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March 03, 2003
U.N. to Monitor Al Qaeda Suspect Questioning

(2003-03-03) -- Despite a U.S. promise to treat al Qaeda suspect Khalid Shaikh Mohammed humanely according to international law, the United Nations Secretary-General has assigned a team of monitors to inspect the interrogation process.

"If the U.S. fails to follow international protocols for the treatment of prisoners," said Secretary-General Kofi Annan, "The Security Council may pass a resolution calling for intensified monitoring of the interrogation process."

However, France, Germany and Russia introduced a competing resolution calling for "serious consequences against the United States if there is even the slightest indication that Mr. Mohammed's rights have been violated."

"We are quite concerned," said French Foreign Minister Dominique de Villepin, "That the shirt of the accused may have sustained a material breach during his apprehension."

The alleged planner behind most of al Qaeda's operations in recent years, Mr. Mohammed is in U.S. custody at an undisclosed location, but not the same one Vice President Dick Cheney often uses, according to White House spokesman Ari Fleischer.

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and you know, it's really Khalid Shaikh Mohammed loss that he's not being kept at the same base that hides the Cheneys. i hear Lynne's deviled eggs are to *DIE* for...

Posted by: RT at March 3, 2003 07:40 PM

I did hear that the cheney's did lend them his power tools... I wonder why

Posted by: Justin at March 3, 2003 07:44 PM

Yeah, I heard that... what's up with borrowing the soldering iron?

Posted by: Okie Dokie at March 3, 2003 07:51 PM

Valuable information recovered in the raid when the al Qaeda
suspect Khalid Shaikh Mohammed was apprehended was a detailed
interrogation training manual he had personally written.

The international community is seriously considering trying
a few of his ingenious methods on him.

Disenting countries France and Germany, are opposed to
this method since they don't really think these would be
very effective anyway. They favor just asking him politely
to disclose everything he knows about Al Queda and the
whereabouts of Osma Ben Landen

Posted by: Phrog Poet at March 3, 2003 09:30 PM

PLENTY MORE ROOM IN 'HOTEL CALIFORNIA'

The U.S. yesterday acknowledged U.N. and European concerns regarding humane treatment of detainees at the top secret American base known only by its CIA nickname, the 'Hotel California', and invited French President Chirac, German Chancellor Farleft'n'stupid, and U.N. Sec-Gen Whazuzface to inspect the facility.

None of the three have accepted as of yet, but a C.I.A. spokesman indicated that the offer remained in effect. "It's an open invitation. They can check in any time they want."

Posted by: Keith at March 3, 2003 10:04 PM

I thought the French foreign minister's name was Dominique de Villepinhead.

Posted by: John Lemon at March 3, 2003 10:53 PM

Funny, it seems to me that most Americans sit like zombies in another world, in no contact to other 'humans' from a planet called earth. The divide between the US and most western countries (Europe, Canada, etc.) is getting bigger by the day it seems.

All there is on American TV is crime, hate, celebreties and [nasty words] words, plus the all important ... FEAR!!
Yes, the US governement perfected in 60 years with lots of help from the commercial television stations the notion of fear in every American. Maybe thats why the US has about 12.000 killings by guns a year - because people fear everything and everyone? (just e.g. the UK has about 50 victims a year).

In addition, the universal love for the death penalty puts the US in quite a nice assembly of countries, like: Iran, Iraq, Saudi-Arabia, China, etc. Yes, all those evil, evil nations.

Also, that the US is the most religious fanatic and has the highest unwanted teenage-pregnancy rate of all western countries catapults it in a league all by itself.

Wheras most Europeans and Canadians are non-religious, sexually unoppressed, liberal, against the death sentance, socialist and just in general not living in fear, the US scores exactly the opposite on all these points.
So please, someone tell me now how the US can find a common ground with any western country where people just live in a different way?

Maybe the US administration should try to just learn to consider somebody else's opinion and not act like a little 3 year old who wants his goodie now, immediately and without delay.

I actually thought the US had learned something from its debacle in Vietnam? But I guess history has to repeat itself. Well the all so mighty Russian bear burned it's nose in Afghanistan, let's see how well the American Eagle will do in the desserts of Iraq and especially in house by house fighting in the streets of Baghdad.
But wait, didn't the Great Emperior George W. Bush consider using nuclear weapons if attacked by Iraqi forces? Well I assume this must be the liberation of the Iraqi people Msr. Bush and Rumsfeld keep babbling about. And yes I agree, beeing nuked to a heap of ash must be the ultimate liberation for most people.

