April 04, 2003
Kerry Calls for U.N. Rule in Post-Bush U.S.
(2003-04-04) -- U.S. Senator John Kerry, D-MA, said the United Nations should have primary responsibility for governing the United States in the post-Bush era. Buy "Axis of Weasels," the first book by Scott Ott. $12.95 + S&H; Comments
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Good I'm the first. I agree with Governor Kerry. We have to stop being unilateral. Posted by: Bambi Stokes-Hymington at April 4, 2003 04:06 PMI tried to laugh, but could barely smile. Oh, Babmi. If you weren't such a Bimbo. Kerry is not governor of anything; he's a U.S. Senator from Massachusetts. Posted by: Stephen at April 4, 2003 04:25 PMI'm sure I knew that. I type the wrong thing sometimes. I called the President Butch and I once wrote violets when I meant violence. Nobody's perfect. I mean I would vote for the Governor to be President. Not my life partner. She is a woman (my partner is). I am a man. Posted by: Bambi Stokes-Hymington at April 4, 2003 04:37 PMi'm with some random guy - the lefties version of heaven sounds like hell to me Posted by: tom at April 4, 2003 04:51 PMI would probably go for the U.N. running the country before John Kerry. We could always look at the UN as an invading force. Ever try sueing a 308 at 2,800 feet per second? Posted by: Mike S at April 4, 2003 05:22 PMI think Sen Kerry will pay for his remarks. But to quote another scurrilous democrat I'm saddend, saddend by the republican response to this and all the other democrat remarks. Most notably Charlie Rangle accusing our troops of killing women and babies. President Bush went out on a very thin political limb to win a majority in the Senate. You would never know it. Posted by: Joe at April 4, 2003 05:28 PMIs John Kerry out of his mind or what? Do you even belieeeve he said that? I think the demo-craps ought to tie him to a chair and beat the living daylights out of him. They are just looking more and more pathetic! Our troops are rolling into Baghdad facing God Knows What and Kerry starts flapping his mouth, equating George Bush to Saddam Hussein. I suppose that's some lame reference to the election and how they won the popular vote and the Constitution doesn't count and all. Well, WAAAh! All you whiners just go in a closet and suck your thumb til the war's over. We'll let you know when it's safe to come out. Posted by: Tango at April 4, 2003 05:38 PMOh, I was refering to the Regime Change" comment by Kerry, not the part about the UN taking charge. I know that's a joke (I hope), but we could be giving him delusional ideas. Posted by: Tango at April 4, 2003 05:44 PMTango, that can't be the reference between the two - remember.... Hussein (amazingly!) won 100% of the vote! Let's see - anyone seen GBW or his cabinet in your neighborhood lately? Maybe gouging out a few kindergartners' eyes or raping their mothers? Nope. Hmm.... Tango, what could Kerry mean? Does he mean by GBW actually USING the authority to defend this nation that CONGRESS gave him? And is this guy serious about running for president? I'd sooner vote for Al Sharpton! Posted by: AHA at April 4, 2003 05:50 PMScott, sometimes you scare me. I wonder if you are some kind of X-files dude, and are reading Kerry's mind regarding his vision of the future. We really need to dissolve the UN before they convince more of our idiots (read: liberals) that their brand of unilateralism is a viable alternative to American Freedom. Posted by: tired of whiners at April 4, 2003 05:59 PMUN Troops? What UN Troops? The demoncrats can't stoop too low to advance their agenda. Can you beilieve that some of these yahoo's think we should stop the war TODAY! Imagine what our international prestige would be if we did that! Not to mention the recruiting for all the whacko Islamo-facist groups in the area. Posted by: Cyber Sarge at April 4, 2003 06:27 PMBambi is just pointing out that Kerry would like to be governor -- Governor of the United States under the United Nations directorship. Posted by: Jericho at April 4, 2003 06:42 PMDemocrats will vote for Sharpton in droves. He's got the best weed! Posted by: citizensoldier71 at April 4, 2003 06:53 PMThere's a reason we call people from Massachusetts, "Massholes". Senator Kerry epitomizes that ideal perfectly. Seems like the Dems leaders are self-destructing. First Tom Daschle shoots himself, and now Kerry. If this keeps up, the Dems won't have anyone left who is electable. Posted by: Bisselite at April 4, 2003 07:29 PMHummm........Kerry would be the first Jewish governor of the United States. Not sure how that would fly with the UN and all the dictators in charge of Human Rights and Disarmament. Although.......He is named Kerry. And he is from MA and his best buds with Kennedy. Maybe he can say he is Irish Catholic again. I hope he calls the pope on this. Don't want to have Israel made at the US. Just wouldn't look right. I wonder? IF the UN took over the regime change in the US, would that mean that they could use the US military as a UN military? (Scratching my head) Hey.......maybe Saddam will win after all. Posted by: crackerjack at April 4, 2003 07:41 PMThe louder Kerry calls for "regime change!" the more the UN will resist...and Kerry will have to send in the US/UK/Aus troops. Unfortunately for Kerry, though..he's the commander-in-chief of nothing. And, btw, this is just the latest in a looooooonnng line of cutesy inappropriate colorful metaphors. Posted by: Tuning Spork at April 4, 2003 08:25 PM This is off the thread but.... an e-mailer to Bill O'Reilly said she was from Australia and the Dixie Chix were touring down there and were saying that "they stood by their comments re: the President".... Can