(2008-09-17) — Bolstering his reputation as a uniter who rises above petty party politics, Sen. Barack Obama said today that he has asked his top supporter, Sen. Hillary Clinton, to reconsider her decision to back out of an event at the United Nations after she learned that Gov. Sarah Palin would also attend.
“As everyone knows, I have a long track record of reaching across the aisle to get things done,” said the Democrat presidential candidate. “If terrorist dictatorships can come together with peace-loving democracies at the U.N., then why shouldn’t Hillary go there and shake hands with Sarah?”
Gov. Palin said she was disappointed that she won’t have the opportunity next week to meet Sen. Clinton, whom she called “another tough, accomplished woman.”
“You know the difference between Hillary Clinton and a pit bull?” Gov. Palin asked. “Trousers.”
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1 gafisher // Sep 17, 2008 at 8:57 am
You know the difference between Hillary and Obama? Androgen.
Would a combined Palin-Hillary appearance be a Pillory?
2 camojack // Sep 17, 2008 at 9:14 am
Know the difference between Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin?
Let me count the ways…
3 JamesonLewis3rd // Sep 17, 2008 at 9:23 am
Personally, I’m glad The Hill & Bill Show won’t be there.
4 Fred Sinclair // Sep 17, 2008 at 10:10 am
gafisher/camojack/JL3rd #’s 1/2/3:
I don’t believe I’m wrong (in fact I know I’m not wrong) the term “Christian Democrat” has to be the #1 Oxymoron of both the 20th and 21st Centuries.
There was a time when a good number of Democrats were Christians but that was before they allowed their party to be hi-jacked by the “Left Wing Liberals”
A person can be a Democrat or a person can be a Christian but based on the Bible’s definition of a Christian it is impossible to be both at the same time. It would be comparable to being a teetotaler and a drunk at the same time. Never happen!
So, with that in mind the question “Know the difference between Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin?” The primary difference is that one is a Christian and one is a Church going psuedo-Christian.
pseudo- (also pseud- before a vowel)
combining form
1 supposed or purporting to be but not really so; false; not genuine :
2 resembling or imitating
Any other apparent differences are inconsequential at best.
B.O. STINKS
5 R.A.M. // Sep 17, 2008 at 10:25 am
Do you know the difference between Hillary and a pit bull?
300 pounds!
The only time O’Bama has “reached across the aisle” was to stab someone from the other side in the back!
I have a feeling, Hillary is “silently” rooting for Palin to beat O’Bama!
6 Maggie // Sep 17, 2008 at 10:48 am
Hillary is just angry because she can’t change a diaper with her right hand, text message with her left hand,and send email with her toes simultaniously, while in a tanning bed.
OT.My oldest son is defending his disortation for his PHD. this morning at 11Am est.(proud mom)
7 onlineanalyst // Sep 17, 2008 at 11:51 am
Hillary begged off because she thought that the rally played into “partisan” politics? Puh-lee-uz! How about seeing the rally against Ahmadaboutjihad’s visit to the UN as an American concern and show of unanimity against the Iranian president who paints us as an enemy?
8 gafisher // Sep 17, 2008 at 12:19 pm
“… a uniter who rises above petty party politics …”
Is it “rises above” or “reigns over?” Similar but different.
9 mig // Sep 17, 2008 at 12:22 pm
“Obama’s reaction to this sudden turn in his fortunes has been nothing less that sheer and visible disorientation. It’s obvious that he simply doesn’t know which way to turn, and his confusion has led him to launch a sleazy campaign to destroy Gov. Palin’s reputation—no matter what it takes—before she destroys his presidential hopes.†—Michael Reagan
10 Shelly // Sep 17, 2008 at 12:30 pm
Why doesn’t he just send out an e-mail to his listeners to clog the phone lines of the UN like he does radio stations who dare disagree with his stupendous ego?
Or negotitate with them in secret, like he tried to do with the Iraqi government?
I’m assuming he needed a teleprompter to make these comments.
11 Hawkeye // Sep 17, 2008 at 12:49 pm
OLA #7,
My thoughts exactly!
Hillary’s ego as a former Presidential candidate will not allow her to be compared with a mere VP candidate. Can you say “snob”?
12 gafisher // Sep 17, 2008 at 12:53 pm
Speaking of uniters, Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin are in quintessentially Blue-State Michigan today and being received with incredible enthusiasm. They’re scheduled to speak at my daughter’s college later today; tickets (free, just for crowd control) were all gone days in advance. Local TV coverage [here] if you want to see the fun.
13 J. Cougar Melancholy // Sep 17, 2008 at 12:59 pm
Fred #4. It was that kind of religious fervor and astounding ignorance that sent two planes into the WTC.
Scary.
14 mindknumbed kid // Sep 17, 2008 at 1:22 pm
JCM - Wrong.
15 mindknumbed kid // Sep 17, 2008 at 1:32 pm
Pseudo-Christianity lacks one key ingredient, God. Other than that there isn’t too much wrong with it. As Fred and I have oft opined, it is the difference between being a Christian and being religious, as simple as it is most folks just don’t get it.
Matthew 7:13
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Following the crowd has a great price in the end.
16 mindknumbed kid // Sep 17, 2008 at 1:56 pm
Is this Barack trying to push same sex “marriage” at the UN?
I know for sure that Palin (Lady Sarah) is NOT her type.
17 everthink // Sep 17, 2008 at 1:56 pm
J. Cougar Melancholy,
Well said!
ET
18 mindknumbed kid // Sep 17, 2008 at 2:05 pm
Proof indeed that it takes a convoluted mind to believe convoluted drivel. You guys ought to get together and do a little bonding, leave some room for us God loving Christians to discuss these things that are above your ability to comprehend. Once McCain is elected you can come back and tell us how we stole the election again. But remember, we told you that the empty suit doesn’t have a chance, still too many out here that haven’t fallen victim to the media’s attempt to stupify us
19 mindknumbed kid // Sep 17, 2008 at 2:15 pm
This may have been a little more fitting on the abortion thread, but it is good for today too.
C. H. Spurgeon
“Bring him unto me.”—Mark 9:19.
