Maybe they get the 72 Virginians.

or the 72 year old Virgin.

Oh I am in hysterics. I can see the training camp now:

Instructor: Okay people, gather round (adjusting explosive devices around and on his body)I am only going to do this once!

In an earlier announcement Pres. hassle arafattie announced that "the palistinian state has granted them a dispensation from paying taxes for this act of incredible stupid heroism."

He also recommended future planners to dress themselves in an abundance of towels (like he has on his head) to make the cleanup on these acts somewhat easier.

The towels to be used should be purchased at the "Yassie Wassie Towel Factory" and should carrie the official presidential markers.

"Work related" indeed. I guess that illustrates the occupation of some Muslims.

It reads like a "Seinfeld" episode.

"The Soup Mullah"

"You no kill Jews?!?" "No virgins for you!"

Actually, it's the same 72 virgins each time. Since the "martyrs" strap the explosives around their middles they're not much of a threat to any virgins they neet afterwards. You'd think the kids would have figured that one out by now.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,980472,00.html

Hey frenchfry!

Nothing worse than premature detonation, right?

Makes all the virgins point and laugh!

the last work-related accident made willy wonka really upset

Man, 0 days without a work-related accident! I can't wait to see what happens to THEIR workers comp rates!

Frenchman (oxymoron?),

BBC is not a credible news service. Why donít you just post some opinions from Jim Kerry or Jane Fonda? Maybe the countries that are afraid of us NEED to be afraid of us. Maybe theyíll leave us alone because they know if they donít weíll come kick their a$$. Put another way, whoís afraid of France? Good luck with all of your Muslims, you should hope France doesnít have any those extremists. I am sincere when I say good luck, I think France is a pathetic and worthless country but I donít wish terrorist attacks on you.

With Franceís appeasing policies, you are the perfect terrorist target. FYI ñ terrorists attack the weak. Thatís why they are terrorists and not armies. They attack women and children, not other armies. They have no morals, no ethics, and no respect for any life not even the French.

I love all the other posts though - I got a laugh.

Talk about all work and no play. Terrorists dying in vain could be my favorite thing. Would they have worked on those bombs knowing that Ala does not reward negative spirited cowardly murderous primitive animals? If your God tells you to murder others in his name then you are not ìtalkingî to God (or Ala).

I think they do get the 72 virgins, and lots of bottles of wine. The catch is the bottles have holes in them, and the virgins don't.

They DO get the 72 Virgins, BUT sadly, (for them), a 'Very Important' body part was blown off, ALL of them, in the blast!

MUH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

"terrorists attack the weak."
are you trying to explain us that Bush is a terrorist?

Max (imum idiocy) strikes again.

When you meet up with your communist buddies later you can tell them from me that: George W. Bush defending our nation during a time of war (the war on terrorism) does not make him a terrorist.

As far as Iraq being weak, they WERE the biggest bully in the Middle East. Max - tell me how many Middle East countries came in to help Kuwait against Iraq 12 years ago before we got there?

You know Max, I re-read your last post as sarcasm and actually laughed.

>>>"terrorists attack the weak."

Posted by: Max on June 23, 2003 08:26 PM

If this was true Max, terrorists would be attacking france 24/7!

Susan: this original "terrorists attack the weak" comment was made by Ynot.
are you saying that Ynot talks bullsh*t ?
you're not the first to have noticed that.

actually the US state department definition of terrorism is
"The term "terrorism" means premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant (1) targets by subnational groups or clandestine agents, usually intended to influence an audience. "
http://www.usis.usemb.se/terror/rpt1999/intro.html
this is well rigged: "subnational groups" is included to ensure the US itself, as a nation, cannot be regarded as terrorist even when it attacks civilian targets like TV stations. "or clandestine" is included so that when a US military target is attacked eg the USS Cole this can still be regarded as a terrorist attack.

