend the naivety around us?
616 Fred Sinclair // Dec 6, 2008 at 4:00 pm
I saw it on the ‘Loose Ends’ episode of “Burn Notice”. “Admit nothing, deny everything, vehemently accuse your opponent with counter-charges of doing exactly whatever it is that you’ve been doing”. Basic ‘Special Forces’ - ‘Green Beret’ training. Either the Liberals stole it from “Burn Notice” or vise versa. But it fits the liberal’s game plan perfectly.
They screwed up with the Sub-prime mess (not to mention the economy of the entire world) by failing to ring in a handy RINO to take the fall. With the ensuing “Bailout” catastrophes, they really, really needed a ‘Judas Goat’, but as Rush pointed out, If they could have found a Republican - ANYWHERE - he would already be in prison. Instead they have the blatantly obvious chain of connections with Democrats teaching Democrats how to teach Democrats to be Democrats. The egg is all over their faces and all the libbers pretend not to see it. The MSM avoided it like leprosy. Personally I would prefer the company of someone with leprosy over a person afflicted with the disease of liberalism.In the right environment liberalism has been found to be highly contagious. An inoculation of serious Christian Conservatism is about the only hope for those necessarily exposed to the debilitating disease of liberalism.
I pray to God that a Jonas Sauk type of Scientist could develop a vaccine that would do for liberalism what Sauk’s vaccine did for Polio but then “pie in the sky” is indeed an elusive dessert.
617 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 6, 2008 at 5:01 pm
There was a Monk episode featuring Hansen’s Disease. One of the funnier episodes actually. Monk is my earthly mentor.
618 gafisher // Dec 6, 2008 at 5:12 pm
mkk Re#601 — I do most sincerely apologize; my comment could well have waited. I’ll stand clear to avoid another friendly fire incident as we approach 666.
wv - harvest arguments - Radical Apologetics.
619 gafisher // Dec 6, 2008 at 5:14 pm
JL3 Re#617: Monk’s OK, but the Pillsbury Doughboy is my roll model.
620 gafisher // Dec 6, 2008 at 7:01 pm
By the way, JL3, there’s a large library of full Monk episodes [here] which can be watched anytime for free.
621 mindknumbed kid // Dec 6, 2008 at 7:21 pm
I think maybe on of the counter-posters that lurk on the edge of darkness have dibs on #666. I do graciously defer to them, should they desire it.
622 mindknumbed kid // Dec 6, 2008 at 7:33 pm
on,one,whatever…why didn’t spell check tell me I misspelled one? And deffer is also a word, not that I know what it means, but spell check is alright with it. Noah didn’t think it was a word in 1828.
623 nylecoj // Dec 6, 2008 at 7:43 pm
Re#621
In that case I had better steer clear for a couple of days or I may really get myself in trouble.
624 RedRum151 // Dec 6, 2008 at 8:50 pm
mindknumbed kid: Spell check? You’ve got spell check?
Whatever you do, don’t go sharin’ that around! Be an awful thing if some folks actually learned how to spell their insults correctly!
( not sayin’ who . . . )
625 mindknumbed kid // Dec 6, 2008 at 10:03 pm
nylecoj - Go ahead - take a chance - you only go around one time.
RedRum151 - I have my spell checker under lock and key, if the purveyors of insults get their hands on one it won’t be my fault!
Any news as to whether or not Obama has been declared legal yet?
626 RedPepper // Dec 7, 2008 at 1:27 am
Rep. William “Cold Cash†Jefferson (D-La) has been defeated in his re-election bid.
Apparently, there are things even The Big Easy won’t put up with …
627 camojack // Dec 7, 2008 at 4:10 am
Darthmeister // Nov 25, 2008 at 7:52 pm
mnk,
About five years or so ago comment lines would occasionally reach into the 700 or 800s after about a week. There was at least one thread that went past a 1000! Rocky Mt. Lioness, Ms RightWing, RAM, Mack, camojack, Dr. Stuhl (who doesn’t post near enough here any more) and other long-timers remember those days!
Did somebody mention yours truly?
I was away for awhile (went to Costa Rica) and am just now getting caught up…with 600+ comments to get through, I finally finished.
Scott’s been AWOL, it would seem. Hmmm…
628 Fred Sinclair // Dec 7, 2008 at 4:22 am
JOKE OF THE WEEK - “COLD STEEL”
A wealthy man decided to go on a safari in Africa. He took his faithful pet dachshund along for company. One day, the dachshund starts chasing butterflies and before long the dachshund discovers that he is lost.
So, wandering about, he notices a leopard heading rapidly in his direction with the obvious intention of having him for lunch. The dachshund thinks,
“OK, I’m in deep trouble now!”
Then he noticed some bones on the ground close by, and immediately settles down to chew on the bones with his back to the approaching cat. Just as the leopard is about to leap, the dachshund exclaims loudly,
“Boy, that was one delicious leopard. I wonder if there are any more around here.”
Hearing this, the leopard halts his attack in mid-stride, as a look of terror comes over him, and slinks away into the trees.
“Whew,” says the leopard. “That was close. That dachshund nearly had me.”
Meanwhile, a monkey, who had been watching the whole scene from a nearby tree, figures he can put this knowledge to good use and trade it for protection from the leopard. So, off he goes. But the dachshund saw him heading after the leopard with great speed, and figured that something must be up. The monkey soon catches up with the leopard, spills the beans and strikes a deal for himself with the leopard. The leopard is furious at being made a fool of and says,
“Here monkey, hop on my back and see what’s going to happen to that conniving canine.”
Now the dachshund sees the leopard coming with the monkey on his back, and thinks,
“What am I going to do now?”
But instead of running, the dog sits down with his back to his attackers, pretending he hasn’t seen them yet … and, just when they get close enough to hear, the dachshund says………………
“Where’s that darn monkey? Sent him off half an hour ago to bring me another leopard.”
629 gafisher // Dec 7, 2008 at 9:02 am
RedPepper Re#626: Longstanding Democrat Representative Jefferson was not only defeated, and defeated by a Republican, but defeated in a heavily black and historically Democrat district by a Republican who worked hard to earn multiple degrees in the diverse fields of Philosophy, Physics and Law — after being liberated as a child from Vietnam when Democrats imposed their “cut and run” doctrine and forced the surrender of that brief democracy to the Communists.
Louisiana also retained another House seat for the GOP by electing Dr. John Fleming, a physician who soundly defeated his Democrat challenger for the seat opened by the retirement of Rep. Jim McCrery.
The national Democrat Party poured resources into the effort to keep these seats out of Republican control, including personal involvement by Obama; it may be telling that they won neither, perhaps a result of post-Obama “buyer’s remorse.”
630 Darthmeister // Dec 7, 2008 at 10:43 am
WEATHER UNDERGROUND: Keep the Faith in Obama, Baby!
Figures. Even Lenin would be proud, though it is interesting how this president of “change” has surrounded himself with Clinton “old guards” and apparently has no plan in removing American troops from Iraq (or Afghanistan) in 18 months. And what of FISA, NAFTA, tax increases to undergird the liberals’ welfare plantation, etc.?
631 Darthmeister // Dec 7, 2008 at 11:06 am
Fred Sinclair. With respect to the Hawaiian officials who purportedly “viewed” Mr. Obama’s birth certificate, it’s interesting to note their weasel words; they merely said his birth certificate was “legitimate”. They didn’t say Barry Soetero/Barack Obama is a legitimate, natural-born citizen having been born in a Hawaiian hospital, to an American woman, attested to by the attending physician, but rather the birth certificate itself is “legitimate”. And indeed it probably is since during the early 1960s Hawaii was notorious for issuing “legitimate” American COLB to children born on foreign soil.
I’m not trying to embellish any conspiracy theory here, I’m just reporting what has actually been said by Hawaiian officials as well as critics of this whole sordid process of verifying Mr. Obama’s bona fides.
Hawaii apparently had a two-tier system of recording live births during that time, they could issue either a CERTIFICATION of Live Birth to those born in other lands (like Kenya), or a CERTIFICATE of Live Birth to those born on American soil to American citizens. It’s also interesting that Barry refuses to release his school records which may have damning information continue therewithin. If this is not so, then why all the secrecy and skullduggery on his part since the man is only going to assume the highest office in the land which requires one to be “natural born”?
Anyone interested in this controversy can Google any number of sites that raise some pretty important questions as to why Barry Soetero/Obama continues to refuse to authorize the pertinent Hawaiian birth records registrar to release a certified copy of his vault copy birth certificate.
Personally, I would be more than happy to provide the $15 fee if Mr. Obama no longer has money budgeted for satisfying the constitutional requirement of being “natural born”, particularly in view of Barry having already blown $800,000 in top notch lawyers trying to keep his birth records under lock and key from public examination.
Once again, I wish Barry Soetero/Obama was more honest and transparent and simply release his certificate of live birth (it apparently exists since Hawaiian officials said they saw it) so we can see what hospital in Hawaii he was born in and the doctor who delivered him … all necessary information on an actual Hawaiian live birth certificate from the era.
JUST RELEASE THE DOCUMENT, BARRY, SINCE YOU’RE THE ONE THAT HAS BEEN PREACHING TRANSPARENCY AND CHANGE THE LAST 18 MONTHS! Quit being the hypocrite, sir.
632 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 7, 2008 at 11:56 am
gafisher~~
Thanks for the link! I aligned it neatly within my tidy, well-dusted bookmarks.
633 BlackLion31U // Dec 7, 2008 at 12:50 pm
RepublicanAttackMachine #582,
You have my forgiveness.
634 BlackLion31U // Dec 7, 2008 at 12:52 pm
RepublicanAttackMachine,
You have my forgiving.
635 BlackLion31U // Dec 7, 2008 at 12:53 pm
dang, doublepost again! hate when that happens
636 gafisher // Dec 7, 2008 at 4:54 pm
That’s OK, BL31U. Consider yourself forgiven.
That’s OK, BL31U. Consider yourself forgiven.
That’s OK, BL31U. Consider yourself …
637 gafisher // Dec 7, 2008 at 5:01 pm
Figures. Just when he’s starting to lose the reputation of breathing fire and blowing smoke, Obama admits he does just that. Thankfully he’s pledged to restrict that practice to areas outside the White House, which may still mean bad news for the Rose Garden, but let’s hope he doesn’t issue an Executive-Elect Order lifting the ban which currently restricts the Oval Office to unlit cigars.
638 gafisher // Dec 7, 2008 at 5:07 pm
BL31U — 636 as posted ended in a grin; my intent was friendly but it appears the emoticon was stripped out by the blog software.
639 Darthmeister // Dec 7, 2008 at 7:07 pm
gafisher, I guess Mr. Obama can be considered the liberal’s version of the Marboro Man.
Cue Marlboro music …
640 mindknumbed kid // Dec 7, 2008 at 7:41 pm
My other theory is that Scott was abducted by camojack and taken to Costa Rica, or maybe he went along of his own free will. Interesting fact that camo’s posts ended on the 13th of November just as Scott’s stream of threads dried up. We know that camo has returned from his latest adventure, will Scott suddenly return and break this “silent treatment”? The Shadow knows…
641 Fred Sinclair // Dec 7, 2008 at 9:03 pm
07:55 hrs (Hawaiian time) Dec. 7, 1941. I was 4 years old (turned 4 the month before) I can still recall the fuss and ado as my parents and some of their friends shushed each other (mainly me) as bulletins came over the radio as they bustled around the kitchen. The next day President Roosevelt made what has been dubbed “The most famous speech of the 20h Century”. I don’t remember it at all but I do remember my mother exclaiming “we are at War!!! From Wiki an excerpt from that speech - “Dec. 8, 1941: The attack yesterday on the Hawaiian Islands has caused severe damage to American naval and militaryforces. I regret to tell you that very many American lives have been lost. In addition American ships have been reported torpedoed on the high seas between San Francisco and Honolulu.
Yesterday the Japanese Government also launched an attack against Malaya.
Last night Japanese forces attacked Hong Kong.
Last night Japanese forces attacked Guam.
Last night Japanese forces attacked the Philippine Islands.
Last night the Japanese attacked Wake Island.
And this morning the Japanese attacked Midway Island.
Japan has, therefore, undertaken a surprise offensive extending throughout the Pacific area. The facts of yesterday and today speak for themselves.”
The symbolism of the date was highlighted in a scene in the 1943 film Bombardier, in which the leader of a group of airmen walks up to a calendar on the wall, points to the date (”December 7, 1941″) and tells his men: “Gentlemen, there’s a date we will always remember—and they’ll never forget!”
Now 67 years later China (who was our buddies back then; is no longer our buddies) and Japan who was our most hated enemy has thriving automobile plants doing splendidly well, here in America - Surely somebody mentioned it somewhere but if so I missed it, and thats a shame. Already we have spineless wimps trying their best to make us forget 9/11/01.
The slogans “Remember December 7th” and “Avenge December 7″ were adopted as a rallying cry and were widely displayed on posters and lapel pins.
“Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at the close of the day;
Rage, rage at the dying of the light!” — Dylan Thomas
642 camojack // Dec 7, 2008 at 9:04 pm
mindknumbed kid // Dec 7, 2008 at 7:41 pm
My other theory is that Scott was abducted by camojack and taken to Costa Rica, or maybe he went along of his own free will. Interesting fact that camo’s posts ended on the 13th of November just as Scott’s stream of threads dried up. We know that camo has returned from his latest adventure, will Scott suddenly return and break this “silent treatment� The Shadow knows…
Channeling Sgt. Schultz: “I know nothing!”
But at a guess, Scott will post something to commemorate Christmas, sooner or later…
643 mindknumbed kid // Dec 8, 2008 at 12:38 am
My late father-in-law turned 16 on Dec 7th,1941. I never asked, but I believe he probably felt as though his youth was stolen - as many who were forced to become men during times of war, particularly the two world wars. You have to play with the hand you are dealt, life holds no promises for anyone.
I have been very fortunate to have lived during this period of relative peace and tranquility. We cannot truly understand the sacrifices of so many who have made this life possible. To say to them “thank you” seems hollow. The sacrifice of the Son of God on our behalf is also beyond our comprehension, that we now can have peace with God because of that sacrifice is humbling. We are such a blessed people and yet we are often negligent in giving thanks. Even more rare is genuine heartfelt expressions of gratitude.
In everything, give thanks…
644 gafisher // Dec 8, 2008 at 7:30 am
mkk & Camo Re#642: Scott posted the “Obama resigns” story before it actually happened. We all know Scott’s prescient, but maybe this time he violated a prophetic embargo and is doing a month of journalistic penance.
645 gafisher // Dec 8, 2008 at 8:09 am
646 BlackLion31U // Dec 8, 2008 at 10:53 am
gafisher #636,
No emoticon needed. I read it as intended and laughed. Thanks
647 gafisher // Dec 8, 2008 at 11:22 am
Mea culpa.
Immediately after the election, I must admit I was one of those who expressed concern over Obama’s promised policies and actions, and was reproved for “not giving the guy a chance.”
Over the past few weeks, the concerns I and others may have expressed prematurely have apparently found a wider audience; today’s news includes the following:
C’mon, libs, if Obama proves his citizenship and gets the Electoral votes he needs on December 15th, let’s give the guy a chance.
648 BlackLion31U // Dec 8, 2008 at 12:43 pm
gafisher,
Are you saying that you share the same concerns with the leftist audience?
“Obama Birth Certificate Challenge Turned Down By Supreme Court”
“…Donofrio says that since Obama had dual nationality at birth _ his mother was American and his Kenyan father at the time was a British subject _ he cannot possibly be a “natural born citizen,” one of the requirements the Constitution lists for eligibility to be president.
Donofrio also contends that two other candidates, Republican John McCain and Socialist Workers candidate Roger Calero, also are not natural-born citizens and thus ineligible to be president…”
So John McCain isn’t natural born either? See what kind of people are digging this stuff up. Ludicrous!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/08/obama-birth-certificate-c_n_149229.html
649 DrLumplevin // Dec 8, 2008 at 2:12 pm
While Scott is on hiatus, some conservative satire on news can be found at:
http://lumpsfromtheleft.blogspot.com/
650 RepublicanAttackMachine // Dec 8, 2008 at 2:14 pm
Blacklion31U, Thank you! May you and your’s have a very BLESSED Christmas and New Year!
I promise to you, and all here, to think BEFORE posting and do better, (not only here but in my whole life)!
651 BlackLion31U // Dec 8, 2008 at 3:24 pm
To yours as well my friend.
652 mindknumbed kid // Dec 8, 2008 at 9:01 pm
In the interest of justice, let them be martyrs.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081208/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/cb_guantanamo_sept11_trial
And let Osama bin Laden become a martyr also. In fact, let all of the Jihadists at heart become martyrs.
We have elected Obama and the threat continues, all we can really do now is sit back and see how the left deals with this serious threat. As a Christian, and a free citizen of the United States, I plan to continue to live my life the same way I always have, not fearing what man may do to me. True peace and security is found in having Christ as Savior, knowing that whatever may come, in the end Christ will rule over everyone and everything. By His grace I have been reconciled, and in His providence I rest. Soon the cares of this life will be over and I will step through the veil of death and discover life…
653 Darthmeister // Dec 8, 2008 at 9:03 pm
LiberalsLeftists Express Concern Over Their Messiah’s AppointmentsWhat’s interesting to note is the radical left’s whining that Mr. Obama “hasn’t appointed any liberals”! Shows you just how far left they are since just about everyone of Mr. Obama’s appointments (with the possible exception of Mr. Gates) are liberals. What the left means is Obama hasn’t appointed someone like Bill Ayers, “Reverend” Wright, or a total nutjob like al Franken to a cabinet or State/Justice/Defense Department position.
654 mindknumbed kid // Dec 8, 2008 at 9:06 pm
It’s all about fellowship,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY0s6n0u9Vs
655 Godfrey // Dec 8, 2008 at 9:12 pm
Yeah, that whole birth certificate thing was absurd. Next they’ll be claiming that John McCain never landed on the moon.
In other news, I must say I’m concerned about Scott. He didn’t seem like the sort that would leave people who care about him hanging for nearly a month without so much as a peep (even we lowly, peripheral blog-frequenting types who don’t really actually know him as a person but care about his welfare nonetheless) .
It does seem out of character. Something has happened, methinks; I hope it’s something mild (like burnout) and nothing too serious.
656 Fred Sinclair // Dec 8, 2008 at 9:27 pm
mkk #652 - I agree with you 100%
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657 Darthmeister // Dec 8, 2008 at 9:31 pm
Blacklion, it doesn’t matter what the fruitcakes at Huffington Post think, most of the contributors there are a bunch of black helicopter conspiracy kooks anyway a la the “Bush Derangement Syndrome”.
Even though the term “natural born” is in the Constitution, it doesn’t preclude the Courts or Congress from defining what “natural born” means. Through constitutional legislative means the whole Congress has explicitly bestowed upon people like John McCain the status of “natural born.”
Though Wikipedia isn’t the end all on this issue, it does a pretty decent job of clarifying the history of the constitutional requirement of a President and Vice-President haveing to be “natural born”. It’s only partisan hacks and kooks like Professor Gabriel J. Chin who question McCain’s “natural born” status. Mr. McCain was born to TWO American parents in a hospital on an American military base in the Panama Canal Zone. By definition and in actual practice American military establishments in foreign countries are considered American soil, just like our embassies.
So what some leftist cranks might twist to try and create a false equivalence with the very real questions that have arisen about Mr. Obama’s steadfast refusal to release a certified copy of his vault birth certificate (by contrast McCain released his certified vault copy when the question was first raised) says more about the intellectual honesty of those on the left than the desire of those of us want some sort of transparent honesty from Mr. Obama. How is it a “conspiracy” or a bit of quackery on our part when we are simply asking that he produce his vault birth certificate to prove his eligibility, a copy which Hawaiian authorities says exists?
BTW, I wasn’t the least bit surprised the Supremes acted as a bunch of cowards and refused to hold Mr. Obama accountable to the Constitution of the United States. This irresponsible cowardice doesn’t bode well down the road for our republic since its becoming increasingly clear liberals are more than willing to play fast and loose with the Constitution when it inconveniences their political agenda. I seriously doubt a Republican would have gotten away with the smoke-and-mirrors Mr. Obama has engaged in on this very important constitutional issue.
658 mindknumbed kid // Dec 8, 2008 at 9:50 pm
I really can’t imagine why a person would be so resistant to provide a copy of their birth certificate. It does not add up, why cloud your own legitimacy? Even if we are all crackpots, why not humor us? What would an honorable person do?
659 mindknumbed kid // Dec 8, 2008 at 9:52 pm
Probably stay the “H” out of politics.
660 mindknumbed kid // Dec 8, 2008 at 9:56 pm
And about what He has done to facilitate the fellowship,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqZ_saaJkmU&feature=related
661 RepublicanAttackMachine // Dec 8, 2008 at 9:59 pm
I really want to be optimistic about Obama improving the economy BUT, when I hear about how the Big Three automakers hope for a resurgence is in cars like the VOLT, (electric car), and then a commercial comes on being sarcastic about “clean coal”, (knowing Obama wants to in essence put the coal industry out of business), I have to wonder what the cost will be for electricity if this happens.
662 RepublicanAttackMachine // Dec 8, 2008 at 10:00 pm
No more posting until that bad number comes and goes!
663 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 8, 2008 at 10:11 pm
Godfrey~~
See comments #580, #583 and #588.
664 RedPepper // Dec 8, 2008 at 11:19 pm
Godfrey, JL3, et.al.: What baffles me is that Scott has been able to restrain himself from taking a swing at one of the many recent ripe, juicy, potential targets for his satire! It’s … it’s … it’s ponderous, I kid you not!
/p.s. get thee behind me, number!
665 mindknumbed kid // Dec 9, 2008 at 12:24 am
Next post does it, unless someone has snuck in unawares and I hit it…
666 camojack // Dec 9, 2008 at 4:36 am
The Devil made me do it.
Anyway, I’m not superstitious like that…
667 mindknumbed kid // Dec 9, 2008 at 6:40 am
Whew! glad that one is over - you da man camo.
Brrrrr, it’s defying All Gore this mornin’ in Whyn-oming!
668 gafisher // Dec 9, 2008 at 7:23 am
Ah … glad that’s passed.
By the way, anyone interested in an excellent overview of the historic interpretation of “666″ will find [this] fascinating.
669 Hawkeye // Dec 9, 2008 at 9:18 am
Camo,
“666-teenth”?
670 Newsman // Dec 9, 2008 at 1:11 pm
Rumors questionning McCain’s and/or Obama’s true births are just garbage, pure and simple if you take the time to check the facts !
Rove type tactics are used on both sides of the fence ! Rove did not invent these scurrilous tactics. They have been around since George Washington !
Believe them at your own peril.
671 Godfrey // Dec 9, 2008 at 2:05 pm
JL3: Well, I’m obviously a bit late to the party…
I’m a bit “twilliterate”, I’m afraid, but from what I gather from post #663 Scott has been active elsewhere, just not here at SF. I guess that’s a good thing in that he’s apparently still among the living, but it makes me wonder about the guy (a man about whom, as I intimated before, none of us really have the slightest clue).
So why, after reading people’s concerned posts, wouldn’t he post a quick message saying “Hey guys, I’m taking a month off but I’m still alive”. Is he enjoying all the”why-hath-he-forsaken-us” navel gazing in the above posts (which, frankly, I find absurd; this is, after all, just a blog)? If so, what does that say about the guy?
If it’s just “burnout” there are better ways of handling it.
672 RedRum151 // Dec 9, 2008 at 4:58 pm
Rumor has it that Mr. Ott is being seriously considered by President-elect Obama for appointment to the post of United States Ambassador to the Republic of Elbonia.
Stay tuned.
673 Hawkeye // Dec 9, 2008 at 5:44 pm
Godfrey #671,
You said regarding Scott… “(a man about whom, as I intimated before, none of us really have the slightest clue).”
Perhaps you are not aware of this, but some of us have met the man and his family “Face2Face”. He is a wonderful, God-fearing man… and pretty darn funny too.
“So why, after reading people’s concerned posts, wouldn’t he post a quick message saying “Hey guys, I’m taking a month off but I’m still aliveâ€.
I assert that he has done just that in this post. If you ‘read between the lines’ you’ll see…
Claiming that the hectic pace of his work… has taken its toll, (Scott Ott) announced today he would… take a couple of months off to relax and finish a tell-all memoir…
“Like most hard-working Americans, you get to a point where you just need some ‘me time’… “Writing gives me that relief from the stress, and frankly, the exhaustion brought on by my periodic exertions…
Sorta says it all I think.
674 Darthmeister // Dec 9, 2008 at 7:41 pm
Welcome back from your sabbatical, Godfrey!
I imagine everyone is being innundated with all the news fit to be ignored from the great People’;s Republic of Illinois … ya know, Governor Blago. Interesting how most news accounts don’t even mention he’s a Democrat. It’s an extraordinary event here in modern times to have a sitting governor ARRESTED by the FBI.
If (when) found guilty, I personally don’t know if he should go to prison for being so stupid, for his arrogance in believing that he’s above the law or for apparently believing influence peddling, pay-to-play, and selling Senate seats is a perk of the governor’s office. Doh!
I mean, when some elected official is trying to wheel and deal in the most corrupt political machine in the world, it seems to me using your own home or office phone is pretty stupid, particularly when one is being investigated the last two years for other alleged crimes and political kickbacks! What hubris!
It’s kind of sad for his family, particularly his two daughters. And given how Blago was also trying to land a sweetheart set-for-life employment deal for his wife (as well as himself), I just hope she wasn’t involved in any way. That would particularly tragic for their daughters.
Wouldn’t you think it have been a little smarter to have bought and used some of those disposable cellphones at Wal-Mart when engaging in potential felonies? Sheesh!
Well, if they do hold a special election here in Illinois to fill the governor’s seat, you can bet Democrats will elect another corrupt Chicago Democrat to lead our fair state back to the promise land.
675 Darthmeister // Dec 9, 2008 at 8:00 pm
Newsman, I thought adversarial inquiry and questioning government officials was a good thing?
Or could it possibly be that your
messiahox is being gored? I can guarantee to you that if a Republican with similar “credentials” had become President-elect, you, all the liberal Democrats and the nationals socialist media would be howling, “What are you trying to hide, just release a certified copy of your vault certificate of live birth.” Quit being a hypocrite because you know that’s precisely what you would be doing given all your reprehensible behavior (and lies) toward President Bush that last seven or so years.I really don’t think this should be an issue now, it should have been resolved 18 months ago to EVERYONE’S satisfaction with Obama releasing a certified copy of his Hawaiian certificate of live birth. That’s how much I respect the Constitution. I don’t want any person who isn’t truly “natural born” to be leading this country - be they Republican, Democrat, Libertarian or Independent.
C’mon, how hard is it for anyone truly natural born to produce a certified copy of their original birth certificate? And if you think what’s been floating around on the Internet and what the lamestream media continues to proclaim as a “certified copy of his birth certificate” is an actual copy of an authentic, original birth certificate, then you’re more of a braindead lemming than I thought. Don’t you get it? We’re not asking for the impossible, just a little transparency … and quit insulting our intelligence with your stonewalling!