anyone confirm this? Posted by: AHA at April 4, 2003 09:11 PMConsidering the current track record of various Democrats for saying insanely stupid things just to somehow distance themselves from the current administration and show themselves and their party as "true" Democrats, somehow moving back to the ideals that once united them and made them a force to be reconed with, that they have found that the most reasonable and popular position is already taken by the Republicans. Curious as to why they feel it is necessary to be contrary to the Republicans no matter what the cost to their credibility. This epidemic of stupidity seems to be affecting more and more of them. Not just one big moron that says something career ending, but droves of them. One would think that somehow they could formulate a position or spin that would make them seem as an alternative to the Republican position as opposed to seemingly laying the foundation for a political ideal about as popular as a suicide cult. I'm wondering how long it'll be untill there aren't any of them left that seem even remotely reasonable. I would be curious to know who the people are that would put some of these rejects in office. I think the Democratic leaders should all move to Canada, they just might have some luck there. Posted by: Ah_Ha at April 4, 2003 09:18 PMFrom LaunchYahoo... Maines, however, has reacted more flippantly to the situation, according to reports. The singer said, "The more flack I get for it, the prouder I am." She was also quick to point out that in her hometown of Lubbock, Texas, "only six people showed up," for a public Chicks CD-smashing protest. Maines's comment has also taken its toll on the Dixie Chicks' album sales, which have dropped a reported 52 percent. Despite the dip in sales, the group remains the top-selling country act, with their album Home firmly entrenched in the Number One spot on the Billboard Top Country Albums chart. The Dixie Chicks will kick off their "Top Of The World" tour on May 1 in Greenville, South Carolina. -- Margy Holland, Nashville Posted by: AHA at April 4, 2003 09:22 PMOMFG! Its so funny because its so true! Remember what 8 years of a Democrat militarily-impotent lying cheating hillbilly with a power-mad wifey got us: Posted by: American Patriot at April 4, 2003 09:35 PMPeople like John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, and Tom Daschle are the reason that this once devout Democrat is a Democrat no longer. I used to think that I had bolted the party because my ideals and life-guiding principles had changed; however, I soon discovered that the party, not I, had changed. I voted proudly for Senator Henry M. Jackson for president and, later, held my nose and cast my now embarrassing vote for James Earl Carter. After that election, my last hurrah as a Democrat, I was once again able to vote without a clothes pin on my nose. Today, after reading some more foolishness from the Roman Catholic Church and Pope John Paul II, I find that another once revered institution of my youth is deserting me. It isn't I who is leaving the Church, rather, it is the other way around. I can't even enjoy much of the music that I like or watch many of the movies made today. Of course, so few of the movies are worth the viewing that this isn't really a hardship. I am moved to ask the rhetorical question, "What is it within these people (you know, Sean Penn, Robin Williams, Baghdad Babs, and the rest) that makes them the way they are? Lord, I wish I knew. Posted by: Joseph at April 4, 2003 09:40 PMclick on my name or go to www. sonymusic.net/sony/feedback.cgi if you'd like to express your opinion re: Natalie Maines & Dixie Chix. Posted by: AHA at April 4, 2003 09:47 PMi can say what i WANT because I'm a arteeest. {flipping hair}
Ah yes, the "regime change" gambit has the subtle fingerprints of that deft political strategist, chris lehane -- Kerry spokespunk! Proving that you don't have to be Albert Gore, Jr. to have a tin ear and hold charter membership in the Elite Democratic Guard (see mullings.com) Posted by: Mr. Taggart at April 4, 2003 10:16 PMOhmygosh I said goodnight because I am going to bed now. Don't try to debate me in my sleep. I'll be back. Posted by: Bambi Stokes-Hymington at April 4, 2003 11:05 PMBambi-------Bambi---------Wake up, you're snoring! Posted by: Van Winkle at April 4, 2003 11:30 PM"'It's clear that a nation with so many ethnic groups and competing idealogies is not ready for representative government,' he said. 'So the United Nations must take control as soon as George Bush is overthrown.'" Most ironic sentences ever. These sublte quips are the reason you are better than the Onion, Scott. Posted by: M. Upton at April 5, 2003 12:32 AMBaghdad (IP News) From Baghdad, Peter Ornot reporting "The Kingdoms of this world have become the Kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ and He shall reign forever and ever." Revelations 11:15c That is the kind of regime change I'm looking forward to in America, but a 'Governor' Kerry, no, that would be a step in the wrong direction. I know this is pulling the thread but there are so many parallels between Hezekiah and Reagan, Mannasah and Clinton, and Josiah and W. Read 2nd Kings from chapter 20 onward and for more detail 2nd Chronicles from chapter 29 onward to see what I mean. Posted by: Jericho at April 5, 2003 06:30 AMUP(2003-04-06) The United Nations announced today that April 7-April 13 will be League of Nations rememberance week. Kofi Annon in a ribbon cutting ceremony at the dedication of a League of Nations memorial in Addas Abba announced that, "Without the determined work of the League of Nations we would not be where we are today." School