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Court to Mull Individual Right to Drill for Oil

by Scott Ott for ScrappleFace · 95 Comments · · Print This Story Print This Story

(2008-06-29) — When the U.S. Supreme Court reconvenes on the first Monday in October, the nine Justices may consider whether the Constitutional preamble clause “secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity” guarantees an individual right to drill for oil.

Now that the court, in a 5-4 ruling on the Heller case, has upheld the Second Amendment right of “the people,” not just state-run militias, to keep and bear arms, some scholars say the court may be willing to go the next logical step and recognize the peoples’ right to acquire their own fuel.

With gasoline around $4 per gallon, the U.S. Congress continues to prevent Americans from drilling and refining, a move that would increase supply, and thus lower prices. However, so-called “Preamble advocates”, argue that the founding document guarantees the right of citizens to drill here and now.

“The two issues are quite similar,” said Glenn Reynolds, America’s most widely-read Constitutional scholar. “It’s all about throwing off the yoke of tyranny. Whether that’s by arming oneself with a gun as a safeguard against political despots, or building a derrick on one’s own property to secure the blessings of liquid liberty, these are fundamental Constitutional rights.”

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95 responses so far ↓

  • 1 mindknumbed kid // Jun 29, 2008 at 8:05 am

    I think I’ll go out and get mine the old fashioned way, shoot the ground and up from the ground comes a bubblin’ crude! Way cheaper than a derrick.

  • 2 JamesonLewis3rd // Jun 29, 2008 at 8:10 am

    God Bless America

    Excellent idea, Scott!
    Let us vote for or against using our own oil to its maximum potential as we use the savings to develop The Solution.

    I can only hope that, in my lifetime, the USA will be able to thumb its collective nose at the suddenly destitute desert dwellers twisting in the oily wind by the campfire which is fueled by the dung of their nearby camel.
    Thank you

  • 3 RedPepper // Jun 29, 2008 at 8:33 am

    What about the right to choose our own light bulbs ?
    In the privacy of our own homes ?

    Hmmm ?

  • 4 mindknumbed kid // Jun 29, 2008 at 8:45 am

    Sure you can choose, they only intend to control your choices….at first.
    You think it’s your home? Try not paying your taxes for a couple of years…

  • 5 mindknumbed kid // Jun 29, 2008 at 8:46 am

    Back up and push it.

  • 6 mindknumbed kid // Jun 29, 2008 at 8:50 am

    What oil in North Dakota? Castro angle drilled from Cuba 20 years ago.

  • 7 Fred Sinclair // Jun 29, 2008 at 9:30 am

    RP#3 - Awhile back my helper bought for me two dozen packs of 60 watt bulbs instead of two dozen bulbs. This month I’m getting another two dozen packs. In anticipation of God answering my prayer that He allows me to live long enough to see algore being led away in handcuffs; to begin serving his prison sentence for his “manmade” global warming hoax.

    algore’s bid to become the planet’s first trillionaire bwo his spurious claims, should be brought to an abrupt halt. His co-conspirators (all elected officials who helped promote his hoax) should likewise get prison sentences.

    So far as I’ve been able to find, no one, outside of China is manufacturing these screwy CFL’s - so they @ three to four dollars per bulb stand to make multiple trillions of dollars (sixteen bulbs in each traffic signal) so they are promoting “manmade” global warming (for everyone but themselves).

    Then there is bulbs to replace in all of the world’s autos (turn signals, interior lights, dash lights, etc). —— and the silliness goes on and on and on….. yes Mr. algore a hundred years in prison (wpp) sounds just about right.

    In the meanwhile, we can use the money saved by not buying CFL’s to drill our own oil and build dozens of refineries and dozens of Nuclear Power Plants.

    IN GOD WE TRUST

  • 8 Sunday Links : Stop The ACLU // Jun 29, 2008 at 12:20 pm

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  • 9 RedRum151 // Jun 29, 2008 at 2:07 pm

    The Supreme Court of the United States is playing Russian Roulette with our rights, and Justice Anthony McLeod Kennedy is the live round in the chamber of the gun.

  • 10 Joe Stuhl // Jun 29, 2008 at 2:18 pm

    Why didn’t we drill for oil thirty years ago? It would have make for a lot safer World. What kind of life are we leaving our Grandchildren? Drill now and use every other alternate use of energy we can find. AMEN.

  • 11 mindknumbed kid // Jun 29, 2008 at 3:35 pm

    Mexico has oil. Why not just make it into the 7 missing states from Obummer’s campaign trail? Look at the number of donors that could be added to our Social Security scheme!

  • 12 DrivebyMeteor // Jun 29, 2008 at 4:44 pm

    “The great enemy of truth is very often not the lie - deliberate, contrived and dishonest -but the myth - persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.” — John Fitzgerald Kennedy

  • 13 Tinman // Jun 29, 2008 at 5:28 pm

    [deleted]

  • 14 RedPepper // Jun 29, 2008 at 5:43 pm

    Tinman: FYI - similar questions have been raised about Sen. McCain, who was born in Panama.

    Of course, we still have Ralph Nader. And Bob Barr!

    Where’s that “None Of The Above” line on the ballot when you need it?

  • 15 RedPepper // Jun 29, 2008 at 5:53 pm

    PS: I note that you included the issue re: McCain in what you posted. However, I’m pretty sure that there are still people who take the position that McCain is disqualified, though others dispute that.

    Which will be, I guess, a perfect set-up for yet another election result ending up before the Supreme Court.

    So the only vote that will really matter in this election is … Justice Kennedy.

    OK. Now I’m worried …

  • 16 JamesonLewis3rd // Jun 29, 2008 at 6:10 pm

    The Email Rumor is false. He was born on American soil.

