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Bush Offers Compassionate Version of Auto Bailout Bill

by Scott Ott for ScrappleFace · 118 Comments · · Print This Story Print This Story

(2008-11-13) — The White House today unveiled a rival version of a $25 billion Democrat bailout for the Big Three U.S. automakers, which it said would yield immediate benefits for some 625,000 Americans.

George W. Bush, who is president of the United States, said he has called House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to “humbly suggest that instead of lending $25 billion to GM, Ford and Chrysler, or risking more taxpayer money on their flimsy stock, why don’t we just purchase a brand new 2008 vehicle for every citizen of Washington D.C., all members of Congress and their staffs, and all the employees of the executive branch and the Supreme Court?”

Mr. Bush said he “figured it would be a lot more compassionately conservative to give all these people a new Chevy Avalanche, Chrysler Crossfire or Ford Expedition, which all retail at around $40,000. We could buy one of these high-quality, union-made vehicles for each of the 588,000 D.C. residents, and throw in the federal employees for good measure. Heck, I could even take a train load of them home to Crawford with me in January.”

“When foreigners, like the Chinese, come to visit our nation’s capital,” said Mr. Bush, “they’ll see nothing but brand spanking new American cars and it will fill them with confidence so that they’ll want to loan us more cash to keep our government afloat.”

A spokesman for General Motors said that, “While the president’s plan looks good on paper, he hasn’t taken into account the fact that our dealers in the D.C. metro area would have to service all those new cars. Just taking care of the massive amount of warranty work from the normal manufacturers’ defects would be an unbearable burden. We’d have gridlock in every shop in the region.”

“With all due respect to the president,” the GM source said, “the U.S. auto industry doesn’t need to move more inventory. We just need cash to cover the losses on the cars that we’ve already produced, because our union contracts ensure that our cost structure is completely unrelated to our production volume, sales figures, or profit margins.”

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118 responses so far ↓

  • 1 onlineanalyst // Nov 13, 2008 at 8:09 am

    Gaffemaster Joe refused to take up the offer, preferring Amtrack as his mode of transportation to Katie’s.

    Nancy Pelosi was overheard by an anonymous source, saying, “This offer should definitely not include planes for Congress. I am the only recognized queen around here, who deserves to fly and leave my carbon footprint as a permanent mark of my superiority.” Barney Frank was speechless at this claim.

  • 2 onlineanalyst // Nov 13, 2008 at 8:14 am

    UAW officials were on record, saying that this plan is a featherbed that could add more bounce to their sagging prospects.

  • 3 Fred Sinclair // Nov 13, 2008 at 8:16 am

    Posted on last link, but I don’t want any to miss my sincere thanks. - Waxless Fred

    I wish to thank the many Scrapplers for their prayers on my behalf. (Even an e-mail from one of our favorite trolls.) I got out about 4PM on my B/D after tests eliminated the threat of cancer in my bladder. My other physical challenges have been greatly improved and am now back home. Again my many thanks to our powerful prayer resource we have available thanks to Scot Ott and ScrappleFace - Thanks Scott for your work in making this forum available as a part of your ministry.

    [Editor's Note: Welcome back, Fred.]

  • 4 flacracker // Nov 13, 2008 at 8:28 am

    If another bail out is a good idea (its not)

    then buying cars for all the leaches in Washington is a good idea (its not)

    Where’s my bailout… I still have to work for a living.

    I promise to not spend all my bailout cash on a nice junket to the Caribbean

  • 5 camojack // Nov 13, 2008 at 8:56 am

    “When foreigners, like the Chinese, come to visit our nation’s capital,” said Mr. Bush, “they’ll see nothing but brand spanking new American cars and it will fill them with confidence so that they’ll want to loan us more cash to keep our government afloat.”

    Ummm…ouch. :-(

  • 6 Hawkeye // Nov 13, 2008 at 8:58 am

    “the U.S. auto industry doesn’t need to move more inventory. We just need cash…”

    Me too. Where do I sign up…

  • 7 Hawkeye // Nov 13, 2008 at 9:00 am

    Great news Fred! God Bless… :smile:

  • 8 boberinyetagain // Nov 13, 2008 at 9:16 am

    Fred, welcome back! (good to know I’m among the favorites)

    Camo, I second that emotion…ouch!

    I wish this was funny Scott. Too close to the dead on truth though…

  • 9 danimal // Nov 13, 2008 at 10:29 am

    Yup, we owe those folks who gave us the Chevy Vega and Ford Pinto their union pensions and 80 bucks an hour costed labor.

    Burn baby, burn.

  • 10 boberinyetagain // Nov 13, 2008 at 10:59 am

    It’s obvious who should bail out auto makers…Exxon/Mobil…duh!

  • 11 gafisher // Nov 13, 2008 at 11:23 am

    These bailouts take too long to process. Congress is still tweaking the package it passed to airlift thousands of buckets to the Titanic.

    Welcome home, Fred.

  • 12 BlackLion31U // Nov 13, 2008 at 12:35 pm

    Oh well, It’s time for Michigan to stop selling cars and start selling fresh water anyway.

  • 13 mig // Nov 13, 2008 at 12:57 pm

    How about a little compassion to Wallace Shawn who has complained that Bush has ruined his love life (have you seen what the guy looks like?) and he has writers block.


    Bush has openly mocked law and proclaimed a certain pleasure in sadism and exulted in holding prisoners and mistreating and torturing them, really. Of course this affects one emotionally: my emotional life has been very strongly affected by the fact that Bush was president and my writing life is affected by my emotional life.

  • 14 John Galt // Nov 13, 2008 at 1:24 pm

    Government “help” to business is just as disastrous as government persecution… the only way a government can be of service to national prosperity is by keeping its hands off.

  • 15 NeaL // Nov 13, 2008 at 1:27 pm

    This girl got a lesson in “tolerance” from the Left:

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/chi-kass-13-nov13,0,2881384.column?page=1

    I think she would have gotten more accurate results if she had worn the uniform of the “in” crowd and blended in with everyone else before changing her shirt.

  • 16 MajorDomo // Nov 13, 2008 at 2:08 pm

    Welcome back, Fred! My prayers for a completely clean report.

    Let’s not forget the source of ALL this heartache is Clinton and congressional Democrats; and that, knowing this, the public INCREASED their numbers in the past election. Go figure!

  • 17 Fred Sinclair // Nov 13, 2008 at 2:22 pm

    This just in from “Pat’s Rick” its a real hoot on the algore hoax.

    OK, so now we officially have another scare. And, darn those reduced greenhouse gas emissions and carbon caps – It’s all their fault.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1085359/Global-warning-We-actually-heading-new-Ice-Age-claim-scientists.html

  • 18 BlackLion31U // Nov 13, 2008 at 2:38 pm

    NeaL,

    Good article, thanks for providing it. The behavior those kids displayed was truly shameful.

    I can say this though. It does go both ways, and regular “Scrapplers” are all witness to it.

    Cougar, Ligur, ET, and I have ALL been referred to as “Trolls” and sometimes much worse right here on this site. I have personally been told by one poster, that his son offered to meet me in an ally with just a k-bar between us, because he disagreed with my opinion.

    “Don’t ever feel as if you must conform, Catherine. Being on the outside isn’t so bad. Trust me.”