So I ask you again, Newsman, why won’t Obama simply release a certified copy of his vault birth certificate? It can’t be that hard since Hawaiian officials claim they’ve seen it and its “legitimate”. So Obama should simply RELEASE IT TO THE PUBLIC, right? Isn’t that what a true news media suppose to be screaming if they were really interested in the truth?
It’s Obama’s refusal to do so which is making this an issue. Why won’t he put it to rest with some real bona fides instead of letting his braindead shills and conservative pretenders try and shout us down? After all, we’re only talking about constitutitonal law as it relates to the highest office in the land.
676 gafisher // Dec 9, 2008 at 8:08 pm
Looks like Scott’s last paragraph may need a rewrite, something on the order of Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich must now choose a replacement who has money. Lots of money.
If he’s found guilty, of course. Like OJ, he’s assumed pure as the driven snow until then.
677 Fred Sinclair // Dec 9, 2008 at 8:19 pm
Darthmeister #675 - I can’t bring myself to believe Horowitz actually wrote this piece of garbage - do you (or anybody) know if it’s real?
Shut up about the birth certificate
Date: 12/9/2008 12:18:02 PM Eastern Standard Time
Horowitz has been Obamaized. He resolves his dissonance conveniently.
How valuable is our Constitution, indeed!!!!!! WTH??? Do laws no longer matter?
Horowitz has drunk a glass of cool aid and does not know who and what Obama really is. He is in the wrong paradigm.
The Obama phenomenon is a huge illegitimate con man contrivance of the finest quality. We will not get over this, as he suggests…neither will he.
Some of us are over it in the sense that there is peace in resignation, as we watch our Republic crumble away into the anarchy Horowitz embraces.
Horowitz thinks this will turn out as business as usual. IT WILL NOT!
We are experiencing a Marxist and possibly Islamofacist takeover of our economic and political systems…without any doubt! US of A, Fine`
bigg bill
—- Original Message —-
From: ZAK
To: ******
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 10:21 AM
Subject: Shut up about the birth certificate
We lost yet another Conservative voice…
December 08, 2008, 4:00 a.m.
Obama Derangement Syndrome
Shut up about the birth certificate.
By David Horowitz
The continuing efforts of a fringe group of conservatives to deny Obama his victory and to lay the basis for the claim that he is not a legitimate president is embarrassing and destructive. The fact that these efforts are being led by Alan Keyes, a demagogue who lost a Senate election to the then-unknown Obama by 42 points, should be a warning in itself.
This tempest over whether Obama, the child of an American citizen, was born on American soil is tantamount to the Democrats’ seditious claim that Bush “stole†the election in Florida and hence was not the legitimate president. This delusion helped to create the Democrats’ Bush derangement syndrome and encouraged Democratic leaders to lie about the origins of the Iraq war, and regard it as illegitimate as Bush himself. It became “Bush’s War†rather than an American War — with destructive consequences for our troops and our cause.
The birth-certificate zealots are essentially arguing that 64 million voters should be disenfranchised because of a contested technicality as to whether Obama was born on U.S. soil. (McCain narrowly escaped the problem by being born in the Panama Canal zone, which is no longer American.)
What difference does it make to the future of this country whether Obama was born on U.S. soil? Advocates of this destructive campaign will argue that the constitutional principle regarding the qualifications for president trumps all others. But how viable will our Constitution be if five Supreme Court justices should decide to void 64 million ballots?
Conservatives are supposed to respect the organic nature of human societies. Ours has been riven by profound disagreements that have been deepening over many years. We are divided not only about political facts and social values, but also about what the Constitution itself means. The crusaders on this issue choose to ignore these problems and are proposing to deny the will of 64 million voters by appealing to five Supreme Court Justices (since no one is delusional enough to think that the four liberal justices are going to take the presidency away from Obama). What kind of conservatism is this?
It is not conservatism; it is sore loserism and quite radical in its intent. Respect for election results is one of the most durable bulwarks of our unity as a nation. Conservatives need to accept the fact that we lost the election, and get over it; and get on with the important business of reviving our country’s economy and defending its citizens, and — by the way — its Constitution.
678 Newsman // Dec 9, 2008 at 9:27 pm
Darthmeister:
Now you have proven yourself to be the one who has no idea in h-ll what you are talking about when you state, “Quit being a hypocrite because you know that’s precisely what you would be doing given all your reprehensible behavior (and lies) toward President Bush that last seven or so years.”
Prove what you say about my “reprehensible behavior (and alleged lies)” or forever keep your mouth shut !
And if you want to speak of who lies and who doesn’t - What about GW’s claims that Saddam had hidden WMDs ? Nobody to date has found any evidence to support that assertion.
What about GWs assertion that Saddam represented a threat to the US? He could not have thrown a rock this far never mind a pile of camel dung!
We could have wiped him out in a flash before the rock crossed the Mediterrean !
Put that in your pipe, or wherever. Nuff said !
679 mindknumbed kid // Dec 9, 2008 at 9:31 pm
The audacity of hope (for a better job).
AP - Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich was roused from bed and arrested Tuesday after prosecutors said he was caught on wiretaps AUDACIOUSLY scheming to sell Barack Obama’s vacant Senate seat for cash or a plum job for himself in the new administration.
How could he sell the seat for “a plum job in the new administration” (did the writer mean to say “plump job”?) without someone with connections to facilitate receiving said job? How good of job can you get in an administration without direct involvement of the leader of an administration? Maybe the Governor was planning to ask Michelle to help him get a “good gig”?
Is there a way to send someone a check that can only be cashed to use for a specific purpose? If so maybe we could all send Obama a check for 12-15 dollars good toward the purchase of his vault copy birth certificate, so that say 15 million people send him a check to obtain it but he need only buy one copy to cash every check sent in. Once one copy was purchased and we examined it with our own eyes he could personally pocket many millions of dollars. It would be worth it if it provided a bona fide look at the real deal, and it doesn’t look as though the issue will go away until that is done…so? Most of us probably wouldn’t care to contribute toward his further enrichment, but for a good cause…what in the name of Sam Hill is he hiding? There is a reason…inquiring minds wish to know what it is.
Hummm, There Is A Reason -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWXNm9b6pKs
680 Newsman // Dec 9, 2008 at 9:37 pm
By the way Darthmeister - Obama’s birth was published in the paper in Hawaii when he was born.
Was he so precocious at the moment of his birth that he telegraphed the info from elsewhere to the Hawaiin Newspaper at the moment of his own birth because he knew he was going to run for the Presidency ?
681 mindknumbed kid // Dec 9, 2008 at 9:44 pm
While I am in the neighborhood might as well drop by another one of my favorites written by Ron Block and performed by the lovely and talented Allison Krause and Union Station.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLZAWtdFhio&feature=related
682 mindknumbed kid // Dec 9, 2008 at 9:47 pm
It was in the paper? Golly Gee-whiz why didn’t you tell us that a couple of months back newslessone?
683 mindknumbed kid // Dec 9, 2008 at 9:59 pm
Was there a retraction or correctionat a later date?
684 vittles scooper // Dec 9, 2008 at 10:55 pm
“Newsman” is a drive by mainstream media watching ignoramus. There is no birth certificate for Obama. Barack Hussein Obama is spending MILLIONS of dollars for high priced lawyers to fight all the actions in courts around the country. You are a despicable liar. And you dare to insult people who use facts and try to legitimately discuss with you the information and you just go and acuse them of lying when YOU are nothing but full of crap. Yes, you are an idiot who cannot face facts or, you could be just a filthy liar, who is totally aware of the fact that Obama is misrepresenting who he is, and COVERING UP FOR HIM. The forged certificate has been proven to be a joke. To end all the dispute he could easily produce the certificate. But he cannot because he was not born in the United States of America “newsman”. And stop insulting the smartest guy on this site, you little weazil.
685 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 9, 2008 at 11:29 pm
Too funny.
The part about the newspaper ad.
LOL
That is far, far more impressive as evidence than the actual birth Certificate could ever be.
Merry Christmas!
God Bless You and Yours
686 Fred Sinclair // Dec 9, 2008 at 11:50 pm
Tisk, Tisk… from some Scrappler’s postings it appears somebody has been feeding the trolls…..STOP IT!!! You should know that you have nothing on your side but facts and facts to a troll are an offense. It’s like stealing the sugar out of it’s Kool Aid; like puncturing the troll’s balloon that it uses to float from one candy cane mountain to another. If you yank their cotton candy cloud out from under them then they are in danger of falling back to earth (and reality) and becoming a conservative themselves. God forbid that they should be forced to look reality square on!
Fortunately for myself, I quit playing with trolls many months ago and believe my mental health has improved markedly.
Never forget - and “….take ye heed….:”
Mark 13:22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.
Mark 13:23 But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.
Take ye heed, Obama is in our midst. “The messiah”- the “Alpha and the Omega” BLASPHEMY!!!
687 Newsman // Dec 9, 2008 at 11:58 pm
vittles scooper mismo pooper scooper
Or, one who can’t think for himself !
Is this the best your fan club can offer Darthmeister !
688 Newsman // Dec 10, 2008 at 12:01 am
BTW - Where is the boss ???
689 mindknumbed kid // Dec 10, 2008 at 12:10 am
She’s upstairs talkin’ on the phone, soon she will come downstairs and see me on the computer again and sparks will shoot out of her eyes. I will then quickly finish whatever I am doing and take that long walk down the hallway towards the bedroom…maybe if I’m lucky and she is in a good mood I won’t get a good beatin’ tonight.
690 mindknumbed kid // Dec 10, 2008 at 12:15 am
Can’t help it Fred - it’s all a part of that UN thing to stop world hunger. Just like Obama these trollies are sit-us-ins of the whirled (brains).
691 mindknumbed kid // Dec 10, 2008 at 12:27 am
So the Tribune is going into bankruptcy. 13 billion dollars in debt. It obviously didn’t happen overnight. Will they ask for a gubment bailout too? Will there be a new gubment agency to monitor what they are doing and teach them how to do it the “right” (not politically) way of running a newspaper? Wonder why they didn’t try to figgur out what they were doing wrong a long time ago and think about finding a way to maintain profitability, it is a newspaper for cryin’ out loud, not like people have difficulty buying one if they want it. Not like there are ever changing gubment regs coming at ‘em from every angle. Maybe they have been taking what would have been profits and buying candidates…
692 Fred Sinclair // Dec 10, 2008 at 1:56 am
mkk #691 - Said he snail as he hitch-hiked a ride on the turtle, “Wheeeeeeeeeee!!!
It’s simply a matter of perspective (he’d never gone that fast before)
I slightly modified a different perspective that was sent to me and with which I fully concur.
Just Passing this along-
Sounds reasonable to this old Republican.
If you drop a frog in boiling water he will leap right out. If you slowly heat the water he will be content until it’s too late to get out. That is exactly how history works. It moves slowly and we never really see any danger until it’s too late.
Remember how suppressed workers were before unions came along? The unions leveled the playing field. Unfortunately, over a long period of time the pendulum swung too far. Slowly, businesses and factories closed and jobs left the country.
World War II, and the Korean War, demonstrated how powerful a united nation could be.
We were good at fighting a hot war but we were unprepared to fight a cold war with the communists in the 50’s. Their philosophy was to wait it out and capture the minds of our children. They loaded our colleges with many of their professors and waited. It didn’t take long to see the results.
The 60′’s ushered in the radicals, drug culture, student protesters, and the Vietnam War. The aim of the cold war was to divide and conquer.
The media, and Hollywood , hammered us with hate America themes and stories. Our service men, and women, were jeered, cursed, and spit on.
The Reverend King, who was raised in the old school, peacefully changed the race issue and united the people. When he died the new breed of leaders like the Jesse Jackson’s, Lewis Farakon’s, Al Sharpton’s, and Rev. Wright’s put a lid on his efforts and turned racism into a money making machine.
Corporations were green-mailed by threats of protests, product boycotts, or endless lawsuits. Every issue, large or small, became a race issue.
Even politicians buckled under to the pressure. The Florida legislature issued a formal apology for having slavery 200 years ago.
They divided our nation into two separate Americas . We now have Americans, and African-Americans, although Africa has nothing to do with being an American.
This election year could be the turning point in our history because the frog theory has come into play.
George McGovern was the first Presidential candidate to test the waters with college students. The Clinton’s played a big role in his campaign.
Step two was to infiltrate all the information vehicles such as radio, newspapers, magazines, TV and movies.
The big benefit of the Carter years is that they were followed by the Reagan years. The nation got a clear look at the difference between a weak nation and a strong nation.
Clinton took over Carters’ uncompleted social programs.
By the end of his term the left had captured a large share of the media and it flexed its muscle in 2000.
There were endless stories about our evil nation and its President. Top-secret plans were leaked to the press and printed for the entire world to see.
They now have the perfect candidate because they can squash criticism by playing the race card. If you don’t like Obama, or criticize him, you are a racist.
The only thing we really know about Obama is that his wife has never been proud to be an American. They want us to believe that his liberal college professors, Rev. Pfleger, his ties to radicals Bill Ayer and Lewis Farakon, and listening to the Rev. Wright’s hate talks for 20 years, had no influence on his thinking.
The change being promoted is a change back to the Carter years.
Returning to the Carter years of high taxes, high inflation, and a weak military is not the change we are looking for.
The old sage’s (over 50) should have played a bigger role in this election. The young people simply don’t know what the aged know. The advantage of aging is the knowledge you accumulated. You know what United States means. You know what the seldom-heard word respect means. You know how wonderful freedom and independence is. You know the difference between a strong and a weak nation; and you know what it takes to keep it strong. You know history because you have lived it.
Now, barring an overturn of this ‘election’; based on the usurper’s refusal to prove his Constitutionally required level of Citizenship (looking less and less likely) we are forced to bear the consequences of the rash mesmerization of our country’s youth (under 30) I see the resistance of the Obamanazation of America as a course lined with perils akin to that undergone by the “founding fathers” of our nation. They put it ALL on the line in resisting Britain’s home rule over these colonies we today call “The United States of America”. Can we in good conscious, dare to do less.
A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to ‘America for an amount of ‘ up to and including my life.’ That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.’
“Treason doeth never prosper, what’s the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it treason.†- John Harington
693 camojack // Dec 10, 2008 at 4:48 am
Hawkeye // Dec 9, 2008 at 9:18 am
Camo,
“666-teenth�
Sure, why not?
694 Fred Sinclair // Dec 10, 2008 at 5:28 am
Now, if Columbo was on this in his inimitable manner, “Ah…Sorry to bother you Mr. Obama, Sir……. Excuse me Mr. Obama, I mean Senator Obama, sir. Um . . . know you are busy and important and stuff. I mean running for president is very important and . . ah . . . I hate to bother you. I will only take a minute ok, sir?
See, I have these missing pieces that are holding me up, and I was wondering sir, if you could take time out of your busy schedule and help me out. You know, no big deal.
Well, listen, anyways, I can’t seem to get some information I need to wrap this up. These things seem to either be “locked” or “not available’ & nbsp; I’m sure it’s just some oversight or glitch or something, so if you could you tell me where these things are ..
Could you help me please find these things, sir?
Your Occidental College records
Your Columbia College records
Your Columbia Thesis paper
Your Harvard College records
Your Selective Service Registration
Your medical records
Your Illinois State Senate records
Your Illinois State Senate schedule
Your Law practice client list
A Certified Copy of your original Birth certificate
Your embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth
Your Harvard Law Review articles that were published
Your University of Chicago scholarly articles
Your Record of baptism
Oh hey .. . listen! I know you are busy! Is this too much for you now? Tell you what. I will come back tomorrow. Give you some time to get these things together, you know? I will be back tomorrow. And the day after……….; And the day after……….; And the day after………Without at least incontestable proof of your natural born citizenship, history will be forced to list you as ‘President-usurper’ Barack Hussein Obama.”
NOTE: It’s interesting that the media hasn’t deemed this info is as important as the smearing of Sarah Palin. Maybe if they were to spend some time on providing this information before the primaries, Barack would never have been the Democratic candidate. This is probably the most corrupt election of all time because of fraudulent voting and the deliberately slanted liberal coverage by the TV and paper media.
Treason doeth never prosper, what’s the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it treason.†- John Harington
695 gafisher // Dec 10, 2008 at 9:25 am
As the Nationalization of the US auto industry progresses it seems inevitable that the long tradition of memorializing politicians in the naming of roads and bridges will extend to the vehicles which traverse them. It’s certainly possible that within a few years we’ll be asked “Wouldn’t you really rather have a Baraq?” or told of the richly appointed upholstery of the new Oldsmobama.
Given that “change we can believe in” meant a flood of Clinton-era retreads, it seems reasonable to expect the all-new Congressionally-approved cars will include such futuristic features as tail fins, whitewall tires and fender skirts, and be powered by perpetual motion engines, but what else will the Democrat Central Planners mandate for this new generation of vehicles?
696 Darthmeister // Dec 10, 2008 at 10:37 am
Mr. Obamessiah lies again. Though he hasn’t been implicated in the ever expanding ring of Chicago-style Democrat corruption, when Mr. Obama claimed he had not spoken or met with Governor Blago about filling his Senate seat, this was a completely unnecessary lie he told.
A local news affiliate reported that Mr. Obama was meeting with Governor Blago on the morning of November 5th to talk about filling his senate seat. Even David Axelrod publicly admitted that “of course” Mr. Obama had met Blago to discuss the vacancy … but now claims he “misspoke”. Misspoke? Why not say he was mistaken and the meeting never took place. CYA?
Again, why would Mr. Obama feel like he has to lie when simply meeting with the Governor about the vacancy would have meant nothing more than meeting with the governor to fill his seat?
Sigh, Newsman, why do you continue to lie? Have you ever read the October 11, 2003 Joint Congressional Resolution for the use of American force in Iraq?. We’ve covered this all before … maybe before you were even posting here as a troll.
Read the thing and use a little reading comprehension skill. Yes, the intelligence may have been flawed ( starting under the Clinton Administration) about the exact WMD capability of Saddam’s regime, but the fact remains he had them, he used them on his own people and in the Iran-Iraq war, Saddam and his regime continued to resist UNSCOM efforts to verify no WMD remained in the country, Defenselink.com had documented at least 600 examples of discovered WMD in various states of readiness that your side explains away because of the date of the manufacture and the poor storage conditions they were found in despite some of them being in pristine condition (so some WMD did indeed exist despite the best efforts of liars on your side of the aisle and in the national socialist media trying to explain them away), and the list goes on. You know the truth, you’ve heard the truth, but you and others like you have chosen to believe in an alternate universe of “facts” which is nothing more than media spin.
As we’ve patiently explained here before, you can’t lie about that which you believe to be true. Inarguably the whole weight of various intelligence organizations from our own to the UN’s to the Israelis to the Europeans including that of Great Britain and even Syrian and Turkey intelligence agencies believed Saddam still had stockpiles of biological and chemical WMD … whatever the term “stockpiles” means any more. This was also certainly true under the Clinton Administration and the many public statements (in some cases, before Bush was President) from Democrats themselves the five years preceeding the War in Iraq prove they too believed Saddam had WMD capability (and stockpiles) and was indeed a dangerous tyrant. Now they have to lie (knowing what they said) to try and get out from under their own responsibility in this.
Now Newsman, you show me the incontrovertible evidence that President Bush had in hand intelligence that PROVED Saddam had no WMD or that he was complying with UNSCOM investigations which he then ignored and then “cherrypicked” intelligence sources in order to deceive the U.S. Congress who authorized him to go to war (see link to Joint Congressional Resolution above). And please don’t go down the road that one can’t prove a something doesn’t exist, UN resolutions were quite specific about how Saddam could prove he divested himself of WMD but he simply wouldn’t comply.
BTW, it’s an outright lie to claim Bush deceived those in Congress when those who sit on the Senate Intelligence Committee have the same access to intelligence information as does POTUS on these matters. The fact many Congresspersons with the proper security clearances took the lazy man’s way and chose not to look at the intelligence themselves and then blame Bush for “lying” to them or “cherrypicking” the intelligence that was available to them is truly reprehensible. And what President Bush chose to share with the general public wasn’t a matter of cherrypicking but something which all Presidents do on just about any topic of concern, they collate and edit their remarks. Maybe that was wrong in this case, but the overwhelming “evidence” of that day from both sides of the aisle was Saddam had ‘em and never proved he had gotten rid of them.
So you continuing with your disgusting “Bush lied” meme is itself a lie. Was President Bush a victim of bad intelligence? Yes, but no intelligence assessment is perfect that’s why its called an intelligence assessment, but Bush didn’t “lie” about what he was being told from not only our intelligence community but those of other nations including the UN itself which believed Saddam still had WMD stockpiles.
Yeah, there was those within the intelligence community who were not yet convinced beyond a shadow of doubt that Saddam had WMD (even though Saddam himself believed he had them while denying he had them … it turns out his own scientists were deceiving him as to his own WMD capabilities - oh, how the worm turns), but they never presented credible evidence that Saddam had truly divested himself of those WMD that he most definitely had in the years preceeding the Desert Storm II.
What you’re asking is for President Bush to be omnisicient like God and to have ignored the vast majority of the intelligence community to listen to those who represented a very small fraction of those voices opining about the lack of WMD evidence. Also, if one is intellectually honest, after reading the October 2002 Joint Congressional Resolution there were other reasons for taking out Saddam’s regime, not the least of these is the fact that Saddam’s regime fired hundreds if not thousands of times upon Coalition aircraft in the No-fly Zone in direct violation of the articles of the 1991 Iraq Peace Treaty. This in themselves constitutes acts of war. Despite your anti-Bush derangement, it just wasn’t WMD that took us to Iraq but the very real fact that Saddam’s regime was engaging in unlawful international acts of war, was known to have WMD, would not allow UNSCOM unfettered access to his various arms depots to verify he had no active WMD, most definitely had dual-purpose programs in place that could ramp up WMD production, had active and illegal missile programs in operation that could deliver WMD, was known to be favorable to international Islamic terrorists, etc … read the JCR, it’s all there.
Of course if we had done things YOUR way, Mr. 20-20 hindsight, Saddam would still be an active tyrant terrorizing his own people with his death squads, rape rooms, and all the nasty things blood-thirsty dictators tend to do. But I guess you think reality is preferable to a world without Saddam.
697 ChuckTX // Dec 10, 2008 at 10:43 am
Hey guys, if you need a temporary fix to your Scrappleface withdrawal, try The Picwit Pucayune at http://picwit.blogspot.com/
I call it a disease free alternative to The Pnion - It’s news satire and parody that’s family friendly funny. Let me know what you think.
698 ChuckTX // Dec 10, 2008 at 10:44 am
I mean, The Onion
699 Darthmeister // Dec 10, 2008 at 12:31 pm
ATTENTION ALL SCRAPPLE OLD-TIMERS … and you young’uns, too.
Here’s something to file away on your favorites list: 106 Years of “Popular Mechanics”.
Way cool. You can browse the various issues going waaaaaaay back.
700 NeaL // Dec 10, 2008 at 1:47 pm
Are we trying for 1,000 comments to this post by the inauguration?
Did anyone else hear about Joe the Plumber’s comments about McCain and Palin on Glenn Beck?
http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/19055/
Awesome.
701 mig // Dec 10, 2008 at 1:53 pm
A pal of mine who was out in Iraq and Afghanistan a couple of years ago came down with a nasty throat infection. On seeking medical treatment, he was told that 25% of all particles in the Kabul fresh air are human fecal matter.
FYI
702 Godfrey // Dec 10, 2008 at 2:07 pm
Hawkeye: #664: “Perhaps you are not aware of this, but some of us have met the man and his family “Face2Faceâ€. “
No, I wasn’t aware of that. He does seem like a nice guy, aside from his sudden propensity for cryptic remarks and long, unexplained absences.
As for reading behind the lines of his most recent post, yeah, I’ll give ya that…but Scott’s memoir better be good or I will revert to yesterday’s position of bitter hostility and disconnect. I wonder what the title will be? Perhaps we can offer some suggestions.
Hank: hello right back at’chya, ol’ buddy. Hope life is treating you well.
703 BlackLion31U // Dec 10, 2008 at 2:42 pm
“Iraq war was as much the failure of policymakers as it was the flawed intelligence”
…”A 2002 intelligence assessment pushed by the administration contended that Iraqi President Saddam Hussein had an active nuclear, chemical and biological weapons program. Fingar’s office dissented on the nuclear question.
His office “got it less wrong,” he told reporters Tuesday during a valedictory round-table discussion.
But he acknowledged that the overall analysis of Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction capabilities was wrong, and some of the underlying intelligence false. In fact, an exhaustive search turned up no nuclear, chemical or biological weapons or any evidence there was an active program to develop it.
Part of the blame goes to time pressure, Fingar said: The Bush administration ordered the report to be produced in less than two weeks. Similar intelligence estimates can take months or years.
“It’s my observation that it’s very hard to dislodge a mistaken interpretation once it gets into the head of a decisionmaker who has used it in a speech, built it into a policy, conveyed it to colleagues around the world,” Fingar said. “That puts to me an awfully high premium on taking the time to get it right.”…
http://www.politicalbase.com/news/official-iraq-war-was-both-intel-policy-failure/159955/
704 mindknumbed kid // Dec 10, 2008 at 2:50 pm
Are you guys trying to tell us that he really does exist?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woJqngwB6EA
705 Newsman // Dec 10, 2008 at 3:57 pm
Hey Darth:
I never said that “President Bush had in hand intelligence that PROVED Saddam had no WMD ”
I said there were no WMD’s ever seen or proven to exist. Beside’s even if there were they were of no threat to the Continental US.
Iraq was/is about oil and a few other factors worked in there.
At one point Bush referred to Saddam as being so evil that he deserved to be taken down. Well, there are and have been mnay other dictators that would make Saddam look like a piker and nobody in the White House of either party lifted a finger.
I can’t help but think of Cambodia and Pol Pot and did anyone lift an index finger ? No, because there was no economic gain to be had ! And that is the reality of how it all works.
Recall we used that Panamanian Dictator for quite awhile for our own selfish gain. We knew he was dealing in drugs, etc. Then when we had no use for him anymore we went after him and dragged him to the US to be tried and imprisoned.
Republican and Democratic Presidents all work the same way. They all come up with some garbage to justify their positions !
In regard to Bush and Iraq, it is my view that Bush entered Office with the full intent to invade Iraq for whatever reason.
So what happens in real life, especially at that level is that the flunkies work real hard to create what the Boss implies he wants. In Washington Arse Bussing is a fine art to the nth degree.
I worked most of my life for DoD. The big boss would occasionally come by my desk and make a statement about something. He never specifically told me to do such and such, but I knew what he wanted, and if I could see my way to legally do it, I would do it.
People at certain levels are past masters at letting you know what they want you to accomplish. They say it in such a way that you cane never really factually say, “So and so told me to do this or that”
It works the same way in private industry and if you are honest you will acknowledge that. Politicians happen to have developed that skill to a very high level except of course for schmucks like the Governor of Illinois and a few others.
