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81% Say US on Wrong Track, 48% to Stay Anyway

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(2008-04-04) — The most recent New York Times/CBS News Poll indicates that while 81 percent of Americans think “things have pretty seriously gotten off on the wrong track“, roughly 48 percent have decided to stay in the United States anyway.

The survey also indicates that more than 70 percent said their personal financial situation was “fairly good or very good“, but only 21 percent think “the overall economy is in good condition” thanks to the well-known economic principle that individual prosperity produces collective misery.

A spokesman for the polling firm said, “We’re seeing a perfect storm of low unemployment, high wages, unprecedented access by more people to more choices than anywhere in the world at any time in history, thanks to technology and distribution systems that can bring any product or service to your door in 24 hours or less, and to people who have so much money that several multi-billion dollar industries exist just so folks can play with their extra cash. No wonder Americans are worried.”

The pollster also noted that generally good health and increasing lifespans magnify the problem.

“Because Americans are living longer than ever,” he said, “they have to put up with all this for a long, long time. The anxiety sparked by rampant opportunity and nearly-unrestrained freedom is the biggest challenge that faces the next president.”

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107 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Hawkeye // Apr 4, 2008 at 7:26 am

    Well, if the Democrats have their way, they will bring some “change”…

    Then we will be on the “right track”, but everyone will be getting taxed to death. That’s what you call “progress”… :shock:

  • 2 Libby Gone // Apr 4, 2008 at 7:27 am

    I blame Bush and the illegal, failing war in Iraq.
    wv: Edwina between, Steve Martin and Lily Tomlin

  • 3 Hawkeye // Apr 4, 2008 at 7:50 am

    Fred,
    On the last thread you asked about the price of gasoline. Go HERE for a historical chart. If you go to the drop-down box below the graph, you can change the time period and look back up to 6 years.

    office Requiem — long live the office.

  • 4 upnorthlurkin // Apr 4, 2008 at 8:04 am

    Brilliantly written, Scott! The libs’ politics of envy is alive and well and change is clearly in order…ha! ;-)

  • 5 gafisher // Apr 4, 2008 at 8:05 am

    “… roughly 48 percent have decided to stay in the United States anyway.”

    92% of those are first-generation Americans, two thirds of which are also undocumented aliens.

    Speaking from Michigan I can’t say things are all that rosy.

  • 6 Libby Gone // Apr 4, 2008 at 8:13 am

    gafisher,
    Come on, Premier Granholm told us we’d be “Blown Away” in some 5 year Central Committee Economic Plan.

  • 7 boberinyetagain // Apr 4, 2008 at 8:17 am

    This sums it up pretty well, right out of the article…

    “Only 4 percent of survey respondents said the country was better off than it was five years ago, while 78 percent said it was worse, the newspaper said.”

    We bail out firms like Bear Stearns and the lead man gets some 67 million while millions of others get squat. Thus 4% of folks are much, much better off and 78% are pissed.
    But, it makes the overall #s very nice, “averages” out nicely.

    travis greenwald…the man, the myth, the legend

  • 8 boberinyetagain // Apr 4, 2008 at 8:23 am

    I’m guessing these are part of the 78%, just guessing..

    “U.S. employers slashed 80,000 jobs in March, the biggest monthly job decline in five years, as the economy headed into a downturn. “

  • 9 JamesonLewis3rd // Apr 4, 2008 at 8:28 am

    That “poll” is so vague and lacking in context that I nearly went berserk before I finished the 4th paragraph. I found myself muttering to myself, “What in the [bleep] are they basing these conclusions upon!?!”

    Do you feel things in this country are generally going in the right direction or do you feel things have pretty seriously gotten off on the wrong track?

    Query: What kind of blatantly grammatically incorrect question is THAT!?!

    I mean, forget its masterfully nebulous ambiguity…..

    It’s A Poll of FEELINGS!!!!! AND THINGS!!!!!

    :shock:

  • 10 onlineanalyst // Apr 4, 2008 at 8:30 am

    Maestro Scott, that last paragraph hits your point out of the park. (Well, the whole piece is singular in its biting accuracy.)

    Unfortunately for themselves and their nation, too many Americans are afraid of their own freedom, for with that factor, they have the freedom to fail along with the freedom to succeed. The ninnies are so frightened by that personal responsibility for themselves and the possibility of failure that they clamor for guarantees… even if getting those guarantees provides less than what they could have achieved for themselves and costs them their freedoms.

    While driving on a mission of mercy yesterday, I heard a local talk-radio host cite the employment statistics and economic situation of both the current Bush years and the former Clinton years. What was touted as the golden era of Bubba is statistically on par with what is being portrayed as impending Depression of the Bush administration. The public is being duped by a negative media message repeated daily.

    Rather than focusing on their false “neediness” and their envy, Americans would fare much happier by developing an attitude of gratitude. If they want to change their own personal situations, they need to invest in a little sweat equity and take advantage of their freedom to do so.

