Richard Perle told US News & World Report:

"The Iraqi opposition is kind of like an MRE [meals ready to eat, a freeze-dried Army field ration]. The ingredients are there and you just have to add water, in this case U.S. support."

Testifying before Congress in 2000, Perle insisted, "We need not send substantial ground forces into Iraq when patriotic Iraqis are willing to fight to liberate their country."

Last year, he conceded that the US troop requirement might go as high as 40,000.

We hope and trust the vast majority of the Iraki believe they are being liberated.

But the more they fight, the more it suggests that some, even outside the tyrannical elite, actually resent having their country invaded.

And that thought is a little hard to contemplate right now.

News crews examining the arial photo's did grid count cross sections of the crowd and determined that the actual count was only 3.7 people.

Okay people! I've only got a little time here. The Tet-watch group is really working overtime, but the problem is the news guys on our side are still trying to establish their "fairness". In other words, yes, those of you who say we should be going with the events of this past weekend are right, but we are going to stick to the plan and for now it's too early. Stay with the program, do not ad lib!
And the Archie Bunker group is warming up right here on Scrapple Face - practice people! I know the gomers here are tough opposition but if you can't out smart them here then how can you suceed in your own communities? -I know, the TV people will edit for you, but come on! We need to win hearts and minds on the internet too! Nice try, Jack Daniels! You are entered to win the free Peter Paul and Mary CD for this week just for posting, but you are still a little too vague, some of the dumber ones won't get it!! Remember people, just keep talking, eventually the Bushies will just go away! They're weak, people!
And don't forget my original post on the "Decap Attack" thread. As always, click my name for your reading assignment. And check back daily!!!!

John Smith, you won last week, remember, no repeats!
But keep up the good work. I can hear the Bushies crying now. These people are too stupid to look up real facts guys, (remember, all the college professors are on our side) so just say anything!

Seriously people...

If you were an Iraqi civilian with Allied guns pointing at your forehead, and Iraqi guns pointing at your back... would you run out and waveing an American flag;cheer and hoopla the liberators? Especially given that Saddam has already used thay ploy to ambush a few of the troops... A six year old kid in Iraq has more common sense than Mr John Smith.

When we heard the reports of those Iraqi soldiers trying to surreneder before the war started... I cringed...knowing that would be used against us later.

Watch what happens when it is a declared victory. I just hope that Iraq runs out of Russian ammunition before it runs out of civilians to celebrate. We are the ones who care about that, Not Saddam et. al.

Yeah.. Terwilliger Quizzling

Me and Archie and Gomer didn't get it... did you say something in that blog? Because if there was a point... besides yada, yada, yada, (keep talking & smoking) we all missed it.

The people I was speaking to know what I was saying. The rest of you just go about your business.

John Smith!! How many people died for your cause today, Johnny? How 'bout you Bill? Jack? Click my name people, I re-posted something for you.

The religious cant that sent American troops into battle is perhaps the most sickening aspect of this surreal war.

God appointed America to save the world in any way that suits America.

What an uterly moronic post, colin. What religious cant. Are you saying a specific religion ordered the troops into battle. Words fail me in the usage of invective I would really like to say to you. People like you are dangerous to free interchange of ideas and civil discourse.

Sailor
I think he means the violent fundamentalist Islamists (who don't represent Islam) that flew into the WTC and Pentagon and that Field In PA.
Man you Navy Guys! That's why shore patrol was so busy! Always ready to fight! ;>)

I see what you mean. I stand corrected and apologize to colin.

Clinton bombed Kosavo for 80 days... lets see how long this lasts... one thing for sure... no Dummycrats should even be starting to get nervous yet about how long it is taking.

Did the first Gulf War, which ended with a US military presence in Saudi Arabia offensive to Islamic extremists, lead to September 11?

No.

'The people I was speaking to know what I was saying. The rest of you just go about your business.'

-What exactly were you saying? Not making too much sense there, guy.

I think he ment to say "da peoples dat I was dizcuzin dis wit no wha-i comin from. We need to win hats and mines, let's try Um, dis site wif da satire"

No, he was referring to the 6 foot rabbit, the intelligent liberals, the freshly showered French, and other non-existent people that only he can see. Time to re-up the prescription, eh Bill?

to Jack Daniels and John Smith -

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1085087,00.html
BASRA: ANTI-SADDAM RIOTS

Rioting is taking place in Basra by locals opposed to Saddam Hussein, reports say.

