Bush Admits He’s Trapped in Bubble
(2005-12-14) — President George Bush today, confirmed a recent Newsweek magazine cover story, admitting that he’s “living in a bubble” — isolated and aloof.
“I confess that I don’t wake up each day on the same planet as Newsweek’s editors,” said Mr. Bush. “So, I guess I’m isolated from the world where the U.S. is always wrong, terrorists have legitimate rights, Cindy Sheehan formulates sound foreign policy, record employment figures and falling gas prices signal imminent economic doom, civil rights are endangerd by preserving heterosexual marriage, abortion is the most valued freedom for women and the federal government fulfills the role of the father, the mother, the church and the local government.”
Mr. Bush said he agreed with the Newsweek assertion that he “may be the most isolated president in modern history.”
“I admit,” said Mr. Bush, “that I’m almost completely isolated from public opinion pollsters and journalists who start with answers and craft questions to elicit them. I’m virtually cut off from believing the non-stop barrage of negative news about an emerging democratic nation that will have three legitimate elections this year after decades of dictatorship. I’m aloof from the world in which bitter critics with no vision are treated as diplomats and sages.”
Mr. Bush added, “When you see a shimmering, transparent bubble wall, you gotta ask yourself: which side of it am I on?”
foist?
-Curly
Comment by Libby Gone — December 14, 2005 @ 9:27 am
Very amusing as always, nice work Scott!
Comment by boberin — December 14, 2005 @ 9:27 am
I hope I’m on the same side of the bubble as President Bush!
Comment by Libby Gone — December 14, 2005 @ 9:27 am
boberin,
Not really hiding, just haven’t found much humor lately due to trouble in the homestead.
Comment by Libby Gone — December 14, 2005 @ 9:29 am
sorry to hear that and I can relate. have an appt with a lawyer this afternoon to see how much he wants to defend my 17 y/o daughter from some pretty serious charges. ho, ho, ho…so to speak
Comment by boberin — December 14, 2005 @ 9:36 am
we better watch out, the site bulldog (beinho) is going to report us to the principal for talking off topic
Comment by boberin — December 14, 2005 @ 9:37 am
Scott,
Another fine thread….another post that hits the mark on these moonbats.
Comment by red satellites — December 14, 2005 @ 9:39 am
“No man is a bubble”
Comment by tomg — December 14, 2005 @ 9:51 am
The bubble isn’t to keep the Pres in, It was constructed by Karl Rove to keep the moonbats out. He is an evil genious afterall. Libby, I went through something similar about 8 yrs ago. It turned out to be one of the best things that ever happened to me. It seems to me that the biggest parts of God’s plan for us are often the hardest to see when they’re happening. Bober, Hate to hear about your daughter. Hope everything works out OK.
Comment by hwy93 — December 14, 2005 @ 9:52 am
thanks hwy, I hope your words to libby will also apply to her situation
moonbats out, funny!
Comment by boberin — December 14, 2005 @ 9:54 am
Does this mean the country is “bubble-headed”?
Comment by tomg — December 14, 2005 @ 10:03 am
…which side of the bubble.. indeed. Very deep Scott with multiple applications.
Comment by BienHoaBaby — December 14, 2005 @ 10:08 am
I hope Bush never leaves his “bubble”.
Comment by CWY — December 14, 2005 @ 10:12 am
the dam done burst and I can’t find the story anywhere!
so much for “instant” communication
Comment by boberin — December 14, 2005 @ 10:15 am
Loved the pollsters and journalists who start with answers and craft questions to elicit them.
Brilliant as usual, Scott!
Comment by upnorthlurkin — December 14, 2005 @ 10:15 am
(will someone please tell me what an RSS feed is?!) It takes a long time for new technology to reach us way up here!
Comment by upnorthlurkin — December 14, 2005 @ 10:16 am
Upnorth,
Resource Description Framework (RDF) Site Summary (RSS)….but I’ve never determined why it is needed or wanted or necessary..
Comment by red satellites — December 14, 2005 @ 10:24 am
If GWB is stuck inside a bubble, the MSM is locked inside a metal sphere, only able to see or hear itself. If you need proof just pick up the latest issue of Time magazine, which is featuring it’s annual “Best Photos” piece. From the beginning of the piece to the end you will see a clear theme; this country is a mess, the world is a mess, everything is dark and decaying, nothing good happened this year. Oh wait, they have a happy photo of avante gard art at the end of the piece. Never mind.
Comment by Jersey Guy — December 14, 2005 @ 10:28 am
Red, RSS is needed to complete Bill Gates’ plan to take over the world. Either that or it’s a plot by AOL to make it even harder to unsubscribe. I’m sure it’s one of the two. Jersey, at least it ends on a high note. Probably symbolic of the orwellian utopia that exists outside the “bubble”.
Comment by hwy93 — December 14, 2005 @ 10:41 am
“…which side of it am I on” - brilliant! I only wish our President could think of great lines like that.
Comment by Laure — December 14, 2005 @ 10:46 am
[…] Scrappleface on Bubble Boy. […]
Pingback by Not So Fast » Blog Archive » Ouch — December 14, 2005 @ 11:09 am
Laure,
To determine which side of the “bubble wall” your on simply look at a picture of President Bush, then look at a picture of Senator Kennedy. Now determine which one looks like they are an image out of a “fun house” mirror. Note: this test works equally well with Mickey Moore press photo’s.
Comment by hwy93 — December 14, 2005 @ 11:38 am
Red, Upnorth: RSS is Really Simple Syndication. It is a way to distribute content changes continually. It’s sort of like a live news feed. If you use Firefox as your browser, you’ll see a sort of “radio waves” like icon at the bottom when you’re on a site that uses RSS. If you click on the icon, you’ll add a bookmark that will always show the latest stories/comments in a pop-up menu for that site. Safari (on Mac) does something similar, but also gives you a number in parentheses to show you how many new stories there are…
Comment by Mondele — December 14, 2005 @ 11:53 am
Boberin, …………..I’ll be praying for your daughter. It’s an awfully tough world to be growing up in. I know this has got to be terribly hard on you and your wife ( matter of fact, I was wondering what was going on because of the tone of your posts…not the words, but the delivery ) .I thank God your daughter has you guys to lean on and to care about her through this ordeal. Seventeen is terribly young, terribly new to the world. I will be praying for her and for you and your wife and for her sister. I think that’s the whole family, right ?
Comment by Jackie — December 14, 2005 @ 12:02 pm
Godfrey, I submitted anew, to you , on Scott’s Kyoto post comment section.
