in a related story,

"France, Germany, Iraq dismiss British compromise"
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c;=Article&cid;=1035779165148&call;_pageid=968332188492&col;=968793972154

the article's headline says it all, no?

Can we temporarily replace the torch with her flipping them off?

That would be great. They should all be forced to read the poem, memorize it and discuss what it means. They should truly understand it in say, 5 decades!

SHOCKING DISCOVERY FOUND INSIDE STATUE OF LIBERTY

When work crews began preparing the Statue Of Libery for transport back to France, a previously unknown secret chamber was discovered, containing the remains of several hundred Revolutionary-era French soldiers as well as an armory of cannons and muskets.

"It appears they were planning some kind of Trojan Horse stunt, but they forgot to put a doorknob on the inside so they could get out, and the exterior of the door was well hidden," a State Dept spokesman said. "We're still trying to figure out whether to laugh or be pissed off. At any rate, we're not really very surprised."

A bit off the topic, but you might find this fairly illuminating. Not sure if I agree with all of the points yet, but I certainly got me thinking - in itself a rather dangerous thing.

Found this link on Best of the Web (WSJ)

I personally believe the statue would melt down into some real nice battleship guns, a bunch of torpedoes, and maybe a really retarded dumb bomb incase we ever go to war with france.

lpb -

that's one of the best high-level discussions about what this war is REALLY all about.

check out steven den beste
http://denbeste.nu/cd_log_entries/2003/01/Supposetherewastreachery.shtml

he posted this back on 01/20/03 before all the bru-ha-ha broke loose. interesting reading.

Tom

You are all right the Statue of Liberty should be returned to France. Read the poem and you shall see it fits better to France than the US at this point.

In France no one boycotts you for having an opinion contrary to that of the majority.

GUNNING FOR SADDAM - PBS FRONTLINE
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Program #2005 Original Airdate: November 8, 2001
Written, produced and directed by Michael Kirk

On July 9, 1999 a meeting took place at Salman Pak Iraq Saddam Hussein his Son Udday Hussein and Osama Bin Laden meet together,in a camp called Unit 999, as reported during this show PBS.ORG you can order this video

Interview
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OFFICIAL RANKING IRAQ ARMY DEFECTOR
SABAH KHODADA

Q-After your service in the army, you worked for a secret part of the Iraqi government?

A-Some of it is not very secretive. But there's another part, which has a lot to do with international terrorism and this kind of operation -- this is very secretive.

Q-Maybe you could tell me what this section is called, and who runs it. And what did it do?

A-It's called the Division of Special Operations. ...UNIT 999, This whole camp where their training is run by the Iraqi [security service]... The government organization [that] basically possesses or have control of the camp is the Iraqi intelligence. But different training people who come, they are headed or sent by different people in the Iraqi government.

Q-Where is the camp located near? You could describe where it's geographically located.

A-Yes. It's southeast of Baghdad, Salmon Pak, about 25 kilometers from outside of Baghdad ... . I think the American government should have pictures of this camp from the air. I know for a fact that on January 1995, the United Nations came and took pictures of this camp. But they don't know -- neither the United Nations nor the American government -- what's going on inside this camp.

Q-But they can see the 707, or the train?

A-On a Friday, which is equivalent to Sunday here, it's a holiday, was on January 1995. They came and the United Nations inspectors visited us. They went all the way inside the camp. They saw the plane, they saw the train, and they didn't care anything about it, because the story was, they told ... his commanders told the United Nation, "This is a camp to train police, anti-riots police."

Q-And they trained people to hijack airplanes?

A-Yes.

Q-For what purpose?

A-It has been said openly in the media and even to us, from the highest command, that the purpose of establishing Saddam's fighters is to attack American targets and American interests. This is known. There's no doubt about it.

A-All this training is directed towards attacking American targets, and American interests. The training does not only include hijacking of planes and sabotage. ... Some other people were trained to do parachuting. Some other areas were training on how to penetrate enemy lines and get information from behind enemy lines. But it's all for the general concept of hitting and attacking American targets and American interests.

Q-Who controlled this operation?

A-In terms of training, they will train in this special camp. But after this training, they will go in small groups. These small groups are directly connected with Saddam, or to Saddam's son. For example, the Iraqi fighters, they will be spread all over the country. Occasionally those individual groups, very small groups, will be called for. They might encounter different kind of special training beyond this training on specific things. I'll give you an example. They were calling for some of these groups to train intensively to learn English language, Persian language, Hebrew language, to be sent out to different places of the world to conduct such kind of ... different kind of operations. I suspect that the higher level of training, or the additional training they encounter, has a lot to do with what happened. And there's a lot of similarity with what happened with New York and Washington on September 11.