WARNING!!!WARNING!!!...The National Lampoon has issued a warning that Gay Muslims are now being recruited as suicide bombers. They can pack twelve pounds of C4 in their....Where nobody else can. The israeli's are forced to institute the old military physical practice of bend over and spread them. The give away is the detonator cord hanging out of the bombers....explosive hidey hole (so to speak).

that old practice, eh, Eric ?

which practice is it replacing ?
forcing Palestinians to drink cleaning fluid ?

"The Israeli army has charged a female soldier with forcing a Palestinian woman at a checkpoint to drink the cleaning fluid she was carrying, a military spokesman said today"
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/06/23/1056220517970.html

or IDF savages sh*tting in photocopiers ?
http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=159923&contrassID;=2&subContrassID;=5&sbSubContrassID;=0&listSrc;=Y

Islam: Winning the hearts and minds of the world, one bomb at a time.

USAF: winning the hearts and minds of the world one hundred bombs at a time

"They've got to draw in their horns and stop their aggression, or we're going to bomb them back into the Stone Age.". Gen. Curtis LeMay

http://www.iht.com/articles/99831.html

Ross (post #6),

They take all kind of precautions, and it took 'm some time till the Israeli secret police explained to one who survived his own bomb that even those doesn't help - see:
http://israeliguy.blogspot.com/2002_05_19_israeliguy_archive.html

LN from the low lands

Ah those Palestinian Kids, they just blow up so fast!

Northpole,

Terrorists attack groups based on two things:

1)The attacked groups perceived willingness to retaliate (weakness).
2)The attacked groups amount of opposition to the terrorists.

The reason France isnít being attacked 24/7 is reason number 2. They spend a lot of time appeasing Muslims, coupled with the fact that they oppose America and Israel.

The reason we had 9/11 is Clinton did almost nothing to fight terrorists even when they kept attacking America and our interests. Osama thought he could keep attacking with impunity ñ he even said so. Since we started fighting back, there hasnít been one terrorist attack on our shores. Osama is probably too busy running and hiding.

Hey Frenchman, you know that's an opinion piece for your second posting, not a news story, right?

"They spend a lot of time appeasing Muslims..."
do you prefer killing, destroying, burning?

"..coupled with the fact that they oppose America.."
not on Israeli-Palestinian conflict. If somebody can find a good solution..

"..and Israel."
Is Sharon a good solution ?...

Was it red to positive, or black to positive?
Hmmm...let's try red.

boom

That's right, Max. Some Muslim extremists flew airliners into the WTC 'cause it was chock full of Jews. Never mind that the WTC, and New York in general are what the world think of when you say "America" (either that or Hollywood). If it had been just about Isreal, then they would have flown the jets to Jerusalem and crashed them. But no, it was about striking a blow against the "Great Satan." Not the "Great Zionist Supporters" not the "Great Jew Lovers." But the "Great Satan."
Why are we so evil in their eyes?
Envy and resentment are petty. It is easy to convince people that what they really feel is hate. Couch it in religious terms, and their pettiness becomes a virtue.

What I feel for them can't be disguised as something noble: I dispise them.

Too funny, Scott.

http://www.boycottfrance.com/history_french_anti_semitism.php

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1101030630-460210,00.html

Perhaps a good lawyer will be able to get their families a good workman's comp deal with the Saudi's.

Ynot,

not sure what your point is: I take it you're not offering a definition of terrorism, just some sort of rationale ?
your point 1) means you're saying Israel is repeatedly attacked by Pal terrorists because it is weak and doesn't retaliate ? ditto KLA terrorists attacking Serbs, IDF terrorists attacking the Pals, IRA terrorists attacking the UK etc.
point 2) here you seem to be touching on 1 reason terror attacks occur ie grievance. you're saying France isn't attacked because it doesn't make itself a target by arming the Israeli terror regime in its ethnic cleansing of the Pals, whereas the US supplies the F16s, Apaches etc that are used in indiscriminate bombardment of civilians. that may be true, actually did you know that pre 1960ish France was a major arms supplier to France.

YNOT:
"TERRORISTS ATTACK THE WEAK"??????

Do you remember september the eleventh?

Terrorists attack the ones they hate...no matter how strong they are.

And in fact there are very different kinds of terrorism, STATE TERRORISM , for instance. Are you familiar with these two words?