  • 17 MajorDomo // Jun 29, 2008 at 6:12 pm

    Hmmmm, Tinman: Has the October Surprise occurred in June?

  • 18 JamesonLewis3rd // Jun 29, 2008 at 6:14 pm

    The rumors about John Sydney McCain III are spurious as well.

  • 19 mindknumbed kid // Jun 29, 2008 at 6:23 pm

    Unfortunately, they are both legal candidates.

  • 20 mindknumbed kid // Jun 29, 2008 at 6:29 pm

    Hopefully this election’s October surprise is that the election is being canceled due to lack of interesting candidates.

  • 21 JamesonLewis3rd // Jun 29, 2008 at 6:37 pm

    Of course, I looked around after my comment #15 and found this that suggests I was not necessarily correct.
    My apologies.

    Heck, he doesn’t even have a birth certificate!?!

  • 22 RedPepper // Jun 29, 2008 at 7:34 pm

    JL3 #s 15, 17 & 20: But this is precisely why it’s likely to end up at SCOTUS, James. These people are lawyers, for Pete’s sake! You don’t really think that facts make any difference to them, do you?

    Q. : How can you tell when a Lawyer is lying ?

    A. : The other Lawyers are taking notes.

    Q.E.D. …

  • 23 Libby Gone // Jun 29, 2008 at 7:48 pm

    Excellent,work!
    I often wonder how the politcal jargon would change if the worlds largest self sustaining source of energy where found directly under such places as New York City, L.A. California, Massachusetts,and Georgia.
    Dam the treehuggers Full BORE ahead!
    drill here, drill now, PAY LESS NOW!

  • 24 Fred Sinclair // Jun 29, 2008 at 8:41 pm

    I’ve received several e-mails today about B.O.’s citizenship.

    Rather than waste any time on the matter I’ll rest as a Panublican, because I’m convinced that it will all Pan out the way The Lord wills it.

    Fred sitting around fussing and worrying the matter, will not convince God that my ideas are better than His.

    It’s not impossible that He plans to put B.O. on the throne. After a few years of his reign, America will get sick of having liberalism shoved down our throats so that we’ll tire of wading around ankle deep in each others vomit and we’ll vote out all of the liberals.

    There’s a pipe dream A Congress with 100 Senators and 435 Representatives, all hard core Conservative Republicans.

    btw - has anybody besides me noticed that liberalism was no more than a pesky gnat in America - up to when we let the women con us into letting them vote?

    19th Amendment to the US Constitution in Congress and the battle to get the Amendment ratified by the states. The Amendment was passed by Congress on June 4, 1919, and ratified on August 19, 1920.

    As it’s often said “and the rest is history” liberals and ‘girlymen’ have grown like weeds ever since. A Liberal SCOTUS gave us legal abortion and a great number of other liberal decisions.

    I won’t vote for B.O. but he might be just what America needs most!

    IN GOD WE TRUST

  • 25 DrivebyMeteor // Jun 29, 2008 at 9:28 pm

    “Women should be obscene and not heard.” — Groucho Marx

  • 26 MajorDomo // Jun 29, 2008 at 10:01 pm

    I don’t like the idea of waiting around to see when and if liberalizm is going to commit suicide. That could take another ten years, or thirty. I may not live that long. I’d much rather see it cut off at the knees this year… with sweeping victories in the Congress, as well as the presidency. Why let this philosophy destroy one of the world’s great nations? Must we emulate the OT Israelites, and be dragged into servitude to other, lesser nations in order to call up the courage to fight back?

    wv in personally Praise the Lord!

  • 27 Fred Sinclair // Jun 29, 2008 at 10:17 pm

    This just in……..

    Sure, go ahead. Say hi for me. Handle was/is “My Word”.

    On Jun 29, 2008, at 9:50 PM, My Word wrote:

    Here’s the law…it mentions the age of ‘14′ not ‘16′, but in any case, it may well apply.

    1952 The Immigration and Nationality Act of June 27, 1952, 66 Stat. 163, 235, 8 U.S. Code Section 1401 (b). (Section 301 of the Act).

    “Section 301. (a) The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
    “(1) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;

    “(7) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States, who prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than ten years, at least five of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years.
    (b) Any person who is a national and citizen of the United States at birth under paragraph (7) of subsection (a), shall lose his nationality and citizenship unless he shall come to the United States prior to attaining the age of twenty-three years and shall immediately following any such coming be continuously physically present in the United State(s) for at least five years: Provided, That such physical presence follows the attainment of the age of fourteen years and precedes the age of twenty-eight years.

    (c) Subsection (b) shall apply to a person born abroad subsequent to May 24, 1934: Provided, however, That nothing contained in this subsection shall be construed to alter or affect the citizenship of any person born abroad subsequent to May 24, 1934, who, prior to the effective date of this Act, has taken up a residence in the United States before attaining the age of sixteen years, and thereafter, whether before or after the effective date of this Act, complies or shall comply with the residence requirements for retention of citizenship specified in subsections (g) and (h) of section 201 of the Nationality Act of 1940, as amended.”