Comment by Jackie — December 14, 2005 @ 12:11 pm
http://weblogawards.org/2005/12/best_humorcomics_blog.php Vote Scrappleface Best Comic Blog Simply Because It IS !!!!!!!!!!!! Tomorrow is the last voting day. And no matter how it turns out, WE LOVE SCOTT
Comment by Jackie — December 14, 2005 @ 12:16 pm
The majority of informed readers “don’t wake up on the same planet as Newsweek’s editors.” Thank goodness! Like too much of the Exempt Media, Newsweek creates the froth of nonsense that it reports and then wants to make the Bush Administration take a bath in it. Newsweek needs to take a hard look at its dwindling readership numbers before it devotes a cover story to isolation from reality.
Comment by onlineanalyst — December 14, 2005 @ 12:24 pm
glub glub glub..
I am in the bubble. That bubble state of mind. Better than being in the loop.
Happy Advent all. I have 30 minutes and thought I would stop in for some coffee. Frothy today please.
Lots of bubbles.
Bubblicious. Double bubble. Rub a dub bubble. hubba bubble. Bubble of Joy.
My eyes are dilated from the doctors. The screen is sooo white all I see are bubbles. Bubbles in the eyes…
Thanks for the coffee.
Comment by mig — December 14, 2005 @ 12:25 pm
Thank you jackie! i also have an older son and he has blessed me with 2 lovely grandchildren as well
yeah, the 17 y/o can still be a sweet and charming person, but she definately allowed others (and herself) to stray off the acceptable path. Lawyer today, plea hearing on the 22nd, a real ho, ho ho if there ever was one.
Part of me wants her to get off and a bigger part of me wants her punished severely, she should not have been doing what she was. Ain’t kids great?
Daughter in the National Guard graduates from college this Saturday with high honors. How did they turn out so differently? Who knows!
Comment by boberin — December 14, 2005 @ 12:27 pm
Mondele,
Thanks for the headsup…
Comment by red satellites — December 14, 2005 @ 12:31 pm
Finally, Bush is admitting a mistake.
What Bush and most Presidents of all stripes do not realize is that, we the American people, are quite ready and willing to forgive any President, if they will only face the fact they may have made a mistake and admit it publically.
Nixon is a prime example of the failure to recognize this fact ! And Clinton is also as well !
I give Bush every credit for this partial admission.
Saddam was never a threat to the safety of “The Continental United States” as was either originally stated or clearly implied.
There is no doubting that Saddam deserved to be toppled. However, I would point out that we did nothing when Pol Pot was slaughtering its own people by the thousands. I believe that happened on a Democrats watch.
Comment by bystander — December 14, 2005 @ 12:33 pm
I just hope GWB isn’t inside the real estate bubble; that baby’s about to pop!
4.5% Fed Funds rate. Yep, we be climbin’! Starting to hear little popping sounds…
Comment by Jersey Guy — December 14, 2005 @ 12:36 pm
jersey, you got that right! gonna be a big pop soon enough
Comment by boberin — December 14, 2005 @ 12:39 pm
boberin: No secret either. Read in BW that the inventory of available homes is slowly rising and sellers are no longer able to get their asking prices in many areas (although most folks are still pulling down huge gains). Oh well, we’ve seen this cycle before, right? Give it 5 to 10 years and home prices will be soaring again.
Hope everything works out with your daughter.
Comment by Jersey Guy — December 14, 2005 @ 12:47 pm
If anyone is living in a bubble, the vast Exempt Media, such as its Newsweek/DNC arm, with all of their investigative capabilities have missed stories worthy of pursuit and exposition to the public such as the Able Danger files that identified Atta all the way back to the Clinton Administration, the Oil-for-Food scandal that revealed the level of corruption in the UN and the complicit countries that participated in this scam, and now the latest connection of the Clinton cronies co-opting the IRS and the Justice Department as described in the Barrett Report.
Too much skullduggery is not unearthed because the Exempt Media and its DNC stringers are burying the bodies in order to breathe some life into the Democrat machine.
Comment by onlineanalyst — December 14, 2005 @ 12:47 pm
Just sittiing here waiting for Santini to swing in on “Tiny Bubbles”.
Bobo: Prayers and good thoughts! Congrats on the two fine children…we need all we can get to take over from the mess we sometimes leave behind.
POTUS speech today was OUTSTANDING! Very clear and direct…then the Dumbocrats come out and say…we need a timetable. Yea, so does the enemy…lets give them ours! What a bunch of el stupidos.
Great one again, Scott.
CWY: Nice site. Good news is hard to find. Keep posting it…the word will get out.
Over and out for now.
Comment by Just the Facts, Ma'am — December 14, 2005 @ 1:17 pm
bubbles….wonerful, ah wonerful
Comment by Maggie — December 14, 2005 @ 1:37 pm
Speaking of those trapped in a “bubble”, I am reminded of something Scriptural:
Matthew 7:1-5
1″Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
3″Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.
I’m just sayin’…
Comment by camojack — December 14, 2005 @ 1:40 pm
What’s really disgusting about this Newsweek puff-piece is that the weeklies have the time (no pun intended) to research and develop their stories. Instead they rely on the reporting of wire services or the Gray Lady’s interpretation, and with herd-mentality present this canned version and stuff it with fluff or anonymous sources to serve as a feast.
Why don’t the newshounds view their sources or whistleblowers with a degree of skepticism? Why do they assume that accusers are guided by righteousness? Could those leakers possibly be chafing under a reprimand, a Bolton-glower and threatening-mustache moment to avenge their bruised feelings? In laziness, too many journalists use boilerplate phrasing that betrays any thought beyond their party line or agenda. (My Christmas tree, I dare say, is “more highly decorated” than John Murtha (who himself should be under scrutiny for questionable practices the awarding of defense contracts. Will Newsweek pursue this story with the same avidity?)
The daily-sludge birdcage liners might have an excuse for sloppy journalism as they try to beat deadlines. Some even correct their errors. However, the story that sticks in people’s minds is the original one… and managing editors know that truism.
What credible speaker of policy wants to see his ideas or words cherrypicked to suit the slant of the story? Government press releases are not the only items that deserve scrutiny; the press itself is earning a well-earned award for propagandizing.
Comment by onlineanalyst — December 14, 2005 @ 1:41 pm
Wasn’t Glenda the Good Witch in a bubble?
Comment by Shelly — December 14, 2005 @ 1:49 pm
It’s the LSM and the dimbulbs living in the “bubble.”
Comment by da Bunny — December 14, 2005 @ 2:09 pm
The media turned a blind eye to much of the Clinton-era incompetency and corruption, focusing instead on the circus-culation-building story of “I’m forever blowing bubbles, er Bubba…”
Talk about tiny bubbles…
Comment by onlineanalyst — December 14, 2005 @ 2:12 pm
Wonder if that one will stick around?
Comment by da Bunny — December 14, 2005 @ 2:16 pm
Shelly,
Yes, indeed. Good catch!
But oddly, in the musical “Wicked”, its Galinda singing the song “Popular”, as though bubble-people are popular…
(All I know is from the soundtrack, I could be wrong, but I’ll take responsibility)
Comment by tomg — December 14, 2005 @ 2:25 pm
Carl Levin is in
a bubble. To wit:
“Sen. Carl M. Levin (D-Mich.) pledge(d) to defeat Smith’s nomination to be assistant secretary of defense for public affairs.
