Let history remember these days as the height of our great Civilization... it's all down hill from here.

"Men are qualified for civil liberty in exact proportion to their disposition to put moral chains upon their own appetites; in proportion as their love of justice is above their rapacity; in proportion as their soundness and sobriety of understanding is above their vanity and presumption; in proportion as they are more disposed to listen to the counsels of the wise and good, in preference to the flattery of knaves."
~~Edmund Burke~~ ( i think it was )

What are we to do, oh what are we to do?... The French disapprove, we are at odds with the world, even our own celebrities are in dissent, and the Liberals are outraged and concerned, oh what are we to do?

Moooie my man!!!!!!!!!
What would a middle east crisis be without the muammar man. Dude, you are da bomb!!!!!

The three stooges for the new millenium: Moo, Yassy and Saddy. Nyuck, Nyuck, Nyuck. woo woowoowooowooowoooowooo. ahhhrufff ahhhruuuf.

Here's a spunky little opinion piece from the Arab News, proclaiming President Bush "The Smartest Man In The World"

http://www.arabnews.com/Article.asp?ID=23588

Yes, it is a bit tongue-in-cheek, but I detect an element of respect as well, albeit of the resentful kind. That will do just fine though.

What peaceniks generally fail to see is that the cornerstone to peace is in fact power, and a perceived willingness to use it when necessary.
Foreign resentment of America is unavoidable -- just like home, we will always have critics, whiners, and plaintiffs abroad -- but the best way to keep that in check is to leave no doubt that choosing to become an enemy of America will result in a thorough clubbing.

As long it's tempered with respect, resentment is hardly a foreign policy failure. A doctrine of peace through superior power, however, doesn't work if there's even a remote chance that retaliation can somehow be avoided, such as by slippery diplomacy, U.N. charades, and the like.

A lot of folks around the world seem to think we're interested in doing some empire building. We know better, but letting them believe that might not be a bad idea. Yeah, they'll bluster about it, but all we need to do is make it clear that is the maximum they can get away with. Coupled with the option of mutually beneficial trading relations with everyone we deem friendly, and there just isn't much incentive for any but the fanatical to threaten us (and they need a good clubbing anyway).

Partly for fun, partly in the interest of projecting power, but mostly to dismay lefties, we should call the Iraq phase of the war on terrorism something like OPERATION IMPERIAL DAWN
or OPERATION GLOBAL DOMINION ...

Yeah, there'd be a lot of howling -- but also a LOT of respect.

"What are we to do you ask?" said PhrogPoet..well for one thing QUIT inserting the French language. My father and mother in the 80ies went to France. My Dad could read, write and spoke French, they also had MONEY, yet they still were treated rudely by the French for 2 weeks. I promised never to learn French much less go there....sooo I'm with Wizegoi (that is, what ever he said)

but..but but... an old old lady ?

The French have so many discriptive words like:

traitor, compromise, vascillate, satiate, villian, despot, fatigue, waterloo, torture, prostitute, execute etc...

is surrender a French word?

Maybe you are right.. we should expunge the words too.

For reasons lost to history I took French in high school and college [I live in Texas...go figger?].
Strangely the only time I had occasion to use it was in Vietnam, during the late war, which for the most part we got involved in, in a mis-directed attempt to help France recapture part their old empire.

I have vowed to forget everyword of French I knew.

Montgomery Burns said it best, (after he sold his nuclear power plant to the Germans, then bought it back, at half price), "Ooooh the Germans are mad at me, I'm sooooooo scared! ---Please don't hurt me!" Feel free to omit German and insert, Libians, French, Weasle's, etc.

Gang Attacks Jail with Bazooka, Frees Inmate
Wed March 12, 2003 08:08 AM ET

PARIS (Reuters) - A commando-style gang used a bazooka to blow its way into a prison near Paris and free one of the inmates in a pre-dawn raid on Wednesday, officials said.
The gang of four or five men machine-gunned watchtowers at the prison, in Fresnes to the east of the French capital and near Disneyland Paris, before rushing inside to the cell of Antonio Ferrara, who was serving time for organized crime.