  • 11 Ms RightWing, Ink // Apr 4, 2008 at 8:36 am

    Nearly 100 percent said no matter how bad things are they hoped they could still have at least one more breath and also hoped their heart would continue to beat.

    62 percent said they hoped the same for their neighbors and work associates.

  • 12 JamesonLewis3rd // Apr 4, 2008 at 8:39 am

    This sums it up pretty well, right out of the article…

    What article?

    We bail out firms like Bear Stearns and the lead man gets some 67 million while millions of others get squat.

    Prove it.

  • 13 Ms RightWing, Ink // Apr 4, 2008 at 8:43 am

    Oh, these are some of the people who hoped for one more breath. In some cases, the heartbeat could not be found.

    http://www.jessicaswell.com/images/HillaryCabinet.gif

  • 14 always right // Apr 4, 2008 at 9:24 am

    the well-known economic principle that individual prosperity produces collective misery.

    You forgot it only applies to WHEN a Repub is in the WH or in control of the Congress.
    Otherwise, the same (or worse) economic indeces produce “Unprecedented Prosperity” as in the good old Clinton years.

  • 15 Pseudo-Polymath » Blog Archive » Friday Highlights // Apr 4, 2008 at 9:37 am

    [...] Looking at polls on where we’re headed. [...]

  • 16 upnorthlurkin // Apr 4, 2008 at 9:51 am

    Amen to OLA #10 and Always Right # 14!!
    Bob, your personal “misery index” is tiresome as usual. I only hope your constant whining blather improves your disposition.

  • 17 Maggie // Apr 4, 2008 at 9:52 am

    The only change we are getting from the Dims is “Chump Change”.

    wv: faded five-story
    I am at a loss to caption this one.
    Hawkeye or libby or anyone else, give it a try.

  • 18 onlineanalyst // Apr 4, 2008 at 10:11 am

    Aw, come on, Maggie. How about this:
    Madame Hillary! hoped that her five-story versions of the Tuzla adventure have faded into the memory hole.

    BTW Is anyone else bothered by Chelsea’s complicitness through silence in her mother’s fairy tales? Jogging in the park while the Trade Center towers burned? Corkscrew landings and running under sniper fire in Bosnia?

    WV: Waddell directors

    I think that this is a typo. If anyone saw the video clip of Madame Hillary! on the Leno Show, posted at Hot Air, the pantsuit queen must have challenged the directors of the program when she waddled her way into her guest seat.

  • 19 boberinyetagain // Apr 4, 2008 at 10:23 am

    JL3, my pleasure
    03/25/08
    CAYNE JAMES ELLIOT Director Sell
    5,612,922
    $10.84

    Granted, 2 weeks earlier he could have sold for nearly 20 times as much.
    Then again, 1 week earlier the offer was less than 1/5 of this, $2.00/share. He didn’t sell then, he waited for the real bailout

  • 20 Maggie // Apr 4, 2008 at 10:29 am

    OLA ,

    Your wv caption was right-on. Great job.

    Yes! I’m bothered that the quality of “TRUTH,JUSTICE, and THE AMERICAN WAY” has been relagated to “I mispoke”.We really do need a change.

  • 21 Maggie // Apr 4, 2008 at 10:36 am

    00ps! I misspelled relegate.

  • 22 Ms RightWing, Ink // Apr 4, 2008 at 10:49 am

    Oh dear, I know that nobody looked at the link on 13. I see ( hear) no screams of fear. Oh well, let these Clinton fans be left to their own devices

    ““Because Americans are living longer than ever,” he said, “they have to put up with all this for a long, long time. “”

    ahhh!

  • 23 RedPepper // Apr 4, 2008 at 10:56 am

    Ms. RW #22: “ … Americans are living longer than ever … ”

    Well - on average, I suppose …

    Cops: Texas teen tried to flush newborn .

  • 24 Ms RightWing, Ink // Apr 4, 2008 at 11:15 am

    re:23

    She could very well have been a Katrina transplant. After all what happened in the Big Easy, stayed in the Big Easy.

  • 25 JamesonLewis3rd // Apr 4, 2008 at 11:26 am

    RE: #19~~
    I was hoping for Facts [in the face of which your comment flew, otherwise I wouldn't bother---but misinformation cannot be allowed to stand and must be countered], not feelings, opinions or side-steps masquerading as factual data:

    What article was quoted? What article was it quoting? And what was that article quoting?

    What “bail-out”?
    What “firms like Bear Stearns”?
    Where did the “some 67 millions” come from?
    Who are the “millions of others gets squat”?
    “[O]thers” of what?
    “[S]quat” compared to what?

    [Aside]:
    Huh?

  • 26 Shelly // Apr 4, 2008 at 11:56 am

    Ms. RW, YIKES! Those women might actually be Bill-proof.

    James, you’d think Obama wouldn’t want to see the Capitol destroyed, what with having worked there for a couple of years now, but I guess not. He’d dither and blather and do little else.

  • 27 Beerme // Apr 4, 2008 at 11:57 am

    Libby Gone,

    Amen to that “blown away”, Five Year Plan! I was blown away before she even got the second term!