DESPAIRINGLY the poor disappointed father turned away from the disciples to their Master. His son was in the worst possible condition, and all means had failed, but the miserable child was soon delivered from the evil one when the parent in faith obeyed the Lord Jesus’ word, “Bring him unto me.” Children are a precious gift from God, but much anxiety comes with them. They may be a great joy or a great bitterness to their parents; they may be filled with the Spirit of God, or possessed with the spirit of evil. In all cases, the Word of God gives us one receipt for the curing of all their ills, “Bring him unto me.” O for more agonizing prayer on their behalf while they are yet babes! Sin is there, let our prayers begin to attack it. Our cries for our offspring should precede those cries which betoken their actual advent into a world of sin. In the days of their youth we shall see sad tokens of that dumb and deaf spirit which will neither pray aright, nor hear the voice of God in the soul, but Jesus still commands, “Bring them unto me.” When they are grown up they may wallow in sin and foam with enmity against God; then when our hearts are breaking we should remember the great Physician’s words, “Bring them unto me.” Never must we cease to pray until they cease to breathe. No case is hopeless while Jesus lives.
The Lord sometimes suffers His people to be driven into a corner that they may experimentally know how necessary He is to them. Ungodly children, when they show us our own powerlessness against the depravity of their hearts, drive us to flee to the strong for strength, and this is a great blessing to us. Whatever our morning’s need may be, let it like a strong current bear us to the ocean of divine love. Jesus can soon remove our sorrow, He delights to comfort us. Let us hasten to Him while He waits to meet us.
20 Fred Sinclair // Sep 17, 2008 at 2:30 pm
Conan finally said something funny:
The other day John McCain appeared on the show “The View,†and one of the hosts accused McCain of being a liar. She may have a point, because McCain started the interview by saying, “Ladies, you look beautiful.â€
IN GOD WE TRUST
21 Fred Sinclair // Sep 17, 2008 at 3:06 pm
Everyone is entitled to their honest opinion. “Everyone” includes me. as well as meandering trolls. I am of the honest opinion that Jesus would not promote the murder of babies in the womb; babies partly in birthing or babies who survive a botched abortion.
Nor is there anywhere in the Scriptures that He would support or promote an activity that His Father condemns as an abomination.
Lev. 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
Deut. 7:26 Neither shalt thou bring an abomination into thine house, lest thou be a cursed thing like it: but thou shalt utterly detest it, and thou shalt utterly abhor it; for it is a cursed thing.
Therefore it is a matter of intelligent reasoning to understand that anyone who is part of a party that supports these two matters - it is impossible for that person to be a Christian.
Now the good news is that anyone who is in that position can become a Christian “(2Pet. 3:9) The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.)
Of course when anyone does ‘come to repentance’ the basics of repentance involves turning one’s back on former sin and trying to live as a Christian. (Titus 3:8) “This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men.”
The murder of babies and the promotion of an abomination cannot possibly come under the guise of ‘good works’. Promoting these things and simultaneously calling oneself a “Christian” only proves beyond reasonable doubt that the individual is a liar and the truth is not in him. (1John 2:4) “He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.”
IN GOD WE TRUST
22 gafisher // Sep 17, 2008 at 3:46 pm
MKK Re#18: Don’s judge so quickly — Misanthropy and eTinkerbelle may be referring to the 5th video on [this] page, Rosie’s documentary proof of Christian terrorists.
23 Possumtrot // Sep 17, 2008 at 5:03 pm
Hey, kids, let’s go easy on Hillary. She just got out of the hospital.
Yah, she was in there to have her prostate checked. She’s doing just fine, and will be out singing duets with Barbra Streisand in no time.
Taking out the garbage in a fully-armed state on Scorpion Hill…
24 mindknumbed kid // Sep 17, 2008 at 5:10 pm
Good to hear news from the possum den, don’t be a stranger!
re#21 - Amen, but those types raely let truth affect their attempts to think.
25 Fred Sinclair // Sep 17, 2008 at 5:13 pm
click on site below for some laughs and be sure to turn up the volume! The latest Jib-Jab.
http://www.peteyandpetunia.com/VoteHere/VoteHere.htm
IN GOD WE TRUST
26 everthink // Sep 17, 2008 at 5:14 pm
Hey Possum!
Where yuh been?
Packing those “9mm” P232s are you?
ET
27 Libby Gone // Sep 17, 2008 at 5:28 pm
Funny! Scott,sir !
Trousers.
but you forget, Hillary has that chest hair thing too…………
opps! I wasn’t looking! Honest!
LOL!
28 J. Cougar Melancholy // Sep 17, 2008 at 6:54 pm
Fred,
That JibJab is awesome! Did The Great Santini write that?! Is he still around?
ET! What is UP my man?!
29 everthink // Sep 17, 2008 at 7:01 pm
Don’t worry about the value of your money. Remember, that idiot of yours has an MBA!
ET
30 mindknumbed kid // Sep 17, 2008 at 7:30 pm
No big deal, that "Obamaton" poster was probably et, and he doesn't seem to think the second coming is within sight either. I say never underestimate God, never think that you have everything "all figured out" because you have no concept of what he knows or what he might be up to regarding the second coming. God is a three part being that is one, yet Christ says he doesn't know "when", only the Father knows when. But didn't Jesus say "I and my Father are one"?
Don't tell me what you understand, it is nothing compared to what we cannot know (yet).
31 mig // Sep 17, 2008 at 8:06 pm
Coug- now I know that you have had manners in the past, I would hope you could show some now. We lost The Great Santini. You know that. You remember that. You shouldn’t lower yourself to such a mean spirit. Go back to your little pink houses and disagree all you want, but don’t be disrespectful to our dearly departed.
32 mig // Sep 17, 2008 at 8:09 pm
Interesting numbers:
-Since 2002, the percentage saying that suicide bombing and other forms of violence against civilians are justified to defend Islam from its enemies has declined in most predominantly Muslim countries surveyed. For instance, in 2002 roughly three-in-four Lebanese Muslims (74%) said such attacks could often or sometimes be justified; today, 32% take this view.