    IN GOD WE TRUST

  • 28 mindknumbed kid // Jun 29, 2008 at 11:35 pm

    We are not Israel, if we blow it we may not get a second chance to rise from the ash heap of history. Look at the British Empire, any signs of it returning to what it once was. I could be wrong, but I figure that the return of Christ is so near that America, unless it repents, will be going down close to the same time that we are going out. This world is not interested in salt and light, it is going toward humanism full speed ahead. All of the nations will gather themselves together to make war with Christ, how soon this could occur is purely speculation, but look at the direction we are headed. We assume that we will be gone without suffering for Christ, we will be gone before God begins to pour out his wrath upon the nations, but we are not better than the saints of old that were killed in not so pleasant manners a few hundred years ago.
    God may indeed put wicked men in office as we begin to turn away from him, and we labor in vain to attempt to thwart his plans. However, there is no reason to roll over and surrender.
    Whatever God is doing, we still have been charged to go and spread the good news to all that we can. If we seek God and influence our fellow citizens to embrace Christ, we will do as much, or more, to impact the country than all of the political movements can ever do.

    Onward Christian soldiers, marching as to war,
    with the cross of Jesus going on before.

  • 29 mindknumbed kid // Jun 29, 2008 at 11:36 pm

    Good night, and God bless.

  • 30 camojack // Jun 30, 2008 at 2:41 am

    Greetings from Alaska! I’m in Anchorage now, where the price for regular unleaded is $4.39/9; I’ll be in Denali the next couple of days, and Fairbanks after that…with a side trip to visit the infamous pipeline.

    I’ll see if I can get ‘em to drill in ANWR…

  • 31 Hawkeye // Jun 30, 2008 at 7:49 am

    Drill Here, Drill NOW!

  • 32 danimal // Jun 30, 2008 at 10:01 am

    5 out of 9 SJC Justices believe that the 2nd Amendment “says what it says is says”. Troubling is the fact that wasn’t 9-0. And I’m figuring that that the 4 that don’t can find individual right to a publicly funded abortion on demand clearly spelled out in the same Constitution.

  • 33 Maggie // Jun 30, 2008 at 10:06 am

    Good Morning Scrapplers,
    Texas Tea, anyone?

    Red Pepper re..#3
    Very enlightening

  • 34 danimal // Jun 30, 2008 at 10:14 am

    “says what it says it says”.  Note to self - proofread before hitting submit.

    ***********************

    “If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen” - Samuel Adams

  • 35 upnorthlurkin // Jun 30, 2008 at 11:24 am

    Yes, I know I’m off topic, but all this talk about heritage and birth certificates lead me to this and I found myself laughing out loud! We all know how beneficial laughter is to our health….

  • 36 conserve-a-tips // Jun 30, 2008 at 11:34 am

    Welllll, good morning, Viet Nam…oh wait….Scratch that….we moved away from there to the place we oughta be - a place called Beverly…Hills, that is…swimmin’ pools, movie stars - the land of liberals and no drillin’ for oil.

    Hello folks. The wedding is over and my house is still chaos, but boy am I glad to be back to semi-normal…whatever that may be.

    How’s everybody been? And thanks Redpepper for the note. Thanks Fred for the continued funnies and information.

    Are we still doing the capchas?
    McKenless Mans: Those Scotch/Irish like McCain who have a Barbie but can’t compete with Ken.

  • 37 JamesonLewis3rd // Jun 30, 2008 at 12:45 pm

    I guess “casting the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee as an opportunistic and self-obsessed politician who will do and say anything to get elected,” (precisely what he is, of course) will brand JL3rd and others of like mind as paranoid bigots and stuff.

    Elitist The Washington Post is tormented that the upcoming election “will be won or lost based on voters’ view of Obama’s character,” suggesting a covert nefariousness in such a quaint concept.

    Yes. Yes. Point to the past—So-and-so did this—And So-and-So did that—And Yadda-Yadda—Blah-Blah, Woof-Woof—As if this gives BO some kind of a pass…..

    Well, here’s the deal: We’ve learned our lesson and-sooner or later (these days sooner)-everybody gets vetted. We, The People can actually vet the candidates from right where we’re sitting right now. We, The People have control of the character and quality of our government; it should reflect our values, there’s no reason it can’t.
    God Bless America

  • 38 Fred Sinclair // Jun 30, 2008 at 1:19 pm

    Let’s not forget the truth.// a must watch

    The most despicable acts of deceit ongoing in this country… are the
    lies and hypocrisy… perpetrated by the people seen in this short video.
    Here’s a video compilation you definitely won’t see on main stream media.

    The next time you hear the expression ‘Bush’s war’ remember this video .

    And note that there is no ‘opinion,’ just direct video.

    http://www.bercasio.com/movies/dems-wmd-before-iraq.wmv

    IN GOD WE TRUST

  • 39 RedPepper // Jun 30, 2008 at 4:19 pm

    c -a-t #36: About time you got back home, young lady!

    Welcome back!

    wv=”Navy rally” ; reCaptcha must be in the bag for McCain …

  • 40 mindknumbed kid // Jun 30, 2008 at 7:49 pm

    Who let the c-a-t in?
    Oil? We don’t need no stinkin’ oil. We got Ethanol. We got Mazolaâ„¢ in our diesels. We can tell Mr. Jed Clampett to keep his environmental poison right back there in his swamp where God Almighty put it.

    Hey Ms RightWing, hope you are feelin’ finer than frog’s hair!

  • 41 Libby Gone // Jun 30, 2008 at 8:11 pm

    ”My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you’ll join with me as we try to change it.’
    OBAMA/DAMIEN ‘08!
    and you thaught dubya was aech ee double hockeys sticks ON EARTH!

  • 42 Libby Gone // Jun 30, 2008 at 8:17 pm

    “and I didn’t mention the VP”,
    in my best Plankton voice….
    (ya gotta have kids and or watch spongebob for you that live under mushrooms….)
    WV: Withold be, ? for what has it done? is it greater than A? lesser than c? What be b?