“I have deep concerns about whether or not he should be representing the United States government and the Department of Defense with that kind of attitude and approach,” Levin said after yesterday’s hearing.
“What got Levin’s knickers in a twist? Smith wrote this about al-Jazeera and its influence on American media:
“In an opinion piece published in the Wall Street Journal in April, Smith wrote: “Osama bin Laden, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, and al Qaeda have a partner in Al-Jazeera and, by extension, most networks in the U.S. This partnership is a powerful tool for the terrorists in the war in Iraq.”
Smith also singled out U.S. networks, saying: “Al-Jazeera has very strong partners in the U.S. — ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox, CNN and MSNBC. Video aired by Al-Jazeera ends up on these networks, sometimes within minutes.”
“Does Levin dispute this? The AJ network often shares its video with the American outlets, who then rush to get it on the air. AJ also maintains open contacts with Islamofascist terror groups, a well-known fact and one which usually nets it access to the latest in al-Qaeda propaganda straight from Osama or his number two man, Ayman al-Zawahiri. Smith, in other words, gave an accurate depiction of the flow of information. So what’s the problem?”
Comment by onlineanalyst — December 14, 2005 @ 2:35 pm
Well, I lost that one.
To his new home I shall lift a toast to the president (or a bagel). Where is my bottle of Bubble Up™?
Comment by Ms RightWing, Ink — December 14, 2005 @ 3:03 pm
What’ya mean they don’t make Bubble Up™ anymore. Rats.
Ooops that was the last post
Delete the rat remark.
Comment by Ms RightWing, Ink — December 14, 2005 @ 3:05 pm
Whoa, bystander, about that 12:33 post:
Bush must accept responsibility for acting on the failed intelligence of multiple nations? Bush must accept responsibility for the inaction of Blanco and Nagin? What parallel universe do you live on? How broad do his shoulders have to be?
If Santa doesn’t deliver the big bag o’ goodies to you come Christmas Day, will you blame Bush for that failure, too?
Comment by onlineanalyst — December 14, 2005 @ 3:15 pm
OT — It belongs on the Tookie thread but might be lost in the ever-churning news cycle. LaShawn Barber writes with clarity about redemption, crime, and punishment, distinguishing between the roles of individuals and those of the state.
Comment by onlineanalyst — December 14, 2005 @ 3:29 pm
No doubt about it, Bush lives within the bubble of reality while the lamestream media slavishly lives in its tinfoiled echo chamber. Anyone who can’t see the outright bias of the liberal lamestream media is only lying to himself/herself.
Anyone notice how the leftist media is propagandizing the masses with its fawning reports of the gay cowboy movie, “Brokeback”? It’s absolutely pathetic. The big propaganda push has been going on now for nearly two weeks and the movie has been nominated for seven golden globes! It is also being extolled by all the hoity-toity movie critics AND THE MOVIE HASN’T EVEN BEEN RELEASED TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC! And why should it. It can’t possibly compete with “Narnia” or “King Kong”.
Oh sure, it’s been pre-viewed at the art theaters that Pee Wee Herman used to frequent, to glowing praise of snooty urban liberals who think their twelve year old daughters ought to have the right to an abortion without their consent. But is this movie really that good?
I can just imagine two gay cowboys in the wide expanses of Wyoming … nope I can’t! What’s next, cowboys and their bestial love affairs with their horses? Sheesh! Give decent Americans a break. Quit the media’s mass propaganda campaign already. It’s free advertising for a film that is probably on par with that of the absolutely ridiculous “The Last Temptation of Christ.”
Comment by Darthmeister — December 14, 2005 @ 3:51 pm
C’mon onlineanalyst, don’t you know when nine whales and 24 dolphins beach themselves at Cape Cod…it’s all Bu$Hitler’s fault?
Bush didn’t reject the CIA’s intelligence reports and listen to child pornography purveyor Scott Ritter, therefore he’s a liar. Bush doesn’t have the foresight of God, therefore he’s a liar! Bush isn’t a liberal, therefore he’s a liar! That’s essentially the rant of the left.
Comment by Darthmeister — December 14, 2005 @ 3:54 pm
Let me guess, you don’t plan to see “Brokeback?” I saw media coverage that said the “romantic scenes” are going to be pretty cutting edge. Eeewwww!
Comment by Shelly — December 14, 2005 @ 4:05 pm
Not on my “top ten movies I want to see” list, Shelly!
Good morning, er… AFTERNOON all! It’s been a busy day. Scott, you did it again. You so cleverly bring out the idiocy of the left. It’s such a gift - not that you expose their idiocy, but that you do it in a clever way.
Comment by NY_Joe — December 14, 2005 @ 4:12 pm
Darthmeister: Come on! I knew that Ted came from a big family, but nine whales off Cape Cod? Just the thought of that one frolicking at Hyanis is enough to conjure a reprise of last winter’s tsunami. Kerry taming the waves while he windsails amidst those 24 dolphins probably has endangered the oceans with the rising temperatures of his bloviating (with gravitas, of course!)
Comment by onlineanalyst — December 14, 2005 @ 4:26 pm
It’s not global warming, sea level rises everytime a Kennedy takes a dip off Cape Cod.
Comment by BienHoaBaby — December 14, 2005 @ 4:45 pm
…or drives off a bridge..
Comment by red satellites — December 14, 2005 @ 4:49 pm
Ted Kennedy in a swimsuit. At the risk of repeating myself, Eeewww. At this rate I’m not going to be able to eat dinner.
Comment by Shelly — December 14, 2005 @ 4:49 pm
The New York Times should be bubble wrapped and sent packing for running an ad by this lunatic fringe posing as the voice of the mainstream. Look at the cast of characters and their curriculum vitae, and be very afraid for our American way of life. The threat to our nation comes from within. The fellow travelers and fifth columnists are gathering the naive to their black hearts.
Comment by onlineanalyst — December 14, 2005 @ 5:12 pm
That was enlightening. We’re denying women all around the world the right to birth control? Who knew?
Comment by Shelly — December 14, 2005 @ 5:29 pm
Darthmeister:
Show me a cowboy who rides side-saddle…
And I’ll show you a gay ranchero!
You expected the avant garde critics to pan “Brokeback”? Not in their morally inverted universe located somewhere Beyond the Blue Horizon.
Let ‘em run off at the mouth. Except for the denizens of the Lambda/GLAAD axis, I bet there’s no market for such an obsequious piece of trash. Count on the public to stay away in droves…
…bigger than Bubble-Up™
Comment by The Great Santini — December 14, 2005 @ 5:55 pm
onlineanalyst,
You got it!!! But alas, Orcaquiddick Kennedyisiss was not among the nine!
