ScrappleFace.com editor Scott Ott appeared today (5/15) on CNN.com LIVE as part of a panel of bloggers discussing military tribunals for terror suspects and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s various claims of ignorance about enhanced interrogation techniques. The other three panelists were from The Daily Kos, Center for American Progressive, and The Washington Examiner. Things get lively, especially toward the end.
78 responses so far ↓
1 R.A.M. // May 15, 2009 at 4:50 pm
What no comment from blabberingyetagain? It’s not like you need to waterboard any trolls to make them talk. Maybe to get them to shut up-YES!!!
He must still be over at the HuffingtonPost.com
2 JamesonLewis3rd // May 15, 2009 at 11:23 pm
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/05/15/gingrich-calls-pelosi-despicable-dishonest-vicious
3 JamesonLewis3rd // May 16, 2009 at 9:54 am
God Bless America
I ask this and every other needed blessing, through the all-sufficient merits, and all-prevailing Name of Jesus Christ, my only Lord and Savior.
http://gracegems.org/B/Macduff_Prayer.htm
4 JamesonLewis3rd // May 16, 2009 at 1:01 pm
http://blog.heritage.org/2009/05/16/words-of-warning-from-1940/
5 Darthmeister // May 17, 2009 at 9:05 am
Bush-haters Still Haven’t Read the “Torture” Memos
It’s kind of like all those Rush Limbaugh haters who haven’t actually listened to his program … okay, maybe they’ve listen to thirty minutes out of twenty years of progamming.
Keep in mind, Bush-haters, Obamabots and your typical LibDonk are the ones who are always preaching to the rest of us about “being informed”, “respecting those one disagrees with”, “being honest with the real facts” and being “open-minded about ideas which challenge ones own accepted dogmas” (as if liberals don’t have social and “moral” dogmas themselves, right?). Liberals are such self-righteous liars and hypocrites! Clearly they don’t and haven’t even practiced what they preach to the rest of us!
By contrast, as a conservative, I’ve only said that I’d be fair-minded after examining ideas and claims made by those on both sides of the aisle/argument. Like the Apostle Paul admonished, “Examine everything carefully, but hold fast to that which is good.” And it’s pretty clear Paul’s definition of “good” is vastly different than what modern liberal/socialists/commies/Islamofascists/Obamabots think is good.
6 JamesonLewis3rd // May 17, 2009 at 12:21 pm
http://www.redstate.com/blog/2009/05/17/wizard/
7 JamesonLewis3rd // May 17, 2009 at 5:21 pm
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/05/17/shocking-headline-some-left-souring-obama
8 gafisher // May 17, 2009 at 6:55 pm
The President struck a balanced tone in addressing the abortion issue today, advising pro-abortion forces to continue seeking alternatives to useless eaters while encouraging the opposing side, aborted babies, to pursue legal and political means to achieve their goals.
9 R.A.M. // May 18, 2009 at 12:12 am
Funny that “Barry” made no mention of, “Not wanting his daughters to be punished with a baby, if they make a “mistake” at that now, “not so great” Catholic Institution Notre Dame. After a lot of thought about Barry’s statement, it DOES make some sense. I am sure, more than once his mother, (and grandmother), wished she/they had not been punished with him!
After “Barry the baby killer” left Notre Dame, he came to Indianapolis to visit with his Muslim brother Representative Andre (Muslim) Carson. Yes, Andre at least freely admits he is a Muslim unlike Barry the liar.
Now here is a commercial:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMhbdd4wMNU
10 JamesonLewis3rd // May 18, 2009 at 5:24 am
http://www.redstate.com/blog/2009/05/17/the-indecent-president/
11 JamesonLewis3rd // May 18, 2009 at 5:37 am
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/baracks_epistle_to_the_egyptia.html
12 JamesonLewis3rd // May 18, 2009 at 8:01 am
Forrest Gump: Lieutenant Dan, what are you doing here?
Lieutenant Daniel Taylor: I’m here to try out my sea legs.