  • 43 Ms RightWing, Ink // Jun 30, 2008 at 8:57 pm

    Update
    Monday evening. I am finally back home as of 2 hours ago. Things went fairly good through the surgery but the doctor said he had never seen a gall bladder that bad. Boy, glad my kidney doctor told me I had a bad gull bladder when she did. It took 3 months for her to get the news to me..

    They also zapped a small organ that God intended to be my ovary, but it never worked out that way.

    Recovery went well for Friday but turned sour on Saturday-buy God was gracious to see I pulled through. Thank goodness for pain pills.

    Unfortunately I may have to return to have more surgery but that will wait until I am good and ready. Next time they will slice my upper chest. Dang, I need to be selling these organs on e-bay.

    Still loopy so will sign off now.

  • 44 MajorDomo // Jun 30, 2008 at 9:46 pm

    Welcome back! You’ve my prayers for a full and complete recovery!

    Camo: Hope you enjoy your stay. I spent three winters there (Eielson AFB) ‘68-’71, and can truthfully say that I watched beautiful displays of Northern Lights from North Pole. Is Club 11 still there?

  • 45 Beerme // Jun 30, 2008 at 10:21 pm

    Here’s hoping for a quick recovery, Ms. RW!

    Harry Reid says coal and oil is makin’ us sick!

    Camo,

    Enjoy the last frontier! I’m jealous…

  • 46 Beerme // Jun 30, 2008 at 10:22 pm

    MsRW, Ink.,

    Best wishes for a full recovery and welcome back! Hope you’re feeling better, soon.

    <a href=Harry Reid says that all that oil and coal is a makin’ us sick! Ha!

  • 47 RedPepper // Jun 30, 2008 at 10:37 pm

    Ms RW #43: Guess they can’t tell you, “You’ve got gall !” any more …

    Hang in there !

  • 48 conserve-a-tips // Jun 30, 2008 at 10:52 pm

    Ms Rightwing, Inc - speedy recovery to you and my prayers are with you. Hoping you don’t stay too looped.

    I bought gas the other day and since our state has just passed a law that says that if there is ethanol in the gasoline, it must be posted in big, big letters with the percentage, I happened to stop at a Walmart for gas and saw such a sign. 10% ethenol. However, I had already started to put the gas into my little Camry before I realized that the sign was there. Conspicuous, huh? My little Camry doesn’t like ethanol so good and so it is sputtering. Hoping that the engine doesn’t quit altogether.

    Captch: Unblest Lippe - smarting off

    But I found it interesting that with the 10% ethanol, the gas wasn’t 10% cheaper. It was exactly the same price as the other gas. And since it said, “May lower gas mileage”, I’m wondering, AlGore, where aaaarrre you??????

    Capcha: Unblest Lippe - 1. smarting off 2. bad language

  • 49 Fred Sinclair // Jun 30, 2008 at 10:54 pm

    What Things Cost When I Was Born in 1937:
    Car: $675
    Gasoline: 20 cents/gal
    House: $6,600
    Bread: 9 cents/loaf
    Milk: 50 cents/gal
    Postage Stamp: 3 cents
    Stock Market: 121
    Average Annual Salary: $1,700

    What Things Cost When I started School in 1943:
    Car: $1,100
    Gasoline: 19 cents/gal
    House: $8,000
    Bread: 9 cents/loaf
    Milk: 62 cents/gal
    Postage Stamp: 3 cents
    Stock Market: 136
    Average Annual Salary: $2,500
    Minimum Wage: 30 cents per hour

    What Things Cost When I Graduated Hi-school and Joined The Air Force in 1955:
    Car: $1,950
    Gasoline: 29 cents/gal
    House: $17,500
    Bread: 18 cents/loaf
    Milk: 92 cents/gal
    Postage Stamp: 3 cents
    Stock Market: 488
    Average Annual Salary: $5,000
    Minimum Wage: 75 cents per hour

    The only thing that has changed is that our money is not really money. I read that money is a medium of exchange that stands in lieu of a commodity. That commodity being in and of itself “real value” i.e. - gold, silver, wheat, barley, corn, et al.

    Today’s “Greenies” are backed by nothing but the Good Faith and Credit phrase, they are Federal Reserve Notes (checks that cannot and will not ever be “cashed”). It cannot be exchanged in any bank for any item of “real” value.

    The price of gas has not gone up, the value of our currency has gone down, which is why a pre ‘65 silver quarter (containing 1/4 oz. silver) is worth $4.55 of today’s “money” - and that quarter will still buy a gallon of 2008 gasoline.

    IN GOD WE TRUST (does anybody know why on silver dollars TRUST is always rendered TRVST”)

  • 50 conserve-a-tips // Jun 30, 2008 at 11:11 pm

    Fred, where do you learn all this stuff? V for Victory? :-)

    Sorry about the repeat in my post above. I am having problems with the site. Things keep disappearing. Is it just oober slow for me or is it for everyone? And has anyone else received a message that your computer is bad and has sent out malicious activity from your IP address?

    Captcha: Seabright south - shining waters in the iceless Antartic due to global warming. Righttttt.

  • 51 mindknumbed kid // Jun 30, 2008 at 11:26 pm

    My 1880 Morgan has “In God We Trust” on it, so does the 1895 Morgan. I don’t have any newer ones to look at to check the spelling. I just started a coin collection a couple of months ago, my prize is an !857 half dime, it is such a cute little thing.

    Loopy or not, it is good to have you comin’ around again Ms RW!

  • 52 mindknumbed kid // Jun 30, 2008 at 11:29 pm

    A bit on the slow side, yes. But no messages here. I do spank my ‘puter regularly though, just to keep it in line.

  • 53 mindknumbed kid // Jun 30, 2008 at 11:41 pm

    The Peace Dollars have the “V” on them. Susan B. Anthony - no V. I think I’ll buy a Peace Dollar sometime soon.