706 Newsman // Dec 10, 2008 at 4:05 pm
BY the way Darth, what are we doing now about that dictator in Zimbabwe ?
NOTHING ! Because there is no direct economic gain !
We talk talk and babble babble, but we do not lift an eyebrow never mind a finger. Now if Zimbabwe had the oil reserves that Iraq has, do you really think we would ignore what is going on there ?
Be realistic !
707 BlackLion31U // Dec 10, 2008 at 5:31 pm
Newsman,
The link on #703 tends to support you accusations.
708 Fred Sinclair // Dec 10, 2008 at 5:51 pm
I see tht there are still Scrapplers busy “trolling”. I find the reference to WMD’s interesting though. There actually some who believe the WMD’s didn’t exist.
Instead of multi millions in rewards for the capture of Obama bin Biden….er…duh…er….I mean Osama bin Laden. More reward money should be made available for Syrian informants. The last one strangely enough the MSM somehow managed to “miss”. He told of how some two or three months prior to the start of the Iraqi War, he was part of a convoy (one of many) who transported WMD’s across the border and they were buried.
So the WMD were real but Americans were looking for them in the wrong place and Syria wasn’t about to allow the US Military into their country to try and locate them.
With substantial rewards being offered, I’d bet there are many Syrian’s who could give intel about the location of those caches.
So in my humble opinion, inspectors looking in Iraq for WMD’s and finding none, had nothing to do with whether or not they did or didn’t exist.
Personally I believe they still exist awaiting future discovery.
Treason doeth never prosper, what’s the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it treason.†- John Harington
709 mindknumbed kid // Dec 10, 2008 at 7:43 pm
So on the day we pull completely out of Iraq the current POTUS can sign a statement that would give Saddam Hussein 30 days to reclaim his position as President of Iraq.
710 Hawkeye // Dec 10, 2008 at 8:50 pm
New cryptic message from Scott at Twitter…
“Pondering the meaning of Life…specifically cinnamon.”
Or, read if for yourself HERE.
wv = luminous skull — WEIRD!
711 Newsman // Dec 10, 2008 at 9:11 pm
“So on the day we pull completely out of Iraq the current POTUS can sign a statement that would give Saddam Hussein 30 days to reclaim his position as President of Iraq.”
Hmmmmmmmmm???? There is only one man that I ever heard of that was alleged to have come back from the dead. And his name did not start with an ‘S’
712 mindknumbed kid // Dec 10, 2008 at 9:11 pm
Does anyone remember 9/11? Daniel Perl (sp?)? The past week in India?
Headline:
Obama hopes to reboot US image among Muslims (AP)
The Jihadists don’t give a hoot about other Muslims liking us, they plan to defeat us and institute Sharia Law in our country. They desire to bring the whole earth into submission to Allah, and that through any means.
America lacks the wisdom necessary to survive what is coming our way. Our image isn’t going to make much of a difference as far as our future is concerned, but our vigilance and preparedness will keep us free.
When the godless are bowing to Allah and the saints are being slaughtered for Christ, will they finally understand the threat? Ignorance is the veil that allows us to keep moving closer and closer to death as a nation, while we wring our hands about “our image”. In our early years the appeasers paid a monetary tribute for “peace”, in the future the appeasers will pay a spiritual tribute, are you prepared to make your decision when the time comes? What will it be for you, life if you will bow to their god, or will you stand in the face of death for your principles (e.g.- freedom of religion), or for your faith in Christ?
You might want to think it out ahead of time, in the spur of the moment decisions tend to be fraught with mistakes.
713 Newsman // Dec 10, 2008 at 9:16 pm
Those jihadists can make all the plans they want, they will never take over this country ! We are very fortunate that we have two huge oceans as a formidable barrier.
And they are not going to do it from the inside either.
We are fine as long as we our Homeland Security and all the other agencies involved in protecting our homeland do their job !
714 mindknumbed kid // Dec 10, 2008 at 9:25 pm
I’ve heard that cinnamon can lower your blood sugar level…
I put cinnamon in my home made maple syrup, I call it Cinnayum Maple Syrup w/ Butter.
Outside of Christ, I see no real purpose for life. You might be living for fame, riches, or even the cinnamon in Cinnamon Toast Crunchâ„¢. No one can maintain this life on earth forever. Whatever you are living it for will eventually have no meaning, unless you are living it for Christ…
715 mindknumbed kid // Dec 10, 2008 at 9:34 pm
Keep on drinking the Evian Mr. newsman, it can happen. I don’t know that it will or will not, but the audacity of hoping that they will one day like us and that it will make one bit of difference is absurd, people who are worried about our image have their heads stuck in a very disgusting place. With their heads stuck there they might not be as vigilant as they need to be.
716 mindknumbed kid // Dec 10, 2008 at 9:38 pm
Homeland Security…
Anyone ever caution you about placing your trust in man?
Not wise.
717 mindknumbed kid // Dec 10, 2008 at 9:51 pm
Is it possible for a handful of nice young Muslim men to get their hands on some Uranium from maybe our friends in Iran. To make a few suitcase bombs, end up in Mexico, enter into the US without being detected and find themselves in several of our major cities? Could Usama bin Laden call our President and inform him of the fact that we have been infiltrated and if we do not surrender to him, we are going to blow? We decide to call his bluff and Houston ceases to exist… is it possible that could happen?
Is it?
718 Newsman // Dec 10, 2008 at 10:10 pm
MKK - We are more apt to be hit by a meteor then to get a call from bin Laden such as you suggest.
A suitcase bomb of some kind could very well come in via Mexico or Canada.
It would be pretty easy in this country to blow up a lot of bombs if you are willing to sacrifice your life.
However it seems somebody must be doing something right these past few years since 9/11.
Not implying we should relax as we can’t do that !
719 onlineanalyst // Dec 10, 2008 at 10:14 pm
Let’s face it: Scott has been renditioned to an Obama reeducation camp, where he is being flayed with rubber hoses and forced to listen to Obama campaign slogans at high volume until until our wordmeister repents for writing satire about PEBHO.
BTW Iowahawk has an absolutely hilarious post of Gov. Blago flogging a senate seat on E-Bay. Like Blago’s language, the phrasing is not exactly family friendly.
Don’t you all find “newsman” to be “a distraction”?
He (?) is merely a tool sent by THE ONE’s media watchdogs to maintain the odor of sanctity about the Hepey-Changey fellow and to report any miscreants to Command Control.
Heh, WV is “Dictator” “Hearken”
720 Darthmeister // Dec 10, 2008 at 11:28 pm
What are we doing about the dictator in fill-in-the-blank?
Newsman, you’re not actually going to try and argue that if we don’t demolish EVERY tin-plated dictator we can’t dethrone ANY dictator, are ya? C’mon, you’re smarter than that … on second thought …
BTW, nice job on working in the “it’s all about oil” angle. I just knew you wouldn’t disappoint me.
Newsman, I haven’t kept up with all your self-righteous rantings here, but if by your moniker you’re actually a journalist or a journalist-wannabee, I just want to say in all honesty that I believe its partisan hacks like you in the news industry that are the problem with getting real and balanced news information to the people of this country. At this point the national socialist media is little more than the propaganda ministry for the Democratic Party … it’s even having a hard time informing the American people that Chicago is a cesspool of Democratic corruption and that Governor Blago is a DEMOCRAT! Pathetic.
SNOW SURPRISE IN HOUSTON
More evidence of global warming even though it has only snowed in Houston in by December 10th one other time in the last 113 years!
UN claims man-made global warming ‘proved beyond a doubt’…
Thus spaketh the UN … and thus it was so. Who are we to contradict UN climate “experts”, right? The UN also said Saddam had WMD, hence the need for UNSCOM in the first place.
Blowback: More Than 650 Scientists Dissent Over Warming Claims…
All deniers on par with Holocaust deniers (thought I’d make that “argument” before Newsman did). These aren’t real scientists since they are all getting secret money from EXXON/Halliburton/Cheney/Satan. And since they aren’t getting a cut of the Global Warming gravey train they’re only a bunch of sour grapers anyway, right?
721 Fred Sinclair // Dec 10, 2008 at 11:31 pm
If you drop a frog in boiling water he will leap right out. If you slowly heat the water he will be content until it’s too late to get out. That is exactly how history works. It moves slowly and we never really see any danger until it’s too late.
Remember how suppressed workers were before unions came along? The unions leveled the playing field. Unfortunately, over a long period of time the pendulum swung too far. Slowly, businesses and factories closed and jobs left the country.
World War II, and the Korean War, demonstrated how powerful a united nation could be.
We were good at fighting a hot war but we were unprepared to fight a cold war with the communists in the 50’s. Their philosophy was to wait it out and capture the minds of our children. They loaded our colleges with many of their professors and waited. It didn’t take long to see the results.
The 60′’s ushered in the radicals, drug culture, student protesters, and the Vietnam War. The aim of the cold war was to divide and conquer.
The media, and Hollywood , hammered us with hate America themes and stories. Our service men, and women, were jeered, cursed, and spit on.
The Reverend King, who was raised in the old school, peacefully changed the race issue and united the people. When he died the new breed of leaders like the Jesse Jackson’s, Lewis Farakon’s, Al Sharpton’s, and Rev. Wright’s put a lid on his efforts and turned racism into a money making machine.
Corporations were green-mailed by threats of protests, product boycotts, or endless lawsuits. Every issue, large or small, became a race issue.
Even politicians buckled under to the pressure. The Florida legislature issued a formal apology for having slavery 200 years ago.
They divided our nation into two separate Americas . We now have Americans, and African-Americans, although Africa has nothing to do with being an American.
This election year could be the turning point in our history because the frog theory has come into play.
George McGovern was the first Presidential candidate to test the waters with college students. The Clinton’s played a big role in his campaign.
Step two was to infiltrate all the information vehicles such as radio, newspapers, magazines, TV and movies.
The big benefit of the Carter years is that they were followed by the Reagan years. The nation got a clear look at the difference between a weak nation and a strong nation.
Clinton took over Carters’ uncompleted social programs.
By the end of his term the left had captured a large share of the media and it flexed its muscle in 2000.
There were endless stories about our evil nation and its President. Top-secret plans were leaked to the press and printed for the entire world to see.
They now have the perfect candidate because they can squash criticism by playing the race card. If you don’t like Obama, or criticize him, you are a racist.
The only thing we really know about Obama is that his wife has never been proud to be an American. They want us to believe that his liberal college professors, Rev. Pfleger, his ties to radicals Bill Ayer and Lewis Farakon, and listening to the Rev. Wright’s hate talks for 20 years, had no influence on his thinking.
The change being promoted is a change back to the Carter years.
Returning to the Carter years of high taxes, high inflation, and a weak military is not the change we are looking for.
The old sage’s (over 50) should have played a bigger role in this election. The young people simply don’t know what the aged know. The advantage of aging is the knowledge you accumulated. You know what United States means. You know what the seldom-heard word respect means. You know how wonderful freedom and independence is. You know the difference between a strong and a weak nation; and you know what it takes to keep it strong. You know history because you have lived it.
Now, barring an overturn of this ‘election’; based on the usurper’s refusal to prove his Constitutionally required level of Citizenship (looking less and less likely) we are forced to bear the consequences of the rash mesmerization of our country’s youth (under 30) I see the resistance of the Obamanazation of America as a course lined with perils akin to that undergone by the “founding fathers” of our nation. They put it ALL on the line in resisting Britain’s home rule over these colonies we today call “The United States of America”. Can we in good conscious, dare to do less?
A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to ‘America for an amount of ‘ up to and including my life.’ That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.
Treason doeth never prosper, what?s the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it treason.? - John Harington
722 Darthmeister // Dec 10, 2008 at 11:46 pm
BTW, Newsman, I think that proverbial meteor hit New York on 9/11 … or did you forget. Or are you going to try and claim OBL didn’t mastermind 9/11 and it was really an inside job?
Maybe you should have “argued” more along the lines that “lightning never strikes twice” with regard to jihadism. I hope it never happens, but with people like you around America will definitely get another wake up call again within the next decade and what then? Blame it on Bush?
To date at least 19 jihadist attempts on Americans have been thwarted
Here are some books which document the dangers of jihadism if we become less proactive and vigilant and here is a list of terrorist attacks against Americans, American embassies and American military assets.
Get an education and then maybe you can start appreciating the world the way it really is and not the way you wish it were. I also don’t believe Muslim fanaticism will ever “take over America” (that isn’t the real debate, BTW, but I’ll play along anyway), at least not by force as long as Second Amendment conservatives have anything to say about it. However, I wouldn’t put it pass the liberals in this country to, in the interest of “multi-culturalism”, recognize Muslim sharia law at some level or to somehow reconcile itself to the religious social pecularities of Islam and the Quran. Latent dhimmies all.
723 mindknumbed kid // Dec 10, 2008 at 11:52 pm
America takes for granted God’s protective hand. She thinks she can do as she pleases without fear. I don’t know the likelihood of such a scenario as I put forth taking place, but I do know that God is in control of everything at all times. Any nation that honors God will have blessings upon them. There are vessels of honor and also vessels of dishonor, as a nation how will we know when we cross the line from blessing to curse, seeing as we refuse to hear? His Holy Spirit will tell the believers when the nation is in jeopardy, but the unbelieving will not have a clue.
The destruction of any nation is hardly an impossibility for God, America is no different, and should he choose to do it, government agencies cannot thwart it.
I believe it is time to take our eyes off of what man is up to, (not completely) and watch for what God is doing. In the end the ruler of all is Christ.
His door is always open should you desire to stop in for a visit. Knowing him is better than being POTUS, or having a bundle of money.
ps - Speaking of money, I just saw gasoline for $1.279!
724 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 11, 2008 at 1:31 am
Even a cursory peep into history will reveal that anything can happen at any time and that those who were not prepared [whether by choice or by chance] suffered heavy consequences.
I’m not making that up.
725 Fred Sinclair // Dec 11, 2008 at 7:40 am
Who Is This American Warrior?
American Warrior.
oldbluejacket.com/americanwarrior.htm • Found on Google, Windows Live, Ask.com
Needs no comment from me. - Heirborn Ranger
726 Fred Sinclair // Dec 11, 2008 at 7:44 am
Oops it didn’t post as a clickable link, but it will cut and paste and is well worth it. I’ve watched it several times and will do so many times more (it’s that good - really).
727 Newsman // Dec 11, 2008 at 12:35 pm
“Maybe you should have “argued†more along the lines that “lightning never strikes twice†with regard to jihadism. I hope it never happens, but with people like you around America will definitely get another wake up call again within the next decade and what then? Blame it on Bush?”
C’mon Darth, what do you mean by “people like you” ?
We may differ in which political party philosophy we believe in, but when it comes to the security that tries to protect this country from terrorist acts by insiders or outsiders I have the same concern as most all of you here do !
I am not soft on Muslim terrorists ! It’s undemocratic, but when a terrorist is caught I would just soon they blow him or her away on the spot and save ourselves a lot of grief !
I am not as soft as you apparently perceive me !
728 DrLumplevin // Dec 11, 2008 at 12:37 pm
ON BARNEY FRANK, FANNIE MAE, AND FANNIES.
“There is simply something ethereally orgasmic about watching the previous kingpins of our capitalist system lining up, quivering and cowering, to see Reps. Barney Frank and Nancy Pelosi, as if they were two glorious dominatrixes all dressed in leather, studs and fearful whips in hand, sitting imperiously upon their regal dais, looking down scornfully upon the once-great captains of American industry and finance, who now grovel with their pitiful, beaten, hang-dog looks, tremulously shaking their awful, pathetic, little, tin cups. Has there ever been something so delectibly ironic?”
729 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 11, 2008 at 6:29 pm
The Circus from Hell. Now playing, “Right here on our stage.”
With a cast of thousands of Anarchic Clowns in a big pile, squirming with a frenzy, groping for a piece of the inedible pie.
730 mig // Dec 11, 2008 at 6:35 pm
OLA-
Don’t you just scroll passed the trolls? I don’t even read their messages. Move right along.
Ernesto “Che” Guevara, the revolutionary who helped found communist Cuba, is the celebrity that celebrities adore.
Killer Chic is written and produced by Ted Balaker. Director of Photography is Alex Manning.
sudden Che- Isn’t that amazing!
731 mindknumbed kid // Dec 11, 2008 at 8:24 pm
From #718 -
“It would be pretty easy in this country to blow up a lot of bombs if you are willing to sacrifice your life.”
Suicide bomber kills 55 in packed Iraq restaurant (AP)
It appears as though there is never a shortage of people who are willing…
732 mindknumbed kid // Dec 11, 2008 at 9:00 pm
The Reverend Jeremiah Wright returned to the pulpit yesterday reaffirming that he truly is and will forever be, the Reverend Wrong.
Actions have consequences, when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor it caused the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, yes we nuked a lot of “innocent” civilians, but we would never have in a million years dropped those bombs if we had not been attacked. The left bemoans the number of casualties in Iraq, ignoring the fact that we lost more men in one day during WWII. Our reaction to their actions ended the war, it saved lives, and it brought about peace through intimidation. The “blame America first crowd” is disrespectful to our fallen heroes in that war, and can hardly be considered patriots. Their consciences are only guilt ridden because they only see one perspective and they focus all of their energy on that erroneous view until they can no longer think rationally. It is a shame that there isn’t a way to put them in the shoes of a WWII soldier for a few days, or the shoes of the ones that had the job of giving the news to the families of soldiers killed in action day after day, they would never accuse this country of any such thing again.
Then again, maybe it isn’t perspective as much as it is an agenda. Lord, have mercy on us.
733 mindknumbed kid // Dec 11, 2008 at 9:16 pm
I work 11-12 hours a day, in and out of my truck (out way more than in, I drove all of 25 miles today, up from 18 yesterday) and I manage to only hear bits and pieces of things on the radio throughout the day. By the time I am done, I am tired and most of the things I have heard are buried in my subconscious mind when I come home.
I sat down and checked my email, then checked this thread for new comments to maybe stimulate some brain activity…not much here today, today I just sat here “mind numbed” for a few minutes trying to think, trying to find something inside of myself. Tonight I almost gave up, almost nothing to find as I regurgitated the day in my head. Then there it was, that little snippet about Rev. Wright’s “sermon” and a few moments thinking about what I had heard.
That is pretty much my life in a nutshell, I enjoy sitting down and looking through what has passed through my mind throughout my days and pondering them. Anyone else do anything similar to that? I’m just curious…
734 mindknumbed kid // Dec 11, 2008 at 9:53 pm
Ms RightWing, Ink - Are you lurking out there? Is everything alright in your lil’ corner of the world? I am wondering about Christmas this year, will Aunt Sarah and Uncle Willy be dropping by to share the holiday with ya? Seems like it has been a while since you have seen them, hope everyone is still doing well.
735 mindknumbed kid // Dec 11, 2008 at 10:00 pm
How’s your global warming up yonder upnorthlurkin’? It’s supposed to be down in negative temps here over the weekend, I believe I will get a personal heater for my PC to prevent it from freezing up on me. Reckon it will be a White Christmas?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h0otRDNjG4
736 ChuckTX // Dec 11, 2008 at 10:38 pm
The Picwit Picayune
Updated every day - and sometimes even every other day.
http://picwit.blogspot.com/
737 BlackLion31U // Dec 12, 2008 at 9:39 am
“Can we continue to listen to Rush Limbaugh?” Powell asked. “Is this really the kind of party that we want to be when these kinds of spokespersons seem to appeal to our lesser instincts rather than our better instincts?”
738 NeaL // Dec 12, 2008 at 9:44 am
Re: mindnumbedkid #716
“Anyone ever caution you about placing your trust in man?”
True. That’s why I place my trust in women. Namely, Sarah Palin. Oh, and my wife too.
739 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 12, 2008 at 10:36 am
An interesting topic for study, don’t you think?
“Our Instincts: Lesser versus Better”
740 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 12, 2008 at 11:24 am
“…..Powell himself represent[s] our lesser instincts.”
Colin displays no Conservative characteristics whatsoever.
741 BlackLion31U // Dec 12, 2008 at 1:01 pm
It would appear that there are very few politicians that maintain “Conservative characteristics”. Or maybe it is that “Conservative characteristics” only means thou shalt not criticize one of your own.
Rev. Richard Cizik an outspoken and polarizing voice in conservative Christian politics apparently has expressed views which conflict. Should he to be considered a fake conservative?
742 BlackLion31U // Dec 12, 2008 at 1:56 pm
Is the bible was literally true?
President Bush: “You know. Probably not. … No, I’m not a literalist, but I think you can learn a lot from it, but I do think that the New Testament for example is … has got … You know, the important lesson is ‘God sent a sonâ€
Do you pray to the same God as those with different religious beliefs?
President Bush: “I do believe there is an almighty that is broad and big enough and loving enough that can encompass a lot of peopleâ€
Asked about creation and evolution.
President Bush: “I think you can have both. I think evolution can — you’re getting me way out of my lane here. I’m just a simple president. But it’s, I think that God created the earth, created the world; I think the creation of the world is so mysterious it requires something as large as an almighty and I don’t think it’s incompatible with the scientific proof that there is evolutionâ€
It would appear that even George W. Bush isn’t even a Conservative Christian and of course we all know by now he hasn’t maintained “Conservative characteristics†right?
743 gafisher // Dec 12, 2008 at 4:02 pm
Old news, BL31U Re#742. Some of the comments were taken out of context, but in sum and considering some of the President’s past comments, I would never vote for him to be my Pastor.
744 BlackLion31U // Dec 12, 2008 at 5:49 pm
LOL, I don’t think I would either, but then I can’t think of any time that I would vote for him. I do surprisingly seem to agree with his take on evolution.
745 mig // Dec 12, 2008 at 8:05 pm
But while corruption is a problem we all share, …it is a crisis-a crisis that’s robbing an honest people of the opportunities they have fought for-the opportunity they deserve. . . .
We know that the temptation to take a bribe is greater when you’re not making enough on the job. And we also know that the more people there are on the government payroll, the more likely it is that someone will be encouraged to take a bribe. So if the government found ways to downsize the bureaucracy-to cut out the positions that aren’t necessary or useful-it could use the extra money to increase the salary of other government officials.
Of course, the best way to reduce bureaucracy and increase pay is to create more private sector jobs. - Obama
746 mindknumbed kid // Dec 12, 2008 at 8:08 pm
I evolved from an embryo!
747 onlineanalyst // Dec 12, 2008 at 8:12 pm
The latest game in PEBHO’s smoke-filled transition headquarters, spreading in popularity from the Chicago environs to the Washington axis is “Where’s Rahm-bo?”
Tiny Dancer was last seen vigorously applauding and calling for repeated encores at his children’s concert until he felt that it was safe to leave the building. Cameras, microphones, and distracting questions would spoil the festive holiday mood post- performance.
Another scenario is that he and Candidates #1,#2,#3,#4,and #5 are role playing along with Advisor A and Advisor B as they all coordinate their covers/memories. (PEBHO says that this effort will take several days.)
First, though, the role players will try to guess if there is enough detail in the transcripts to identify them. Then by taking turns in these various roles and that of the prosecutor Fitz, they practice responses to the most incriminating charges against them. They use for a script the released wiretap transcripts in order to guide their defenses. Rahm-bo generates an air of tension to create an atmosphere of intense Fed interrogation by repeatedly stabbing a steak knife into the table. The weakest player gets a dead fish as a thanks-for-playing prize.
(Scratch that scenario above. Candidate #1 took herself out of the contention, having secured herself a sinecure in the White House. It’s amazing what being a manager of public-housing slums financed through Rezko can do for the ambitious, Jarrett claims.)
Blago promises to sing to the Feds if they will accept his promise to deliver the super-secret valuted PEBHO birth certificate in exchange for a gentle cell mate. (He’ been roughed up enough by Patti Pottymouth and her dad.
Merry Fitzmas and little pink supoenas to y’all!
748 mindknumbed kid // Dec 12, 2008 at 8:46 pm
Q:Why are they so anxious to throw Gov. Blago overboard?
A: They are scared to death that this fiasco will lead to Obama’s door. Or taint him too much.
It appears as though Chicago politics will never change, corruption begets corruption. The quest for power and position seems to have trumped ethics and character. Is this what we can expect for the next four years?
749 mindknumbed kid // Dec 12, 2008 at 8:50 pm
Interesting look at Al Gore over at America’s Right blog.
http://www.americasright.com/
750 Darthmeister // Dec 12, 2008 at 9:51 pm
From Randal Hoven quest posting at American Thinker. He also lays out the “weak argument” and “strong argument” for what may be meant by being “natural born.” He’s pretty even-handed but has the following to say about the nimrods who have told those of us with honest questions to “shut up”. And it’s rather pathetic how purported conservatives like Horowitz and Malkin (I only expected this kind of behavior from Obama disciples) have resorted to shouting us down and engaging in shameless ad hominems because we dare air very legitimate questions about Mr. Obama’s obfuscations on this matter.
Horowitz, Malkin, Snopes, FactCheck, FightTheSmears, et al are still wrong about almost everything in this case, and way too snarky. Many, especially in the media, not only misreported and made up facts, but demonstrated an arrogance of opinion that is unprofessional and indicative of how politicians have been able to be so corrupt. Instead of asking Obama the question and challenging “power,” smug reporters chose instead to berate those who would hold “power” accountable.
But in the end, this is not a Constitutional crisis. It amounts to a Congressional statute that could use some clearing up. It would have been nice if any of these folks had used true explanation of the law, rather than ad hominems and invective, to make their cases.
My explanation could also shed light on why Obama seems so shady about the issue. He knows there are genuine legal issues about his qualification to be President. What are Americans to expect about how transparent the Obama administration will really be?
My observation: It’s rather hypocritical for Obamatons to keep honest dissenters from “speaking truth to power” about this issue when that’s all the liberals have been doing the last seven years (purportedly “speaking truth to power”) in their thinly-disguised and feral hatefest of President Bush.
In the final analysis, I agree with Mr. Hoven. I believe this is an important constitutional question that must be addressed as well as Obama’s lack of candor and transparency on this issue, but it need not degenerate into a full-blown Constitutional crisis. Mr. Obama and is handlers have badly mismanaged this whole affair since the day a bogus “birth certificate” showed up on his official website and it is they who should bear the full responsibility for this rancor that is a direct result of Mr. Obama’s total lack of transparency and rebuffing reasonable requests for him to provide a certified copy of his vault birth certificate showing the name of the hospital and the doctor who delivered him, something John McCain did when asked.
751 Darthmeister // Dec 12, 2008 at 9:59 pm
but when a terrorist is caught I would just soon they blow him or her away on the spot and save ourselves a lot of grief !
Wow! One more thing we actually agree upon. So you really don’t believe one man’s Muslim terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter?
Just asking?
Out of curiosity. Do you believe Muslim terrorists should be treated like common American criminals and tried in American civilian/federal courts, or should they be treated like the illegal enemy combatants that they are before a military tribunal?
752 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 13, 2008 at 4:44 am
I would like to be one of the first to call for impeachment.
