(2007-10-12) — In the midst of a push by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-CA, to pass a resolution labeling the Ottoman (Turk) Empire genocidal for the death of 1.5 million Armenians in 1915, House Republicans have introduced a bill condemning the Roman Empire for “the wholesale slaughter and domination of most of the known world from about 41 B.C. to 476 A.D.”
Rep. Pelosi, who often refers to her Italian heritage, called the GOP move “nothing short of a hate crime” and “a cynical effort by Republicans to overshadow what could be the first significant accomplishment of the Democrat Congressional majority.”
“The resolution to label the Armenians as victims of a Turkish genocide,” Rep. Pelosi said, “is not meant to antagonize one of our few allies in the middle east, and thus hamper U.S. efforts in Iraq, but is a genuine effort to hold accountable the long-dead perpetrators of this crime. We’re simply doing retroactively what the United Nations would have done if it had existed at the time.”
The Speaker said if the resolution passes, Democrats plan to push for sanctions against the Ottoman Empire, including a ban on sales of cavalry horses, Sopwith Camel fighter biplanes and Zeppelins.
41 responses so far ↓
1 Darthmeister // Oct 12, 2007 at 6:28 am
Here's the documentation for the genocidal tendencies of leftists, communists, socialists, and collectivists.
Socialist collectivism always tends toward totalitarianism - from Nazism to Communism. Is there any doubt what the leftists in this country would attempt to do if they truly controlled the American government for a generation?
2 random // Oct 12, 2007 at 9:41 am
I hate Crime too.
3 Roguet55 // Oct 12, 2007 at 9:42 am
Scott, you again hit the nail squarely on the head.
To antagonize one of the few countries that actually is assisting us makes no sense . I feel bad as I am sure all the Armenians that lived through this must, but what does it really do other than cause a political problem with an allies? By all means go after the Ottoman Empre, The Romans, Erick the Red and any others she could find and channel a confession from!
4 Maggie // Oct 12, 2007 at 9:51 am
Hey!! ‘Fa get about it!
5 Ms RightWing, Ink // Oct 12, 2007 at 10:15 am
What? Just when I was making a peaceful gesture towards Vikings for drinking my mother’s ancestors beer and not paying for it. But then my father’s ancestors said the Irish had it coming.
Now Armenians. Ha, I ain’t got the time
6 Darthmeister // Oct 12, 2007 at 10:23 am
I wonder if the Romans were also pro-abortion?
7 Hawkeye // Oct 12, 2007 at 10:44 am
Does that include a ban on “Led Zeppelins”?
8 Hawkeye // Oct 12, 2007 at 10:47 am
what could be the first significant accomplishment of the Democrat Congressional majority…
Ouch.
9 Hawkeye // Oct 12, 2007 at 10:49 am
Darth #5,
No. They resorted to infanticide or just killing the expectant mother.
10 da Bunny // Oct 12, 2007 at 10:50 am
Darthmeister, you beat me to it…I was going to ask why the GOP doesn’t introduce a resolution labelling the Demoncrat Party as “genocidal” for their support and assistance in the ongoing mass murder of the unborn here in this country?
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12 RedPepper // Oct 12, 2007 at 12:08 pm
Rouget55 #2: “To antagonize one of the few countries that actually is assisting us makes no sense.†Well, if nothing else, I am puzzled by the timing, as they say. Still, the Armenian Genocide was enormously consequential and should not be forgotten - or dismissed.
“Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.†- George Santayana
13 JamesonLewis3rd // Oct 12, 2007 at 12:18 pm
Turkey lost thousands in that war (or uprising or whatever it was). Why isn’t Armenia being stereotyped as genocidal?
The next thing you know those ignorant misanthropes in Congress will be apologizing to the freaking Nazis.
Somebody needs to clue those low-lifes what their job actually consists of.
14 conserve-a-tips // Oct 12, 2007 at 12:38 pm
OK, I’m calling my Congresswoman and offering her wording for some more very essential resolutions that should be passed along with Nanny Pulloutsi’s. Number 1 - a resolution naming the USA’s handling of the Native American population as genocide, Number 2 - The Native American Population’s handling of the Spanish explorers as genocide. Number 3 - The Spanish Church’s handling of the inquisition as genocide. And finally, Number 4 - The Democrat Party’s handling of prenatal care as genocide.
15 Darthmeister // Oct 12, 2007 at 12:48 pm
da bunny, I think the Roman society’s rough equivalent to abortion was something called “exposure.” One would leave a newborn baby out in the elements … you get the rest.
Within our lifetimes I bet the Donks and their culture of death propose expanding abortion rights to include post partum “abortions”. They’ll probably sell it as retroactive pro-choice. Bet 50% of the most moronic Americans fall for it.
16 Libby Gone // Oct 12, 2007 at 12:48 pm
Technically we are still at war. I was attacked last night by a Footstand in my living ala Dick Van Dyke!