- Opinions about Osama bin Laden have followed a similar trend. Only three years ago, about six-in-ten Jordanian Muslims (61%) voiced at least some confidence in the al Qaeda leader; today, just 19% express a positive view. In 2003, 20% of Lebanese Muslims and 15% of Turkish Muslims had positive views of bin Laden; today, his confidence ratings have plummeted to the low single digits (3% in Turkey and 2% in Lebanon). Still, substantial numbers of Muslims continue to express confidence in bin Laden in Nigeria (58%), Indonesia (37%) and Pakistan (34%).
Read the full report: http://pewglobal.org/reports/cache.php?ReportID=262
33 Darthmeister // Sep 17, 2008 at 10:58 pm
Some random thoughts:
In light of how Oblahblah is constantly engaged in sliming Sarah Palin, does that mean he’s moved down the ticket and is now running as VP? Or is he so stupid that he thinks she’s running for President?
I guess the choice is clear this November, either vote for Hero or vote for Zero.
Barack Messiah Obama’s list of accomplishments that truly benefitted his fellow Americans could fit on the back of a business card … okay, okay, half a business card in fourteen point Times Roman print.
What the left ascribes to racism as to why people will vote against Barry Hussein is actually something quite different. More accurately it’s something along the lines of him being such an inexperienced, arrogant and unaccomplished political opportunist that it transcends whatever color barriers that may exist. And empty suit is still an empty suit no matter what color it is.
Too bad liberal true believers are so overwhelmed by the light of The Chosen One’s teleprompter that they can’t see their king has no clothes.
At one libertarian blogsite one enlightened, compassionate, progressive Obamaton poster mocked Sarah Palin for believing the Second Coming may happen in our lifetime. In response a conservative blogger asked the Obamaton what was so funny about that when libtards believe the Second Coming has already happened in the form of Barack Obama! Muwa … muwahahahahahahahaharhar!
34 Darthmeister // Sep 17, 2008 at 11:06 pm
Economist Dr. Peter Wallison a few months ago:
For a decade reformers have tried to persuade Congress that they were allowing a serious risk to the government’s credit to develop in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, but few lawmakers would take action.
One of the reasons for this was the extraordinary power of Fannie and Freddie. They not only spent close to $150 million in lobbying over the last decade (my note: over $600,ooo found its way into Barack Obama’s pockets), but they also got their constituents—the securities industry, the homebuilders and the realtors—all powerful industries that depend on Fannie and Freddie’s largesse—to support their sole legislative objective: the defeat of any attempt to control their growth. Congress, as usual knuckled under to the special interest.
However, a very small number of lawmakers saw this problem for what it was, and were willing to stand up to the power of Fannie and Freddie—and I am proud to say that John McCain was one of them. In 2005, he joined a small group of Republican Senators to cosponsor the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act, the strongest legislation introduced up to that time to control Fannie and Freddie. In a statement, he noted that “For years I have been concerned about the regulatory structure that governs Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac…and the sheer magnitude of these companies and the role they play in the housing market…If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie and Freddie pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.â€
These were prophetic words, given what we know now, but they did not spring from a sudden conversion in that year. Three years earlier, McCain had introduced legislation—co-sponsored with the House Democratic leader Dick Gephardt—to create a Corporate Subsidy Reform Commission. The purpose of this group was to eliminate what McCain called “corporate welfareâ€. . . .
…By contrast, Barack Obama was accepting Fannie’s political contributions - and inviting its former CEO to head his vice presidential selection contrast. On the surge and the mortgage crisis, John McCain was both prescient and brave, while Barack Obama was opportunistic and wrong.
And that’s the unvarnished truth.
35 mindknumbed kid // Sep 17, 2008 at 11:07 pm
Does a President really control the value of the dollar? There is nothing Federal about the “Federal Reserve”. Congress passes laws and regulations, right? So, who is it that is running Congress these days?
It’s like the stupid ad from MoveOn about McCain’s friends…how ’bout someone making a video ad about Obama’s friends? I saw a bumper sticker on some woman’s old Buick yesterday saying that when Bush took office gas was $1.43 per gallon…and the point is? Who is ecstatic about the prices being this high? And who keeps us from drilling? Stupid people can be lead around by their noses and never even figure out someone else is directing their path. Go ahead and follow the bread crumbs you’ll make it to where they want you.
36 RedRum151 // Sep 17, 2008 at 11:55 pm
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37 everthink // Sep 18, 2008 at 12:05 am
“Does a President really control the value of the dollar?”
Well, your numbness, if his “emergency” spending allocations like the war he trumped up in Iraq, at at least a trillion dollars, and all the trailer and other waste spent on the hurricanes, ties the hands of congress. Tied because he holds our troops hostage, and the hurricane victims need aid, even though much of which is WASTED by his incompetence.
He has maxed-out our nation credit card card. Then like writing bad checks, the treasury prints NSF money, the value of which is discounted.
Lord knows you hate taxes, but just look at the rise in the national debt in the last eight years.
This is a numb place, and you’re tied for numbest!
ET
38 gafisher // Sep 18, 2008 at 8:53 am
"Does a President really control the value of the dollar?"
It’s a long story, often misunderstood or misstated, but in a nutshell, <b><i>No</i></b>. Once upon a time the US Dollar was the world standard for stability, in large part because it was based primarily on gold (called "the gold standard).
Gold has an intrinsic value; as the ads say, "gold has never been worth nothing." That means that, if a dollar is declared to be worth, say, 1/100th of an ounce of gold, you can always trade in $100 for a lump of metal that has a definite value. If the government decides to inflate the currency - to print, say, 110 dollar bills for every ounce of gold it has on hand - it winds up having to sell gold at a loss to anyone who wants to turn in just 100 of those dollar bills. Obviously, the gold standard forces the government to print honest currency.