Q-That was your reaction on September 11 -- that some of these people might be involved?

A-I assure you, this operation was conducted by people who were trained by Saddam. And I'm going to keep assuring the world this is what happened.
Osama bin Laden has no such capabilities.

Q-Why?

A- Because this kind of attacks must be, and has to be, organized by a capable state, such as Iraq; a state where they can provide high level of training, and they can provide high level of intelligence to do such training. How could Osama bin Laden -- who's hiding in the middle of nowhere in Afghanistan in small caves and valleys -- train people and gather information and send people to do such high-level operation? We all know this is a high-level operation. This cannot be done by a person who does not even own a plane in Afghanistan, who cannot offer such training in Afghanistan. This is definitely done by a mastermind like Saddam. ...

Q-And the camp has a 707 that they train on?

A-Yes, there's a real whole 707 plane, a whole real plane, standing in the middle of the training area in this camp.

Q-And they train people on how to get access to the cabin, to the crew?

A-Yes.

Q-And how to take over the plane using weapons? How?

A-They will get trained on how to get weapons inside the plane. If there is a security weakness that they know of, they will prefer to get weapons. But I am sure that, before the attack of September 11, those people made a very thorough study. And they learned that getting weapons into the plane might not be a very good idea. But in this camp, I saw them getting trained on this kind of situations where security will not allow you to get weapons into the plane -- then what you need to do is to use all available methods and very advanced terrorizing method.

These methods are used to terrorize the passengers and the crew of the plane. They are even trained how to use utensils for food, like forks and knives provided in the plane. ... They are trained how to plant horror within the passengers by doing such actions. Even pens and pencils can be used for that purpose they were trained. They can do it, and they can overcome any plane because they are very well physically trained, and they are very strong, and they can do it. They can overtake a plane in a very efficient manner
(hows that tom :)

I agree send it back along with a present a couple of M O A D bombs renamed BIG APPLE bombs
Bomb
IS
Gigantic

And
Packs
Pomerful
Lethal
Explosives

Joe

evil empire -

Yeah, isn't it great how France allows for dissenting views? Like that time nations petitioning to join the EU argued, "Hey, America might be right; maybe we shouldn't allow the evillest madman in the modern world to continue murdering his people just so France can keep buying his oil." Chirac's Freedom-of-Speech-Loving response: "These countries have been not very well behaved and rather reckless of the danger of aligning themselves too rapidly with the American position... It is not really responsible behavior... It is not well brought-up behavior... They missed a good opportunity to keep quiet... [Their words are] "infantile [and] dangerous... They missed a great opportunity to shut up."

And here in nasty old America, no dissent is ever tolerated, which is why your idiot compatriots were allowed to protest in the streets over and over and over again, and which is why others were even allowed to destroy private property in the name of free speech.

Rational opinions can be fun, too, EE; you should try one sometime...

-JS

HEY FRENCHMAN!

It is being reported that France signed a 60 Billion dollar contract with Iraq to develop oil production in southern Iraq. If the U.S. invades, that contract isn't worth a french...um.. freedom frie.

So, you were right the whole time!!!!
This war is about oil!!!!

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

France won't want to lose out altogether, (which will happen if they don't participate) so look for them to flip-flop very shortly..

"PLEASE BELIEVE" you loser!!!!!!!!!

Thank you logic penalty box. That was one of the most well written responses advocating a war with Iraq. I was waiting for someone of letters to post something like that.

I have renewed faith that the New-right. Right with two meanings, of course.

FRENCH OIL COMPANY:

TOTAL-FINA-ELF

$60 billion dollar deal to develope
Southern Iraqs Oil Feilds

AMERI-CAN TELL EM WHAT THEY HAVE WON

Right you are JP

FRANCE- YOU HAVE WON NOTHING.... AGAIN

Back to you JP....

YES THATS RIGHT FRANCE.....
ONCE AGIN YOUR THE BIG LOSER

YOU STILL HAVE THE BOARD.... FRECHIE

OK...UHM... NUCLEAR LOSERS FOR $300 ..JP

WHO MADE THE NUCLEAR REACTOR IN IRAQ THAT WAS BOMBED BY ISRAEL ?

WHO BUILT IT...NEED AN ANSWER FRENCHIE

OOOHH TIMES UP

THE ANSWER
THE FRENCH...THE FRENCH

What we should do is pay France for the Statue of Liberty at the next meeting of the Security Council and demand a...receipt. That is making a statement the world will hear.

"Read the poem and you shall see it fits better to France"

I think so too, specifically the part about "wretched refuse." France is filled with it now!

Pity the poor french folks.

After all, they have to live in france..

(heavy sigh)

I also understand that the tourist traffic to France will be down greatly from now..

