April 09, 2003
Looting Suddenly Stops in Baghdad
(2003-04-09) -- The looting in Baghdad stopped suddenly today as Iraq's largest organized crime family disappeared from the city. Buy "Axis of Weasels," the first book by Scott Ott. $12.95 + S&H; Comments
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Good spin on the situation, and I think the Coalition forces agree. The only time they're clamping down is when it gets violent or when food is being hoarded. BTW, now would be a good time to bounce the PSA back to the top, I think. An especially popular find was the French wines and the German Pork rinds found stored in the cellar of the main palace. Posted by: MIkey at April 9, 2003 08:40 AMWhere's the satire? Oh, by the way, I saw a few "Not In Our Name" folks yesterday. I think they ought to tape a message for broadcast in Iraq once they get television up and running again. How about this: "To the people of Iraq--we just want you to know that we people had NOTHING to do with your children being freed from Saddam's prison. Not a darnthing. Nada. Nuttin'. Wasn't us. Nosireebob! Uh-uh! We were DEADset against the whole darned thing." Posted by: Archie's Bunker at April 9, 2003 08:44 AMApologies for re-posting and personal plug, but this one burns me up. I started to write a short note about Scott Ritter, former UN Weapons inspector and child molestor, regarding this comment he made months ago about Iraqi children's prisons "Actually I'm not going to describe what I saw there because what I saw was so horrible that it can be used by those who would want to promote war with Iraq, and right now I'm waging peace." But my comments grew too long. It's on my blog, linked through my name. Posted by: Greyhawk at April 9, 2003 08:49 AMAnd to Scott Ott Way to go Scott! Tell it like it is! Posted by: Rabid Rabbit at April 9, 2003 09:33 AMAnd I looted this from another post too: According to Reuters, "Looters were quick to take advantage. Reuters Television crews watched cheering crowds sack the U.N. headquarters in the Canal Hotel to the east and drive off in U.N. cars. Posted by: Greyhawk at April 9, 2003 09:48 AMAbout 1966 or so, a NASA team doing work for the Apollo moon mission took the astronauts to the terrain of the Navajo Reservation near Tuba City. There the terrain looks very much like the lunar surface. Among all the trucks and large vehicles were two large figures that were dressed in full lunar spacesuits. Nearby a Navajo sheep herder and his son were watching the strange creatures walk about, occasionally being tended by other NASA personnel. The two Navajo people were noticed and approached by the NASA personnel. Since the man did not know English, his son asked for him who the strange creatures were. The NASA people told them that they were just men that were getting ready to go to the moon. The man became very excited and asked if he could send a message to the moon with the astronauts. The NASA personnel thought this was a great idea so they rustled up a tape recorder. After the man gave them his message, they asked his son to translate. His son would not. Later, they tried a few more people on the reservation to translate and every person they asked would chuckle and then refuse to translate. Finally, someone translated the message, "Watch out for these guys, they come to take your land." This might be the most truthfull report on the situation in Baghdad that I've read. Hey Frenchie, ever hear this one? The French, they are a curious race, "Watch out for these guys, they come to take your land" --Frenchman Yeah, just like they did in Normandy on June 6, 1944, eh Frenchy?