children around the nation studying the history of the organization began mock League of Nations assemblies last month. Marin County second grade teacher, Brian Wash, stated, "A lot of the kids really got into it, many of them showed up in Wonder Woman, Batman and Superman costumes. They really seem to want to help solve the world's problems." Other events including celebrations in Manchuria, Nanking, and the Czech Republic are scheduled to kick off later this week. Posted by: Jericho at April 5, 2003 07:10 AMWas Kerry wounded in the face in Nam? The reason I ask is, it looks like his face is made of leather. Anyone who spouts off, "Kerry is a war hero!", thinking that that gives him 'carte blanc', is a bigger idiot than Kerry. That's like saying because you're a police officer, you cannot commit a crime! One other question, do the states of Mass, and Vermont, actually have any rational people living in them? Look at who they elect, over and over. Ted Kennedy, Barney Frank, Kerry, Howard Dean, Jim Jeffords, the list goes on. Actually, I can't think of one, who has any sense, or isn't some kind of pervert, or possibly committed murder! BTW, Ben Cohen, former co-owner of Ben and Jerry's ice cream, and anti-war activist, made clear that, his views were his own, and boycotting Ben and Jerry's wouldn't hurt him. I say, whoever bought Ben and Jerry's deserves what they get, for doing business with this #@$*&%! Posted by: Scary Kerry at April 5, 2003 08:37 AMDearest Bambi: Is your life partner Oogle Hassen? Danjo PS: My son was set to go to Kuwait, then at the last second, the entire unit is now doing MOUT, Attention 3rd world, 3rd rate penny-ante dictators, here's a fun project for you to do today: P.S. to Turkey: If we can't get the 4th ID in place before the Iraqi's fall completely apart we will hold you responsible! ;>) Posted by: Greyhawk at April 5, 2003 10:56 AMGrey - how much do you want to bet the 4th ID is arrayed up & down the Syrian border? Posted by: AHA at April 5, 2003 11:05 AMNo bet, AHA. There are foreign arabs attacking our troops in the marshes near Bagdad. They got bayonets stuck up the wazoo by our troops. If they are Iranians, anyone want to bet on a "RIGHT TURN, CLYDE!", after Iraq or if they are Syrians, how about a ------- God, it pains me to even say it------- "LEFT TURN, CLYDE!" The radicals in the Arab world need a lesson in manners, badly. Posted by: Old Sailor at April 5, 2003 12:03 PMOkay people I've only got a little time here because I am busy and this is exciting! We may have very little time left for anti-war demonstrations, so this one is extra special. It didn't work out as well as we hoped last week, but it will be better this time. I'm talking about "Run Naked Chicken for Peace II" and it's going to be tonight. I know the name sounds silly, but the action is not. The name is from Mandarin Chinese and doesn't translate well. The action, though, is this. At 7PM ET you run out of your homes 'skyclothed' as our wiccan brothers and sisters say, tuck your thumbs into you armpits, flap you arms and cluck like a chicken. Run, don't walk, down your street and into your city centers. There we will gather and continue to run around in circles flapping and clucking until we achieve world peace! Greyhawk-don't get too upset with Turkey-they're closer to Iraq than we are, and are probably still afraid of what would happen if we were to back out of this war (unlikely as it seems to us here in America). I do think that we should send the aid that we've sent to the ungrateful countries of the world to the 40 or so "little" countries that have supported us (at least with words) like Micronesia, etc. Michael Moore running around naked-makes me remember the movie "Ghostbusters" and...the Stay-Puff marshmellow man-if only we could blow him up the same way! Sen. Kerry (Bambi-he has to be related to you-he also has a feminine name) won't be remembered in the future, the same way the nay-sayers in the Gulf War aren't remembered (or at least, until Kerry writes a book and ends up on Geraldo's PBS talk show!). I just wish one of these bozos would end up on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart. Posted by: DoktorI at April 5, 2003 02:22 PMDok: Turkey reference = joke [note the wink ;>)] Welcome aboard. Off topic, but worthwhile: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,83288,00.html This story keeps getting better, and it's not all out yet. I'm tearing up here. This stuff is why I get choked up over little things like the National Anthem and the Pledge of Allegiance, POW/MIA remembrance ceremonies, and corny patriotic songs. Conversely, it's why Mike Moore, the Dixie Chicks, and Tom F. D'ashole can kiss my [] It's just too bad that Hollywood's going to make money on this. Posted by: Greyhawk at April 5, 2003 03:40 PMI know that I this is a little off topic and breaks the rule of posting something from somewhere else, but I think this bears posting. I cannot presume to speak for the "majority" of Canadians on this issue and can only speak for myself. Or I would, if this letter from the National Post (www.nationalpost.com) didn't say it for me better than I ever could: Rally for America Erica Basnicki, a journalism student at Ryerson University, made these remarks at the Rally for America in Toronto yesterday. Her father, Ken, died at the World Trade Center. I am so proud to be here today, with my mother, my brother and so many Canadian friends of America. I am prouder still that not even a little freezing rain could deter us from showing our support to the American people. I lost my father in the attacks on the World Trade Center on September 11. Since then, my mother and I have