    Something to think about

  • 19 Fred Sinclair // Nov 13, 2008 at 2:43 pm

    Time out for a laugh. O.K. maybe a Hee Haw?

    A woman’s husband died. He had $20,000 to his name.

    After paying all the funeral expenses, she told her closest friend that there was no money left.

    The friend asked, “How can that be? You told me he had $20,000 a few days before he died. How could you be broke?”

    The widow replied, “Well, the funeral cost me $6,500. And of course, I had to make the obligatory donation to the church, pay the organist and all. That was $500, and I spent another $500 for the wake, the food and drinks, you know. The rest went for the memorial stone.”

    The friend asked, “$12,500 for the memorial stone? My God, how big was it?”

    The widow replied, “Three carats.”

  • 20 Fred Sinclair // Nov 13, 2008 at 3:38 pm

    Humor mode - off: From Prov. 6:16-19.

    These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:

    1) A proud look - With Obama no comment is necessary - self evident: Res ipsa loquitur is a legal term from the Latin meaning, “the thing itself speaks” but is more often translated “the thing speaks for itself. …

    2) A lying tongue - Again no comment is necesary - self evident

    3) Hands that shed innocent blood - 55 million aborted babies (and counting)

    4) An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations - He imagines that he will transform Free America into the slavery of a Socialist America.

    5) Feet that be swift in running to mischief - A.C.O.R.N.

    6) A false witness that speaketh lies - Every Political Speech he has ever made

    7) He that soweth discord among brethren - Conservatives vs Socialists

    It boggles the imagination to try and comprehend how anyone other than a Godless Socialist can promote, support and vote for someone of Obama’s ilk who is batting 7 for 7 on God’s list of things He calls an abomination unto Himself and still have the unmitigated gall to refer to himself as a Christian. But then again, I figure that on judgement day, we’ll find out what God thinks of that CINO.

  • 21 MajorDomo // Nov 13, 2008 at 3:46 pm

    Yes, Fred, and there shall be much weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth from those who “don’t need no god” and actually believe that they’re the sole authority of what’s right and what’s wrong!

  • 22 BlackLion31U // Nov 13, 2008 at 4:15 pm

    Fred,

    George W. Bush
    1) A proud look - and an inability to admit wrongs.
    2) A lying tongue -Pick one
    3) Hands that shed innocent blood - 4000+ and counting in Iraq.
    4) An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations - Plame Gate, torture, oh-oh, the war in Iraq
    5) Feet that be swift in running to mischief - (see 4)
    6) A false witness that speaketh lies - Every Political Speech he has ever made, (see 7)
    7) He that soweth discord among brethren - I could say Republicans and Democrats but that won’t fly with you. So how about when he and his campaign during the 2000 republican primaries spread lies about McCain fathering a black child?

    But as you say Fred, on judgement day!

  • 23 boberinyetagain // Nov 13, 2008 at 4:31 pm

    1-7, every politician ever seen/heard of…GUILTY.
    Good thing those aren’t the actual criteria…there’d be no politicians.

    Then again…perhaps I could live with that. I’d be willing to give it a shot. How could it be worse?

  • 24 J. Cougar Melancholy // Nov 13, 2008 at 4:52 pm

    Good one, Scotto

    But what would Michael Moore do?

    BlackLion, you were challenged to a K-Bar rumble in an alley? Lucky!

    The sweet smell of change is in the air!
    Obama’s gonna Git-R-Done!

  • 25 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 13, 2008 at 4:59 pm

    Change” my eyeball.

  • 26 BlackLion31U // Nov 13, 2008 at 5:09 pm

    Coug,

    Ya man, but it was a Marine. I figured bein an Army guy, I had to much of an advantage on him. ;)

  • 27 BlackLion31U // Nov 13, 2008 at 5:14 pm

    Bob #23,

    You got that right, but “The important thing for people to remember is that win or lose, the consultants still get paid.” (Scott Ott)

  • 28 BlackLion31U // Nov 13, 2008 at 5:22 pm

    Oh, speaking of “change”. How long do you think it will be before we can get our hands on some of those Obama dimes, quarters, nickles, pennies and silver dollars?

  • 29 gafisher // Nov 13, 2008 at 5:58 pm

    BL31U Re#18: “Cougar, Ligur, ET, and I have ALL been referred to as “Trolls” …

    Trolling is a method of fishing in which one cruises while trailing lures or bait in hopes a fish will strike. Can you honestly say this doesn’t describe at least a significant portion of the commentary of those who’ve earned the title?

  • 30 mig // Nov 13, 2008 at 6:32 pm

    #18-
    Are you seriously comparing yourself to juveniles? Now that’s funny.

  • 31 mig // Nov 13, 2008 at 6:43 pm

    See, already Change!
    “The morning after George W. Bush’s 2004 re-election, Britain’s Daily Mirror famously asked: “How can 59,054,087 people be so DUMB?” The morning after Barack Obama’s election, a far more upbeat Daily Mirror gushed “GOBAMA!” on its front page.”

  • 32 Fred Sinclair // Nov 13, 2008 at 7:35 pm

    Just when you needed a good cry….

    Muslims get last laugh at Swift: Plant must pay $365,000 to Muslims fired for walking off job

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/023476.php

    An update on this story, which played out essentially as predicted although that earlier post referred to the controversy at a different plant. The principles in play are the same. “Minnesota Plant That Fired Muslims for Taking Prayer Breaks Will Pay $365,000,” from AP, November 11 (thanks to Islam In Action):

    MINNEAPOLIS — Under a settlement to a federal lawsuit, up to 100 Somali Muslims who are current or former workers at Gold’n Plump Inc. will receive a total of $365,000.

    The settlement was filed in Minneapolis on Friday. It sprang from allegations of religious discrimination at the company’s chicken processing plants in Cold Spring and Arcadia, Wis.

    The U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission filed lawsuits against St. Cloud-based Gold’n Plump and the Work Connection Inc., an employment agency in St. Paul, which handled some hiring for the plant.

    Under the settlement, Gold’n Plump agreed to pay $215,000 to workers who were terminated for taking prayer breaks.

    The Work Connection will pay $150,000 to workers who were asked to sign a form acknowledging that they might be required to handle pork, which many Muslims consider unclean….

    So the proposition that Muslims have special privileges in American society, to which others are not privy, is now enshrined in precedent.

  • 33 RepublicanAttackMachine // Nov 13, 2008 at 10:15 pm

    Pelosi should call it what it REALLY is, a bailout of a large part of the Democrats base-the U.A.W.!

    And to make that an even bigger base, no more secret union votes. That way, they can get “unionized” in the auto plants in the midwest, and make those cars more expensive, or priced as high as Detroit. That is one way to get “Motown” cars competitive again, or until Detroit can get a new “Rapper/thug” Mayor.

    Unions favor Dems by a 100 to 1 ratio over Republicans and the one is someone like Chuch Hagel, or Lincoln Chaffee who are too far left to even be considered a R.I.N.O.. AND they do this NOW with union dues money from ALL members. Guess what is going to happen now?

    gafisher re:#29, I had the same thought. “Dissenting voices” is hardly what I would call ANY of these people. Even BL31U, who some stick up for, does not simply say GWB was a bad President, he has to call him foul names, and incite people with his rhetoric.