British forces are firing on Iraqi troops who are trying to crush the uprising, the reports add.

Reporter Richard Gaisford, who is with troops just west of Basra, said British intelligence officers told him about the civil uprising.

Sky News Foreign Editor Tim Marshall said that if the reports were true, it would be a "crucial moment" in the Iraq war.

He said it could trigger more uprisings across parts of Iraq - which the British and American governments had hoped for.

On second thought GoBlin, you are right in an indirect way. If you are saying Sadddam bears some responsibility for 911 because his invasion of Kuwait led to US prescence in Saudi Arabia led to anger of OBL led to 911? But still there are millions of better reasons to take this guy out, but sure, why not one more?

Hey Bill,
War alert! Just in on Fox. Iraqi soldiers shoot mortars into crowds of protestors in Basrah. (true) If we can capture and transport them, I have a job for them. Afew protestors, some professors, several liberals and so on. Don't think this "Bushie" is going away.

Good People of ScrappleFace
My organization, Progresssive People for Peace, will be using this space for inter-and intra- organizational communiques. We support the troops but we are opposed to war. We want to see Saddam gone but we support the Iraqi people. Our diverse group is proud to include people from all walks of life; moms, dads, professionals and professors, and probably your childrens school teachers! I myself am a currently unemployed computer programmer on welfare and disability. I believe in the environment, an equal playing field, separation of church and state, slave reparations, and that war is not healthy for living growing things. I referenced two sub-committees of the umbrella group in my earlier post above. I described the activities of all the committees in my post before that. We encourage young people to join our group. We will be debating you people here as we see fit. In 2004 we will elect a Democrat President.
Does this answer your questions?
Enjoy your war.

If an anti-war protest goes on in the woods, and no one is there to hear it, does it make any noise?

I'm pretty sure Bill's got his tongue stuck in his cheek. He had me going until I went back and read his post in the "decap" article.

Bill
Jeez you people as so predictable. you are yin and yang. You stand for nothing, yet you think you stand for everthing. I want 100 miilion dollars, but I don't want to do anything to earn it. My father wants to to chew a t-bone steak, but doesn't want to wear his false teeth to do it. Dash-hole bashes the admistration one day, then bends to the wind (polls) and says great things the next day. Hitlery Clintax vehimately denounces the administration on day then totally agrees with the the next. Of course that must have hurt her because rumor has it she has crawled under a couch started sucking her thumb and curled into a fetal position and refused to come out. Your party, your views, your sheeple are fractured. As far a democratic president, I am shaking my head to much to laugh. I am enjoying this war, sir, only for what it stands for and what it will accomplish. This war is fought for you as well. If you don't support it, kindly take yourself, and your rabble somewhere else. And please, turn off the light and shut the door on your out. Some of us are trying to conserve energy here.

"I myself am a currently unemployed computer programmer on welfare and disability. I believe in the environment, an equal playing field, separation of church and state, slave reparations, and that war is not healthy for living growing things."

that kinda says it all, doesn't it?
oops, he forgot the save the gay baby whale reference...

Gay baby whales??? Now, there's a coinable phrase.

Personally, I prefer to eat "Unborn boneless baby chickens". Does that make me a right wing republican idiot?

Bill, you left out our new talk-radio scheme and the part where finally get BART.

Bill Terwilliger,

I checked out your suggested web page "Alternet" or something like that. It's good to see that there is a community for the Left. Most of the discussion I viewed on this web page was from a liberal point of view. Actually, I would say that the discussion over there is a tad more civil than what I've observed here, I still can't bring myself to fully support the dogma of the left concerning the war in general. All said and done, I think my own curious swerve to the left over the past several years has been radically altered back to the right on the matter of national defense.

The posts you've placed on this forum seem to me to be a little bit on the "looking down your nose" side of things. Tell me, do you take the same tact on the Alternet forums or are you activly involved in serious discussion? It must be tough thinking your smarter than everybody else eah?