"State Terrorism" is a contradiction in terms.

Terrorists employ the methods they use because compared to a state they are weak.

jeez, Frenchfry, you're scrapping the bottom of the barrel.
re your boycott france article: actually the French ambassador referred to Israelis, not Jews, as those people: hardly a damning insult anyway.
France and Israel were close allies in the 1950s, France supplied Israel with huge amounts of weapons: they and the UK even launched a joint war against Egypt.
was collaboration with the Nazis worse in France than elsewhere ? do you have anything reputable to back this up ?
Does Henry Ford and Charles Lindberg, notorious Nazi-philes make the USA a nation of anti-semites ?
or does the US refusal to allow Jews asylum (under the Quota Laws) from Hitler make the USA antisemitic ?
re your Time article - did Time miss out half the article ? some french haters claim groups raise money in France that eventually goes to Hamas - no evidence offered - and France denies it: thats the story right ?

rand,
which are the distinctive methods that terrorists use that states don't ?

""State Terrorism" is a contradiction in terms"

does that mean that if the Lockerbie bomb was directly ordered by Gaddafi and the Libyan government then it wasn't a terrorist attack ?
Libya is a state albeit one we don't like.

Northpole, Max,

My computer is busy (I'm borrowing someone else's right now). But I didn't want you to think I forgot my two favorite morons (try reading my posts before you respond)- so here we go.

You're both dead wrong, and perfect liberals. My apologies for the redundancies in that last statement.

They fly passenger jets full of civilians into office buildings full of more civilians. And while the Pentagon is a legitimate military target, the passenger-filled commercial jet was not a military weapon.
They also strap explosives to themselves and enter crowded hotel dining-rooms full of civilians, or get on buses carrying school children, and blow themselves (and everyone around them) to smithereens.

Sound familiar?

If it was ordered by the Libian government, then it should properly be classed as several hundred counts of 1st degree murder.

comical dummy, Hard to feel sorry for the cleaning fluid woman, when she HAD to know this was common practice at checkpoints. Do you think people are so stupid that we don't know that palestinians 'cause' these situations to happen, so they can 'LOOK' like the victim?

Your people cry like babies when a few innocents on your side are killed, while 'ALL' you target is innocents on the Israel side. I think the only reason you cry about your, 'So-called' innocents is, they weren't allowed to take any Israeli women and children with them! Is that you Sami El Arian?

gala, Did you shorten your name from, Gay@La La Land?

SRG, I like your posts, but after weeks, (and no one has corrected you), it's Israel, NOT Isreal.

Hateful Palestinian needs to answer how long his cousins in tel-aviv would last without any more of uncle sams money.
Maybe Jonathan Pollard can lend you a few bucks since he was spying for mother Israel for profit before he got caught.
Maybe some of the Israeli arm brokers who provide the Palestinians with guns and explosives can lend ""the man of peace"" Ariel""pig porker"" Sharon the money for new ""settlements"".
We as Americans are tired of funding your genocidal regime .

Islamic Jihad and Hamas have agreed to a 3 month cease fire.
Dollars to donuts the Israeli army wipes out a hospital or an orphanage or a 5 year old sr. member of Hamas by the end of the week.
After all the country was founded by terrorists 55 years ago and is currently run by a man wanted as a war criminal in Belgium,did someone say peace?
I didnt hear it,you?

Yep, those lousy concentration camp survivors were such a bunch of terrorists. Why did the UN ever give them their own country?

H.P.,
D'oh! I abase myself. My brain wants to spell it like I pronounce it. I shall be more careful in the future.
I-S-R-A-E-L
I-S-R-A-E-L
I-S-R-A-E-L
etc., etc.

Palestinian are you from New Bedford Mass?

http://www2.bostonherald.com/news/local_regional/newb06252003.htm

>>>""the man of peace"" Ariel""pig porker"" Sharon the money for new ""settlements"".
We as Americans are tired of funding your genocidal regime .