Comment by Darthmeister — December 14, 2005 @ 6:15 pm
Yes, the “critics” are all excited about “BendOver…er, Brokeback Mountain,” as we all knew they would be. Funny, but true aside:
My father loves westerns. He grew up watching Hopalong Cassidy, Roy Rogers, the Lone Ranger, etc. He loves John Wayne and Clint Eastwood westerns. The other day, he heard about a new “western” film that he might want to see. I had to “break it” to him that he sure as heck wouldn’t want to go see this one…as it is about a relationship between two GAY cowboys! Of course, he immediately changed his mind about seeing it, at that point. I hated to “burst his bubble,” but I can’t imagine what my dad would have done if he had actually PAID money to go sit in a theater for THAT garbage!
Comment by da Bunny — December 14, 2005 @ 6:17 pm
“Brokeback ” even got a 5 day plug in the comics. BoonDocks pandered for the movie. The comic strip is supposedly created by a black man, but it is very racist IMHO. He doesn’t like white people but seems to hold black people in contempt.
Comment by prettyold — December 14, 2005 @ 6:36 pm
Driveby-bystander,
The reason Pol Pot succeeded with his actions might (I say, might) have had something to do with public-will-sapping, leftist, anti-war activists and their assistants in the media.
Speaking of being on one side of the bubble or the other…
Comment by Beerme — December 14, 2005 @ 6:38 pm
boberin ,I was lucky enough to have a Great- Grandmother who lived until I was 20 years old . One of her sayings was ,”Sometimes it is really hard to get these young’ns up Fool’s Hill,but once you get them there they are fine.” I’ll pray that your daughter is just having a little problem getting up Fool’s Hill and that she will learn from this .Remember, as long as there’s life ,there’s hope.I’m happy to hear that you are sticking by her. I’ve said before, I am so glad I am not a teenager now.Good luck to all of you.
Comment by prettyold — December 14, 2005 @ 6:45 pm
bystander is not even trying to compare Apples and Oranges ,he is trying to compare Apples and Baseballs.
Comment by prettyold — December 14, 2005 @ 6:47 pm
Please someone explain the “Real Estate Bubble” We bought our house in 1963 for $18,000 . we haven’t tried to sell it but our tax assessment says it is worth about $130,000 now. So if the bubble bursts, isn’t our house going to be worth anything?Aren’t people still going to need houses to live in ? Are they all going to move to Trailer Parks or apartments? So ,the bubble bursts and we have millions of empty houses sitting around rotting? Or is this only going to affect anyone folks who buy and sell real estate as a way to get rich, well, unless you have to sell your home for some reason.Do I have it all wrong?
Comment by prettyold — December 14, 2005 @ 6:59 pm
Links and Minifeatures 12 14 Wednesday
Indepundit has a good article about why he’s opposing the “Cut and run before we win” crowd. I support him fully.
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Trackback by Searchlight Crusade — December 14, 2005 @ 7:03 pm
Ya gotta love this CNN interview:
DON KING; I love George Walker Bush because I think he’s a revolutionary. He’s a president that comes in with conclusiveness. What they’re doing in tomorrow in Iraq is a demonstration of that for the vote for democracy. The fundamental process of democracy is freedom of speech, law and order, being able to have freedom, working with people and working and governing yourselves. George Bush is that. He included in…
BLITZER: Do you have any regrets supporting him? Take a look at that picture when you and I were there at the diner last year. Do you have any regrets supporting him as enthusiastically as you did?
KING: No, I don’t. In fact, I want to support him more now because it seems like everybody is punching him. You know what I mean? But he’s fighting back and he’s throwing great combinations. And I think he’s the guy that is really a revolutionary president.
I think he’s a president that cares about the people he represents, but doesn’t compromise himself to the extent that he acquiesce and accommodate. He goes out there and says like it is, and tries to make things better. Inclusiveness, education, is fighting for that.
These are the things that many guys that don’t fight for — George Walker Bush is a tremendous advocate to America, a great president for the great American people, and he’s decisive. He’s doesn’t equivocate.
Comment by Darthmeister — December 14, 2005 @ 8:05 pm
They must have used one of those auto-voice transcribers. I merely cut-and-pasted the interview.
Comment by Darthmeister — December 14, 2005 @ 8:07 pm
Slaughter is slaughter prettyold whether you are an apple, a baseball, a scrappler, or maybe even a fruitfly.
More then likely our intereference in another countries affairs is dependent upon what the country has to offer to the economic interests of our global corporations, who incidentally possess no loyalty to any one country.
For anyone to truly believe we invaded Iraq because of WMDs or Saddam is patently ridiculous and unrealistic. It also has no bearing on whether our current President is a Republican or a Democrat.
Please recall that Rumsfeld and Saddam at one point enjoyed a pretty cosy relationship.
We have a long history of backing dictators whom we later turn against for one reason or another.
The political reasons for many of our military adventures are thrown out to be consumed by our largely disinterested public are just so much bull dung !
Comment by bystander — December 14, 2005 @ 8:41 pm
Greetings! When are people going to quit using “Iraq” and “WMD” in the same sentence. When you use the “bad intel” argument you are simply playing into the Dem’s hand.
The truth is that there are alot more reasons for going into Iraq than the existence of WMD. For thirty years American presidents have been signing meaningless treaties hoping to turn the Middle East into a place where peace and freedom can prosper, and for thirty years (going back to the worthless Carter accords) the situation has done nothing but get worse.
Before Iraq/Afghanistan, we had four or five Middle Eastern countries who were encouraging terrorism and trying to get their hands on nuclear weapons. This was never going to end by the signing of some declaration. Finally, an American president saw the light and decided to quit handholding and cajoling these backstabbing lying bunch of psuedo-religious murderers. Trying to reason with them and trying to use some sort of legalistic logic with them (we found this so you must be doing that) simply encourages them to play more games, eventually in a more sophisticated fashion.
Such games will only end when a nuclear weapon goes off in a major city and then all the newspapers would rush to say “well, there’s no proof that the bomb came from Iran, or North Korea” or “We couldn’t find any fingerprints that prove conclusively…so let’s play some more games.”
Well, if it looks like a big steaming pile of camel dung, and smells like one, then that’s how it needs to be treated. If you harbor terrorists, then you’re going to become yesterday’s dictator. Now we’ve got their attention and real change is in the works. Iraq was exactly the right decision to make. With US troops in the region, Iran may simply fall from within. Libya has given up. Afghanistan (can you say 100 nukes?) is on our side, in fact an intelligence expert at Bookpeople told a small crowd that there are US troops in Afghanistan helping to protect those nukes.
This is a global war on nuclear terrorism. The lawyer-brained moonbats who can’t understand this need to put there heads back in the sand and shut up.