Forrest Gump: But you ain’t got no legs, Lieutenant Dan.
Lieutenant Daniel Taylor: [mildly irritated, but understanding] Yes… yes, I know that. You wrote me a letter, you idiot! And that’s why I’m running for POTUS!
13 boberinyetagain // May 18, 2009 at 9:11 am
Hey RAM, how about a shout out to JL3 for having 8 of 12 posts?
He’s got a lot to say…
14 gafisher // May 18, 2009 at 11:20 am
You’re falling ‘way behind, Bober Re#13.
15 onlineanalyst // May 18, 2009 at 11:38 am
How the NYT spiked the Obama/ACORN corruption story: http://spectator.org/blog/2009/05/18/new-york-times-finally-admits
Tell me again why tax dollars are feeding the ACORN beast.
Also, I have a link of info at the end of the last thread on Geithner’s continuing ineptness at Treasury and its implications for a crash and burn from which we may never survive.
Its time for the media to ask some hard questions of this administration with in-depth follow up. The PR fluff has exceeded the limits of acceptability.
16 Laughing@You // May 18, 2009 at 2:16 pm
“It’s kind of like all those Rush Limbaugh haters who haven’t actually listened to his program … okay, maybe they’ve listen to thirty minutes out of twenty years of progamming.”
I may be one of those you call a “modern liberal/socialists/commies/Islamofascists/Obamabots”, but I’m not sure.
Is there such a thing as an old-fashioned “liberal/socialists/commies/Islamofascists/Obamabot?
Moreover, can one be both socialist and communist at the same time?
Or, can one be an Islamofascist without being Muslim?
If one now holds the same views, as when he was a “Gorebot”, can he be an “Obamabot”?
You cite the Apostle Paul, how do you think you have anything in common with him. Your views seem to be entirely in contradiction to his ministry.
I have listened to Rush Limbaugh fairly often over the years. It is true, I don’t listen very long. I listen till my head hurts too much to continue.
I think it must be like cigarette smoking; after a while, the pain subsides, but by then you are addicted.
The same thing must happen with his “Kool-Aid”.
Clearly, you are a good example of what Kool-Aid does to ones thought processes.
I bet your face is just covered with cherry stains isn’t it?
Everthink?
17 Laughing@You // May 18, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Dear Fred,
I’m sorry about your computer problems, but I prayed that the Lord intervene on your behalf, and for the well being of your soul.
I’m afraid this may be the answer to my prayers.
One day, In The Sweet Bye And Bye, we will sit down at the table of brotherhood together, and we will work it all out in the Presence of our God.
Everthink?
18 Laughing@You // May 18, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Once more. MORON!!
Everthink?
19 onlineanalyst // May 18, 2009 at 3:40 pm
We’re going to need a bigger graph.
20 Laughing@You // May 18, 2009 at 5:17 pm
Sorry,
Re: 18
MORON, thy name is RAM.
Everthink?
21 R.A.M. // May 18, 2009 at 10:12 pm
gafisher re#14: The reason there are not more posts from him is, he didn’t work during the weekend, or he could have spent more time on the Internet posting, (AND stealing time and money from his employer that he does during the week!)
Maybe I should have said he didn’t show up at work during the weekend. Obviously he is doing little “work” there!
“Yapping@You” got all excited on the previous “Pelosi First Heard of-thread”, when I said I might understand Obama statement, “If my daughters make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby”! I said it was PROBABLY because his mother and grandmother were punished with him!
“Yapping” cried/whined/squealed on comment #49, “Is nothing “out of bounds” to you?”
He “it” makes a statement like that after all the vile things he/it has said, then calls me a moron here.
The only logic responce to this insane moron is:
Now here is a new promo for the TV show for “Big Ears’ and his sidekick ‘NoBrain”:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMhbdd4wMNU
22 Newsman // May 18, 2009 at 10:20 pm
R.A.M. Did you perchance spring forth from the lower end of the gene pool ?
23 R.A.M. // May 18, 2009 at 10:54 pm
#22: What are you still doing here Newsboy/Saddam?