Thank you
753 Hawkeye // Dec 13, 2008 at 10:13 am
Darth #750,
The following is from the Natural Born Citizen blog. I have bolded certain passages for emphasis…
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Despite popular belief, the 14th Amendment does not convey the status of “natural born Citizen†in its text. It just conveys the status of “Citizenâ€. And it’s very clear that in the pre-amendment Constitution, the Framers made a distinction between a “Citizen†and a “natural born Citizenâ€. The requirement to be a Senator or Representative is “Citizenâ€, but the requirement to be President is “natural born Citizenâ€.
From the 14th Amendment:
“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and the State wherein they reside.â€
But even as to this conveyance of citizenship, those who were responsible for drafting the 14th Amendment made it clear that - to them - the meaning of “subject to the jurisdiction thereof†meant subject only to the jurisdiction thereof.
Dr. John Fonte, Senior Fellow of The Hudson Institute had this to say about the issue at a Congressional hearing on dual citizenship from September 29, 2005:
This illustrates that Congress recently discussed the issue, and they can’t claim they were unaware. But we don’t have to take Dr. Fonte’s word for it. The following discussion by the various 14th Amendment Framers took place on the Senate floor. I took it from P.A. Madison’s research at http://www.14thamendment.us (use his link for footnotes):
Then Madison quotes Sen. Howard, another Framer, concurring with Trumbull:
Mr. Madison continues with even more proof of what the 14th Amendment Framers meant:
Madison saves for last the greatest authority on the issue:
It’s important to note this statement was issued by Bingham only months before the 14th Amendment was proposed.
* * * * * * *
The article then goes on to talk about a case where Justice Scalia made reference to a certain legal textbook in March, 2008. The footnote for the textbook reads in part…
In that textbook, originally published in 1758, is the following discussion…
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Seems pretty darn clear to me. I don’t know why the brilliant minds at SCOTUS can’t figure it out.
754 Darthmeister // Dec 13, 2008 at 1:44 pm
Democratic Sen. Christopher Dodd, chairman of the Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs, suggested on CBS’ “Face the Nation†that Rick Wagoner, the chief executive of GM, “has to move on.â€
Where does Dodd get the temerity to make such a proposition in light of his own incompetence and scandal? Dodd is in charge of the committee that could have kept America from entering the current credit crisis. He’s the same man who is in charge of regulating Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and is No. 1 on their list of donations. . . .
Dodd also received preferential loans from Countrywide Mortgage Bank, and then said he wasn’t aware that he was getting a “special†deal. How is that possible?
The bottom line is that Dodd received special treatment from a company that he was in charge of regulating and to this day he has refused to release details of those transactions. If Dodd has done no wrong, then why not release the documents and dispel the accusations?
Why? Because he’s a Democrat and the national socialist media will shill for this guy until it becomes so obvious he’s crooked that they’ll have to throw him under the bus. It’s just like how the liberal media turned a blind eye to Democrat Governor Blago of Illinois the last four years even though serious corruption charges were being levied against him in 2004.
755 Darthmeister // Dec 13, 2008 at 2:04 pm
Outstanding analysis, Hawkeye, but I need to disabuse you of one notion in particular … liberals don’t care one whit about inconvenient facts or history. Their most primal instinct is a particularly pernicious desire to remake the whole universe over into their own image and understanding so as to be able to erect their house of cards - all other facts and opinions be damned. As far as they are concerned any opinions issued before their own date of birth are anachronistic, even if its the mainstream opinion of the American founders or the original author of a law or amendment. And to add injury to insult, they then demand we live in their fantasy world, too!
Ergo, in their world it really doesn’t matter what “natural born” means and it also doesn’t matter one whit to them that Barry Obama has been anything but transparent about his actual birth status.
Again, if Barry is truly “natural born” then why didn’t he simply release a year ago, when the question first came up, a certified copy of his vault birth record that Hawaiian officials have publicy stated existed? Something is rotten in Denmark … and in Illinois.
756 Hawkeye // Dec 13, 2008 at 4:58 pm
Darth #755,
Good comments all. However, I just want to clarify that the analysis in my comment #753 was not my own. It was posted by blogger naturalborncitizen at the Natural Born Citizen blog who I understand to be Leo C. Donofrio (blog proprietor).
As you may recall, Donofrio was the one who’s own case was denied a hearing by SCOTUS last week. He helped Cort Wrotnowski on the case which is currently before the High Court.
BTW, something is rotten in Hawaii too!
757 everthink // Dec 13, 2008 at 5:38 pm
Yeah, and while we’re at it, I say, let’s get a paternity test for the current moron in the White House!
ET
758 mindknumbed kid // Dec 13, 2008 at 6:40 pm
The current president is not old enough to have fathered the president elect…
759 RepublicanAttackMachine // Dec 13, 2008 at 6:41 pm
Blacklion re#742, I was surprized to hear these comments from GWB also. I would still rather have his moral judgements on things like stem cell research, abortion, and gay marriage than those of Obama though.
Speaking of Obama, he said he was going to have an “open and transparent” administration. Is it possible, no one told his chief of staff Rahm Emanuel, and that is why he is shoving reporters recorders out of face when asked questions about Obama and the “soon to be” ex Illinois Gov?
I was told by an Obama supporter, (not from here, a live one), that I need to shut up, and I was a moron because Obama was NOT even in office yet. I had to point out to him that Obama WAS indeed in office already, and that is the one he created called the “Office of the President Elect”!
BTW, Arnold Swarteneggar(sp) (R.I.N.O) CA wants ALL American tax payers to bail out CA. I wonder how many people realize that this bailout will help him continue the immoral social programs in full effect there?
Medical (hahahaha) pot, free programs for illegals, methadone clinics and free needles, freebies and protections for street people, (no, I will not say homeless, these people WANT to live on the street!). There are too many to list, besides if CA goes bankrupt shouldn’t their Senators and Representatives have to leave office? (This is a joke, YET, Liberals have taken jokes and made them into laws, so why not us?
Just my opinion but, even the rich in California don’t seem to smart to me. They keep rebuilding houses where they burn down, crack up in earthquakes, or slide down hills after torrential rains. I guess if you have insurance though, the OTHER insurance company’s customers will help pay for it.
I STILL want to know from Obama supporters, how giving money to the Big Three automakers, while using cars like the Volt as a reason how they will make a “come back”, but then STILL saying they, (Obama and the Democrats), will put more regulations on the coal industry, (the biggest source of electricity), is going to work. My bet is electricity will cost more than gas after Obama gets through with the coal industry.
760 RepublicanAttackMachine // Dec 13, 2008 at 6:55 pm
PS: I got this from another person. Pretty funny!
“What’s the big hurry to fill the Senate seat in Illinois? It has been vacant for the last 2+ years already!”
761 mindknumbed kid // Dec 13, 2008 at 6:59 pm
GM’s exec needs to move on, but Chrysler and Ford’s can stay? Now we know who hasn’t been greasing the wheels in DCtown enough! Instead of bailing the big three out, why not just let them print the amount of U.S. currency they need to operate? How is that any different than how the holier than thou politicians who have mismanaged the national bank account are doing? Their arrogance and condescension is nauseating! About the only viable option for the elite in DCtown is scrapping the entire financial system and replacing it with something “new and improved”. Not that I believe this mess isn’t fixable, but that we lack the resolve to do what is necessary to fix it. Meanwhile the elected officials are planning how they can tax us into prosperity. When a citizen doesn’t have the will to live within their means and continually writes checks on an over extended account, you have to take away their checkbook…
762 mindknumbed kid // Dec 13, 2008 at 7:15 pm
Affordable energy is the key to a vibrant economy. If protecting mother earth is that doggone important the least we can do is commit suicide on her behalf. We are a clean nation, even cleaner than we used to be 75 years ago and no one has any conclusive evidence that carbon is harming planet earth one bit. The All Gorey-ites are using it to achieve power, wealth, and control. The greatest threat to the planet right now is Global Ignorance and Increasing Spinelessness, life isn’t all about being popular, but these days popularity rules.
763 Fred Sinclair // Dec 13, 2008 at 7:41 pm
An excerpt from “Just Ranting” - from awhile ago, I’ve watched the video I don’t know how many times - surely twenty or more, I’d like to memorize the speech Reagan gave in 1964 at the RNC Convention for Goldwater.
What might the country be like today if Goldwater had won? I’d wager (if I were a betting man) that today there wouldn’t be a newly created “Office of the President Elect”.
“President Elect” is a misnomer since Obama cannot be the “President Elect” until he wins the Electoral College votes on the 15th and even then he will be merely “The USURPER President Elect. If sworn in on the 20th he will then be “Mr. Presidential USURPER”.
”
The economy is not yet as bad as it was in the 1930s. It is not yet as bad as it was when Jimmy Carter spent the last year and a half of his tenure cowering in a corner of the Rose Garden talking about malaise. While Barack may be more articulate the Carter I see the same lack of understanding and faith in the American people to produce solutions and a brighter future devoid of dependence on a large federal government.
I heard that 20% of conservatives voted for Barack Obama on Tuesday. I can understand why. Perhaps America needs to see just how bad things can get when Socialism takes over for a time. Higher energy prices are coming. People will be loosing their homes and jobs. Companies will close or move off-shore. Families will fall apart because women and children will look to the government to act as fathers to their children.
This is not new to America. I just watched a video of Reagan’s 1964 speech to the RNC convention. The parallels from that time to now are an amazing echo over the decades. It proves his words and vision are timeless, and America needs to return to the principles. Everyone should set a 1/2hr aside and watch this. It is truly inspiring:”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt1fYSAChxs
764 Newsman // Dec 13, 2008 at 11:42 pm
“Usurper” Now what is that supposed to mean ?
By definition usurper is defined as one who is an illegitimate or controversial claimant …
If anyone fit that definition it was GWB upon his first election.
I take you are saying that Obama stole the election.
Now if that be so, what is your factual evidence of same ? Please no rumors or phony conspiracies !
Socialism ??? C’mon, I am 75 and most of my life I have watched a degree of creeping socialism espoused equally by Republicans and Democrats.
If there were no creeping socialism, my parents and most likely your grandparents would have been eating worms if they could find any in the soil that was blowing away in the thirties !
Some people need a little help once in awhile due to curcumstances beyond their control.
Granted there are many today taking advantage. That my friend is our fault and our governments fault because neither one of us is willing to pay what it costs to hire sufficient people to be trained to clear these chiseling weasels out of the system.
There are one or two or more people on this list who are severely disabled due to conditions beyond their control. Would you deny them some assistance ? Or are you Scrouge personified ?
765 Fred Sinclair // Dec 14, 2008 at 1:02 am
St. Peter and Satan were having an argument one day about baseball. Satan proposed a game to be played on neutral grounds between a select team from the heavenly host and his own hand-picked boys.
“Very well,” said the gatekeeper of Heaven. “But you realize, I hope, that we’ve got all the good players and the best coaches.”
“I know, and that’s all right,” Satan answered unperturbed. “We’ve got all the umpires.”
766 mindknumbed kid // Dec 14, 2008 at 1:27 am
It is not a rumor, not a phony conspiracy, Barack Hussein Obama has never proven his right to be POTUS as a natural born citizen, which is very well defined in the 753rd post on this thread by Hawkeye. His steadfast refusal to verify his right to hold office as a natural born citizen is the only reason this issue remains today.
Does Mr. Obama have undivided loyalty to this country, or, as a “citizen of the world” compelled to stand for what he feels is best for all nations?
He alone is the only one who can answer the question, and he can at the very least prove his birth was on American soil. Mr. Obama has a track record of doing what is politically expedient, and not necessarily being truthful in many matters.
If it is true that he does not qualify under our constitution, then he is by definition a usurper. If a person is qualified, proving their qualifications is not unreasonable, neither is it difficult to do. Do you believe otherwise?
Obama’s involvement with cousin Odinga is enough to call to question exactly what his allegiances may be.
He just doesn’t pass the smell test on this one.
767 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 14, 2008 at 3:05 am
768 Newsman // Dec 14, 2008 at 3:57 am
Just curious mindknumbed kid, did Barack Obama do a ‘Back To The Future’ type operation to have his birth notice published in the Newspaper of the day ?
You need to do a deeper check into the many conspiracies that float thru the nether these days!
769 Newsman // Dec 14, 2008 at 4:04 am
And what’s with this ‘POTUS’ governmental gobbe-de-gook used these days. Is the nine letter word President too much for people to type out ?
Mindknumbed kid, are you are one of those who does not have a ‘garbageman’, but indeed a ’sanitation engineer’, etc.etc.
Nobody wants to call a spade a spade anymore , no pun intended. Everyone has this pressing need to elevate themselves above the common mob most of us consort with.
770 Newsman // Dec 14, 2008 at 4:07 am
“He alone is the only one who can answer the question, and he can at the very least prove his birth was on American soil.”
Hey mindknumbed kid, did you personally check the premises the instant you were born to make sure you were even on this planet ?
771 gafisher // Dec 14, 2008 at 8:10 am
“… did you personally check the premises the instant you were born to make sure you were even on this planet ?”
I did. And cried.
772 gafisher // Dec 14, 2008 at 8:42 am
Re#768: “… did Barack Obama do a ‘Back To The Future’ type operation to have his birth notice published in the Newspaper of the day ?”
The oft-cited birth notice feature is meaningless, a courtesy most home-town papers publish based simply on the information supplied to them and, unlike obits, almost never verified. The notice you cite, published in the Honolulu Sunday Advertiser well over a week after Obama’s stated birth date, gives no proof whatsoever — in fact, not so much as a hint — of where Obama was born.
As always, this could be cleared up in two hours for twelve bucks; why is Obama fighting so hard to avoid doing so?
773 gafisher // Dec 14, 2008 at 9:44 am
“Newsman” Re#764: “… By definition usurper is defined as one who is an illegitimate or controversial claimant …”
That’s a good definition and raises a good question.
There are several, perhaps quite a few, Scrapplers who are trained and / or working journalists, committed to finding and presenting unvarnished truth to the public. May I ask by what right one who wishes to obfuscate or obscure newsworthy information takes upon himself the respectable title of “Newsman?”
774 Darthmeister // Dec 14, 2008 at 9:59 am
Associated Press: “President-elect Barack Obama, relatively young and inexperienced, is facing a rapidly growing list of monumental challenges as he prepares to take the reins of a nation in turmoil.â€
Wait, I thought the media had been selling Barry Obama as “fresh and dynamic.”
Now they tell us!
775 Darthmeister // Dec 14, 2008 at 10:40 am
Please, no rumors or phony conspiracies.
Buwahahahahaha. Kinda like the pot calling the kettle black, eh, Newsman? What have the people on your side of the aisle been doing with respect to their anti-Bush derangement if it wasn’t sowing rumors or phony conspiracies the last seven years, Newsman?
We could start with the phony conspiracy theory that the Iraq war was “all about oil” and the Afghan/Taliban war was “all about putting in a natural gas pipeline.”
And let’s not forget the “9/11 was an inside job” conspiracy theory that was bred in the cesspools of left-wing Democrat bloggers.
And then we could go on with the Joe Wilson lies which your side blindly embraced that claimed the Bush Administration forged some phony document concerning the Niger Yellowcake and that Joe Wilson had “proved” (even though the Senate Select Committee on intelligence and the CIA itself disagreed with Mr. Wilson’s public analysis of his own findings) Saddam’s regime NEVER was interested or attempted to acquire Niger Yellowcake … a bold-faced lie at that. Of course Saddam was interested in acquiring more yellowcake to add his inventory and sent agents to Niger in 1998 to inquire about the availability of the product.
And how about the conspiracy theory that the Bush Administration would plant WMD in Iraq, if necessary, to bolster its case for having gone to war and desposing the tinhorn dictator Saddam?
Why don’t you pick up a copy of The Vast Left-Wing Conspiracy. Not only did liberal Democrats and the hard-core left engage in lies and conspiracies, largely funded by eccentric leftist billionaires like George Soros et al, in an attempt to undermine the Bush Administration, but virtually the whole Democratic Party is a clanking clattering collection of colliginous conspiracy kooks.
And then to accuse us of “conspiracy theories” when all we are asking is for Barry Obama to prove his bona fides vis a vis a certified copy of his vault certificate of birth? Buwahahahahaha (wiping tears away). WHAT UTTER BILGE!
BTW, the Chicago Tribune has busted Rahm Emmanual. Despite his clever denials, there are indeed tapes of Rahm speaking to Governor Blago about Obama’s Senate seat. And Obama is also treading on thin ice when he says he himself didn’t speak to Blago about his Senate seat. Why didn’t Obama simply tell the truth and say, “Of course I spoke to Blago about my seat, but the conversation had nothing to do with selling my seat to the highest bidding Democrat”. This is probably what he did when he met with Blago on November 5th according to News7, yet he now denies having ever met with Blago. Oh what a tangled web we weave when we first practice to deceive.
Also, the AP is trying to cover for Obama by claiming what he actually said about the growing scandal here in Illinois, was that nobody in his camp spoke to Blago “about selling my seat”. But if memory serves me correctly, when the news first broke nationally Obama is alleged to have said, nobody in his camp spoke to Blago “about my seat”. If indeed he did say the latter, then that would be a bald-faced lie since Rahm Emmanual certainly did speak to Blago about the seat.
Again, why does Obama obfuscate? There was nothing wrong with talking to Blago about his Senate seat which has been virtually empty the last two years anyway. What IS wrong are Obama’s denials that he or anyone on his staff spoke to Blago. Gee, wouldn’t you think a Senator would have a talk with the governor of his state about his/her vacated seat? Sheesh!
Here’s some interesting headlines about Democrat corruption here in the People’s Republic of Illinois:
Governor Blago, Putting the ‘Ill’ in Illinois
Only in the Land of Stinkin’
776 mindknumbed kid // Dec 14, 2008 at 10:41 am
Stick with stupid…nothing says official like a birth announcement in a newspaper. Could a birth announcement make the newspaper if he was born in Kenya, brought back to Hawaii, and his birth was registered?
wv - 100,000 issues : apparently this is just the tip
777 mindknumbed kid // Dec 14, 2008 at 10:52 am
Unfortunately for the simplistic minds it gets even more complicated when you go into the aspects of being “natural born”, and what Barry’s status was as he grew up and traveled about the world. I can absolutely prove my status to be where Mr. Obama is currently situated and I would gladly produce my documents immediately if I were there. Why delegitimize your own self?
778 onlineanalyst // Dec 14, 2008 at 11:14 am
Hey, newsman, this story, reported out of Afghanistan, is just one example of how and why the media have fallen from grace. As purportedly accurate recounters of facts, they have been met with skepticism by people who read beyond the headlines and the lede. Then again, most people do not read beyond those points, and television/radio news reporting rip their content from only the headlines and the lede graph when they pretend to inform their audience.
Color me unimpressed with the professionalism and ethics of an agenda-driven vehicle.
779 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 14, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Flash!
Since the demand for black [no pun intended, I don't think] market and/or counterfeit BHO dashboard statuettes is record-breaking, expect to see BHO fashions for the family franchises in strip malls everywhere.
780 Fred Sinclair // Dec 14, 2008 at 8:44 pm
“The Theory of Intelligence” - Impeccable logic - beyond refutation!
Cliff Clavin to Norm Peterson: ‘Well you see, Norm, it’s like this . . A herd of buffalo can only move as fast as the slowest buffalo. And when the herd is hunted, it is the slowest and weakest ones at the back that are killed first. This natural selection is good for the herd as a whole, because the general speed and health of the whole group keeps improving by the regular killing of the weakest members. In much the same way, the human brain can only operate as fast as the slowest brain cells. Now, as we know, excessive intake of alcohol kills brain cells. But naturally, it attacks the slowest and weakest brain cells first. In this way, regular consumption of beer eliminates the weaker brain cells, making the brain a faster and more efficient machine. And that, Norm, is why you always feel smarter after a few beers. ‘
Which obviously explains all one needs to know about the recent November 4th election. Far too many had switched from drinking beer to their current beverage of choice, “Kool Aid”. Then with all too many of their slowest and weakest brain cells surviving (and replicating) they soon outnumbered the faster and stronger brain cells. On Election Day the slowest and weakest brain cells were on display across America, befuddled and out of tune with reality, due in part to the expert use of subliminal hypnosis while speechifying by “The Usurper”, they voted for ……………………….Yes, they really did.
781 Newsman // Dec 14, 2008 at 9:22 pm
“On Election Day the slowest and weakest brain cells were on display across America, befuddled and out of tune with reality, due in part to the expert use of subliminal hypnosis while speechifying by “The Usurperâ€, they voted for..”
Sheesh, guess you Republicans are starting to suffer real badly from brain rot as well. One h-ll of a lot of you of all stripes voted for BO
782 Newsman // Dec 14, 2008 at 9:28 pm
Hey Darth:
“What IS wrong are Obama’s denials that he or anyone on his staff spoke to Blago.”
Obama said he did not talk with Blagohead. He never said that nobody on his staff talked with Blago. He is currently investigating that latter aspect.
And I thought you were a guy that paid close attention to facts !
Sheesh, guess you must have some of this brain cell rot as well. Too bad.
783 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 14, 2008 at 11:30 pm
The sky is falling and I would like to blame BHO.
Thank you
~~~~~
Merry Christmas
God Bless You and Yours
784 Hawkeye // Dec 15, 2008 at 8:55 am
JL3 #783,
785 RepublicanAttackMachine // Dec 15, 2008 at 11:00 am
Newsman, it is YOU who should pay attention. Axelrod said, “I know he, (Obama), has talked to the Governor,-”
Then after the Obama team went into “spin mode”, Axelrod said he was “mistaken” and “misspoke”.
The bottom line is, just like the people in Washington, D.C. who were the ONLY city/state in America to vote over 50% that Obama did not talk to Bliago, people that have Obama on a pedistal will NEVER listen to obvious FACTS about him.
I believe you have to be EXTREMELY NAIVE to not believe ANYONE would not talk to the person who can appoint your empty seat, no matter for what office you held!
I also hear an Obama supporter say that Obama probably DID talk to Blago and turned him down is why Bliago cussed him out.
There is another possibility why Bliago could have for cussing him. That Obama wanted the “favor” of the appointment for himself!
786 NeaL // Dec 15, 2008 at 12:28 pm
I thought this was a good video to put things into perspective:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D5oKEVqQJg
On another topic, does anyone still come here to see anything written by Scott Ott? I hope he’ll be back soon, when he’s ready.
787 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 15, 2008 at 2:47 pm
Attention all U.S. Citizens:
HAPPY BILL OF RIGHTS DAY!
The real biggie, Constitution Day, was in September. The festivities were overwhelming.
788 Fred Sinclair // Dec 15, 2008 at 4:10 pm
TO: God.com
Dear Lord,
Every single evening
As I’m lying here in bed,
This tiny little Prayer
Keeps running through my head:
God bless all my family
Wherever they may be,
Keep them warm and safe from harm
For they’re so close to me.
And God, there is one more thing
I wish that you could do;
Hope you don’t mind me asking,
Please bless my computer too.
Now I know that it’s unusual
To Bless a motherboard,
But listen just a second
While I explain it to you, Lord.
You see, that little metal box
Holds more than odds and ends;
Inside those small compartments
Rest so many of my friends.
I know so much about them
By the kindness that they give,
And this little scrap of metal
Takes me in to where they live.
By faith is how I know them
Much the same as you.
We share in what life brings us
And from that our friendships grew.
Please take an extra minute
From your duties up above,
To bless those in my address book
That’s filled with so much love.
Wherever else this prayer may reach
To each and every friend,
Bless each e-mail inbox
And each person who hits “send”.
When you update your Heavenly list
On your own Great CD-ROM,
Bless everyone who says this prayer
Sent up to GOD.com
Amen
Author (wish it was me) Unknown
789 Fred Sinclair // Dec 15, 2008 at 5:43 pm
I may have missed it but so far I’ve heard or read nothing about today being election day. Nov 4th is considered by most to be election day but December 15th is when the Electoral College decides who will be our next president. Electors from each state will meet in their state capitol and vote. These votes will be sent to the joint congress who will count the votes. The results of the Electoral College votes will be released on Jan. 5th 2009. So we must wait until then to learn “for sure” whether we will have a President or “A Usurper” in the White House.
Each state has a number of electors equal to the number of its Senators and Representatives in theUnited States Congress. Additionally, pursuant to the Twenty-third Amendment, the District of Columbia is given electors as if it were a state, but never more than the number held by the “least populous” state. (Alaska, Delaware, Montana, Wyoming, N. & S. Dakota each have 3) - U.S. territories are not represented in the Electoral College.
The historical probability is that they will elect B.O. but it is not a guaranteed result. Of course they may all vote however they choose but twenty two states have penalties for not voting the popular vote. (i.e. $10K fine in N.C.) Of the current 538 Electors whoever gets 270 votes - wins!
In 2000 Gore won the popular vote but with Florida’s Electors, Bush totaled 271. He didn’t “steal” the election - period.
790 everthink // Dec 15, 2008 at 6:18 pm
Shoe Drive for the Presidiot Bush
Send your shoes to Washington as a farewell gift to Dumbyah.
35 days,
ET
791 Newsman // Dec 15, 2008 at 6:28 pm
RepublicanAttackMachine ….. Sorry, have you read the news? You are wrong but you probably will come up with something to the contrary.
We believe what we want to believe and we all go to great lengths to find justification for our beliefs.
That’s how it goes with us human beings !
792 Newsman // Dec 15, 2008 at 6:32 pm
Sheesh, I feel real sorry for all you Republican extremists on this blog.
That Democratic Brain Rot is running amuck here !
793 Fred Sinclair // Dec 15, 2008 at 7:09 pm
While driving to work one day a young woman witnesses a terrible car accident. Jumping out of her car she rushed to help an unconscious young man that had been thrown from his car. Kneeling to help, she was shoved aside by a middle-aged man “Move it lady,” he said, “I’m trained in CPR!” After he tried for several minutes to revive the young man, the lady tapped him on the shoulder saying, “When you need to call a doctor, I’m right here.”
794 Fred Sinclair // Dec 15, 2008 at 7:20 pm
Re: My #789 - About the only possibility of redress might be the direct intervention of God, possibly by disqualification due to his ineligibility based on him not being a natural born Citizen. Which has yet to be proven either way.
God, for His own purposes and reasons put Ahab on the throne to reign over Israel for 22 years, so it could be that God, for His own purposes and reasons is putting Obama into the Presidency. Then the question is: Is resisting Obama, in effect, resisting God?
“So Omri slept with his fathers, and was buried in Samaria: and Ahab his son reigned in his stead. And in the thirty and eighth year of Asa king of Judah began Ahab the son of Omri to reign over Israel: and Ahab the son of Omri reigned over Israel in Samaria twenty and two years. And Ahab the son of Omri did evil in the sight of the LORD above all that were before him. And Ahab made a grove; and Ahab did more to provoke the LORD God of Israel to anger than all the kings of Israel that were before him.” (1 Kings 16:28-33)
795 Fred Sinclair // Dec 15, 2008 at 7:23 pm
:>)
796 Darthmeister // Dec 15, 2008 at 8:19 pm
Newsman, News7 said Obama had an appointment to talk with Blago on November 5th, that’s how I know. I posted the link.