  • 54 Fred Sinclair // Jun 30, 2008 at 11:50 pm

    cat #50 - after I was “disability retired” in Dec 2000 I spend my time sitting around my apt in my wheelchair with Sally (my Cocker/Beagle) and my Computer (A MAC of course w/all the bells & whistles) so I play around with “dogpile” (You can learn anything about anything or anybody since it is made up of at least seven or more of the biggest search engines)

    Speaking of which, Angus the Scot sent me the following, If it saves one life - it’s worth posting. I Dogpiled this and got several links all pretty close in agreement - none mentioned the tongue.

    This is very interesting. Hope everyone reads it. Hope no one ever needs it, one Scrappler with a stroke is at least one too many.

    ______________________Angus the Scot

    They Now Have A Fourth Indicator, the Tongue

    Worth reading..the tongue indicator is new (to me)

    STROKE: Remember The 1st Three Letters…. S.T.R.

    My nurse friend sent this and encouraged me to post it and spread the word. I agree.

    If everyone can remember something this simple, we could save some folks.
    Seriously..

    It only takes a minute to read this…

    A neurologist says that if he can get to a stroke victim within 3 hours he can totally reverse the effects of a stroke… totally. He said the trick was getting a stroke recognized, diagnosed, and then getting the patient medically cared for within 3 hours, which is tough.

    RECOGNIZING A STROKE

    Thank God for the sense to remember the ‘3′ steps, STR. Read and Learn!

    Sometimes symptoms of a stroke are difficult to identify. Unfortunately, the lack of awareness spells disaster. The stroke victim may suffer severe brain damage when people nearby fail to recognize the symptoms of a stroke. Now doctors say a bystander can recognize a stroke by asking three simple questions:

    S * Ask the individual to SMILE.
    T * Ask the person to TALK and SPEAK A SIMPLE SENTENCE (Coherently) ( i.e. It is sunny out today)
    R * Ask him or her to RAISE BOTH ARMS.

    If he or she has trouble with ANY ONE of these tasks, call 999/911 immediately and describe the symptoms to the dispatcher..

    New Sign of a Stroke ——- Stick out Your Tongue

    NOTE: Another ’sign’ of a stroke is this: Ask the person to ’stick’ out his tongue..If the tongue is ‘crooked’, if it goes to one side or the other , that is also an indication of a stroke.

    IN GOD WE TRUST

  • 55 Fred Sinclair // Jul 1, 2008 at 12:34 am

    mkk #53 - you;re right - Peace Dollars has the “V” - dogpile comes through again!

    Silver spot was at $17.38 - my 1923 is a co (poor) worth only it’s silver . Dealers are asking $20.00 for them now. VF’s PROOFS, MINTS & UNCIRCULATEDS are 2-3 times that (and more).

    Buy now! We are a few days to a few weeks away from a major surge in both gold and silver (friends that I was bugging in 1998 about buying rolls of pre 65 co’s are very happy campers today). This next surge will run 15 - 18 mos - I will sell 14 1/2 mos after the surge starts.

    Answer from Wiki

    The motto is NOT a misspelling. It is written using the Roman alphabet as was common in artistic works of the 1920s. That alphabet only had 24 letters, with V and I serving as both vowels and consonants.

    IN GOD WE TRUST

  • 56 Fred Sinclair // Jul 1, 2008 at 12:41 am

    cat #50 - Simply dogpile 1947 prices (or any years from 1935-1950).

  • 57 Ms RightWing, Ink // Jul 1, 2008 at 1:11 am

    Oh yes, my stomach is much flatter and I also have my belly button back. Oh too much for the press. S’pose you are right.

    I guess all that weight gain, which is gone (well mostly) weakened the stomach wall. I told the surgeon I wanted a cute little tummy tuck and I guess he thought I said I wanted my tummy button back.

    Well, you get what you ask for.

    The worse thing was watching CNN for 5 days. Can anyone seriously tell me it is not a playground for the Democrats to romp around in. My God, that is all they talked about, the Boracko-Clinton love fest

  • 58 Ms RightWing, Ink // Jul 1, 2008 at 1:12 am

    pushy pull

    Oh yes, it sure is good to see you again CAT

  • 59 Maggie // Jul 1, 2008 at 8:52 am

    Good Morning and Happy July to Ms Right Wing and a “BIG” welcome back to C-A-T, I have missed you.

    Re #50…..yes,I’m once again receiving the “malicious message” each time I post.

  • 60 conserve-a-tips // Jul 1, 2008 at 8:53 am

    Good morning! And Ms Rightwing Ink, I want one of those tummy buttons. I figure if I had one, I could push it and it might make my bottom disappear!

    Fred, you are a wealth of information. I use it and then my friends think that I am a wealth of information. :-)

    And back to topic here, being as how I live in oil country, I suppose that I could drop one of those puppies right in my back yard - except that most of us who own land don’t own our mineral rights and they’d come and take us away. So much for the individual’s right to bear oil. And we don’t have bears, so you can’t jump on that joke either!!

    All’s I know is that here, where the wind goes sweeping down the plain, and the sky is not cloudy all day, we truly have the right to bare arms - no sleeves for us. Too hot.

    Captcha: Demorest 33 - An historical event where all but 19 Lefty senators were hauled off to jail

  • 61 Ms RightWing, Ink // Jul 1, 2008 at 9:05 am

    Ahem, well, back to politics. I washed my brain out after 5 days of CNN. My what a refreshing night’s sleep can do. I do need to petition our local hospital for FOX News to be installed on the channel selection though.