been to New York at least a half a dozen times. Our first trip was for the memorial at Ground Zero in October, 2001. A woman who had lost her husband in the Oklahoma City bombing was also there. She came down to help a 9/11 widow get through the emotional memorial service. That 9/11 widow was my mom. She said to my mom, "We are going to pray that you never have to do for someone else what I am doing for you today." Later on that day, a taxi driver, on discovering that someone we loved died in the World Trade Center, refused to take fare for the ride. On a subsequent trip, a complete stranger who we shared a cab with offered me Rolling Stones tickets as his way of showing support during our time of grief. The Basnicki family was even in New York the day that the men's hockey team won the Olympic gold medal. Some strangers from New York watched the game with us. They congratulated Canada on their victory. These people came from all different walks of life but shared a common bond: They are Americans. And I am here to say to all Americans: Thank you. I am sorry for the comments made by some of our Canadian politicians. And I want all Americans to know that these politicians do not speak for me. They do not speak for my mom. And they do not speak for all of us here. We may have our disagreements about the war, but the majority of Canadians do agree on one thing: the American people are our friends, and we hope that relations between Canada and the United States will continue to grow stronger. My dad is not here in body, but he's here in spirit. And knowing my dad, if he could send a message to the people of the United States today, he would say, "Thank you for looking after my family for me." But since he can't deliver that message himself, I will: Thank you, America, for your love, your support and your generosity. We love you, and we will never forget what you've done for us." Erica Basnicki, Toronto. Posted by: Eggman at April 5, 2003 04:58 PMLifted From AHA: Maines, however, has reacted more flippantly to the situation, according to reports. The singer said, "The more flack I get for it, the prouder I am." She was also quick to point out that in her hometown of Lubbock, Texas, "only six people showed up," for a public Chicks CD-smashing protest. Does that mean only six people in Lubbuck actually owned a Dixie Chicken CD? Sales drop 52 % and they are still at the top of the Country charts? Doesn't say much for country music. LONG LIVE ROCK!!!!!! "hope I die before I get old." eggman Puh-leeeze I love eggs. Posted by: the Egg Lady at April 5, 2003 05:48 PMHollywood wouldn't make any money on the war if we don't go to the movies they will inevitably make. However, I've been a doctor long enough to know that most people have very short memories, and that we are doomed to repeat history because we ultimately forget it (i.e. the French). I'm sure that someday we as a country and as a world will be back in this same situation at some point. As an aside, I find it interesting that the least expensive frying pan I found at the Odd-Job discount chain was T-Fal, which is made in France. Posted by: DoktorI at April 5, 2003 08:48 PMEgglady, you're joking, of course. Otherwise you would be beneath contempt for your remark. Posted by: AHA at April 5, 2003 11:07 PM"Sales of Dixie Chicks c.d's drop 52% and they're still at the top of the country music charts." They must have hired the Iraqi Minister of Information as their new press agent. I hear his job is about to be down-sized, but I thought the New York Times wanted to hire him as a new editor, which, given their daily need to print corrections of late, they need more of. It's a shame they didn't get to him before the Dixie Chicks snatched him up, though - he's a perfect fit for the Times. Posted by: franko at April 6, 2003 01:48 AMDo you know what it is that I am thinking? Here is what it is: I am Ooglay!! Why are you Americans so afraid of the suicide bombers? Every week we have maybe 10 Iraqi suicide bombers trying to kill my glorius father (may his doubles never fail) or my exalted brothers (may their flack jackets always expand to encase their growing fatness!!). I mean, how you think hew got this idea, anyway? Your Amerian press is always trying to scare you. Well in my country we kill any reporter who even knows about suicide bombers! Stupid Americans. Also the Marines and Army who were not in Baghdad also killed 60 Iraqi babies who were trying to play American Baseball in the street. They just ran them over. I swear by my mothers purity this is true! I am going to work on my diary now. Posted by: Ooglay Hussein at April 6, 2003 05:08 AMOff topic, sorry, but I think our media should stop bragging about getting, 'Chemical' Ali, until we have gotten, (or at least located), 'Chemical' Frasier, and 'Chemical' Foreman! P.S. I'll bet you thought this was Bambi, didn't ya? Posted by: Susan Serin-Done at April 6, 2003 07:44 AMOoouch, Susan! What about his wife, Chemical Kate? (Sorry) Danjo: I'll bet one thing just about everyone in the the anti-everything crowd has in common is no relatives in the service of their country. Be proud. Your son is trained to survive. He'll be shoulder to shoulder with a lot of friends. He has the prayers of a nation along with them. Click on my name to go to "hippy.com" a site that touts "free speech" all over the place until you register - at which time the terms state "you'll be deleted if you post things we don't agree with or think are patently ridiculous" Posted by: AHA at April 6, 2003 12:13 PMDanjo, Yeah, Kerry is a veteran. In 1971 he threw out his medals and spit on them. By golly, THAT is something to hang your hat on, isn't it? NOW he