So what do you think Blago and Oblahblah talked about … how both their younger daughters both like to play tiddly-winks? Of course they talked about his vacated Senate seat … what responsible Senator wouldn’t want to put his 2 cents worth in, hmmmmm?
I just find all these denials on Oblahblah and Rahm Emmanuel’s part suspicious and completely unnecessary … unless there were actual conversations about Blago putting a price tag on the seat. And even then Oblahblah would have been better served to have said, “Yeah we spoke about filling my seat and I was appalled at how he wanted to profit from it.” … or would he? Maybe he couldn’t speak honestly because then people would start asking why he didn’t contact the proper authorities (Federal prosecutor Fitzgerald, for example) when the subject may have come up. So all this makes me think that somehow, some way Barry Obama knew the seat was up for sale because maybe that’s how he rose to power in Illinois, do ya think? And there has been a lot of talk here in the People’s Republic of Illinois the last four years about that distinct possibility. Obama had some awfully powerful patrons, political backers and mondied interests who greased his skids here in the Democrap Land of Stinkin’.
AP PANIC: ‘Obama left with little time to curb global warming’…’cooling trend illustrates how fast the world is warming’…
You can’t make this stuff up! But trust me, the Global Warming priesthood will come up with some kind of cognitive dissonance which “proves” to the true believer that a “cooling trend” proves Global Warming. Buwahahahaha!
I mean, WE’RE DOOOOOOMED!
Can’t wait until these Global Warming dimwits start wearing sandwhich boards about how the world is going to end … and when the fires of Global Warming don’t consume us (Global Warming is the liberal humanists’ version of hell, btw), MESSIAH OBAMA SAVED US! Blessed be His name!!!
797 J. Cougar Melancholy // Dec 15, 2008 at 10:13 pm
President Moron makin’ friends:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9uIj0YvDBKE
Too bad those shoes weren’t designed by Richard Reid.
798 Newsman // Dec 16, 2008 at 12:10 am
“Newsman, News7 said Obama had an appointment to talk with Blago on November 5th, that’s how I know. I posted the link.”
I am aware of that statement - but I choose to believe what Obama said about the subject. Check the last sentence of this message.
Obama may have cancelled the appointment, perhaps made by that same aide without his okay, knowing the guy for the thug that he is.
Nobody to date has provided any evidence that Obama talked to Blagohead.
So, as I said you probably believe what you want about it because it fits in nicely with your outlook on Obama.
I am sure you have read today’s news on the subject.
Bush said there were WMDs. Did he doublecheck with some reliable sources beyond the arse kissers in his midst [every President has a slew of these guys who specialize in bring about what they think the president they work for wants - regardless of what he really wants] ?
So, was he lying or not ? None of us can really prove it one way or the other, so we tend to lean towards coming up with the answer that fits nicely within the boundaries of our particular political outlook.
You also know full well that nobody, and I mean nobody, gets to the heights of being a candidate for the President of the United States without playing some level of games !
Would George have made it to the Republican Convention if his last name was Dingle ? C’mon don’t be so naive Darthmeister !
The smarter Bush was the Governor of Florida !
799 Newsman // Dec 16, 2008 at 12:24 am
Hey Darth:
No Messiah of any stripe, color,religion is going to save our sorry human butts !
We are going the way of the DoDo by our own hand.
At 75, I won’t see it but my son, age 28, may come close within his normal lifetime. If not his son or daughter, if he has any, will know very well that something is threatening his/her very existence.
Mankind can’t keep throwing all these poisons into the atmosphere and think they are going to get away with it clean !
Whoever thinks that we are going to get away with all this constant pollution of our atmosphere really has their head in the sand, if not up you know where !
800 Fred Sinclair // Dec 16, 2008 at 1:31 am
Darthmeister #796 - “You can’t make this stuff up! But trust me, the Global Warming priesthood will come up with some kind of cognitive dissonance which “proves†to the true believer that a “cooling trend†proves Global Warming. Buwahahahaha!”
“Thanks for the heads-up, I should hurry and call 911, hopefully I can get an AirEvac to Walter Reed’s Burn Unit (supposed to be the best) I have to wear shorts due to Lymphodema in my legs and I just dropped a bowl of ice cubes in my lap. The burn may prove to be excruciatingly painful. Do you suppose Walter Reed can handle it?
Maybe I should try and contact algore for some of his advice. Do you think he’d help? Do you have his phone number? Please? I need help quick!
I recently read a Climate Scientist report on “Global Warming” vs “MANMADE Global Warming”. He said that the reason he has removed his name from the list of Scientist supporting the “MANMADE” aspect of Global Warming is a matter of perspective and he is convinced that man is to Global Warming as one grain of sand is to all of the beaches of the world. i.e. none, or at the maximum, an amount so statistically small as to be indistinguishable from zero.
801 camojack // Dec 16, 2008 at 2:20 am
(Eight hundred and) First!!!
802 Fred Sinclair // Dec 16, 2008 at 9:58 am
In Spain self-defense guns are strictly for the rich and powerful or their politico lackeys. Self-defense is not a right, just a “maybe” exigent or acquittal reason (there is still a manslaughter crime, but you do less prison time or even none at all)
A man calls the police and says: “Hi, I live in so-and-so, an isolated house in the country, and a car with four goon looking guys have arrived and are looking to break in. Please send help, my family is at risk!
Cop says: “Well, they haven’t broken in and entered yet, so there aren’t any crimes being committed, they are just passerby’s, and at any rate we don’t have any patrols in your area, nor will we until few more hours. Just in case, stay inside the house and hide your family in a closet or something”
Minutes later, the man calls the police once again: “Hello police, no need to hurry, there are no emergencies, nor is there a need to come here at all. I took my shotgun and blasted away three of the SOBs, and will finish the last one right after I hang up the phone.â€
Seconds later, several patrol cars, an ambulance, and a helicopter appear at house, finding everyone alive and well. Cop: “You said they were all dead!” Guy: “You said there weren’t any cops available…”
803 BlackLion31U // Dec 16, 2008 at 10:10 am
“It’s official: Obama elected 44th president”
804 BlackLion31U // Dec 16, 2008 at 10:21 am
It’s official: Obama elected 44th president
805 RepublicanAttackMachine // Dec 16, 2008 at 5:06 pm
Newsman: With the choice between believeing you, or my own ears, I choose my ears! I SAW the clip of Axelrod saying, “I KNOW he, (Obama), has talked to the Governor-”, but PLEASE continue your wrong headed bias on this FACT!
You have to be INCREDIBLY naive to think Obama would not want a part in hand picking his sucessor, especially with the guy, (Bliago), that Obama actively campaigned for and helped become Gov!
With all the misinformation America has been force fed by the likes of the N.Y Times, NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, and all the other Lame stream media that defends ANYTHING and EVERYTHING Obama does, your name is a good fit for you.
Unless you want to change it to “Spinman”?
806 RepublicanAttackMachine // Dec 16, 2008 at 5:22 pm
Newsman said, “I am aware of that statement - but I choose to believe what Obama said about the subject.”
And people like you talk about Bush being stubborn! Unbelieveable! From this statement it seems YOU will “choose” to believe your messiah no matter what the proof.
It certainly makes you look like a giant hypocrite after saying, Newsman // Dec 15, 2008 at 6:28 pm
“RepublicanAttackMachine ….. Sorry, have you read the news? You are wrong but you probably will come up with something to the contrary.” AND, Newsman // Dec 15, 2008 at 6:32 pm
“Sheesh, I feel real sorry for all you Republican extremists on this blog.
That Democratic Brain Rot is running amuck here !”
Seems that YOU are the extremist in that you CHOOSE to believe Obama, regardless of anything that has been said, or will be said. YOU just “choose” to believe him.
Now do what Axelrod did, and “say” you didn’t say just that.
807 Newsman // Dec 16, 2008 at 5:51 pm
“Seems that YOU are the extremist in that you CHOOSE to believe Obama, regardless of anything that has been said, or will be said. YOU just “choose†to believe him.”
And I suppose you are going to tell me that George is super straight and never said anything misleading or even a lie [altho Pols don't say they lied they say they 'misspoke']
It is not possible to be President and not get involved in some real finagling the bagle and worse !
In fact the truth is one cannot get to that level of politics without some degree of serious questionable activities. Republican or Democrat.
And if you don’t believe that then you have to be a tooth fairy believer!
808 Newsman // Dec 16, 2008 at 5:59 pm
Obama is not the Messiah ! Anyone who believes that …. what can I say.
I simply feel that he is the right man at this time for the job, just as you no doubt felt that George was the right man for his time.
Only History can decide who was or was not the right man.
It does not appear that George was the right man for most of his two terms, but that can’t be certain right now as not enough time has passed to see the long term results of his Presidency.
809 Newsman // Dec 16, 2008 at 6:05 pm
In fcat you could say that George was the right man in a way, as he presided over a period that has become one of the worst economic periods in our history.
As a result steps are going to be taken to correct the loosey goosey ways that have been permitted to exist.
It could be said right now the nation is experiencing severe pain. But this is leading to corrective econmic surgery that may result is the US being in the best health it ever has been.
So, you could say if it wasn’t for George these steps would never be taken.
There are all different ways at looking at a situation.
810 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 16, 2008 at 6:58 pm
811 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 16, 2008 at 7:01 pm
Here’s what a Real Man, a True Patriot has to say.
812 mindknumbed kid // Dec 16, 2008 at 8:59 pm
Anyone have a guess about the meaning of life, or Scott’s latest message on Twitter?
Global Warmingâ„¢ his kept me too busy to sit down at my computer for a couple of days. That nice shiny fancy 2008 truck will not operate under the extreme Global Warmingâ„¢ attacks we have seen in these parts since Saturday. On Sunday four out of four trucks at our warehouse would not start, but by 4 AM Monday I had half of them running, my new truck ran for a spell yesterday afternoon but today it was back to it’s old ways. It has missed the chance to take a trip to the dealership for a checkup two times in two days. We paid a guy to come by today and start the last truck, if I would’ve had the time it would have started with little effort as the temperature was back above zero this afternoon. I put in a call to All Goo-brained and he tells me that it will be warm here again very soon, maybe as early as the fourth of July!
813 mindknumbed kid // Dec 16, 2008 at 9:17 pm
Luke 12:5
But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.
And, I wish to give a tip o’ the hat to Gov. Blago for showing us how government really works. I was almost convinced that they WERE really looking out for you and me…
814 mindknumbed kid // Dec 16, 2008 at 9:30 pm
Money+Power = Corruption
Corruption and Government must be synonyms!
ps-FYI when I use POTUS, I really mean the President Of The United States. Sorry if anyone is confused or saddened by my choice of terms. Wne I have more time I will ’splain SCOTUS…
815 Newsman // Dec 16, 2008 at 11:17 pm
A ‘Real Man’ ?? What is that suppossed to mean.
I suppose that you are inferring that a ‘real man’ will always punch the other guy out rather then really use his brains to get the best of his opponent.
I read that Cheney piece and it made me think of some of the idiotic physical torture that has been used by some pretty ignorant types, that I surmise you consider ‘real men’
It has long been shown that putting someone on the rack, so to speak, is not the best way to get the information you are looking for from your prisoner. Really bright interrogators use their heads to outwit their target. They don’t do what we saw some dummies in Iraq do.
816 mig // Dec 17, 2008 at 8:17 am
Playboy magazine made an unlikely entrance into the Christmas fray by depicting its December cover girl as the Virgin Mary in the Mexican version of the magazine. According to Reuters, the issue hit newsstands on Dec. 1, just in time for the annual pilgrimage to the shrine of the Virgin of Guadalupe in Mexico City. Predictably, Playboy issued a statement that said, “Playboy Mexico never meant for the cover or images to offend anyone†and offered its “sincerest apologies.â€
Depicting the mother of Christ as a porn-star: 10 Grinches, plus two.
817 BlackLion31U // Dec 17, 2008 at 9:47 am
JL3 #811,
You can’t be serious. Cheney is probably the most Hitleresque political figure we’ve ever had in the United States. I look forward to the time when he is tried for war crimes.
He’s your example of a “real man”, a “true patriot”? Shoot if that’s the case, you must have been heart broken when they killed Saddam Hussein.
818 Newsman // Dec 17, 2008 at 8:12 pm
BlackLion31U - RIGHT ON !
819 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 17, 2008 at 9:14 pm
“The mean global temperature, at least as measured by satellite, is now the same as it was in the year 1980. In the last couple of years sea level has stopped rising. Hurricane and cyclone activity in the northern hemisphere is at a 24-year low and sea ice globally is also the same as it was in 1980.” ~~Here
820 Darthmeister // Dec 17, 2008 at 10:52 pm
Newsman, it was a Democratic Congress that “presided over a period that has become one of the worst economic periods in our history”, no thanks to Democrats Pelosi, Reed and particularly Chris Dodd and Barney Fwank of the Senate Finance Committee. Of course, Chris Dodd was the one who received the most
You can “believe” what you want, but the economy was doing quite respectable until the Democrats took over in early 2007. In fact we published some economic benchmarks when the Donks took the Senate back after the November 2006 elections and of course that’s when the economy started going south.
BTW, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mack meltdown on the Democrat’s watch in Congress and in case you didn’t know this, Congress still had oversight of those financial institutions and were saying there was nothing wrong. Don’t take my word for it, listen to the Democrats in their own words. Thank goodness for C-Span and the undeniable historical record that not even the liberal media can now control. You’re a blind lemming, Newsman, living in your house of cards built on liberal lies.
So, after seeing the video record of the Democrats’ culpability in this financial meltdown are you going to believe your own lying ears and eyes or continue believing the lying media and the partisan Democrat hacks you seem to enshrine as your Oracles of Delphi?
But then I suppose you can always resort to believing in some Rovian plot that used digital imaging manipulations to put words in Democrats’ mouths, right?
BTW, even Bill Clinton blamed Democrats for the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac debacle which created the present financial cascade that we are now suffering.
And here’s further proof from primary source documents that Democrats fueled this recent economic meltdown. Quit blaming everything on Bush, the office of the President doesn’t have the power to mess up any economy … unless he signs off on massive tax increases, levy price controls, or embraces Congressional attempt to nationalize large segments of industry or those things traditionally free market in America. Bush did none of those things. Get a clue and quit lying to yourself about Congressional Democrat incompetence.
821 Darthmeister // Dec 17, 2008 at 11:11 pm
Cheney is probably the most Hitleresque political figure we’ve ever had in the United States.
Blacklion, you have to be kidding right? So what Janet Reno did, under the auspices of Bill Clinton regime, to the Branch Davidians in Waco, Texas wasn’t “Hitleresque”? We’re talking over 84 Americans incinerated by an illegal standoff conducted by the FBI and ATF using illegal military assets in their fascist seige of the Branch Davidians. I offer no defense of David Koresh and his whacked out cult, but this is a clear case of a Democrat-controlled government conducting an illegal, fascist mission against AMERICANS!
Here’s one of the few links still up that hasn’t been censored … yet. Whine all you want about what our present government does to foreign enemies (i.e. bona fide jihadists) of this country, but the last time around Democrat controlled the government, Waco resulted … now there’s something truly Hitleresque my willfully ignorant friend.
After making the stupid and blindly partisan comment you’re obviously not qualified to tell us what constitutes “Hitleresque” or not. Get a clue.
822 Newsman // Dec 17, 2008 at 11:50 pm
Now here is an interesting Civics Literary Test at: http://www.americancivicliteracy.org/index.html
Sorry I do not know how to insert this url in html format.
Take the test to see how literate you are in civics.
The most intereting part of the test is how poorly politicians of all stripes score compared to us everyday citizens. You will be surprised to see how little they know in general.
823 Newsman // Dec 18, 2008 at 12:07 am
Darthmeister, you said, “Newsman, it was a Democratic Congress that “presided over a period that has become one of the worst economic periods in our historyâ€
I don’t argue with you one iota on this point. I think the entire congress [including all parties] is the sorriest bunch of public officials ! They talk the talk, but it has been a long time since Congress under any administration has accomplished much of anything worthwhile unless you consider “pork” a desirable political attribute.
Given that point, the Republican Administration is equally at fault with their thrust towards deregulation and failing in their responsibility to all us citizens to enforce existing laws and regulations, particularly as they relate to our economic system !
This administration, and Congress as well, is going to hit the history books as one of the worst since our country was founded, on the economic front. The military front has yet to be decided. Too early to tell.
I get more in a fury over the failure of my Congressional Representatives failing to do their job then I do at GW.
Let’s face it GW is not the brightest tack in the board, but I think basically he is most likely a reasonably straight guy - a touch stubborn and very resistant to changing his mind in the face of changing facts.
I believe he was originally selected as a winnable Republican Candidate For President by the Republican powers behind the door, of whom I think Cheney is one. A big factor was his last name as well as the fact he so malleable by those brighter then him. Plus a host of smaller desirable political factors.
824 mindknumbed kid // Dec 18, 2008 at 12:07 am
I wonder what bothers the kooks more Dick Cheney and George Bush or Terrorists who are still trying to defeat the “Great Satan”?
825 Newsman // Dec 18, 2008 at 12:11 am
Aha, I see the sytem is smarter then I and automatically picked up on the url !
But then I am a troll
Do I see sneering & and hear clapping ?
826 Newsman // Dec 18, 2008 at 12:13 am
mindknumbed kid you can sneer better then that !
827 Newsman // Dec 18, 2008 at 12:16 am
Darthmeister, if you only knew what our Justice Department and the FBI does under any administration !
I feel just like you when it comes to Waco.
828 Newsman // Dec 18, 2008 at 1:49 am
“the office of the President doesn’t have the power to mess up any economy …”
C’mon Darth ! Do Bears do you know what in the woods ?
The President sets the overall tone, direction and general philosophy each administration adopts.
You know that very well !
This administration has been very lax about enforcing a good many regulations and policies that just don’t fit with its direction and philosophy.
BTW, were you ever in the Military Darth ? If you were you would know that higher Officers rarely tell their subordinates to do certain things but they let their wishes and overall philosophy be well known. Then their minions do hoops and jump over tall bridges to carry out what their superior inferred.
This way nobody can ever say, so and so ordered or told me to do thus and thus.
Top politicians are absolute masters at this technique, so they can evade direct responsiblity for the results should all go down the tubes.
Many civilians at high levels are also very good with this technique but never will they be the masters at it that the Military and Politicians at higher levels are !
829 Darthmeister // Dec 18, 2008 at 8:07 am
Well, smart guy, then why hasn’t a Waco happened under President Bush? After all you said the president “sets the tone”.
Newsman, I’m amazed how at your age you continue looking at most things through the wrong end of the telescope. If Bush is mostly responsible for the rotten economy the last two years, then how did he turn three recessive quarters at the end of Clinton’s reign (which the liberal media studiously ignored) into six years of relative prosperity, despite 9/11 and the war on global Islamism, only to have the economy tank when the Democrats gain control of Congress in late 2006? Given how your side of the aisle is always crowing about direct correlations (you know, Bush declares war on jihadism and that somehow CREATES more terrorists instead of REVEALING more cockroach Muslim terrorists for what they are), then the economic correlation I proposed shouldn’t be too difficult for you to embrace given your political proclivities to point the finger of blame. Or do you find it easier to blame one person as the scapegoat instead of hundreds of people who happen to be the real cause of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac debacle? But then that wouldn’t be politically expedient for you given that your Donk “A-team” is now in control of Washington for at least the next two to four years, eh?
BTW, as we’ve previously documented here with news links, President Bush and his administration “set the tone” by warning Congress no less than eight times of the impending Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac meltdown. If Republicans in Congress are to blame it’s that they allowed a minority of Democrats stonewall them into not taking action and passing the new regulatory measures to reign in FMFM. But I guess Democrats playing the race card (i.e. “low income borrowers”) is a pretty powerful force to oppose, the gutless wonders most Congresscritters are.
Now you all but admit “both parties” blah, blah, blah are responsible for this economic downturn, so in the coming years I want to hear from you how DEMOCRATS in control of the Congress and now a Democratic presidency are responsible for deepening the economic recession.
BTW, do you have video links of Republicans in their own words acting like Democrats with respect to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac? No you do not. That’s why you can’t you back up your opinions with indisputable video documentation … other than probably float some video commentary by leftist nuts who warp the facts to your satisfaction, right? Doh!
Deal with the real historical record, not some fantasy history made up by Democratic shills in the liberal media. And let me be perfectly clear, there is indeed enough blame to go around regarding the economy from Republicans to Democrats to Allan Greenspan to the fearmongering media which clearly “set the tone” by talking down the economy the last four years, but a large measure of the blame must rest on the Donks in this case. You need to get hit with a bigger clue bat, sir.
As to media culpability in the present economic downturn, let me make this point: If what a significant majority of Americans hear for years on end is how the economy will soon be going into recession, wouldn’t that negatively affect people’s spending habits? I certainly would think so.
What the media deemed newsworthy since about 2004 is cranks on your side talking about how the “Bush economy” is the worst economy since the Great Depression. Well, I guess you and your ilk are going to see what another recession/depression under a Democrat is really going to be like. Consider if the average American consumer out of fear doesn’t spend money because of the negative media drumbeat day in and day out for years on end, then a whole host of economic realities rear their ugly heads in a consumer society (like businesses anticipating less profits and laying off workers for example). And as we are witnessing now, this partisan media negativism in turn creates a domino effect that most certainly will cascade throughout the marketplace that is little different than a self-fulfilling prophecy. The liberal media lies when it says it “only reports the news”, but those of us not blinded by the light of their clear partisanship are witnesses to the media industry working fervently to undermine the Bush administration … beating the recession drums for the last four years was simply another way the media could further tarnish President Bush’s reputation. And conversely, I predict the national socialist media will become Mr. Obama’s slobbering lap dogs despite whatever terrible decisions or inactions he may commit, even if it deepens America’s economic travails. But people like you have and will blind themselves to this media bias.
Democratic Sleaze on Display in Chicago.
And given that’s where Mr. Obama learned at the feet of his political mentors, no doubt that’s what The One really meant about “change” … turning America into a greater Chicago.
830 Newsman // Dec 18, 2008 at 12:02 pm
“BTW, as we’ve previously documented here with news links, President Bush and his administration “set the tone†by warning Congress no less than eight times of the impending Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac meltdown.”
They should have yelled a little louder. Methinks they whispered.
You and I are both not going to change our minds. I am not the extreme Dem that you believe me to be, contrary to your expectations.
Would you believe I voted for Nixon his first term, and I never took to the Kennedys when they first got into power.
I am really more in the middle and as such both sides throw garbage at you !
So be it.
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you all.
831 everthink // Dec 18, 2008 at 12:05 pm
Newsman,
Civics Literary Test at: http://www.americancivicliteracy.org/index.htmlCivics Quiz:
My test score:
You answered 31 out of 33 correctly — 93.94 %
Average score for this quiz during December: 74.7%
Average score: 74.7%
You can take the quiz as often as you like, however, your score will only count once toward the monthly average.
If you have any comments or questions about the quiz, please email americancivicliteracy@isi.org.
You can consult the following table to see how citizens and elected officials scored on each question.
But then I am a troll, too.
ET
832 Newsman // Dec 18, 2008 at 12:06 pm
“Well, smart guy, then why hasn’t a Waco happened under President Bush? After all you said the president “sets the toneâ€.
You don’t think that Bush, especially Cheney did not ’set the tone’ for what went on in that prison in Baghdad. Maybe not Bush, but you can bet your Tooties that Cheney did !
He truly is what blacklion said he is !
833 Newsman // Dec 18, 2008 at 12:12 pm
Interesting place, eh everthink ?
Keeps your brain cells and sense of humor working full time !
Not boring that is for sure !
834 RepublicanAttackMachine // Dec 18, 2008 at 12:23 pm
Darth, you asked/said, “Newsman, I’m amazed how at your age you continue looking at most things through the wrong end of the telescope.”
I will venture a guess, Newsman said he is 75 and has a late 20’s, (28 I think), year old son. Maybe he is trying to be the “hip, cool old dude” to his boy and their friends?
Yo newsman: Most people get wisdon in their older years. I am 56, (probably young to you(, but I try to let GOD guild me in these matters. I am NOT perfect, (as displayed by some of my previous comments), but continue to try, and LISTEN to what others say, and LOOK OBJECTIVELY at ALL political leaders. I see faults in ALL of them, INCLUDING Bush!
The reason I did not answer yourt last responce to me is because you did a “bait and switch” on me. When I brought up about your saying you “choose” to believe Obama, you went right to the talking points of the left wingers, and acussed me of doing this with Bush, which I NEVER did. I am NOT falling for that trap ANYMORE!
While in some posts you “say” you do not trust ANY politician, your defence AND “trust” that Obama shows something QUITE different.
I find it totally amazing that someone, (Obama) who has already been caught in lie after lie, has so many people willing to, (as Bill O’Reilly says), give him the benefit of the doubt!
Trust, and respect, are the things you EARN! That is what my father taught me, and I am 19 years your junior newsman.
Ever hear that? AND, are you going to continue to “bait and switch” or will you answer why if you distrust ALL politicans, why you trust Obama?
The ONLY things he has on his “record” are bad for this Country. Higher taxes, more abortions, more money going to other countries, MUCH more spending that even that of the Bush administration, (which I despise as much as you, but please do not be the typical Obama-nut and say it is OK for him though, while pointing the finger at Bush doing it)!
835 RepublicanAttackMachine // Dec 18, 2008 at 12:28 pm
Newsman: That third paragraph should have started: “To Newsman”, NOT “Yo Newsman”-. I wanted to clear that up since I said you might be trying to be “hip or cool”. Just a “fat fingered, too lazy” to proofread error.
NOT uncommon with me!
836 RepublicanAttackMachine // Dec 18, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Here is the answer to where Madoff got the idea for his “ponzi scheme”. Turns out he got the idea from a “DUMB-o-crat”!
http://blogs.indystar.com/varvelblog/
837 nylecoj // Dec 18, 2008 at 12:58 pm
Beautiful video
Holy Night
838 Newsman // Dec 18, 2008 at 2:25 pm
“your defence AND “trust†that Obama shows something QUITE different.”
WRONG. Where have I defended Obama or even said I “trust” him.
Please quote “exactly” where I have said what you say I have said.
I did say “Obama is not the Messiah !”
I voted for him but that is all. I have not quoted him, said he is our saviour or any of that stuff.
I will say that I hope he and his team can pull us out of this economic mess ! I would say the same had McCain been elected !
I will say that “Bush knows how to duck well”
839 BlackLion31U // Dec 18, 2008 at 3:41 pm
Respectfully Hank,
I would guess that it is some insecurity within you that makes you so defiant to anything that contradicts your tunnel vision opinions no matter how factual or truthful it may be. When you’re sitting in the Cuckoo’s nest Hank, you’re not qualified to judge my statements as “stupid†or “partisanâ€.