    It sure would be healing for some but likely would give more than a few Democrats a cardiac lock down. Hmm, I can see it now, a huge investigation would ensue why patients were suddenly dying just as they looked as though they were healing.

    The truth could kill libs as they go internally berserk at the name of George Bush while conservatives just get nauseated at the continuous joy party they are having with the likes of Borax Obama.

    There may come a day when I die at the hospital, but it will be national health care (Hillary Care) not CNN that will do it.

  • 62 Ms RightWing, Ink // Jul 1, 2008 at 9:13 am

    Well a good patriotic morning Maggie and C-A-T. Good to wake up to you guys rather than a pill totin’ nurse.

    Sad though, I must get up and make my own breakfast.

    Now that it has quit raining I have to go out and check my flowers. I worked right up to nightfall of the night before they clamped me down. Ever since then we have had rain, storms and other Biblical disasters short of frogs falling from the sky

  • 63 conserve-a-tip // Jul 1, 2008 at 9:24 am

    oooohhh. Frogs….that would be bad! Yuck.

    Yes, it is a patriotic morning, Ms Rightwing, Ink. It is absolutely beautiful here. Been out on the deck with a cup of tea and a bagel, drinking in the smells and sounds.

    And speaking of patriotic - yesterday Mr. Osama Obama stated, trying to redefine patriotism : As Mark Twain, that greatest of American satirists and proud son of Missouri, once wrote, “Patriotism is supporting your country all the time and your government when it deserves it.” That’s what patriotism is. That’s what patriotism is. ”

    And so, I guess that we can safely assume that he finds his minister, the Right Reverend Wright, to be unpatriotic with his statement of “No, no, no!! God d*** America”, as well as labeling his wife as unpatriotic since she said that America is a mean country. Wonder where that leaves him???

    Captcha: Varsity Ayres - Oh yeah. That university professor friend of Obama’s who likes to blow things up, especially America. You know - the patriot. :-)

  • 64 conserve-a-tip // Jul 1, 2008 at 9:48 am

    Well, I’m off for a day of toil. Y’all have a good one!

  • 65 upnorthlurkin // Jul 1, 2008 at 10:35 am

    Good morning Ladies (and Gents if any of them are around). We are finally in for a summer day! Highs near 90°! Well, it is summer after all! We are about a month behind, growing season wise! We had April/May temps in June. The skeeters are the size of helocopters! :lol:
    And….did I mention, Nobama is gonna be up here this week! The dhimmies are having cows!
    wv- back rubbed…now that would feel great!

  • 66 da Bunny // Jul 1, 2008 at 11:40 am

    Wow…it’s great to see many of the fine women of ScrappleFace posting again. :-)

    Ms RightWing, I’m so glad to know that you are back home, and that your surgery went as well as could be expected. God bless you in your continued recovery!

    upnorthlurkin, c-a-t, and Maggie…you are all in fine form on this lovely July day. Bless you all!!

  • 67 upnorthlurkin // Jul 1, 2008 at 12:33 pm

    Good Morning, da Bunny!! How are things in beautiful southern Cahl i fornia?! Is it smoky where you reside?!

  • 68 everthink // Jul 1, 2008 at 1:51 pm

    “The President is merely the most important among a large number of public servants. He should be supported or opposed exactly to the degree which is warranted by his good conduct or bad conduct, his efficiency or inefficiency in rendering loyal, able, and disinterested service to the Nation as a whole. Therefore it is absolutely necessary that there should be full liberty to tell the truth about his acts, and this means that it is exactly necessary to blame him when he does wrong as to praise him when he does right. Any other attitude in an American citizen is both base and servile. To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. Nothing but the truth should be spoken about him or any one else. But it is even more important to tell the truth, pleasant or unpleasant, about him than about any one else.”

    “Roosevelt in the Kansas City Star”, 149
    May 7, 1918

    ET

  • 69 da Bunny // Jul 1, 2008 at 2:10 pm

    upnorthlurkin #66… Nope, not smoky here. It’s beautiful and sunny, with temps in the low 70’s here on the coast. The local weather forecast is for more of the same for the holiday weekend.

    We certainly could use some rain here. I don’t recall the last time we had rain. :-( Last October was my first “fire season,” and a couple of those fires were within a few miles of us. I don’t scare easily, but getting a reverse 911 “evacuation” call from the local authorities was enough to cause anxiety…

    Perhaps the Obamessiah could make it rain here, and stop the wildfires in NorCal. I hope he can change the climate for the better here on the Left Coast. ;-)

  • 70 upnorthlurkin // Jul 1, 2008 at 2:29 pm

    da Bunny - if I were nuts (I think I’m close, but not quite there yet..) I’d go ask Mr. Changey McHoperson to send some rain your way. We sure don’t need any more for a month or so….(over 2 inches in the rain gauge this morning!)

  • 71 Fred Sinclair // Jul 1, 2008 at 5:04 pm

    UNL #10 - HELICOPTERS? They told about (when I was in the USAF) that at Biggs AFB, TX (El Paso) a Texas ’sketer’that landed and the ground crew pumped over 50,000 gallons of JP-4 fuel in it before they realized it wasn’t a B-52.

    The ’sketers’ in Michigan aren’t that big only about the size of a barn owl.

    Q. Have you ever been bitten by an Elephant?
    A. No.
    Q. Have you ever been bitten by a Rhino?
    A. No.
    Q. Have you ever been bitten by a Rhino?
    A. No.
    Q. Have you ever been bitten by a ’skeeter’?
    A. Yes.
    See! It’s the little things that will get you every time.

    I got my last ’skeeter’ bite in 1988. In Florida and here in Michigan I was a ’skeeter’ magnet.