Pity, it's always good to see how poor third-worlders live to make you appreciate how good we have it here.

Someone said that the french used to be a major world power. You know, like the Mayans.

Let not the Atom Bomb
Be the final sequel--
In which all men
Are cremated equal.

~~Kate Phelps~~

In a reaction to French attempts to prevent the incursion of foreign vocabulary in the French lexicon, the American Heritage Dictionary has anglicized the spelling of French words, and forthwith Chirac shall be spelled Cheeriraq.

We already have a copy of the statue in Paris in case you didn't know.

We don't need people like you visiting France anyway. Why would you travel since your country is so perfect and you have nothing to learn from other cultures?.
If we are so unimportant, why do you feel so frustrated about this veto business ?.

"I'm Arthur, King of the Britains. I invite you to join in our quest for the Holy Grail"
"Uhhh....no thanks, we've already got one. Yes, it's veeery niiiice."
"May we see it?"
"No, you filthy English Pig Dog. Now go away, or I will taunt you a second time!"
--Monty Python

Frogwatch, we always thought you people were funny until your Fuhrer started imitating classic comedy in the UN.

Yo Evil Empire (appropriate name for the French)you're right, the French don't boycott (he said facitiously) they just clow up McDonalds restaurants.

frog-you also have a copy at Chamont Air Base, a former US Air Force Base that was turned over to the French when you kicked the US military out of France because we were fighting your war in Indochina (Viet Nam). I went there in 1976 where the French military held a celebration of our (US) bicenttenial. They treated us very well, receptions, dinners, drinking, even was offered the girlfriend of one French officer for the night. I even have some French military apparel they gave us-after all they weren't going to wear it for anything.

If you ask the French military, they would support a war against Iraq. It isn't the French military that's they problem, its the French industialist machine, the politicians, and the weak knee'd, boys and girls who can't think for themselves. You are not only an embarrassment to human kind, you a re a disgrace to France. Of course, France has been used to being disgraced by its population for hundreds of years.

We don't need a UN resolution, we don't need your support, and we don't need your friendship. You need us.

I liked the English proposal:
- Saddam is to admit on TV that he has weapons of Mass destructions and resign before the deadline.
Yeah right!
Our Fuhrer is more funny than yours and I agree, the British also have a great sense of humour.

In re French Kulchure:

How much of the material in the Louvre was 'liberated' by French Armies in the Napoleonic Era?

Quite a bit: Venus de Milo? Others?

Darth
Do the French feel the disgrace, or even recognize when they are the butt of the entire world's jokes? Who else could have united Reps and Dems in one cause so solidly? Merci Beaucoup, M. Francais! And did everyone note Mr Chef's gallant neglect to expound further on the results of the offer of the virtuous mam'selle? You sir, are a true gentleman.
Frenchie, could Darth be your father?

I propose just a small change in the Statue of Liberty: replace the tablet with a shield and the torch with a sword.

Re:Frustration with French veto.
Simple. We'd like to have UN approval before we send Iraq back to the stone-age (a short trip), but we don't NEED it.
Of the 25 fairly large shooting wars around the world since the formation of the UN, only 3 have had "approval" from the Manhattan Monolith. All we are trying to do is enforce the Security Council Resolution that said Saddam had to disarm.

So you see, the unilateral U.S. action is totally in support of the UN. But once again we are being vilified for doing exactly what we were asked to do: be the world's policeman.

Evil Empire:

"In France no one boycotts you for having an opinion contrary to that of the majority." Thank you, Esterhazy. [You should look it up.]

That's it, evil_empire, you're going on my boycott list.

You're probably one of those "Boycott Michael Savage/MSNBC" types, who believe only special interest groups are entitled to declare boycotts and try to control public debate.

That, or perhaps one of the antiwar crowd types who argue that since the rest of the world (clearly a global majority, after all) objects to an America which pursues its national interests, we too should make our national security a low priority.

Your lefty double-think has no basis in reality or common sense. You're welcome to your opinion, but like all stupid people (such as the celebrities so out of touch with their fans that you defend) you tend overlook the exent to which you'd be better off if you just shut up.

HANDY TIP:

"Free speech" means you're entitled to speak your mind; it doesn't mean you're entitled to some magical form of immunity which shields you from the consequences of doing so.

See: Lott, Trent

--

TEXAS TO DIXIE CHICKS: DON'T COME HOME

Currently busy touring in Europe and bad-mouthing President Bush, the Dixie Chicks have kicked up a storm back in their home state of Texas. Forgetting that their actual fan base consists of Americans, and in particular, the highly patriotic breed of Americans known as country music fans, the DC's have taken the bold stance of reflexively adopting the anti-Americanism now infecting Europe.