AHA - I must be psychic http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/4/8/123709.shtml Posted by: Pooke at April 9, 2003 10:07 AMI realized this morning that since we have a lot of unused ammunition because the war with Iraq is ending much sooner than expected we could go to Columbia. I realized then that the protestors who protest the war with iraq would have to creat new signs No Blood for Coke!. it was then that I realized these same protestors would probably not be against that war. Posted by: Darth Chef at April 9, 2003 10:28 AMfrenchman- how about we make a deal, if we(the United States of America) don't leave Iraq as soon as a representative government is set up- you can gloat and continue to use your illogical, weak, pathetic, pointless, totally-contrary-to-reality-and-past-practice, asinine, useless, drug induced, sniveling, estrogen-laden, 95 lbs weakling, no backbone, appeasing comments BUT, if and WHEN we leave, you can no longer make comments!!!! I (as are numerous others) am tired of reading the same lame supposed 'justifications' for operation Iraqi freedom!!! I think you are now upset because your 'country' will have no role in rebuilding Iraq except handing out dixie cups and depends to the elderly Iraqis- who, will probably spit on your 'countrymen' for supporting Saddam's regime and not lifting a finger to help them during their formerly oppressed lives! Posted by: hrdlordi at April 9, 2003 10:30 AMFrenchman That is funny... But we have learned from our past mistakes... that one won't happen again. We only seek peace for our world and the United States is the only nation on Earth capable of achieving that. When France becomes a world power, they can demand peace the way they believe is acheivable. Posted by: Bruce at April 9, 2003 10:32 AMFrenchman I'm surprised the U.N. cars ran at all-I thought you would fill them with gas, turn the key, and a recorded voice would tell you to give it more time. I knew those twits in Hollywood would want to make a movie about Jessica Lynch. I, for one, wouldn't go see it unless all the celebrities worked for free, and all the profits went to either our troops, or the people of Iraq. Posted by: DoktorI at April 9, 2003 10:34 AMIf France was running the war, the Iraqis would now be part of the French Republic. That's how they would deal with it! Posted by: DoktorI at April 9, 2003 10:37 AMThe frenchman makes me wonder why we didn't take and keep france 60 years ago. It's never to late is it? The Girl Scouts could kick their drunken, smelly butts. All they would need is something called soap, water, and squirt guns. Very large squirt guns, and real strong soap. Posted by: Mike S at April 9, 2003 10:42 AMHey liberal pukes(and you also Frenchie) Just watched the saddamite's statue get pulled, down and stomped on by the Iraqi people. Just for this occasion I hope Satan has color tv in Hell so sad dam could watch. Posted by: Mike S at April 9, 2003 10:57 AMFrenchie, the only land we have ever asked for was space to bury our dead. At least in Iraq my friends are coming home to be buried. We have not asked for any land or recompense for freeing the people of Iraq!!! or France for that matter. Posted by: Old Sailor at April 9, 2003 11:01 AMJust watched the Marines use an armored recovery vehicle topple a statue of Saddam by butting a chain around its neck and dragging it off its pedistal. I couldn't help wishing that it was the real Saddam. The Iraqi civilians watching cheered and threw trash at the fallen statue. Isn't it a shame we had to defy the UN, invade a sovereign nation, terrorize the civilian population, and face the wrath of an entire counrty as the citizens rose of the defend their beloved leader... Semper Fi and long live the (finally) free nation of Iraq. After seeing the statue of Saddan come down, a spokesperson for Life Alert, said, "We want Saddam for our new commercial. He will be perfect, when he reads our motto, 'Help! I've fallen and I can't get up!'" The Iraqi Information Minister said, "Saddam will be in touch." Posted by: Susan Serin-Done at April 9, 2003 11:14 AMhas anyone heard any new statements from the minister of 'dis'information??? how does he explain all of the US soldiers in Baghdad?? I guess he could say that the Americans are 'bogged' down destroying all of saddam's egotistical statues... so much for saddam being saladin-oops! Posted by: hrdlordi at