I thought you were leaving after “outing” yourself recently, (as if anybody could tell the difference between your two, or MORE, personalities!)
Sorry, I forgot you libs are ALL liars.
I must have struck a nerve with that libs “punishing their moms by being born” thing.
Sorry if the truth hurts boys!—NOT!!!
In fact I see ALL of you as Stewart Smalley standing in front of your mirrors saying, “I’m good enough, smart enough, and dog gone it, people like me,” trying to convince yourselves of something that is obviously false!
24 gafisher // May 18, 2009 at 10:56 pm
R.A.M. Re#21: “I said it was PROBABLY because his mother and grandmother were punished with him!”
They deserved it; why did the rest of us get punished?
Don’t let the trolls bother you; their comments are often a pointer to the best posts here.
25 mindknumbed kid // May 18, 2009 at 11:49 pm
Nancy Pelosi’s “various claims of ignorance” seem to be well founded.
Actually this is all nothing more than an attempt on the dem’s part to score more public opinion points. The media is complicit in their plan to erode any support the republicans might be holding on to.
Publis opinion polling is a crck anyhow, the media has chosen to take sides with the liberals long ago, they pant and drool over their heroes while they snarl and besmirch everyone who doesn’t represent their views and ideas. Since Reagan took office in 1980 they have been doubling down their efforts to defeat us.
1 Peter 4:4
Wherein they think it strange that ye run not with them to the same excess of riot, speaking evil of you
26 Laughing@You // May 19, 2009 at 1:19 am
“Don’t let the trolls bother you; their comments are often a pointer to the best posts here.”
Yeah, right!
Everthink?
27 Laughing@You // May 19, 2009 at 1:25 am
“Since Reagan took office in 1980 they have been doubling down their efforts to defeat us.”
It looks pretty much like our efforts have been successful, doesn’t it? Actually, you all deserve most of the credit.
Everthink?
28 onlineanalyst // May 19, 2009 at 9:26 am
Here is something for AG Holder to chew on. The breach of ethics and politicization of policy differences under Holder’s watch flies in the face of the rule of law.
29 upnorthlurkin // May 19, 2009 at 10:23 am
Great piece here . The only part that will hurt is having half your brain sucked out…..
30 boberinyetagain // May 19, 2009 at 10:46 am
Only 7 smiley faces on this whole thread…good work RAM, on your way to becoming an adult. Who said it could never happen? I was never worried.
31 Godfrey // May 19, 2009 at 11:39 am
Hello there, Darth - long time no see. Hope things are well with you.
I saw this news linked off Drudge and immediately thought of you. We’ve had a discussion or two (or three!) where you talked about the lack of transitional fossils being a “hole” in evolutionary theory. What do yo think of Ida?
32 Laughing@You // May 19, 2009 at 1:39 pm
“transitional fossils”
Not here! This main repository of non-transitional fossils, petrified dinosaur eggs, and 1929 Willys Whippet Automobiles!
Everthink?
33 Laughing@You // May 19, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Opps,
Please insert “is the” between “here” and “this”, then send me five copies, OK?
Everthink?
34 Laughing@You // May 19, 2009 at 1:53 pm
Nagnabit,
Make that between “this” and “main”!!!
Everthink?
35 Laughing@You // May 19, 2009 at 2:52 pm
Lurch,
Re: 29
Your link refers to an American Thinker article which says in part, “I’d like to be a liberal because it’s ever so much easier to allow others to form my opinions for me instead of researching an issue myself. That always gets me in trouble, especially when the facts I discover diverge from the latest politically correct consensus.”
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/i_wish_i_were_a_liberal.html
As you can see by my posts, we liberals always bend with the wind, and go out of our way to avoid the risk of offending any minority group, including the latest of these the Republican Party.
“… to allow others to form my opinions for me …”.
This must be true, but it is simply amazing that all you here, and Rush Limbaugh, and Sean Hannity, and the Republicans left in Congress all seem to arrive at the same conclusions at the same time!