Cheney has engaged in War crimes. That’s not a hypothesis, that is a fact. What makes him Hilteresque is that he does these things arrogantly and can’t see that what he has done is wrong. He and you seem much alike. Is there any chance that maybe you guys are hunting partners?
840 Newsman // Dec 18, 2008 at 4:24 pm
“I will venture a guess, Newsman said he is 75 and has a late 20?s, (28 I think), year old son. Maybe he is trying to be the ?hip, cool old dude? to his boy and their friends?”
WRONG AGAIN ! I ain’t'hip’ I ain’t ‘cool’ And I may be old but I ain’t a ‘dude’ either. And I certainly have no interest in being friends with young kids who could be my grandsons….
So far your batting average is a BIG FAT ZERO ! Care to try again ?
841 RepublicanAttackMachine // Dec 18, 2008 at 5:08 pm
Newsman said, “WRONG AGAIN ! I ain’t’hip’ I ain’t ‘cool’ -”
I never said you were, In fact, you are NOT! I said you were probably trying to be. I STILL think that is why you are friends with the libs here. Your denials ring as true as those of the guy you “CHOOSE” to believe, Obama.
This is REALLY telling of your loyalty to this Country:
“I will say that I hope he and his team can pull us out of this economic mess ! I would say the same had McCain been elected !
I will say that “Bush knows how to duck wellâ€
ANYONE who thought/thinks a sitting President being attacked on foreign soil, (irregardless of whether you thing him a good President or not, or hate him as a person), is a big joke, fails to respect the “Office” of the Presidency, and is bordering on being a traitor, plain and simple! As Bill O’Reilly pointed out, the second shoe hit OUR FLAG. I would expect patriotic Americans to be POed at this Iraqi loon and not laughing ay Bush.
The statement you made before this about feeling the same if McCain had been elected makes you look just like Obama with his “stories”.
I have nothing more to say to you because you cannot even see how assine you look and you are NOT believeable.
842 Fred Sinclair // Dec 18, 2008 at 9:39 pm
Some things seem to slip by almost unnoticed. Roy Beck of NUMBERS USA is waging a fight against immigrant workers, both legal and illegal.
EXCERPT:
Daily the economic news gets more grim. Layoff follows layoff, as companies and local governments slash their budgets, firing hundreds of thousands of people.
(keep reading to see how this affects you! )
The job market appears to be melting down before our very eyes.
So how does it make sense for the federal government to bring in around 140,000 extra, additional foreign workers each and every month, to take American jobs?
Yes, you heard it right. Your government is currently issuing around 140,000 new work permits and green cards each month—1.6 million each year—to foreign workers. When our economy is losing millions of jobs, and nearly 20 million Americans are unemployed or working at reduced hours, why should the feds and their corporate campaign contributors bring in ANY new foreign workers to take American jobs?
END OF EXCERPT
I guess it’s just whistling in the wind with the Dems in power little or nothing will come of Roy’s work but somewhere down the line America is in for a rude awakening. I wish I could be here to witness it, when it comes.
843 Fred Sinclair // Dec 18, 2008 at 9:41 pm
844 gafisher // Dec 18, 2008 at 9:53 pm
RAM Re “… this Iraqi loon …”
Considering he works for an Egyptian TV station, I’d suggest Mr. PF Flyers qualifies as just another insurgent, much like our own media.
845 gafisher // Dec 18, 2008 at 10:09 pm
Herr Doktor BS31U Re#839: Thank you for presenting your diagnosis. Your appeal to Godwin’s Law [*] aptly establishes your qualifications.
846 Fred Sinclair // Dec 18, 2008 at 10:12 pm
RAM #841 - BOY-O-BOY Something somebody said/wrote got you riled. From what I make of your post, whoever it was (I don’t play with troll droppings) but whatever it was; disrespect for the office of the President is a major NO NO.
Some many years ago 4 Star General Dan James (America’s 1st negro 4 star general) wasn’t saluted by an enlisted man. He called the man back and told him that while he (the enlisted man) may not like or respect him as a person or an individual, he (the general) would not tolerate disrespect for the uniform he wore.
He even offered to remove his hat and place it on a nearby post. “But you will by G-d salute this uniform!” The enlisted man saluted.
Any troll whose maggot infested brain wants to make light of or make fun of an insult to America, doesn’t know what he’s doing. The President whoever he or she may be represents America. I and 300 M other citizens are America. So that shoe as thrown at me. I don’t take well to having a shoe thrown at me.
I lived in Libya for a year and a half. To sit in such a manner so as to expose the sole of your shoe or foot to view is a grave and serious insult. It would have been a much lesser insult if the guy had thrown a handful of feces at our President.
847 camojack // Dec 19, 2008 at 2:19 am
nylecoj // Dec 18, 2008 at 12:58 pm
Beautiful video
Holy Night
Indeed; nice. So is THIS one…
848 RepublicanAttackMachine // Dec 19, 2008 at 2:56 am
Fred it was the moronic comment by Newsboy that Bush sure knows how to duck, with a smiley face after his comment.
I did not see it until Bill O’Reilly pointed it out but the second shoe thrown by this “de-toweled towel head”, (how’s that for some disrespect?), hit the American Flag behind Bush. That POed me worse than offending the President, and THAT offended me LOT!
I served my Country and was willing to die for what that flag represents and as much as I do not like Americans desecrating it, I hold my tongue for the free speech issue, but terrorists and foreigners do NOT receive that same priviledge!
If I had been there this Iraqi @$$ would have a few less teeth, and maybe need some surgery to repair his private parts!
849 RepublicanAttackMachine // Dec 19, 2008 at 3:02 am
PS: If I was Obama I would fire the Secret Service guys on this detail. I sure would not feel safe with them protecting me. This loon got two shoes trown at Bush and they were still standing there looking around!
Then tonight, I hear that Dana Perino got hit in the eye by a boom mike CAUSED by one of the Secret Service guys jumping around after the damage was done and over with!
Gird your loins “O” man, it may be a wild 4 years!
850 Darthmeister // Dec 19, 2008 at 8:11 am
The Real “Torture” Disgrace
When liberal la la land utopianism meets the real world of illegal enemy combatants who want to kill Americans.
851 Darthmeister // Dec 19, 2008 at 8:16 am
RAM, leave it to anti-Bush moonbats to gloat over the shoe throwing incident. Now if the shoes had been thrown at their beloved Obamessiah, they would be screaming in outrage and playing the race card.
It looks like Mr. Obama has no intention of following through on immediately removing “American occupiers” from Iraq as he originally claimed he would, therefore the shoe thrower would have probably treated Mr. Obama to a mouth full of shoe if he had been there instead of President Bush. Just a guess.
852 Newsman // Dec 19, 2008 at 1:44 pm
“ANYONE who thought/thinks a sitting President being attacked on foreign soil, (irregardless of whether you thing him a good President or not, or hate him as a person), is a big joke, fails to respect the “Office†of the Presidency, and is bordering on being a traitor, plain and simple!”
Boy, some of you guys revel in what you think someone means when they make a comment. The thing is that you are totally WRONG ! You need to pay strict attention to what someone says and not waste your time believing that person is “implying something”
I have sent many e-mail messages to GW since he has been in office. I am always very careful to start my message with “Sir” and whatever I state is stated respectfully, whether it be a negative or positive comment. Whether any of you care to believe it or not, there have been stances he has taken that I backed 100% ! One of the biggest was his stance on Immigration. Unfortunately it didn’t seem like Congress or even his own party backed him on it, but he was right !
So you can interpret all you want but when you state that I don’t have respect for whoever is in the Office Of The President YOU ARE DEAD WRONG !
When I was in the military it would not matter one iota the politics of whoever was in the Office. Whoever occupies the office is the Commander In Chief and I would do whatever he ordered !
You can be in the military and have your own political views. You simply do not let those views interfere with your duty to your Commander In Chief.
So you guys who think I said something that I have not factually stated do not know what you are talking about period !!
So Darthmeister and whoever else the above applies to can just go pound sand to your heart’s content. I say what I mean and I know what I say.
Many of you read comments on here and believe that person implies this or that when that is not the case.
Whether you believe what I say is true or factual or whatever you believe is your problem not mine. BUT have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, I am out of here to enjoy warmer climes.
I’ll be back to troll about in 2009.
Life must indeed be quite dull when you don’t have a couple of trolls around to build up your blood pressure. It can be pretty boring to hang around solely with people who always agree with you - very boring methinks !
853 everthink // Dec 19, 2008 at 2:52 pm
Newsman,
“… Pearls before Swine”.
Merry Christmas friend.
ET
854 nylecoj // Dec 19, 2008 at 2:53 pm
Camo re 847,
That is very nice thank-you
855 BlackLion31U // Dec 19, 2008 at 3:36 pm
Vice President Dick Cheney said Monday:
“I was aware of the program, certainly, and involved in helping get the process cleared”
“His comments come on the heels of disclosures by a Senate committee showing that high-level officials in the Bush administration were intimately involved in reviewing and approving interrogation methods that have since been explicitly outlawed and that have been condemned internationally as torture.â€
Mathew Alexander (VetVoice)â€
“Torture and abuse cost American lives. I learned in Iraq that the No. 1 reason foreign fighters flocked there to fight were the abuses carried out at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo. Our policy of torture was directly and swiftly recruiting fighters for al-Qaeda in Iraq. The large majority of suicide bombings in Iraq are still carried out by these foreigners. They are also involved in most of the attacks on U.S. and coalition forces in Iraq. It’s no exaggeration to say that at least half of our losses and casualties in that country have come at the hands of foreigners who joined the fray because of our program of detainee abuse. The number of U.S. soldiers who have died because of our torture policy will never be definitively known, but it is fair to say that it is close to the number of lives lost on Sept. 11, 2001. How anyone can say that torture keeps Americans safe is beyond me — unless you don’t count American soldiers as Americans.â€
http://www.vetvoice.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=2309
The Senate Armed Service Committee, led by Carl Levin and John McCain, released a blistering report specifically blaming key administration figures for prisoner mistreatment and interrogation techniques that broke the law. The bipartisan report reads like a brief for the prosecution—calling, for example, Rumsfeld’s behavior a “direct cause” of abuse. Analysts say it gives a green light to prosecutors, and supplies them with political cover and factual ammunition.
Bush issues a blanket pardon in his final days, as Neuborne and many other experts now expect. (Some see Cheney’s recent defiant-sounding admission of his own role in approving waterboarding as an attempt to force Bush’s hand.)
http://www.newsweek.com/id/176044?from=rss
Anyone who can declare Cheney as anything but a criminal is sadly just obstinate.
856 Fred Sinclair // Dec 19, 2008 at 4:10 pm
More fun and enjoyment from this than I would have thought possible.
I really thought this would be a cakewalk - it isn’t. Over and over again and again I can now complete all 35 countries is a bit under 4 minutes. Now I can work, trying to get under 3 minutes. I would love to find this in segments for all the world’s countries. It’s much more of a challenge than you’ll think. As an educational tool for school-kids, I think it’s superb.
TAKE THE MIDDLE EAST GEOGRAPHY QUIZ
Drag the country’s name onto the map. There is no humbling score or
time limit, but rather this exercise is a learning tool. Don’t be afraid to
make an error, and once you finish the puzzle, you will be far more
educated about this very intense part of our world.
http://www.rethinkingschools.org/just_fun/games/mapgame.html
857 Newsman // Dec 19, 2008 at 6:35 pm
Sorry, I am leaving, but not just yet !!
Blacklion31U - The worst part of the whole Iraqi operation is that it has turned into a giant “Live Boot Camp For Jihadists” at our expense !
Imagine that - we “Satan”, as we are known to these folks, are actually providing live advanced training to the very people who are willing to give their lives to kill us.
We simply do not have enough men to stand shoulder to shoulder at the borders to wipe them out before they go into training !
And even worse, we don’t have enough soldiers to kill every one of the sorry b-tards the instant they graduate !
858 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 19, 2008 at 9:16 pm
Merry Christmas!
Happy New Year!
God Bless You and Yours
859 mig // Dec 19, 2008 at 11:11 pm
Muckety muck in Chicago
860 Darthmeister // Dec 19, 2008 at 11:14 pm
Is Barry Obama Vulnerable to Blackmail?
For the sake of America I hope not.
Anyone who can declare Cheney as anything but a criminal is sadly just obstinate.
Blacklion, you’re simply a one man kangaroo court! Congratulations. I thought in America a person is innocent until proven guilty. Twisting Cheney’s words and engaging in pure hate on your part doesn’t make him a “criminal”. But it’s just what I expect from chest thumping, closet fascists like you pretending to be so open-minded and progressive.
861 camojack // Dec 20, 2008 at 4:38 am
nylecoj // Dec 19, 2008 at 2:53 pm
Camo re 847,
That is very nice thank-you
You’re quite welcome.
I love it when she hits that high note; it really affects me…
862 Fred Sinclair // Dec 20, 2008 at 9:38 am
Ain’t this just so spechul?
Excerpt from DRUDGE this A.M.
With economy in shambles, Congress gets a raise
By Jordy Yager
A crumbling economy, more than 2 million constituents who have lost their jobs this year, and congressional demands of CEOs to work for free did not convince lawmakers to freeze their own pay.
Instead, they will get a $4,700 pay increase, amounting to an additional $2.5 million that taxpayers will spend on congressional salaries, and watchdog groups are not happy about it.
“As lawmakers make a big show of forcing auto executives to accept just $1 a year in salary, they are quietly raiding the vault for their own personal gain,†said Daniel O’Connell, chairman of The Senior Citizens League (TSCL), a non-partisan group. “This money would be much better spent helping the millions of seniors who are living below the poverty line and struggling to keep their heat on this winter.â€
863 onlineanalyst // Dec 20, 2008 at 10:30 am
Carl Levin is on his perpetua witch hunt, and Republican members of his committee, as well as the WSJ, take issue with him and his misrepresentations.
It’s pathetic that a media with an agenda made Abu Graib and Guantanamo grist for their column inches because the reality is that the infamous perpetrators were a rogue few who were prosecuted for their idiocy. The media frenzy did more to escalate jihadi recruitment than they are willing to admit.
I have utmost respect for Dick Cheney, who operated with our nation’s best interests at heart. Levin is barking up the wrong tree in pursuing his vendetta.
For all of the accusations against President Bush as a pawn of the Saudis, one only has to look at the obscene funds donated to Bill Clinton for his legacy library. No wonder Bill was so reluctant to pursue our enemies. They knew that he has a venal streak.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year anyway. These may be the good old days that we look back toward with nostalgia once the naked emperor initiates his domestic program.
864 Fred Sinclair // Dec 20, 2008 at 2:21 pm
FRANKEN GAINS GROUND IN MINNESOTA SENATE RACE AS RECOUNT ROLLS ON
This morning alfranken trailed by 350 votes with numerous folders and envelopes being “found” during the day’s relentless searching, in car trunks, back seats, backpacks, bicycle wire baskets, secretaries desks, brief-cases et-al.All “accidently overlooked”…. currently akfranken is trailing by two (2) votes.
How anyone connected to this Circus Election can maintain a straight face is beyond me. The blatantly obvious voter fraud is all the funnier since alfranken’s camp isn’t even making an attempt to be subtle about their nefarious criminal acts.
Looks like two should be able to play that game. Now is about the time for the Republicans to suddenly find a “previously overlooked and uncounted” foot locker with 20,000 ballots - 100% Republican!!!
865 Fred Sinclair // Dec 20, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Excerpt from Ann Coulter @ “Human Events”
Dear Fellow Conservative,
Last night, I had a horrible dream… and no, this isn’t the famous “I Had a Dream” speech. Frankly, I think that one could use a rest.
No, in my dream it was 12 noon, so naturally I tuned in for my daily dose of conservative news and commentary from the greatest political talk show host in the history of radio.
As I imagined one half of a giant brain being tied behind a familiar back, just to make it fair, the familiar bass notes from “My City Was Gone” throbbed, and the announcer’s voice boomed…
“Ladies and gentleman… in accordance with Fairness Doctrine broadcasting regulations… here’s AL FRANKEN!”
I woke up screaming. But then I realized it was just a bad dream.
Or was it?
The next big “bailout” planned by Obama, Reid, Pelosi and pals is… THE BAILOUT OF LIBERAL TALK RADIO.
Conservative talk radio drives liberals crazy — or, rather, it drives them crazier. They think it’s unfair that more people want to listen to conservative talk radio than to liberal talk radio.*****
866 nylecoj // Dec 20, 2008 at 3:19 pm
camojack // Dec 20, 2008 at 4:38 am
I love it when she hits that high note; it really affects me…
She is incredible!
We are having an unusually cold and snowy couple of weeks and my understanding is that another storm is going to hit tonight.
Normally all I would have had to worry about is getting to the office and back everyday as I do most of my Christmas shopping online but since this year my Mom has become pretty well house bound she texted me the other day and asked me to do her shopping for her. It is crazy out there! I had forgotten what it was like to brave the throngs and I can’t remember ever having to do it in such crazy driving circumstances.
She said (via text she isn’t talking so well anymore) she sure wished she could be out there with me I told her all she probably would have had to look forward to was listening to me curse under my breath at other drivers. At least that made her laugh, she is prone to severe depression bouts and I hope that headed one off.
I hope you all are snug and warm at home and enjoying the Season.
J
867 Fred Sinclair // Dec 20, 2008 at 3:29 pm
Courtesy of Dr. Douglass -
Top 5 things NOT to get your wife for Christmas
You’ve been there… That time when you thought you got your wife the “perfect gift,” but it STILL landed you in the doghouse. If you want to avoid the, “Gee, thanks,” or worse yet, the cold shoulder, here are a few things NOT to get your wife for Christmas. Consider it my gift to you.
1. Exercise equipment. Do I really need to explain this one?
2. Cleaning products. I don’t care if it’s the latest, greatest Swiffer Wet Jet 5000. I don’t care if she’s told you five times that she wants one. Don’t do it.
3. Lingerie. Let’s be honest… you and I both know this isn’t really for her. And the kicker? She knows it too…
4. Cookware. Nothing says “I love you” like a Teflon pan. If you ever want a home cooked meal again, take her out to a fancy restaurant… serve her breakfast in bed… but for goodness sake, don’t even think about wrapping a colander.
5. Jumper cables. It might seem perfectly reasonable to you, but she doesn’t want jumper cables – or any other item from an emergency roadside kit. YOU are her emergency roadside kit. It’s one of the reasons she married you.
PS Something with a lot of diamonds in it will do nicely. (And I don’t mean a deck of cards).
868 Fred Sinclair // Dec 20, 2008 at 3:40 pm
nylecoj #866 - Truly sorry to learn about your Mom’s severe depression bouts. That can be a lot worse than many people can imagine.
Following is a list of Christian one liners that help cheer me up at times. Maybe she’ll like a few of them. (I hope)
Christian One Liners
Don’t let your worries get the best of you;
Remember, Moses started out as a basket case.
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Some people are kind, polite, and sweet-spirited
Until you try to sit in their pews.
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Many folks want to serve God,
But only as advisers.
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It is easier to preach ten sermons
Than it is to live one.
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The good Lord didn’t create anything without a purpose,
But mosquitoes come close.
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When you get to your wit’s end,
You’ll find God lives there.
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People are funny; they want the front of the bus,
Middle of the road,
And back of the church.
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Opportunity may knock once,
But temptation bangs on the front door forever.
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Quit griping about your church;
If it was perfect, you couldn’t belong.
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If a church wants a better pastor,
It only needs to pray for the one it has.
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We’re called to be witnesses, not lawyers or Judges.
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God Himself doesn’t propose to judge a man until
he is dead. So why should you?
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Some minds are like concrete
Thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
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Peace starts with a smile.
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I don’t know why some people change churches;
What difference does it make which one you stay home from?
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A lot of church members singing ‘Standing on the Promises’
Are just sitting on the premises.
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Be ye fishers of men. You catch ‘em - He’ll clean ‘em.
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Stop, Drop, and Roll won’t work in Hell.
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Coincidence is when God chooses to remain anonymous.
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Don’t put a question mark where God put a period.
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Don’t wait for 6 strong men to take you to church.
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Forbidden fruits create many jams.
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God doesn’t call the qualified,
He qualifies the called.
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God grades on the cross, not the curve.
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God loves everyone,
But probably prefers ‘fruits of the spirit’ over ‘religious nuts!’
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God promises a safe landing, not a calm passage.
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He who angers you, controls you!
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If God is your Co-pilot, swap seats!
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Prayer:
Don’t give God instructions, just report for duty!
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The task ahead of us is never as
great as the Power behind us.
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The Will of God never takes you to where the
Grace of God will not protect you.
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We don’t change the message,
The message changes us.
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The size of a man is not measured in feet and inches,
but rather by the size if the things it takes to discourage him.
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The best mathematical equation I have ever seen:
1 cross + 3 nails = 4 given.
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If this blessed you in a profound way today,
Share it with a few friends to bless them!
I bet someone else will LOVE it too.
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There is no greater treasure here on earth
than a good friend!
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Life isn’t about waiting for the storm to pass.
It’s about learning to dance in the rain.
869 nylecoj // Dec 20, 2008 at 7:31 pm
Oh Fred,
those are great Mom will love them. As many of you here know, because she is on so many of your prayer lists, she has a long row to hoe, and humor seems to be a real help in keeping her mood up.
She has a rare untreatable neuro degenerative disease that is, in a way, the opposite of alzheimers. Instead of her mind going her physical abilities go. She is sharp as a tack but she has gone from being able to out run me on a normal basis to being unable to perform most any task on her own and is in almost constant need of care. That will change soon to constant care. Having been a very active and independant individual until just over a year ago she does frequently get terribly depressed as I mentioned. We try to make her laugh as often as possible and that list is precious.
I think I especially like the one about Moses starting out as a basket case.
870 Newsman // Dec 20, 2008 at 10:11 pm
“I thought in America a person is innocent until proven guilty. Twisting Cheney’s words and engaging in pure hate on your part doesn’t make him a “criminalâ€. But it’s just what I expect from chest thumping, closet fascists like you pretending to be so open-minded and progressive.”
Darth, you are accusing a man of being a fascist just after you state, “I thought in America a person is innocent until proven guilty.”
How can you have it two ways ?
871 Newsman // Dec 20, 2008 at 10:15 pm
“God Himself doesn’t propose to judge a man until
he is dead. So why should you? ”
Do some of you guys think about what you post. I have thought all along Fred that you are a faithful subscriber to the word of God ?
872 Fred Sinclair // Dec 20, 2008 at 10:44 pm
I note that the MSM is not using Caroline Schlossberg ’s name but refers to her as Carolyn Kennedy. She’s about as qualified to be a Senator as B.O. is qualified to be a President.
During the Primaries, Sarah Palin was dissed as not having the necessary ‘experience’ to be President. Now, if Carolyn Kennedy Schlossberg fills Mrs. Bill Clinton’s Senate seat then obviously ‘experience’ is a null factor when running for office..
I think President Sarh Palin sounds pretty good for 2012.
873 mindknumbed kid // Dec 20, 2008 at 11:09 pm
Fred - re#862 - Yet they made such a big deal about the CEO’s of the big 3 flying in on their own planes. Our elected officials have no restraint when it comes to spending. A bit hypocritical if you ask me.
874 mindknumbed kid // Dec 20, 2008 at 11:17 pm
Genesis 38:9-11 (King James Version)
9And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother’s wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother.
10And the thing which he did displeased the LORD: wherefore he slew him also.
11Then said Judah to Tamar his daughter in law, Remain a widow at thy father’s house, till Shelah my son be grown: for he said, Lest peradventure he die also, as his brethren did. And Tamar went and dwelt in her father’s house.
newsman, you said
“God Himself doesn’t propose to judge a man until
he is dead. So why should you? â€
Are you quoting someone from another post? I went way back and could not find that line in a post.
Regardless though, there are plenty of passages similar to the one I posted that show that statement is not exactly accurate.
875 mindknumbed kid // Dec 20, 2008 at 11:22 pm
Is there a way to engage an enemy that pleases them?
876 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 21, 2008 at 7:36 am
It’s in #868.
In order to get the joke, it is necessary to understand God’s Word regarding judgement. Therefore, for those who didn’t get it, I would like to suggest a Topical Study regarding the word “judge” in its various contexts [e.g., Hebrew, Greek, who, why]; sub-topics: “heart” and “actions.”
It’s not rocket science, actually it’s quite straightforward. Matthew 7 and Luke 6 might be good starting points.
877 Darthmeister // Dec 21, 2008 at 12:16 pm
More on the Party of Corruption
Can you name that party? AP conveniently ignores former Ohio Attorney General’s party affiliation. He’s a DEMOCRAT! Imagine that.
“How can you have it both ways?” whined Newsman.
Oh ye of little nuance. You called Cheney a “criminal”, a fact which must be established in a court of law. I called you a fascist because you unilaterally declare people with whom you have political disagreements, criminal. This is precisely what the Nazis did in demonizing the Jews by calling them “criminal bankers” blah, blah, blah. The strength of the Nazi claim rested solely on warped conspiracy theories and political swill - something the American left has consistently engaged in their politically-motivated anti-Bush/anti-conservative/anti-Republican/blame-America rants for the last seven years.
When I called you a “fascist”, I’m merely looking at your consistent partisan behavior and condemning you in the court of public opinion. Perfectly within my right to do so given your fascist behavior here.
BTW, in America it’s also not criminal to be a “fascist” or a “commie”, so I’m not euphemistically calling you a “criminal” either. Don’t try that angle. But why do you object to being called a fascist when you and your ilk engage in your patented kangaroo courts of hate? Am I touching a nerve?
Isn’t it self-evident, liberals have been self-righteously condemning Republicans and conservatives as “fascists” since the Reagan era, so in this case what goes around comes around and surely what’s good for the goose is good for the gander, eh?
So cut the “criminal” talk, Newsman, until a legitimate, unbiased court of law determines the saliency of the highly partisan complaints against Cheney recklessly advanced by well-practiced hacks on your side of the aisle.
878 RedRum151 // Dec 21, 2008 at 6:54 pm
Darthmeister - you have grievously injured Newsman with your judgmental, mean-spirited words.
Shocking!
At the very least, you should have the decency to call a waaaambulance.
879 onlineanalyst // Dec 21, 2008 at 10:04 pm
Bernard Goldberg, who wrote a book about media bias, has a new one coming out about the “torrid romance between Barack Obama and the mainstream media”. I can’t wait to read it because Goldberg is a true newsman.
880 Newsman // Dec 21, 2008 at 10:57 pm
Darth:
I always thought that you were one of the most reasonable intelligent people on this blog, who simple held opposite political views from me.
Yet, you find it impossible to carry on any discourse without resorting to words such as, ‘whiney’ ‘fascist’,'liar’ etc., etc., etc., ad nauseum.
Sort of significantly lessens the quality of your comments !
How can you expect someone to give serious consideration to your viewpoint when you resort to such responses ?
881 Ms RightWing, Ink // Dec 22, 2008 at 12:58 am
Peeking from behind the door.
Anyone hear from Scott yet?
Closing door and going to bed.