Comment by TouchyFeely — December 14, 2005 @ 8:49 pm
TouchFeely,
I can’t tell you how many times we’ve all posted the other reasons America and its coalition partners opened a new front on the war on terror in Iraq. We also made the point the attempt to remove Saddam from power was called “Operation Iraqi Freedom” and not “Operation Iraqi WMD”.
Once again I’m going to post the website for the 2002 Joint Congressional Resolution for the Use of American Forces in Iraq. Of course the left merely rationalizes it away.
I myself came up with seven other reasons on this site that were being debated for going into Iraq, including Saddam’s serial violations of the 1991 post-Desert Storm I Peace Treaty by firing upon Coalition aircraft in the No Fly Zone.
Comment by Darthmeister — December 14, 2005 @ 9:09 pm
“Lawyer-brained moonbats”
Good, accurate description, TouchyFeely.
Comment by da Bunny — December 14, 2005 @ 9:19 pm
I meant to say “Pakistan - can you say 100 nukes”.
I also meant to say that when you harbor a terrorist, you free him to get his hands on a nuke. There’s nukes all over the world. I’m guessing at least 100,000 of them. They can be carried on barges into ports, or fired from portable missile launchers. If one ever goes off, it won’t matter where it came from - it will be the same old plausible deniability scenario. What will matter is who were the terrorists, and who harbored them. These countries need to be taught some lessons before it happens, not after. And I think that is exactly what Bush and Cheney are thinking. Democrats need to support this logic and our country.
PS Boberin - I hate to say it, but make sure you’ve got a really good lawyer. He’ll be expensive, but in the American legal system, common sense has nothing to do with anything. It’s whoever has the smartest lawyer. Get a second opinion if you have to.
Comment by TouchyFeely — December 14, 2005 @ 9:40 pm
Superb points, TouchyFeely. Like most of us here, you recognize and name the bigger issues at stake in Iraq and its former position vis a vis fomenting and financing instability in the ME under Saddam’s regime AND its current role in establishing a model for peace, freedom, productivity, and free-trade prosperity for its neighbors.
Bystander sees corporations as the bugaboo behind international power-brokering and geo-political decisions/shifts. I find it odd that the international monetary broker George Soros is the financier behind the antiwar movement, particularly that of MoveOn.org. It’s certainly not altruism behind his manipulations. What profit does he intend to make on his investment in the collapse of the nascent democracy in Iraq? Is he the real aspirant to the title King George?
Our “”interference”, as bystander calls it, allows for a free people to live in a harmony that they determine via their ballot box. No state nor dictator nor ruling oligarchy has the right to use its nation’s wealth to crush its citizens nor blackmail nternational “cooperation” in order to serve the few mighty masters. Nor should spirit-sapping Communism/socialism schemes nor destructive IslamoNazism level its individuals into becoming ciphers.
The only “imperialist” regimes that history reveals to have diminished the worth of individuals through worldwide ambitions are Naziism, Communism, and IslamoNazism. All demand(ed) obeisance to a Master Race.
Comment by onlineanalyst — December 14, 2005 @ 9:48 pm
Whatever happened to those bubbly sink cleaner dwarfs from the 50’s that rode around on sponges?
Ajax cleanser?
Comment by Ms RightWing, Ink — December 14, 2005 @ 9:50 pm
“When are people going to quit using “Iraq” and “WMD” in the same sentence.”
When they stop using Nazi and Japs when referring to WW II, or Gooks when referring to the Vietnam Expedition, or Ragheads when referring to Muslim Terrorists, etc., etc.
Comment by bystander — December 14, 2005 @ 9:56 pm
Do you mean: Use Ajax, the foaming cleanser/
Floats the dirt/Right down the drain.
Buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-boom!
I don’t know about those little fellers, but its looks as if the topic has whirled right back to Bubba or Bubberin. Take your pick!
Comment by onlineanalyst — December 14, 2005 @ 9:56 pm
Well,Golly gee Whiz fuzz,How many Lefty Liberal Democrat moonbats have I seen hugging and Kissing Fidel Castro . The government of this country was very friendly with Fidel’s brother Raul while he was in the mountains “fighting for freedom” . We helped them quite a lot to get rid of Batista. Then all of a succen here comes Fidel announcing “I am a Communist, I am taking for the state all things American. You will be imprisoned if you stay ,Yankee.”
When there is contact between the US government and another country ,we have to deal with who is there . Many of these dictators are not as bad at the beginning as they become later. Certainly Saddam grew worse as he gained power. Power Corrupts. That is one of the reasons our Presidents can only 2 terms. I only wish Congress had the same limits.
Comment by prettyold — December 14, 2005 @ 9:56 pm
all of a sudden
Comment by prettyold — December 14, 2005 @ 9:58 pm
I imagine that bystander meant “country’s” intsead of “countries,” and “cozy” for “cosy.” Other than that, I’m still perplexed by the slaughter and interference comparisons. Terroristst continue slaughtering innocient people, and Iraqi’s have asked Americans to stay and provide for their security. Your point?
Comment by Shelly — December 14, 2005 @ 10:07 pm
Anyone notice how the MSM has suddenly warmed to the Iraqi election? Frightening isn’t it?..If this goes right…I hope CNN and the rest of those cretins choke on it.
Comment by red satellites — December 14, 2005 @ 10:10 pm
OffT,About Christmas. OK let’s let the stores have their way. No Christmas .No Christmas trees , No Christmas decorations, No Christmas Music , No Christmas presents. Now for all you Holiday stores out there ,your biggest season just went down the drain. If you are not going to let me say Christmas, have Christmas as I want to ,then I am just going to drop the whole commercial part of it and go to church. So I am not going to spend any money for Holiday anything. No Christmas Cards , No Christmas stamps. Think the Post office will really like that? Think the atheists and agnostics who own businesses and stock in stores are going to like it. No Christmas parties? Think the Restaurants and Bars are going to like that? I don’t think Jewish people generally go out for Hannakah.How about the folks who grow Christmas trees. I think the ACLU had better think this through a little better. I know they want to ddestroy the American way of life ,but I don’t think they really want to destroy American businesses especially the ones who give all those nice big donations to the ACLU
Comment by prettyold — December 14, 2005 @ 10:15 pm
Oh BTW, My finger has turned purple for voting so often for Scrappleface.Just in time!!
Comment by prettyold — December 14, 2005 @ 10:17 pm
“Many of these dictators are not as bad at the beginning as they become later.”
Gee, I don’t know, Saddam started off by killing quite a few members of his Baath Party at the infamous Party Meeting he held right after becoming President. How can you get any worse then by, in effect, shooting a large number of your own family, so to speak ?
Comment by bystander — December 14, 2005 @ 10:21 pm
onlineanalyst
I don’t know what everyone else is yammering about. As usual, I’m just marching to my own drumbeat.
