(2006-10-10) — Even as President George Bush insisted that the U.S. would continue to pursue diplomacy in the North Korean nuclear crisis, he added today that every option is still on the table, including the possibility of “bombing them back to the food age.”
“It breaks my compassionate conservative heart that Kim Jong-Il’s people are starving while he’s blowing millions of dollars on weapons of mass destruction,” said Mr. Bush. “If it weren’t for U.S. and United Nations food aid, he’d have a massive famine on his hands.”
The president suggested that a carefully executed bombing campaign, or a Special Ops military unit, could return the country to “the food age” — a time when the Korean people could feed themselves without assistance.
“Sometimes,” the president said, “it takes guns to make butter.”
176 responses so far ↓
1 onlineanalyst // Oct 12, 2006 at 8:02 am
Bravo, Maestro Ott!
Since the whining Dems are blaming Bush (again!) for the “provocation” of calling Li’l Kim part of the axis of evil, the president might as well continue his straight talk by pointing out how the dictator is starving his people in order to have relevance.
Keep the eye on the prize of Iran. Watch what China does. Li’l Kim is just a buzzing gnat intended to be a diversion.
2 camojack // Oct 12, 2006 at 8:04 am
FOOD FIGHT!!!
3 Ms RightWing, Ink // Oct 12, 2006 at 8:04 am
Butter for guns. Hmm, Gummy Bears for cats? I don’t know where to go with this idea.
Good Morning all
I made it through another night so that is the first bit of good news. Just doing life one day at a time and I need to get back to the cafe because the UFO story fell flat on the dining room floor.
One hundred stories by Christmas, geesh, I should have included all the Broken Back stories then perhaps I would make it.
I will throw this in on #54. He is the first and only one to print everything like two kids on instant messaging, i.e., lower case. What is next r u ok 2 day.
He knows it is annoying to others but refuses to change. I too, will wait out his teenage style and see how he handles new posts. Time always tells.
I hunted down Hairy Lime and proved him to be a fraud but I will leave this alone. I generally do not get in to personal destruction on Scott’s blog but others have been abused to the point they left (Colorado Kitty Kat for one)
So buckle up young man and fix your caps lock.
4 Darthmeister // Oct 12, 2006 at 8:21 am
It would be for their own good. I wonder what the UN plans to do besides “ponder”?
5 boberinagain // Oct 12, 2006 at 8:29 am
Ah, the “food age”, good plan. Interesting, as always, that we decide not to attack (as if we have any meaningful army left at this point) those weirdos that actually have WMD’s. I’m guessing that if we did attack then NK would either bury or move their weapons elsewhere so we couldn’t find them.
Sure, that’s what they would do, right gang? Don’t all unstable dictators employ that tactic when faced with losing a war/their lives?
Good one Scott!
6 JamesonLewis3rd // Oct 12, 2006 at 8:38 am
The sad thing is that NoKo is so heavily armed that in order to free the starving people of that country and protect the rest of the world (at least in their vicinity) from attack, even by conventional weapons, the entire country would have to be instantaneously obliterated.
I read somewhere that NoKo has the capability to rain 300,000 to 400,000 missiles per hour down on SoKo.
7 conserve-a-tip // Oct 12, 2006 at 8:39 am
Good morning Scrapplers, it is cold here!! What happened?
Personally, I don’t think that Kim Jung (mentally) Il would have an appreciation for being blown to the Food Age because he is so itty bitty that he surely doesn’t eat very much. Besides, I have a feeling that Bush would be facing the ire of PETA over the leader’s main meat course….El Rushbo calls him the Little Dog-eating Dictator.
8 camojack // Oct 12, 2006 at 8:58 am
It would be for their own good. I wonder what the UN plans to do besides “ponder”?
Comment by Darthmeister — October 12, 2006 @ 8:21 am
Pontificate?
9 gafisher // Oct 12, 2006 at 9:03 am
Carpetbombing His Ilness’ domain with soybean and corn seed would almost certainly help the people of North Korea. Those US and UN food shipments are moving “through channels,” which probably means they’re winding up in Afghanistan.
If only GWB hadn’t made Kim so angry maybe he wouldn’t have started his nuclear weapons program ten years ago, using materials and technology supplied by the Clinton administration . . .
10 gafisher // Oct 12, 2006 at 9:08 am
>> “…every option is still on the table…”
Oops; nope. Taking a lesson from Sandy Berger, Mr. Kim has slipped the salad into his trousers.
11 Maggie // Oct 12, 2006 at 9:13 am
“Keep your eyes on your fries”.
12 boberinagain // Oct 12, 2006 at 9:32 am
Those that live in glass houses….
We can have nukes but the rest of the world should be punished for it? How odd a stance is that?
Oh, we are the “responsible” ones, right? Hmm, also the only country ever to use such weapons.
A fine example, one the world should aspire to emulate eh? And yet, we wonder why noone listens.
Hmmmm
13 Darthmeister // Oct 12, 2006 at 9:37 am
as if we have any meaningful army left at this point
Less than one-fifth of our conventional military assets are deployed in Iraq AND Afghanistan, bober. Don’t believe everything you read in the lamestream media or that the Pentagon puts out as disinformation to our enemies.
Not that we’d ever use them, but tactical nukes (as distinguished from strategic nukes) and the means to accurately as well as actually deliver them to their intended targets on the battlefield are a good force multiplier when push comes to shove. Despite whatever baloney you may be hearing about our military preparedness, bober, if completely mobilized our armed forces could deal with Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, Syria and North Korea if necessary. But why would our military planners and government tell this to our enemies?
Rest assured, if a real knock-down-drag-out World War IV were to take shape, we could double the size of our military manpower-wise and easily crank up our manufacturing base to make those new soldiers as deadly as anything we have now.
This is America, for goodness sake. We aren’t anywhere near the manpower drain we had during World War II when with half the US population we fielded a six million man military force.
14 Ms RightWing, Ink // Oct 12, 2006 at 9:42 am
NEWS FLASH FROM RIGHTWING NEWS, INK
Richard Simmons, renowned weight loss king (?) has been reported missing after the second day of his good will tour in North Korea.
Forensic experts are now examining bones found outside a diner in Ho Ding Fling Province.
As of this morning there is no proof that Simmons was consumed in watered down cat broth.
More news as information becomes available
15 Darthmeister // Oct 12, 2006 at 9:42 am
We can have nukes but the rest of the world should be punished for it? How odd a stance is that?
Ah, leave it to bober to engage in false moral equivalences and left-wing sophistry (again), and thus become the unwitting apologist for Iranian and North Korean nutbags. But don’t forget, he Supports Our Troops!
And where does arguments like his eventually lead? Certainly not to the disarmament of all nations having nuclear weapons but rather adding more nations to the nuclear fraternity. That’s the real world bober and you’d better adapt your arguments accordingly if you want to remain morally relevant in this discussion.
16 I.M. Pistov // Oct 12, 2006 at 9:48 am
“Despite whatever baloney you may be hearing about our military preparedness, bober, if completely mobilized our armed forces could deal with Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, Syria and North Korea if necessary. But why would our military planners and government tell this to our enemies?”
Well, Darth, you’ve let the cat out of the bag NOW!
17 Shelly // Oct 12, 2006 at 9:58 am
RE: 15, imagine someone in Israel saying “we can have nukes but Iran can’t? How odd a stance is that?”
I also wonder if the continued deaths of countless Americans and Japanese at the end of WWII would have been preferable to boberin? Or would he then hate the U.S. (and Bush administration) for not having used the weapons to stop the killing? How easy to simply assume that the U.S. is always wrong, as opposed to actually having to consider issues.
18 nylecoj // Oct 12, 2006 at 10:02 am
Godfrey,
I read that it was Lidle’s flight instructor on the plane but I have not found a name.
19 nylecoj // Oct 12, 2006 at 10:07 am
I just heard a report that the last name of the person with Lidle was Stanger. I hope that is accurate. Did you know them Godfrey?
20 conserve-a-tip // Oct 12, 2006 at 10:19 am
Boberinagain - re #12 - I have to say that you gave me a good chuckle. Your post reminded me of my son when he petulantly queried why his dad could carry a rifle and he couldn’t, to go hunting. He didn’t buy that, “You don’t have the maturity to do that yet,” speech. We don’t give 14 year olds a car to drive and we don’t give insane little dictators nuclear weapons.
21 Darthmeister // Oct 12, 2006 at 10:47 am
Yeah, I.M., like the mentally deficient Iranian mullahs and the tin-plated despot of NoKo reads this blog…buwahahahaha. They wouldn’t believe a thing we say any way, American liberals sure don’t. Think about it.