    “Back in bowl”, Jennifer!

    WV: R charge-Not exactly the battlecry for the McCain candidacy…

  • 28 Beerme // Apr 4, 2008 at 11:59 am

    Pushing…

  • 29 boberinyetagain // Apr 4, 2008 at 1:23 pm

    JL3, the stock sale shown is from any stock ticker service under “insider trading”. Besides that it was in the newspaper. Both are quite accurate, the head of Bear Stearns got some 67 million. As I said, 2 weeks prior he could have gotten almost 20 times that much but only 1 week earlier he could have only gotten $2/share. Then came the (re) bailout (the first one was the $2/share, obviously not acceptable) so “we” upped the offer so the poor man (men) wouldn’t be cash strapped.
    Those affected were the run of the mill shareholders and the employees. I’ll leave it to you to count those up if you choose but a stock that was worth $180/share a year ago was worth $30 on black Friday and by Monday morning it was worth $2. Then came the “miracle” counter offer of $10+.
    Tons of losers, the “elite” not really among them. All on our dime. Those that play the games come out fine, those that got played, in this case, have to bail them out.

    These are among those that are not that thrilled with how things are going…

    “Adding to the bleak picture, the department said a combined 152,000 jobs were lost in January and February”

    If you can’t find the articles that list these #s you really are not trying very hard. That’s for 2 months….

  • 30 JamesonLewis3rd // Apr 4, 2008 at 1:54 pm

    Okay.

    The article quoted does not exist. Check.
    Corroborating facts do not exist. Check.

    Thank you

  • 31 Fred Sinclair // Apr 4, 2008 at 2:03 pm

    Our Constitution, and our adherence to it, has in a little over 200 years resulted in These United States of America becoming the greatest nation on earth. Greatly surpassing other countries with thousands of years of history.

    Unfortunately approximately half of the resident citizens are committed to doing everything in their power to change that reality.

    In opposition to those liberals there is Senator Jim Inhofe (R) Oklahoma who is dedicated to upholding all of our Constitution, in the most conservative manner possible.

    A country is actually an idea, surrounded by secure borders. Without those secure borders, we do not have a country. Jim, along with Duncan Hunter (R) Congressman from the 52 District in California and Judge Janice Rogers Brown (R) Federal Appeals Court, Washington D.C. are perhaps the best we have in politics to defeat the liberals.

    Heirborn Ranger

    WV - is tached - in the head?

  • 32 gafisher // Apr 4, 2008 at 2:17 pm

    Bober Re: “… 2 weeks prior he could have gotten almost 20 times that much …

    You’re envious of a 95% loss? In two weeks?

    wv - Time snarls - and snares, bites and tears.

  • 33 boberinyetagain // Apr 4, 2008 at 2:35 pm

    JL3, do you know how to check a stock and view the insider trading transactions? Apparently not which doesn’t make me look even a tiny bit foolish, quite the opposite.

    For the unemployment figures, they were released by the Federal Government earlier today. You apparent inability to find any reference to current news stories is not that endearing either.

    Keep you head up your….in the sand and try to ridicule me. That’ll work!

  • 34 prettyold // Apr 4, 2008 at 2:37 pm

    Ms RightWing, If Hillary puts those ladies in her cabinet, I hope she gets good strong locks for the cabinet doors,and a chain and lock for the fridge. They do all have nice tiny feet though.

  • 35 prettyold // Apr 4, 2008 at 2:44 pm

    I have lived on the wrong side of the tracks and I have lived on the right side of the tracks. Oh, I didn’t move it just depends on whether I am comeing or going. Since no Democrat knows whther they are coming or going,they won’t even know it if they change tracks.
    But they will feeeel good.

    bribes lin,Huh? I thought they called him linc.

  • 36 prettyold // Apr 4, 2008 at 2:49 pm

    bober ,nobody here has to try to ridicule you,you take care of that all by yourself.

  • 37 boberinyetagain // Apr 4, 2008 at 2:54 pm

    ga, nope but the 500% markup that the next week earned him will probably keep him out of the poor house (if he invests the 67 million wisely of course, not in a company he is running) while shareholders and employees may well need to get accustomed to the taste of dog food, especially any that were in or near retirement. Their 95% loss is a tad harder to swallow so to speak

  • 38 Shelly // Apr 4, 2008 at 3:01 pm

    prettyold, well said!

    James, bob can’t help himself. If it’s in an article it simply has to be true. Isn’t everything you read?

  • 39 da Bunny // Apr 4, 2008 at 3:10 pm

    “the well-known economic principle that individual prosperity produces collective misery”

    One of your best lines ever, Scott!! :-) This “my life is bad because someone else succeeds” theory is the simple-minded basis for every confiscatory “plan” the Marxist/Leftist Liberals have to seize and retain power.

  • 40 Shelly // Apr 4, 2008 at 3:10 pm

    Speaking of articles, Drudge has “Clinton Denies Denial After ‘Mishearing.’” I guess she was for denying before she was against it.