"The commando gang entered the high-security section of the prison and gave Antonio Ferrara explosives which allowed him to blow open the bars on the window of his cell," said Christophe Marques, a prison officers' representative from the FO union.

The gang then left together by car. No one was injured.

Television pictures showed a hole blown in a door to the prison and burned out cars lining streets nearby

French forces surrendered immediately to the gang.

In the words of the great philosophical group, Metalica: "To ensure peace, is to prepare for war."

We keep ourselves strong, embarass the crap out of a nation every 10 years to keep all the others in check and refuse trade with anyone who opposes us or classifies us as an enemy. Problem solved!

Keith, we could only have such a good operation name like that, but it might offend some religious group and we will have to change it, just like they did for the operation against the Taliban. I loved the name infinite justice, but only Alah can give that (of course we could speed up the meeting...)

Let me talk mano a mano to Kadhafi and I will show him irrational, plus down with all the jerks who makes my president cry!

Keith, when Germany became one of the largest empires ever in existence and the second reicht controlled the entire Europe and Northern Africa too, did you respect them? When Japan attacked Pearl Harbor did you respect them, or did you fear for the day when the kamikazi planes wouldn't destroy ships, but Boeing instead? The only reason America would get respect is because of fear; fear that if Uncle Sam isn't respected, he will backhand you until you wish you respected him. This is why one learns respect in prison. It is fear, and i do not like the feeling i get when others fear me. It makes me sick.

I shed a tear for our poor angry liberal. Especially now that I know he's spent time as someone's prison b***h. How I wish he were a happy liberal! Here's a thought to cheer you sir. At first, when I saw the big cloud our new 21,000 pound bomb made, I thought, "well this won't help our nation's peaceful image one bit, will it?" Then I realized the message wasn't intended for little Saddam alone, know what I mean? So maybe it doesn't hurt to remind all our neighbors (without hurting anything other then their feelings this time) that "yea though we walk through the valley of shadow, we shall fear no evil, cause we are the meanest som' b***h in the valley!" Cheer up, libby!

Le PrÈsident des Etats-Unis, George Bush, a pleurÈ aujourd'hui quand il a appris que Muammar Kadhafi a dit qu'il Ètait "parfaitement irrationnel."...dixit

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faut pas pleurer de rires georges, il faut
lui botter le "cul" a lui aussi, comme Áa
il deviendra peut Ítre rationnel et intelligent.
(ce dont je doute vraiment !)

bye georges B. , amitiÈs de La Fayette.
;-)

Liberal, I don't believe any of us were alive in the First World War. I know you weren't, moronic young person. Stop polluting our site with your liberal junk.

The last time I checked, nobody really LEARNS anything in prison, other than how to commit crimes better and without getting caught. That's standard. You put a bunch of criminals together in the same place and they start collaborating.
I must now give credit to the great nation of Australia, for even though they started out as the world's worst, they have the intelligence and logic necessary to realize the certain truth that this war on terror is necessary, and they back us, too.
And back to prison, where's the fear? You have the fear probably due to you being a little guy and all of the stories you've heard about prison. Good. That's what it's there for. Unfortunately, not everyone is as afraid of prison as you are. In fact, there are people on death row in California dying of old age. I repeat. Dying of OLD AGE ON DEATH ROW. Where's the justice for the victim's? They don't have rights? Who's rights are more important then? The criminals or the innocent people who ACTUALLY respect the law??? It's like gun laws. Are gun laws designed to work? Or are they just stronger punishment IF you get caught? The gun laws don't apply to criminals who have the illegal weapons in the first place. Any laws on guns ONLY go after the, again, law-abiding citizens. Adolph Hitler himself was proud that the Germans were the first "civilized" nation to be able to do away with guns. That was 1939, I believe.
Back to prison. We, as taxpayers (not sure if angry_liberal IS a tax payer yet) pay between 30-80 thousand dollars per year supporting the lives of these criminals, who, obviously, don't care about any laws we can make. I don't know how much Angry-Liberal makes (Again, IF he has a job) per year, but I know the majority of people 18-25 do not make any money within that bracket.
Overall point is, One does NOT learn respect in prison. Either they fear you, or you're meat. Either you're the pie-molestor or you're the pie. No respect.