Oh, oh, looks like IowaHawk blog has gone nuclear in response to Kim Jong Mentally Il’s recent nuke-in-a-cave saber rattling.
22 Darthmeister // Oct 12, 2006 at 10:48 am
Yeah, I.M., like the mentally deficient Iranian mullahs and the tin-plated despot of NoKo reads this blog…buwahahahaha. Like we’re to be concerned about their Boris and Natasha types? They wouldn’t believe a thing we say any way, American liberals sure don’t. Think about it.
Oh, oh, looks like IowaHawk blog has gone nuclear in response to Kim Jong Mentally Il’s recent nuke-in-a-cave saber rattling.
23 beekabok1 // Oct 12, 2006 at 10:49 am
The next thing you know, kim will say that in order to feed his own people, he must now sell the nuke technology to the highest bidder.
I can see the ebay™ add now:
BUILD IT YOURSELF NUKE
Everything you need to start your own program other than the plutoium (see my other listing under “glow in the dark items”) Buyer agrees to pay shipping and handling charges. All sales are final. Please don’t forget to leave your feedback
24 Darthmeister // Oct 12, 2006 at 10:54 am
I’m going to have to work on subject-verb agreement. I guess that’s what I get for massively re-editting sentences on the fly in the comment box.
#15 Should read: “And where DO arguments like his lead?”
Forgive double post, #21 should read: “…like the mentally deficient Iranian mullahs and the tin-plated despot of NoKo READ this blog…”
25 jimmytheleg // Oct 12, 2006 at 10:57 am
(lurking mode off)
I love the moral high ground stance that liberals take when the issue is nuclear weapons.
I guess that makes up for the hole that they dug themselves during 89 years of appeasement to Marxist tyrants.
(lurking mode on)
26 Shelly // Oct 12, 2006 at 11:09 am
Just caught up on the last thread since I haven’t been on for a couple of days. I had never seen a lol! tic before.
If you go to LGF and scroll down a bit, there is a fantastic ad that the GOP, sadly, isn’t actually using. It is hysterical.
27 Shelly // Oct 12, 2006 at 11:18 am
Meanwhile, Dems continue their Get out the Vote effort:
http://blogs.ocregister.com/mikeshelton/archives/2006/10/get_out_the_vot.html#more
28 RedPepper // Oct 12, 2006 at 11:24 am
Shelly: Ever hear this one? “In a democracy, you always get the goverment you deserve.”
For some reason, I don’t find that comforting …
29 boberinagain // Oct 12, 2006 at 11:33 am
Tactical nukes eh? And yet you still claim moral superiority? Surely you jest.
So, we should adamantly claim that we have the right to those weapons whilst saying that others should not. I actually agree that they should not but there is no way we can have them and tell others in any meaningful way that they cannot. They look on us as just as misguided as we percieve them, imagine that.
I also agree with George that we should negotiate and, not alone. But, I am shocked that when a tinhorn crackpot actually proves that he has them we want to negotiate and you folks agree. However, when another crackpot clearly did not have them you supported (and still support) an invasion/occupation.
I fully expect that if George came out in favor of eating babies that many of you could make convincing arguments as to why that was such a wonderful idea.
Y’all want it both ways, invade a nearly harmless country because he might someday aquire mukes but negotiate with the one that actually has them and the other on the verge.
Which way is it that’s correct, please enlighten me.
30 maf54 // Oct 12, 2006 at 11:47 am
classic scott! rotflmao!
so much for bombing them back to the nuclear age! lol!
31 nylecoj // Oct 12, 2006 at 11:49 am
A nearly ‘harmless’ country that was abetting the very terrorists that attacked us on our soil.
As far as only negotiating in Korea more things go on under the surface than anyone knows.
32 Shelly // Oct 12, 2006 at 12:01 pm
What right do we have to walk free, while we deny that right to criminals? Why should law abiding citizens have rights to weapons when convicted felons don’t? Why should the rest of Congress get to stay if Mark Foley has to leave? Why do we invade Iraq but not Australia? Who says seventeen UN resolutions amount to a hill of beans?
Clinton gave Ill everything he needed to make weapons, then promised that no inspectors would check up on him. Bush called him a name. Clearly Bush caused this. Logic has left the building!
33 JamesonLewis3rd // Oct 12, 2006 at 12:01 pm
OT but quite interesting nonetheless:
Michelle Malkin pointed me toward this article by a courageous, young, Muslim woman.
34 JamesonLewis3rd // Oct 12, 2006 at 12:10 pm
RE: #32~~
Shelly~~
Bravo! Well said!
Here’s what Ann Coulter has to say on the same topic.
She sure does have a way with words…..
35 boberinagain // Oct 12, 2006 at 12:13 pm
Never said or implied that Bush caused this. Sheesh, is that the best you have?
So we are the “good guys” and the rest of the world needs us to watch over them? OK then, if that delusion helps you sleep you are welsome to it.
Nyl, how is it (please just this one more time) that Iraq or Saddam had anything to do with 9/11? Have you repeated that stupid manta so often that you are starting to believe it? Please say it isn’t so or, if it is then I fear for not just you but for mankind.
Repeating something, even if you get louder each time, does not make it so.
36 GnuCarSmell // Oct 12, 2006 at 12:22 pm
The poor North Koreans are sick of Dear Leader, and praying for Fu Din Wok.
37 Fred Sinclair // Oct 12, 2006 at 12:35 pm
boberinagain: I sit here disabled in my wheelchair and thank God for you. Please don’t ever cut and run from ScrappleFace! You do more for me than all of the medications my Dr. perscribes. Especially if I’m feeling down or low - all I have to do is find one of your comments and it never fails - “eating babies” I start laughing and can’t stop until my sides hurt. You are soooooo funny. You always manage to remind me of my 11 years Active Duty in the Air Force - we had a saying that “there’s ALWAYS 10% that never seem to get the word.” So that qualifies you as a genuine ten percenter.
North Korea presents a problem today that goes back to one of our greatest presidents who like Bush didn’t get everything 100% right, all of the time. In 1950 Generals White, Scott, LeMay (and a couple of others I can’t recall) presented to then President Truman their plan to end the Korean problem in three days, complete with maximum figures for loss of civilian life and property destruction. With zero loss of American Military lives.
Harry Truman had demonstrated his will five years earlier but the liberals around the world were beginning to crawl out of their holes and he was convinced that three times the civilian deaths and five times the property destruction and the loss of thousands of American lives over a three year time spread would be more acceptable to the world (read the U.N.) than the plan of the Generals spread over only three days. (read “Boring A Hole In The Sky” by General Scott)
Quite possibly (and probably) Iraq, Iran, Syria & the Islamic terrorists would never have become a problem; knowing that America was the #1 power in the world and had the ability (and the will) to exercise that power. Russia was scared out of their panties - especially Stalin - and there would never have been a “cold war”, or a “Viet Nam”.
The policeman, when faced with some thugs, doesn’t say - “Gee, you guys only have knives and clubs, let me wait until you run home and get some guns so we can all be “fair” about this.” (unless he’s a liberal, of course).
Keep up the funnies boberinagain - you are priceless!
Fred Sinclair, Heirborn Ranger
38 Shelly // Oct 12, 2006 at 12:50 pm
According to boberin’s standards, Hitler was “harmless.”
The fact that al Queda was in Iraq training terrorists before we invaded, and that cushy $25,000 Saddam gave Palestinian suicide bombers’ families, are lost on someone who is telling another that repeating something over and over again doesn’t make it true. Now that’s rich! Not to mention the gullible UN Security Council and their seventeen resolutions. Or are we making that up as well?
39 RedPepper // Oct 12, 2006 at 1:42 pm
Hey there boberin! How are the new jobs going?
Sorry, the idea that Saddam’s Iraq was “nearly harmless” is more than nearly ridiculous. He should have been dealt with decisively way back in ‘91. Machiavelli had it nailed centuries ago; “If you strike at the King, you must kill him.”
40 Shelly // Oct 12, 2006 at 1:59 pm
James, thanks! I do love Ann. I don’t want to cause any Scrapplers to lose their lunch, but have you seen the cover of Susan Estrich’s new book? Yikes!
41 nylecoj // Oct 12, 2006 at 2:38 pm
Thank-you Shelly, I had not yet had time to look up the citations for Boberin. There is more data. I will look for it later and try to get it posted. (after work)
42 Maggie // Oct 12, 2006 at 2:38 pm
Hi Shelly,
Yes, I’ve seen Susan Estrich’s book cover entitled
‘Soulless’.She certainly was soulless to allow her picture on the cover……It just fortifies Ann Coulter’s position.
43 Godfrey // Oct 12, 2006 at 2:53 pm
nylecoi
I’m devastated right now. Tyler Stanger was a friend and my flight instrunctor. He was a good Christian too btw. Never flew on Sundays.