Posted by: sputnikx at March 4, 2003 06:09 AM

I have mixed feeling on europe cause I do have many friends there. they aren't so close minded like many I see. I believe in execution for terrible crimes, not treating them to a free room and board. You take a life yours should be taken too, tell that to the families of sept 11th. That german trial for 20 years was a joke if you ask me. That guy will do something evil when he gets out, cause he will be bitter about his time in the slammer. As for guns I use mine for recreation, and yes people die to them but so is life. I'd rather have it that way then giving up freedom to be rounded up like cattle and watched by camera all day. Our government is not perfect but nor is any other in the world. I love my country but fear the government. Also you should take into not how much assuming you are doing, I am not religious. I believe in treating others as I would want to be treated. I have many friends like that. I cope with an unperfect world and do what I can instead of just ignoring a problem and just wishing for something. I think relations will fluctuate between people of the world, its like friendships. Lastly don't forget what europe did to a starving nation, we were going to give some place in africa some free food. It was genetically altered, and you guys fear it so baddly you told this country it was unsafe. So these people starving because they are scared of something they shouldn't be. So like I say no ones perfect in this world, we just have to work around our differences. I know it works cause I am good friends with people from around the world, its politics and petty choice that make people not like eachother. Keep an open mind and you won't go wrong.

Posted by: Nathan B at March 4, 2003 07:25 AM

As I said before:
There is something you do not understand : I am with you 100% in the war against terrorists and against you 100% in the war for oil.

Posted by: Frenchman at March 4, 2003 07:47 AM

I also believe in death penalty for september 11th criminals.

Posted by: Frenchman at March 4, 2003 08:20 AM

Frenchman:

How many logical arguments will you ignore in your fantasy world to further the French oil interests? Remember, the current majority stake holder of Iraq's oil contracts sits in Paris, not Dallas.

Posted by: logicpenaltybox at March 4, 2003 08:34 AM

Frenchie:

In what language do you want it?

WE DON'T NEED IRAQI OIL. FRANCE NEEDS IRAQI OIL.

So when you find your oil supplies running low - in about six to eight months - please remove your cap when you ask the United States: "Please can I have some oil. I'm your ally and friend after all."

And remember - shuffle a bit and say "Yessuh, boss."

If you think we're into humiliation at that point - you're right.

Posted by: Charles at March 4, 2003 08:41 AM

Sputnixz, you mentioned the big problem with all European counries in your large and very poorly written essay, that they are liberal.

I rest my case, your Honor.

Posted by: Paul C. Tindall at March 4, 2003 08:43 AM

Frenchman -
We DON'T CARE that you are 100% with us or against us. If I ever saw you in person I'd like to kick 100% of your [tail]...You Europeans with your...big opinions - but you have your hand out at the same time.

"oh no, Canada is upset with us!!!" What are they going to do, send us to bed without any Molson??

I'm telling you, Mr. Bush, stop giving my tax dollars to these ungrateful morons.

Posted by: Ameri-can at March 4, 2003 09:01 AM

Hey Sputnikx,

Tell me how Australia is doing with their gun ban...Last I heard Violent Crime has tripled.

Also, how about Tony Martin, a British farmer whose rural home had been burglarized and robbed at least two dozen times when on the night of August 21, 1999, he heard burglars and confronted them with a shotgun. He wonded one thief and killed another. A third criminal escaped. Despite the fact the three burglars had been hauled into court on criminal offenses more than 110 times between them, it was Tony Martin who was prosecuted with the greatest zeal. He was found guilty of murder and sentenced to life in prison. Although Britain's highest court ultimately reduced Martin's sentence after changing his conviction to manslaughter, he is still in prison, serving seven years total. An application for parole was denied on January 16, 2003.
The man who led the raid, Brendon Fearon, a career criminal with 34 convictions, served 18 months of a three year term and was freed in August 2001. On July 2, 2002, the "London Daily Mail" disclosed Fearon had been given 5,000 pounds of taxpayers' money so he could sue Martin for wounding him. Fearon claims he deserves compensation because he becomes "very tearful" when viewing a movie in which an actor dies. He is also reportedly scared of fireworks, no longer enjoys ju-jitsu and kick-boxing, and becomes depressed when TV shows contain gunfire.
"The most laughable claim is that the injuries he suffered are preventing him from going back to work," Malcolm Starr, a supporter of Martin, told the Daily Mail. "As we well know, he is a professional burglar." (This article taken from American Hunter, March 2003, page 77.)