Realizing that they now have no fans back in the U.S., the DC's have decided to remain in Europe permanently. No new band name has been announced yet, but insiders report that BLIXIE CHICKS and VICHY CHICKS top the list of possibilites.

The Statue of Liberty was a gift from the French People. We really can't blame all of them for their pinheaded government, can we? There seems to be a government change in France about every 50 years, and we're due for the next one. Maybe this time they might be truly enlightened. Or at least behave intelligently.

frog_watch:

It's precisely because your country is so insignificant in terms of world power that the veto issue is annoying. Enjoy the attention, this will be the last time France is ever given a voice in world affairs during your lifetime.

As for tourists, we send them all over the globe to scout out good countries to invade. Reports from France indicate that it's not worth the bother. Just a bunch of preening Eurotrash who compensate for not having any real clout by living in a fantasy world where vanity and blather distract attention from a sad cultural decline.

How about this? We drape the Statue of Liberty in pink, replace the torch with a wedge of Brie, and lay a discarded rifle at the feet. After all, as Mick Jagger once said, "If they can't take a joke, ----'em".

How about this? We drape the Statue of Liberty in pink, replace the torch with a wedge of Brie, and lay a discarded rifle at the feet. After all, as Mick Jagger once said, "If they can't take a joke, ----'em".

To George the Poet

Emma Lazarus was born to Moses and Esther Nathan Lazarus in New York City on July 22, 1849.

She was well educated and by age 25 was a published poet and author.

So I can say that, according to your definition, she was a whore.

To greyhawk

"Do the French feel the disgrace, or even recognize when they are the butt of the entire world's jokes?"

Answer: The butt of the entire world's jokes is G W BUSH !

I heard that some people are boycoting products made in France and I would like to join this movement.WE ALL SHOULD.What I would like to find is a list of these products.If anyone has this list,maybe you could post it here.Also,the next time that you meet someone from France ask them a question for me.Ask them if they speak German.When they say no,say,''you are welcome''.

Francoise, Herr Frosch,
Such a wonderful enlightened discussion we were having, then you took a cheap shot. Next I will respond and then you, true to your Gallic nature, will surrender. So I'm not giving you anything other then a repeat of a previous post from another thread (and I know your massive intellect will prevent your surrender, right?)
From yesterday:
Has anybody noticed that in this go-round satire is used by the conservative side, while feeble jokes and slogans (see Angry above or the equally compelling "Buck Fush" - that's convincing!) seem to be the main heavy artillery of the more pompous liberal establishment. (Political satire, Mr Angry, requires a target that in a way invites the attack due to the ridiculous nature of their position. This is why your side can't use it in this current situation. This might be the real reason you are Angry. Note "Bush is a big fat dummy" is not satire) How the brightest of the left must wince in pain when seeing clearly the truth between the lines of every "news" story here. Keep going Scott, you're in what we in my business call a target rich environment. Keep the faith people!

To Greyhawk

1)Bush IS a dummy.

2)Bush IS the butt of the entire world's jokes !

Camie go to www.francestinks.com where you will find a list of French companies and products.

camie, there is a post somewhere on here that addresses your request. You may have to search a bit to find it, but you may enjoy the search.

Herr Frosch, I'll bet you an euro I know a little bit more of the world, past present, and future then you would even like to, my friend. And your last post is the equivalent of the International Schoolyard chant "naa naa naa boo boo". I accept your surrender, report immediately to Elba!

Darth,
Electronic high five me, bro!

No, I really think we need to keep the Statue. It's been the signpost for countless generations of future Americans, and despite whatever disagreement we have with those who offered it, it's ours now.

Lady Liberty has born a tablet that contains one of the purest distillations of the promise our country represents that has ever been written. We can't let it go now.

Christ was crucified, and the cross became his symbol.

America has been betrayed by the French, and their gift should serve as an example of how others can live up to ideals that the French have abandoned.

Dear Greyhawk,

My answer was everything but a surrender.

It was dictated only by the following consideration:

I would be dishonest if I did not expressly inform you that the entire planet is making fun of BUSH !

Greyhawk, you got it-high five-twice.

Frenchman - the french are the joke of Bush's butt

Frenchtoast is so much fun to have around. GW Bush is the butt of all jokes! Wow, what a revelation! I mean, Dominique de Villepin (who is a man) never gets made fun of. And Chiraq. Nope, no jokes about him either.

Le premier ministre est stupide.

I said it, it must make it so!

We could give it to 'em. After all, when we're done with Iraq we move on to france and we'll have OUR precious icon back. Then we'll sell their stupid tower for war reparations and make them pay for post-war reconstruction! Oh, and first order of business after we occupy france is to shut down their stinky cheese factories!