Has a wife and new child. Great great guy.
I cant even type right now. My hands are shaking. Damn
44 Dr. Harden Stuhl // Oct 12, 2006 at 3:05 pm
Godfrey,
I am reall sorry to hear that. My Prayers are with the people involved . Also for you bud.
Peace
45 maf54 // Oct 12, 2006 at 3:11 pm
godfrey,
i’m so sorry to hear about your loss. you must be devestated.
boberin,
it is a proven fact that saddam was in league with al queda. it is also a proven fact that saddam had wmds-although the msm won’t publicize that fact. furthermore, saddam was a menance to the entire region. sometimes you have to break some eggs to make an omlet. get with the program.
46 GnuCarSmell // Oct 12, 2006 at 3:40 pm
Kim Jong Il ain’t got no seoul.
47 onlineanalyst // Oct 12, 2006 at 3:44 pm
Godfrey- You have my deepest sympathies.
48 The Great Santini // Oct 12, 2006 at 3:48 pm
Godfrey:
What Doc Stuhl said (# 44), and what an awful event. My condolences to you; I’ll pray for you and for the families and friends of the dead.
Santini
49 nylecoj // Oct 12, 2006 at 4:04 pm
Oh Godfrey,
I am so sorry. May you find peace.
50 Darthmeister // Oct 12, 2006 at 4:20 pm
Godfrey, so sorry to here of your loss. Please accept my condolences. It’s always a shock to hear of a friend or family member who was cut down by an accident in the prime of life.
I can still taste the bitter dregs of hearing when a friend and former employer of mine in the roofing business was murdered in his office late one night. His wife was devastated, particularly since there were suspicions it was a mob-type hit related to the highly competitive construction business in that city. They had a five year old son at the time.
51 Libby Gone // Oct 12, 2006 at 4:23 pm
Godfrey,
You and yours will be added to my prayers tonight.
52 Darthmeister // Oct 12, 2006 at 4:32 pm
boberinagain,
I would say you’re looking through the wrong end of the telescope. You always want it both ways when criticizing POTUS or his administration. If you’re so sure about Bush being wrong and you think you have a better way of doing things, THEN WHY DON’T YOU RUN ON THE DEMOCRATIC TICKET? Seriously, if you’re this upset at Bush and totally convinced that you possess such enlightened insight and prudence in dealing with despots and terrorists, then quit complaining AND DO SOMETHING! Send an email to the Democrats expressing you solution in fighting terrorism and dealing with the NoKos. I’m sure they’ll appreciate the imput and if you really do have a better mousetrap then I’m confident they’ll put that right on their agenda for November 2006 and 2008.
In the meantime, until liberal DemDonks start acting on their rhetoric about being such grand defenders of innocents and lovers of humanity by volunteering to be human shields to stand between my family and terrorists, I think I’ll stick with Bush, Rumsfeld and the good ol’ US armed forces.
Democrats have DONE NOTHING but complain, they HAVE NOT done one single thing to fight terrorism. Can you name one? The DemDonks don’t even have a plan except redeploy to Okinawa (buwhahaha, thank you John Murtha). John Kerry still hasn’t told us his “plan” since 2004, except that it will be “smarter” and “cheaper” and terrorists will tremble in their sandals.
How can liberals fight terrorists when they, like you, are far too busy railing against conservatives and the Bush Administration? Sheesh!
53 Godfrey // Oct 12, 2006 at 4:35 pm
Thanks guys. I’m much better now. When I wrote the above I had literally just fired up my computer and found out about Tyler. I was really in shock.
He was an amazing individual: just a kid age-wise (he was 26) but a man in every way that counts, including a career, his own business, a wife and child to whom he was remarkably devoted (my last conversation with Tyler was about marriage and fidelity-I’ll never forget it). He was a very competent pilot and gifted instructor. He was also a Christian and a conservative, for what it’s worth. He would certainly have appreciated your prayers, as would his young wife, who I’m told is holding up well. It’s hard to imagine how difficult this is for her.
I only learned yesterday,after the crash, that Lidle was his student. When I learned that the other crash victim was a CFI I began to fear the worst, although I assumed that it was Lidle’s NY instructor (Tyler and I live in CA near the city where Lidle grew up).
I have been on pins and needles all night. At least now I know. But I really wish the news were different.
Anyway, thanks for “listening”. This is theraputic.
54 RedPepper // Oct 12, 2006 at 4:36 pm
Godfrey: sorry about your friend. Hang in there.
55 Darthmeister // Oct 12, 2006 at 4:49 pm
Victor Davis Hanson has some very cogent thoughts on how to deal with North Korea.
Given how the Clinton Administration and Jimmah Carter started the NoKos down the path they are presently traveling, it does appear that no amount of appeasement or “negotiation” is going to significantly affect the lose/lose situation which has evolved, particularly as the NoKos continue their bluster and belligerence. It appears the NoKos may have even slipped the leash of the Chi-Coms. But of course it’s all Bush’s fault, so says the intellectually lazy partisans on the other side of the aisle.
56 Libby Gone // Oct 12, 2006 at 4:54 pm
Hey Godfrey,
If you ever need good friends, listeners, advisors, counselors, etc. you are in the right place. I can attest.
Made a HUGE difference, for the positive,to me during the past year. Good folks ’round these parts.
57 conserve-a-tip // Oct 12, 2006 at 5:33 pm
Godfrey, oh my goodness. I just came in this afternoon and read through Scrappleface and my heart was just broken for you. You and your friend’s family are in my prayers. I am just so sorry.
I know that there is really nothing that helps, but there is a scripture that just happened to jump out at me one day and has served to encourage me in times when I have lost someone whom I love. It is in Isaiah 57:1-2 and is from the NIV version:
“The righteous perish, and no one ponders it in his heart;
devout men are taken away, and no one understands that the righteous are taken away to be spared from evil. Those who walk uprightly enter into peace; they find rest as they lie in death.”
I recently lost a friend who died of a stroke at a young age. We were all dumbfounded and struggled with “why?” Yesterday, his wife told me that the doctors had found, in the autopsy, that he had lung cancer. How horrible that would have been for him. God sees the big picture…we just see the brush strokes. Again, you have my condolences.
Conserve-a-tip
58 Effeminem // Oct 12, 2006 at 5:43 pm
Godfrey, sorry to hear about your friend.
59 The Great Santini // Oct 12, 2006 at 6:19 pm
Let’s lighten the atmosphere some….
♪ ♪ ♪ I GOT NUKES, BABE ♪ ♪ ♪
[Tune: “I Got You, Babe”, music and lyrics by Sonny Bono, performed by Sonny & Cher;
© 2006, Santini Serenades]
[A duet parody, sung to one another by Maximum Dictator Kim Jong-Il and President George W. Bush]
[Verse]
(Kim) They say I’m nuts, a Stalinist thug
If only Bush would give me a big hug
He throttled my counterfeiting crew
So I test nukes and starve my people, too
[Refrain]
Babe
I got nukes, babe
I got nukes, babe
[Verse]
(Bush) Hey, joy-boy, yur nuke’s low-rent
In spite o’ awl them bogus bucks yuh spent
B’fore yuh fulminate in rage
Ah jest might bomb yuh back t’ th’ Food Age
[Refrain]
Babe
Mah nukes work, babe
Mah nukes work, babe
[Bridge]
(Kim) Promised no nukes…my clever scheme
Got billions in aid…no inspection regime
(Bush) Clinton an’ Carter’s…buy-‘im-off tricks
Let demented psycho…get Nuke Glo-Sti-i-i-icks™
[Verse]
(Kim) They laugh ‘cause my bouffant hair’s too long
I’ll fry ‘em all with nuke-tipped Taepo-Dong
(Bush) Hold awn, yuh mangy, low-life cur
Ah’m ballistic when Ah go nook-yuh-ler
[Refrain]
(Kim, Bush) Babe
(Kim) I got nukes, babe
(Bush) Mah nukes work, babe
[Augmented refrain]
(Kim) What the hell, I’ll nuke Japan
(Bush) Kim Jong-Ill, NoKo madman
(Kim) I got enriched plutonium
(Bush) Try me, an’ you’ll be pond scum
(Kim) My couturier is Geek & Freak
(Bush) In Pyongyang, thet’s “Tyrant-chic”
(Kim) At home, I’m much-loved by the masses
(Bush) Sports Mao suit an’ Coke™-bottle glasses
(Kim) I climax at my nuke blasts
(Bush) You an’ Foley—pederasts
(Kim, Bush) We’ve got…nukes, babe
[Tag, to fade]
(Kim) I got nukes, babe
(Bush) Ah got dukes, babe
(Kim) I got jukes, babe
(Bush) Make goats puke, babe
(Kim) I got nukes, babe
(Bush) Commie kook, babe….