So Sputnikx, is this the way your "ideal, perfect, peaceful world" works? If so, leave me out of it.

Ameri-can, I couldn't agree more. They complain and complain about how the Imperialist United States is the evil-doer of the world, but refuse to acknowledge the fact that they are actually only protecting Saddam's dictatorship, not the people. Also, they're the same ones that complain, but also have their hand ready for any money we may drop for the little crumb-snatchers.

Dusty.

Posted by: Dusty at March 4, 2003 09:26 AM

Bravo Dusty.

Posted by: Paul C. Tindall at March 4, 2003 09:50 AM

Sputnikx,


"In addition, the universal love for the death penalty puts the US in quite a nice assembly of countries, like: Iran, Iraq, Saudi-Arabia, China, etc. Yes, all those evil, evil nations."

There are certain people who have no moral foundation and commit horrible acts against humanity e.g. raping, murdering children, mass murderers, who, in my opinion have no place being on the face of the Earth. I don't want my tax dollars paying $30,000 per year per death-row inmate, especially when many American's don't even MAKE that much per year. Also, in California, we have inmates dying of old age on death-row. Dying of old age on death-row???
The difference between us and Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, China, etc. is that we don't stone people to death and I'm quite sure it's been a long time since someone was hung in town square. You even putting the United States in the category with those countries who will stone to death a woman who has been raped for being un-faithful to her husband is just asenine. There is no comparison.

"Also, that the US is the most religious fanatic and has the highest unwanted teenage-pregnancy rate of all western countries catapults it in a league all by itself."
Oh yeah, and China is wonderful about aborting daughters in favor of sons. I completely agree with the fact that there are many stupid American kids that should know by now that sex causes pregnancy, but don't say that we're a horrible nation because of it. Doesn't that also show our compassion for children? (We don't ship them out like other countries)

Sputnikx, what are you actually protecting over in Iraq? Are you protecting the innocent civilians? Are you protecting Saddam's dictatorship? You're not protecting the innocent Iraqi's, no matter how much you'd like to think you are. They are an oppressed people, living under a murdering dictator. Why won't you acknowledge that? Why?

Dusty.

Posted by: Dusty at March 4, 2003 09:57 AM

Oh by the way,

One certain truth I have come to known:

The only thing that will ever unite humankind is the threat of world destruction, other than that, we'll always all try to kill everyone for our many reasons.

Religion is the world's largest murderer. More people die in the name of religion than have died from cancer. How do people change an idea supposed to comfort humans and supposed to be peaceful into an excuse to murder?

Dusty.

Posted by: Dusty at March 4, 2003 10:23 AM

In how many countries have agents of our government deposed popularly elected leaders and replaced them with puppet military dictators who were willing to sell out their own people to american multinational corporations?

We did it in Iran when the U.S. Marines and the CIA deposed Mossadegh because he wanted to nationalize the oil industry. We replaced him with the Shah and armed, trained and paid his hated Savak national guard, which enslaved and brutalized the people of Iran -- all to protect the financial interests of our oil companies.

We did it in Chile.

And, of course, how many times have we done it in Nicaragua and all the other banana republics of Latin America? Time after time we have ousted popular leaders who wanted the riches of the land to be shared by the people who worked it. We replaced them with murderous tyrants who would sell out their own people so the wealth of the land could be taken out by the likes of Domino Sugar, the United Fruit Company, Folgers and Chiquita Banana.

Posted by: United Fruit at March 4, 2003 10:52 AM

United Fruit....Hmmm....is this a quote from Mary, a quote Mary took from someone else, or just Mary re-named?

Interesting, no liberal will answer any question. They only say what they say to hear it come out.

Dusty.

Posted by: Dusty at March 4, 2003 10:57 AM

Opportunists exploit it for their own purposes.

Similar to parasites who exploit anxiety about the troubled state of the world. Hence, the anti-war movenent and anti-Americanism worldwide. Both are being whipped up for political gain and only reflect the number people who are prepared to be misguided.