Unfortunately for us, in 1933 Democrat President FDR outlawed private gold ownership (except in jewelery) which effectively ended the gold standard. Over the following years, the US shifted to what is called <i>"fiat money"</i>, currency with no intrinsic value whatsoever ("not worth the paper it’s printed on") used solely as a medium of exchange at rates set arbitrarily by the Federal Reserve, which is run not be the government but by the banks. The dollar’s value has no relationship, for instance, to the results of a day’s work or the need for a dozen eggs or the utility of an acre of land, all of which have <i>intrinsic</i> value. This is why inflation exists; it would be virtually impossible otherwise.
From 1946 to 1971 the US sold dollars to foreign countries at the rate of 35 dollars for each ounce of gold, but eventually the rest of the world decided the dollar just wasn’t worth 1/35th of an ounce of gold and the system was discontinued. Since that time no major currency in the world has been tied to anything more substantial than a promise. The reason gold costs <a href="http://www.goldprice.org/gold-price.html" rel="nofollow">$875.10 per ounce</a> at the moment I’m writing this is not because gold has become more valuable but because the dollar has become more worthless. Because a lot of other countries have tied their currency to the once-solid US dollar, they are falling down the same deep hole.
The President can certainly <i>influence</i> the value of a dollar, as FDR did in the 1930s, but <i><b>control</b></i> of its value is left to the bankers.
An excellent article on the history, implications and sobering outcome of this debacle can be found at <a href="http://www.chalcedon.edu/articles/0309/030918terrell.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.chalcedon.edu/articles/0309/030918terrell.php</a>.
39 gafisher // Sep 18, 2008 at 9:18 am
Everthink Re#37, I’d have to disagree with you on this. The value of the dollar depends not on how many are spent by whom but on how many exist, which is entirely out of the President’s hands. While it’s true that things like hurricanes or attacks on America — both of which are legitimate causes for Government action — can alter the way those dollars are moved through the system, (for example, UAW members might be getting paid for building military Humvees instead of Rodeo Boulevard Humvees) as long as the total number of dollars stays the same the value of each doesn’t change simply by being spent differently.
40 conserve-a-tip // Sep 18, 2008 at 9:29 am
ET, your ignorance is showing. Every economist out there is saying that this started 20 years ago and has been getting steadily worse with the greed and the graft growing exponentially.
Ever read the book <i><b>The Coming Economic Earthquake</b></i> by Larry Burkett, written in 1991 and revised in 1994? He is dead now, but he so accurately predicted today’s events that it is spooky. And he gave the two scenarios that could take place - either the government would allow the Bear Stearns and the Lehmann Brothers of today to crash and burn, ushering in a short-term recession and forcing people to cut back and stop the ridiculous spending orgy, or they would bail out the institutions, thereby setting up a fall of even greater proportions, enabling those institutions to continue in their poor business practices and causing a recession of great proportions and even possibly a depression. He bet that the government would do the latter because Americans expect their government to "fix it" on everything now. He thought that it would happen within 10 years of his writing his book. He was short a few years, but he was right that the Fed just kept propping things up within that timeframe, leading to the collapses in the present.
The thing is, that even Larry Burkett could not have imagined the leverage in which these institutions had positioned themselves. Many have been leveraged 40 to 1 and 100 to 1…that means that if they have a $100,000 home loan go into foreclosure, they haven’t taken a $100,000 hit - they’ve taken a 1 million dollar hit. It’s called "betting the house and losing your shirt", but in this casino gambling/lottery scratch-off society, today, why are we surprised?
You see, ET and Cougar, what is happening today is not the fault of just Bush or Clinton or the Congress, but is the fault of everyone who has not been responsible with their borrowing and spending. The American family is a microcosm of what is happening in the big institutions - overborrowing and overspending. As go the families, so go the institutions who loaned them the money. Add to that, the repeal of the Glass-Steagle Act under Clinton and a Republican Congress, that allowed banks to stick their fingers into every kind of questionable financial venture you can imagine and you have the perfect storm.
My daughter works for a banking institution and is teaching high school students the ins and outs of responsible financial management. She is astounded at how little the kids have been taught about how to budget AND do without. The concept of "if you don’t have the money, don’t buy it" is a totally new concept for them. Shoot, when we have people my age who whine (like my spouse’s coworker did to him) that the bank didn’t tell him that the home loan amount for which he qualified was based on both incomes of he and his wife, we gotta wonder how we have kept it together <i>THIS</i> long! Well, duh. And so, when his wife left him, he lost his house because he couldn’t make the payments on one income. And who is he mad at?? The Bank!! Sheesh.
And so, boys, pull in your claws and shut your mouths and take a look at your own lives and make sure that you aren’t part of this very all-encompassing problem. And buy gold!
41 conserve-a-tip // Sep 18, 2008 at 9:33 am
GAfisher: I have to agree with you on this. I don’t think that Americans understand that the FED is actually more powerful than Congress or the President or The Supreme Court, thanks to FDR. They control the value of the dollar via interest rates and how much paper is printed.
42 R.A.M. // Sep 18, 2008 at 10:01 am
Well, seeing as how O’Bama got over a half a million dollars in campaign contributions from Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, and NOW the federal government is bailing them out , I wonder if any other American tax payers are as mad as I am that our tax dollars are being used by O’Bama to run for President?
Maybe some OBJECTIVE journalist, (are there any left?) should ask him to give the money back to the United States Government?
43 gafisher // Sep 18, 2008 at 10:40 am
Getting back to the topic of Obama’s incredible ability to unite the country, take a look at a couple of fascinating maps Dick Morris put together:
[<a href="http://w3.newsmax.com/a/morrismap/images/map.jpg" rel="nofollow">Here</a>] is what the US political landscape looked like a few weeks ago. You’ll see about twelve states "Strongly Obama," another nine "leaning Obama," and four "tossup" states.
[<a href="http://w3.newsmax.com/a/morrismap/images/map2.jpg" rel="nofollow">Here</a>] is today’s map, showing six Obama states, four "leaning Obama," and six "tossup" states on the fence.
There’s a better view [<a href="http://w3.newsmax.com/a/morrismap/?s=al&promo_code=6AB2-1" rel="nofollow">here</a>] which shows McCain currently holding 290 confirmed or "leaning" delegates compared to Obama’s 172. With 270 required to win, it appears America is indeed uniting behind the McCain - Palin ticket.