April 9, 2003 11:24 AMFrenchman, I will have to admit, that's the first time I got a chuckle out of something you said! But as Bruce said, what we did to the Indians was shameful, and WON'T happen again. Thank God, we are a Country who learns from our mistakes, UNLIKE France, Germany, Russia, and China! some random guy, Semper Fi! To see the Iraqi people, when the statue came down, had to make even the loved ones of the Lost Soldiers, smile. God Bless America, Our Brave Troops, GWB, Tony Blair, U.K., Australia, and ALL Our Allies, who believe in FREEDOM!!! Posted by: Susan Serin-Done at April 9, 2003 11:32 AMHey Doc... if France were running this war, Paris would right now be renamed to North Bagdad and would be putting up statues of Saddam Hussein. Posted by: Bruce at April 9, 2003 11:38 AMDid anyone see the sign held up by some of the jubilant Iraqi's saying "Human Shields Go Home!"? The next sign they hold up should say "Not in My Name, US Anti-War effort, protect the Saddam Regime!" Posted by: Tango at April 9, 2003 11:40 AMSorry Scott, I think that weasel wimp does not get it, so let me be so kind as to serve it to him in the original unexpurgated version. Frenchman de mes fesses Frenchman Spent 13 months of my young life trying to clean up part of the mess France left in Nam. Thank God you guys only sold weapons this time. I know this is a cop out but here are some good quotes for you. "France was a land, England was a people, but America, having about it still that quality of the idea, was harder to utter -- it was the graves at Shiloh and the tired, drawn, nervous faces of its great men, and the country boys dying in the Argonne for a phrase that was empty before their bodies withered. It was a willingness of the heart." "France has neither winter nor summer nor morals. Apart from these drawbacks it is a fine country." "If it were not for the government, we should have nothing to laugh at in France." Semper Fi Posted by: jarhead at April 9, 2003 11:51 AM"I do not dislike the French from the vulgar antipathy between neighboring nations, but for their insolent and unfounded airs of superiority." Seems like things haven't changed much in over 200 years; eh, Frenchie? (BTW: a little escargot with your serving of CROW, perhaps?) Posted by: AHA at April 9, 2003 11:53 AMFrenchie - you still haven't answered my question from April 3rd: so say the Frenchman oh, the irony... liberated not once but twice within 25 years, do you feel liberated, dear Frenchman? Posted by: tom at April 9, 2003 12:25 PMFolks, Picking on Frenchie is useless. There is no cure for retardation. He simply can not and is totally unable to understand anything other than what is already in his mind. Monkey's while intelligent creatures have contributed little to the betterment of humanity. The same could be said of the French. I still like their food though, perhaps that's the exception. Posted by: Radio at April 9, 2003 12:31 PMI must note: I was a tad "disappointed" seems to me that statue they just ripped off of its lil clay feet, could have at least had the realism to "slither" off, like the idiot it was formed after has. One other hallucinatory day dream...after we are done liberating Iraq...and then possibly we could attempt the almost impossible, of going after the "Axis of Ignorance"?...(too many to mention here...but starting with France...and Movievillians...(still making list) perhaps I need help here, the list is way to long to do alone....but in the mean time perhaps Bagdad Bob could help ward off the war protestors...(while on that thought, my geography was never too great till I had the need to know.. but isn't the river "DeNILE" in another country?) Oh, I get it now. That is a good one. Saddam = Organized Crime Posted by: set at April 9, 2003 12:48 PMFrenched fry: Rule #1: The biggest evil in the world is the inability to recognize evil. Rule #2: The only way to defeat evil is to show and use overwhelming force of biblical proportions. I would suggest you get off our sacred soil! Posted by: mj larkins sr at April 9, 2003 12:52 PMAnGel Thoughtz, The thought you put in my mind of Saddam's statue 'slithering off' it's pedestal, is too funny! Hee Hee! Posted by: Susan Serin-Done at April 9, 2003 01:03 PMFrenchie: are you watching? Take your pick, US media, Abu Dabi TV, Al Jazeera TV.... apparently the "liberated ones" are feeling pretty well liberated by the liberators... Kiss your 60 billion illegal investment goodby........ Posted by: AHA at April 9, 2003 01:35 PMI remember, as a child, the packages of aid that came to our refugee camp in Germany. Huge tins of processed cheese, warm blankets, dried milk and sometimes chocolate. When the soldiers came, they would give us a stick of gum, a huge smile and a wink. I remember their uniforms; they were handsome and oh so dashing! We were a poor bunch of little kids, but we giggled shyly and tried to communicate. They patted our heads or picked us up to hug us. It wasn't occupation, it wasn't arrogance, it wasn't domination; it was kindness, it was dedication to their cause of freedom, and it was their love of humanity. And it left a lasting impression on me. As I look upon the faces of our military today, these courageous men and women, brave, compassionate yet fierce in their cause to liberate the Iraqi people, I pray for them all. American, British, Australian, Polish and the scores of others who are facing yet another tyrant. My heart swells with pride and love for those who have given up so much to make this world a better place. There is no country in the world that can say Americans, when they came to liberate a land, forced our language, culture or religions on anyone. Those of us who chose to embrace this wonderful land do so wholeheartedly, without coercion or force. We do it because we are true patriots. We know what sacrifices were made for our freedom. Posted by: tom at April 9, 2003 01:38 PMMr. Larkins, sorry, forgot to source the posting above To America's Soldiers http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110003307 Ms. Makuch received the FBI's Lewis E. Peters Memorial Award in 1992 for her two decades as a double agent spying on the Soviets. Posted by: tom at April 9, 2003 01:40 PMtom- I'm still trying to make out that poem in french. Babelfish translates it as Frenchman of my buttocks You still lost an occasion to close it! Your connery does not have limits. It is with the image of this country of idiots and of sold which wants to play the donors of lessons. Will sing "my ancestors the Gallic ones" with small African and insane us it peace, minable small intellectual! And pay attention to your mouth. If my Kurdish friends meet you, they will reduce to you out of pulp foutor of [france]. I think I get the idea though :) Posted by: Robb at April 9, 2003 02:02 PMTo Scott thanks for being so right on the money as always. Be it through satire or giving yhe straight truth. To the French WEENIE UGH NEVERMIND YOU AND YOUR WHOLE COUNYRY AREN'T WOTH IT. Go Army!!! Posted by: Joe at April 9, 2003 02:10 PMFrom Andrew Sullivan - This is an amazing victory, a victory over a monster who gassed civilians, jailed children, sent millions into fruitless wars, harbored poisonous weapons to threaten free peoples, tortured thousands, and made alliances with every two-bit opportunist on the planet. It's a victory over those who marched in the millions to stop this liberation, over the endless media cynics, over the hate-America crowd, and the armchair generals. It's a victory for the two countries in the world that have always made freedom possible and who have now brought it to another corner of the world made dark by terror. It's a victory for the extraordinary servicemen and women who performed this task with such skill, cool, courage and restraint. It's a victory for optimism over pessimism, the righting of past wrongs, the assertion of universal truths against postmodern excuses, and of political leadership over appeasement. Celebrate it. Don't let the whiners take this away from you or from the people of Iraq. "We have not asked for any land or recompense for freeing the people of Iraq!!! or France for that matter." Not quite true. We did ask for a little bit of land to bury our dead. If it was up to me, I'd bring them all home to Arlinton. French soil isn't worthy of them. Better yet...permanently station a heavily armed garrison of US Marines on the grounds at Normandy...just to remind the Frogs who bought and paid for that land. bravo "Plein Le Cul La France", j'apprecie votre ps : n'oubliez simplement que beaucoup de franÁais(25 a 30 %) ne partage pas les "idÈes" de frenchman...
bravo "Plein Le Cul La France", j'apprecie votre ps : n'oubliez simplement que beaucoup de franÁais(25 a 30 %) ne partage pas les "idÈes" de frenchman...