882 Ms RightWing, Ink // Dec 22, 2008 at 1:00 am
Hmm, maybe I slammed the door to hard.
883 Left Coast-Right Mind // Dec 22, 2008 at 4:34 am
As a Long-Term Lurker (LTL), I’ve had the privilege of witnessing Mr. Ott’s “tarp as a shack” (as my Grandma was fond of saying) wit for several years now. I’ve been reluctant to post for a number of reasons. Among them, most of the time the thoughts that enter my public-educationalized mind have already been articulated more eloquently than I could ever dream of doing, or that I sometimes doubt my own meager contributions can “live up” (as it were) to the quality of thought and discourse presented here by the veterans.
However, the original piece, that has inspired this gargantuan thread, is a masterstroke in illustrating the vaporousness of the man that has just been elected to be the most powerful leader in the free world.
If “all the world’s a stage”, then this “player” has not even learned the basics of what his role is going to be, but he acted just well enough to get the part. In fact, he acted so well, that not even his own supporters know what he stands for now.
But I am not going to don the sackcloth and ashes just yet. America has suffered a lot in her (relatively) short lifetime, but she has endured. She will do so again as long as those who will rise up to defend her virtues outnumber those who seek to break her of what makes her the beacon to the world, and to her own people, that she is.
I did wish to touch on a few of the myriad of topics that this thread has meandered through during this span.
The Barack H. Obama birth certificate issue, which has apparently been pushed aside, left me with a great deal of respect for the Democrats, in that they brought Bill Burkett out of retirement and found him something useful to do. I will say that he at least learned from his previous work on documents, and allowed the ink to dry on them before submitting them to the press. And for his efforts, I’m sure that Mr. Obama has just the position for Mr. Burkett in the Cabinet, Chief Editor at the Ministry of Truth.
As for the so-called “Fairness Doctrine”, I have a little story about that. Here in my neck of the woods, there is a family that independently owns two radio stations. At one time, one of the stations carried predominantly conservative talk shows, and the other was a liberal station. A few years back, the manager for the stations ran promos encouraging listeners to buy up ad space for their businesses so the stations could continue broadcasting the (apparently) expensive programming that they were making available. These promos ran for a couple months until the manager came back to report that the conservative station had its coffers almost to overflowing with ad revenue, while the liberal station was severely lacking. He warned that he’d keep the offer open for another month, but if things did not improve, then the liberal station may have to undergo a format change. The extra month went by, and the situation did not improve, so the station manager, who hosts his own talk shows on Saturdays, invited callers to comment on what to do with the liberal station, since there was not enough financial support to keep the programming afloat. Call after call came in from irate listeners, about how he (the station manager) had no right to “take away” the liberal talk shows that they listened to. He was very calm (more calm than I would have been) and asked several of the callers how much they donated, or how much ad space they bought. More often than not, the answer was “Nothing” or “None”. Some callers berated the manager and told him to take money from the conservative station to pay for the liberal talk shows. To this he responded that it would be unethical to take money, paid in good faith, for one station and apply it to the other without consent, and also that even though the conservative station was flush with ad revenue, there was not enough to support both stations. He even asked some of these callers if the situation were reversed would they be in favor of taking money from the financially flush liberal station and helping support the conservative one, to which the answer was typically “H-ll no!”. Still other callers complained that it was their right to have access to those radio shows, and that the station should air them anyway, to which the answer was that the station would go under inside a month, and would most likely need to be sold to another party that would probably change the format anyway. And finally, the more militant callers hurled insults and barbs at the manager, threatening lawsuits and letters to the FCC to get their broadcaster’s license pulled, so that the conservative station would be forced to fold as well. To make a long story short (too late), the same family still owns both stations; the conservative station is still going strong, while the liberal station is now your destination for “Good Times and Great Oldies”.
And now my thoughts on the housing/financial debacle. About a week and a half ago, I had somewhat of an epiphany. I thought that with the election of Obama, and in the context of Ms. Peggy Joseph, who made her national limelight debut by saying, “I won’t have to worry about putting gas in my car; I won’t have to worry about paying my mortgage…”, that there might be something to that. Now putting gas in my car is not too bad right now, with prices down to $1.73/gal. here in my corner of the Tarnished Golden State. But the mortgage is another story. Currently, 1100 simoleons go to CitiMortgage each month for my domicile, and that just isn’t right that they expect me to pay that much and honor the agreement that I signed. So, I am of the [Right] mind (nyuk nyuk) to begin (in February 2009) sending President Obama a copy of my mortgage statement, each month, with a respectful letter requesting him to personally see to it that it is paid in full, and on time. Of course this would be a terrible waste of stamps, but if the expenditure of $20.16 (at current first-class postal rates; $40.32 if he’s re-elected *shudder*) gets me out of paying $52,800 - $105,600 over the same 4- or 8-year period (*shudders again*) then it is money well spent. My fear is that I’ll receive a letter back from President Obama informing me that there is no way he can help me because I did everything right. That I closely followed the interest rate news, and locked in a favorable fixed rate at just the right time. In fact, I had an incredible stroke of luck to get the deal that I did, and that I must have cheated the system in some way. Therefore, governmental assistance isn’t available to me, but there may be an investigation, leading to possible criminal charges, about my “windfall” mortgage deal. Furthermore, to have qualified for getting my own personal mortgage bailout, English could not be my primary language, my annual income must be less than $35,000, the house I bought must have cost more than $500,000 and I can say “predatory lender” while tearing up and catching a sob in my throat while on camera.
Until the next time I feel brave enough to post, I bid you all a fondue (unless you’re lactose intolerant, then I bid you something completely different).
LCRM
884 Hawkeye // Dec 22, 2008 at 8:56 am
LCRM,
Welcome. I’m lactose intolerant, so you can wish me a “Merry Christmas”. Same to you, BTW.
885 Hawkeye // Dec 22, 2008 at 9:00 am
Ms RW #881,
I sent Scott an e-mail awhile back. Never got a response. Hopefully he’s enjoying his “me-time”.
886 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 22, 2008 at 11:28 am
Scott Ott and Family~~
Merry Christmas
and
God Bless You
887 Left Coast-Right Mind // Dec 22, 2008 at 11:48 am
Hawkeye,
Thank you kindly. And a Merry Christmas to you as well, along with a prosperous New Year besides (despite what the Gloom ‘n’ Doomers are predicting).
Be the exception[al] and not the rule.
888 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 22, 2008 at 11:51 am
Something that should be said more often.
I would also like to express my disfavor with the derisive commentary regarding American cars/trucks from all segments of the media. I do not understand the hatred.
889 Darthmeister // Dec 22, 2008 at 2:27 pm
Free Speech 101: First Amendment Under Assault at Majority of Liberal Universities.
Both private and public universities, BTW. This kind of free speech assault is really nothing new at these hollow-head halls of learning - it’s been going on since the Clintonista era.
890 Hawkeye // Dec 22, 2008 at 3:00 pm
To All:
I should check Twitter more often. Scott has posted a few notes…
Thinking of trying something new. 2:43 PM Dec 17th
shooting 2008 year-in-review segment on PJTV with Steve Green today. 10:12 AM Dec 18th
Shooting PJTV ‘What I Want for Christmas’ segment with Steve Green today. Yes, THE Steve Green of VodkaPundit.com 6:56 AM Dec 19th
Waiting in line at Wal-Mart. Growing beard. Feeling entropy. 12:21 PM Dec 19th
You can check-in yourself HERE.
891 Fred Sinclair // Dec 22, 2008 at 4:00 pm
Dear mralgore:
From DRUDGE today:
‘All parts of Canada’ may see first white Christmas since ‘71…
SEVERE COLD WAVE TO HIT EUROPE…
Beijing’s coldest December day in 57 years…
Personally I hope you get Life wpop for your HOAX.
You can fool some of the people all of the time.
You can fool all of the people some of the time.
But you can’t fool all of the people all of the time.
You should have known better.
892 mindknumbed kid // Dec 22, 2008 at 5:42 pm
Just in case I get too busy to post over the next few days, I wish to wish a wish for each of you here in the legendary land of Scrappletown, USA for a very Merry American Christmas. Whether ye be a person in your right mind, or not.
I also wish to express my thanks to the one who made this all possible. Thanks to Scott Ott I have made many wonderful acquaintances from all around the country, and my life has been changed for the better. I still tend to live inside of my shell, but this friendly little neighborhood has helped me to become a bolder person. I was too busy living my life and had just about given up all contemplative thinking. This forum has given me the opportunity to express things that I hope brings someone’s focus on God and his Son, whose birth we are celebrating in less than three days. I pray that the Holy Spirit of God has been able to use something I have written to minister to hearts and minds to bring us closer to our Creator.
And should this chapter close and we all go our ways over the course of time, may we never forget the time we have shared here.
893 mindknumbed kid // Dec 22, 2008 at 5:50 pm
All of this here globull warming is keeping us bundled up in Whynoming. Our heating bills are reflecting just how warm it ain’t been too.
The title of “scientist” isn’t necessarily an indication that someone is not a complete idiot, regardless of popular opinion…
And if engineers are so smart, then why is it that so many of us are forced to redesign so many things to make them work?
894 mindknumbed kid // Dec 22, 2008 at 8:14 pm
re#881 - Ms RightWing,Ink, Scott who?
895 mindknumbed kid // Dec 22, 2008 at 8:29 pm
The carbon police should be so pleased with the low emissions from my 2008 International. It hasn’t run but about a half an hour since way back on Dec. 11-teenth ! They finally took it away behind a tow truck Saturday, maybe the dealer can figure out what is ailing it now. Hope it comes back soon and is all better, I really like the truck.
896 RepublicanAttackMachine // Dec 22, 2008 at 10:58 pm
LCRM, You shouldn’t have waited so long to post, this one was VERY GOOD!
Fred, I thought about algore’s GW hoax while looking at the snow in Las Vegas.
Merry CHRISTmas to ALL and remember that if HE was never born then HE could not be the WONDERFUL SACRIFICE that is available to ALL OF US!
God bless and GOOD LUCK to Scott in whatever he may decide to do! It is because of you that I have met MANY wonderful people online I consider friends!
897 Left Coast-Right Mind // Dec 23, 2008 at 3:07 am
RepublicanAttackMachine,
Thank you so very much for the kind words. Apparently, I had a lot stored up. It’ll be my New Year’s Resolution to post more often so that I can avoid Vesuviating in the future.
(I’ll also resolve to stop making up words.)
But to all in the land of Scrappleface, I wish an exceedingly Merry Christmas, with a bright and shining New Year to follow.
898 camojack // Dec 23, 2008 at 5:11 am
Left Coast-Right Mind:
Excellent post #883…which is also the displacement in cc’s of a Harley Sportster model.
(The other being a 1200)
Keep it coming, while this place is still here.
All:
MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!
899 Fred Sinclair // Dec 23, 2008 at 5:28 am
Up until now I just THOUGHT things were getting weird. Now from Dec., 08 - “The Limbaugh Letter”
“We now have a Senate in which Teddy Kennedy is a moderate.”
What’s next? Will Barbie Boxer be ‘outed’ as secretly being a “closet hetrosexual”?
900 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 23, 2008 at 8:35 am
O the happiness of that one, who Hath not walked in the counsel of the wicked. And in the way of sinners hath not stood, And in the seat of scorners hath not sat;
~~Psalm 1:1
901 Fred Sinclair // Dec 23, 2008 at 11:57 am
Strange isn’t it, how a big deal was made of using “The Usurper Elect’s” middle name and even McCain forbid his staff from saying Barack Hussein Obama.
Yet when it comes to Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg - the MSM insists on using only Caroline Kennedy eschewing the use of her married (and legal) name.
That is the equivalent of only referring to The Usurper Elect as Barack Hussein. Yes? I wonder what Mr. Edwin Schlossberg. thinks about that? Perhaps being somewhat of a”girlieman” since he didn’t object when according to Wiki, Caroline didn’t change her name at marriage so I guess the MSM istechnically correcy on this???
902 da Bunny // Dec 23, 2008 at 1:08 pm
Good grief…#902! Wow! Scott has been gone from ScrappleFace almost as long as I have. Heh.
Merry Christmas and a Happy and Blessed New Year to all of my fellow Scrapplers!! I wish you all good health, much joy, and the peace that passes understanding.!!
Hi camo…I sent you an email.
903 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 23, 2008 at 1:12 pm
Yes, her middle name is Bouvier and she is a Kennedy. She is not a Schlossberg because she is ashamed.
904 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 23, 2008 at 5:33 pm
Something I found interesting but not surprising.
905 mindknumbed kid // Dec 23, 2008 at 8:47 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZB3BE_9w7o
906 mindknumbed kid // Dec 23, 2008 at 9:00 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-vTQqbofuM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_idg5Xxy6kE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBZiPRPogn0&feature=related
Jesus is the reason for every season.
907 mindknumbed kid // Dec 23, 2008 at 9:02 pm
Pushin’ - for 1000!
908 mindknumbed kid // Dec 23, 2008 at 9:04 pm
It is too cold in Whynoming! Pass it on to Al Gore…
909 mindknumbed kid // Dec 23, 2008 at 9:15 pm
Sounds of the season revisited…
http://www.scrappleface.com/?p=2830
910 mindknumbed kid // Dec 23, 2008 at 9:19 pm
From camojack on Dec. 7th -
mindknumbed kid // Dec 7, 2008 at 7:41 pm
My other theory is that Scott was abducted by camojack and taken to Costa Rica, or maybe he went along of his own free will. Interesting fact that camo’s posts ended on the 13th of November just as Scott’s stream of threads dried up. We know that camo has returned from his latest adventure, will Scott suddenly return and break this “silent treatment� The Shadow knows…
Channeling Sgt. Schultz: “I know nothing!â€
But at a guess, Scott will post something to commemorate Christmas, sooner or later…
911 mindknumbed kid // Dec 23, 2008 at 9:21 pm
camo - are you still holding to your theory?
912 Darthmeister // Dec 23, 2008 at 11:39 pm
From Charles at LGF:
The Barack Obama presidential transition office today finally released its own report on its own internal investigation of its own contacts with legally challenged Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich. And you’ll be comforted to know the Obama folks found no impropriety whatsoever by Obama folks.
So go back to wrapping holiday presents or pretending you’re working at your desk and checking out Obama’s important abs. All is well with the coming World of Change.
BTW, does anyone else think Congress might soon pass a new resolution making August 4th the second Christmas day of the year?
913 ChuckTX // Dec 24, 2008 at 8:37 am
Who’s the beefcakiest?
Obama?
Schwarzenegger?
Putin?
Kennedy?
Take the Shirtless Beefcake Pole at…
http://picwit.blogspot.com/
914 Darthmeister // Dec 24, 2008 at 10:12 am
Scientists Warn: Christmas lights harm planet…
Buwahahahahaha! Something else to blame the West and Christians for! Maybe all the hot air from the Global Warming cultists are harming the planet more, ya think?
Tapes: Rahm Did Talk To Governor about Senate Seat
Oh, really, after all the Obama denials? Say it ain’t so!
Springsteen says Bush hate fueled new album…
Such honesty is so refreshing. I guess Springsteen was a hatemongering moonbat all along despite his previous denials.
WIRE: Bush’s Legacy May End Up Better Than You Think…
Not as long as the present biased national socialist media has anything to say about it. Where do ya think 70% of Americans get their
newspropaganda anyway?915 onlineanalyst // Dec 24, 2008 at 11:34 am
In Hoc Domini, originally published in 1949, is a Christmas message republished every year since at the WSJ. It is a tiding of the real triumph of hope.
Merry Christmas to all of our fellow Scrapplers!
916 Darthmeister // Dec 24, 2008 at 11:41 am
Phillipe Sands: The Fisking of a Dishonest Journalist
Why am I not surprised by such shameless journalistic dishonesty in this day and age?
917 Darthmeister // Dec 24, 2008 at 11:43 am
… cyber attack … or global warming!
918 onlineanalyst // Dec 24, 2008 at 12:33 pm
Oops! I left a word out of the title of the essay mentioned above. The title is In Hoc Anno Domini- “In This Year of the Lord”.
919 Fred Sinclair // Dec 24, 2008 at 2:21 pm
A Christmas Prayer
by Robert Louis Stevenson
Loving Father,
Help us remember the birth of Jesus,
that we may share in the song of the angels,
the gladness of the shepherds,
and worship of the wise men.
Close the door of hate
and open the door of love all over the world.
Let kindness come with every gift
and good desires with every greeting.
Deliver us from evil by the blessing
which Christ brings,
and teach us to be merry with clear hearts.
May the Christmas morning
make us happy to be thy children,
and Christmas evening bring us to our beds
with grateful thoughts,
forgiving and forgiven,
for Jesus’ sake.
Amen.
According to the Fourth Chapter of Judges, God used the highly unlikely man named Barak to save Israel. Amazing story worth rereading (Judges 4:1 - 6:24)
The tent peg through the rug and temple (through and into the ground beneath) is quite a story in it’s own right.
“For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts”. (Isa. 55:8,9 - KJV)
So only God knows what plans He has in store for our new President (but I am instructed to pray for him - as I shall.)
920 Beerme // Dec 24, 2008 at 3:55 pm
Merry Christmas to all!
I’ll tip a homebrewed beer to that!
921 mindknumbed kid // Dec 24, 2008 at 8:45 pm
My associates have also cleared myself and all known associates of any wrongdoing. I can now say that I am not guilty of any impropriety, and I am so relieved…
922 mindknumbed kid // Dec 24, 2008 at 11:54 pm
You gotta figure that they were scapin’ the bottom of the barrel when they came beggin’ for me to lead the singing for the Christmas Eve service tonight…
Merry Christmas everybody, may your day be exceedingly joyful!
923 nylecoj // Dec 25, 2008 at 1:25 am
Merry Christmas everyone
924 RedRum151 // Dec 25, 2008 at 11:04 am
Merry Christmas
Joyeux Noel
Buone Feste Natalizie
Feliz Navidad
God Jul
Vesele Vianoce.
925 Ms RightWing, Ink // Dec 25, 2008 at 11:08 am
Merry Christmas one and all Scrapplers.
And to Scott-Merry Christmas to you and your wonderful family, wherever you/they are.
926 Darthmeister // Dec 25, 2008 at 11:21 am
Merry Christmas to one and all … Feliz Navidad to our neighbors to the south.
Peace on Earth to people of goodwill in these coming years!
927 Fred Sinclair // Dec 25, 2008 at 6:15 pm
If they celebrated Christmas in the days of the Apostle Paul, you would have heard”Kala Kristuyanah” (Kris-tu-ya-nah)
They still say it in Greece, even today.
928 Fred Sinclair // Dec 25, 2008 at 6:18 pm
pushing
929 Hawkeye // Dec 26, 2008 at 1:28 pm
Wishing everyone the Very Best. I hope your Christmas was joyful, and I’m praying that your year ahead will be blessed with health, happiness, prosperity, inner peace, and whatever else you personally may be praying for.
And to you trolls… I wish you the same! (What did you think I was going to say?)
930 RepublicanAttackMachine // Dec 27, 2008 at 2:33 am
I know I am asking for it by posting this, but here goes.
Has anyone noticed that for about a week there have been no troll sightings? I have a feeling that it may be for a couple of reasons.
The one that makes the most sense though is, that since they have completed their “mission” to destroy this site, (with help from me and others that, “took the bait”), they have no more reason to post.
It also may be because we have posted positive posts about Christmas and stayed away from the political arena. They certainly wouldn’t want to argue about Christmas, would they? (except for the few that have already shown they hate Jesus and most of us do not respond to them anyway!)
The last reason I can think of is, that some of their lives are so empty at this time of year, they are just wallowing in their sorrow.
Instead of taking delight in this, I ask that we ALL pray for them, NO MATTER the reason!
It is what GOD commands us to do anyway!
Have a very blessed New Year ALL!
931 RepublicanAttackMachine // Dec 27, 2008 at 2:51 am
Some of you may know this, but some may not. I do because I am a movie buff, at least old time movies.
Two of my favorites are “White Christmas” and “It’s a Wonderful Life”. A cameo by an actor you might not expect, was in both of these movies.
Alfalfa of the “Little Rascals”! In “White Christmas” he is not listed even at IMDB, maybe because in some cut versions of the movie, the only time you see him is when one of his sisters, (Vera or Rosemary), shows Bing and Danny a picture of him when they first meet.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0842813/
He was also In “The Defiant Ones” and played a slave in “The Ten Commandments”. “Carl” was also a busboy in “Pat and Mike” starring Spenser Tracy and Katherine Hepburn. A very funny movie! “Kate” kicks Charles Bronson’s butt in this, but it WAS before “Deathwish” though!
932 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 27, 2008 at 8:25 am
Mmm. Vedy eenteresteenk…..
933 Fred Sinclair // Dec 27, 2008 at 12:32 pm
This came in late, but pretty well sums it up.
To My Democrat Friends:
Please accept with no obligation, implied or implicit, my best wishes for an environmentally conscious, socially responsible, low-stress, non-addictive, gender-neutral celebration of the winter solstice holiday, practiced within the most enjoyable traditions of the religious persuasion of your choice, or secular practices of your choice, with respect for the religious/secular persuasion and/or traditions of others, or their choice not to practice religious or secular traditions at all. I also wish you a fiscally successful, personally fulfilling and medically uncomplicated recognition of the onset of the generally accepted calendar year 2009, but not without due respect for the calendars of choice of other cultures whose contributions to society have helped make America great, not to imply that America is necessarily greater than any other country nor the only America in the Western Hemisphere. Also, this wish is made without regard to the race, creed, color, age, physical ability, religious faith, or sexual preference of the wishee.
To My Republican Friends:
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
934 Fred Sinclair // Dec 27, 2008 at 12:34 pm
././././.
935 Darthmeister // Dec 27, 2008 at 5:12 pm
Why not let liberals suffer under the follies of “Democratic” socialism while the rest of us are spared such an ignoble fate?
Quite an interesting political commentary which pits free market libertarianism against the economic militancy of quasi-religious liberal socialism.
936 Fred Sinclair // Dec 28, 2008 at 4:40 am
With yesterday’s IDF strikes I found this interesting….
In an article in the English-language edition of the London Arabic-language daily Al-Hayat, columnist and former editor of the paper Jihad Al-Khazen claims that Israeli political military leaders are actually grandsons of Nazi killers who assumed Jewish identities and fled to Israel.
The following are excerpts from the article: [1]
“Is it Logical for the Survivors of the Holocaust and Their Descendants to Do What the Nazis had Done to Them?”
“Ehud Olmert’s government perpetrates definite Nazi practices against the Palestinians and the Lebanese. He is a young Führer, and his generals, like Dan Halutz and Moshe Kaplinsky, are commando generals. The question now is: Is it logical for the survivors of the Holocaust and their descendants to do what the Nazis had done to them?
“There is a psychological explanation for this: the victim impersonates the torturer.
INTERESTING is the fact that out of their own mouth, they claim and maintain that the Holocaust never happened, and the Nazis did nothing to the Jews.
The former editor of the paper Jihad Al-Khazen and B. Hussein Obama appear to have taken the “Handling ‘Truth’ - 101″ class together. They must have passed the class with honors since they seem equally adept in “Handling” truth.
937 Fred Sinclair // Dec 28, 2008 at 6:48 am
Unfortunately my tears cannot make it through the internet.
As I understand it the religious members of the “Religion of Peace” have merely been following the fundamental duty of their religion insofar as their incessant rocket attacks into Southern Israel are Allah Anointed that they murder and injure as many of the Heathen Joooss as possible.
One pundit’s comment:
The Foreign Affairs spokesman for the Liberal Democrat Party, Ed Davey, described the Israeli strikes in Gaza as “disproportionate and unacceptable.”
How dare these Miserable Pig Joooss interrupt the Hammas in the practicing of their religious duties!!! They’re only following orders.
The followers of the “religion of peace” are simply following the instructions of Allah. Just how religious can you get?
Possibly semi-low yield nuclear strikes around Gaza (say a dozen or so) might get their attention?
As I read, it was about 700 years ago when the then current equivalent of semi-low yield nuclear strikes was rained down on the practitioners of the “religion of peace”. They scurried back into their ‘hidey-holes to plan and plot their triumphant return and now they’re back!
They’re taking over one country after another from within with their sheer numbers bwo large families (their plan is to outbreed the rest of the world): read Mark Steyn’s “America Alone”.
While they’re at it they might as well go ahead with 50 - 100 semi-low yield nuclear strikes over in Iran, in and around their (Iran’s) Nuclear Development Program. As a Christian Jew (by adoption) I think that would not be “disproportionate and unacceptable.â€
“disproportionate and unacceptable.†would depend on who you talked to. Those are negative words - “proportionate and acceptable.†are more positive and appropriate.
Since they are for the most part not of the elect. It would be no more than Jericho revisited. God would save those that He wills to be saved - like Rahab the prostitute. The rest, like the inhabitants of Jericho would just cease to exist.
938 Fred Sinclair // Dec 28, 2008 at 8:12 pm
What recession? A MSM created one at best!
Overall, it’s looking like a jolly $190 million 3-day weekend, up 5% from last year. Here are very early numbers for the Top 10 with Oscar-buzzed films below:
1. Marley And Me (20th Century Fox)
$37M 3-day weekend… $51.6M 4-day holiday
2. The Curious Case Of Benjamin Button (Paramount)
$27.2M 3-day weekend… $39M 4-day holiday
3. Bedtime Stories (Disney)
$28.1M 3-day weekend… $38.6M 4-day holiday
4. Valkyrie (MGM/UA)
$21.5M 3-day weekend… $30M 4-day holiday
5. Yes Man (Warner Bros)
$16.5M 3-day weekend… $22.4M 4-day holiday6. Seven Pounds (Sony)
$13.4M 3-day weekend… $18.2M 4-day holiday
7. The Tale of Despereaux (Universal)
$9.4M 3-day weekend… $11.4M 4-day holiday
8. The Day the Earth Stood Still (20th Century Fox)
$7.9M 3-day weekend… $10.6M 4-day holiday
9. The Spirit (Lionsgate)
$6.5M 3-day weekend… $10.3M 4-day holiday
10. Doubt (Miramax)
$5.7M weekend… $7.1M 4-day holiday
939 everthink // Dec 29, 2008 at 1:16 pm
“I’m honored to shake the hand of a brave Iraqi citizen who had his hand cut off by Saddam Hussein.”
G.W. Bush -Washington, D.C., May 25, 2004
940 everthink // Dec 29, 2008 at 3:55 pm
“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.” —President George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004
ET
941 nylecoj // Dec 29, 2008 at 5:47 pm
Heh comment re-runs, is that like the TV re-runs we get during Christmas vacation?
942 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 29, 2008 at 8:29 pm
Is it a coincidence that I spotted THIS in my Twits (I have Twitbin in the left sidebar of my browser, it’s pretty cool) which sent me HERE?
“I don’t believe in ‘coincidence.’”~~Jethro Gibbs
943 mindknumbed kid // Dec 29, 2008 at 8:42 pm
I have two hands! One on each arm! Is this common?