    Funny how they spin this as a “free speech” issue, but if we went to a pro-Obama website and said things about him/other Dems, we would be asked why we were there.

    I see MOST of what these people do here, the same as the homosexuals who went into the Church in S.F. and received Communion dressed as “Nun/clowns”!

    It also seems they do not want ANYONE, ANYWHERE forming groups that do NOT march lock step with them, and will try to disrupt it at all costs! Just as the left wing-nuts on college campuses do when an Conservative speaker is scheduled.

    Unfortunately, some well meaning Christians will STILL say, we should try to love, and understand them.

    I believe that is compromise, and we have seen where that has led to during the last 50 years or so in America!

    Now I am going for my “God Armor” because I know I have stirred the “trolls”! :lol:

  • 34 RepublicanAttackMachine // Nov 13, 2008 at 10:21 pm

    Fred: Great to have you back! I sent you a card to the hospital. I hope it got there on time, as I do not know if they will forward it. The message I sent via email, came back today from a Mary Siebers, saying you were already checked out.

    Anyway, great news about not having the cancer!

  • 35 mindknumbed kid // Nov 13, 2008 at 10:56 pm

    I think the term “troll” is way nicer than saying misguided ignoramuses. Wouldn’t everyone agree?

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  • 37 rbmshow // Nov 15, 2008 at 8:55 pm

    NO BAILOUTS

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tbp3fu58mbg

  • 38 movie buff // Nov 16, 2008 at 10:53 pm

    In the case of the auto-makers’ bailout, it’s a relief to have a national issue that is so straightforward: American cars tend to break down and fall apart therefore people are not buying them. If GM and Ford don’t want to go out of business, they should start making decent cars. To bail them out would be to reward their terrible manufacturing standards.

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  • 40 RedPepper // Dec 24, 2008 at 5:21 pm

    I’ve decided to leave this comment here because the current thread has become so long and unwieldly.

    Merry Christmas, Scrapplers. And my sincere wishes for a Happy New Year.

    God bless.

  • 41 onlineanalyst // Dec 24, 2008 at 6:45 pm

    Taking my cue from RedPepper, I also wish all Scrapplers the very merriest and blessed Christmas this 2008 and a hope-filled (in the best sense of the word) new year.

  • 42 upnorthlurkin // Dec 24, 2008 at 7:11 pm

    Great idea, kids! I would also like to pass along my wishes and prayers for a blessed Christmas season! Health and happiness in 2009 too! Who knows, maybe all this new civility will woo our favorite satirist out of hiding….??!!

  • 43 beekabok2 // Dec 24, 2008 at 11:39 pm

    A short note on what’s going on with me: My brother Tom is in the hospital tonight. He has had lung cancer and it has spread all through his body. They have him on a forced breathing mask (b-pap machine I think they call it) and they are not sure how much longer he has. Also my grandson (2-1/2 years old) was in the hospital tonight as well with a 105.7 degree temp. They have gotten the fever down and got a liter of IV fluid into him but all the blood tests they have taken have come back negative. He has been on antibiotics for four days with an ear infection. Had a otherwise nice Christmas eve dinner and gifts at my deceased wife’s (killed in car crash along with my 13 year old daughter nearly 2 years ago) mothers and stepfathers house. I am hoping to try again, along with my new wife, to quit smoking with the help from our local hospitals stop smoking program starting Jan 5th. I am praying hard tonight for my grandsons recovery and my brothers situation, that he either comes out of it or that God takes him without him suffering too much. I am also praying for my 9 year son. He is missing his Mom and Sister a lot right now.

    I thank God for the life he has given me and my family and mostly for bringing His Son to earth so many years ago so that we may all be with God when it is our time.

    I hope everyone on here and all through the world has a merry Christmas and a happy and blessed new year. Sincerely, John

    P.S. Scott, we miss your wit and humor and hope that you are just on a short break. Please let us know if there is anything we can do.

  • 44 nylecoj // Dec 25, 2008 at 1:18 am

    Red, OLA, upnorth and beekabok2,
    Merry Christmas! I too hope that we can woo Scott out of his exile.
    John,
    Please know that my thoughts and prayers are with you.
    Jocelyn

  • 45 RepublicanAttackMachine // Dec 25, 2008 at 1:53 am

    Thank you for the email Red Pepper. Merry BLESSED Christmas to ALL my Scrapple friends!

    Prayers for you and your family John, (that is my name too).

    GOD is in control and everything will work out JUST AS God has it planned!

  • 46 Beerme // Dec 25, 2008 at 10:45 am

    I wish the happiest of Christmases to all the Scrapplers out there and pray for the best for all of you as well! Keep the Beerme family in your prayers, please, as things are a bit dicey here, this year.

    May God shine his light on all of you and yours!

  • 47 Ms RightWing, Ink // Dec 25, 2008 at 12:06 pm

    To each and all-a Merry Christmas. A lot of praying is in need and I hope to be faithful to do such.

    Got a few of my own issues to deal with, but today is not the day for my issues.

    Bless each and all of you.

  • 48 mig // Dec 25, 2008 at 12:43 pm

    To all My Scrapplers,

    I hope you all know that you all mean so much to me. Individually and as a group. I love each and everyone of you. These last 5 years have been so important to me here. I have found a wonderful group of people that are near and dear to me. I thank each of you for being a part of my daily life. All the tears, happiness and prayers that we have shared. Thank you.
    I dearly love you all.

    Merry Christmas to all of you.

  • 49 RedPepper // Dec 25, 2008 at 1:25 pm

    For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.

    Luke 2:11

    ~~

    Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.

    Luke 2:14

  • 50 RedPepper // Dec 26, 2008 at 11:26 am

    An “education” story from Pakistan:
    Taliban Threaten to Kill Pakistani Schoolgirls.

    “We also warn schools not to enrol any female students; otherwise, their buildings will be blown up.”

    A related, earlier story from Afghanistan:

    Afghan schoolgirls sprayed with acid.

    Two men riding a motorcycle attacked a group of 15 girls with an acid-filled water pistol in the southern city of Kandahar, leaving six needing hospital treatment, three of them for serious injuries.

    Just remember, folks, we must be “tolerant” and respect “cultural differences” …

  • 51 Hawkeye // Dec 26, 2008 at 1:13 pm

    Well, as usual… I’m a day late and a dollar short. I guess it’s too late to wish everyone a Merry Christmas. I did that by other means anyway…
    HERE for example.

    Thanks for the invite Red! I would just like to say to “ditto” to Mig’s #48 comments. Although for me, I think it’s only been about 4 years and change. Not to be confused with Obamanesque “change”. Thank you all for being such good ScrappleFriends.

    And a special call-out to beekabok2… Prayers goin’ up.

  • 52 RedPepper // Dec 26, 2008 at 8:23 pm

    Hawkeye - good to see you here.

    A pre-emptive Happy New Year to you, and to all the other Scrapplers. Check back from time to time - I may just camp out here until Scott comes back. I’m weary of scrolling thru the 900+ comments on the current thread …

    /resume lurk mode

  • 53 gafisher // Dec 27, 2008 at 7:56 am

    Thanks for the thought and the note, RedPepper. I hope all my fellow Scrapplers and the Scrapplechief ‘hisself’ enjoyed the day in which even the world marks what Christians celebrate every Lord’s Day, God with us, Emanu-el.