Food for thought (a break from your diet of snails)
The majority of Americans don't know who Dominique de Villepin (who is a man) is. Again, this is a fact. Stupid? No, just don't care about things that really won't matter in three weeks. GW Bush, (get ready, here comes a fact not an opinion) is the most powerful man in the world. (Now I switch seamlessly to theory) This is why jokes are made of him, it's a way for the primitive nations to suppress their fear.

Here's some of the stupid french companies to avoid, should you feel so inclined.

Chanel

Clarins

Dannon

Evian

Loreal

Louis Vuitton

Moet

Remy

Yves Saint Laurent

I just read a terrific news piece by Joel Siegal from the New York Daily News. It was a report on a speech that Clinton gave in which he indicted President Bush for destroying the economy with his tax cut and failing in his policy for foreign relations. This reminds me of the guy who killed his parents and then sued their estate because they abandoned him. Wasn't it Clinton who raised taxes as his first official act, then rented out the Lincoln Bedroom for campaign cash? Didn't he allow weapons inspectors to be ejected from Iraq, thus giving Hussein free reign to build his stock of WMD? Wasn't it Clinton who sold the ability to make nuclear weapons to the North Koreans in return for campaign cash? I guess, if you look at the whole situation realistically, you could say that cleaning up the Clinton messes has occupied pretty much of the current president's time. The tax cut that Clinton rails about has not even kicked in, and won't for several years. It's pretty easy to see why Clinton lost his license to practice law - even other lawyers dislike someone who is a bigger liar than they are.

I've been boycotting those for years spookster, and didn't even know it. Please don't forget Universal Vivendi. But everyone may want to check their website before signing on for the boycott. Whatever, the French economy will likely crumble after Iraq. (But we'd best keep an eye on who they may replace that partner with!) This is one possible explanation for chiraq's bizarre behavior (late stage syphillus is another). Why else destroy the UN and probably the EU? Will France have veto power in the next group we form? Or will they form...."The French Club?"

Q: What do you call a Frenchman advancing on Baghdad?

A: A salesman

Frenchie'

"the entire planet is making fun of BUSH !"

When you say "entire planet", you really mean France, right?

Spookster, don't forget Michelin Tires, and Motel 6. To Frenchy, when the U.S. finds out how France has enabled Saddam with WMD, it's not entirely out of the question that Paris may receive a bombing run! After all the MAN you think you can make light of,GWB, said it best, "If you fund a terrorist, you WILL BE treated like a terrorist!" I wonder if you will smell any better once you have been french-fried? HA HA!!

3/14/30 Times Online: "It's Your Mess"

..."Capping French glory was the news yesterday that babies in the Arab world were being named "Chirac" in tribute to the "peace-warrior" president. In 1990 they were being called Saddam and more recently, Osama."

That's actual factual news not "fairly unbalanced".

www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-610210,00.html

[Editor's Note: Post deleted by editor. If you want the widest possible audience for your ideas, please refrain from using obscenities.]

"No, I really think we need to keep the Statue. It's been the signpost for countless generations of future Americans, and despite whatever disagreement we have with those who offered it, it's ours now."

Posted by: datarat

Datarat, I agree - like many of immigrant origin Lady Liberty is fully Americanized now, and I'm sure she wouldn't want to go back to gaze on the disgraceful manipulations of her former countrymen.

One of the great political cartoons in the immediate aftermath of 9-11 was Jim Borgman's of the Statue sobbing in grief as the devestation of the Twin Towers swirled about her. No other national icon would have been as effective, both from its iconographic signifcance as well as its physical proximity to WTC.

Frenchie...(API) Paris-France announced today that it plans to ban fireworks at EuroDisney, following last nights display that caused soldiers at a nearby army garrison to surrender!

Add to the list- ANY & ALL wine imported to this country...California or Australian just fine.

Traveling Soldier,
Didn't you know that Frenchman is Omnipresent, he is nowhere, but everywhere. That is how he magicaly knows that "everyone" is making fun of him...

We should really keep the statue of liberty because it was presented as a gift. I see it as a gift for our influence on the French. Their citizens saw how successful our revolution was and they got the bright idea to have one of their own. So, I see it as a gift from that generation for the freedom they enjoyed from our example. They have since thrown those ideas in the garbage, but hey, we haven't and we will still continue to see Lady Liberty as a symbol of freedom.

Gary,
Edouard de Laboulaye, a frech sculptor came up with the idea. he raised $400,000 in Franch for the stature and another $287,000 in America for the base. So we can say that we partially payed for it so it wasn't entirely a gift from them.