17 Libby Gone // Oct 12, 2007 at 12:49 pm
living ROOM
18 beekabok2 // Oct 12, 2007 at 1:27 pm
RE:16
da-da-da, da-da-da, da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da, whoop splat
19 conserve-a-tips // Oct 12, 2007 at 1:42 pm
Heh, guys, how’s about we all pool our resources and bid for Rush’s letter on ebay? I’ll frame it and then we could pass it around to be displayed in each of our neck of the woods. I’m loving this. He is a hoot.
20 Ms RightWing, Ink // Oct 12, 2007 at 1:57 pm
conserve-a-tips
re:14
Don’t forget when the Hebrews invaded those innocent folks on the other side of the Jordan. Seems like that Moses guy led them through the desert with some sort of stealth combat equipment.
Why couldn’t they just be happy making bricks and eating asps and onions.
21 RedPepper // Oct 12, 2007 at 2:39 pm
Was Ms. Nancy paying attention when our Islamic friends felt dissed at times in the recent past, do you think? The cartoon controversies, the Pope’s observations, and so on?
Wonder if she’s planning any trips to the Mid-east any time soon …
22 conserve-a-tips // Oct 12, 2007 at 3:12 pm
Ms Rightwing, Ink: I can’t imagine why anyone would want to leave a menu of asps and onions!
23 prettyold // Oct 12, 2007 at 3:13 pm
Of course, it would be senseless for Congress to the German people or the Russians for all the millions of deaths under Hitler and the Nazis,or Stalin and the Communists. After all those people are all dead . Oh, and they are not Allies ,either.
If any Turkish folks are reading this ,I would like to apologize for the ignorant democrats in this country ,who voted in the absolute worst House and Senate America has ever had.Over half the citizens of the United States do not agree with what the Congress did this morning.
24 Roguet55 // Oct 12, 2007 at 3:27 pm
REDPEPPER,
Thanks for the link, An interesting piece of world history that I think we did already repeat a few times since that time!
25 RedPepper // Oct 12, 2007 at 3:53 pm
Roguet55: Indeed we have. Some argue that this genocide was the model for much that followed, including the Holocaust.
“Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?†- Adolph Hitler, August 1939
26 jedp2@cox.net // Oct 12, 2007 at 5:26 pm
Let’s see . . . Congressmen accusing Marines as murderers . . . pointing out the lack of WMD’s more times than Clinton did someone in the Oval Room . . . apologizing to Syria for our President being elected . . . voting for the War then against the war then against funding the troops then telling your constituents that you can’t end the war when you were allegedly elected to end the war . . .at least Scott’s humor has a logical linearity to it. Painful belly laughs should be classified as torture because either Scott or this legislative body is going to kill me one day very soon . . . if it was a laughing matter, that is.
27 conserve-a-tips // Oct 12, 2007 at 5:49 pm
Redpepper, that was very interesting. I find it rather ironic, however, that the Democrats in Congress are unwittingly setting themselves up for a repeat of history as they are dhimmis and they are basically putting into words, “Down with Islam” for killing all of those poor Armenians, a rallying cry for the jihadists to do to the signers of this resolution, what they did to the Armenians. Unfortunately, they are setting up the rest of the nation for the same reprisal. Idiots. They’d cut off their noses to spite their faces. That is, if they thought they could stick their noses into our business without their noses!!!!!!!!!
28 Maggie // Oct 12, 2007 at 6:04 pm
jedp2…..re#26
If you think “belly laughing” is painful,try reading one of Scott’s threads while drinking hot coffee. Lots of nose snorting goin’ on around here.
Welcome to Scrappleville, take off your shoes and “set a spell”.
29 conserve-a-tips // Oct 12, 2007 at 6:40 pm
Jedp2: Re #26 - You do realize that their “voting for the war and then against the war” mathematically works out to a “they never voted” and so absolves them of all responsibility. However, their voting against funding and lying to their constituents is a formula that is mathematically tougher to finagle. Welcome to Scrappleface and glad you decided to join in the fun.
30 prettyold // Oct 12, 2007 at 7:48 pm
Let me get this straight , the Turkish genocide of the Armenians,was the first time Genocide ever took place? And that is why Hitler referred to it?
31 gafisher // Oct 12, 2007 at 9:19 pm
The Dems’d censure Cain, if they were Abel.
32 gafisher // Oct 12, 2007 at 9:44 pm
Did Harry, Nan & Co. confirm with the Iranian sewer rat that this genocide really happened?
33 Ms RightWing, Ink // Oct 12, 2007 at 9:47 pm
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34 Ms RightWing, Ink // Oct 12, 2007 at 10:00 pm
And yes, I did buy Scott a cup of coffee. I hope the coffee at Shelly’s Cafe is to his liking.