“… to allow others to form my opinions for me instead of researching an issue myself.”
This also, must be true, but it is simply amazing that your research ALWAYS excludes any source whose ideology may be different from your own!
Your distain for main stream media (MSM), and your hatred for everything non-Conservative limits your “research” greatly.
In fact, you seek out only those sources which support your views, and validate your predetermined conclusions.
This, while I, and others, notably boberinyetagain, on the other hand walk among our opponents, challenging their conclusions and offering the opportunity for you to look at things from a different perspective.
We suffer your insults happily in the hope of rescuing even one of you from Limbaugh Kool-Aid addiction.
Talk Radio today, is filled with “Free Thinkers” like yourself, all arriving at the same conclusion independently.
Everthink?
36 boberinyetagain // May 19, 2009 at 3:24 pm
“happily” is a tad strong…”put up with” is more accurate.
37 Laughing@You // May 19, 2009 at 3:39 pm
“Poetic License,” don’t you know. Still, we are a noble lot!
Everthink?
38 boberinyetagain // May 19, 2009 at 4:21 pm
I’m guessing that a few other adjectives will surface shortly
39 upnorthlurkin // May 19, 2009 at 5:54 pm
Wait a minute, Chuckles it’s you (and your ilk) who deem it necessary to come to a conservative satire blog and insult us. You rarely come to debate any issues…merely tell us how stupid we are. Well, my view of the greatness of our country is very different than yours. I feel no need to apologize for that greatness. We are still the greatest country in the world and will recover from any damage your side does. The American Thinker article just spells it out well. Today’s progressive liberalism is a gutless, immature choice.
40 Laughing@You // May 19, 2009 at 6:56 pm
Lurch,
My post 35 was in direct rebuttal to the link you felt worthy enough to post in your 29.
As far as my being unwelcome here is concerned; if you want to spend all your time insulting Democrats, it seems only fair to allow Democrats to respond!
Republicans slander the opposition, suppress and distort the truth, steal elections, bankrupt the nation, waste the lives of thousands, and torture people; all the while touting themselves as “The Party of Family Values”.
Everthink?
PS The next time you make that remark, I will provide a more complete list.
41 mindknumbed kid // May 19, 2009 at 7:05 pm
I haven’t heard this from Rush or Hannity, not even a mention of it here on Scrappleface. So I must have come up with this all on my very ownsome. Whenever I see old Nan it makes me wonder if the country is so bad off financially that we can’t afford to fit her with a lampshade…
Beauty is said to be but skin deep, but ugly on the other hand… and butt ugly goes beyond the bone!
42 mindknumbed kid // May 19, 2009 at 7:17 pm
This is my comment about the whole Notre Dame commencement hubbub. 2 Corinthians 6:14
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
43 Laughing@You // May 19, 2009 at 10:21 pm
MNK,
Corinthians 6:14
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?”
Somehow, I don’t think St. Paul was referring to political parties in the United States, nineteen centuries in the future.
I do, however, believe that this verse is for you.
“You blind guides, straining out the gnat while you gulp down the camel!”
Matthew 23:24 (Weymouth New Testament)
Everthink?
44 mindknumbed kid // May 20, 2009 at 12:00 am
Fortunately that wasn’t the context I used the verse in, where did you get anything about political anything from it? Other than yes, Obama is a politician.
45 Laughing@You // May 20, 2009 at 12:36 am
MNK,
What was you context? Can it be any different than your normal judgmental misapplications. Please explain.
Everthink?
46 upnorthlurkin // May 20, 2009 at 10:57 am
Chuckles, I think your mirror has a big crack in it….Your third paragraph is the dhimmi party to the max, dude. There isn’t an ounce of truth in that whole post!
And I wouldn’t ever attempt to dis-invite you from commenting….this isn’t my blog…You provide way too much comic relief!
I’m just mystified why so many of you are still so danged angry!!
47 mindknumbed kid // May 20, 2009 at 11:20 am
Since when is the Catholic church a political party?