    And as for the dog food, isn’t it a shame we don’t have anything like Unemployment, Food Stamps, Food Banks, and other charities in this country? If only America wasn’t such a lousy place and we could find just one thing to like about it. But then we might be happy about something. We can’t have that.

  • 41 upnorthlurkin // Apr 4, 2008 at 3:12 pm

    I will remind y’all not to argue with idjits…..it’s hard from a distance to tell the difference….
    Oh goodness….rumor has it both dhimmi candidates are in my state this afternoon/evening…..a mere 80 miles north of me. How will I live with myself if I don’t make the trip?!! PPppppptttttthhhhh!

  • 42 JamesonLewis3rd // Apr 4, 2008 at 3:31 pm

    Changing the subject does not change the fact that everything you said in #7 is either a falsehood (as in the existence of the alleged “article”) or worn-out anti-American rhetoric with no basis in fact (as in the rest).

    You cannot prove a single word.

  • 43 boberinyetagain // Apr 4, 2008 at 3:38 pm

    Shelly, so you’re another one that doesn’t believe the federal government eh? Good for you! You go girl

  • 44 da Bunny // Apr 4, 2008 at 3:39 pm

    unl, you mean you don’t want to hear either of the dhimmi buffoons tell you how well you’ll be taken care of once they’re elected? You don’t want to hear the empty promises about troop “pull-outs” and “free” healthcare? You don’t want to hear blatant lies and “embellishments” about the lives and experiences of these two poseurs?

  • 45 upnorthlurkin // Apr 4, 2008 at 3:43 pm

    Ahh…two of my favorite “sistahs” post while I’m struggling to compose my puny post! You too, Mrs. Pretty!! And, may I be one of the first to wish you Happy Birthday!! ;-)

  • 46 boberinyetagain // Apr 4, 2008 at 3:47 pm

    JL3, denying easily verifiable facts is not a good way to look intelligent but hey, entirely up to you.
    I verified the stock sale and proceed thereof and the “article” is todays lead story on every news wire.

  • 47 upnorthlurkin // Apr 4, 2008 at 3:51 pm

    daBunny - I’m just glad fuel is over 3 bucks a gallon….what better excuse not to make the trip?! And no….unlike Bob coveting his neighbors’ everything I don’t want the gov’t to take care of me or mine…..just look at what a good job they do on the Indian reservations… that’s what the USA is going to look like if these pinko dhimmis get their way.
    (Of course I’m kidding….I wouldn’t waste time listening to either one of those two liars. I can’t imagine how uncomfortable I’d be in the presence of so many America haters either.)

  • 48 camojack // Apr 4, 2008 at 3:58 pm

    Too bad 100% of the dissatisfied don’t just leave.

    They wouldn’t be missed much, I bet…

  • 49 da Bunny // Apr 4, 2008 at 4:00 pm

    Speaking of “rich white people”:

    http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080404/clinton_taxes.html?.v=1

    Hmmm, based on their own leftist bilge, that means that it’s Billary’s fault that I’m not rich and don’t have whatever I want or need whenever I want or need it. Because they “have it,” I don’t.

  • 50 da Bunny // Apr 4, 2008 at 4:10 pm

    upnorthlurkin re : #47, I wouldn’t make the trip, either…even if gas were still $1.50/gallon. :-)

    camo re: #48…I can guarantee you that I wouldn’t miss them at all! :lol:

  • 51 Shelly // Apr 4, 2008 at 5:10 pm

    camojack, if only.

    da Bunny & UNL, I wouldn’t make the trip if a limo and driver were $1.50. And there were door prizes. (Is Bill there too? Or is it too dangerous for him?)

    Also, any garlic-noses here? If so, check out the picture of a restaurant sign at Cassandra’s blog, linked by Scott above.

  • 52 Fred Sinclair // Apr 4, 2008 at 5:24 pm

    This years best April Fool’s joke that I heard, went smething like this….”I hear through the grapevine about a Democrat that got elected to office, and soon thereafter fulfilled one of his campaign promises to a “t”………………………..ha. ha, ha, ha. - APRIL FOOL !!!”

    Couldn’t pull it off though, none of his Democrats, even the ones that voted for him was suckered in by such a blatant lie.

    Heirborn Ranger

  • 53 Ms RightWing, Ink // Apr 4, 2008 at 5:29 pm

    The price of gas be darned, (family friendly) I am heading for Niagara Falls in the morning. I hope to buy some really neat souvenirs like the snowy things you shake to make it look like a blizzard, some refrigerator magnets and maybe some T-Shirts reminding those back home that the purchasers had all the fun, not those who got stuck with cheap Nicaraguan apparel.

    Due to the fact I have no passport I have to stay on American soil and allow the Indians to sell me cheap poker chips and (cough ) cigarettes.

    WV: scandals housing-someone call Hillary, quick

  • 54 mindknumbed kid // Apr 4, 2008 at 5:41 pm

    Camo - Maybe some resourceful person could figure some way to help them OUT…

    wv: tacks Seminary - never heard of it. Maybe where the Rev. Wright got his schooling? He seems to be somewhat tacky to me.