uses it for political gains? Interesting how he leaves the part out about ditching his medals and spitting on them. Hmmmmm. Now THERE is a guy I'd trust - NOT!!! Posted by: anne daria at April 6, 2003 03:00 PManne daria, wasn't there something also about Kerry engaged in a firefight in 'Nam where he wasted a bunch of civs. I seem to remember he got those medals for killing a bunch of VCs that turned out to be villagers. Posted by: Old Sailor at April 6, 2003 03:12 PMI for one, would welcome a regime change starting with the voting out of office of Senator Kerry, and every other Saddam/Socialist loving cretin there is. I will go make my comments known about the Dixie Chicks and I really can't take anymore adventures of Ooglay Hussein. My eyes start to water and I can't seem to control my emotions...or my physical reactions...truly his prose and that of Bambi's really gets to me...but it is the loud guffaws that get to my family. Keep it up guys. I wonder which anti war Hollowhead Liberal wants to play the main parts in the Jessica Lynch story? I would not pay to see it, given Hollowhead's tendency to muck up anything and their stand on this war. Posted by: Cricket at April 6, 2003 05:25 PMWouldn't that be interesting... to see which one of these hollycrites is willing to line their pockets portraying a heroine in what they perceive as an illegal war. Yuck. As long as it's not al-janeen garbarfolo or susan serendumb. If it has Bruce Willis or Rob Lowe as two of the seals/rangers that rescued her, I'll go see it. Maybe Charlie Daniels and Kid Rock can do the soundtrack. http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/3/4/95343.shtml Posted by: Pooke at April 6, 2003 06:20 PMMaybe Natalie Maines COULD play the part of Pfc Lynch. Just as long as Natalie sustains the same injuries that Jessica did. Y'know, for realism. Posted by: citizensoldied71 at April 6, 2003 06:49 PMThe winner is Sara Michelle Geller http://www.boycott-hollywood.us/inspiration.htm Posted by: Pooke at April 6, 2003 06:50 PMHello and thank you I'm catching on. I said it first two days ago. Also, somebody please take down the scary picture up there okay? I have war nerves and I'm afraid it's our behavior in Iraq that brings these things on... Okay I think we can all agree that Jessica Lynch's story would make a good movie. Especially with her fighting til she was out of ammo and then the good guy Iraqi going to the Marines. I'd pay to see that on a movie. Also I think that the only actress to play Jessica would be Jeanine Garofolo. And that George Clooney guy from ER could play "Mohammed". Sean Penn could be the head Commando that rescues her. And we need Hallie Berry to play the tough as nails General in charge of combat. It would make millions! Then we can take the millions and rebuild Iraq. Oh this is embarrassing and wonderful all at the same time! I have been in Jail! Real Jail! It's wonderful to be arrested for protest, but it's embarrassing what happenss to you when you are in jail naked. ROTFLMAO, Bill, did you see ChickenMan. He was supposed to be there but arrested for running around plucked. Posted by: Old Sailor at April 6, 2003 10:17 PMBill Terwilliger, Yes, Moore, Arnett and all the other lard-asses showed up! It was a beautiful expression of performance art worthy of a Salvator Dali dreamscape...and, YES!, there were GIRLS! Rosie O'Donnell was there, Babs showed up, Amy Carter strutted her *cough* stuff, Natalie Maines pranced and sang an a capella "If I Had A Hammer"....I slit my wrists. Hospital food ain't as bad as it's rumoured to be! *uuuuuuuuuh* Posted by: Tuning Spork at April 6, 2003 10:20 PMI would go for a movie of the Jessica Lynch story if: Every actor was a conservative, Jessica Lynch got at least 50% of the profit, and ed asner had to sweep out the theater after the shows. April 7 2003 United States 3rd Army owns downtown Baghdad The 3rd army has just taken BE PROUD AMERICA
Wake up Scott! There are stories to be written! Posted by: Susan Serin-Done at April 7, 2003 06:07 AMPooke, I used your link, it's great to know SOME celebs have sense, (even if it is feigned, to save their careers). I am still confused about Mel Gibson. I have heard him say, he supports Bush and the war, yet, his production company has offered Michael Moore $800,000.00, to produce a motion picture about, (supposed), ties between the bin Ladenn family, and George Herbert Walker Bush. I like Gibson, but would like to know where he REALLY stands! Posted by: Susan Serin-Done at April 7, 2003 06:34 AMFOUND IRAQI WMD SITE Mon April 7, 2003 06:43 AM ET NEAR BAGHDAD (Reuters) - U.S. biological and chemical weapons experts believe they may have found an Iraqi storage site for weapons of mass destruction (WMD), a U.S. officer told Reuters on Monday."Our detectors have indicated something," said Major Ros Coffman, a public affairs officer with the U.S. 3rd Infantry. "We're talking about finding a site of possible WMD storage. This is an initial report, but it could be a smoking gun," he said, adding that the site was south of the central Iraqi town of Hindiyah. "It is not as if there is a cloud of gas hanging everywhere endangering soldiers lives. We're talking about a facility," Coffman added. Peace prospects in the Middle East are "a primary casualty of the war against Iraq." In Israel, veteran West Bank reporter Danny Rubenstein agrees that the Jewish state is extremely unlikely to accept restrictions on settlements in Palestinian territory. Writing in the liberal Israeli daily Ha'aretz, Rubenstein says that every Israeli government in the last 36 years has "found a way to maneuver, evade and avoid all the prohibitions and restrictions that have been