48 boberinyetagain // May 20, 2009 at 11:46 am
Since Thursday May 7th, 2009. You didn’t get the memo?
Happy to help
49 mindknumbed kid // May 20, 2009 at 12:02 pm
Headline: Iran says it tests missile, Israel within range (AP)
Meanwhile the world continues to advise Israel to do nothing, save a little talk.
Psalm 120:7
I am for peace: but when I speak, they are for war.
50 Randi Rhoids // May 20, 2009 at 12:04 pm
CIA LIED!
SPEAKER CRIED!
Hey! Hey! BHO!
When are you going to close Gitmo?
Oh, the horror!
Is it OK for the left to devour their own yet or am I ahead of schedule?
51 boberinyetagain // May 20, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Israel is a big country that has and will make decisions all by themselves, just like grownups are wont to do, just as they should.
52 mindknumbed kid // May 20, 2009 at 12:17 pm
When a representative of light embraces those that promote and approve of the ways of darkness, the light is diminished.
http://tinyurl.com/oopaqb
53 mindknumbed kid // May 20, 2009 at 12:21 pm
“Israel is a big country”…must be my eyes, their plot of real estate looks rather small to me.
54 boberinyetagain // May 20, 2009 at 12:40 pm
They’re small but they’re wiry…Japan looks small on a map too but they’ve managed to raise a ruckus now and again…
55 mindknumbed kid // May 20, 2009 at 1:58 pm
http://www.raptureready.com/featured/funk/armageddon.html
If “all nations” were to allied against the inhabitants of such a tiny piece of real estate, they would need to be more than wiry…even Wesley (the Princess Bride) knew he had limitations in battle.
56 boberinyetagain // May 20, 2009 at 2:06 pm
Luckily so far at least “all nations” are hardly lined up against them.
Please try to find and read an columnist for the Phila Inquirer named Trudy Rubin. She has a stunningly good grasp of the ME and what goes on there. Today she pointed out what Obama should have said in his recent meeting but instead danced around it.
In short Israel needs to commit to the 2 state solution and they need to do so now. Keeping an entire nation hostage is not winning the hearts and minds of their neighbors (most of whom don’t like Iran much either) that would likely ally with Israel should they choose to be reasonable.
57 boberinyetagain // May 20, 2009 at 2:07 pm
oh, and Princess Bride is one of my top 25 movies of all time…
58 boberinyetagain // May 20, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Are we reading fulfillment to prophecy each day in our local newspapers?
Nope
59 Laughing@You // May 20, 2009 at 2:53 pm
MNK,
“Since when is the Catholic church a political party?”
They have acted politically, and they are a party to a legal dispute about abortion.
Since at least the Vietnam War, for the most part, the Roman Catholic Church has been against the taking of human life, for any reason.
To the extent they fail to treat all members of the last administration in the same way, they have also become partisan.
Clearly, this “Pro-life” stand of yours isn’t pro life. Most who claim this position demand capitol punishment, and are strong proponents of war. You don’t bat an eye at the children killed as “collateral damage” in Iraq or Afghanistan. Still you rise in support of those who led us into a preemptive war based on false information.
Information widely disseminated at this site, and by most here!
It is most unlikely Roe v. Wade will ever be reversed, regardless who is elected!
The Republican Party will come no closer to reversing it than they did in delivering an “Anti-Flag Burning Amendment” and several other big “wedge issues”. “Wedge Issues” were not the creation of Karl Rove, but he has used them more than anybody else. He has used them to the extent that Republicans don’t vote FOR anyone, THEY VOTE AGAINST HIS OPPONENT!!
Smear, lie, suggest and hint. Make the Republicans feel afraid. Then turn truth on it’s head to create some bogus religious issue and wait for the televangelists to exploit it. Religion seems to be, in the hands of extremists, be they Islamic or Christian, they’re greatest tool.
Now, you oppose an honest leader, who seeks to greatly reduce the number of abortions in our country!
As President Obama, has correctly said, “…nobody is pro-abortion.”
Everthink?