I have carpal tunnel, ADD, and a drug abuse problem. I am impaired and receive workman's comp. I have also won several lawsuits against my former employer who caused my drug dependency propblem. This leaves me with time for running Progressive People for Peace. Please do not humiliate me for my disadvantaged condition. I will in return not ridicule you.

Well, that explains everything. Here I was thinking all along that you just ate too much sushi.

Dear Bill, Thank goodness you are not bi-polar! Are you and 'side-show-Bob related?

Bill's satire is first rate. Good job depicting the lame left.

(03/25/2003) -- Denver -- News Release:

From the Colorado Department of Redundancy Department:

Local telivision crews are gearing up to cover the Anti-War Demonstration Demonstration in downtown Denver scheduled for March 22nd. Unfortunately, March 22nd was Saturday, so they missed their opportunity. They'll try again next year, in hopes that the war drags on for another year. This way, everybody can be in unity and demonstrate together.

News Networks Fail to Cover Anti-War Protest
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HERE IS A FEW WORDS WHY

insignificant,inconsequential
pointless, puny, aimless, shallow, back-burner, casual, cursory, depthless, designless,dinky, dispensable, empty, few, footling, garbled, immaterial,importless, inane, inappreciable, inconsiderable, inessential, inferior, insubstantial, irrelevant,lesser, light, little, low, meager, meaningless, miniature, minor,minute, negligible, niggling, no great shakes, nonconnotative,nondenotative, nonessential, not vital, nugatory, null, paltry
petit, petty, phatic, picayune, picayunish, piddling, purportless, purposeless, scrambled, secondary, senseless,shoestring, short, skin-deep, small, small-beer,small-fry, small-time, superficial, technical, tiny, trifling
trivial, unessential, unimportant, unimpressive, unmeaning

unnoteworthy, unsignificant, unsubstantial

JP
they are also incompetent, irrelavent and immaterial. your witness counselor.

Hey Bill,

It seems pretty clear you are joking, but it is still just a tad scary that your stab at a satirical, over-the-top representation of the fog in which liberals live is actually spot-on.

Yow.

However, since you mentioned it, I figured I would comment: I have emailed MSNBC every time that idiot jill nelson appears, crying about slave reparations. I always skewered her and her arguments, wondering why a 'news' organization such as they would allow such a moron to take up space on their site. But recently, I have discovered I am actually all for slave reparations. With one condition. Anyone who accepts these reparations must immediately renounce his or her American citizenship and be removed from the country at once, preferably to be sent 'home', which would be whatever country their slave ancestors were abducted from. Obviously, there is no actual inherent value in being an actual American citizen, so this should not present a problem. (Now if we only figure out a way to get all these sign-carrying nut-jobs to leave and go breathe all that air in frogland..)

But anyway, enough of da gress.

How can I join your army of well-organized covert liberal operatives and help put a Dem in the White House on '04 .....? (crap! Sorry. I was trying as hard as I could to keep a straight face while I was typing that - couldn't do it..)

TO
ALL SCRAPPLE GANG

THIS IS A MANDATORY COMMAND FROM THE TOP BRASS
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http://www.bushcountry.org/

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Funny thing about Cowboys they dont give a s___t
how they look,or what you think of them, they dont have the time to lie, and dont get in their way... and they always stick to their GUN'S
get a grp world its a whole new ball game and
" W " dont give two s___t's what the world thinks
what are they going to do about it anyway no a damn thing ..go ahead punk's make the Boss's day

Did anyone notice that American Movie Classics has been running "High Noon" lately? If you haven't seen it yet, catch it sometime. Or pick it up at Wal-Mart or K-Mart if you see it on the oldies rack.

For those of you who've seen it, you'd swear that was "W" on the screen, not Gary Cooper.

For the uninitiated, it's about a soon-to-retire lawman who, when troublemakers from the past come back to town, must choose between his commitment to his pacifist wife and doing his duty. His deputy quits because he's mad at being passed over for Cooper's job. He then tries to convince him to run away from the fight. Then Cooper goes to the saloon to look up some of the men who helped the last time, but finds out they actually prefer the bad guys to him. At the church, several men start to leave with him, but another gets up and tells them that it's not their problem, but if and when the bad guys try anything, they'll take care of it themselves.

Is any of this starting to sound familiar?????