<blockquote>-=| <b>McCain ~*~ Palin ‘08</b> |=-</blockquote>
44 NeaL // Sep 18, 2008 at 11:33 am
This story brought tears to my eyes. I can’t tell if I am laughing or crying or just so happy that this goofball might actually sink the Democratic ticket before November, if he keeps this up:
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/18/biden-wealthy-americans-must-pay-more-taxes-to-show-patriotism/
If I take your lunch money, it’s theft. If the government takes your lunch money and gives it to me, it’s. . . Patriotism?
45 da Bunny // Sep 18, 2008 at 11:48 am
NeaL, yes, Biden’s the gift that keeps on giving. While Obama is out claiming that he’s not going to raise taxes except for on the “rich” [read: people who work], Biden’s out telling people that they’re not patriotic if they don’t pay higher taxes.
Obama has also told his minions to “argue and get in their faces” when encountering the opposition. More tactics from the ‘hood, Mr. Marxist Chicago Street Thug? More Saul Alinsky “Rules for Radicals?”
46 Shelly // Sep 18, 2008 at 11:57 am
da Bunny, I do so hope his supporters take him up on that. The American people would love to have others shouting in their faces for the next six weeks. I guess that’s what it will take for Americans to realize the perfection that was supposed to be so obvious, but turned out to be a thug.
Speaking of thugs, all of those people who railed against FISA and all the “illegal” wire tapping that never happened, aren’t the least bit concerned about Sarah Palin’s private e-mail being hacked and posted on the net. And they think they are so righteous and passionate about “privacy.” Hypocrites on every issue. Every single one.
47 da Bunny // Sep 18, 2008 at 12:36 pm
Shelly, if Obama’s supporters do end up taking him up on that, I think many of them will find themselves landing on their backsides or perhaps swallowing some teeth.
As far as the Palin email-hacking episode, this is typical Obama/Chicago Democrat Machine tactics at work here. That’s how Obama got to the IL State Senate AND to the US Senate…by uncovering sealed records about his opponents and using the information to smear and ruin them. And, if they can’t find anything negative, they make it up. No ethics and no honor on the part of the Left…and they’re proud of it.
48 gafisher // Sep 18, 2008 at 12:36 pm
da Bunny, Shelly, the Obama campaign, both the overt and covert parts, are revealing themselves as the essence of Slimy Chicago Underworld Marxism.
Hmmm … could be an acronym in there somewhere.
49 da Bunny // Sep 18, 2008 at 12:39 pm
Yes, gafisher…SCUM.
50 JamesonLewis3rd // Sep 18, 2008 at 12:51 pm
BO will be passing out brown shirts and jackboots before long.
51 Fred Sinclair // Sep 18, 2008 at 2:41 pm
#’s 40 - 47 B.O. and his gang of thugs are loose in our midst. I thought I knew what “thug” meant but just to verify, I went to the dictionary.
The thugs (aka - the liberals) are strangling America in their effort to kill freedom and replace it with the slavery of Socialism (aka - Communism).
Perhaps we can invite the British to come over here and recreate whatever worked in India in 1830
thug |θəg|
noun
A violent person, esp. a criminal. [ORIGIN: mid 19th cent. Thug historical a member of a religious organization of robbers and assassins in India. Devotees of the goddess Kali, the Thugs waylaid and strangled their victims, usually travelers, in a ritually prescribed manner. They were suppressed by the British in the 1830s.
ORIGIN early 19th cent. from Hindi á¹hag ‘swindler, thief,’ based on Sanskrit sthagati ‘he covers or conceals.’
B.O. STINKS
52 Fred Sinclair // Sep 18, 2008 at 2:42 pm
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53 Mack // Sep 18, 2008 at 2:56 pm
J. Cougar Melancholy
Funny I thought it was radical Islamic terrorists that slammed the planes into the Pentagon, World Trade Centers, and a field in Pennsylvania. Not Christians. To equate the two only exposes your bias and ignorance.
Christians are the people who are pro life in case you missed it. People who endorse the murder of the unborn, or the helpless are not Christian. Radical Islam on the other hand endorses the wholesale murder and enslavement of everyone, to include other Muslims, that does not support them. Make a note for future reference.
54 everthink // Sep 18, 2008 at 3:04 pm
As, “… Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” Macbeth
ET
55 gafisher // Sep 18, 2008 at 3:13 pm
macbETh? Sounds self-referential.
56 gafisher // Sep 18, 2008 at 3:21 pm
Hmmm … judging from #38, #40 & #43 it seems like there’s a little html problem goin’ on ’round here today.
57 Mack // Sep 18, 2008 at 3:50 pm
Trolls are funny, in a runny nose sort of way. They simply evoke anger from people. Abnormal Psyche and adolescent psyche classes taught me that people with low self esteem can not lift themselves up so they attack people they fear in order to feel powerful. They lack the ability to be uplifting, to create, to build, or to heal, so they do what people of low mentality do.
They irritate people. They attempt to hurt or destroy people if they can because they lack the character to do good. They do it here because they can do it without fear of being hurt. They stir the pot then stand back and marvel that they have the power to annoy people.
I note it doesn’t much matter the topic, they choose the opposite side of it. So I no longer waste the time it takes to read their stuff. I do on occasion accidentally skim through it when I am reading others.
58 conserve-a-tip // Sep 18, 2008 at 4:54 pm
Aw Mack. Didn’t you know? The trolls are just following their SAVE-YER Obummer’s orders and getting in your face and arguing! What a man - all about change and all that. Riiiiigggght.
59 J. Cougar Melancholy // Sep 18, 2008 at 4:56 pm
Mig and all,
Sorry. I honestly did not know Santini passed. I haven’t read everything through as the months have passed. I will miss his parodies and even his troll smacks.
60 everthink // Sep 18, 2008 at 5:09 pm
“Trolls are funny, in a runny nose sort of way. They simply evoke anger from people. Abnormal Psyche and adolescent psyche classes taught me that people with low self esteem can not lift themselves up so they attack people they fear in order to feel powerful. They lack the ability to be uplifting, to create, to build, or to heal, so they do what people of low mentality do.”