"Thank you logicpenaltybox. That was one of the most well written responses advocating a war with Iraq." I agree with you Yo Mo Booba - logicpenaltybox came up with a dandy read there! I especially agree because the thought of "paying them for what we could have taken" was the right thing for a world power/leader to do. Little did we realize at the time that they wanted to emulate us, only the 3rd world countries mistakenly assumed that our mighty weapons and defensive strength got us where we are, and did not take into account our progressive social thinking and drive for individual freedom.
" ...a report on a speech that Clinton gave in which he indicted President Bush for destroying the economy with his tax cut..." Flawed thinking prevails with Clinton, eh Joseph? How about Clinton's new claim that he wants to see a future where the US is not the dominant superpower in this world? If he wants to live in a country that's not the dominant superpower in this world, that would be easy - Clinton should just move anywhere else in this world! At least the rest of the country would be happy...

Think about Justin's last post...
We paid for the base, much like we have paid for the basis of what She (Lady Liberty) stands for.
Face it, without American freedom, the EU wouldn't be free.
I vote to keep the statue and never forget what she, as well as America, stands for...Liberty and Freedom.

I think we should de-Americanize France and Germany, and return them to the state we found them immediately after WW2. Of course, this will mean reducing most of their major cities to rubble, but at least they won't have to put up with us vulgar American cowboys anymore.

I'm glad the Statue of Liberty does not have hairy armpits like most french women !

Harrison Parker your wit has me rolling on my dining room floor....thanks I needed the laugh ....I also agree with you and many others especially about Slick Willy and his unamerican comments.

When the statue was being moved, prior to it's return, workers found that the head of 'Lady Liberty' unscrewed. Turns out, the statue is actually a giant empty liquor bottle!

TO FRENCHMAN:

In about 78 hours we will see who is laughing and who is a joke,
Dear frenchman you have lost your touch...

You must know that what ever the outcome if something should come to harm France do you really think America would not come to your defense?

This conversation has been the greatest read!...The wit is outstanding...

Now, for where to find a list of French companies to Boycott, Check out

http://www.billoreilly.com/index.jsp

You speak the truth, nyny...

The French have stabbed us in the back, but we Americans have always felt sorry for the underdog..

That is one of the things that makes us stand out above the rest...

"Anybody here...
Seen my old friend Frenchie,
Can you tell me where he's gone?..."

"Anybody here...
Seen my old friend Frenchie,
Can you tell me where he's gone?..."
Posted by: Ameri-can on March 15, 2003 12:39 AM
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NOW I WILL NEVER GET THAT SONG OUT OF MY HEAD
HAAAAAAA :D

A Frenchman up there seems to be getting excited at some comments about that country he cherishes above all others. He naively believes that President Bush is centstage taking the flak from the whole world.
Easy to understand, my fellow countrymen ARE THE WORLD and of course THEY ARE ALWAYS RIGHT because they are THE BEST!
This French arrogance is a pain.
Why did God choose to let me see the light of day in that country? can't help thinking I'm going to turn into an asylum seeker some time soon. Won't need a compass to find my way.

By the way, all those among you who keep wondering why the planes hit the WTC and not the Statue of Liberty, haven't you got a little clue by now?

Victor (that name sure has a familiar ring to it. The dimwit I have cannot figure what relation it has to war. Some Frenchman with his supreme intelligence might help me out. Don't bother folks, I'm surrounded by them and I'll have no trouble finding one who will lean over backwards for the privilege of lecturing me)

Why should the French visit us? After all they have the "Awful Tower" to look at, unless of course it is a smoggy day or it is obscured by some drooling, ranting, leftest protest(a daily event) over having to use toilet paper instead of Le Monde"

"Freedom fries" and the boycott of French products...
you sound like frustrated children.

Evian is half owned by Coca-cola.
Total-elf-fina and many of the above French companies are partly owned by US pension funds.

nyah nyah [sticking tongue out at you] frogwatch

i'm busy now, can i ignore you later?

Ameri-can
You asked "Where's the Frenchman?" He is banished to Elba. This is one of the places Frenchmen go after they surrender.

ps
frogwatch...
corporate pensions fund holders are now reviewing all holdings reguarding the co-mingling of usa -french -iraq companys dropping them like fly's

je comprend parfaitement la colere de l'amerique de vouloir rendre la statue de la libertÈ a la france, mÍme si elle a fier allure dans le port de new york, pas de prÈcipitation je vous prie...!

(au dÈpart elle Ètait prÈvu pour l'egypte...)

la fayette

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http://www.bartholdi2004.com/

En 1865, lors d'une conversation, Bartholdi entend l'idÈe que la France devrait offrir aux Etats-Unis d'AmÈrique un cadeau pour fÍter le centenaire de l'indÈpendance, ce cadeau, Bartholdi en deviendra le crÈateur.