60 Laughing@You // May 20, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Their
61 Laughing@You // May 20, 2009 at 4:58 pm
“I’m just mystified why so many of you are still so danged angry!!”
It is as though Republicans had abducted a member of our family, had their way with her, and then surrendered her back to us as though nothing happened.
Now, we watch them strut around as though they are innocent. It is upsetting!
Everthink?
62 mindknumbed kid // May 20, 2009 at 6:51 pm
“Now, you oppose an honest leader, who seeks to greatly reduce the number of abortions in our country!”
Sen. Obama received the following scores on NARAL Pro-Choice America’s Congressional Record on Choice.
* 2007: 100 percent
* 2006: 100 percent
* 2005: 100 percent
Where’s his change on the issue?
63 Fred Sinclair // May 20, 2009 at 7:09 pm
GOOD NEWS DEPT. - my friend from church just called to tell me that he’s ordered a “Refurbished” Mac from Apple and I should get it hopefully by Monday. Said I can repay him over time. So I am thanking God for an wonderful blesssing. Hopefully his grandson (who is a computer whiz-kid) cann salvage my hard drive. Will let you know as it happens.
64 mindknumbed kid // May 20, 2009 at 8:30 pm
re : Obama being “anti-abortion”. 2 Timothy 3:13
But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
That just about sums it up.
65 gafisher // May 20, 2009 at 8:39 pm
MKK Re#49: “Israel within range …”
Further proof that the so-called “2-State Solution” is nothing more than a ruse. Palestine (the Latinization of Philistine, by the way) would be a territorial impossibility in the aftermath of an Iranian nuclear attack on Israel.
66 gafisher // May 20, 2009 at 8:52 pm
Bober Re#51: “Israel is a big country that has and will make decisions all by themselves …”
Bober Re#56: “In short Israel needs to commit to the 2 state solution and they need to do so now.”
So which is it? Israel has to make their own decision, and we’ll tell them what it’s to be? Didn’t the last election have something to do with getting the US out of the business of making decisions for other nations?
67 Laughing@You // May 20, 2009 at 10:50 pm
“Sen. Obama received the following scores on NARAL Pro-Choice America’s Congressional Record on Choice.
* 2007: 100 percent
* 2006: 100 percent
* 2005: 100 percent”
I don’t see any inconstancy here, but for the record, what is your source on this information?
The National Association for the Repeal of Abortion Laws. “NARAL” Pro-Choice America believes that you do indeed have to fight for your rights. The group is dedicated to defending reproductive choice for women as well as supporting policies that improve women’s health and decrease the need for abortions.
http://www.answers.com/topic/naral-pro-choice-america
You ask, “Where’s his change on the issue?”
I don’t believe I said, or implied, there was a change in President Obama’s position.
Post 64
re : Obama being “anti-abortion”. 2 Timothy 3:13
But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
That just about sums it up.
For me too! That description fits today’s conservative movement perfectly.
Everthink?
68 Laughing@You // May 20, 2009 at 11:08 pm
“So which is it? Israel has to make their own decision, and we’ll tell them what it’s to be?”
Israel is free to make it’s own decisions, but if those decisions are not consistent with the interest of the United States, Israel has no right to expect our support. Besides, we have too many Chickenhawks, and not enough warriors.
We should defend Israel only if they accept our counsel!
Everthink?
69 gafisher // May 21, 2009 at 9:29 am
>> “We should defend Israel only if they accept our counsel! ”
Israel isn’t asking for us to “defend” them so much as they’re asking us to stop undermining them. Our “counsel” under the current administration has been tantamount to demanding their surrender. What will be our equivalent for “defending” them — daisycutters on Tel Aviv?
70 Laughing@You // May 21, 2009 at 9:49 am
“Israel isn’t asking for us to “defend” them so much as they’re asking us to stop undermining them.”
Not at the moment, but they have every expectation that we will, without their having to ask!
“Our “counsel” under the current administration has been tantamount to demanding their surrender.”
There is no basis for this statement whatever! Even hyperbole must have some remote basis in reality.