Strong leaders guide their nations, parasites cater to popular sentiment. Since such parasites are driven by personal agendas, countries foolish enough to elect them inevitably suffer. And rightfully so.

Posted by: Keith at March 4, 2003 11:10 AM

I really enjoyed this name !

Posted by: Mary at March 4, 2003 11:19 AM

Scott...great site...sanity found in an insane world (OK humor at least!).

500 cc's of sodium phyentonal(sp?) would do the trick...humanely, and we would get the truth the whole truth and "just the facts sir" as Sgt. Joe Friday used to say.

To all here ... the moon is down... the next two nights will prove very interesting. mike

Posted by: mike at March 4, 2003 11:34 AM

ScrappleFace Insiders are now studying Scott Ott's omission of the "who is a man" tag to French Foreign Minister Dominique de Villepin's name. Analysts are speculating that the change in policy is a result of the French Foreign Minister reportedly clarifying for the world, "I am a male weasel; not a man!"

Posted by: Bergwon at March 4, 2003 11:36 AM

GO DUSTY
I'm so tired of listening to the same old arguments over and over. Do we have a gun problem here in the USA, yes, but it is from illegal gun sales that will happen even if there is a gun ban. So if we ban guns, we will have no way of defending ourselves from those who illegaly get guns and use them in crimes. My college tried to pass a no gun initiative after the Columbine massacre and it failed badly. Why did it fail, because a deranged or pissed off person will not listen to a gun ban and not shoot the place up. The only effect would have been to leave the law abiding citizens without protection.

HEY FRENCHMAN GO TO THIS SITE AND SHUT UP ABOUT OIL!
WWW.ott.doe.gov/facts/archives/fotw246.shtml
If this war is about oil, we would save billions by invading Canada and Mexico, so give it a rest already!
Justin

Posted by: Justin at March 4, 2003 12:05 PM

Frenchie:
>>As I said before:
>>There is something you do not understand : I am with you 100%
>>in the war against terrorists and against you 100% in the war for oil.

Then what is your problem.? It's a damn lie. You'll still be against
us even when your ignorance of the "war for oil" becomes obvious
even to you.

>>I also believe in death penalty for september 11th criminals.

The future of France , Ladies and Gentlemen..!! When are you going to
run for La President Frenchie... Are you also in favor of the death penalty
for the suicide bombers?

Posted by: Phrog Poet at March 4, 2003 12:15 PM

This is the funniest. I get this mental picture of Hans Blix combing through his body hair looking for WMDs.

And I'm so glad I read sput-nicks and fruitcakes comments. They have convinced me that America is evil, evil, evil and I will move to the great country of Canada tomorrow.

And Frenchie, I know you're out there and I want you to know that I finally get the joke about the Sioux.

Posted by: Pooke at March 4, 2003 01:40 PM

Not everyone in Britain is against a war with Iraq. Polls last week on Sky TV News and BBC Radio 5 Live were 60-40 in favour of the US and UK invading Iraq. And support is growing all the time. Blair made an impassioned speech last Friday saying that if he didn't do anything about Iraq's possession of WoMD he wouldn't be able to live with himself. A lot of people, a silent majority, trust Blair, it's just that they don't tend to organise Give War A Chance demonstrations.
How much longer do war protesters want to give Saddam to comply with UN resolutions ñ another 12 years? By that time it might be too late and who will they blame? Our leaders for doing nothing.
If peace protesters don't think Saddam has WoMD then they are crazy or naive. Peace protesters seem to have long hair and short memories.
It's time to grasp the nettle and sort Saddam out before he either uses his weapons on us or his neighbours, or he gives them to terror groups that will. Let's send a couple of battalions of Virginian farmboys into Iraq and get this thing over with.
Even if Saddam doesn't have WOMD, getting rid of this evil, murderous thug can only benefit the Iraqui people.

Posted by: paul thorogood at March 4, 2003 02:43 PM

frenchie...

its all about the oil. just give us more no matter the price.

Here's the proof. Feel free to provide to your "win without war" friends.

http://www.kdp.pp.se/chemical.html

Posted by: spookster at March 4, 2003 03:52 PM

Spookster... Chilling site with what we've known for a while. Anyone that can look at that site and NOT want to rid the Earth of Saddam is sick....just plain sick.

Dusty.