You know I think I will put a cash register logo on my blog. sigh, I am sure all I will get is pesos, buttons and subway tokens
35 RedPepper // Oct 12, 2007 at 10:44 pm
prettyold #30: As the Wikipedia article that I linked to at #12 states, the Armenian Genocide “ … is widely acknowledged to have been one of the first modern, systematic genocides … â€. I think the element that is important here is this: genocide is extermination as a deliberate, intentional policy of the State, not simply a side-effect of war. This aspect is largely ignored by the various dictionary definitions of the word, which tend to focus on the victims, i.e. “genocide: the deliberate killing of a very large number of people from a particular ethnic group or nation†from the online version of the Compact Oxford English Dictionary. Well, that’s fine, but - killing done by whom, exactly? By government, typically - as Darthmeister’s #6 points out. Slaughter was certainly nothing new; and conquerors, like Genghis Khan, had engaged in slaughter as an intentional policy. “Genocide”, in a sense, is when the slaughter is done by - and through - bureaucracy. Though I am sure that bureaucrats the world over would react with outrage and disgust to that formulation. Nevertheless, if you are looking for some distinct, new element that distinguishes genocide from other forms of slaughter …
36 conserve-a-tips // Oct 13, 2007 at 12:53 am
Redpepper, just curious, but what about the Roman Empire’s systematic murder and persecution of Christians via mass murder door-to-door and in the arena with the lions? Also, do they not consider the Roman Empire’s extermination of Jews in 70AD as genocide?
I wonder if the Mentally Challenged One in the House realizes that in proposing this resolution, she is defending Christianity against Islam. I didn’t think that Democrats defend Christianity. Do you not find it rather hillarious that she had them to ban ‘God’ from the Capitol flag documents, but she wants to cause a foreign policy disaster over something involving Christianity 100 years ago?
37 Darthmeister // Oct 13, 2007 at 7:52 am
Former Iraq commander Lt. General Ricardo Sanchez has called Iraq a “nightmare with no end in sight.”
Clearly the good commander is in a time warp because he can’t be speaking of the remarkable accomplishments of present Iraqi commander General Petraeus who is undoing the failed command policies of his predecessors - like LT. GENERAL RICARDO SANCHEZ, Lt. Generals Abizaid and Casey - all of whom set the tone and tenor and operational tempo in Iraq with their failed “small footprint” theory. Maybe President Bush gave those commanders too much rope and now they’re hanging themselves.
But I believe the good commander is in fact in CYA mode. Amazing how the left-wing media eats this stuff up without asking the hard questions about Sanchez’s own command responsibilities and how he blew it with his minimalist approach toward insurgents and al Qaeda operatives within Iraq.
President Bush trusted Lt. General Sanchez to make the right decisions with regard to operational decisions in Iraq, and when things went south for a time and Sanchez himself was replaced, now he decides to blame President Bush FOR TRUSTING HIM! With commanders like him no wonder Iraq is taking so long to pacify.
Under Commander Sanchez Iraq became the happy hunting ground of jihadists! Clearly Sanchez’s remarks validates what we’re seeing with our own eyes, General Petraeus’ new ROE and battle tactics have created marked success in Iraq and past U.S. Iraqi commanders are embarassed by their own failure when they had the chance to accomplish the same thing.
If we are to make an historical analogy, Sanchez would be roughly equivalent to Lincoln’s General Meade whereas General Petraeus would be Lincoln’s U.S. Grant. Unfortunately, in the real world, it often takes time for a Lincoln to find his U.S. Grant, for an FDR to find his Eisenhower or Bush to find his Petraeus, but then anti-war liberals don’t live in the real world given their relentless partisan sniping.
I’ve yet to hear from one Democrat in either the House or the Senate asking General Petraeus what they can do to help facilitate victory in Iraq. Not one.
38 Fred Sinclair // Oct 13, 2007 at 8:10 am
Many thanks to ola for her faithfulness in getting me a face2face ScrappleFest T - Shirt. Due to my error with one number in my zip code it took the Post office from Sept 6 till yeaterday to get it here in spite of Holland, MI being plainly written on the envelope.
I wasn’t there in body of course, but in spirit I couldn’t have been closer. Lord willing, I will make every possible effort to be there next year.
Heirborn Ranger
39 Fred Sinclair // Oct 13, 2007 at 8:15 am
I read “Preview twice and still missed it.Of course yeaterday should read yesterday. my bad.
Heirborn Ranger
40 gafisher // Oct 13, 2007 at 8:29 am
Sen. Kennedy Surgery Successful, Brain Begins to Function.
Surgery performed Friday at Massachusetts General Hospital has successfully removed the arterial blockage which had significantly restricted blood flow to the Senator’s brain for what may have been decades.
“The surgery was routine, uneventful, and successful,” one of the surgeons assured reporters, citing as evidence the Senator’s subsequent and urgent demand for a Change-of-Party Form from the Massachusetts Board of Elections.
Medical experts point out that reduced blood flow to the brain is a dangerous condition which often leads to the symptoms which brought Sen. Kennedy to the hospital. “The cure is simple and, unless we socialize medicine, relatively inexpensive,” said a spokesman, “but the first step is recognizing the warning signs, chief of which is a [D] (for Danger) after your name.”
41 kbmitchell // Oct 14, 2007 at 10:47 am
thank you for your time:TURKRY I AM SORRY FOR WHAT THOSE IDIOTS IN CONGRESS DID .THAY SHOULD CONDEM THIS COUNTRY FOR SLAVERY AND THE RED MAN.I AM SORRY thank you kb mitchell
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