944 mindknumbed kid // Dec 29, 2008 at 8:59 pm
If you live in California and voted yes on 8, you are said to have voted to “take away the rights” of gays, but as a California citizen have you not also voted to take away your own rights in the very same way? Couldn’t you wake up in five years and “discover” that you are gay also?
945 Fred Sinclair // Dec 30, 2008 at 8:33 am
mkk # 944 (944? Whew!)
I’ll take my chances - the odds of my awakening in five years are already slim and awakening to find that I was gay also - the odds on that are roughly equal my learning that the “manmade” part of “Manmade Global Warming” is true after all. i.e. Slim and none and Slim done left town.
This has been around before but it sounds like a good plan.
HOW TO INSTALL A HOME SECURITY SYSTEM IN THE SOUTH
1. Go to a second-hand store and buy a pair of men’s used work boots, size 14-16.
2. Place them on your front porch, along with a copy of Guns and Ammo and your NRA magazines.
3. Put a giant dog dish next to the boots and magazine.
4. Leave a note on your door that reads:
†Hey Bubba: Big Mike, Slim, Tiny and I went for more ammo. Back in an hour. Don’t mess with the pit bulls. They attacked the mailman this morning and messed him up pretty bad. I don’t think Killer took part in it but I locked all four of them in the house. Better wait outsideâ€
946 camojack // Dec 30, 2008 at 11:42 am
mindknumbed kid // Dec 23, 2008 at 9:21 pm
camo - are you still holding to your theory?
It was merely a guess…and apparently an erroneous one.
I’ve been incommunicado lately due to an ailing “confuser”; fortunately Santa Claus brought me a new laptop, but I have yet to configure it. I’m currently visiting my brother & company in Greensboro, NC so I’m using his laptop at the moment…
947 Ms RightWing, Ink // Dec 30, 2008 at 1:20 pm
A SHORT BUT POIGNANT HOLIDAY APOLOGY-AND A RATHER BIT LATE AT THAT
This does nothing to explain Scott’s silence but it may explain my sad shape of affairs at the little cafe on the corner of Donothing and Tardy.
http://shellyscafe.blogspot.com/
948 BlackLion31U // Dec 30, 2008 at 2:44 pm
“Lawrence Wilkerson, top aide and later chief of staff to former Secretary of State Colin Powell, said that as a new president, Bush was like Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, the 2008 GOP vice presidential nominee whom critics said lacked knowledge about foreign affairs. When Bush first came into office, he was surrounded by experienced advisers like Vice President Dick Cheney and Powell, who Wilkerson said ended up playing damage control for the president.
“It allowed everybody to believe that this Sarah Palin-like president — because, let’s face it, that’s what he was — was going to be protected by this national-security elite, tested in the cauldrons of fire,” Wilkerson said, adding that he considered Cheney probably the “most astute, bureaucratic entrepreneur” he’d ever met.
“He became vice president well before George Bush picked him,” Wilkerson said of Cheney. “And he began to manipulate things from that point on, knowing that he was going to be able to convince this guy to pick him, knowing that he was then going to be able to wade into the vacuums that existed around George Bush — personality vacuum, character vacuum, details vacuum, experience vacuum.”
(BL31U) - I knew Bush was just the puppet and Cheney was the evil puppet master!
On other topics, David Kuo, who served as deputy director of the White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives, disputed the idea that the Bush White House was dominated by religious conservatives and catered to the needs of a religious right voting bloc.
“The reality in the White House is — if you look at the most senior staff — you’re seeing people who aren’t personally religious and have no particular affection for people who are religious-right leaders,” Kuo said.
“In the political affairs shop in particular, you saw a lot of people who just rolled their eyes at … basically every religious-right leader that was out there, because they just found them annoying and insufferable. These guys were pains in the butt who had to be accommodated.”
(BL31U) - I have to admit this one surprises me. Does this mean that the White House staff were not actually spiritually guided? But in fact were annoyed by the religious right leaders?
Those hypocrites!!!!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/bush_advisers_speak_out
949 BlackLion31U // Dec 30, 2008 at 2:51 pm
The Detroit Lions 0-16. The worst football team EVER…kinda reminds me of the Bush Presidency. Whew…sure glad the seasons over.
950 Ms RightWing, Ink // Dec 30, 2008 at 5:51 pm
Just got a phone call from a friend and she is taking me to see the Trans Siberian Orchestra tonight!!!!!!!!
Her son decided not to go. What’s wrong with him, duh.
This is definitely my belated Christmas gift.
951 mindknumbed kid // Dec 30, 2008 at 8:56 pm
Wow! That is really great news for you Ms RightWing! I could get downright envious and start thinking Al Gore is on to something…
As for her son, well, he’s an idiot. But that is good for you! I would like to go see Mannheim Steamroller someday, wish wish wish.
Fred, re#945 - I’d say the odds are even greater than that… but still the point is that it applies to all citizens of the state, not just the happy folks…
952 nylecoj // Dec 30, 2008 at 9:00 pm
Ms. RW,
That is awesome. I love TSO! I still have not seen them in concert. A couple of years ago I was heading across to Seattle to go and my heater core burst. Luckily I had email copies of the tickets so I was able to forward them to the friend that was joining me so that he could still go.
953 mindknumbed kid // Dec 30, 2008 at 9:00 pm
Even though I was already logged in, Wordpress kept giving me an error every time I hit the submit-ion button, so I logged in again and it let me talk, strange, very strange…
And I still have a hand on each of my arms, which when numbered, are two!
954 mindknumbed kid // Dec 30, 2008 at 9:10 pm
Oh nylecoj, that story made me feel sad and yet in the end, warm and fuzzy! Is Scott’s absence causing me to morph into a some sort of mindkless liberal? Oh no…a sudden urge to listen to Barry Manilow!!!
Somebody please help me…Scott - can you hear me???
955 Ms RightWing, Ink // Dec 31, 2008 at 2:48 am
It was a majorly cool concert—the music, the lights and costumes. Man they never stood still for a moment, way to much energy for one person.
I will not soon forget this evening, though we were in the nosebleed section of the Gund (Cavaliers home turf). I like to never make it up all the steps. But, the good thing was the light show was better when seen from above.
The TSO started in Cleveland 10 years ago and tonight was their last concert of the year-in Cleveland, of course.
956 Never Yet Melted » Third in a Series // Dec 31, 2008 at 9:16 am
[...] Scrappleface reports that, while waiting for the inauguration, Barack Obama is working on another memoir. This one will chronicle his days in the Senate. [...]
957 Darthmeister // Dec 31, 2008 at 11:33 am
Minnesota Recount Folly.
Demoncrats steal another election. Told ya’ so. No Republican lead is safe in a Democrat-controlled recount. Shades of 2004 Washington state governor’s race.
Wake up America. The highest office in the land is sold to the highest bidder who still hasn’t proven he’s a “natural born” citizen and endless recounts magically favors Democrats as unsecured ballots are “discovered”, voting machines found in the trunks of Democrat cars, ballots from heavily Democratic precincts are double-counted, and ballots with the exact markings (filled in circle with what looks like an “X” placed through it) are disallowed for the Republican candidate while counted for the Democrat!
Move along folks, don’t worry about the man behind the curtain!
958 everthink // Dec 31, 2008 at 9:12 pm
19 days!
ET
959 nylecoj // Dec 31, 2008 at 11:26 pm
MKK Re #954
No anything but that!
960 JamesonLewis3rd // Jan 1, 2009 at 8:07 am
Happy New Year!
God Bless You and Yours
961 onlineanalyst // Jan 1, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Happy New Year, all!
Check out the funny video of the last year’s events set to seasonal song: http://sarah-palin-2012.blogspot.com/2008/12/2008-in-photos-and-verse.html
Come back, Scott. We dearly miss you.
962 mindknumbed kid // Jan 1, 2009 at 10:13 pm
Happy New Year!
963 onlineanalyst // Jan 2, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Fresh off his tiny bubbles Hawaiian getaway, Obama is ready to face a media ready to ask harder questions than how did THE ONE achieve those adorable pecs. To see how Obama reacts to questions of any substance, check out the video embed: http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/01/obama_dont_ask_me_no_questions.asp
Now, that’s openness and transparency we can look forward to. The world can’t wait. Heh!
964 JamesonLewis3rd // Jan 2, 2009 at 7:17 pm
965 mindknumbed kid // Jan 2, 2009 at 7:43 pm
Psalm 120:7
I am for peace: but when I speak, they are for war.
966 Fred Sinclair // Jan 2, 2009 at 11:03 pm
Taking our rightful place among the world’s MAJOR COUNTRIES!!! Thanks to Mark Steyn (filling in for Rush today)
Algeria;
Armenia;
Azerbaijan;
Bahrain;
Chad;
Cyprus;
Egypt;
Iran;
Iraq;
Israel;
Jordan;
Kuwait;
Kyrgyzstan;
Lebanon;
Libya;
Mali’
Mauritania;
Morocco;
Niger;
Oman;
Pakistan;
Palestine
Quatar;
Saudi Arabia;
Sudan;
Syria;
Tajikstan;
Tunisia;
Turkey;
Turkmenistan;
United Arab Emirates;
United States of Bailoutistan;
Uzbekistan;
Western Sahara;
Yemen.
967 Fred Sinclair // Jan 2, 2009 at 11:20 pm
I’ve managed to better my 4 minutes time - latest is no down to 3:23 - yesterday was 3:41.
TAKE THE MIDDLE EAST GEOGRAPHY QUIZ
Drag the country’s name onto the map. There is no humbling score or
time limit, but rather this exercise is a learning tool. Don’t be afraid to
make an error, and once you finish the puzzle, you will be far more
educated about this very intense part of our world.
http://www.rethinkingschools.org/just_fun/games/mapgame.html
968 Left Coast-Right Mind // Jan 3, 2009 at 12:15 am
I have returned from my Christmas/New Year’s hiatus. My fervent hope is that all your 2009’s have begun blessed and will remain so straight through till 2010. Oh heck, let’s get greedy and say until the midterm elections.
969 Fred Sinclair // Jan 3, 2009 at 12:46 am
Mark Steyn - (with tongue-in-cheek) mentioned to a former speech writer for President Reagan that “Canada’s Socialized Health Care has a 10 month waiting period for the maternity ward” replied, “Reagan would have loved that line.”
Philadelphia, PA has more MRI (Magnetic Resonance Imaging) machines that all of Canada. Need a hip replacement and you’re overweight? “Denied, you should have known better than to eat your way into obesity”. Need a lung transplant and you are or ever were a smoker? “Denied, you should have known better than to smoke.”
Have a brain tumor? 9 month waiting list for an MRI (Magnetic Resonance Imaging) - Brain tumor surgery necessary? There’s a 16 month waiting list. (Believe it or not) One man’s wife (I have the video) drove him across the border into the United States, his MRI (Magnetic Resonance Imaging) WAS DONE IN TO DAYS. Surgery was scheduled to remove a golf ball sized tumor from his brain. Now he’s back home in Canada. Surgery was successful (he made the video, to warn Americans about the potential horrors of Universal/Socialized Health Care).
A Canadian about to be mother tried to get admitted into hospital, There were zero beds in maternity wards across all of Canada - she had to be flown with a nurse and respirator across the Rocky Mountains to Great Falls, MT where her triplets were born (does that make the triplets - American Citizens?).
If you think Health Care is expensive now????? Just wait until it’s free!
If you do not have Mark Steyn’s book “AMERICA ALONE - The end of the world as we know it” do yourself a favor and get your copy and read it.
970 Fred Sinclair // Jan 3, 2009 at 12:48 am
oops that should be TWO not TO.
971 Fred Sinclair // Jan 3, 2009 at 2:30 am
Good news is always welcome - I hope Scott doesn’t mind my posting this. - Waxless Fred
On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Fred Sinclair wrote:
Dear scott - A Happy New Year to you Sir, good to see you’re still around. You are on my prayer list and I pray for you daily.
If finances was part of your absence from ScrappleFace - I just got a cola increase in my SS check - if it’ll help, I’ll restart my $25.00 to you & ScrappleFace, since I can better handle it now. - Waxless Fred
Fred,
Please use your COLA for you own care. The Lord takes care of me in other ways. I have been very active these past weeks – not only with camp and family activities, but with plans for the future of ScrappleFace. We’re going to try some new things, hope not to chase away all my existing readers, and perhaps reach some new friends. I’m really seeking the Lord’s guidance in a number of areas and appreciate your prayers that He would grant me wisdom beyond my years and skill beyond my experience. Above all …. that I would glorify Jesus with my life.
Alive in Christ,
Scott Ott
For Scott’s sake and our sake - please pray for Scott.
972 Fred Sinclair // Jan 3, 2009 at 11:25 am
Most parents would not….
At least I would hope and pray that most parents would nor voluntarily and willfully pack up their children and send them abroad - to China, where they would be enrolled for a 12 year education, in a Chinese Communist “Education or Re-education Campâ€.
Thoroughly indoctrinated, Imbued with, and steeped in the Communist way of servitude to the state they then return to the family. Jennifer Granholm, Carl Levin, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi and B. Hussein Obama stand as models of what kind of a kid you’d get back.
And yet, generally unknowing and in many cases, not caring, all too many parents send their children off to “learn†in the American Public Schools of today. Perhaps not much more than a tiny fraction in differing from the Chinese school experience.
If I had children today, I would forgo anything and everything, if necessary to ensure my kids were either enrolled in a Private School that I trusted or were Home schooled by my wife and I.
One hour a week in Sunday school cannot very well compete with twelve school years of liberal, socialistic indoctrination that today’s Public Schools are dishing out.
973 conserve-a-tip // Jan 3, 2009 at 12:15 pm
Helloooo? Yes. I still exist. Stopping in to say Happy New Year to all of the Scrapplers and to Scott. It’s been a crazy 2008 and I anticipate 2009 to be even crazier, but heh, it’s what keeps life interesting! Love you guys!
CAT
974 RedPepper // Jan 3, 2009 at 1:16 pm
Hi there, c-a-t ! Happy New Year to you, too ! Don’t be a stranger …
975 conserve-a-tip // Jan 3, 2009 at 1:40 pm
Redpepper: Thanks. Never a stranger - but maybe a little strange.
976 Ms RightWing, Ink // Jan 3, 2009 at 1:58 pm
I want to ask the Scrapplers to pray for me today. I tangled with some black mold so now I have a nasty lung infection that is doing me in big times. I went to the doctor yesterday to get antibiotics and some other medicine the state won’t pay for without approval which could take days. Folks, this is what life will be like for the insured under Obama. You need medicine–then you will have to wait and see if you are worthy in the sight of Uncle Sam to receive such.
It is not the medicine that upset me. I was going through my e-mails last night while struggling to breathe when I came across a “Zodiac” e-mail which stated that if I didn’t pass it on something bad would happen. This was sent via a Scrappler.
True my health is worse today but nothing could happen that didn’t filter through the Lord’s hand’s. But I sincerely ask you why would someone pass on a pseudo-warning of bad tidings. A person of weaker faith could be devastated by such a pile of tripe if their health turned in the wrong direction.
I won’ t mention any names but I will say that we as God’s ambassadors (if we claim to be such) should never, never, take such a threat to one’s being and pass it on.
I have seen the numerous phony blessings stating if you pass this or that on–for Pete sakes, God doesn’t need a two bit e-mail to bless somebody–He was doing it for millenniums before the Internet and He will bless people will long after the Internet is seen as passe as Lincoln Logs.
If I live or if I die it will not be because of an e-mail. Now I must go suck up a bunch more medicines and get dressed (sigh). If I am wrong for making others angry because of what I penned, then forgive me. But if I am right, then please be aware of of you pass on and where it may end up at.
I pass blessings of good health in Jesus name to all who read this (and you can pass that on!)
977 conserve-a-tip // Jan 3, 2009 at 2:22 pm
Oops. Where’d my post go? Let’s try it again.
MsRightwing, Ink: Black mold is such a nasty, nasty thing. It causes so many awful problems. I am so sorry to hear about your difficulties.
I liken the “chain mail” emails to theologies like that of Joel Osteen that promises material prosperity if one just believes and asks hard enough. If that were the case, then Paul did something terribly wrong. It messes with people’s minds and faith and attempts to place a control into man’s hands that is really solely in God’s hands.
Let me know if you need anything. You know where to find me.
CAT
978 mindknumbed kid // Jan 3, 2009 at 8:23 pm
Ms RightWing - I guess it is too late to warn you to avoid black mold. But curiosity has taken control and I am wondering how on earth you came in contact with such nasty stuff. I should just be praying that the effects of it will be quickly obliterated. I also deplore those stupid emails that promise something good to happen if you forward it to a gazzillion friends, and no matter how “good” they are I just hit delete. I want a gimmick free existence, there is plenty of work to be done as Christians than to waste time with a lot of that mumbo-jumbo. Perhaps it was sent along as a joke? I can’t imagine the reason, anyhow, I will quit typing a try to do more praying.
979 Ms RightWing, Ink // Jan 3, 2009 at 10:17 pm
Mkk
The black mold came through a very concentrated object that I should have checked on, but often time gets away from me and I forget things.
I use a c-pap machine as do thousands, er millions of other people. Once upon a time I checked the filters and disposed of them as necessary. I must explain our apartments are very dusty and it is a bad environment for asthma or any other type of COPD, so changing or cleaning filters is very important around here.
I neglected doing that and the dust, dander and environmental dust soon turned black, very black and moldy-maybe because I use a high moisture setting on my humidifier in the winter and NE Ohio is always muggy in the summer.
Who knows exactly why but every time I used my machine lately I felt congested, so I quit. Out of guilt I used it last week and woke up around 4 a.m. really congested and it has only became worse since then. Right now, I feel very close to calling paramedics.
My air purifier gets clogged with gray dust, which we have a lot of. Why the c-pap got black? Perhaps because there is moisture from my oxygen concentrator-but the humidifier should not pass through the filter.
I don’t know where it came from. That is my best answer. I am still waiting for new filters from Visiting Nurses via UPS, umm stil waiting.
980 mindknumbed kid // Jan 3, 2009 at 11:50 pm
Hang in there, but if you need help don’t hesitate to get it. Is there any where better for you to live? For some reason we have way more dust in our house than I think there should be, I even put an extra filter on the cold air returns to my furnace. Prayers continuing for you, make sure you update us when you can.
981 Ms RightWing, Ink // Jan 4, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Off to ER
982 Darthmeister // Jan 4, 2009 at 5:51 pm
WASHINGTON (AP) - New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson on Sunday announced that he was withdrawing his nomination to be President-elect Barack Obama’s commerce secretary amid a grand jury investigation into how some of his political donors won a lucrative state contract.
Richardson’s withdrawal was the first disruption of Obama’s Cabinet process and the second “pay-to-play” investigation that has touched Obama’s transition to the presidency. The president-elect has remained above the fray in both the case of arrested Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich and the New Mexico case.
The national socialist media is now being forced to reveal the real party of corruption - to their dismay, I’m sure.
It’s my guess the fawning liberal media will see to it that Obama “remain(s) above the fray” with their new smoke-and-mirror agenda to keep their messiah spotless before the adoring crowds on the left.
It’s amazing the number of libtard media stories here in the People’s Republic of Illinois that have been printed opining how remarkable it is that Obamessiah has been able to swim the sewers of Chicago politics yet remain pure as the wind-driven snow. Yeah, right.
Liberals love living in their house of cards made comfortable with the window dressing of positive if not fawning reporting of like-minded liberal sycophants in the NSM … a total echo chamber scenario. Of course this explains how it is liberals end up endlessly mocking Republicans/conservatives while believing their Democrat/liberal pals are such noble and honorable saints who never lie, cheat, or engage in political corruption.
You watch, when Obamessiah begins to impose his radical and controversial agenda, those who have engaged in divisive partisan hate the last seven years will start hypocritically whining, “Can’t we all just get along?” or “Can’t we all unite to make America a better place?”
Of couse implied in all this, if things don’t get better, is it will be Republicans’/conservatives’ fault because of our “unwillingness to unite and embrace a progressive agenda” that would lead us to the Promise Land.
LIBERAL LEXICON:
compassion: empowering government to take from the haves to give to the have-nots, to take from those most financially efficient to give to the most financially inefficient. The greatest act of compassion is electing progressive politicians willing to redistribute the wealth of “the rich” so that everyone is
equally miserable“equal”.BTW, 75% of the American people believe the national socialist media has deepened the economic meltdown because of their incessant, hysterical, partisan coverage of the financial downturn. But never fear, once Obamessiah because MOTUS, the liberal media will start handing out the rose-colored glasses. And if any problem is too big to ignore … IT’S BUSH’S FAULT! Forget Reid, Pelosi, Maxine Waters, Barney Fwank, et al.
983 onlineanalyst // Jan 4, 2009 at 6:39 pm
Darthmeister: It appears that Obama has some political contributions from Norman Hsu, the notorious bundler who was adding to Hillary Clinton’s war chest, too.
Meanwhile, if you dig around the old ‘Net, you will find that someone other than Obama is paying the taxes on his Hyde Park home. You won’t be surprised who that might be.
When Rezko finagled that fantastic deal for the Obamas, Patti Blagojevich was the go-to realtor.
How oblivious is Obama to what is going on around himself? Talk about living in a bubble, aided by an incurious press.
984 onlineanalyst // Jan 4, 2009 at 7:07 pm
There is something peculiar when Leftist-Marxist-influenced organizations like International ANSWER and Code Pink join forces with Islamic jihadist groups like Hamas to rally on behalf of “Palestinians” in Gaza.
There are no such critters as “Palestinians”. These people are Jordanians. Neither Jordan nor Egypt nor Saudi Arabia wants these malcontents who do not know how to live in peace with their neighbors. “Palestinians” lob rockets indiscriminately into Israel because they are determined to destroy her.
The “Palestinians” are dupes in a proxy war that Iran is provoking. The “Palestinians” preach hatred to their children from infancy and dedicate those children to a culture of death by strapping bombs on them in order to serve as maryrs.
What is further peculiar is that Obama is now also an object of hatred for the jihadists. Check out the events in Indonesia: http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2009/01/022468.php
When the Lefties finally realize that we are engaged in a clash between Western values and Islamic hegemony, maybe they will discontinue allying themselves with Marxist groups that aim to destroy our culture and economic system the same way. No amount of negotiation will bring about peace with those who are implacable in forcing their religion or their economic system on us.
Dress up the nonsense by calling it a religion of peace, or progressivism, or saving the planet, the object of all is the enslavement of free people and the seizure of power by the self-anointed elite.
Obama had better realize that as President, he is charged with protecting our nation and not with being Citizen of the World. Many in the world do not like us…for whatever rationalization they may have created. Those are the facts of life.
We may differ, but we do not have to defer.
985 Darthmeister // Jan 4, 2009 at 7:49 pm
Remember how the Bush-haters said if a “progressive” Democrat was elected President how the Arabs and the rest of the world would respect and love America again?
Well, I guess the honeymoon is over before it begins.
Taking a cue from the barking moonbat Bush-haters/America-blamers here in America, Arabs now blame America for Israel’s pre-emptive attack against rabid dog Palestinian terrorists by mocking Obambi in one of their patented Islamic-street hate parades.
BTW, as noted by the folks at Powerline, the cigarette was a nice touch. I guess mocking The One in this manner makes those in Jakarta racists, uhn?
986 Darthmeister // Jan 4, 2009 at 9:40 pm
Charity Homes Built by Hollyweird and Jimmy Carter Start to Crumble.”
Figures. Well, they meant well, right? And because liberals were bankrolling this they’ll get a pass. Can you imagine the media outrage for weeks on end if Republicans or conservative construction companies were involved in such shoddy construction practices? I can.
This story will last all of two days and then be forgotten by the national socialist media.
987 Ms RightWing, Ink // Jan 4, 2009 at 10:39 pm
Back home again!
988 mindknumbed kid // Jan 5, 2009 at 12:40 am
Praise God! Hope you are feelin’ mighty fine now. Most likely will take a while to get to feelin’ right, give us a shout tomorrow if you are up to it.
We are going to push this thread over the 1000 mark yet!
989 camojack // Jan 5, 2009 at 2:02 am
mindknumbed kid // Jan 5, 2009 at 12:40 am
We are going to push this thread over the 1000 mark yet!
It certainly appears that way…only eleventeen to go.
990 Ms RightWing, Ink // Jan 5, 2009 at 3:49 am
mindknumbed kid
The truth of the matter it is healthier to be home than it is to to be in the hospital. The doctor (not mine) thought I would surely get pneumonia if they admitted me so they gave me both steroids and another steroid type (kenalog) shot plus a few breathing treatments.
Man that mold sure tore up my breathing system. My hopes are the doctor was right. I truly do think the hospital is the place to get sick.
Now only 10 comments to go to 1000teenth
991 RepublicanAttackMachine // Jan 5, 2009 at 4:12 am
I guess elections can be stolen, but by libs, NOT Republicans, as the shrieking libs have screamed in the past!
First Obama, with the help from ACORN and other libs, now al frankenstein.
Story here: http://news.aol.com/article/panel-to-name-franken-senate-winner/292894
Another story, (oddly enough also from AOL), is about the TRUE PARTY of corruption. Obama’s REIGN has not started and they are alredy dropping like flies, (or maybe MAGGOTS?)! http://news.aol.com/article/bill-richardson-drops-secretary-bid/292771
992 onlineanalyst // Jan 5, 2009 at 9:11 am
MsRW, Ink: You should have taken the CPAP (sp?) equipment with you to the ER. Perhaps the personnel could have examined it and sterilized it. Humidity promotes the flourishing of molds, so if the mold is still in the equipment and you have a humidifier running, the problem will reoccur. Check the humidifier itself, too. It may have mold in its “works”. If so, it is spewing mold into your bunker.
OT: Has anyone heard from Maggie? Is all well with her? She hasn’t posted in a long while.
993 RedPepper // Jan 5, 2009 at 9:44 am
Hmmm.
Have we had 1000+ comments on a thread before? I’m having Y2K flashbacks …
ola #992: there are a number of people who haven’t posted in a while … there’s always e-mail …
994 Ms RightWing, Ink // Jan 5, 2009 at 10:54 am
onlineanalyst
True, I should have thought of that. The CPAP will have brand new tubing and filters as soon as UPS gets them here so I think all the rest of the exposed equipment is hard plastic which I think I will clean out with alcohol. I have some cherry brandy that should (hic) work well.
Just kidding. That poor bottle gets very little use-but on rare occasion a nip cleans out the spiderwebs
995 mindknumbed kid // Jan 5, 2009 at 9:47 pm
Scott
996 mindknumbed kid // Jan 5, 2009 at 9:48 pm
tried
997 mindknumbed kid // Jan 5, 2009 at 9:49 pm
to thwart
998 mindknumbed kid // Jan 5, 2009 at 9:50 pm
our
999 mindknumbed kid // Jan 5, 2009 at 9:51 pm
effort.
1000 mindknumbed kid // Jan 5, 2009 at 9:52 pm
1000teenth!
1001 mindknumbed kid // Jan 5, 2009 at 9:54 pm
And still going…
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