    A friend told me about garlic oil. At his recommendation I began taking three 1500 mg gelcaps daily. Took about ten days, but since then - zero bites.
    An additional benefit; garlic acts like a boat anchor on blood pressure. Mine sits solid at 118/75.

    IN GOD WE TRUST

  • 72 Fred Sinclair // Jul 1, 2008 at 5:09 pm

    Proofreading might not be a bad idea, Fred. That third question word should be Hippo, not Rhino.

    Better luck next time.

    IN GOD WE TRUST

  • 73 conserve-a-tip // Jul 1, 2008 at 5:26 pm

    Helicopters, huh? Well, here in Okie land they aren’t quite that big, but if you come down here, you’ll see these large wooden boxes with a roof, with little perches just below a round hold in the front of the box. Those are mosquito houses. New Yorkers just use ‘em for birds. :-)

    I just finished canning dill pickles and am getting ready to juice apples to can. Already made a couple of batches of apple butter. Y’all come on down! The biscuits are hot.

    Captcha: Freebody to - anyone who needs a new one (or a different one)

  • 74 Libby Gone // Jul 1, 2008 at 7:26 pm

    ET 68,
    I agree. SO?

  • 75 mindknumbed kid // Jul 1, 2008 at 9:06 pm

    Somebody else own your mineral rights? No problem, just get them to sign a lease, hire a fellow with a rig (or just buy your own) and commence drilling. If you are lucky it will only set you back a couple million dollars. Then you sell all of that oil and pay your newly imposed “windfall profit tax” and apply for food stamps to put food on your table.
    I dunno, if the pill totin’ nurse is young and voluptuous, maybe I’d rather wake up to her. Mrs. MKK may not like that too well though.

  • 76 onlineanalyst // Jul 1, 2008 at 10:49 pm

    No, no, no, no, no. Dr. Harry Reid has diagnosed that oil and coal are making us sick.

  • 77 mindknumbed kid // Jul 1, 2008 at 11:00 pm

    I do feel sick to my wallet when I fill my tank, and when they double to quadruple my power bill I will feel ill also. But that is the good thing about the new improved modern day screwy light bulb, the higher your electric rates, the more they save you when you “choose” to use them!

  • 78 everthink // Jul 2, 2008 at 12:19 am

    “Screwy Light Bulbs” were invented by Algore, right after he invented the internet; but, that doesn’t mean there’s anything to that “Global Warming thing of his!

    It’s just a godless commie plot! Use candles!

    I heard once in America there was a president who set the national speed limit at 55 mph, and offered energy credits for using “screwy light bulbs”. But, along came a “savior” who put an end to that, and deregulated everything, giving big business the right to steal from you!

    Then, Slick Willie came along and tried to mess all that up. Now, after almost eight years of Dumbyah, we’re all having a full second dose of Republican greed and dishonesty.

    Now, can you read their ANWR flash card? (If you can, have a look at what’s happening to the Iraqi Oil Fields Saddam nationalized).

    ET

  • 79 MajorDomo // Jul 2, 2008 at 12:40 am

    ET, I’d lay odds that you haven’t the foggiest notion of the relationship between the proposed drilling site and ANWR. By the way, what does “ANWR” stand for?

    wv: Coogan arms… apartment complex at Coogan’s bluff

  • 80 camojack // Jul 2, 2008 at 1:31 am

    MajorDomo // Jun 30, 2008 at 9:46 pm
    Camo: Hope you enjoy your stay. I spent three winters there (Eielson AFB) ‘68-’71, and can truthfully say that I watched beautiful displays of Northern Lights from North Pole. Is Club 11 still there?

    No Northern Lights this time of year; it’s never dark enough. I did see a video presentation about them in Anchorage on Saturday, though. I know nothing about any Club 11, however.

    Beerme // Jun 30, 2008 at 10:21 pm
    Camo,
    Enjoy the last frontier! I’m jealous…

    Denali is AWESOME!!! I’ve been taking lots of pictures there the past couple of days.

    Tomorrow it’s off to Fairbanks…

  • 81 everthink // Jul 2, 2008 at 2:03 am

    MajorDomo,

    ANWR: Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. Your question seems kinda insulting; but feel free to ask anyway. Remember while there are dumb questions, it is even dumber not to ask one.

    You’d win your bet; not the foggiest!

    How about double, or nothing, on whether drilling rights are sold?

    Democrats will close the Enron Loophole, and move rapidly to reduce America’s energy dependence on oil. We’ll start in 202 days.

    Yes, We Will!

    ET

  • 82 Fred Sinclair // Jul 2, 2008 at 7:56 am

    e.t. Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! You’ve come through again, I really was in need of a good belly rolling laugh, and thanks to you, I got it! 202 days indeed, in your dreams.

    America doesn’t have enough money to afford B.O.

    Perhaps B.O. and algore plan to become the planet’s first Trillionaires with ‘kickbacks’ from China from the multi, multi, multi, multi, multi, multi, Trillions of dollars sent to the only manufacturer of screwball CFL’s with 16 bulbs per traffic signal, auto headlights, etc. at $3.50 per bulb, plus all of america’s households, China can afford to return a portion of their profits to their sponsors.

    IN GOD WE TRUST

  • 83 Fred Sinclair // Jul 2, 2008 at 7:58 am

    pushin…

  • 84 gafisher // Jul 2, 2008 at 8:08 am

    Ms RW Re#43: May God grant you a speedy recovery.