“What will be our equivalent for “defending” them — daisycutters on Tel Aviv?”
How foolish this statement is! As you sought to emphasize, Israel is a sovereign state; not one of the United States.
Are you Israeli or American? You cannot be both. Do not act against U. S. interest for the benefit of Israel.
Everthink?
71 boberinyetagain // May 21, 2009 at 10:14 am
If Israel has any sense they’ll accept a 2 state solution. There is no inconsistency between “sovereign state” and “2 states”. They agreed to 2 states, the reniged on their word, kept building “settlements”.
If they can’t make good choices they should not expect nor get support from us. If they can work towards peace they will get support from us and most of the rest of the ME in theor fight against Iran…otherwise they can be/should be on their own.
And you’d be surprised how well they can/will defend themselves whatever the decision…again…don’t let small size fool you…again…Japan is mighty small and they decided to attempt to dominate the entire planet not that long ago (you can look it up, they did pretty well for a while…against EVERYONE else, not one measly country)
72 gafisher // May 21, 2009 at 11:48 am
Agreed re Israel’s defensive abilities, Bober — in fact, the U.S. buys some of its best defensive hardware from the Israelis. But it’s simply not true that Israel reneged on its concession to the Palestinians; in fact, the PA gained complete authority over its territory — which it quickly turned into a massive military base from which to launch (both figuratively and literally) attacks against Israel while doing nothing to maintain the higher standard of living the Palestinian people had enjoyed under Israeli control.
Before chiding Israel for defending itself, perhaps the U.S. Administration should make an effort to get the Palestinians to drop (which they have specifically refused to do) their fundamental assertion that Israel must be destroyed, a principle which certainly seems antithetical to the hope of a “2-State” solution.
73 boberinyetagain // May 21, 2009 at 11:56 am
TWO DOZEN OUTPOSTS
Half a million Jews live in the 100 “authorized” settlements built on West Bank land Israel seized in the 1967 Middle East war, including Arab East Jerusalem.
The World Court says they are illegal. The United States and Europe Union agree and regard them as obstacles to peace.
Israel disputes this but acknowledges at least two dozen enclaves were built in recent years without approval. Israeli leaders have pledged for years to remove them, as promised under a U.S.-backed peace “road map” that sets the goal of an Arab peace with Israel and a Palestinian state alongside it.
Granted, Hamas is not helping matters but then an objective look at our process might find 2 very different “cultures” in the USA that seem to work at crossed purposes…and not particularly for the common good even though we’re allegedly on the same “team”…
But Israel did “agree” to stop that/take them down but they’ve done neither thing…
74 boberinyetagain // May 21, 2009 at 11:59 am
I dunno, if Mexico and Canada decided to cut off most food and medical to us (and were wildly sucessful in this effort creating tremendous hardship) and began to build towns in our country to boot I believe we’d get mad and perhaps even retaliate.
Your thoughts?
75 onlineanalyst // May 21, 2009 at 10:00 pm
In case you missed an exceptional speech by a very remarkable man, here it is. In its purpose, its completeness, and its summation of events and their rationale, the speech tells all one needs to know about statesmanship and a high regard for the Constitution and the American people that it protects.
76 R.A.M. // May 22, 2009 at 12:31 am
OLA: My thoughts exactly! Cheney seems more Presidential than even Bush did. He has the guts to fire back at Obama’s weak, spineless terror policy, (although Cheney’s speech was planned, and it appears Obama got a copy of it, then made his “pre Cheney speech”, to make it look as if Cheney was responding to him.)
If there were more like Cheney in the Republican party, I would still call myself a Republican instead of a Conservative.
Now get ready to use the “troll scroll” key!
77 JamesonLewis3rd // May 22, 2009 at 4:27 am
“Fascism should rightly be called Corporatism, as it is the merger of corporate and government power.” ~~~Benito Mussolini
78 Laughing@You // May 22, 2009 at 12:52 pm
Sad, so sad, … tragic really …
Everthink?
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