Comment by Ms RightWing, Ink — December 14, 2005 @ 10:21 pm
Then again, we may “interfere” when other countries that have determined that we are the enemy “interfere” to disturb an always-fragile balance of power or threaten our national security. The players are always changing. Thus, we keep a watchful eye out for the type of trading taking place in North Korea, China, Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, etc. and ask what is being brokered? Why? Who profits? How? How does this shift affect our own security or economy?
Then again, some people dreaming their CommonDreams in a bubble always assume that we are the enemy.
Comment by onlineanalyst — December 14, 2005 @ 10:24 pm
Oh, Ms.RW, we’re just back to that old refrain of “Bubble, bubble, oil (er, boil) and trouble”. You know the (ahem) drill: No blood for oil and Halliburton made me sell my soul for world domination. Ho, hum…nothing more here to offer the innocent “bystander”.
Comment by onlineanalyst — December 14, 2005 @ 10:35 pm
An interesting experiment in the blogosphere. Catch it at www.pajamasmedia.com……….
Iraq the Model
From Omar of Iraq the Model: If everything goes as planned for tomorrow, Pajamas Media and ITM will be hosting extensive coverage of the parliamentary elections in Iraq. Eight correspondents based in eight different Iraqi provinces will be submitting several waves of election updates and photos exclusive to Pajamas Media. Mohammed and I will also be doing our usual reporting tomorrow and this large amount of reports will be cross-posted on ITM and Pajamas. The eight provinces are: Erbil, Kirkuk, Mosul, Babil, Najaf, Kerbala, Samawa, Basra as well as Baghdad of course. The correspondents’ names will be hidden and only initials will be used for reasons concerning their personal safety. Journalists and reporters in Iraq had been targeted by the terrorists many times and we have granted our correspondents’ requests to refer to them by initials only.
Stay tuned!
Comment by Jackie — December 15, 2005 @ 12:13 am
Finally a President has faced the fact that we can’t just bully our way around the Middle East, but that if you want to play fair, the only way to ensure an oil supply is through encouraging democracy in the middle east. What a great solution! Money, democracy for them. Life sustaining oil for us. Why are the dems so against it? Because they will let America pay any price, including the destruction of one of our cities, if it will return them to power.
As far as our overcomercialized economy goes, the more ads I see, the less money I spend. Someday these pinheads in marketing will be forced to admit that people are turning off their TVs in record numbers because they’re tired of excessive advertising.
I heard one of the networks is now advertising a morning news program with fewer commercials. That’s a big breakthrough. Now if they can just find something fresh to talk about. Perhaps they’ll read aloud from this blog. Naw!
Comment by TouchyFeely — December 15, 2005 @ 12:20 am
hahahaha…..I think we should be allowed to force Ted Kennedy and Howard Dean to read aloud from this blog……….very slowly and clearly……………well, I can dream , can’t I ?
Comment by Jackie — December 15, 2005 @ 12:53 am
It’s funny to think of the President talking coherently for that many sentences in a row. And he doesn’t repeat himself at all! Well, barely.
Comment by landcrab — December 15, 2005 @ 12:59 am
Is it a White Housing Bubble? Will it burst?
Comment by Jericho — December 15, 2005 @ 1:17 am
With his Will, Son of George HW Bush may make the world safe through Democracy. Or might we see some other outcome. Pat Buchanan has a take on that.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47899
Comment by Jericho — December 15, 2005 @ 1:20 am
Jericho - interesting read. Ideally, democracy will stamp out terrorism. Practically speaking, a solid US force stationed in Iraq will help to keep these overcompensated escapees from the towelhead funny farm in their place and away from nuclear weapons. In either case, there is a significantly reduced likelihood that there’ll be another 9-11. The key is having a leader who isn’t afraid to act. This would not be Clinton, for example, who was more interested in being toasted by a corrupt UN or irrelevant French dictator, or being finished off by a chunky intern, then he cared about the safety of Americans.
Comment by TouchyFeely — December 15, 2005 @ 2:45 am
Jericho - interesting read. Ideally, democracy will stamp out terrorism. Practically speaking, a solid US force stationed in Iraq will help to keep these overcompensated escapees from the towelhead funny farm in their place and away from nuclear weapons. In either case, there is a significantly reduced likelihood that there’ll be another 9-11. The key is having a leader who isn’t afraid to act. This would not be Clinton, for example, who was more interested in being toasted by a corrupt UN or irrelevant French dictator, or being finished off by a chunky intern, then he cared about the safety of Americans.
Comment by TouchyFeely — December 15, 2005 @ 2:45 am
I don’t think being in a bubble is a bad thing. In the late 1970’s, John Travolta was in a bubble, and it seems to have helped his career!
Then there was that “bubble boy” on Seinfeld, that got into it with George at the hospital,——————-
Oh wait, that didn’t turn out too good for him, did it?
Well, the Seinfeld series did OK, so I guess he helped them a little.
How about that new singer Michael Bubble’? He seems to be doing OK.
After that last sentence, I guess it is time for bed!
Comment by R.A.M. — December 15, 2005 @ 3:52 am
morning gang
pretty old, thanks, I too hope this is a speed bump, she is mostly a very smart, pretty and decent person with real ambitions. I’m hoping that this is a learning experience
touchyfeely, well, if price is any indication we hired a pretty good lawyer. I did instruct him not to get her “off” because there would be no lesson there. unfortunately he could pretty much guarantee that she won’t get “off entirely even if F. Lee Bailey were her councel.
Comment by boberin — December 15, 2005 @ 7:41 am
Good morning and happy Iraqi election day! Check this out:
http://www.purplefingerforfreedom.org/Photos.html
Comment by Shelly — December 15, 2005 @ 8:05 am
Great article Scott. Can’t think of anything funny about bubbles this morning. I’m a little foggy from a head cold. Will just say thanks for your hard work and brilliant wit. You say what I feel… but far better! Regards…
Comment by Hawkeye — December 15, 2005 @ 8:17 am
hawkeye, sounds like you need alka seltzer™
a very lame attempt at a bubble joke, carry on!
Comment by boberin — December 15, 2005 @ 8:36 am
Mornin’ Scrapplers!
A sucessful Iraqi election…..despite Pelosi, Reid, Kennedy…and Levin….and 90 percent of the MSM.
All is RIGHT with the world.
Comment by red satellites — December 15, 2005 @ 9:15 am
Thanks for the link, Shelly! Brings tears to the eye!
Comment by upnorthlurkin — December 15, 2005 @ 9:19 am
Brought tears to mine as well. I can’t wait to see the pictures coming out of Iraq. After the January elections, Brit Hume put together a montage that truly made me cry. I still have it on DVR.
Comment by Shelly — December 15, 2005 @ 9:34 am
Saddam is in dire need of a bubble batth
Comment by Libby Gone — December 15, 2005 @ 9:59 am
He’s a Baathist….that shouldn’t be a problem.
Comment by red satellites — December 15, 2005 @ 10:04 am
red….ouch!