imposed on the settlements." In the end, says Rubenstein, "all the plans to dry out the settlements have in fact led to the opposite result: . . . the Jewish settlers in the West Bank have become the lords of the territory." "A social and political earthquake in Israel will be needed to stop the development of the settlements and to freeze their growth. There is not a chance that the government of Prime Minister Ariel Sharon will even get anywhere near this road map." From Washingtonpost Posted by: nevil at April 7, 2003 10:26 AMnevil- I know who you are. Answer my quesitons. Posted by: Bobby at April 7, 2003 12:36 PMNever mind, you don't have to. The more you post the more clear it becomes to myself and everyone else here that you probably don't think this war is for oil, or the euro, or anything else you have previously posted. Please believe my posterior. You are probably a terrorist sympathizer (HAMAS, al-Queda) and think the US deserved what happened on 9/11. Your sugar coating is wearing very thin, and I'm embarrased for having associated with dirt like you. Now I must go take a shower. Posted by: Bobby at April 7, 2003 12:43 PMnevil: The prospects for peace in the Middle East died with more than 3000 people on September 11, 2001. Posted by: Korora at April 7, 2003 04:51 PMI snagged this from another forum: Sitting in the House committee as we speak, H.R. 1146 calls for the END of United States membership in the U.N., as well as their subsequent removal from our shores. Introduced by Rep. Ron Paul( R. Tx ), this Bill has seen a grassroots movement started on Newsmax in the form of a Petition to get the Bill ONTO THE FLOOR for a Vote. I urge everyone to support this most worthwhile endeavor. The Bill is Officially known as "The American Soveriegnty Restoration Act". write your senator: write your state rep: Please contact your representative and express your view. Posted by: AHA at April 7, 2003 08:06 PMAHA, It is urgent that this gets passed before, the U.N. gets though an amendment, they have been secretly trying to pass, that would tax every taxpayer in the United States an average of $750.00 per year, to go to the United Nations! If we don't belong, we won't have to pay it! Posted by: True American at April 8, 2003 03:53 AMIn the early 1970s, the Iraqi Baathist regime was getting too close to the Soviet Union for America's liking and threatening the Shah of Iran, a US client. Henry Kissinger and Richard Nixon encouraged the Iraqi Kurds to revolt. Saddam Hussein responded to the pressure and came to terms with Washington. American, Israeli and Iranian advisers pulled out of Iraqi Kurdistan. Saddam sealed the borders and slaughtered. The standards of the Cold War were lax, but America's betrayal of an ally was still shocking. The Congressional select committee on intelligence said that "the President, Dr Kissinger and the Shah hoped that (the Kurds) would not prevail. They preferred instead that the insurgents simply continue a level of hostilities sufficient to sap the resources of (Iraq). The policy was not imparted to our clients, who were encouraged to continue to fight. Even in the context of covert operations, ours was a cynical exercise." In 1988 Saddam killed somewhere around 100,000 Kurds in the 'Anzal' campaign to Arabize northern Iraq. The scale of the killing was such that no one knows the precise death toll, but for once, the overused word 'genocidal' was an accurate description of his policy. After the 1991 Gulf War, the Kurds along with the rest of Iraq took George Bush (senior) at his word and rose up when he called on the 'Iraqi military and the Iraqi people to take matters into their own hands'. They were massacred again. In 1996, they fought among themselves. Kurds being wiped out was a staple of international relations. The truth of the Kurdish proverb, 'we've no friends but the mountains', was indisputable. Mr. French, Dear Bobby,
I am not a terrorist sympathizer. I try to have a balanced and nuanced approach of the present situation. You seem to be like a lot of americans ignoring the complexity of the world. You do not want to accept that US foreign policy (as well as USSR, UK and France ) in the past is one of the explanations of the present situation in the middle East. We can find in recent history rational explanations for the apparition of terrorist organisations like HAMAS (answer to Jewish Gush Emounim) and al-Queda (created by the US policy during the cold war as an instrument against USSR). Anyway Iraq has no link with 9/11 and the present war is not morally justified because it is a bloody instrument that will create more problems than it has solved. About oil, we will soon know after the war if the US take it or give it back to Iraq. We are still waiting for Saddam's WMD. What about the bridge that you told me to have been sabotaged in New York ? Was it true or war propaganda ? Personnally I am only wishing the war to stop as soon as possible. Posted by: Frenchman at April 8, 2003 11:12 AMDear ams NOBODY but the kurds care about the suffering of the Kurds. Don't forget about the Kurds arch-enemies: the Kurds. Click on my name to hear the lameness of an anti-war protester "discussing" the war with an Iraqi exile who was forced to flee his country. Posted by: AHA at April 8, 2003 11:54 AMsorry, file archived. Posted by: AHA at April 8, 2003 11:55 AMFrenchman, Quote"About oil, we will soon know after the war if the US take it or give it back to Iraq. What rock where hiding under in 1991? Did we keep it then. We are paying higher prices today than we did then. Get some new arguments your old ones are putting us to sleep.I could go on but you are making me.... "yawn". I suggest you