But doctor, that sounds more like Dumbyah to me.
ET
61 Maggie // Sep 18, 2008 at 6:31 pm
J.Cougar…re #59,
I believe you.
You being a doting dad of two beautiful little girls (twins) is enough to convince me.
btw….how are they?Are they attending school?
62 mindknumbed kid // Sep 18, 2008 at 6:32 pm
So spending money on hurricane relief and war make our dollar value plunge…
We can spend billions and trillions on social programs or nationalized health care, plus fund Senator Feelgood’s pork projects and that is OK. The last I checked Congress still gets their grubby little hands on it all. The FED and the lack of any king of intrinsic value are non factors?
Greed is killing us, but helping it along is the fact that those that are supposed to know and understand financial matters are either inept or corrupt. Primarily democrats refused to heed many warnings, it all amounts to the fact that the further this nation removes itself from God, the worse things will get, in every aspect of life.
“Righteousness exalteth a nation”…
63 gafisher // Sep 18, 2008 at 7:01 pm
Not that it’s affected the selection on the menu at my favorite restaurant, but we’ve been told for years that we’re extincting dozens of species each year, so my wife and I have been splitting entrees. But now the papers are reporting all sorts of new species turning up:
So now I’m wondering, are we failing to do our part to fight species overpopulation, or are global warming and past nuclear tests just making the planet a healthier place?
.
(Posting links seems to be causing problems today so I’ll include the story URL in plain text: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080918/ap_on_re_au_an/as_australia_new_marine_life&printer=1;_ylt=AqxaDnb4ZQajfO_OrLDLrBVNYhAF)
64 conserve-a-tip // Sep 18, 2008 at 7:37 pm
Gafisher: I’d say that global warming and past nuclear tests are giving us new species out of old ones.
65 mindknumbed kid // Sep 18, 2008 at 7:54 pm
re#63 - Seems to me as though we need to first consult with Adam to establish the facts…
Anyone ever think about what an amazing intellect Adam must have possessed? Perhaps before the fall of man we had the capability of using 100% of our brain matter, I tell ya now, Satan really sold them a bill of goods. I guess that our contemporaries buying into Obananas package is understandable in that context.
66 Fred Sinclair // Sep 18, 2008 at 8:22 pm
Best of the Web (WSJ) - Once in ahile they actually engender a grin or even a smile or two.
If Your Parents Didn’t Have Children, Chance Are You Won’t Either
“Pass It On: Sons of Infertile Men May Be Next”-headline, MSNBC.com, Sept. 17
IN GOD WE TRUST
67 egospeak // Sep 18, 2008 at 8:29 pm
After rereading all of ET’s fulminations the past few months and listening to the experts in the MSM tell me that the only reason I was opposing Y’obama was because of my latent racism, I have decided that on election day I will courageously defy my inner George Wallace, William Fulbright, Robert Byrd and all the other racist Democrats that taint my, nay our history, and vote for the unificator, the changeling of American politics… the Chosen one, the Messiah for our times… Barack Hussein Y’obama!!!
No really!!!! I swear on the Humanist Manifesto!!! I’m deadly serious!!! BTW, where’s the koolaid? Suddenly I’m really thirsty.
Regards,
68 Fred Sinclair // Sep 18, 2008 at 9:01 pm
Mack #57 & c-a-t #58: You reminded me of a post I made early last July when I got a seat on the Troll Wagon (which I still have, of course) I looked it up and still like it because it’s so wonderfully accurate. As an answer to da-Bunny, I wrote
da Bunny #195 “Hallelujah”!!! I love it! It does however feed the masochistic cravings of “The liberal demon-crat buffoon who keeps spamming the threads on this site…”.
To call it names is to advise it that it has the ability to make our flesh creep with a feeling a disgust or revulsion and experience the sensation of something crawling over our skin.
Ecstasy on a level few masochists are ever allowed. It loves being demeaned, ridiculed, debased and humiliated and we find that it’s been able to maneuver us into satisfying it’s cravings. - See my #177 - re Trolls. No longer will I continue to help satisfy their need.
Perhaps, however, if we could figure a way to use PayPal, when it becomes desperate enough it could hire us to provide the amount of ridicule and degradation needed to alleviate it’s addiction. I think $25.00 sounds just about right? Whatcha say, more, less or that’s just about right and fair? Considering the service we would provide maybe we could provide a group rate and castigate two or more at a time?
All proceeds would of course go into the ScrappleFace kitty to buy Scott more coffee.
TROLL WAGON: A 12 STEP PROGRAM
69 Fred Sinclair // Sep 18, 2008 at 9:44 pm
gafisher #63 - “Not that it’s affected the selection on the menu at my favorite restaurant,….”. Some ingredients in the recipe might (or might not) affect your selection on some restaurant menus.
Once again from today’s Best of the Web (WSJ)
“Swiss Restaurant to Serve Meals Cooked With Human Breast Milk”-headline, Daily Telegraph (London), Sept. 18
Got to love those Swiss. Very inventive. A ‘loaded’ gun in every household (required by law); and they make nice watches too.
IN GOD WE TRUST
70 mindknumbed kid // Sep 18, 2008 at 10:53 pm
The MSM is doing their part for Obama. And now Franklin Raines says he is not an adviser to Obama.
Both sides are too busy trying to capitalize on this “crisis”. Why isn’t McCain pointing to his efforts to fix things in 2005? To me that tells you who has the understanding of the problems, and who has an idea of what to do. Bring on the Straight Talk Express and drive it right over them.
71 everthink // Sep 18, 2008 at 11:22 pm
“Why isn’t McCain pointing to his efforts to fix things in 2005?”
Good point!
But then, maybe he’s afraid if he does somebody might also point out his efforts to “fix things” in 1989 as a member of the “Keating Five”.
ET
72 mig // Sep 19, 2008 at 6:59 am
PBS has a short video on Sarah Palin on their website. Also included is a poll that asks: Is Sarah Palin qualified to be VP?
Of course PBS is left of center so the poll shows that “most” voters think she is unqualified.
Here’s the link.