New Employment ideas for Mr. Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf (2)Hollywood - to collect his oscar (3)replacement for Mr. Magoo That's not fair Angel. Magoo was blind, not a liar. Posted by: set at April 9, 2003 03:17 PMpoint taken "set" straight...:) Posted by: AnGeL Thoughtz at April 9, 2003 03:23 PMThe pathetic cowards that question our motives and integrity will no doubt crank up their cynicysm to deal with the cheering Iraquis in the streets of Baghdad. How thrilling it must be to have your country back after decades of unspeakable abuse, in addition to the fact that we're rid of one more supporter of terrorism. It is difficult to find words to express my disgust towards those who would deny us and the Iraquis of the above benefits. Hey listen folks, Tango wrote: "Did anyone see the sign held up by some of the jubilant Iraqi's saying "Human Shields Go Home!"? The next sign they hold up should say "Not in My Name, US Anti-War effort, protect the Saddam Regime!"" I actually think you were mistaken. If this was the same sign I saw this morning it was a sign that said "Human Shields" identifying the people holding the sign as human shields and then under that said "Go Home American Wankers". One of the reporters there said the human shields were out berating the Marines and calling them baby killers. The reporter also said the Iraqi civilians were making fun of these human shields. Pretty sad when the people you were supposedly there to protect also know you are a joke. Posted by: twalsh at April 9, 2003 04:17 PMto Scott-yours has always been a "victory"...wit and satire over inane, ignorant & mostly idiodic press releases(what we've come to expect of our media). to All "regs"- victory is obvious & always was the expected outcome.The peace protesters, media hacks, leftists, Hollywood, UN, & the like now have to swallow the bitter pill that is REALITY. Iraq is liberated! The people are praising Allah for the AMERICAN TROOPS that free them as we speak! Signs of hatred are directed at those who chose to do NOTHING! Human shields, actors & diplomats are loathsome to those who now celebrate in the streets of Bagdad. Chants of GWB are heard over the reporters field interviews. to Frenchie & his ilk- when reality is replaced by bitterness & denial...a poisonous insanity is all that remains. Truth serves only to drive it deeper. I am done with you...you are beyond contempt, pitifull in your waste of life. To The Troops...be careful out there...get home safe...job WELL DONE! Posted by: mike at April 9, 2003 04:21 PMWhat's funny is that soon the people of Iraq will be able to watch the movies and listen to the songs of the "celebrities" who, if it were up to them, would have let the Iraqis rot under the dictatorship of Saddam and his ruling party. Talk about irony! We should give the Iraqis a list of the people who did not want to help them, so they can choose what they want to see and hear, and which morons to ignore. I'm sure Michael Moore and his cronies will be going on tour in Iraq to show their support of the people-sort of like Sally Struthers in "South Park". If only those human shields would throw themselves in front of some Iraqi soldiers (if they could find any who would admit to it)... Posted by: DoktorI at April 9, 2003 04:37 PMAngel Thoughtz, Re- Mohammed Saeed al Sahhaf. IMHO this guy is the most brilliant spin doctor of all time. His efforts to paint a rosy picture of the progress of the troops on behalf of the erstwhile Iraqui regime were truly amazing. I really hope he survives and surfaces somewhere to receive an Oscar as you say, or even better starts a PR company. I know he is a member of Sadams inner circle and probably not a pleasant man but he certainly has big brass ones. Jonah Posted by: Jonah8208 at April 9, 2003 04:46 PMEveryone who wants that witch Janeane "Not-In-Our-Name" Garofalo do what she promised and apologise to President Bush for being W.R.O.N.G., click on my name. (Didn't she also promise the Prez roses?) Posted by: AHA at April 9, 2003 04:53 PMYEEEHAAAA! I for one am PROUD to be an AMERICAN right now. I had tears in my eyes from reading ya'lls post. Danjo Well... that didn't take long.. Jonah..i have found his "new endeavor"...:New Website: :New Website: The people carrying the sign: HUMAN SHIELDS GO HOME (with something about US wankers) looked like Iraqis. They were surrounding the Marines, hugging them and posing for photos with them. I did see a vehement young woman dressed like a westerner who was yelling at a Marine. She looked hostile; he looked irritated. I'm guessing that was the "shield" who was accusing U.S. troops of being murderers. Posted by: Joanne Jacobs at April 9, 2003 05:46 PMHi I was going to post something here. Then I accidentally clicked the wrong button