frogs learn how to live with your anger. No one likes you. Prepare to meet the reprecussions of being spineless and having no moral fabric. Speaking of fabric,go back to stitching the uniforms of our brave Marines.I finally admit, I have found one thing your people do well and that is sewing "le fabric". No one can double-stitch a white flag like the "Beret Wearing Socialists"! You have only suceeded in brainwashing your self by spewing out the same rhetoric over and over, over and over, over and over,over and over,over and over,over and over,over and over,over and over,over and over,over and over,again. Yawn....... Posted by: Harden Stuhl at April 8, 2003 12:59 PMScrappleface is best when it's jokes first, politics second. This story was a cheap political attack, using a dumb comment by Kerry to paint him like a far-left dip. There's plenty of far-left dips out there. There's plenty of ways to make fun of Kerry. I'm used to better stuff from Scrappleface. Posted by: Chicken Pot Pie at April 8, 2003 01:24 PMFrenchman, Stop posting lies, you are starting to sound like the Iraqi Information Minister. Watch out Frenchie, I'm right behind you! Posted by: FrenchmanKiller at April 8, 2003 01:31 PMHey Chicken Cow Pie, stop complaining, how much did you pay to visit this web site? NOTHING, RIGHT? Don't like the content, SEE YA!!! Posted by: FrenchmanKiller at April 8, 2003 01:35 PMFrenchman, I swore I wouldnít do this any more, since you never answer a thing I ask, but: First of all, the Washington Post article you quote is an editorial and not fact. Second, you used the name Nevil, which is funny considering his policy of appeasement prior to WWII had failed miserably, which leads me to another question that you wonít answer: When has the peace or appeasement movement ever succeeded in doing anything with the exception of emboldening tyrants and dictators? You claim that you are not a terrorist sympathizer, yet you seem to make every excuse for them from Jewish settlements (HAMAS) to past US History in Afghanistan when we were fighting the Cold War. I will not dispute the fact that the US made a mistake by leaving Sadaam in power in ë91, but there was a UN mandate (which if we didnít follow, Iím sure would have really ticked you off) to get him out of Kuwait and leave. What makes you think Americans ignore the complexity of the world? Maybe you just have a very narrow and simplistic view of Americans. It is also presumptuous of you to assume Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. I agree it has not yet been proven, but unless you are inside Al-Queda you have no basis to insist that they are not. We have already uncovered a 747 used to train hijackers and there has been documented meetings in the past with OBL and SH. Can you positively state that SH wouldnít give Sarin gas to al Queda or any other terrorist organization to be released in one of our major cities? It's unacceptable to risk innocent civilians just to make sure this Stalinesque dictator remains in power. As for moral justification, remember that SH did not just slaughter over a million Kurds, but also imprisoned and tortured the majority Shiite population. And I do not agree that a productive, Muslim democracy in Iraq will cause more problems. In fact, it could serve as a role model and spurn hope in other Muslim nations that they too can contribute to the world economy and reap the benefits. The bridge incident here in New York turned out to be a couple of drunks who decided to enter an unauthorized area, and as you can imagine, we here are a little sensitive to breaches of security. An hyper-reactive news media reporting without enough information caused a brief panic in the area. Lastly, I think your last wish, that this war ends quickly, is coming true. Posted by: Bobby at April 8, 2003 04:30 PMYou go Bobby! The battle between you and the F-man is the greatest ever waged on this site. That post above may be the first multi-sentence non-copy&paste; post he's ever done. If you keep at him he may say something with substance. Also, I wish I'd have gone to your middle school. Mine wasn't so good. Posted by: Greyhawk at April 8, 2003 04:46 PMBobby, keep it up. Someday you might get an answer from this boo-boo-head. Unfortunately, as the rest of us already know, he only speaks Slogan-ese; the Empty Rhetoric Dialect, don't you know. What? Posted by: AHA at April 8, 2003 04:55 PMThank you both. I am thoroughly humbled as I have enjoyed your posts immensley. Posted by: Bobby at April 8, 2003 05:11 PMWho is this clown over there across the pond? HEY FRENCHMAN!! France is an international joke!! You guys think you are event relevant? You all have a seriously false sense of importance. America is the light of the world. We feed the world. We employ the world. You are the beacon of appeasement. When was the last time you all did anything for yourselves? Granted Paris hasn't fallen in about 50 or 60 years, (is that a record?) but I'm sure even the hungriest of would-be invaders would be too embarrased to fight you. I'm sure they'd just stay home, drink beer and play paintball for a few hours, because it would be more challenging and it wouldn't waste quite as much ammo or fuel. And I know it drives you and the rest of the frappe' crowd absolutely crazy. Since when is anyone in France aware of anything in the rest of the world? You can sit around and dictate encyclopedia history to us all you want. If that makes you feel intelligent, cool by me, man. But you're still a joke. We all know that the crepe club over there wants us desperately to adopt you're brand of liberalism and socialism, so we can become a thumb-sucking member of the axis of appeasement. Not