    May each of you know God’s presence and love today and throughout the coming year.

  • 54 RedPepper // Dec 27, 2008 at 12:28 pm

    Peace On Earth.

    Palestinians: At least 195 dead, over 200 hurt in IAF Gaza strikes.

    From the Israeli statement :
    “Israel wishes to make clear that it will continue to act against terrorist operations and missile fire from the Strip which is intended to harm civilians.”

    Hamas ended its six-month cease-fire with Israel on December 19 - a day before it was due to expire - and the number of rockets fired at Israel from Gaza, which had dwindled significantly, returned to pre-truce levels. Dozens of Qassams and mortars had been launched almost daily at Israeli communities near the Gaza border since Hamas declared the truce was over.

  • 55 Darthmeister // Dec 27, 2008 at 1:49 pm

    Redpepper,

    A few years ago I picked up a “Soldier of Fortune” magazine at the local supermarket (yes, they still carry them!) because it had an interesting article about special forces actions in Afghanistan and Iraq.

    It turned out there was a day-to-day dairy account (replete with photos) of an American Jew serving in the IDF. At one point he made the observation that American newspapers rarely pick up on the daily stories of Palestinian attempts to bomb/shoot/maim the innocent Israeli populace.

    In just a week’s worth of “news”, this American IDF soldier was able to recount at least five to six attempts A DAY by Palis nutbags trying to win their marytr wings by directly murdering Israelis through rocket attacks, insurgent infiltration, dressed as Israeli soldiers, handgrenades through bus windows, homicide bombers, etc. And some of these attempts had been intercepted by Israeli law enforcement and IDF soldiers. And this was during an average month with no particular sense of heightened security. Interestingly, not a single Pali attempt out of about 30 was carried in the Western media. About the only thing the Western media will report are counter-insurgent operations like this and the more spectacular murder and mayhem conducted by Pali terrorists.

    So I find it rather disingenuous of the American media and Americans in general to tsk-tsk against the Israeli government when, after months of patience with these rabid dogs which are roundly encouraged by the Palistinian people themselves, it decides to strike back and hit the Palistinian militant leadership that often uses Palistinian civilians as human shields in hopes of dissuading such counter-insurgent attacks.

  • 56 Darthmeister // Dec 27, 2008 at 1:55 pm

    beekabok2,

    Consider your wish for our prayers fulfilled. I’m sure every Scrappler are keeping you and yours in their prayers. The patience of Job that you have had the last two years has been a real witness to many here.

    Godspeed and may the new year be full of grace and divine guidance in those days of great need.

    Darthmeister/Hankmeister

  • 57 Darthmeister // Dec 27, 2008 at 1:57 pm

    … every Scrappler IS …

    Doh!

  • 58 RedPepper // Dec 27, 2008 at 2:13 pm

    Darthmeister #55: What is particularly baffling to me is how anyone can look at the history of conflict between the Jews & the Arabs in the Middle East over the past century and still imagine that the Islamists can be placated or bargained with.

    Reminds me of a quote (by Talleyrand):
    They have learned nothing and forgotten nothing.

  • 59 mindknumbed kid // Dec 27, 2008 at 9:06 pm

    A few days ago I wanted to post something about our views and way of thinking and how out of step it is with the mainstream today. I was feeling like some sort of dinosaur, as the world is seeking after change. I guess that to them, we are the problem. As an American citizen, I look forward with the hope of better days and desire to see our nation prosper. Yet as a Christian I look to the future and see no hope for America, our hearts are at enmity with God, and we are looking to Washington to provide our bounty.

    Immanuel

    A sign shall be given
    A virgin will conceive
    A human baby bearing
    Undiminished deity
    The glory of the nations
    A light for all to see
    That hope for all who will embrace
    His warm reality

    Immanuel
    Our God is with us
    And if God is with us
    Who could stand against us
    Our God is with us
    Immanuel

    For all those who live in the shadow of death
    A glorious light has dawned
    For all those who stumble in the darkness
    Behold your light has come

    Immanuel
    Our God is with us
    And if God is with us
    Who could stand against us
    Our God is with us
    Immanuel

    So what will be your answer?
    Will you hear the call?
    Of Him who did not spare His son
    But gave him for us all
    On earth there is no power
    There is no depth or height
    That could ever separate us
    From the love of God in Christ

    Immanuel
    Our God is with us
    And if God is with us
    Who could stand against us
    Our God is with us
    Immanuel

    Immanuel
    Our God is with us
    And if God is with us
    Who could stand against us
    Our God is with us
    Immanuel

    What if God is no longer with America? What can Christians do - save cling to their guns and “religion”? We are entering into uncharted waters as Americans, we have had sufficient character and faith in God to keep us safe and secure as a nation. God “rocked our world” on September 11th, 2001, but in a short period of time we have forsaken the thought of his existence. If God shakes us again does this nation have the wherewithal to return to him? The masses are angrily kicking against the pricks, working to overthrow God, not willing to have Christ reign over them.
    But he will…

  • 60 mindknumbed kid // Dec 27, 2008 at 9:47 pm

    http://www.rhapsody.com/michael-card/tracks.html

    Listen to #7 America Again

  • 61 Fred Sinclair // Dec 28, 2008 at 4:47 am

    With yesterday’s IDF strikes I found this interesting….

    In an article in the English-language edition of the London Arabic-language daily Al-Hayat, columnist and former editor of the paper Jihad Al-Khazen claims that Israeli political military leaders are actually grandsons of Nazi killers who assumed Jewish identities and fled to Israel.
    The following are excerpts from the article: [1]

    “Is it Logical for the Survivors of the Holocaust and Their Descendants to Do What the Nazis had Done to Them?”

    “Ehud Olmert’s government perpetrates definite Nazi practices against the Palestinians and the Lebanese. He is a young Führer, and his generals, like Dan Halutz and Moshe Kaplinsky, are commando generals. The question now is: Is it logical for the survivors of the Holocaust and their descendants to do what the Nazis had done to them?

    “There is a psychological explanation for this: the victim impersonates the torturer.

    INTERESTING is the fact that out of their own mouth, they claim and maintain that the Holocaust never happened, and the Nazis did nothing to the Jews.

    The former editor of the paper Jihad Al-Khazen and B. Hussein Obama appear to have taken the “Handling ‘Truth’ - 101″ class together. They must have passed the class with honors since they seem equally adept in “Handling” truth.

  • 62 Fred Sinclair // Dec 28, 2008 at 6:53 am

    Unfortunately my tears cannot make it through the internet.

    As I understand it the religious members of the “Religion of Peace” have merely been following the fundamental duty of their religion insofar as their incessant rocket attacks into Southern Israel are Allah Anointed that they murder and injure as many of the Heathen Joooss as possible.
    One pundit’s comment:

    The Foreign Affairs spokesman for the Liberal Democrat Party, Ed Davey, described the Israeli strikes in Gaza as “disproportionate and unacceptable.”

    How dare these Miserable Pig Joooss interrupt the Hammas in the practicing of their religious duties!!! They’re only following orders.

    The followers of the “religion of peace” are simply following the instructions of Allah. Just how religious can you get?

    Possibly semi-low yield nuclear strikes around Gaza (say a dozen or so) might get their attention?