Posted by: Dusty at March 4, 2003 04:11 PM

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Posted by: nikita demosthenes at March 4, 2003 04:14 PM

"Funny, it seems to me that most Americans sit like zombies in another world, in no contact to other 'humans' from a planet called earth. The divide between the US and most western countries (Europe, Canada, etc.) is getting bigger by the day it seems." Funny, the divide seems the same to me. Maybe you've only just begun to pay attention.
"All there is on American TV is crime, hate, celebreties and [nasty words] words, plus the all important ... FEAR!!" Yes, and that's just the commercials! Unlike foreign TV shows with endless hours of documentary and dry, boring TV having little or no other choice, the American audience demands shows with actual plots and lots of excitement and controversy.
"In addition, the universal love for the death penalty puts the US in quite a nice assembly of countries, like: Iran, Iraq, Saudi-Arabia, China, etc." And you know, with capitol punishment we've never had a single repeat offender!
"Wheras most Europeans and Canadians are non-religious, sexually unoppressed, liberal, against the death sentance, socialist and just in general not living in fear, the US scores exactly the opposite on all these points." Ehhh? You've summed it all up there, you've said it better than I ever could. Ha!

Posted by: zzebu at March 4, 2003 04:44 PM

Here's what we in the military say, if we wanted the damn oil we would have taken it 10 years ago! So that arguement carries no weight!

Posted by: Nathan B at March 4, 2003 04:47 PM

damn spookster that was a chilling site. We have all heard of the atrocities that saddam caused there, but to see all the pictures just chills one to the bones.
Frenchie, why don't you check out that site. Even if (and that is a huge if) you are right, those pictures are enough reason for you to support the ouster of saddam.
I have an infant of my own and to see the pictures of all the dead children pisses me off even more. Who cares what the reason is, anything can be better than leaving saddam in power!

Posted by: Justin at March 4, 2003 05:44 PM

How about this quote from Newsweek
"A poll conducted by Democrats finds that Americans favor Republicans over Democrats 47% to 16%, when asked which party is more trusted to keep America safe."

what can I say?

Posted by: Justin at March 4, 2003 06:13 PM

TO YOU FRANCE GERMANY AND RUSSIA YOU ARE ABOUT TO BE EXPOSED FOR THE SYSTAMIC RAPE OF THE IRAQI OIL REVENUES
DONT EVEN THINK FOR A SECOND YOUR FOOLING ANY ONE
THE EVIDENCE OF FRACE GERMANY AND RUSSIA STEELING FUNDS FROM IRAQ OVER THE LAST 12 YEARS WILL BE IN FRONT OF THE ENTIRE WORLD VERY VERY SOON

YOU HAVE RAPED THE FOOD FOR OIL PROGRAM ANLONG WITH YOUR FELLOW UN MEMBERS AND AMERICA WILL EXPOSE YOUR CRIMES !!!

FRANCE HAS BEEN RAPEING IRAQS FOOD FOR OIL FUNDS FOR 12 YEARS AMERICA SHALL RAIN JUSTICE DOWN ON FRANCE, GERMANY AND RUSSIA FOR YOUR EVIL EVIL CRIMES

Posted by: FREE IRAQ NOW at March 4, 2003 06:40 PM

It does strike me as ironic, that europe claims all this load about humane treatment and would gripe about us killing murders and such. Yet they would defend a tyrant who killed a million innocent people (butcher of Baghdad), people who were guilty of nothing but trying to live. More I read on this subject I am begginning to wonder how much dirt europe has swept under the rug. I guess soon after all the propaganda is cleaned up and the dust clears we will see. But I am proud we are trying to remove a tyrant like saddam instead looking away. It would be an act humanitarisism getting rid of him. I suggest you ignore the media my fellow foriegn friends, look for the facts. I could condemn all of europe for what I am seeing but I won't, cause that would be purely ignorant. I know some are misinformed and some really want to do the right thing. Govt doesn't speak for us all but I think they are on the right track. Food for thought.

Posted by: Nathan B at March 4, 2003 08:16 PM

you are right nathan b, Govt. doesn't speak for all of us, all of the time that is, but they are freely elected by us - but I don't ever recall choosing to have an actor speak for me. Why exactly does Belefonte's opinion matter so much that it gets media attention - yet the mechanic in my neighborhood, or the roofer or the cashier, these opinions don't matter. could someone explain to me why we worship these people? why does the vileness spewing forth from Striesands' blubbery lips matter so much? Are Garafolo's thought's on Bush & Iraq really so deep and insightful to deserve the attention they receive from the media?
I realize there are a few actors that do support America, but so what - why is the opinion of this group of people so highly regarded? I'll be damned if I can figure it out..but Robin Williams though, his opinion I do respect only because he's doing more than talk & I believe he has a love for the men and women risking their lives for our asses.