Vers 1867-1868, alors que le canal de Suez se dessine, il rÈalise la maquette d'un phare monumental, ‡ l'image de l'ancienne Egypte, ce projet destinÈ a Ítre placÈ ‡ l'entrÈe du canal ne sera pas rÈalisÈ mais donnera naissance ‡ la Statue de la LibertÈ actuelle...

Sorry, la fayette, you're speaking to an international audience here. Use English, French is reserved for France, Quebec, portions of Louisiana, and boring high school classes.
Heck, use Spanish, por favor.

sorry friend, it’s voluntarily that I wrote in French, because Bartholdi was French and I tried to defend his idea of size of spirit.

to be increasingly more intelligent than its enemy... but for me your are not my enemy !

hasta luego amigo !!!

la fayette

ps: French is reserved for France, Quebec, portions of Louisiana, and boring high school classes + Terre-Neuve and Labrador...

;-)

Continuons a parler Francais et ‡ boycoter l'Anglais, il n'y a rien qu'y Ènerve plus ces idiots.

De toute facon,Ils ont maintenant perdu leurs effort diplomatique ‡ l'ONU et l'opinion mondiale est contre eux.

Durn, thought I covered all the spots on the world where they use French.
Muchos gracias, senor.

Vive le President Chirac!
Vive le General De Gaulle!
Vive la France!

frenchman,
vous me fatiguez avec vos "vive ......."

pour moi, il y a pas de quoi Ítre fier avec
vos cocoricos... on en reparlera dans quelques
temps!!!

:(

ps : en tout les cas, pas VIVE vous...

Frenchman:

Vive le WHERE THE HELL DO YOU LIVE, BOY?

The guy who waited on me last night at a restaurant was French and he told me that 90% of French hate Chirac.

I listened to him while making him get me more water every six seconds, letting him pick my napkin up from the floor every minute, and, after I ran up a 150 dollar tab and left my table a complete disaster area, I left him NO TIP.

Actually, on the line of the bill where it said 'TIP', I wrote:

"Don't [urinate] on a flat rock"

There's a tip for ya.

Love ya, Frenchie - KABOOOOOOOM!!!!!!

Frogman , la grenouille de mes fesses. If you're so proud of being French, try to get your spelling right:

You wrote:
De toute facon,Ils ont maintenant perdu leurs effort diplomatique ‡ l'ONU et l'opinion mondiale est contre eux.

How about:
De toute faÁon, ils ont maintenant perdu leurs efforts diplomatiques ‡ l'ONU et l'opinion mondiale est contre eux.

This being said one does not "lose" an effort.

As for the rest, wishful thinking, no more.

Waow, major difference there...

Thank you for repeating my words again and again.

la grenouille alias froggie

YAWNNNNN!!!!

The chips are down. You're out of arguments.
Give us a break!

Dominique deVillepin on FOX NEWS right now....

"France is shocked and upset that we are being blamed for this..... " (speaking in an angry voice)

So ? What's your point?

A few friends of mine that are sick of French political views and people that are aginst our president and are putting up a list of companys and celebratys to boycott. The list is attached, if you have any to add please email them to me at enorym@aaahawk.com.

Thank you,
Myrone

Shop smart and dont support the Following companys and people.
Impeach Chirac

Technical Gas companys such as:
Air Liquide

Hotel's such as:
Accor
Piast

Oil companys and gas stations such as:
Total Fina
Elf Aquitaine

Car companys and manufactuers such as:
Renaut
Peugot
Citroen

French wines such as:
Bordeaux
chateaux
Domaine Capmartin
Chateau du Cedre
Domaine Vigne
Domaine Baudare
Bergerac Rouge
Domaine des Chaberts
Domaine Bru Bache
Domaine Capmartin
Domaine Castera
Domaine de Guillon
Domaine Vigne-Lourac Prestige Sauvignon
Chateau Vigne-Lourac
Domaine de Laulan Sauvignon
Domaine de Laulan
Bergerac Blanc
Domaine Vigne-Lourac Mauzac-Sauvignon
Domaine des Chaberts