60 onlineanalyst // Oct 12, 2006 at 6:28 pm
Santini! That was fabulous, babe.
Now which one is Sonny and which one is Cher?
Nice to have some comic relief.
61 onlineanalyst // Oct 12, 2006 at 6:36 pm
Godfrey-
I’m heading out to choir practice, where we always begin with a prayer. I’ll add you, your friend and his family in our intentions.
62 Maggie // Oct 12, 2006 at 6:40 pm
Gr8 Santini,
You are true blue and fair dinkum.
63 Maggie // Oct 12, 2006 at 6:46 pm
Godfrey,
So sorry to learn of the loss of your friend and instructor.
I know that you will be a real comfort to the family.
My deepest sympathies.
64 conserve-a-tip // Oct 12, 2006 at 6:46 pm
Santini, that was great.
65 camojack // Oct 12, 2006 at 6:49 pm
Maggie:
Fair dinkum? Your time “down under” in “Oz” is showing.
(Not that there’s anything wrong with that!)
66 maf54 // Oct 12, 2006 at 6:51 pm
i guess we can blame the detroit tigers for the tragedy. or a-rod.
67 Bill's Bites // Oct 12, 2006 at 7:01 pm
France: Claimed N.Korea Nuke Test Failed
PARIS (AP) — France said outright for the first time Wednesday that North Korea’s proclaimed nuclear test produced such a small blast that it must have failed, and analysts warned such challenging talk could lead Pyongyang to try again. World
68 Maggie // Oct 12, 2006 at 7:15 pm
Camojack… LOL
Australian slang is my new interest.
When Steve Irwin died I watched the memorial service and his favorite song was “True Blue ’sung by John Williamson.(it is beautiful) I found the song on Amazon and ordered the CD entitled ‘True Blue’. Well,as I didn’t understand most of the meanings to the songs,I started learning the meanings.If interested google Australian slang.
69 Dr. Harden Stuhl // Oct 12, 2006 at 7:25 pm
Santini,
I laughed so hard I stiched up the wrong patient. Hmmm… has anybody seen my stethoscope?
70 Ms RightWing, Ink // Oct 12, 2006 at 7:46 pm
Wait, let me grab my fur vest. Okay, oh Great One, one more time from the top. Got my AM radio crankin’ and the reverb box is hot tonight!
Godfry
My deepest sympathy is given out to you.
71 Ms RightWing, Ink // Oct 12, 2006 at 7:47 pm
dagnabit, where did I put that post?
72 The Great Santini // Oct 12, 2006 at 7:56 pm
OLA:
Thank you. (The Pyongyang Pederast is Cher in drag, but he sings like Sonny….Got that?)
Maggie:
Kind sentiments, indeed, from a kind-hearted Sheila. G’day!
c-a-t:
Thanks very much.
My condolences on the thumping the Sooners took at the Cotton Bowl from the rampaging ‘Horns. It’s as sad as the one the Fighting Irish are likely to take from the hated USC Condoms at the Coliseum the Saturday after Thanksgiving. [Sigh….]
Doc Stuhl:
Glad you enjoyed it. Don’t sweat the stethoscope misstep. CA has a 250K lid on medmal pain and suffering. This ain’t West Virginia, y’know….
73 smells like liger et al // Oct 12, 2006 at 7:56 pm
In lurking downwind of the past couple of threads, including this one, I seem to have caught the scent of perhaps liger, Harry Lime, blacklion, cleveland, Thomas Crowne, or “it’s” alter ego. Watch it regular Scrapplers…I think some have been “sucked in” by some phony humility. Remember how poorly “it” plays with others.
74 123beta // Oct 12, 2006 at 8:04 pm
Some Giggles
Here’s some fun stuff from the web…
HotAir: Sheehan a finalist for Nobel Peace Prize…
75 The Great Santini // Oct 12, 2006 at 8:05 pm
Ms Righty:
And, no surprise, you’re hitting on all transistors.
Sonny and Cher had such bad taste (Sonny’s adenoidal crooning and Cher’s garb) that they used that groaner for the theme music for their TV show, “The Sonny and Cher Variety Hour: Gypsies, Tramps, and Thieves.”
§[:-)]
76 Darthmeister // Oct 12, 2006 at 8:08 pm
[Verse]
(Kim) They laugh ‘cause my bouffant hair’s too long
I’ll fry ‘em all with nuke-tipped Taepo-Dong
(Bush) Hold awn, yuh mangy, low-life cur
Ah’m ballistic when Ah go nook-yuh-ler
[Refrain]
(Kim, Bush) Babe
(Kim) I got nukes, babe
(Bush) Mah nukes work, babe
Buwhahahahahaha! Maestro Santini’s best yet.
Upon further reflection, I believe the 1994 North Korean Atoms-For-Peace-Policy of Presidents Clinton and Carter was a stroke of brilliance. I hope there isn’t too much negative fallout from the recent turn of events because I’d hate for the glow of that monumental step toward world peace to decay into radioactive bickering.
While the DemDonks engage in their anal rententive fascination with congressional cyber-sex and dreaming up new ways to ply their politics of personal destruction, Kim Jong Il continues his headlong pursuit of the politics of nuclear destruction.
77 RedPepper // Oct 12, 2006 at 8:15 pm
My, my. Where did all this nostalgia come from. Thanks to you, CatManToo, for the link to the Wayback Machine … took a quick peek there earlier today, saw some names I barely recalled … as well as some others I still remembered … Ranbutan and Lib-Maggot and Cassandra and the Were-Penguins of Seville … and some others who are still here. Y’all know who you are …
78 da Bunny // Oct 12, 2006 at 8:27 pm
Santini, another classic in “I Got Nukes, Babe!” You ARE ‘da man!
Godfrey, I’m sorry to hear of the loss of your friend. What a tragic thing that happened!
“…Back to the Food Age”
Scott, you are one clever guy!!
79 JamesonLewis3rd // Oct 12, 2006 at 8:41 pm
The mere suggestion that Cindy Sheehan would be even nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize is beyond laughable or pathetic or…..I don’t know what.
Apparently, there’s a list of 191 possible winners (winner to be chosen tomorrow), and FOX News says Sheehan has “revealed” she’s one of them.
Just thought I’d brighten up your evening.
80 RedPepper // Oct 12, 2006 at 8:54 pm
Hey there, JL3! Evening!
From Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn to Mama Moonbat in a few short years! Reminds me of a quote from Aliens :
Woo! We’re on the express elevator to Hell! Goin’ down!
81 onlineanalyst // Oct 12, 2006 at 9:14 pm
Don’t be too hard on Bubba re NoKo, too, Darth, or you will have that emphatic finger of irateness thrust into your thigh. Our first Black president has a legacy to maintain, doncha know?
Re that Nobel Peace Prize: Wasn’t Took-took-tookie, good-bye a contenduh, as well? Ah, whatever happened to standards?
82 Godfrey // Oct 12, 2006 at 9:14 pm
Thanks y’all. Your well wishes and prayers are something that would have meant a lot to Tyler. I don’t want to overplay our closeness: he was a flying buddy more than a hang-out buddy. What I feel is more shock than grief, although there’s certainly a measure of that. But I really like him a lot and I had a tremendous respect of his abilities as a pilot.
Been glued to the news or the phone for most of the day. It’s been surreal to hear Wolf Blitzer et al mention Tyler. It’s funny but it really irks me when they say his name wrong. It’s Stanger, not Stangler or Sanger. It’s odd that that should matter.
I’m going to miss what Ty called “hundred-dollar hamburgers” (where you burn a ridiculous amount of fuel flying to a faraway airport, eat a hamburger at the airport cafe and then turn around and fly home).
Tyler understood and accepted the risks…all pilots do. What gets me most is the fact that he left a pregnant wife and a new baby behind. My heart really goes out to them, as well as to Lidle’s family.
Thanks again to all you Scrapplers. Your sentiments are very much appreciated.
83 conserve-a-tip // Oct 12, 2006 at 9:15 pm
Awww. C’mon guys. The day that Jimmy Carter won a Nobel Peace Prize, ya shoulda known that the whole concept was as relevant as the UN.
What do you expect from a prize funded by a man’s fortune that he left to the likes of Carter and Shehan instead of taking care of his family? His family certainly thought that he was irrelevant!!
84 JamesonLewis3rd // Oct 12, 2006 at 9:39 pm
RE: #80~~
Greetings, RedPepper!
It’s, like, nothing has any meaning anymore. Know what I mean?