    As I read, it was about 700 years ago when the then current equivalent of semi-low yield nuclear strikes was rained down on the practitioners of the “religion of peace”. They scurried back into their ‘hidey-holes to plan and plot their triumphant return and now they’re back!

    They’re taking over one country after another from within with their sheer numbers bwo large families (their plan is to outbreed the rest of the world): read Mark Steyn’s “America Alone”.

    While they’re at it they might as well go ahead with 50 - 100 semi-low yield nuclear strikes over in Iran, in and around their (Iran’s) Nuclear Development Program. As a Christian Jew (by adoption) I think that would not be “disproportionate and unacceptable.”

    “disproportionate and unacceptable.” would depend on who you talked to. Those are negative words - “proportionate and acceptable.” are more positive and appropriate.

    Since they are for the most part not of the elect. It would be no more than Jericho revisited. God would save those that He wills to be saved - like Rahab the prostitute. The rest, like the inhabitants of Jericho would just cease to exist.

  • 63 RedPepper // Dec 28, 2008 at 11:45 am

    Fred # 62: “Disproportionate”?

    All through the past year, southern Israel has been the target zone for a steady, relentless barrage of rockets and mortar rounds fired from the Gaza strip. Most months, the number of rockets has been in the hundreds. The ONLY reason there have not been far more Israeli casualties than there were? These crude missles have no guidance systems: where they land, and what they destroy, is purely a matter of chance.

    Does that make these rocket attacks “acceptable”?

  • 64 RedPepper // Dec 28, 2008 at 2:15 pm

    What good is a U.S. Senate seat?

    Can’t sell ‘em … can’t even give one away!

    Say goodnight, Caroline.

  • 65 Fred Sinclair // Dec 28, 2008 at 4:05 pm

    Reports of an American Recession appear to have been somewhat exaggerated, eh? Another MSM generated fake crisis!!!

    Overall, it’s looking like a jolly $190 million 3-day weekend, up 5% from last year. Here are very early numbers for the Top 10 with Oscar-buzzed films below:

    1. Marley And Me (20th Century Fox)
    $37M 3-day weekend… $51.6M 4-day holiday

    2. The Curious Case Of Benjamin Button (Paramount)
    $27.2M 3-day weekend… $39M 4-day holiday

    3. Bedtime Stories (Disney)
    $28.1M 3-day weekend… $38.6M 4-day holiday

    4. Valkyrie (MGM/UA)
    $21.5M 3-day weekend… $30M 4-day holiday

    5. Yes Man (Warner Bros)
    $16.5M 3-day weekend… $22.4M 4-day holiday6. Seven Pounds (Sony)

    $13.4M 3-day weekend… $18.2M 4-day holiday

    7. The Tale of Despereaux (Universal)
    $9.4M 3-day weekend… $11.4M 4-day holiday

    8. The Day the Earth Stood Still (20th Century Fox)
    $7.9M 3-day weekend… $10.6M 4-day holiday

    9. The Spirit (Lionsgate)
    $6.5M 3-day weekend… $10.3M 4-day holiday

    10. Doubt (Miramax)
    $5.7M weekend… $7.1M 4-day holiday

    Considering the price of a theater ticket + popcorn, sodas, candy, etc. America seems to be in pretty good shape!!

  • 66 Fred Sinclair // Dec 28, 2008 at 8:25 pm

    RP #63 - I was quoting: “The Foreign Affairs spokesman for the Liberal Democrat Party, Ed Davey, described the Israeli strikes in Gaza as “disproportionate and unacceptable.”

    I stated that ““disproportionate and unacceptable.” would depend on who you talked to. Those are negative words - “proportionate and acceptable.” are more positive and appropriate.

    Israel response was IMHO “good” but could have been better. IMHO semi-low yield nuclear strikes (say a dozen or so) would have been even better.

  • 67 RedPepper // Dec 28, 2008 at 8:44 pm

    Fred #66: My sarcasm was not directed at you or what you had said; it was aimed at all these PC buffoons who think that self-defense is just another out-moded, last-century concept.

    Mr. Ed Davey with all his crap
    Deserves a Katyusha in his lap.

  • 68 mindknumbed kid // Dec 28, 2008 at 11:36 pm

    Self-defense is not an out-moded, last century concept unless you are Israel, the US, etc. If you are Russia you can roll over Georgia and it is all justifiable.

  • 69 upnorthlurkin // Dec 29, 2008 at 1:13 pm

    Heads up Scrapplers….just heard Mark Steyn will guest host for Rush on Friday!! Should be a barn burner!! (I also really like Jason Lewis who is the GH today!)
    Happy New Year!! 2 to 5 more inches of snow expected tonight…..so far we have yet to have a normal day up here temperature wise….colder than normal is the new “norm”.

  • 70 Fred Sinclair // Dec 29, 2008 at 1:43 pm

    unl #69 - I heard that my #1 fav GH tomorrow (Tues.) will be Walter Williams! Lord willing, I won’t miss him.

    Mark Steyn is another fav since I read his book “America Alone”.

  • 71 mindknumbed kid // Dec 29, 2008 at 8:04 pm

    unl - we broke free of the arctic freeze here, right now it is a balmy 47 in Gillette!

    Fred - Walter Williams is my favorite GH too. I really used to like it when B-1 Bob Dornan sat in for Rush too.

  • 72 mindknumbed kid // Dec 29, 2008 at 8:05 pm

    Hsup!

  • 73 Fred Sinclair // Dec 30, 2008 at 8:11 am

    Is it just my paranoid imagination or has anybody else noted how the new, newer and newest Pepsi Logo is morphing into an uncanny look alike resemblance of the Obama Logo?

  • 74 Fred Sinclair // Dec 30, 2008 at 8:15 am

    This has been around before but it sounds like a good plan.

    HOW TO INSTALL A HOME SECURITY SYSTEM IN THE SOUTH

    1. Go to a second-hand store and buy a pair of men’s used work boots, size 14-16.

    2. Place them on your front porch, along with a copy of Guns and Ammo and your NRA magazines.

    3. Put a giant dog dish next to the boots and magazine.

    4. Leave a note on your door that reads:

    ” Hey Bubba: Big Mike, Slim, Tiny and I went for more ammo. Back in an hour. Don’t mess with the pit bulls. They attacked the mailman this morning and messed him up pretty bad. I don’t think Killer took part in it but I locked all four of them in the house. Better wait outside”

  • 75 Fred Sinclair // Dec 30, 2008 at 8:20 am

    The Snow Grinch visited West Michigan Sun night and all balmy day today and made off with almost 100% of our lovely snow. Bah! Humbug!

  • 76 Fred Sinclair // Dec 30, 2008 at 9:12 am

    Our Obamaination has as a plank in his platform that calls for the redistribution of wealth. Unseen, overlooked or ignored is a major glitch that was addressed a few years ago in a piece I read written by a financial wizard. He went into great detail but the bottom line was that, if it were possible to amass all of the wealth in the world into one point and then equally divide the total by the six plus billion people on the planet giving each person one six billioneth of the total - it was his considered opinion that within two years - two and a half years at the most - every dime involved would be right back where it is today! Good luck, Mr. Presidential Usurper!