Comment by boberin — December 15, 2005 @ 10:32 am
Rushing through the Op-Ed’s of the Rubber Capitol News Blahpaper. Anyone proclaiming great victory in Iraq
(Sounds of silence) nope
Comment by Ms RightWing, Ink — December 15, 2005 @ 10:34 am
NOT TODAY
Lets step back and look at the big picture, Iraq has just become a democracy, yes liberals the election turn out is
beyond expectations in fact they Iraqis went into voter overtime…
years from now this President will be seen as the great liberator, history has a way of weeding out the trivia
the only thing left will be the liberation of Iraq and the defeat of Saddam and the Taliban..
it must be so sad to be a democrat today, indeed very very sad.. pathetic gee Howard Dean no way to win
can you say l-o-s-e-r
but leave it to the liberal media oh they cant let President Bush have his day check this out
————————————
PROOF OF THE LIBERAL MEDIA BIAS
AOL - America on Line news leading story
Headline-
Independent polls show Hillary Clinton with solid approval
ratings and far ahead of the potential Republican competition.
AOL asked whats your opinion -Total Votes: 139,382
1. Has your opinion of Hillary Clinton changed in the last six years?
No, I still don’t like her 48%
Yes, I like her more 22%
Yes, I dislike her more 18%
No, I still like her 12%
2. Would you vote for Hillary Clinton for president?
No 68%
Yes 32%
The headline was -
“Independent polls show Hillary Clinton with solid approval ratings and far ahead of the potential Republican competition.”
Comment by INJUSTICE PREVAILS — December 15, 2005 @ 10:56 am
Goodmorning Scrapplers ! ……………….Shelly, It’s my pleasure to be the daily reminder, since Scott Ott’s Nott
I haven’t visited a blog in the contending that hasn’t been self promoting, except for right here. This is the last day to vote. Thanks all for the great links. It certainly is an occasion to celebrate.
Comment by Jackie — December 15, 2005 @ 11:02 am
http://weblogawards.org/2005/12/best_humorcomics_blog.php…………….and for your voting convenience, the link above.
Comment by Jackie — December 15, 2005 @ 11:04 am
Have you fellow scrapplers notice this latest moonbattery put out by the radical left? It claims the reason conservatives are “homophobic” (I guess opposing crime makes us “criminalphobic” and opposing lying makes us “liarphobic”) is because deep within each of us is some kind of homosexual tendency we’re trying to repress … hence we don’t want to trigger that latent homosexuality by being around bona fide homosexuals.
Of course we’re dealing with simply another left-wing sophomorism of ad hominem name calling which is simply trying to provoke us. But it did get me thinking about something. If what they say is true, then their own phobia concerning conservatism/conservatives means that liberals themselves are in self-denial since there is a conservative within them crying to express itself … and then subsequently become a log cabin homosexual! Buwhahahahahahahaha!
Liberals are such morons by shooting themselves in the foot like this with such stupid psycho-babble. I’ve busted a few with this tact on the Yahoo news comment lines. They didn’t appreciate my logic.
Comment by Darthmeister — December 15, 2005 @ 11:09 am
Great news and coverage of the Iraqi elections at IraqTheModel. It looks like liberal prayers to their navels went unanswered and the elections were an unqualified success.
Comment by Darthmeister — December 15, 2005 @ 11:12 am
Sorry, here’s the proper hyperlink.
Comment by Darthmeister — December 15, 2005 @ 11:15 am
Hank, actually I see logic in the homosexuality argument and feel that yours about being afraid of becoming a conservative to be equally compelling.
I think both theorys are correct, theirs and yours
Comment by boberin — December 15, 2005 @ 11:25 am
Darth,
You are exactly right…the psychobabble the left brought on by Tookie’s execution is a prime example. A law professor floated the idea, that we all have ‘cognitive bias’ when we sit on a jury. Not plain old card carrying bias…but latent bias that is in our subconcious. And that Tookie was a victim of a jury with cognitive bias…NOT a victim of the evidence the killed 4 people in cold blood or cofounded a brutal gang that will outlive us all.
Comment by red satellites — December 15, 2005 @ 11:30 am
Full moon today, but it just passed.
Moonbats now waning
Comment by tomg — December 15, 2005 @ 11:32 am
From the Associated Press:
“Iraqis voted in a historic parliamentary election Thursday, with strong turnout reported in Sunni Arab areas and even a shortage of ballots in some precincts. Several explosions rocked Baghdad throughout the day, but the level of violence was low. The heavy participation by the Sunnis, who had shunned balloting last January, bolstered U.S. hopes of calming the insurgency enough to begin withdrawing its troops next year.”
Amen to that. Nuf’ said.
Comment by Jersey Guy — December 15, 2005 @ 11:33 am
Particing a little Orwellian double-think, eh boberin? Must be nice to have such “intellectual” flexibility. The fact of the matter is both theories are wrong because they are too stupid to be seriously contemplated by people with just a smidgeon of common sense. IT’S PSYCHO-BABBLE!
Comment by Darthmeister — December 15, 2005 @ 11:34 am
I agree, Darthmeister. I have heard that theory about being homophobic and it is pure bunk. Listen, as a Christian, I believe and follow the word of God to the best of my ability. I use it to find answers to life’s issues and problems. The answers are in there. The word tells us that God hates homosexuality, but loves the homosexual. We are to do the same. Why? Because, when you dig down to the root cause of it, homosexuality is the ultimate reblellion against God. The Bible tells us that God created woman for man, since man was alone and needed a mate. What homosexuality is saying is “God, I do not care what your plan is, I am finding my own mate”. So be it. Rebell against God. But don’t try to make yourselves feel better about it by saying everyone is a homo deep down inside. That is just a flat out lie meant to make them seem “normal”.
Comment by NY_Joe — December 15, 2005 @ 11:53 am
Darthmeister - can’t you be reasonable and/or accepting with your own kind, i.e., boberin, a fellow scrappler ?
Are you so narrow minded that you are unable to accept anyone differing from your views ?
Others have a right to their own opinion without being called ’stupid’ and being otherwise belittled.
Comment by bystander — December 15, 2005 @ 11:54 am
I don’t think he was calling Boberin stupid; he was calling the theory stupid.
Comment by NY_Joe — December 15, 2005 @ 12:06 pm
hank and i go back a ways, plain talk doesn’t phase me be it me or the theory that’s stupid, it’s all good
thanks for the defense, can always use it but, like i say, no harm no foul
stlll think both theorys are very correct. I’s the old “methinks thou doest protest too much syndrome”
I have surely obseverved that those sure of their position will not fight nearly as hard or as loudly as those that are on the fence about something.
If hank has observed otherwise, i’m surprised
Comment by boberin — December 15, 2005 @ 12:22 pm
Thank you to the Darthmeister for the link to the amazing and inspiring IraqTheModel site.