Posted by: Mike G on June 25, 2003 11:46 AM
E-mail address says, 'Jews are the problem @aol.com

A 'racist' like you has no business calling yourself an American, and I believe I speak for most here! Not ALL, of any race is the problem! You just hate ALL Jews.

You sound like Arafat, who BTW is a little on the 'porker' side himself!

Random Guy who bombed the King David hotel?

There were so very many acts of terror commited by Israels founding fathers that it brought mother England to her knees.

As for today?
Mainland Israel is opposed to the occupation of gaza and the west bank,even Sharon said it couldnt go on.
Now look who is living in the westbank,hebron and gaza..
Imported Russian and other east European ""refusenicks"",the most radical of all the Jews from Crown Heights,Brookline and Long Island and the ""lost tribe"" from Ethiopia.
Where else can you go to get free land??
Well its not literally free as you have to run the current occupants off of it 1st but give it time.

Mike G, Mike, comical dummy?

My bet is your favorite senator is Robt Byrd (KKK), I thought he only hated blacks, but hear he hates Jews also!

Mikey, are you a 'skinhead', if so, when they shaved your head, they must have scrapped some gray matter too! HAH!

I know what you mean about Jews though, in almost every major city, through-out the World, the roving Jewish Youth Gangs, are among the most feared of any race!

DumbA$$
See what happens when you throw facts at people who support not Israel but zionist occupation.
You get called a skinhead,racist etc..
Read the post from 11:27 am and tell me what you think of it.
Here is a supporter of Israel saying its common practice to have unarmed woman drink cleaning fluid and the members of scrapple dont say a word about it but have the audacity to call me a bigot?

What did Christ say about hypocrites?

Terrorists don't attack the weak the attack those that appear strong, but that they think are really weak and will cave after an assualt or two. France is already cowering hence the lack of attacks there.

Where is the Maid of Lorraine when you need her, eeh?

Mike G - (RE:11:57 AM post) Put me down for a dozen Krispy-Kremes. The cease fires are always broken by the pals. Do you really hate Jews or do you just pretend to so you can rile up the scrapplers? If you are a Jew hater you should be ashamed!!!

Mike - I agree that the pal woman should not have been forced to drink cleaning fluid. Do you know the real history behind the pals? If you did you might not be so quick to their defense.

What does the Bible say about judging others?

Is there an Imam in the House? There is a terrible theological problem here.Please help oh great and wise Imam. Those 4 Al-aqsa martyr wannabes blew themselves all up by accident. There are questions to be answered. If they go to heaven, do they get the 72 virgins? Or only 36 since they screwed up? Or can they only sit there and watch all the other martyrs having fun? Puuleeeezz, I gots to know!

Ok rand, so you're now saying that terrorism is deliberatley killing civilians.
The US state department cleverly saying killing civlians is only terrorism when its done by a subnational group.
So you say that when the USAF and army delberately bomb TV stations eg in Baghdad and Serbia then that too is terrorism (the Serb TV station was condemned as a war crime by amnesty) and when the IDF indiscriminately bomb civilians then that too is terrorism

Hate,
"Your people cry like babies when a few innocents on your side are killed, " well that cuts both ways. Do you say "Israelis cry like babies when a few of their innocents get killed but still bombard pal civilians" ? I can see you're obviously full of hate for Pals. Are you in the IDF ? I bet when you vent your hate on innocent Pals spray gunning a crowd you'd try and claim it was an accident despite the obvious poison within you.

"Whoops...Kaboom!"

USAF is not a "subnational group" so their actions are not terrorism.
As for the Serbian TV station, and Amnesty International's labeling of it, who cares what A.I. calls it?
I call it: oops!
Collateral damage
Inadvertant weapons release/detonation
Bad targeting information

I call it: Tough s**t. Life sucks, then you get blown into a fine red mist.

they get 72 Madonna clones---"like a virgins". Well they wouldn't really be "like virgins" then. Maybe it's "Lycra Virgins"? If that's so---those bombers don't need to blow themselves up. They can just buy those lycra virgins off of Mr. Haneys truck. Well....not OFF his truck. They would be in his truck. But then his truck isn't paid for so it's not really HIS truck. And they would be in the bed of the truck. Which isn't really a bed but...What was the question?