  • 55 prettyold // Apr 4, 2008 at 6:04 pm

    da’Bunny said“Because they “have it,” I don’t
    So thanks to greedy Hillbilly , you have to eat dog food? The least the she could do ,is get you some bunny food.
    I guess now we all have to start worrying about what the Dogs are going to eat.
    It makes my heart bleed to think of those poor unemployed Dogs lined up at the Doggie Soup kitchens.What would one use to make Soup for Dogs?………Maybe bones?

    Happy early Birthday to you ,too,upnorthlurkin’. Have a good one.

    tomorrow earnings What we will live without if the Democrats get in power.

  • 56 mindknumbed kid // Apr 4, 2008 at 7:08 pm

    What, are you guys sating that the Gravy Trainâ„¢ is no more? This is very disturbing as I have two adult dogs in my house. I may have to rethink my vote, is either of the dimmercrony candidates promising anything for my dogs? I gotta see if I can search this out right now!

  • 57 JamesonLewis3rd // Apr 4, 2008 at 7:31 pm

    Well, which is it!?!
    Are we going to be eating Kibbles & Bits or Each Other!?!

    For starters, I’m going to eat that Dog down the block that barks incessantly, day and night, for no reason.
    Pass me the Salt and the A-1, please.
    Thank you

  • 58 mindknumbed kid // Apr 4, 2008 at 7:38 pm

    I see that my t and y keys switched places again, I have no warning when it is going to happen… I’ll try to watch them more closely.
    I couldn’t find where either of the two have taken a position on dogs, someone needs to step up to the dish.

  • 59 mindknumbed kid // Apr 4, 2008 at 7:43 pm

    JL3 - Under the current regulations Dog food cannot be purchased using food stamps/EBT. So unless there are changes in the regulations, it will be each other, after all the dogs and cats are finished off.

  • 60 mindknumbed kid // Apr 4, 2008 at 7:47 pm

    Is this site running slow lately, or is my laptop in a funk? I get the page quick, but the comments are taking a while to get there.

  • 61 da Bunny // Apr 4, 2008 at 8:04 pm

    mkk, the “comments” are very slow to show up for me, as well. Sometimes they don’t show up at all…

    prettyold, I’m not eating dog [or bunny] food. When I said Hillary “has it” and I don’t, I meant her $$millions$$. And, my darling dog won’t be standing in any Doggie Soup Kitchen lines as long as there’s anything that I can do about it. :-)

    JL3rd, don’t eat that poor barking dog down the street. It’s not the dog’s fault, it’s the fault of the owners who neglect the dog. Call the police, and if they won’t do anything about it, call the local Humane Society. A dog that is left outside to bark at all hours is being mistreated and neglected, and should be removed from that sorry excuse for a home.

  • 62 mindknumbed kid // Apr 4, 2008 at 8:16 pm

    I dunno, sometimes my wife wakes up barking and keeps it up all day long, so it may not be the owner’s fault….

  • 63 prettyold // Apr 4, 2008 at 8:40 pm

    mkk, does she whine and want to go out? I sure do ,but it doesn’t always work.Then I snarl,that doesn’t always work either .Whimpering works best.

    formely term ????

  • 64 gafisher // Apr 4, 2008 at 8:49 pm

    MsRW Re#53: “Due to the fact I have no passport I have to stay on American soil …

    You’ll only need a passport if you fly; until April of next year a copy of your Birth Certificate and a State-issued photo ID (driver’s license, etc.) will get you back and forth just fine.

    My wife and I travel to Canada quite regularly; I have a passport but she hasn’t got hers yet, and we’ve never had a problem.

  • 65 mindknumbed kid // Apr 4, 2008 at 9:19 pm

    I think it is a mystery, 15 years ago I think she wanted a date with Eric Estrada, nowadays she might be wanting me to run away so her dog doesn’t have to sleep on the floor while I am in bed. Perhaps if they could go out and chase cars together it would settle her down…

  • 66 onlineanalyst // Apr 4, 2008 at 9:21 pm

    The skies over the upper Midwest will be ablaze with candles, raising AGW to alarming levels, and the air will be filled with sounds of raucous celebration on 4/6 as UNL and prettyold raise a toast to another year. Happy birthday to two terrific cyberfriends.

    Re the topic of AGW: Ted Turner promises that we will all have to resort to cannibalism, so attempting to use food stamps for dog food will not be a problem. As far as Fido’s nutritional needs go, it will be a dog-eat-dog world.

  • 67 mindknumbed kid // Apr 4, 2008 at 9:23 pm

    Excuse me while I put or push the cat out.

  • 68 mindknumbed kid // Apr 4, 2008 at 9:33 pm

    Did anyone ask Ted whether it will be a man-eat-man world/woman-eat-woman or will it be anything goes? If there are still iSlamajihadists in the mix I wil go for the pigs as long as they are available for consuming.