73 egospeak // Sep 19, 2008 at 7:34 am
ET, re: 71
McCain was exonerated in the Keating Five scandel. To claim that he was not is just as false a statement as to say that Y’obama is a Muslim. Try taking the high road for once.
Regards,
wv - (voyage announces) Celebrities planning to leave the country if McCain/Palin win. If only… sigh…
74 JamesonLewis3rd // Sep 19, 2008 at 7:53 am
An elitist is not elite. An elite is not an elitist.
Thank you.
75 Fred Sinclair // Sep 19, 2008 at 7:57 am
mig #72 - I tried the link and watched the attached videos. What I don’t understand is since Sarah obviously has a superior amount of experience in leadership (which isn’t hard to do seeing as how the combined total of Obama, Biden and McCain is zero) where are the comments on their zero factor?
The bumper sticker I like best reads [Sarah (and that guy she's with) - '08]. Of course Sarah has run a city (granted a small one), she has run a State; not one of the other three has ever run anything bigger than their mouths!
Experience isn’t all it’s cracked up to be. No one (excepting an incumbent) has ANY experience in running the country. For the first 100 days, it’s all run by advisors. Other than age and citizenship there are no other requirements for the job.
SARAH (and that guy she’s with) - ‘08
76 Darthmeister // Sep 19, 2008 at 8:13 am
Harry Reid: "No one know what to do." But I thought the Donks had all the answers, particularly given that liberal lending practices, stifling regulations are also their problems, too. Hmmm, maybe they think it’s in their best electoral interest to fiddle while Rome burned.
It could be the markets are reacting to the possibility that someone as naive, inexperienced and devoid of substantive accomplishments as Oblahblah - who also has animosity toward free markets and is a closet socialist who wants to engage in a massive transference of wealth from the most financially efficient to the least financially efficient - is getting closer to the Presidency of the United States. His financial policies and that of a meddlesome Democrat-controlled Congress could ultimately tilt this country into a full-fledged depression. It’s hard to predict these things, but even with the financial markets going nuts we’ve yet to experience one financial quarter of negative growth … an economic slow down but not a recession which has been traditionally defined (despite the Donk’s attempts to redefine recession during the Bush Administration) as three negative growth quarters in a row.
77 Shelly // Sep 19, 2008 at 9:08 am
egospeak, while you are correct in pointing out the actual facts, you have to realize that truth and reality are irrelevant to et. There is only one thing that drives him and it is hatred. If he needs to lie to serve that hatred, no problem. But the hatred will always come first. It alone is what he lives for.
wv: 24 Harmsworth (Is there a Jack Bauer joke here?)
78 everthink // Sep 19, 2008 at 9:47 am
“… Keating was more than a constituent to McCain-he was a longtime friend and associate. McCain met Keating in 1981 at a Navy League dinner in Arizona where McCain was the speaker. Keating was a former naval aviator himself, and the two men became friends. Keating raised money for McCain’s two congressional campaigns in 1982 and 1984, and for McCain’s 1986 Senate bid. By 1987, McCain campaigns had received $112,000 from Keating, his relatives, and his employees-the most received by any of the Keating Five.â€
“In February 1991, the Senate Ethics Committee found McCain and Glenn to be the least blameworthy of the five senators. (McCain and Glenn attended the meetings but did nothing else to influence the regulators.) McCain was guilty of nothing more than “poor judgment,” the committee said, and declared his actions were not “improper nor attended with gross negligence.” McCain considered the committee’s judgment to be “full exoneration,” and he contributed $112,000 (the amount raised for him by Keating) to the U.S. Treasury.â€
http://www.slate.com/id/1004633/
ET
79 Ms RightWing, Ink // Sep 19, 2008 at 9:55 am
Obama is not a Muslim. He claims Christianity and I have to believe him though I don’t agree with his brand.
Obama was raised as a Muslim. Muslims overwhelmingly love Obama.
Obama is a Marxist and his church beliefs are Black Liberation.
That has to be the high road because there is no other road.
“nuff said.
80 JamesonLewis3rd // Sep 19, 2008 at 10:07 am
A-ar-r-r-r-r…..
81 Fred Sinclair // Sep 19, 2008 at 10:37 am
"Cows may come and Cows may go, but the Bull goes on forever in this place." - so reads a poster that caught my eye. How about B.O. using this "Bull" poster, to replace the now infamous poster of Che Guevara on his campaign headquarters wall. Since the only time he’s not spreading the bull is when he’s talking about Vladimir Lenin, Karl Marx and Friedrich Engles (his Trinity of gods)
Che Guevara, Vladmir Putin, Fidel Castro,Joseph Stalin, Hugo Chavez and B.O. himself are/were but mere foot soldiers in the army of the "GODLESS" the Church of Liberalism - aka Socialism - aka Communism.
B.O. STINKS
82 Fred Sinclair // Sep 19, 2008 at 10:38 am
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83 mig // Sep 19, 2008 at 1:22 pm
MEDIA RESEARCH CENTER -<i>According to CNBC "Mad Money" host Jim Cramer, the federal government’s prevention of the collapse of American International Group (AIG) represents an acceptance of Marxist philosophies.
Cramer added, "Their ideology was such they believed everyone should own a home including people who were deadbeats. They were anti-regulation. Now we’ve spent $900 billion… we’re all communists now."
CNBC "Squawk on the Street" co-host Mark Haines agreed saying, <b>"Everyone’s in favor of a free market until it doesn’t work to their advantage and then they are in favor of socialism - that’s where we are right now."
84 J. Cougar Melancholy // Sep 19, 2008 at 1:27 pm
Thanks Maggie. The twins are in first grade now in a Brooklyn public school chock full of Obamaheads. They are in separate classes. One of their classmates is named Rebel Spirit. Even this liberal Demdonk is rolling his eyes.
85 Ms RightWing, Ink // Sep 19, 2008 at 1:46 pm
Aha! Now this is really surprising. Not!!!!
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September 19, 2008 (Computerworld)
A Tennessee state legislator has confirmed that his son, a 20-year-old student at the University of Tennessee-Knoxville, is the person being named on blogs and message boards in connection with the hacking of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s e-mail account, a Nashville paper reported late yesterday.