and posted it on another thread. Now I forgot what I meant to say, how sillyme is that? How many times has this happened to you? Posted by: Bambi Stokes-Hymington at April 9, 2003 06:06 PMI remebered what I was going to say when I saw it written in the other post. I don't see what everything here has to do with looting. I thought this was about looting. It happened once in a town where I lived and we won a national championship in something on TV. I didn't loot though. Posted by: Bambi Stokes-Hymington at April 9, 2003 07:01 PMAPRIL 9 2003 TO ALL THOSE WHO OPPOSED We have seen their kind before. They're the heirs of all the murderous ideologies of the 20th century. By sacrificing human life to serve their radical visions, by abandoning every value except the will to power, they follow in the path of fascism, Nazism and totalitarianism. And they will follow that path all the way to where it ends in history's unmarked grave of discarded lies. GWB 9-20-2001 _______________________________ TO ALL THE PEOPLE NAMED BELOW F____ EVERY ONE OF YOU B****RDS WE WERE NEVER DECEIVED BY YOUR PRETENSES TO PIETY Artist United to Win without War AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST....[ ] YOU FRENCHMAN AND YES JUSTICE HAS PREVAILED Frenchman drops in, says something stupid and then he leaves. I'm beginning to think he's my ex husband. Posted by: USMC wife at April 9, 2003 07:27 PM"If France was running the war, the Iraqis would now be part of the French Republic. That's how they would deal with it!" If France were running the war (and not running from it), then France would now be part of the Greater Empire of Iraq. Posted by: pgb at April 9, 2003 07:51 PMWell blogged, JP ... although I suspect Frenchman would be into that. With all the Iraqis chanting 'Bush YES, Saddam NO' and even coming up with mock Iraqi currency with Bush's likeness instead of Saddam, I have the unsettling notion that many of them do not yet perceive that they are going to be given true freedom. Many seem to have the impression that Saddam is being replaced as chief autocrat by George Bush. Imagine the gratitude when it becomes apparent to them that our intention is to build a new, democratic Iraq and then completely turn it over to them. I'm already giddy with anticipation about what they might have to say to France, Russia, et al. Maybe something along the lines of that banner some Iraqis had earlier (after some the Western appeaseniks in Baghdad confronted Marines as 'children killers'): "HUMAN SHIELDS GO HOME, YOU U.S. WANKERS" ... Priceless. (Of course, there's still more fighting ahead ... we took out a few Reuters and Al-Jazeera correspondants, but there are still plenty left in Iraq, and we haven't even begun offensive operations against Saddam's most hardcore defenders, the BBC wags. I wonder if fate could be so perfect that Iraqi mob justice takes care of some of them?) Posted by: Keith at April 9, 2003 07:52 PMGEORGE BUSH MILLIONS IN AFGHANISTAN IN LESS THAN TWO YEARS TWO ENTIRE COUNTRYS ARE FREE FROM OPPRESSION TYRANTS AND TERROR IN THE WORDS OF THE IRAQI'S IT IS D**N GOOD TO BE AN AMERICAN MOTHER ______!! PS THANKS KEITH FOR THE SUPPORT Posted by: jp at April 9, 2003 08:00 PMHey Keith, I think one of the 'baghdaddies' interviewed today said "France and Germany - NO! Americans yes".It was one of those man in the street interviews. Another one said something derogatory about Al-Jazeera. Posted by: USMC wife at April 9, 2003 08:08 PMjp- looks like a great start to the movie boycott list! Keith...LMAO...BBC was covering an EARTHQUAKE in INDIA for Gods sake while Bagdad was being liberated!!! (maybe, if we don't report it ...it won't really be happening!) WANKERS one & all!!
Let FREEDOM ring, loud & long...clear & STRONG ! Posted by: mike at April 9, 2003 08:10 PMAPRIL 9, 2003 IRAQI INDEPENDENCE DAY.... ITS JULY 4th IN BAGHDAD TONIGHT .... New Issue: by the way did anyone care that Osama Bin Laden released another taped message on Al-Jazeera haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa BUT MOST OF ALL ... I AM GOING TO MISS YOU ...BAGHDAD BOB I WILL NEVER FORGET YOU ... Iraqi Information Minister Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf No, no, no. I think Baghdad Bob is going to get a job at CNN or ABC with Wanker Jennings. "Don't beleive any of it, Clinton is still the president." Posted by: GHOST at April 9, 2003 09:49 PMI appreciate the Frenchman's story for what it was. It is little wonder why he doesn't hang out here. It's not quite so mentally healthy for folks who happen to have an opinion that does not align with the majority. I think his story struck quite a nerve but perhaps all the zealotry that resulted wasn't exactly his intention. I didn't hear anyone argue about the reality of his anecdote, though several