Posted by: johnv at March 4, 2003 10:27 PM

SUBJECT:
United Nations Secretary-General has assigned a team of monitors to inspect the interrogation process.

HOW ABOUT I MONITOR A 50,000 POUND J-DAMN ON THE UN SECURITY COUNSEL

MIND YOUR OWN UNITED NATIONS PATHETIC DEBATE CLUB BUSINESS

Posted by: FREEDOM NOW at March 4, 2003 11:09 PM

Spookster, I am thoroughly chilled. Can we get this e-mailed to everyone of those peacenicks?

Posted by: Pooke at March 5, 2003 12:12 PM

did you hear the latest. The UN has come up with a post Saddam plan that says the UN will take over control of Iraq 6 months after the end of hostilities. What Nerve!! They won't support it, but they want to control it afterwards. Screw them. the coaliton of Willing States will establish a democrative Iraqi government, freely elected and slected by the Iraqi people, who for the most part are victims. There are many who reap benefits from supporting Saddam, but the ones who rape and pilage will soon find their own rewards when th iraqi people finally have the means to render justice on the traitors.

Posted by: Darth Chef at March 5, 2003 01:37 PM

This morning that France guy, villa-pinhead or whatever stated that France would veto ANY resolution that could include force against Iraq. Please let me know what the hell we have been doing the last 4 months. If we knew that, we could have gone into Iraq months ago and not be pressured by the upcoming Iraqi summer coming up. Man these guys piss me off.
How about some input on this idea: Why don't we just kick the UN out of the USA, dump NATO, and form a coalition of willing countries to trade and work with? Those "others" would be crawling back within 1 year pleading for forgiveness.
Oh, and why is France on the security counsel anyway? I think only countries that have won a war within the last 500 years should be allowed on it!

Posted by: Justin at March 5, 2003 05:17 PM

Rush said to today ! AMEN.

"France is not our ally, France has never been our ally. France will not ever be our ally."

France hasn't just "grown ignorant" ... they never were our friend.

France has never done anything since day one in the "United Nations"
except whine, dissent, leverage, hinder, obstruct, snivel, and veto. Even
Russia as fruitcake as they are, at least act in thier own best self interest.

It's about time we woke up to the fact that they are worse than useless.
France is always going to be the first ones to sell their soul, and the last
ones to stand up for anything on principle.

Posted by: Phrog Poet at March 5, 2003 05:55 PM

Phrog Poet,
I do believe we made a mistake in WWII. Our soldiers practiced safe sex with all the willing french women (who of course were dying for the chance of being with a real man). We had the chance to breed them out (think of "Braveheart"), we really blew it, oh well we could just try and ignore them.

Posted by: Justin at March 5, 2003 06:50 PM

Ladies and Gentlemen of this forum;

Stop the whining!

If you are not with the US military ñ whoís in the frontline of this war, the best way to get even with those weasels is to fight them economically.

Organize and START to ìboycott and trashî their mercedes, bmw, volkswagen, airbus, airfrance, lufthansa, renault, peugot, nissan, alcatel, michelin, siemens, and all of their products. For every dollar that you spend to purchase either of these products -- you contribute and finance their arrogance and disdain to the USA. They must not be able to do trade with America.

Simply purchase "MADE IN USA" and trash all foreign products. Trash their products out of the US market!

This will help American companies, workforce, economy, and the country.

UNITE

Posted by: Armstrongcui at March 5, 2003 10:00 PM

Armstrongcui:

Nissan is a japanese company.

Unless you know something different...

Posted by: Charles at March 5, 2003 10:06 PM

Frenchies :

Less you forget, read this letters again...

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To France and European COLLABORATORS of Saddam;

Every Iraqi and Kurds has the right to be free (like the Europeans) from the dictatorship and tyranny of Saddam.

SHAMELESS France supports Saddam as a way to protect their oil contracts at the expense of every Iraqi and Kurds. France DEPLORAPLE business with Saddam are all in violation of the UN trade embargo and therefore illegal. DESPICABLE France must be tried as an accessory and accomplice to all atrocities and genocide committed by Saddam to its own people particularly the Kurds.