  • 77 nylecoj // Dec 30, 2008 at 12:55 pm

    MKK, Fred,
    It is amazing, here I am out in Eastern WA and our weather sounds just like yours. Saturday night a huge warm windstorm started through here. The wind spent the last three nights howling around my house like a banshee. Saturday we had 8″ of snow and as of yesterday all we have is the piles the snow plows left.
    We are now back to our average winter weather it had been 25-30 below our average of 35-40 degrees (highs) this time of year. It was 45 degrees yesterday. OTOH I was able to get into the parking lot at work without a running start to plow though the berm the plow left and then sliding precariously into my parking spot.

  • 78 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 30, 2008 at 7:07 pm

    -6GMT
    69.8° F
    South / 8mph
    Nothing but blue

    HAPPY NEW YEAR!
    God Bless You and Yours

  • 79 mindknumbed kid // Dec 30, 2008 at 8:38 pm

    re#73 - Fred - Without paying hardly any attention to the new logo that was my exact thought!

    Last night we had a “Weather Alert” about a dust storm we were to experience from 11 PM to 1 PM today, when I got up at 3 AM to go to work I was quite surprised to see snow falling. I was wondering about the dust storm because we still had snow cover… anyhow, it got windy and snowed pretty hard for a couple of hours. After that it was just wind. Our transport driver got stuck on Aberdeen Hill coming down last night, he said he could not see a thing for most of the trip, he got stuck behind a pickup going 30 MPH and couldn’t see good enough to get around it. He knew that he wouldn’t be able to make it over the hill pulling doubles unless he got a better run at it than 30. He put on his chains, but the truck spun sidewards up against the guardrail as soon as he tried to take off. So “Big Bertha” the tow truck came out and it was all she could do to get him moving, had her outriggers planted firmly and still slid back towards the stucked milk truck as she winched him along. The regular driver for this Tuesday run is off work recovering from surgery, last week the same guy was filling in and had just a rotten day where nothin’ went right, when he was reconnecting to the main trailer after having backed the “pup” up to the dock the handle that operates the trailer’s landing gear fell off - the bolt that was through it just fell in two. Why does that kind of thing only happen when it is below zero and the wind is blowing? I bet he can’t wait for the regular driver to come back to work.
    My new truck is supposed to come back from the doctor Friday, I hope they found the cure for what ailed it. My old truck is smaller, when I was loading it yesterday I was trying to fire out how to get another 24 gallons of 2% in it, and I would have sold them had I been able to squeeze them into it. I laded it up to the gills today and am not looking forward to trying to what that means for making tomorrow’s deliveries. I shouldn’t complain, when I compare this to what I was doing 3 or 4 years ago it is a lot easier.

  • 80 mindknumbed kid // Dec 30, 2008 at 9:14 pm

    hummm, that don’t make no sense!
    Pete, it’s a fool that looks for logic in the chambers of the human heart…
    O Brother, Where Art Thou rocks!

  • 81 RedPepper // Dec 31, 2008 at 5:48 pm

    Happy New Year, folks !

    I see that Gov. “Hot-Rod” Blagojevich is still burning rubber ! Fitzgerald’s begging for extra time ! O-blah-blah has become eerily silent ! And the ball still hasn’t dropped. Stay tuned …

  • 82 JamesonLewis3rd // Jan 1, 2009 at 8:07 am

    Happy New Year!
    God Bless You and Yours

  • 83 mindknumbed kid // Jan 1, 2009 at 10:19 pm

    Happy New Year!

  • 84 RedPepper // Jan 2, 2009 at 11:37 am

    Is Israel resuming its policy of targeted assassination?

    Key Hamas leader leader killed in Gaza strikes.

    If so, is it likely to have any effect?

    … Rayan’s death is a clear loss on multiple levels.

    He was uniquely popular and respected among the military wing; unlike most of the movement’s civilian leadership, Rayan fought alongside troops in battles with Israeli soldiers and tanks.

    He advocated suicide bombings, and his own son, 22, died in such an attack on an Israeli settlement.

    Although most senior Hamas leaders went into hiding when the Israeli air barrages began, Rayan made a point of living openly in his home in the Jabaliya refugee camp. He encouraged other leaders to follow suit.

    “He refused to leave his house; he preferred to be a martyr,” the Hamas official said.

    Thirteen members of Rayan’s family, including all four of his wives, were also killed in the strike, his teenage son Baraa told The Times.

    Two more children are missing and presumed buried under the rubble of their family home.

    “We are patient and we are committed to the resistance,” said Baraa.

    Meanwhile, more and more Israelis find themselves in range of the Hamas rocket attacks, due to their increasing range.

    Even Israel’s only nuclear plant may soon be threatened.

    Gaza rockets put Israel’s nuclear plant in battle zone.

    “Interesting times”, for sure …

  • 85 RedPepper // Jan 2, 2009 at 1:40 pm

    Hmmm.

    Some things never change. Scott may be among the missing, but Scrappleface is still eating the occasional comment. Oh well, perhaps it’ll still show up … perhaps Scott will show up, for that matter …

  • 86 mindknumbed kid // Jan 2, 2009 at 6:43 pm

    Whew! I worked harder today than I have all year. I am miffed too, my new truck is staying in Billings a while longer. It was supposed to be “fixed” but when they went to pick it up on New Years’ Eve, it wouldn’t start… if anyone sees Algore thank him for all of the unnecessary computerized emissions controls that have rendered this truck useless…

  • 87 mindknumbed kid // Jan 2, 2009 at 6:52 pm

    OK Scott, are you going to share your plans, those exciting plans you have for the future? After all, this is the future. Each passing second is a journey into the future and in its wake we find the past.

    I suppose it could be assisted suicide, or perhaps it is justice…

  • 88 mindknumbed kid // Jan 2, 2009 at 7:02 pm

    We purchased the new electronic version of Monopoly yesterday and played a couple of games. My wife won both games, the second game I forfeited when she was up to 48 million+ and half of my properties were mortgaged, this in spite of the fact that I had all of the high end properties, even had hotels on “Times Square” (Boardwalk) and “Fenway Park” (Park Place). The only thing I dislike about the new version is that Pennsylvania Avenue has been changed to the White House, I just don’t think it is proper to “own” the White House, even in a game.

  • 89 mindknumbed kid // Jan 2, 2009 at 7:15 pm

    50 beautiful degrees here today, the ice is melting from off my driveway (it is on the wrong side of the street, the sun never helps our cause as it does the folks across the street, it’s not fair !!) and I have scraped about half of it into the street with my trusty Honda Rancher ATV. Yes, I am that lazy when it comes to shoveling snow these days. Besides, I spent plenty of my hard earned dollars to buy that machine and it isn’t going to sit by idly while I strain my back! Regardless how small my driveway may be…

  • 90 JamesonLewis3rd // Jan 2, 2009 at 7:17 pm

    Hamas remains confident that it can withstand Israel’s superior military capabilities because it is willing to accept the deaths of more Palestinians than it believes Israel is willing to accept.
    ~~from HERE

  • 91 mindknumbed kid // Jan 2, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    Has anyone seen the movie “Flywheel”? We watched it last night, not a bad way to an hour and a half.

  • 92 mindknumbed kid // Jan 2, 2009 at 7:20 pm

    + spend in #91

  • 93 mindknumbed kid // Jan 2, 2009 at 7:35 pm

    As long as the nation of Israel exists there will not be peace in their land, unless they win it. Seeing as how Israeli self-defense is politically unacceptable it is certain that such hostilities will never end. Not until Christ himself delivers her. Silly leaders talk of peace, yet there isn’t any to be found.
    Psalm 120:7
    I am for peace: but when I speak, they are for war.