    C-A-T Re#48: “Leaded” gas was developed to replace alcohol in gasoline; alcohol worked better, cost less and wasn’t (as) poisonous, but (like sunshine) was impossible to monopolize. Of course, that was in the days of lower compression ratios and lower demands on engines; today’s engines can’t handle their booze unless they’re designed for it, so “gasahol” pumps were supposed to use a different nozzle that wouldn’t fit the filler on a non-gasaholic car. I wonder what ever happened to that requirement.

    (BTW, most GM cars have been built for “E-85″ — 15% alcohol — fuel for several years; if someone ordered the “E-85 Option” what they got for the extra money was a different gas cap. Last year GM finally ‘fessed up and sent E-85 gas caps to all the folks who hadn’t bought the E-85 option.) Oh, and guess who was a big proponent of E-85 before he became an opponent of it.

  • 85 gafisher // Jul 2, 2008 at 8:56 am

    et Re#68: I seem to recall seeing that back in the ’90s. The meaning of ‘is’ and all that.

    Re#78: Oh, yeah, I remember the deregulation of the railroads, the oil industry, trucking, airlines, interest rates — Ralph Nader thought the President was nuts for enacting those, but history shows that, although implemented badly, deregulation was one of the few bright points in Jimmy Carter’s generally dismal Presidency.

  • 86 gafisher // Jul 2, 2008 at 9:13 am

    MajorDomo Re#79: ANWR is an A**-Numbing Wilderness Region not far from where Jimmy Carter had the Alaska Pipeline built.

  • 87 gafisher // Jul 2, 2008 at 9:31 am

    Getting back to Congressional confusion about the “individual right to drill” and the unquestionable combustibility and potential usefulness of biofuels, perhaps it’s time to “drop the drill and build a still.”

    [Of course, if the Democrat Party, per et, thinks it needs another 200-plus days to start the work Republicans have been doing for decades, implementing the Home Fuel industry will obviously require returning the Dems to minority (ideally vanishing minority) status.]

  • 88 everthink // Jul 2, 2008 at 1:08 pm

    Fred,

    “Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! You’ve come through again, I really was in need of a good belly rolling laugh, and thanks to you, I got it! 202 days indeed, in your dreams.”

    Maybe you could arrange a “Belly Rolling Laugh-In” for Scrapplefaces next January 20th!

    That way you can join the rest of America in a celebration, the likes of which never seen before, marking the end of the Bush Tyranny, and for all practical purposes, the Republican Party.

    ET

  • 89 everthink // Jul 2, 2008 at 1:17 pm

    Dumbyah’s pardoning ability is limited to Federal Crimes, but he can’t pardon himself! In addition, several States Attorneys will file charges related to capital crimes. Oh, what a glorious day, that too, will be.

    ET

  • 90 everthink // Jul 2, 2008 at 1:29 pm

    I find nothing, whatever, wrong with Clark’s comments. Please, please launch your “Swiftboats”, and watch our 527s respond.

    MoveOn is ready!

    ET

  • 91 mindknumbed kid // Jul 2, 2008 at 3:43 pm

    At least the MorrvOns think they are ready. About as ready as AllGore’s movie, without real facts and a bunch of leaping ti conclusions over gaping holes in evidence that only exists in their convoluted brainless matter left in their heads after a few lines of cocaine and several joints of wacky tobacky. What a day it is gonna be when they lay out their case and look like the morons they really are, eh?

    No doubt that you see nothing wrong with Clark’s comments, you also see nothing wrong with your Obamanable presidential candidate. That is all a joke, but nobody laughs at sheer stupidity when it comes to the death of the American culture and the end of greatness as a nation. It will no doubt thrill your heart when and if this Socialist puke is elected and joins the Palestinians efforts to push Israel into the sea. When your enemies like your candidate, there is definitely something wrong, intelligent, thinking people see that from a million miles away. The key to him being elected is how mindless this generation of American voters proves to be.

    Remember now, when every other kook jumps in front of the bus you need to jump too.

  • 92 mindknumbed kid // Jul 2, 2008 at 3:45 pm

    Searching for #91 and #92, come out, come out wherever you are…

  • 93 mindknumbed kid // Jul 2, 2008 at 3:49 pm

    It’s moderating time, tune in later when you’ll hear the MKK say go get a Goo-Gooâ„¢, it’s good.

  • 94 MajorDomo // Jul 2, 2008 at 10:38 pm

    Thank you, ET for your admission. Now let me enlighten you. The relationship between the proposed drilling site and the ANWR is about the same as that between a 1.75-mile square plot of land in an area the size of Minnesota. That site is actually on a barren coastal plain. All those beautiful photos your lib friends like to show of the ANWR is far, far removed from that useless wasteland.

    That wasteland, and anything that happens to live there, aren’t going to care a whit whether drilling occurs!

    Knowing the facts should make any reasonable person who would like to see gasoline at $2.00 a gallon again bristle. All that gorp about pristine wilderness being disturbed by oil esploration is like carbon credits: blue smoke and snake oil! It is like the stupidity that held up construction of the Alaska pipeline. I lived there when the pipeline lay in piles at the U. of Alaska. The Fairbanks newspaper printed one hilarious letter from a “concerned citizen” in Miami, Florida spouting all sorts of misinformation about the North Slope. That person fit Ronald Reagan’s discription of Liberals very aptly. “It’s not that they’re ignorant, it’s just that they know so much that isn’t true!”

    My advice to you is, before you spout off again about oil exploration in and around ANWR, that you actually go and spend a year there at the drill site. Get to know the terrain. Get to know the habits of wildlife (if you can find it) there.

    Maybe you and your Lib friends can, while you’re there, learn of the millions of dollars investment required to get the oil out of the ground, once drilling starts. You know, the investment paid out by those money-hungry, greedy oil companies, just to see that you have gas to burn in your SUV.

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