Bootlickers can show their CROCODILE concern by putting Saddam as the King of France and the President of Europe. ìVive Europe - Long live Der Fuhrer Saddamî.


Posted by: Ylmas (a KURD) on February 22, 2003 06:56 AM


------------------------------------------------

ANOTHER CHIRAC SCANDAL LOOMS FOR FRANCE ...

CHIRAC BLACKMAILED BY SADDAM

Quote by Saddam Hussein, 1992, expressing anger at French participation in the Gulf War:

"As for financiers, industrialists and above all those responsible for military industry, the question must be put to French politicians: Who did not benefit from these business contracts and relationships with Iraq? . . . With respect to the politicians, one need only refer back to the declarations of all the political parties of France, Right and Left. All were happy to brag about their friendship with Iraq and to refer to common interests. From Mr. Chirac [now the center-right president] to Mr. Chevenement [the socialist former defense minister] . . . politicians and economic leaders were in open competition to spend time with us and flatter us. We have now grasped the reality of the situation [of France's support for the 1991 Gulf War, a betrayal in Saddam's eyes]. If the trickery continues, we will be forced to unmask them, all of them, before the French public"

How noble of Mr. Chirac, since 1992, to spend a decade weakening sanctions against Iraq and to fight against the liberation its people, for fear of his own ass.

Since scandal is hardly a new thing for Mr. Chirac, whatever Saddam has on him must be a peach. In fact, if Mr. Chirac hadn't been re-elected, he'd be in court for numerous other scandals, if not already in prison by now.

This one is going to be the mother of all scandals.


More here:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/002/313ycqje.asp

Posted by: Keith on March 1, 2003 08:31 PM

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Do I need to say more??

Posted by: NEIL at March 5, 2003 10:08 PM

Charles,

Nissan is originally a japanese company now owned and controlled by a french company renault. Same situation as with Chrysler (daimler?).

Posted by: Armstrongcui at March 5, 2003 10:13 PM

Does USA needs UN and NATO?

UN being an irrelevant organization, which canít impose its own resolution, has libya as its chairman for their human right commission and irag as its chairman for their disarmament commission.-bizarre or strange?

Also, UN is being used as a leverage by other countries and interest against USA.

The US government must stop wasting American taxpayerís money by HALTING or reducing its contribution to UN and NATO. The budget will be better spent and reinvested to the US military and economy.

Posted by: ALCO at March 5, 2003 10:24 PM

Armstrongcui:

Thanks for the info.

I stand corrected.

Best Regards

Posted by: Charles at March 6, 2003 07:57 AM

I might be wrong, but didn't Chrysler buy out Daimler?
If anyone is interested in seeing what the many Iraqi refugees think about all this pleas go to this site: www.weeklystandard.com/content/public/articles/000/000/002/314yltit.asp
Don't you all think that they should be allowed a voice in all this?

Posted by: Justin at March 6, 2003 12:39 PM

Dusty. You say "Religion is the world's largest murderer. More people die in the name of religion than have died from cancer."

Ever hear of Nazism or Totalitarianism or Communism? Ever hear of Stalin's purge? How about Cambodia or Rwanda?

Approximately 100 million souls were killed in the past century -- and none of them were because of religion. So lose the inaccurate platitude.

JOD

Posted by: J ODonnell at March 7, 2003 06:56 PM

If there is some mistrust of the motives of the United States, it might be to our benefit to think about why this should be, rather than shrilly attacking anyone who thinks a war with Iraq isn't the smartest idea coming out of the Oval Office in quite some time.
We might also remember that sovereign nations have the right to disagree with us, and that we don't have the right to bully any country into following our lead in any particular issue.
Considering the number of brutal dictatorships the United States has been allied with in the past 50 years, some of whom have committed crimes against their own people just as wicked as Saddam Hussein has, it seems a little odd for certain factions in the government to be crying crocodile tears over the Iraqi people.
Sometimes it seems as though the staunchest supporters of President Bush are the most determined NOT to actually research the history of America's involvement with simiular dictarships - or indeed, to think beyond shallow cliches.
Oh, and if we want to make points that impress others, it might be kinda cool if some folks learned how to spell . . .

Posted by: Richard S. Drake at March 12, 2003 03:34 AM
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