This is from Cincinnati, Ohio

A trucker is accused of trying to run down anti-war protesters on the Ezzard Charles Drive Overpass on 75. Protesters were holding signs up during rush hour Monday night, when witnesses say a semi jumped the curb and scattered about 2 dozen people who were gathered there. Cincinnati police arrested 49 year-old James Watters on a list of charges including aggravated menacing, inducing panic and reckless operation. No one was hurt.

I do not see that he did anything wrong.

Gee Archie,

Thanks for that review of a 50 year old movie.

Has anyone seen Gone With The Wind? What's that one about?

Buckeye, thats because you didn't realize that protestors are not yet "in season". The season on protestors doesn't open for two more weeks.

I too agree with slave reparations. We can do it two ways:

1. Any person living today that was a slave gets a house, a car, and a monthly alotment (soinds alot like welfare doesn't it)

or, as the left would have it,

2. Any person who is the decendant or relative, of a slaveor slaves, even though those persons actually held as a slave are deceased, is entilted to monetary damages in the amount equal to the annual salary they would have been entitle to had they been free, times the number of years they were held as slaves plus interest. The reparations will come from those persons who initially placed said persons into slavery status and whomever kept said persons in slavery status and benefited from said status, as long as they are still living, or their decendants or businesses.

The way I figure it, if we adopt rule number two, I as a Roman Catholic am entitled to slave reparations from Italy for the enslavement of my ancestors. And since they were in the entertainment busniess (tossed to the lions for the amusement of the non-christians), the amount of reparations, plus interest for several hundred years should be incredible.

Where's my check??

Radio:

Check your antenna. I was drawing an analogy, which I hope wasn't lost on anyone else. The President is a cowboy, and we can thank God for that. (Better a Cowboy than the Medicine Show Man who came to town for eight years and sold everyone snakeoil.)

I would have used a modern movie, but there are so few to choose from that don't involve selfish, over-compensated, unpatriotic little twits.

And that's the view from Archie's Bunker...
By the way, I'm not Archie. I know that trying to teach history and the nature of good and evil to a "meathead" is like trying to teach a pig to sing.

Archie,

If you try drawing a comparison to something a little more recent, it may be mo-betta.

Think... Outland Sean Connery.... ring a bell...

I'm not a meathead either, I'm a bonehead.

THE GREAT STATE OF OREGON
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IS NOW READY TO PASS A BILL
ALL VIOLENT ANTI WAR PROTESTERS

SHALL BE DEEMED AS TERRORIST
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Radio...

Gone with the wind is a story about a pretty selfish little leftist bi*ch, who screwed up her life and everyone elses she touched, while an ugly war to establish a cohesive free nation and abolish slavery raged on the "background".

It ends when the only person in her life that ever loved her; when she finally decides to treat him like an American becuase he had finally become sucessful, the old fashiond way.. by his hard work, tells her.. "Frankly my dear I don't give a damn"..

Not becuase he didn't love her.. but becuase he knew she couldn't be trusted... and would still double cross him (again) and vote Democrat... as soon as she got what she wanted.

Some things never change.

"Freedom has a thousand charms to show
What slaves, however contented, never know."

Bill Terwilliger,
Thanks for the great link!
It's the funniest anti-US satire site I've ever seen!
I laughed so hard I thought I'd puke.

frenchfry would love it! They repeat unoriginal, rhetorical garbage just like he likes it!

Man, I thought folks quit doin' acid years ago.
I miss the hippes.
At least hippies were anti-war and not so vehemently anti-US.
Thank God this new bunch is such a small minority that for all their huffing and puffing, they just get winded.

Remember Bill, if pressed by members of the Right, just keep spouting your rote leftist rhetoric non-stop, louder and louder until they walk away in disgust. That will mean you've won.
Then you can go tell all your little friends how you really showed those fascists this time.

Please hang around. You're so much more fun than your slower friends.