strawmen were propped up and burned in effigy. I doubt that the war that is waged will fail to reward someone with advantageous parcels of land, geographic positioning or socio-economic advantage of some sort. There are those who are ready and willing to benefit from a place or space in this rather profitable area of the world. Ahh, but there is quite the selfless spin on America's war story. Maybe we should just shout a few more huzzah's and kick the dissenters in the keister. Posted by: jmmygoggle at April 9, 2003 10:26 PMTO: Wow..what a post !! perfect you hace defined American policy exacty how it really is Posted by: jp at April 9, 2003 10:59 PM2 items of interest 1. Al Jazeera reporters were chased by several vehicles filled with Iraqis all the way from the city of Basrah to the Kuwaiti Border! The Kuwaitis had to let them in to save their lives. The Iraqis said they had chased them out because they were incensed at their pro-Saddam coverage. 2. The lead UK aircraft carrier has tossed out BBC coverage from the programs they view on board. Seems the sailors demanded to watch something else, sick of the negative coverage given the Coalition by that news organization. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Yes mr frogman, much to our everlasting regret SOME of our ANCESTORS killed many people who they found on the land we now call America and took over. It was not a proud chapter in our history but neither is the history of the Romans running the Celts out of Gaul or the Franks running the Romans out of Gaul, or the Catholic French slaughtering the protestant French, or the French Army torturing Algerians, or the French Vichy turning French jews over to the Nazis for extermination or the French treatment of the Vietnamese long before the Americans got there. The fact that America was turned from a land that supported several million people in a stone age culture to a nation that feeds the world and does its level best to maintain its security is not an excuse. But that happened a long time ago and those people are all dead. What excuse do YOU have for advocating the world continue to follow failed policies in removing a vicious murdering dictator TODAY, the effect of which is to do nothing while innocents die daily at his hands and would have continued to do so indefinitely??? If you please, for once, a straight answer to a direct question. Posted by: wizegoi at April 10, 2003 12:27 AMjmmygoggle - Regarding the Frenchman, you posted "I didn't hear anyone argue about the reality of his anecdote" I guess you really are new to the site. Some of the regulars have tried for weeks on end to maintain a civil, logical discourse with Frenchman after one of his posts. We've pretty much given up. His condescending tone and air of intellectual superiority have alienated most of us who have tried to debate him on the issues. Those inclined to debate the Frenchman typically reply with facts, url addresses included, and receive slogans in return. In one of the Frenchman's more ironic posts he stated: "Is it a war of liberation if the "liberated" ones don't consider it so?" This coming from a Frenchman. We've repeatedly asked Frenchman if he considers himself liberated - we've yet to receive the courtesy of a reply. Posted by: tom at April 10, 2003 11:04 AMHere's my two sense Also I got some literture about this at a rally, if anyone wants to debate I am not making this up. Also Jimmy if you are new here I am a man. Posted by: Bambi Stokes-Hymington at April 10, 2003 11:58 AMla_fayette I see eye to eye with you about that silent minority in France. Some of those I know are seriously thinking about relinquishing their French citizenship. Living over there in this ocean of stupidity has become hell for them. Robb Nice try with the translation. But Babelfish is not up to the job. Sorry I can't correct it here. Scott would not let it go through, which is the reason why I sneaked in with the French text in the first place. Posted by: Plein Le Cul La France at April 10, 2003 12:29 PMjimmypiddle - Noriega (Panama). yup, we're still in these "advantageous parcels of land," continuing to maintain "geographic positioning" or leveraging our military power to fully extract "socio-economic advantage of some sort." While there will always be "those who are ready and willing to benefit from a place or space in this rather profitable area of the world," (see, for example, the royal Saud family, Arafat, Assad, Mubarek, etc., etc.) why don't you try putting a few facts on the table when making such claims? Facts are always welcome things here in the Comments section. Posted by: tom at April 10, 2003 12:57 PMIn other news, UN's Kofi Annan today denounced the popular looting in Iraq, pressuring the coalition forces to restore order. He pointed out