  • 69 mindknumbed kid // Apr 4, 2008 at 10:05 pm

    I’m thinkin’ if I am going to be the meal I would rather nourish Bo Derek than Ted Turner…

  • 70 Ms RightWing, Ink // Apr 4, 2008 at 10:12 pm

    re:64

    Great, I can go to the Ripley’s Believe It or Not Museum and go see the hot chicks on parade festival

    http://www.jessicaswell.com/images/HillaryCabinet.gif

    Oh darn, that web site is stuck on my copy button.

    Oh well, just don’t go there.

    Roswell Union: The new United Flying Saucer Union

  • 71 JamesonLewis3rd // Apr 5, 2008 at 7:29 am

    According to a recent article which purported to quote a recent article that allegedly quoted an unnamed source who ostensibly quoted some unverifiable poll results:

    This weekend is going to be absolutely Perfect! for Racing.
    The track’s 32 miles from here. #88 is going to win tomorrow. I don’t have a ticket. [wah sniffle wah sob wah] oh, the humanity…..

  • 72 upnorthlurkin // Apr 5, 2008 at 8:16 am

    JL3, I can’t believe I’m saying this but I covet your weather!! Two of the Horsemen of the Apocalypse left our state (ND) last night and along with their huge carbon footprint, and a giant sucking sound (from their private planes I assume) left our poor area with a Winter Storm Warning!! Whaaaaat’s up with that?! It’s April!!! I saw a couple of poor tulips poking their little leaves out of the ground yesterday!! Where are all the gore-ons and their global warming?!

  • 73 RedPepper // Apr 5, 2008 at 8:19 am

    upnorthlurkin, prettyold: Hope you both enjoy yourselves tomorrow, young ladies.

    As Spock used to say, “Live long and prosper.”

  • 74 Maggie // Apr 5, 2008 at 9:08 am

    Dear Miss PrettyYoung and Upnorthlurkin,

    Happy ,Happy Birthday to my dear friends and Scrapplemates.May God give you many more.

    I must add this as a safety precaution;as you light your birthday candles,remember to Stop Drop and Roll.(rock and roll)

  • 75 Maggie // Apr 5, 2008 at 9:14 am

    Uh Oh! I forgot to add ‘Go UNC ‘!!!!
    Go Heels!!!! Go Hansbrough!!!

    Predicting: UNC #UNO

  • 76 JamesonLewis3rd // Apr 5, 2008 at 12:17 pm

    B. B. King sings The Chill is On

  • 77 JamesonLewis3rd // Apr 5, 2008 at 12:29 pm

    Here it is—The Holy Grail of All Solutions…..
    Repeal the 22nd Amendment, NOW!
    Re-Elect George W. Bush in 2008!!!!!

  • 78 Fred Sinclair // Apr 5, 2008 at 1:43 pm

    prettyold #72 - I will begin to listen a little more closely to Algore and others of his ilk, when it can be reliably shown that he and they have sold all of their beachfront properties and have bought and/or are building their new homes in the Denver area or similar locations in the upper reaches of the Rocky Mountains. Until then they are Scam artists and Hoax ridden crooks.

    Great Britain seems to be onto him - Excerpt from OneNewsNow - “Gore’s group The Alliance for Climate Protection is currently launching a new $300 million ad campaign that demands reforms in environmental law to help reduce the supposed “climate crisis.” But Monckton points out that in the U.K., Gore is not allowed to speak in public about his “green investment company” because to do so would violate racketeering laws by “peddling a false prospectus.” He says that fact came about after a British high court found Gore’s movie, An Inconvenient Truth, riddled with errors.”

    Heirborn Ranger

  • 79 Fred Sinclair // Apr 5, 2008 at 1:54 pm

    Instead of prettyold #72 - oops I was reading about birthdays and got switched around.

    Should have read upnorthlurkin #72 - my bad.

    Heirborn Ranger

  • 80 camojack // Apr 5, 2008 at 2:15 pm

    da Bunny // Apr 4, 2008 at 4:10 pm
    camo re: #48…I can guarantee you that I wouldn’t miss them at all! :lol:

    Me neither, my friend; not even a little bit. ;-)

    Shelly // Apr 4, 2008 at 5:10 pm
    camojack, if only.

    It would make America a nicer place for the rest of us.

    mindknumbed kid // Apr 4, 2008 at 5:41 pm
    Camo - Maybe some resourceful person could figure some way to help them OUT…

    “Out” being the operative word, yes. It seems the ones who complain the loudest can well afford to skedaddle, too…

  • 81 upnorthlurkin // Apr 5, 2008 at 2:54 pm

    Fred, no sweat…happens to the best of us!! Tee Hee!
    Camo - why are they so intent on ruining our country?! There are still plenty of places ruled by dictators and various other thugs where I’m just sure they’d be welcome! There are plenty of socialist/Marxist countries where they could live out their whiney little lives…..just leave us (U.S.) alone to live with liberty and freedom!

    wv $75000 peanuts - not up here it ain’t!! (unless I wanted to waste it all on gasoline….then it won’t go very far….)