Okay people, just a little time here. I'm going to ignore the gomers for now, but I've got some "smart bombs" for them later. Most of you have done very well stirring up the rage of the masses. Never forget, this is the proletariet we will one day benevelently rule. Be nice to them; be teachers, not fighters! Anyone who watches TV knows we are right. Reviews of your individual performances will be e-mailed to you by the committee.
Now here's the big news. Friday at 6 PM eastern is "Run Naked Chicken for Peace". It's actually translated from Mandarin, in that language it makes more sense but that's the best we can do. What we will all do is run out our front doors 'skyclothed' as the wiccans say, flapping our arms with thumbs tucked into armpits like chickens as we dash down our streets and into the public square of our hometowns. There we will gather and continue to be "chickens for peace" until this illegal war is stopped.
As a bonus, we've got Mike Moore scheduled to appear at the New York City rally!
See you there!

Phrog,

Good job man!

Does any of that sound familiar?

What's sad is that we're wasting our time trying to draw correlations between hollywood movies and life. The old saying...Art Imitates Life.

When people start drawing their moral fiber from movies, we're in for deep trouble. High Noon...Outland....Gone With the Wind. Who gives a hoot. It's entertainment at best. Any political/social comment is extra food for thought, however, should not be the basis of our drawing our moral lines in society.

Arch, didn't mean to pick on you...just pointing out the obvious....

Radio...new antenna attached.

Terwilliger,

arrghh ! You got me.

You have to admit though.. that discerning between, humor, satire, and serious from the left... is a LOT harder to discern. They've been so wacky for so long... we forget to do the horselaugh test sometimes... we are so used to seeing the other end of the horse. Not very often; that you actually find a Lib with a sense of humor.

On conservatism, there is no statute of limitations; but with the Left.. you have to catch them red handed in the ACT... that's how the game works.

apologies for the quizzling shot.

Gomer

Phrog,

Don't let the clever rantings of Terwilliger fool you. He's so far left, he thinks he can disguise it with the truth.

Radio.

I thought "Gone With the Wind" was an add promtion for Rolaids? Man, I gotta stop posting here the world is completely passing me by. No pun intended.

Phrog Poet - you rock...

What War?

Here's a couple:

Gandalf: "We don't choose the times we're born into, Frodo!" (Much longer Quote, completely applicable to today)
- Fellowship of the Ring

Wormtongue (to deluded pacifist leaning king of Rohan re: Gandalf): "Don't listen to this..... warmonger, sire!"
- The Two Towers

Art immitates life? No, both movies were made before Sep 2001. And from the buzz I've heard, a few people actually paid money to see them. Wonder if the anti-everything crowd gets it?

Radio,
Many movies are popular for generations after their release because they reflect some fundamental goodness of the American spirit. I know you're one of the good guys, but you've got this one slightly backwards. Popularity of movies with a message we believe in reinforces the feeling that we are not alone in our opinions.

The left wing tactic is to infer that Americans are too stupid to develop their own opinions, and instead are brainwashed by movies and other media. (CNN with it's well known right-wing bias.) This is, of course, simply them projecting their own motivations on others.

Americans have better ways to learn about the world. I, for instance, develop my opinions based on ScrappleFace!

Something I've noticed about the protests over here in San Fransisco: they are aggravating a lot of people. Such as, there was a guy who actually had to sit in traffic and convince the protesters to let him get through to HIS SON WHO WAS IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM!! this and other events like it are pissing off alot of the people here who would normally swing left. If the peacemongers keep it up...

"Art immitates life? No, both movies were made before Sep 2001"

"they reflect some fundamental goodness of the American spirit"

American movies are not Art ! They are stupid brain candy popular entertainment for brainwashed undereducated ignorant illiterate plebs.

And what of New Zealand movies, mon idiot?

Frenchie, your more recent posts indicate you've been drinking heavily, and it's much too early in Europe for that!

Tchuss

HOW TO MAKE AN ANTIWAR PROTESTOR SHUTUP

1. Slap him or her as hard as you can across the face for no reason.
2. When they ask you why you just slapped them, remind them that they want peace, a.k.a. "turn the other cheek".
3. Then slap them again, this time harder. Remind them again of september 11 and the multiple threats sent by the Iraq regime. Remind them again that they believe in peace, and tell THEM to "turn the other cheek".
4. Repeat this process until they come to their senses.
GOD BLESS YOU DAD FOR FIGHTING THIS WAR

KAE

Frenchie,
I posted this on another page incase you didn't see it:

Bush:
"There is NO distinction between terrorists and those who harbor them." (Sadaam)