French Music and artists such as:
Alain Souchon
Carla Bruni
CÈline Dion
Charles Aznavour
Charles Trenet
Claude FranÁois
Claude Nougaro
Daniel Balavoine
David Hallyday
Eddy Mitchell
Edith Piaf
Etienne Daho
Florent Pagny
Francis Cabrel
Garou
Georges Brassens
Gerald de Palmas
HÈlËne SÈgara
Henri Salvador
Hugues Aufray
Indochine
Isabelle Boulay
Jacques Brel
Jacques Dutronc
Jacques PrÈvert
Jean Jacques Goldman
Jean-Louis Aubert
Joe Dassin
Johnny Hallyday
Julien Clerc
Julio Iglesias
Lara Fabian
Lynda Lemay
Manu Chao
Maurane
Maxime Le Forestier
Michel Berger
Michel Delpech
Michel Fugain
Michel Jonasz
Michel Polnareff
Michel Sardou
Mylene Farmer
Natasha Saint-Pier
Pascal Obispo
Patricia Kaas
Patrick Bruel
Pierre Perret
Renaud
Richard Cocciante
Sacha Distel
Serge Gainsbourg
Stephan Eicher
Thomas Fersen
Tri Yann
William Sheller
Yann Tiersen
Yannick Noah
Yves Duteil
Zazie
Zebda

that list is woeful, you gleem it from encarta or something?

woeful

still laughing too hard @ julio iglesias.

pure comedy

Yo creo que ha sido una terrifica idea de correr al fin al estupido de hussein de Irak y yo apruebo total mente las acciones de Estados Unidos y Bretana y a todos los Franceses pues que son una bola de rajones y traicioneros por que despues que los Americanos le ayudaron tanto ahora se voltean en contra son mal agradecidos y jotones!!!

Think about it! Did France really do anything bad to us back in history?? No, they helped us win the war with France. Without them, we may still be under Britian's power. Immigrants traveled from all over the world coming here each and every day and if they traveled by boat to Liberty Island, seeing the Statue of Liberty would give them great joy and make them think 'Was this worth the trip? was all this worth coming just for freedom, leaving my job, my friends and family' and later on, when they look at the Statue of Liberty once more, a little closer this time, looking at the tablet that signed our independence from Great Britian( with a lot of help from France) they would think 'Yes, this was worth the trip for freedom.' So are we just going to let a stupid war with Iraq send back Liberty Enlightening the World????? NO!

"To Frenchy, when the U.S. finds out how France has enabled Saddam with WMD, it's not entirely out of the question that Paris may receive a bombing run! After all the MAN you think you can make light of,GWB, said it best, "If you fund a terrorist, you WILL BE treated like a terrorist!" I wonder if you will smell any better once you have been french-fried? HA HA!!"

so where ares the FRENCH WMD? the Iraq terrorists?
in this story, the USA was defeated politicly at world stage, diplomaticly at UN stage and military will follow, now iraq can grow up a new islamists country, the us troops fough a medieval army and screamed triumph , lol, what a great army, they killed more british troops than iraqies lol, tadays france win 2-0, and next 3-0.

as the monkeys surrender never surrended and never will do it, illusion will go away; and USA is the most hated country trhough the world, France had courage to defend his positions "to allow UN inspectors to do their job, because there ares no danger with iraq" till they can't and france will use force only if they can't!

USA did it alonne, Saddam is gone, and iraqies don't see the difference, now they ares under occupation of the shame of humanity, the oil racketters, it's alway a big joke, as the 60billions iraq promesses to France in the 80's to paye their debts allowing french compagnies to get oil, for 20 years the french and ohers don't trust iraq promesses, but stupid americans beleive Bush BS, i was enjoying my 9/11 show video tape yesterday, we was laughing all that poor US peoples ares so arrogants, in africa in one year more than 5 millions peoples dies because foods, the yanks ares so woonded that they forget when they was selling to nazis the meterials to invade europe and building comcentration camps in poland, what did the european was thinking about the traitors yanks?

in 1792, 1914, 1939, the USA signed the awfull neutrality pact with the shame of humanity, what will france could expect about a cowards ally as USA?

as about if we could speak germans while 4 years of half metro france occupation, France was spreading his empire along the world, and 100 years of french families ruling england occupation in france never made us "speaking english" a poor language without relief, that everyone could speak easily to buy a beer!lol!

USA saved us, my [], ya, the russian turned the WWII into victory, not the yanks.

it's time to learn more history books, algerian wars was won militarily, the vietnam? we saved the south as you did in korea, but the most powerfull army lost the south, oh my dear, my g*d, against poor viet farmer under armed!
today the US is a shit economy, a decadent culture and a Army able to fight medieval armies "u know with horses"...

Personally i like to see the twin towers collapsing, the greatest show of 2001, lol ha ha ha ha ha ha...

Never come back in france, you don't deserve it!

as miss liberty, get us back, she have to do with liberty, equality, universal values, Things that USA is no more the "belongers"

It is just like Americans to feel they can speak for the entire world...whats this about France being the butt of the entire worlds jokes? If people could stop obsessing abou the trivialness of upreeting a fine Statue and hauling it across the atlantic maybe the bigger issue could be dealt with. How about we stop behaving like injured little babies and allow the diversities of other cultures (yes this includes france) to remain in America! or better still recognise why such emotion is involved when looking at French-American relations! just a thought