that when Hussein's regime was in power, the streets of Baghdad were "So nice, so very quiet and peaceful." APRIL 10, 2003 Word has come out of hell that the gates have temporarily been closed. "We are so overloaded with new arrivals from the Republican Guard and Fetayin that we have to close hell for a while until all the newcomers are processed and assigned the proper torments," said Lilith the Accursed Succubus to several CNN journalists. "The Information Minister told me there would only be a few casualties. I never expected for it to be like--AAAAGGHHHHH ALLAH HELP ME IT BURNS IT BURNS!" said Saddam Hussein, who was recently assigned to the ninth circle. Certain high-ranking demons have hinted that Hussein may be in the same fire pit as Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin. "We are also using this downtime to renovate the Kingdom of Lies and will reopen the gates soon. The next wave of arrivals can rest assured there will be a world of wonderful horrors waiting for them. We discriminte only by the amount of evil one has, and these sinners will get the same treatment as the Wehrmacht, the Mongols, and other evil soldiers," said Satan a.k.a. Iblis a.k.a. Lucifer a.k.a. The Lord of Lies this afternoon. In the meantime, the hellbound that are locked out of hell will be housed in a temporary lake of fire between Heaven and hell. Posted by: Executor at April 10, 2003 01:49 PMExecutor, I like your style. I may have a job for you! Posted by: Dark Underlord at April 10, 2003 03:59 PMAHA, You mentioned the Ark Royal crew demanding the BBC coverage be switched off. The biased anti-war coverage has not gone unnoticed at home. The BBC however is a monolith of broadcasting and unlike commercial stations does not have to compete for an audience. Mind you its time to renew the charter very soon and the licence fee of £120-00 per TV set that comes with it. Given that the public and parliament are a little p****d off with the BBC to say the least things could get interesting. I am almost willing to sit through adverts myself to get decent coverage. I have been watching on CNN mostly. Oh and thanks to Angel thoughtz for that Baghdad Bob website tip. Jonah Posted by: Jonah8208 at April 10, 2003 05:31 PMSanguinius: I was trying not to equate Ignorance with Immorality. If someone is ignorant, one can be educated. Frenchy and his ilk, can at least read and understand these posts, yet he either cannot see this evil or supports this evil. Now about the force thingy. Some reports from some think tanks (can't come up with the exact one, sorry, I'll check) determined that France will become a majority fundamentalist muslim country within 20 years. France has nuclear weapons. Do you really want to deal with that kind of scenario? As for China, as a Mr. Quinn said to me, Diplomacy is saying "nice doggie" until you get a big enough stick. Remember, I said overwhelming force. Posted by: mj larkinssr at April 10, 2003 06:19 PMJonah, unfortunately, CNN isn't all that fair either, but if that's all you can get, you have to work with it. ;-) FRENCHMAN I KNOW WHO YOU ARE !!! Iraqi Information Minister Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf Quoting DoktorI from a couple of days back: "If France was running the war, the Iraqis would now be part of the French Republic. That's how they would deal with it!" Actually, I think he meant to say: "If France was running the war, the French would now be part of the Iraqi Republic. That's how they would deal with it!" Posted by: Rabid Rabbit at April 12, 2003 10:03 PMYo Frenchie, When France gets out of the Ivory Coast and writes off the Iraqi debt, then you can talk. Until then, STFU! Posted by: STFU at April 13, 2003 11:08 AM"Nice doggie"-- where will I find a big enough stick for China? or N. Korea for that matter? I find your definition of diplomacy engaging and laffed till me buns dropped off. Posted by: FR. Guido Sarducci at April 13, 2003 09:07 PMJimmygoogle, Quote: Okay bend over this boot is for you! Posted by: gruntboy at April 14, 2003 03:28 PMFrenchMan, You are right... Watch the Yanks, the Evil Occupiers, The greedy bunch, The Great Oppressors, Funny isn't it when the say GOD Bless USA ? Posted by: Zeos at April 19, 2003 05:28 AMABC News story: An international investigation conducted by ABCNEWS found widespread corruption in the U.N. program, which helped Saddam build his fortune in U.S. currency. "Everybody knew it, and those who were in a position to do something about it, were not doing anything," said Benon Sevan, the executive director of the Office of Iraq Program. When asked if that included him, he told ABCNEWS, "I have no power." The U.N. won a Nobel Peace Prize in 2001. Posted by: Thomas at May 23, 2003 01:05 AM |
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