gonna happen. And how much money did you Frenchmen make from Iraq these 12 years???? Posted by: GHOST at April 8, 2003 10:36 PMI just want to let you all know....John Kerry is the richest man in the U.S. Senate with a net worth of around $675 million. How did he earn all that money, you ask? Well, he married into the Heinz family (as in Heinz ketchup). And I know why he wants to be president. The special interests in the Big Ketchup Corporations want him to get the tomato prices up so that they can corner the market and expand their portfolios. Are we going to just stand by and let our lives be run by the greedy exploitations of Big Ketchup??? I think not! A call to arms, then...say NO to Big Ketchup!!! It's all about ketchup!!! It's all about ketchup!!!! Posted by: GHOST at April 8, 2003 10:53 PMWhat do you think of that AHA? Posted by: GHOST at April 8, 2003 10:55 PMAnd lastly, I too must pay kudos to Bobby. The Marines were standing in one of the Al-Qaida camps the other day, yet the left continues to proclaim from Joe Mugs Coffeeshop that "Sadaam didn't...Osama did..." Who cares. No terrorist will ever get vx or sarin from Sadaam to use on America, Iraq will soon be the one hope for freedom throughout the Middle East, and the French will never make another dollar off of Sadaam. Posted by: GHOST at April 8, 2003 11:05 PMWant to read a liberal opinion about Senator Kerry. Follow the link - you might be surprised what you read. Apparently they don't know where he stands either.This was in the Boston Globe - the area of his own regime. This guy is the ultimate opportunist. http://www.bigeye.com/jj112102.htm Posted by: Harden Stuhl at April 9, 2003 12:35 AMChicken Pot Pie, And your being humourous,hmmmm....,by saying what? Another Onion elitist... Posted by: Harden Stuhl at April 9, 2003 12:38 AMGhost, VERY good! I like your new rallying cry against Kerry, "It's all about ketchup!"! One word of caution though, before printing up our protest posters, make sure they say, "It's all about ketchup/catsup !". You know how he flip/flops! Posted by: Susan Serin-Done at April 9, 2003 04:41 AMHarden I read your link. I'm not real surprised -- Kerry wouldn't know a consistent position if it bit him the rear, and a lot of the Boston media despise him for it. But I wouldn't call him the "ultimate opportunist" -- Slippery John ain't in Slick Willie's league (not yet, anyway). As to humor, Ghost's post cracked me up. Now that was a clever parody. Posted by: Chicken Pot Pie at April 9, 2003 08:47 AMDear Bobby, The Washington Post article quote is an editorial that describes events. You are not suppose to trust or mistrust me and take the described events as a priori false or true. You just have to check several other sources to verify if they really happened. I claim that I am not a terrorist sympathizer and I think that terrorism can be explained as revenge for previous acts of terrorism. Gush emounim was a terrorist movement from Jewish settlements that explain HAMAS. Past history in Afghanistan during the Cold War explain Al Quaeda. The US made a mistake, not by leaving Saddam in power in ‘91, but before when helping him to reach and keep his position as a dictator during the cold war. Don't trust or mistrust me for this, just try to find documentation. All western countries supported him even AFTER he killed his fellow citizens. That make the moral position of US administration a little surprising.
It is presumptuous of you to assume Iraq had something to do with 9/11. Nothing has yet been proven and that is the problem.
We know that "The absence of evidence is not the evidence of the absence" but a Casus Belli needs solid evidence and simple suspicion is not sufficient. That is exactly why I think that this war is illegitimate and immoral. Please believe... Frenchman Ghost: too right. Let's take it one ridiculous step further.... Hollyboobs = aren't they the one's screaming "no BLOOD for OIL" and can't KETCHUP be used to simulate BLOOD in the movies? Could Kerry be tied to the Hollyboobs.....could the Hollyboobs be supporting KETCHUP interests.... Am I doing this right? Is this the convoluted thinking used by the ati-Bush crazies to reach their stupid conclusions? Posted by: AHA at April 9, 2003 11:31 AMThat's right Frenchy, and some people consider France part of Italy because of the Roman Empire. I demand equal time for CATSUP! Where's my lawyer? Posted by: Susan Serin-Done at April 9, 2003 12:08 PMAs for Sharpton, haven't you heard? Rush Limbaugh has endorsed him! (No, I'm not joking.) Take a look a this picture of Daschle being a real Leftist. These people are completely out of the loop! W just might get 99.95% of the vote in '04... but it'll be the Demo-craps fault!
Visit my hometown message board and get a dose of Massachusetts liberal nonthinking. Whip up some popcorn and watch the paranoid comedy of Evelyn, Oakarina, Bentley, and the Board Master/Clown...Mike! http://pub95.ezboard.com/bcapeannonline God help us all. Posted by: Eric Josephson at April 15, 2003 09:23 PMJohn Kerry would make a GREAT socialist dictator of Iraq. I can see that long, grim face smiling over Baghdad on every corner. Of course, he might not like it at first when he is required to hand over his polished wingtips and he might put up a fight to hold on to the navy blue pinstriped suit and silk tie, but he'd look swell dressed up in one of those robes or maybe one of those weird military getups (like Castro) worn by ambitious "leaders" in two-bit dictatorships. And Massachusetss would have one less source of excess hot air - I mean opinions. Posted by: Bill Wells at April 23, 2003 08:15 PM |
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