  • 82 onlineanalyst // Apr 5, 2008 at 4:14 pm

    Happy birthday to our birthday commenters, upnorthlurkin and pretty old.

    Gore-bull warming? The lastest stunt these scam artists are trying to pull is a claim that volcanic activity will increase because of climate change. Uh, no. The exact opposite occurs. When too many volcanic particulates are in the atmosphere, they affect global temperature.

    The other hoax has to do with renewable sources of energy. Scientists are now coming to believe that oil is not a fossil fuel at all. They are speculating that it is generated from deep within the earth’s core. Some oil sources once thought to be depleted are spewing forth oil again.

    Citizens of the US/world should tar and feather these scam artists promoting Gore-bull warming/climate change and run them out on a rail. These charlatans are lining their pockets with speaking engagements and ponzi schemes of extortionary carbon credits. They are destroying world economies and seizing power that they were not elected to have.

  • 83 gafisher // Apr 5, 2008 at 4:26 pm

    Well, at least the Clintons are more charitable than the Gores were in that famous episode where Al and Tipper were revealed to have given a whopping $353.00 (three hundred and fifty three dollars) to charity in 1997.

    According to this story, the most recent tax records show the Clintons gave millions to charity in 2006 alone. The fact that it all went to the Bill and Hillary Clinton Foundation doesn’t make it seem any less generous … does it?

  • 84 prettyold // Apr 5, 2008 at 6:13 pm

    Fred #78 since Upnorthlurkin’ and I are twins ,it is OK that you got us confused,we’re very nearly interchangable …..well except for the fact that I’m 15 years older.

    kicked Sibelius But I love Sibelius

  • 85 mindknumbed kid // Apr 5, 2008 at 7:14 pm

    Happy Birthday to all who are admitting it! Maybe if we ban birthday celebrations of everyone over 12 or 16 years of age we can cool the planet down enough to save us from the evil days ahead.Another thing they might try is eliminating all asphalt surfaces from the planet. If that ain’t enough to do it then we could deploy thousands of satellites with big old mirrors to reflect the sunlight toward Mars, it might screw up the climate there but I say if the Martian people have a problem with it they can address it at some future UN meeting and the UN will fix the problem, as they have shown to be capable of doing time and time again.First step would be to send All Gorey there to study the problem and to tell them how to live.
    Ain’t I just a great problem solver? Two in one little post, I’d better take a week or so off to rest, as I’m not a spring chicken or rooster myself now.

  • 86 mindknumbed kid // Apr 5, 2008 at 8:52 pm

    upnorth - “They” are intent on ruining the country. They grew up with pie in the sky thoughts, went to liberal institutions, met fellow pie in the sky-ers and they sit around and dream of something that will never exist, but they just feel so good……
    They do not live in reality.They are not mature. Dreamers that spend their lives in some alternate reality.

  • 87 mindknumbed kid // Apr 5, 2008 at 8:55 pm

    But they do have good intentions. Too bad the results don’t match. Howbeit I do occasionally question their intentions.

  • 88 mindknumbed kid // Apr 5, 2008 at 8:59 pm

    You are forcing me to get pushy here. I am a peaceable man, I don’t want to do this…but I will!

  • 89 upnorthlurkin // Apr 5, 2008 at 9:53 pm

    Mkk, I think instead they for the most part are old hippies…the ones who smoked a bit too much reefer or dropped acid a few too many times….and just never matured! So, I’m not so sure their intentions are good….they’re more like, “wow man….that’d be far out, man….”

  • 90 Fred Sinclair // Apr 5, 2008 at 11:16 pm

    I just got an e-mail promoting Affirmative Action Programs. I deleted the piece of junk mail; Suddenly I “got it” for the 1st time, even though I’d pretty well figured it out already.

    Affirmative Action is what I do when playing you a game of ping-pong. The first one to 21 points - wins. Since I recognize that when it comes to playing ping-pong you are a worthless piece of feces (excrement) and haven’t a chance against my vast superiority, I’ll tell you what I’m going to do. I’m going to throw you a bone. (as to a dog) and spot you 10 points.

    Now comes the reality, if you accept the 10 points you are accepting my premise: that you are basically inferior. Without my largesse you cannot compete with me. Then when I beat you, in spite of your free 10 points, you can cry, wail, and protest that I cheated.

    I think they do something similar in golf, calling it a handicap. So as to allow inferiors a chance to compete.

    If I wanted to compete in a foot race and was offered a 10 yard head start, I would be so insulted I’d probably punch somebody out!

    Heirborn Ranger

  • 91 Fred Sinclair // Apr 6, 2008 at 2:46 am

    Give thanks and praises unto God for our American President, George W. Bush. He isn’t perfect, but then again, neither am I. but with due consideration of what he ran against; GIVE THANKS AND PRAISES TO GOD FOR PRESIDENT BUSH.

    We serve a Great an mighty God, who has said in His Word that His ways are not our ways and our ways are not His ways.

    We live in the greatest Country on the planet and there are those who walk among us who are working diligently to change that. I say, “A pox on them!”