Your quote from Aliens somehow gave me a mental fantasy/picture that the world isn’t on its way to hell so much as hell is on its way to the world-evil oozing up through the Earth’s surface or down through the atmosphere, closing in.
Of course, I guess, that’s not far from the Truth:
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.~~Ephesians 6:12
But this is something I’m sure of, something I do know:
Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him that loved us.
For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.~~Romans 8:37-39
/waxing-Biblical mode off
85 Ain't That Some Bull Shit // Oct 12, 2006 at 9:40 pm
(NorKo) Is appeasement our only option?
Clinton, Bush Follow Same Appeasement Strategy: Two very different administrations and yet one very similar policy when it comes to rogue states and terror-supporting governments: appeasement. In Front Page Magazine, Caroline Glick writes that while th…
86 RedPepper // Oct 12, 2006 at 10:13 pm
JL3: I ’spect evil’s just more obvious now & then; and, as Hannah Arendt observed, downright banal.
A trend I fear is apt to continue …
87 Maggie // Oct 12, 2006 at 10:21 pm
‘da sunny Bunny….well…well…well….re#78
I see you popped up out’chor hole to say hello,thought you had forgotten us.We’ve missed you.Hug Jupy for me.
88 Darthmeister // Oct 12, 2006 at 10:30 pm
Hugh Hewitt righteously nails the crooked deals of Harry Greed here at his blog.
And where is the lamestream media? Probably look for another 18 year old male page to admit he received dirty emails from homosexual predator Mark Foley. Except for the AP … ***crickets chirping***.
89 Darthmeister // Oct 12, 2006 at 10:31 pm
When the question of real congressional scum was recently brought up for public debate, Mary Jo Kopechne was not available for comment.
90 JamesonLewis3rd // Oct 12, 2006 at 10:36 pm
RE: #86~~
RedPepper~~
Good point. Thanks.
91 maf54 // Oct 12, 2006 at 10:43 pm
harry ried is as bad a crook as there is in the congress. forget abromhoff, forget foley, the authorities need only follow the money in that case. trust me. something stinks to high heavan.
and cindy sheemale? if she wins the nobel prize, then the world is in some serious trouble. lol!
ps. scrapplers, how do you embed links in postings?
92 JamesonLewis3rd // Oct 12, 2006 at 10:53 pm
The how-to can be found here.
93 Ghoti // Oct 13, 2006 at 1:47 am
Off-topic, I know, but I need to vent with this post. I think this needs to be read by conservatives everywhere, and if Scott has another article tomorrow morning, I will post it again so it appears earlier in a string.
Dana Blankenhorn posted an article on his website on October 8th entitled Watching the Temple Fall, in which he avows that “this election is, in every meaningful sense, already over” – unless Republicans steal it.
Following a sickening diatribe of doom and gloom, he makes the following statement in his last paragraph:
“If the Republicans do steal this election, it will be so obvious that all of them – all of them – will be destroyed. Not just pushed out of office. Their lives will be forfeit, their fortunes will be seized, their families will either be killed or die in exile like those of Third World despots. Because that’s what they will have become.”
I’m sick and tired of being told that conservatives will stay home on election day, but and further incites me to react. I’ll be working diligently in these last few weeks to encourage Republicans in the important Senate race in Tennessee to vote, and nothing short of death will keep me from voting in this election.
94 Fred Sinclair // Oct 13, 2006 at 5:17 am
Just a thought - to keep the Liberal Left happy & solve their problem with President Bush and IRAQ once and for all time. How about President Bush recalling all military and equipment home from Iraq permanently (to deploy along our Southern Border) sending a few hundred thousand airline tickets (one way from Iraq to America) to the Islamic Radical Terrorists - each ticket with the name and address of their Liberal Left “sponsor” [with whom they will move in with and live - for as long as they may so wish] All food, lodging and other expenses to be covered by their sponsors.
That would give the Loonies a chance to really PROVE just how much they love their Terrorists buddie-buddies.
PS: Of course I don’t really believe that the Left side of the aisle would sustain the President with their vote on this. Of course, if they did, Levin, Kennedy & Murtha would be fighting to get their name at the top of the “sponsors” list. Right?
Fred Sinclair, Heirborn Ranger
95 Beerme // Oct 13, 2006 at 6:34 am
Godfrey,
So sorry to hear of the loss of your friend. Thoughts and prayers are going out to you and Mr. Stanger’s family (so sad to know the children have lost their father at so tender an age!).
TGS,
Well, sir. You have truly outdone yourself on that Sonny and Cher parody! That mental image was so funny. Il Kim and Bush on stage, ala Sonny and Cher, in period dress…I can just see Il Kim tossing his hair and licking his lips like Cher! A fine job!
Cheers!
96 TouchyFeely // Oct 13, 2006 at 8:15 am
Ann Coulter has a good column on this this week. The US gave them about $10 billion ($4 billion +2 nuclear reactors) in exchange for a promise not to pursue nuclear weapons. Per her article, we promised not to inspect for four years afterward.
Also per her article, per the NY Times, shortly thereafter, they immediately started pursuing nuclear weapons.
It is sad to say, but any humanitarian relief we give this regime goes to offset any bare minimums that Kim Jong Il would have spent on his people, freeing up more money for weapons and military. There won’t be a revolution until the army can no longer stomach his abuses.
97 Darthmeister // Oct 13, 2006 at 8:37 am
I get sick and tired of US administrations propping up despots with foreign aid and promises and the left swooning like that is such a great humanitarian gesture that will surely result in the totalitarian government reforming its ways for the betterment of all mankind.
And then when America runs out of patience and takes down despots and tyrants, the liberals then declare war against the other half of the American people as well as the administration that has the gall to upset the applecart of love. I know any number of LLL moonbats who still pine for the days of the old Soviet Union. They consider it a dirty trick on the part of the Reagan and Bush 41 administrations to spend the Soviet Union into oblivion.
98 Darthmeister // Oct 13, 2006 at 9:15 am
Off Topic, but did anyone know Congressman Mark Foley used to be a Democrat? I guess sometimes it’s not an issue of teaching an old dog new tricks but rather the old dog engaging in old tricks!
Excellent commentary at the AmericanSpectator about the shameless Democratic debauchery and hypocritical fingerpointing they engaged in with respect to Mark Foley. Already it feels like old news, I bet the DemDonks thought it would have more legs … until it started coming apart at the seams.
99 Maggie // Oct 13, 2006 at 9:47 am
Ot,
Excellent post over at Red-Sattellites, frightening but interesting stats on Muslim hate and violence in France.
JL3rd….I tried to understand the how to link online but failed miserably.
100 Darthmeister // Oct 13, 2006 at 9:59 am
Godfrey,
WhizBang thinks they have the radar track of the air traffic in the region. It appears that Lidle/Stanger had avoided a possible mid-air collision with another aircraft a minute before they hit the hi-rise. Their plane is colored red and the whole radar overlay is in iconic format.
I don’t know if you would be up to seeing it, but there was a lot of other air traffic in the area at the time. It’s possible the earlier avoidance manuever may have damaged their aircraft’s airframe in some way or created a problem with their engine. The other aircraft (black) disappears because it goes below the radar tracking horizon.
101 red satellites // Oct 13, 2006 at 10:02 am
Good morning Scrapplers!
Thanks Maggie for the endorsement…
Remember: If at first you don’t succeed, don’t try skydiving.
102 Ms RightWing, Ink // Oct 13, 2006 at 10:20 am
A late good morning to all. We succeeded in pulling off our first killing frost this am with a temperature of 32 degrees. Now I can finally say good by to summer and I hope it killed off all the ragweed, which because of algore, is the worse in recorded history.
Open them lungs up and breath America, the wicked weed is dead!
103 Ms RightWing, Ink // Oct 13, 2006 at 10:26 am
It is rather humorous to certain point to see Democrats in action. Nobody that has more than a nickel in their pockets is safe. Here in the rust belt, where neither political seems to give a rat’s butt about building a new economy, money is raised for programs by suing the hind in off “bad people.”
When new companies look around for an area where they can invest in they sure stay away from NE Ohio. Wonder why? Read below
http://www.newsnet5.com/news/10061978/detail.html
104 JamesonLewis3rd // Oct 13, 2006 at 10:26 am
49° here (D/FW area), at the moment, but I’m leaving the window open…..just because.
105 Shelly // Oct 13, 2006 at 10:40 am
We Tarheels are looking at low thirties tonight as well. Guess it’s time to yank the basil out of the herb garden and stick it into a pot.