Mr. Douglas? Do you have anything to say about this?

exactly rand,

it hypocrisy to claim murdering civilians is allowed when you're a nation but not when you're a subnational group - if its wrong it wrong no matter who does it.

And no neither TV station was accidental collateral damage - they were both deliberately targetted : the US admitted it had been deliberately targetted.

"Tough s**t. Life sucks, then you get blown into a fine red mist."
thats what you said on 912 was it ? or is it different when its the US on the sharp end of an atrocity ?

I was born,raised and educated in NYC and I am old enough to remember south manhatten before the twin towers were built.
I am somewhat familiar with the fine red mist you have mentioned as I believe my wifes 1st cousin was turned into it.
I went to over a dozen wakes and funerals after 9/11.
I am not eager to repeat and I am a firm believer that violence gets violence.
Israel has one of the finest intelligence units in the world and guess what..
They cant stop suicide bombers in a place smaller than connecticut.
The idea that the Whitehouse,Fbi,Cia,National Guard or the Marines can protect all of us is a farce.
I work part time as an ethnic food distributor,I fly over to the islands off of Mass once a month to set up our product lines in grocery stores.
I use box cutters in my line of work.
In Dec 01 during the Christmas walk in Nantucket Isle I get on a 9 seat cessna,sit in the seat next to the pilot so close our elbows are touching
I get off the plane,reach into my shirt pocket for a smoke and low and behold I have not 1 but 2 boxcutters in my shirt pocket.
I couldve taken out the Bourne or Sagamore bridges,I couldve aimed at the nuke plant in Plymouth,I couldve taken out 1 of many resorts.

Now I dont look like an Arab but neither did Johnny Taliban Walker.

Actually, it's semantics.

When your govenment authorizes the killing of someone (enemy troops, cambatants, non-combatants, or death row inmates) it isn't murder.
Murder is defined as the unlawful killing of a human being. There are refinements for premeditation and such, but that is basically it.
If your government authorizes said killing, it isn't against the laws of your country. Most likely it is murder in the target's country, but I am a U.S. citizen, and those are the laws that most concern me.
Now if some nation, or sub-national group, has through word or deed made it plain they are the enemy of my country, then I do not regret nor begrudge violence done to them.
I regret the inadvertent deaths and injury to civilians, but no matter how accurate the bomb is, the shrapnel is indiscriminant.
Vital infrastructure and communication facilities are legitimate military targets. If they are staffed by civilians at the time of the attack...like I said before: tough s**t.

Do I want us to go around blowing up stuff and killing people? No.

I want every government and political group and every single person around the planet to know two things: 1) If you want to be our friend, then we are the best friend you could have. If you are loyal to us, we'll be loyal to you. (our various presidents will have to work on that, we've let people down before) 2) If you want to be our enemy, then we are the worst, scariest, deadliest enemy you could have. If you piss us off, go ahead and shoot yourself in the head 'cause it is only a matter of time before we do it. (we need to work on that some, as well)

I think of it like having a very large friendly dog that just happens to be attack trained.

"Palestinian Bomb Explodes Early: No Virgins Await"

-------------------------------------------------

There seems to be an error in the reporting....

On the contrary, these terrorist deliberately blew themselves up to protest the western ( read: American ) media tagging them as --"Homicide Bombers"... They blew themselves up to justify the --"Suicide Bombers"-- classification.

But since they failed to murder infidels, they will not be rewarded the 70 virgins...

What a luck.....

.

"When your govenment authorizes the killing of someone (enemy troops, cambatants, non-combatants, or death row inmates) it isn't murder."

so the Lockerbie bombing if ordered by the Libyan government wasn't murder then.
whatever you say

some random guy "Vital infrastructure and communication facilities are legitimate military targets. If they are staffed by civilians at the time of the attack...like I said before: tough s**t."

vital infrastructure like trade centres you mean ?

These guys should visit my website "virginbride.net" to get a virgin. A lot less effort and messy.