  • 94 RedPepper // Jan 2, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    JL3 #90: Whether they call themselves Hezbollah … or Hamas … or Lashkar-e-taiba … or any of a hundred other names, the essence does not change, nor will it … whether the claimed grievance is the death of innocents or the publication of a cartoon …

  • 95 RedPepper // Jan 2, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    The Big Three U.S. auto firms, instead of begging the Congress for “loans”, should be investigating potential new market opportunities … in France.

    Sarkozy vows crackdown on vehicle arson.

    PARIS - President Nicolas Sarkozy vowed to crack down on vehicle arson after more than 1,100 vehicles went up in flames overnight on New Year’s Eve.

    In one night. Impressive, in a way.

  • 96 Fred Sinclair // Jan 2, 2009 at 11:14 pm

    Taking our rightful place among the world’s MAJOR COUNTRIES!!! Thanks to Mark Steyn (filling in for Rush today)

    Algeria; Armenia; Azerbaijan; Bahrain; Chad; Cyprus; Egypt; Iran; Iraq; Israel; Jordan; Kuwait; Kyrgyzstan; Lebanon; Libya; Mali’
    Mauritania; Morocco; Niger; Oman; Pakistan;
    Palestine Quatar; Saudi Arabia; Sudan; Syria;
    Tajikstan; Tunisia; Turkey; Turkmenistan;
    United Arab Emirates; United States of Bailoutistan; Uzbekistan; Western Sahara; Yemen.

  • 97 Fred Sinclair // Jan 2, 2009 at 11:23 pm

    TAKE THE MIDDLE EAST GEOGRAPHY QUIZ

    Drag the country’s name onto the map. There is no humbling score or

    time limit, but rather this exercise is a learning tool. Don’t be afraid to

    make an error, and once you finish the puzzle, you will be far more

    educated about this very intense part of our world.

    http://www.rethinkingschools.org/just_fun/games/mapgame.html

  • 98 Fred Sinclair // Jan 3, 2009 at 12:54 am

    Mark Steyn - (with tongue-in-cheek) mentioned to a former speech writer for President Reagan that “Canada’s Socialized Health Care has a 10 month waiting period for the maternity ward” replied, “Reagan would have loved that line.”
    Philadelphia, PA has more MRI (Magnetic Resonance Imaging) machines that all of Canada. Need a hip replacement and you’re overweight? “Denied, you should have known better than to eat your way into obesity”. Need a lung transplant and you are or ever were a smoker? “Denied, you should have known better than to smoke.”

    Have a brain tumor? 9 month waiting list for an MRI (Magnetic Resonance Imaging) - Brain tumor surgery necessary? There’s a 16 month waiting list. (Believe it or not) One man’s wife (I have the video) drove him across the border into the United States, his MRI (Magnetic Resonance Imaging) WAS DONE IN TWO DAYS. Surgery was scheduled to remove a golf ball sized tumor from his brain. Now he’s back home in Canada. Surgery was successful (he made the video, to warn Americans about the potential horrors of Universal/Socialized Health Care). Total elapsed time 16 days.

    A Canadian about to be mother tried to get admitted into hospital, There were zero beds in maternity wards across all of Canada - she had to be flown with a nurse and respirator across the Rocky Mountains to Great Falls, MT where her triplets were born (does that make the triplets - American Citizens?).

    If you think Health Care is expensive now????? Just wait until it’s free!

    If you do not have Mark Steyn’s book “AMERICA ALONE - The end of the world as we know it” do yourself a favor and get your copy and read it.

  • 99 Fred Sinclair // Jan 3, 2009 at 2:28 am

    Good news is always welcome - I hope Scott doesn’t mind my posting this. - Waxless Fred

    On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Fred Sinclair wrote:
    Dear scott - A Happy New Year to you Sir, good to see you’re still around. You are on my prayer list and I pray for you daily.

    If finances was part of your absence from ScrappleFace - I just got a cola increase in my SS check - if it’ll help, I’ll restart my $25.00 to you & ScrappleFace, since I can better handle it now. - Waxless Fred

    Fred,
    Please use your COLA for you own care. The Lord takes care of me in other ways. I have been very active these past weeks — not only with camp and family activities, but with plans for the future of ScrappleFace. We’re going to try some new things, hope not to chase away all my existing readers, and perhaps reach some new friends. I’m really seeking the Lord’s guidance in a number of areas and appreciate your prayers that He would grant me wisdom beyond my years and skill beyond my experience. Above all …. that I would glorify Jesus with my life.

    Alive in Christ,
    Scott Ott

    For Scott’s sake and our sake - please pray for Scott.

  • 100 RedPepper // Jan 3, 2009 at 10:25 am

    No International Outcry Against Hamas by Mona Charen.

    I have a related question; why has there been no condemnation of Hamas by the mythical “Islamic moderates”? Or should we conclude that Hamas has behaved exactly as their brethren would wish them to?

    It’s often pointed out that Hamas does not recognize Israel’s right to exist. It’s more than that. Hamas, with Iran’s backing, is committed to Israel’s violent destruction. Missiles have fallen on schools and homes. Hamas is explicit about desiring Israeli counterattacks, because while Hamas aims to kill Israeli civilians, they know that Israel tries very hard not to kill Palestinian civilians. But every Palestinian death at the hands of Israel is seen as a propaganda victory for Hamas — which is why they place their munitions and terrorists in mosques, hospitals, and homes crowded with children.

    Is this what the “vast majority” of “peaceful Muslims” support? It doesn’t seem to bother them - we’ve seen the things they do when they are bothered …

  • 101 Fred Sinclair // Jan 3, 2009 at 11:19 am

    Most parents would not….

    At least I would hope and pray that most parents would nor voluntarily and willfully pack up their children and send them abroad - to China, where they would be enrolled for a 12 year education, in a Chinese Communist “Education or Re-education Camp”.

    Thoroughly indoctrinated, Imbued with, and steeped in the Communist way of servitude to the state they then return to the family. Jennifer Granholm, Carl Levin, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi and B. Hussein Obama stand as models of what kind of a kid you’d get back.

    And yet, generally unknowing and in many cases, not caring, all too many parents send their children off to “learn” in the American Public Schools of today. Perhaps not much more than a tiny fraction in differing from the Chinese school experience.

    If I had children today, I would forgo anything and everything, if necessary to ensure my kids were either enrolled in a Private School that I trusted or were Home schooled by my wife and I.

    One hour a week in Sunday school cannot very well compete with twelve school years of liberal, socialistic indoctrination that today’s Public Schools are dishing out.

  • 102 RedPepper // Jan 3, 2009 at 12:03 pm

    Gaza has its version of rocket scientists.

    According to the London-based Arabic newspaper al Hayat, on Dec. 23 Hamas legislators voted to introduce Sharia – Islamic law – to the Palestinian territories, including crucifixion. So next time you’re visiting what my childhood books still quaintly called “the Holy Land” the re-enactments might be especially lifelike.

    Latest from Mark Steyn.

  • 103 mindknumbed kid // Jan 3, 2009 at 12:14 pm

    Crucifixion - Civilized man at his finest?