    Heirborn Ranger

  • 92 JamesonLewis3rd // Apr 6, 2008 at 6:14 am

    Actually, the way the question (#4) is phrased, you would think that the response would have been 100% in favor of “feeling” that “things” are “pretty seriously” “on the wrong track”.

    Just a few examples:
    One side says we don’t kill enough babies, the other says we shouldn’t kill any.
    One side says we should capitulate to our enemies, the other says we should defend ourselves and help those who cannot.
    One side worships itself, the other worships Almighty God.

    I can only speculate as to what “track” the poll has in mind but the “track” that we (the USofA) should be on is clearly delineated in The Constitution of the United States of America.
    Thank you

  • 93 gafisher // Apr 6, 2008 at 11:02 am

    Fred Re#90: “Now comes the reality, if you accept the 10 points you are accepting my premise: that you are basically inferior.

    That’s called “… the soft bigotry of low expectations.”

    _

  • 94 Ms RightWing, Ink // Apr 6, 2008 at 12:06 pm

    Yo, sistahs-happy birthday.

    When I don’t feel like death I will be a little more vocal over your new found year.

    I am about 5 minutes from calling paramedics. Can you believe this, now that spring has sprung, I can’t move nor breath.

    What is with that.

  • 95 Ms RightWing, Ink // Apr 6, 2008 at 12:08 pm

    push (cough)

  • 96 upnorthlurkin // Apr 6, 2008 at 1:52 pm

    Ms RW - you take care of yourself!! Was it too much excitement at Niagra Falls? So far, we’ve had about 5 inches of wet, heavy, snow today….I’m speechless (you wish!!)

  • 97 JamesonLewis3rd // Apr 6, 2008 at 3:28 pm

    Robert Neville as Charlton Heston: [Talking to moldy corpse in car dealership] How much for a trade-in on my Ford? Oh, really? Thanks a lot, you cheating [bleep]…..
    ~~from The Omega Man (1971)

  • 98 Ms RightWing, Ink // Apr 6, 2008 at 7:50 pm

    Bye-the paradudes are taking me away. 101 degrees and out of my head

    Not that I was ever in it.

  • 99 JamesonLewis3rd // Apr 6, 2008 at 9:08 pm

    God Bless You, Ms RightWing, Ink

  • 100 mindknumbed kid // Apr 6, 2008 at 9:51 pm

    Even “out of her head” she has more sense than any liberal ever hopes to have! Get well quick and come back soon Ms. RW. We’ll leave a thread open for you.

  • 101 Libby Gone // Apr 7, 2008 at 5:54 am

    Hope you get well soon, Ms. RW.

  • 102 JamesonLewis3rd // Apr 7, 2008 at 6:11 am

    Unnamed sources say that 99.241% of unnamed respondents—when informed that the Olympic Torch will have traveled for only 130 days to get the mere 85,100 miles from Olympia to Beijing—responded by flexing their eyeballs and saying, “Wuh!?!”
    :shock:
    0.758% swooned.
    0.001% feigned glee.

  • 103 Libby Gone // Apr 7, 2008 at 6:16 am

    JL3,
    and to think it only took 3 days to get to the moon using a late model 1968 Saturn!

  • 104 Hawkeye // Apr 7, 2008 at 6:38 am

    Prayers goin’ up Ms RW. Take care of yourself and please report in soon as you can. God bless…

  • 105 Fred Sinclair // Apr 7, 2008 at 6:44 am

    Lady Right Wing, Ink.I hope that you know there are a lot of Prayer Warriors who are praying for you. We want you back and well again.

    Heirborn Ranger

  • 106 Fred Sinclair // Apr 7, 2008 at 7:06 am

    All McCain has to offer is his support of the war on terror and his ability to nominate replacements on the Supreme Court. With the age factor alone there will surely be at the least 1 or 2. Right now I’m looking forward to what Jim Inhofe (R) Okla. will be doing in the next few years. Also Judge Janice Rogers Brown (R) Federal Appeals Court, Wash. D.C. will be in the news a lot.

    Condi Rice will be McCains best VP choice for a win. With consideration of McCain’s age a signifiant factor, Condi stands a good chance of becoming Americas first Negro and first Female President. This dual potential would garner a great number of new votes for McCain, from disgruntled crossovers.

    Heirborn Ranger

    WV - rector largest - head #1 dude whats in charge

  • 107 EXT // Apr 9, 2008 at 10:03 pm

    Random thoughts:

    Back in 1776 George Washington told a bunch of loyalists in Boston: “If you don’t like this country; jump off!”. And they did. Right onto British ships that took them somewhere…I don’t know where…maybe just dumped them at sea. George had a point. Imagine the overpopulation of Boston today if those folks had stayed around.

    There’s this fun thing about recessions:

    Conservatives tend to own their houses outright or with minimal mortgages. Conservatives tend to have socked away some money for a rainy day.

    Liberals tend to favor big mortgages and spending themselves silly. No savings to speak of.

    Yeah, that’s why I love a good, deep recession. It’s the liberals who suffer the most.

    They are most deserving!

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