106 Ms RightWing, Ink // Oct 13, 2006 at 10:56 am
My Rosemary has taken refuge in the bunker. The potted basil has long since lived its lifespan since ol’man Sol disappeared behind the 13 story fortress until next spring. My sage is looking strong and will hang on for a while despite the cold. I need to make some herb bread and stuff it into the freezer when I get my strength back
I am about to descend to ground floor and check out my Marigolds, the last bloom left in my small patch. I am sure the sunflowers took a hit but for some reason the goldfinches have not come around to clean the heads off. The flowers are the smaller burnt orange instead of the huge golden sunflowers, so usually the smaller birds like to feast on them.
I reckon it is time to mentally change seasons since we had little snow bursts yesterday. But today, although nippy, the sun is shinning in all its glory. I need to take a bus down to K-Mart and see a man about a freezer. Taint got no credit though. Hmmm, is that good or bad?
The Democrats can’t take what I don’t have
107 maf54 // Oct 13, 2006 at 11:02 am
ghoti,
i appreciated your post. its true. have you seen the attack add with kim and madeline albright? lol! it is perfect. i love it how the left supports dictators in the name of diplomacy and it always comes back to bite them in the behind.
its only 40 degrees where we are. brrr.
108 R.A.M. // Oct 13, 2006 at 11:11 am
I feel as if we are being lol-ed to sleep.
On topic: I understand after MADelyn DIMbright was there in 1994, they had to ask for more food, as she ate what had been rationed for serveral villages, for a six month period.
109 maf54 // Oct 13, 2006 at 11:19 am
off topic: it appears the gov. mark warner is not going to run for president. do you think that he has something to hide? perhaps a sex scandle? the dims are just as bad if not worse.
110 Shelly // Oct 13, 2006 at 11:30 am
GCS, hope you have a good lawyer!
111 GnuCarSmell // Oct 13, 2006 at 11:41 am
Shelly - Thanks. I am expecting five to ten — maybe parole in three if I’m good.
112 Ghoti // Oct 13, 2006 at 11:52 am
I’m headed out to a USAF reunion for the weekend, but it might be too cold to play golf comfortably. This will probably be the weekend that we get all those missing hurricanes that were predicted, too. Darn Bush and his global warming.
113 maf54 // Oct 13, 2006 at 11:57 am
did anyone see o’reilly last night and his talking points about the rise of the s-ps? scary. to think that pelosi may become the speaker of the house is truly frieghtening and should motivate all conservatives to get out the vote!
114 Darthmeister // Oct 13, 2006 at 11:57 am
GnuCarSmell,
Grist moonbats like Roberts are but one more proof that the logical consequences of pure, unadulterated liberalism is fascism.
Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has not heart; and any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains. — Winston Churchill
115 Godfrey // Oct 13, 2006 at 12:03 pm
Hank re: #100: Wow! I’ll definitely check it out. I had no idea historical radar tracks were available online. I’d hate to see some of mine. :-/
As far as my being up to it, the only thing I don’t think I’ll be viewing is the Coast Guard video on CNN. But as a pilot (and of course as a friend) I certainly want to know what transpired before the crash. This is great: I’ve been combing through the “official statements” of the NTSB but they are very cautious about what they say. Raw data would be nice.
If anyone would like to read about Tyler there are a few articles on him, including a clickable full-sized picture (which was shot with a fisheye and frankly doesn’t look much like him):
Washington Post and a local paper, the Whittier Daily News.
He was a pretty amazing young man.
116 upnorthlurkin // Oct 13, 2006 at 12:30 pm
Godfrey, may I add my sympathies in the loss of your friend? You’ve shared your friend with us and we all feel your loss.
As for the contest….it was 25° up here this morning….now that’s a killing frost!! It’s up to 40° now! Heat wave! :lol:!
117 nylecoj // Oct 13, 2006 at 12:42 pm
Since there is so much weather talk I’ll throw mine in. I live in a desert type area so even in the summer we have cool evenings. Once fall hits we get cold nights and warm days. The night before last we had freeze warnings (we are pretty agricultural here) for over night and it was 72 degrees the next day. It will be like that for another couple of weeks. I can’t tell you how many times I have been very sorry to have left my coat at the office by mistake because it was so warm and shivered all the way to work the next mornning.
118 Darthmeister // Oct 13, 2006 at 1:07 pm
Godfrey, if we’re talking about the same Coast Guard videotape, it was on the evening news last night and all you can really see is the splash of the collision. I couldn’t even detect the aircraft itself on my 32″ widescreen HD television. I think the local station may not be broadcasting in HD but the wide-angle nature of the original shot didn’t provide enough pixel resolution to be able to detect the aircraft with my naked eye.
I imagine if someone ran it through a video processor and did a frame-by-frame they might see something, but just seeing the impact splash is enough for me. I have to believe from what I’ve seen the deaths of the two men was virtually instantaneous. I doubt pain signals even had the time to make it to the brain in accidents like this.
My prayers continue to go out to the surviving family members and acquaintances like you who are probably still dealing with the emotional dislocation in witnessing the lives of two young, vibrant people so full of joy in what they were doing so quickly snuffed out in a very unfortunate accident.
119 JamesonLewis3rd // Oct 13, 2006 at 1:09 pm
RE: #110~~
GnuCarSmell~~
Yeah, next after the “Climate Nuremberg” trials will come the “Speech Nuremberg” trials and the “Thought Nuremberg” trials.
George Monbiot’s paranoid rants about the “Denial Industry” in his book HEAT: How to Stop the Planet from Burning include this:
“…..But what I have discovered while researching this issue is that the corporate funding of lobby groups denying that manmade climate change is taking place was initiated not by Exxon, or by any other firm directly involved in the fossil fuel industry. It was started by the tobacco company Philip Morris.”
120 maf54 // Oct 13, 2006 at 1:14 pm
godfrey,
maybe you can clear something up for me. i know its a terrible tragedy that two people died but what where they thinking 1) flying in such crowded airspace; and 2) flying directly into a building? no offense to your friend, but shouldn’t he have directed the plane in the opposite direction or at least pulled the chute and landed in the east river?
again, i don’t mean to minimize the tragedy of the whole thing, but this could have been much worse and, to me, was pretty irresponsible.
121 Darthmeister // Oct 13, 2006 at 1:22 pm
More LLL whackiness. Here’s a California-based program that helps “immigrants” (aka - illegal aliens) get food stamps in four hours! Send your cards and letters of thanks to KMEX radio.
Now I ask, dear American taxpayer, how does it feel to be taken for a ride by bleeding-heart liberals who define their compassion by how much of your tax money they can give away to ILLEGAL ALIENS! Now for Marvin the Martian I might make an exception. I guess we should make Bugs Bunny the Director of Border Security given the illegals’ success in getting into America and now getting on the dole.
122 JamesonLewis3rd // Oct 13, 2006 at 1:27 pm
RE: #121~~
How very nice of you to bash a recently deceased friend with false assumptions based on total ignorance of the facts.
123 maf54 // Oct 13, 2006 at 1:33 pm
jasonlewis,
my question is a genuine one. listen: i know he was a personal friend of godfrey’s and that he was a nice lad with a family, but 11 firefighters were injured, 2 people were killed and it could have been a lot worse. everyone knows that lidle was inexperienced and that strangler was relatively young and certainly inexperienced with flying in the crowded airspace around nyc. i’m just asking the question. no offense meant.
124 Shelly // Oct 13, 2006 at 2:00 pm
Well, folks, I think we now know what we’re dealing with - strangler??? - and I think our instincts were correct.
125 egospeak // Oct 13, 2006 at 2:04 pm
Re #121 & 124 maf54
Your question may be genuine, but it is absolutely tasteless. You remind me of an ambulance chaser. You aren’t, by any chance, a lawyer on the side. I know you claim to be a journalist. Let the authorities do their job and come to their conclusions before muddying the water with speculation. “no offense meant.” Plenty of offense taken.
126 JamesonLewis3rd // Oct 13, 2006 at 2:06 pm
a) My name is NOT jason.
b) Your ignorance of the facts remains.
127 JamesonLewis3rd // Oct 13, 2006 at 2:07 pm
Here’s what Rush had to say about the “Skeptic Nuremberg” trials.
128 maf54 // Oct 13, 2006 at 2:18 pm
egospeak: lol! no way am i a lawyer. thats great. me thinks i’d need a litttle more education for that. i do watch ‘law and order’ re-runs though! lol!
jl3: sorry about mispelling your name. why am i ignorant of the facts? please tell me what the facts are. perhaps its insensitive, but to me, it could’ve been worse and these two had no business flying in the city. those are the facts.
i do agree with your post about rush’s thoughts about the looney left’s thoughts about global warming.
129 al franken // Oct 13, 2006 at 2:21 pm
I’m busted flat! Well, there’s always the Senate. Gamma Ray baby! See you in Court.
130 egospeak // Oct 13, 2006 at 2:31 pm
maf54
You are obviously not a grammar teacher either. BTW, do our public indoctrination centers still teach grammar anymore?