Dusty.

Grayhawk,
everyone has to learn to fear the reaper.

I read an article posted by a very liberal writer in England and he basicaly stated that he was amazed at the restraint that we have showed as a nation. We could've just gone hog wild and bombed the crap out of everything, but we didn't. We tried to convince the world that this is a global war on terror, but we have had the door slammed in our face.

I think it is high time to do what is right and to hell with the rest, they will fall into line sooner or later.

BTW, the countries that don't help should fear the effects on their economies, not us coming over to smack them into line. An example is the Turkish stock market that dropped 11% after the news broke that they would not take our troops and receive and aid package. Their choice, their problem.

Dusty-
The one thing they learn in prison cannot be repeated here.

Justin
Barksdale Air Force Base, Sep 11, 2001. The President of the US addresses a shocked world. On the runway, wingtip to wingtip, the B52 fleet sits, fueled and loaded. Think about it. The first thing he saw when he got there and the last when he left, firepower the likes of which few can imagine, and his finger on the "trigger". The images of the fallen towers, a smoking hole in the Pentagon, and a crater in Pennsylvania fresh in everyone's mind. Shock and quiet rage prevail nationwide. Restraint? You better believe it, and thank God (and I mean it, thank God) the right man was in charge. Rush to war? Not then, not now, not ever. Let's roll.

To Justin

You said "this is a global war on terror"

Global : Of, relating to, or involving the entire earth; worldwide.

Terror : Intense, overpowering fear.

This does not make sense.

Greyhawk: The following was shared with me and I'm glad to share with all of you.

Subject: Message from England

[No matter what your views on President Bush's statement of upcoming war, this, from an English journalist, is very interesting. Just a word of background for those of you who aren't familiar with the UK's Daily Mirror. This is a notoriously left-wing daily that is normally not supportive of the Colonials across the Atlantic.]

Tony Parsons ... Daily Mirror ... September 11, 2002

One year ago, the world witnessed a unique kind of broadcasting -- the mass murder of thousands, live on television. As a lesson in the pitiless cruelty of the human race, September 11 was up there with Pol Pot's Mountain of Skulls in Cambodia, or the skeletal bodies stacked like garbage in the Nazi concentration camps.

An unspeakable act so cruel, so calculated and so utterly merciless that surely the world could agree on one thing - nobody deserves this fate. Surely there could be consensus: The victims were truly innocent, the perpetrators truly evil.

But to the world's eternal shame, 9/11 is increasingly seen as America's comeuppance. Incredibly, anti-Americanism has increased over the last year.

There has always been a simmering resentment to the USA in this country; too loud, too rich, too full of themselves, and so much happier than Europeans - but it has become an epidemic. And it seems incredible to me. More than that, it turns my stomach.

America is this country's greatest friend and our staunchest ally. We are bonded to the US by culture, language and blood. A little over half a century ago, around half a million Americans died for our freedoms, as well as their own. Have we forgotten so soon? And exactly a year ago, thousands of ordinary men, women and children -- not just Americans, but! from dozens of countries -- were butchered by a small group of religious fanatics. Are we so quick to betray them?

What touched the heart about those who died in the Twin Towers and on the planes, was that we recognized them. Young fathers and mothers, somebody's son and somebody's daughter, husbands, wives, and children, some unborn.

And these people brought it on themselves? Their nation is to blame for their meticulously planned slaughter?

These days you don't have to be some dust-encrusted nut job in Kabul or Karachi or Finsbury Park to see America as the Great Satan. The anti-American alliance is made up of self-loathing liberals who blame the Americans for every ill in the Third World, and conservatives suffering from power-envy, bitter that the world's only superpower can do what it likes without having to ask permission.

The! truth is that America has behaved with enormous restraint since September 11.

Remember ... remember ... remember ... the gut-wrenching tapes of weeping men phoning their wives to say, "I love you," before they were burned alive.

Remember those people leaping to their deaths from the top of burning skyscrapers. Remember the hundreds of firemen buried alive.

Remember the smiling face of that beautiful little girl who was on one of the planes with her mum.

and remember.....remember.

And realize that America has never retaliated for 9/11 in anything like the way it could have.