When you read the words of the ordinary people who are breathing free air for the first time in decades, and who are thumbing their noses (with purple thumbs) at the insurgents and terrorists by coming out enmass to vote, it is truly an awesome thing to behold. The Iraqis still have a long way to go, but you get the feeling that they have the right stuff to make democracy happen. Maybe not a democracy quite like ours, but a working democracy nonetheless.
Very impressive, Iraq! Show the world how its done!
Comment by Jersey Guy — December 15, 2005 @ 12:30 pm
I think fighting has to do with conviction, Boberin, not whether you sit on the fence or not. If you feel strongly about something, you tend to defend it more agressively.
Comment by NY_Joe — December 15, 2005 @ 12:31 pm
sometimes joe but if someone were to accuse me of being a homosexual i would laugh about it and move on having been married for some 26 years, the accusation would not/could not bother me in the least. i do think that if you make the accusation to someone struggling with or actively denying the possibility or fact that they will lash out, rant, rave, scream, whine and moan that it is not true and they will not let it go, might even challenge you to a fight.
again, over this point and/or others, i have surely observed such behavior, so have all folks here
Comment by boberin — December 15, 2005 @ 12:42 pm
Oh I agree with you on that, Boberin, something so obvious that it is laughable. But I still think that someone will aggressively defend their position proportionally to the degree that it is important to them. For instance, if you told me that the San Diego Padres were going to finish last this coming season, I could not care less (apologies to SD fans). But if you told me the Mets were going to finish last, then I would come after you with all of my ammo!
Comment by NY_Joe — December 15, 2005 @ 1:08 pm
This has nothing to do with bubbles or Bush, but did you see where Cookie Tookie’ granpapa followed him to the executioner?
http://www.newsnet5.com/news/5540659/detail.html
Sadly even dead people die. Oh the humanity!
Comment by Ms RightWing, Ink — December 15, 2005 @ 1:17 pm
NatWest Bank in England is reportedly removing clocks from some of its branches so customers stuck in line cannot tell how long the wait is. Upon hearing this, President Bush has ordered all US troops in Iraq to turn in their watches.
Comment by J. Cougar Melancholy — December 15, 2005 @ 1:18 pm
gotcha joe
lifelong Eagles and Phillies fan here, tell a Philadelphian that they are going to come in last and, more likely than not, we will shrug and agree.
jcm, funny!
Comment by boberin — December 15, 2005 @ 1:30 pm
Thanx boberin, uh…you wouldn’t want to catch “Brokeback Mountain” with me this weekend, would ya?
Comment by J. Cougar Melancholy — December 15, 2005 @ 1:38 pm
jcm, wouldn’t be my first choice but, what the heck! let’s go.
each year my wife and I go to one of the 10 best bed and breakfasts on the county. it’s in New Hope Pa, a rather gay capitol and we stay with 2 gay men and have an exclusive entrance to the gay club that adjoint the property. last year we went swimming in the club pool, made several folks there uncomfortable with out hetro behavior, ate in the resteraunt (great food) with another straight couple, had a lovely time as always.
doubtful that the movie will bother me too much
Comment by boberin — December 15, 2005 @ 1:57 pm
Nice try, byebyestander.
I wasn’t calling boberin stupid but rather the “theory” he was proposing stupid. Besides, conservatives (and I’m not calling boberin a conservative either…I’m not that STUPID!) can and do disagree. We may disagree in opinion as we agree in principle … that principle being liberal DemDonks ARE MORONS! Buwhahahahaha!
But once some of those on the left regain their last shreds of dignity and sanity, I may actually find myself agreeing with them on certain issues. I once was a Democrat myself, but the party left me about 33 years ago.
Comment by Darthmeister — December 15, 2005 @ 2:31 pm
hank, after the debates you and i have had it will take more than bystanders remark to get under my skin, go ahead, call me stupid although i freely acknowledge that you probably never have…at least not out loud
Comment by boberin — December 15, 2005 @ 3:06 pm
boberin, we’re all stupid…it’s just that some are more stupid than others. Buwhahahahahahaha!
I’m quite comfortable with my heterosexuality, thank you very much. 28 years of marriage, three strapping he-man boys to my and my wife’s credit, I love working on cars and racing them, I love hunting if I have the time, fishing on occasion as a stress breaker, and I enjoy firearms and every last pin, spring, and trigger assembly in them. Nope, not a repressed homosexual gene in my body.
I don’t care if I sit next to homosexual or in a social situation with a homosexual just so long they keep their love lives in their closets at home. I don’t want to hear about it. I resent the fact that courts want to drag the rest of us into some sodomites’ bedroom and force us to applaud.
Homosexuals have my sympathies, pity and prayers but they’ll never get my approval unless they are recovering homosexuals. I have absolutely no use for militant, self-righteous homosexuals who represent the most basest and depravest rebellion against God and the natural order. Sorry, that’s just how I’m wired.
Comment by Darthmeister — December 15, 2005 @ 7:56 pm
The Associated Press
Gay advocates plan to post names of anti-gay marriage petition signers
September 8, 2005
BOSTON -Two gay activists are promising to post on the Internet the names and addresses of anyone who signs a petition that could lead to a statewide ban on gay marriage.
The move by Thomas Lang and Alexander Westerhoff, one of the first gay couples married in the state, came after state Attorney General Thomas Reilly on Wednesday certified a ballot question that bans gay marriage and civil unions.
Now, the question’s supporters must collect 65,825 signatures from registered voters, and approval from 25 percent of state lawmakers to get the question on the 2008 ballot.
Lang, 42, said the name, street address, hometown and ZIP code of everyone who signs the petition will be posted on the Web site KnowThyNeighbor.org.
“Everyone’s scrambling to know who in their town would sign this,” Lang told the Boston Herald. “And this Web site will give gay people the tools to know, to defend themselves and their families, to let them go neighbor-to-neighbor and say, ‘I don’t appreciate your signing this.’”
“I’m going to be aggressive personally,” he said. “I want to know that the people I do business with are not against (gay marriage). This is going to be won by economics.”
Gay marriage opponent Kristian Mineau, president of the Massachusetts Family Institute, said the Web site is “intimidation by no other name.”
Mineau is listed on the site, along with the first 30 people to sign the petition, including former Boston mayor Ray Flynn.
Westerhoff already introduced himself to one of the first petition signers, Madelyn Shields of Beverly. Shields told the Herald she found the meeting “a bit odd,” but described Westerhoff as gracious. She said she hopes other exchanges between gay marriage advocates and petition signers are as gracious.
“I have a number of gay friends and I treat people the same regardless, but that does not change my position of what I believe marriage is,”
Comment by Jackie — December 16, 2005 @ 11:36 am
George Bubleya Bush, my main Pres.!!
Comment by Jackie — December 16, 2005 @ 6:13 pm
George Double Bubblya’ Bush !!
Comment by Jackie — December 16, 2005 @ 7:35 pm