As for your statement that “these two had no business flying in the city”, that is an opinion, not a fact.
If you are in fact a journalist, it is a sad commentary on the state of modern day journalism that you don’t know the difference.
131 maf54 // Oct 13, 2006 at 2:38 pm
egospeak.
i guess reasonable people can disagree. but in the wake of 9/11, i think its a shame that the airspace over the most densly populated area in the country is not restricted. i also think that it is fortuitious that no innocent party was killed in the accident.
anyhow, thanks for your concern over my grammar. i will not stoop to ad homiem attacks. i suppose its easier to concentrate on commas than the substance of my concern.
132 The Great Santini // Oct 13, 2006 at 2:38 pm
da Bunny:
Wascawwy Wabbit Woman weappears! T’anks for da kind woids, stwanger.
§[:-)]
Beerme:
You captured the essence of “I Got Nukes, Babe.” It must be the brew [cue sound of beer steins clinking].
Maestro Ott’s satire conjured up visions of cheesy hairdos—et voila!—out came a parody involving Sonny (Room Temperature) Bono, Cher (The Garish Geezer) Sarkisian, Kim Jong (Micro Dong)-Il. Hoo-wee, beer is potent!
§[:-)]
133 JamesonLewis3rd // Oct 13, 2006 at 3:00 pm
I wonder why the ACLU hasn’t (have they?) thought of this? Yet.
And here’s the new USArmy recruiting video based on the new slogan “Army Strong.” It is way cool.
/link-flurry mode off
134 Godfrey // Oct 13, 2006 at 3:05 pm
maf/ET:
You really don’t deserve this answer, but you’re talking about a friend of mine so you’re going to get it.
What where they thinking 1) flying in such crowded airspace
I fly around LAX all the time. It’s “crowded” too…in fact it is among the most crowded airspace in the world. There are procedures. You maintain separation. Traffic flying in different directions flies at different altitudes. You become hyper-aware of your surroundings. Tyler was not “young” by FAA standards. He was a very experienced pilot who knew aircraft and his own limitations intimately.
Does your mother let you drive on the freeway? Are there (gasp) other cars? What is she thinking?
and 2) flying directly into a building?
You are an imbecile. I’m not a violent person but I am a big enough guy that I promise you wouldn’t have the guts to ask me that question face to face.
If you did you’d lose whatever is left of your teeth.
135 egospeak // Oct 13, 2006 at 3:08 pm
re # 125 Shelly
# 135 Godfrey
Amen and Amen
136 maf54 // Oct 13, 2006 at 3:42 pm
godfry,
no offense was meant. i certainly would ask you that question face to face (threats of violence notwithstanding- and, believe me, that is not a battle you would want to undertake. lol!) and i think others here have the same question. isn’t it concerning to you that a terrorist (or a 2nd rate pitcher) can take a plane and fly it into a building?
i’m sorry if you feel that i’m attacking you. i am not. i am attacking those who allow amateur pilots and trainers in such crowded space. i don’t want another 9/11 to happen. do you?
137 R.A.M. // Oct 13, 2006 at 3:55 pm
I tried to warn you about the troll.
If you ignore “it”, then “it” will soon tire of being ignored and go away—-at least for a little while.
138 nylecoj // Oct 13, 2006 at 4:00 pm
re #137, Amateur pilots who are not terrorists will not cause another 9/11.
I do know that I did not have the same questions you did.
I also believe that if we continue on the slippery slope of making every potentially dangerous endeavor regulated or illegal we be living in a police state.
Godfrey’s point in #135 is a good one, with your logic why are any of us on a highway?
139 Darthmeister // Oct 13, 2006 at 4:00 pm
Hmmmm, bouncing off of maf54’s inanity, maybe there ought to be an internship of five years for inexperienced journalists. God knows what train wrecks “experienced” journalists have created with stories they’ve rushed to press which contain all manner of inaccuracies and sometimes outright bias. How many lives have literally been destroyed by the libels and slanders of inexperienced/experienced journalists and their kangaroo courts …. hmmmmmm?
Say maf54, you say you “don’t want another 9/11 to happen.” Hate to disabuse you of that bit of moonbattery, but creating false moral equivalences between foreign terrorists hijacking fuel-laden jetliners and purposely ramming them into buildings and two American private pilots accidentally flying a private aircraft into a building. I seriously doubt any private aircraft could possibly create the mayhem of 9/11 unless it was loaded with C-4. Ergo, America private pilots and private aircraft accidentally flying into buildings haven’t a snowball’s chance of creating “another 9/11″. Sheesh!
140 nylecoj // Oct 13, 2006 at 4:02 pm
Sorry no eubonics intended, that should read… we will be living…..
141 nylecoj // Oct 13, 2006 at 4:04 pm
Eubonics, ebonics well which ever it is it was not intended sheesh!
142 Shelly // Oct 13, 2006 at 4:07 pm
James, you were right about the Army video. Awesome. Because I wish I knew enough to put “strangler” in boldface in #125, I am now going to attept to decipher some info on html - as soon as I finish the book I’m reading. I hope you’ll all find my initial attempts amusing.
What I can’t find but would love to is video of Raj Bhaktar riding the elephant over the border while the band is playing. I actually saw it on FoxNews but my hubby and sons haven’t. My husband heard Rush describing it today while driving and said he had to stop the car he was laughing so loud.
143 JamesonLewis3rd // Oct 13, 2006 at 4:09 pm
RE: #s 141-42~~
nylecoj~~
I hate it when that happens…..
144 Darthmeister // Oct 13, 2006 at 4:10 pm
Sorry, shouldn’t have brought morality into it … should read “false equivalences” because that’s exactly what maf54 engages in.
As I’ve said before, maf54 is a thinly-disguised troll. And I’m saddened that Godfrey has to put up with such tripe from a newbie troll - a veritable FAA/NTSB wannabe. This being only my third post about this troll, I’m not wasting any more bandwith debunking such contrived posts.
145 Ms RightWing, Ink // Oct 13, 2006 at 4:26 pm
All I can say is stay out of Buffalo. I wrote on my blog that I live in a dirty old factory town, well Buffalo is dirtier-but today they are glistening white.
The wind here is fierce. I was on my way to Sears in order to purchase a new freezer (not that I wanted to) when suddenly my wheelchair was lifted high into the sky by a violent gust. From way up in the ionosphere I could see Kansas and before I knew it Munchkins were pulling me back to the ground.
Thankfully, I still landed on this side of the rainbow because Jesse Jackson was standing on the left of the colorful arc repeating over and over some mantra about give me, give me.
Whew, what a day.
P.S. I did get my freezer, Some catering company is suppose to start delivering frozen meals eighteen at a time. I rather think my side by side would burst open if I tried to fill it up like that. So let me do the math, free meals but I had to spend um-teen hundred dollars on a freezer. Sounds like government work to me.
146 R.A.M. // Oct 13, 2006 at 4:28 pm
Shelly: Try this link,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAcIGx-nxdI
147 maf54 // Oct 13, 2006 at 4:34 pm
scrapplers,
i’m not a troll. infact, i am with you on about 99% of issues facing our country today. i suppose my question about the plane hitting the building is borne out of my journalistic inclinations. lol.
darth: what if a terrorist has c-4? what if they have biological weapons? a small plane could create mass havoc. and regarding your highway analogy-i’m not sure i need to remind you that even highways have rules. i, for instance, am not entitled to drive northbound in a southbound lane. nor am i allowed to drive on the sidewalks. all i am saying is that the airspace over nyc should be restricted. this should not have happened. lidle had less that 100 hours and his instructor was not competent in nyc airspace (sorry godfrey, but its true). this is not to say they were not nice guys and great family men.
in short, rules exist on the highway to prevent chaos. these same rules should be instituted in our airspace.
don’t crucify me for asking the question.
i feel for you, godfrey, but something went wrong. contrary to darths opinion, i believe that private planes can create havoc and can cause another 9/11. i remember 9/11 and don’t want it to happen again.
148 R.A.M. // Oct 13, 2006 at 4:39 pm
Shelly: Sorry to have to subject you to Rita Cosby and MSLSD, but that is the video I could find.
I think You-Tube is a bit left leaning, and that is why no Fox video of it.
149 R.A.M. // Oct 13, 2006 at 4:43 pm
Also sorry about passing that gas on #48 between my two comments.
Forgive me—-lol—:lol:
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151 R.A.M. // Oct 13, 2006 at 5:23 pm
That gas I passed was on #148, but you probably already knew that.
152 maf54 // Oct 13, 2006 at 5:32 pm
ram: it is a sign of weak intellect that you will not respond to my post, but rather engage in ad hominems. i think that’s because you know i’m right.