State Rep. Mike Kernell told the Tennessean that his son, David Kernell, is at the center of speculation about the identity of the hacker who gained access to Palin’s account.
Kernell, a Democrat, represents District 93, which encompasses the University of Memphis and other parts of southeast Memphis. He declined additional comment to the Tennessean.
86 R.A.M. // Sep 19, 2008 at 2:26 pm
I already felt sorry for Sarah being “hacked”, but after yesterday, I can really relate!
A little after 6pm, EST, some thief started using my bank debit card on line at “Half.com” for 5 purchases totaling a little under $1500.00! It would have been more, but he/she got greedy. After the 5Th use charging over $500.-, they tried again, (probably for an equal or greater amount, and with only $169.00 left in my account, it was declined.
The thing that irks me the most is, Chase, (that’s my bank,—or at least WAS), declined a purchase I was attempting to make for a WalMart gift card, because they said, I had just purchased 3 previously, and they thought it was an illegal use.
That is fine, and I understand that BUT, yesterday, these 5 bogus charges all took place within a 17 minutes period, and were progressively larger amounts!!!
I feel Chase feel flat on this!!!
They told me not to worry, they will replace the funds. Sounds good, huh?
They will replace them AFTER, I get a form in the mail, fill it out, fax it back, and THEN when they receive it, they will replace the money within two business days.
That is ASSUMING they tell the truth better than a politician!
Bottom line is, as soon as I get my money back, I am looking for a new bank, or maybe a new mattress???
87 gafisher // Sep 19, 2008 at 2:47 pm
mkk Re#65: I’ve often wondered what Adam’s perfect rationality was like. Imagine such a brain, such perfect reason, equipped to rule well over all creation yet unresistant to his wife’s plea.
Hopefully Michelle Obama will be as effective. Drudge has the following headline: “McCain, Obama in ‘Brain’ Battle.” I tremble at the thought of the Very Junior Senator from Illinois going into such a fray unarmed.
88 onlineanalyst // Sep 19, 2008 at 3:27 pm
This is by far the wittiest put-down of The One by someone who actually forked over the cash to attend Streisand’s bash for Obama:
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NTljMTA0MGZjMGU2OWVjYjcxMWQ4MmFjYjE0MDU5MTA=&w=MA
Read and laugh. This fellow zeroes in on OhBummer’s (and his fan club’s) multiple vulnerabilities.
89 egospeak // Sep 19, 2008 at 11:14 pm
Re: 78
What is your point??? That McCain exaggerated the committee’s finding??? Perhaps he did, but the fact of the matter is, and this is according to your own post, he didn’t do anything wrong other than exercise poor judgement.
Speaking of poor judgement, Christopher Dodd and Barack Obama were the two largest recipients of contributions from Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac (I’m don’t recall which, but it was one of them) and what did they do? Only obstruct any possible Republican solution to the problem. I think that qualifies as something quite a bit worse than “poor judgement”.
I ask again… What is your point???
Regards,
wv - (progreso program) Obama’s platform
90 everthink // Sep 20, 2008 at 2:48 am
egospeak,
At the behest of Charles Keating, the chairman of Lincoln Savings and Loan, four senators-McCain and Democrats Dennis DeConcini of Arizona, Alan Cranston of California, and John Glenn of Ohio-met with Ed Gray, chairman of the Federal Home Loan Bank Board, on April 2. Those four senators and Sen. Don Riegle, D-Mich., attended a second meeting at Keating’s behest on April 9 with bank regulators in San Francisco.
Later, regulators seized Lincoln Savings and Loan, resulting in a bailout, which cost taxpayers $2.6 billion, and in addition, 17,000 Lincoln investors, lost $190 million. Keating was convicted in January 1993 of 73 counts of wire and bankruptcy fraud and served more than four years in prison before his conviction was overturned. He pleaded guilty to four counts of fraud and was sentenced to time served.
In November 1990, the Senate Ethics Committee launched an investigation into the meetings between the senators and the regulators. McCain, Cranston, DeConcini, Glenn, and Riegle became known as the Keating Five.
“In February 1991, the Senate Ethics Committee found McCain and Glenn to be the least blameworthy of the five senators. (McCain and Glenn attended the meetings but did nothing else to influence the regulators.) McCain was guilty of nothing more than “poor judgment,†the committee said, and declared his actions were not “improper nor attended with gross negligence.†McCain considered the committee’s judgment to be “full exoneration,†and he contributed $112,000 (the amount raised for him by Keating) to the U.S. Treasury.â€
http://www.slate.com/id/1004633/
This appears to be an effort to “influence†the regulators investigating a crime, or at least that’s the way G.W. Bush depicted it in the 2000 primary campaign.
If Obama, or Dodd ever intervenes in a similar investigation, I will find it equally wrong!
My regards right back at you,
ET
91 egospeak // Sep 20, 2008 at 6:57 am
Re: 90
Thank you for essentially restating what you said in # 78. May I quote from paragraph 4? “(McCain and Glenn attended the meetings but did nothing else to influence the regulators.)” “his actions were not ‘improper nor attended with gross negligence’“.
Please show me where McCain tried to “fix” anything in 1989? Your own posts indicate otherwise.
Regards,
92 mig // Sep 20, 2008 at 7:27 am
#89 - You know that deomcrate campaign contributions aren’t being reported except on blogs. But get this:
The Pacific Justice Institute (PJI) has filed a complaint against PG&E after the California utility company donated $250,000 to defeat California’s marriage-protection amendment.
There is even outrage!:”It is outrageous that a mammoth utility used my money to undermine the values of families in my community,” PJI President Brad Dacus said in a statement.
And a call to boycott: Dacus - He also has launched a campaign to alert Californians about an alternative natural-gas provider.
Where were the watch dogs when it came to mortgages and investment firms. They get all cranky over a marriage amendment.
93 everthink // Sep 20, 2008 at 12:44 pm
egospeak,
I don’t want play “cat and string” with you further.
Senator Obama will just have to go on without your support.
I regard you too!
ET
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