So a few al-Qaeda tourists got locked up without a trial in Camp X-ray? Pass the Kleenex ...

So some Afghan wedding receptions were ! shot up after they merrily fired their semi-automatics in a sky full of American planes? A shame, but maybe next time they should stick to confetti.

AMERICA could have turned a large chunk of the world into a parking lot. That it didn't is a sign of strength. American voices are already being raised against attacking Iraq -- that's what a democracy is for. How many in the Islamic world will have a minute's silence for the slaughtered innocents of 9/11? How many Islamic leaders will have the guts to say that the mass murder of 9/11 was an abomination?

When the news of 9/11 broke on the West Bank, those freedom-loving Palestinians were dancing in the street. America watched all of that -- and didn't push the button. We should thank the stars that America is the most powerful nation in the world. I still find it incredible that 9/11 did not provoke all-out war. Not a "war on terrorism." A real war!

The fundamentalist dudes are talking about "opening the gates of hell" if America attacks Iraq. Well, America could have opened the gates of hell like you wouldn't believe.

The US is the most militarily powerful nation that ever strode the face of the earth. The campaign in Afghanistan may have been less than perfect and the planned war on Iraq may be misconceived.

But don't blame America for not bringing peace and light to these wretched countries. How many democracies are there in the Middle East, or in the Muslim world? You can count them on the fingers of one hand -- assuming you haven't had any chopped off for minor shoplifting.

I love America, yet America is hated. I guess that makes me Bush's poodle.

But I would rather be a dog in New York City than a Prince in Riyadh. Above all, America is hated because it is what every country wants to be -- rich, free, strong, open, optimistic. Not ground down by the past, or religion, or some caste system. America is the best friend this country ever had and we should start remembering that.

Or do you really think the USA is the root of all evil? Tell it to the loved ones of the men and women who leaped to their death from the burning towers.

Tell it to the nursing mothers whose husbands died on one of the hijacked planes, or were ripped apart in a collapsing skyscraper. And tell it to the hundreds of young widows whose husbands worked for the New York Fire Department.

To our shame, George Bush gets a worse press than Saddam Hussein. Once we were told that Saddam gassed the Kurds, tortured his own people and set up rape-camps in Kuwait. Now we are told he likes Quality Street. Save me the orange center, Oh Mighty One!

Remember ... remember ... September 11. One of the greatest atrocities in human history was committed against America.

No, do more than remember. Never forget...

Thank you, Tony Parsons, for this message of support.

To Tony Parsons,

To AHA,

To All,

Was Saddam Hussein involved in the September 11 attacks?

Dunno. Why d'ya ask?

Wallace,

Answer me this: Does Saddam support terrorism by paying the people who send their children to blow up at a bus stop? Don't they get like $25,000??? Isn't that like winning the lottery over there????

What's your point?

Dusty.

Momar added: "Bush ought to follow the example of the United Nations and make rational moves such as putting my country in charge of the Human Rights Commission and letting Iraq take its turn leading the Disarmament Panel."

Go away Angry_Liberal. No one likes you.

Frenchie...

Global= Outside of France
Terror= What happens when you open your eyes.

does that help ?

To Dusty

"Answer me this: Does Saddam support terrorism by paying the people who send their children to blow up at a bus stop? Don't they get like $25,000??? Isn't that like winning the lottery over there????"

I answer that the Palestinians shoud not be lumped with OSB's Talibans. You are confusing the matters to try to justify the war.

Message to La Fayette :

Why don't you learn a proper language ? Think of all the spare time you have NOT taking a shower ! You could use that to learn to speak decent for the first time in your life. How are the French doing in Ivory Coast by the way ? Are your froggie civilians still running away from the angry locals, who finally got the chance to show you arrogant lot what they think about you ? Just make sure you don't fly a Concorde when getting all of you lot out of Africa, there won't be enough room for your inflated egos.

La France, c'est la merde ! You understood that, didn't you ?

frenchman,
Did Jerry Lewis's "The Errand Boy" come out on DVD yet? The whole world is dying to find out. Ahh,..france..What a waste of beautiful Atlantic coastline. I can't wait till the government collapses and I can build a condo on Normandy Beach.