153 JamesonLewis3rd // Oct 13, 2006 at 5:33 pm
Typical Leftist Troll Tactic:
Make a false accusation based on false assumptions and then, later, falsely portray it as a legitimate journalistic question.
What an utterly despicable, lying, juvenile piece of dung.
Grrr…..
154 Shelly // Oct 13, 2006 at 5:33 pm
RAM, thanks for the link! I hope the good people of PA see fit to elect this man. And none of us noticed on #148 because we were busy hurling.
155 egospeak // Oct 13, 2006 at 5:40 pm
JL3 re #134
Good God man, don’t give them any ideas!!! I’m willing to bet someone from the ACLU probably was connected in some way, shape, or form to that idiot lawsuit. Thank the good Lord above that it was thrown out because with our Supreme Court now taking foreign law into consideration when deciding cases, it would only be a matter of time before it would come before them and heaven only knows what Breyer, Stephens et al would do with it.
And to think there are still people who believe it might be a good thing if the Republicans lose the House and/or Senate just to teach them a lesson. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.
Elections matter. Be afraid, be very afraid!
156 R.A.M. // Oct 13, 2006 at 5:53 pm
Shelly: Pepto Bismol is good for gas AND upset stomach!
RAID works well on pests, but as I said, if you ignore trolls, they soon tire and either “moveon”, or change their “mask” and return as a new and improved, ( in their “mind”—or what’s left of it after the drug abuse), troll.
157 maf54 // Oct 13, 2006 at 6:00 pm
jason,
i repeat: i am not a leftist, i am not a troll. perhaps it is easier to dismiss what i have to say by calling me a troll, but the fact remains, i am not. if fact i probably lie somewhere to the right of you and to the left of gengis khan. lol. sometimes asking the tough questions is not pleasant. i notice that you did not respond to my earlier assertion about airflight restrictions over dense population centers.
again, this is not to disparage strangler or lidle. they were probably very good people-just not the most skillful pilots. (exhibit ‘a’: the gaping hole in the nyc high rise).
i think what i am suggesting is quite reasonable and a natural extension of the war on terror. lets keep our eye on the ball. if you call me a lyer, back it up with facts.
and, please, refrain from the ad hominems-it makes you look desparate.
158 nylecoj // Oct 13, 2006 at 6:14 pm
maf,
Drop it!
For the record I am not so sure you are a Troll, but apparently your skill set does not include the social wherewithal to watch your mouth when someone is going through a bad time.
Use some sense man! Get onto another subject.
159 JamesonLewis3rd // Oct 13, 2006 at 6:17 pm
a) My name is NOT jason.
b) You should look up the definition of ad hominem.
c) Your false accusations are based on false assumptions.
d) Read your post #121 and all of your following posts for the lies.
e) By the way, it’s spelled liar, “journalist.”
160 JamesonLewis3rd // Oct 13, 2006 at 6:20 pm
I’ll not respond (take the bait) any more.
I’m sorry folks.
161 nylecoj // Oct 13, 2006 at 6:30 pm
Don’t be sorry JL3.
162 conserve-a-tip // Oct 13, 2006 at 6:53 pm
Darthmeister, re #98: Well shiver me timbers. I looked up Foley’s background and by golly you are right. He was a democrat until he was in his 30’s and then he switched parties because he lost an election bid. He even served on the city council as a Democrat. Hmmm. Seems that he was in the closet on more then sex,huh?
Oh and he has never married. I didn’t know that either. Thanks for the little tidbit.
163 Beerme // Oct 13, 2006 at 7:00 pm
Well, I am no journalist (but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night), but I will say…I told you so…
164 maf54 // Oct 13, 2006 at 7:04 pm
jason & jocylen:
i am not attacking godfrey. he lost someone close to him and that is horrible. it is a waste.
i think everyone here, including godfrey, is interested in security and defeating the terrorists. i see the darth hasn’t asnwered my questions either.
i am not interested in stirring the pot or acting troll-like. i’m just asking why, 5 years after 9/11, we haven’t prevented private pilots (regardless of their fitness of flying) from traversing huge population centers? it is a legit question. does anyone have an answer? or does jason want to continue to call me a liar and a troll without discussing the question.
i think when the tragedy of the ordeal is behind us, we will ask ourselves why this was allowed to occur. it doesn’t make me feel any safer knowing there are journeymen relief pitchers and mere children flying over one of the biggest and best cities in the world. am i wrong?
165 nylecoj // Oct 13, 2006 at 7:07 pm
Re #163 I am really glad to hear he has never married. For some reason it always seems even more disgusting to me when we find out someone has predilections like Foley’s and they have a wife and kids at home.
166 maf54 // Oct 13, 2006 at 7:09 pm
i hate to say i told you so, but …
ps. thanks to jason for the tip on embeding links. lol.
167 nylecoj // Oct 13, 2006 at 7:13 pm
maf,
Are you dyslexic? Not that there is anything wrong with that, but you managed to almost put my name backwards but in doing so you transposed some letters. Just curious.
RE165. You are indeed wrong!!
168 conserve-a-tip // Oct 13, 2006 at 7:15 pm
In answer to the grammar question - nope - they don’t teach it in school anymore. You should read the papers that my daughter gets from her student leaders.
But I have a real funny for you regarding our students’ grasp of facts. The number 2 son, who is in aviation but is getting a degree in mathematics and physics, is in a class on the History of Mathematics. He is doing one of those dreaded “team” projects where he is at the mercy of a blonde sorority girl (like-like-you want me to write-like-a paper???), the loud pitcher of the baseball team (I am the pitcher of the baseball team so why am I taking this class?) and one of the football players with a mohawk and a ponytail (dude, ya mean I gotta read something?). My son is freaked out over this project, which is a presentation on the role of the Hindus in today’s mathematics, since he went to the library with his crew to do research and after gathering books his sorority girl partner angrily stated, “I can’t believe that librarian gave me all these books on Indians. I told her that I needed stuff on Hindus!!!!” (Here’s your sign)
169 Beerme // Oct 13, 2006 at 7:15 pm
What a fine group of people that hang around this site! I am perhaps most proud of those willing to believe the best in people, to ensure that they haven’t misjudged an innocent.
It is, however, a wonder the depths to which some are willing to slither.
On a happier note, how about them Tigers???
170 maf54 // Oct 13, 2006 at 7:16 pm
jocylen, why am i wrong?
171 nylecoj // Oct 13, 2006 at 7:22 pm
c-a-t,
That is not all they no longer teach in school. My kids are out but I am very concerned about my grandkids. What the heck will they not be learning. I have seriously been considering retirement for home schooling.
172 nylecoj // Oct 13, 2006 at 7:27 pm
fam45,
I don’t know why you are wrong, perhaps it is because you seem to speak without thinking, but you have been all day.
And if you want my opinion on regulations and laws you can go back up and find my post about it. I don’t remember the number.
173 conserve-a-tip // Oct 13, 2006 at 7:37 pm
maf54, I went to bat for you, but purposely calling James, Jason makes you an antagonizer.
And to answer your question, the reason that small planes are flying in populated areas, is that big planes are flying in populated areas too! The airports are in populated areas. If you look on the eastern and western seaboards, there is no such thing as an unpopulated area. There is a specific altitude that planes are to have over buildings, but in this particular case, his plane stalled and he lost control.
Our community is right next to an airforce base and the flight patterns go right over our home. It is the way it is. If it wasn’t over our home, it would be over someone else’s home. The fact is that no matter what we do, a bad person is going to figure out how to wreak havoc. You can put alarms on your home, gates around the house, a gun in your pocket and dig a hole in your back yard for your money and some creep who has been watching you can come up from behind one day, hold a gun to your head while asking for yours, have you open your gates, and bypass your system, while handing you a shovel from your shed to dig up your money.
We have two choices, be diligent and do the best that we can, with the recognition that things happen and this life is not the end, or live in fear and bondage, taking all of our joy and freedom in life.
174 nylecoj // Oct 13, 2006 at 7:42 pm
Excellent post c-a-t.
Thanks
175 Beerme // Oct 13, 2006 at 7:43 pm
c-a-t,
Don’t waste your energy. New post!
176 JamesonLewis3rd // Oct 13, 2006 at 8:18 pm
Tomorrow there will be Op-Eds in the NYT, et al, demanding to know why President Bush permitted Wal-Mart to oppress/enslave its hapless-yet diligent and conscientious-employees.
Bob Woodward will start a book revealing Donald Rumsfeld’s connection to the Wal-Mart atrocities.
Cindy Sheehan will set up a tent in the parking lot and demand Bush be impeached.
Muslims will riot, of course, and behead cart jockeys.
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