  • 104 Ms RightWing, Ink // Jan 3, 2009 at 1:04 pm

    I want to ask the “back page” Scrapplers to pray for me today. I have a nasty lung infection that is doing me in big times. I went to the doctor yesterday to get antibiotics and some other medicine the state won’t pay for without approval which could take days. Folks, this is what life will be like for the insured under Obama. You need medicine-then you will have to wait and see if you are worthy in the sight of Uncle Sam to receive such.

    Likely I will win this battle but I see the ER coming into play unless God says no way.

    But this is what upset me. I was going through my e-mails last night after downing a bunch of medicine to help me breath. I came across a Zodiac e-mail which stated that if I didn’t pass it on something bad would happen. This was sent via a Scrappler.

    True my health is worse today but nothing could happen that didn’t get by the Lord’s knowledge, but I ask you why would someone send that. A person of weaker faith could be devastated by such a pile of tripe.

    I won’ t mention any names but I will say that we as God’s ambassadors (if we are such) should never, never take such a threat and pass it on.

    I have seen phony blessings if you pass this or that on-for Pete sakes, God doesn’t need a two bit e-mail to bless somebody-He was doing it for millenniums before the Internet and He will bless people will long after the Internet is seen as passe as Lincoln Logs.

    If I live or if I die it will not be because of an e-mail. Now I must go suck up a bunch more medicines and get dressed (sigh). If I am wrong for getting angry because of what I wrote then forgive me.

    Love you all
    Micheala

  • 105 upnorthlurkin // Jan 3, 2009 at 7:14 pm

    Ms. RW, prayers already sent on your behalf from this stormy part of the country!!

    Just a heads up to all the glow-ball (it’s the sun stupid!) warming maroons….I’m in ND… In December 2008, we set records for the most snow ever! I’m sure glad the price of running the snow blowers (gasoline) has dropped!!

  • 106 RedPepper // Jan 3, 2009 at 7:33 pm

    Ms RW: Hang in there. This, too, shall pass …

  • 107 mindknumbed kid // Jan 3, 2009 at 8:35 pm

    unl - Maybe it is all a big missunderstanding. Maybe they were supposed to be telling us about a Snowball Warning but Algore messed it up and no one has had the nerve to correct him? The funny thing ISN’T that all of the snow and cold is also alleged side effects of Glow-bull Warming…talk about having it both ways, these morons are the masters of the game. No worries, God is in control. Now for some gooder news…
    http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/12/21/iraq.christmas/index.html#cnnSTCVideo

    Don’t forget to disinfect your computer after visiting a CNN site, I hear camo forgot to do that and his computer died as a direct result!

  • 108 mindknumbed kid // Jan 3, 2009 at 8:37 pm

    re#104 - We are the FRONT PAGE scrapplers in an alternate location.

  • 109 JamesonLewis3rd // Jan 4, 2009 at 4:38 am

    Coincidently, I ran across THIS hilarity that kind of scared me after I stopped guffawing.

  • 110 camojack // Jan 4, 2009 at 4:38 am

    mindknumbed kid // Jan 3, 2009 at 8:35 pm
    Don’t forget to disinfect your computer after visiting a CNN site, I hear camo forgot to do that and his computer died as a direct result!

    Rumors of my (computer’s) death are greatly exaggerated.

    However, it was sick…but it’s A-OK now. ;-)

  • 111 RedPepper // Jan 4, 2009 at 9:16 am

    JL3 #109: Clever, these humans …

  • 112 mindknumbed kid // Jan 4, 2009 at 12:49 pm

    Human Climate Intervention is synonymous with Screw-up.

  • 113 RedPepper // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:29 pm

    mkk #112: Dude! You gotta think positive!

    How ’bout this idea. We just turn off the sun for a brief period of time! Then, when things cool down enough, we just reboot it!

    I mean, what could possibly go wrong?

  • 114 upnorthlurkin // Jan 4, 2009 at 2:37 pm

    Red, could we postpone shutting off the sun until like June or July, please?! We have -13° right now and 30+ inches of snow on the ground…I’d hate to see what’d happen if it got cold… ;-)

  • 115 RedPepper // Jan 4, 2009 at 3:06 pm

    upnorth #114: You need to pay more attention to the wisdom of my junior Senator :

    “We’re going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.” ~ Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, June 28th, 2004

    Just hope & pray y’all don’t get a visit from alGore! Cold snaps seem to follow him around like puppy-dogs …

  • 116 Fred Sinclair // Jan 5, 2009 at 12:02 am

    JL3rd #109 Re: THIS -

    In the words of the late, great Jeff Cooper. When asked to comment on the then new semi-auto pistol that incorporated the ‘double action’ first shot option. “An utterly ingenious solution to a non existent problem.”

    The military finally settled on the basic issue side arm which is the M9, the US Military designation for the Beretta 92F/FS, a semi-auto sidearm that fires the standard NATO issue 9mm ammo.

    Which in and of itself is another “utterly ingenious solution to a non existent problem.? they claimed that the Government .45 Auto was (due to recoil) too difficult for the military females and some men of small stature to deal with…the ubiquitous 9mm was picked, with seemingly no consideration of the fact that the 9mm is fundamentally nothing but a .38 Spec.(short), the .38 Spec. mikes @ .357 and the 9mm @ .355. In other words the military traded down, so now they and various police departments are forced to teach the “double tap” firing discipline; whereas it takes two 9mm to equal the ’stopping power of one .45 ACP.

    My ex, Susan, with her Colt Combat Commander in .45 ACP was (and still is, I’m sure) a force to be reckoned with. She can field strip and clean her Colt faster than I can and could consistently put 4 out of 5 - and just as often 5 out of 5 shots into a playing card at 15 yards.

    So, Jeff was right on with his ?An utterly ingenious solution to a non existent problem.?

  • 117 Fred Sinclair // Jan 5, 2009 at 12:33 am

    In from Letty -

    A large group of Taliban soldiers are moving down a road when they hear a voice call from behind a sand-dune. “One Marine is better than ten Taliban”. The Taliban commander quickly sends 10 of his best soldiers over the dune whereupon a gun-battle breaks out and continues for a few minutes, then silence.

    The voice then calls out “One Marine is better than one hundred Taliban”. Furious, the Taliban commander sends his next best 100 troops over the dune and instantly a huge gun fight commences. After 10 minutes of battle, again silence.

    The voice calls out again “One Marine is better than one thousand Taliban”. The enraged Taliban Commander musters one thousand fighters and sends them across the dune. Cannon, rocket and machine gun fire ring out as a huge battle is fought. Then silence.

    Eventually one wounded Taliban fighter crawls back over the dune and with his dying words tells his commander, “Don’t send any more men, it’s a trap. There’s actually two of them.”

  • 118 RepublicanAttackMachine // Jan 5, 2009 at 4:25 am

    I guess elections can be stolen, but by libs, NOT Republicans, as the shrieking libs have screamed in the past!

    First Obama, with the help from ACORN and other libs, now al frankenstein.

    Story here: http://news.aol.com/article/panel-to-name-franken-senate-winner/292894

    Another story, (oddly enough also from AOL), is about the TRUE PARTY of corruption. Obama’s REIGN has not started and they are alredy dropping like flies, (or maybe MAGGOTS?)! http://news.aol.com/article/bill-richardson-drops-secretary-bid/292771

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