NOTE: ScrappleFace editor Scott Ott writes columns at Townhall.com. Here’s a glimpse of his latest, and a link to read more…
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A Time to Kill Compassionate Conservatism
by Scott Ott at ScottOtt.Townhall.com
It’s time to kill compassionate conservatism.
Actually, we just need to snuff out the adjective, because the modifier
‘compassionate’ is exactly what’s killing Conservatism.
When then-Gov. George Bush popularized this phrase during his first
White House run, it may have seemed to his supporters like a nice
way of saying, “We’re not just a party of rich, cold-hearted,
saber-rattlers.
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100 responses so far ↓
1 gafisher // Feb 15, 2008 at 11:13 am
Conservatism is by its very nature compassionate.
2 RedPepper // Feb 15, 2008 at 11:17 am
It’s already dead. Time to give it a decent funeral before the smell gets any worse.
To quote Joe Hill, “Don’t mourn. Organize.”
3 MargeinMI // Feb 15, 2008 at 11:39 am
Scott Ott for President!
[Editor's Note: Oddly enough, there's already a Facebook group for that.]
4 nylecoj // Feb 15, 2008 at 12:27 pm
This is an excellently expressed well thought out piece.
Thank-you sir
5 Hawkeye // Feb 15, 2008 at 12:47 pm
AWESOME! Great job Scott! I hope somebody in the MSM picks up on this one and runs with it.
6 da Bunny // Feb 15, 2008 at 1:04 pm
“While the president has been right about fighting Islamic terrorists overseas, a strong national defense combined with a big-spending domestic agenda deserve a more accurate slogan: Making the World Safe for Liberalism.”
Brilliant as usual, Scott! Any agenda that discourages personal responsibility and promotes endless social programs that keep people dependent is not a “compassionate” agenda.
7 RedPepper // Feb 15, 2008 at 1:10 pm
For those who have not already received this information:
if you would like to sign the Memorial Guest Book for Kevin Corrington ( aka “The Great Santini” ) and leave a message of condolence, click on the following link:
http://www.legacy.com/Link.asp?I=GB000100974375
or cut and paste the url into your browser’s address bar.
8 Ms RightWing, Ink // Feb 15, 2008 at 1:22 pm
I do have s lot of compassion, but many here will feel surprised, or perhaps feel shame towards my very name,Ms RightWing, but on March 4th I will change my party affiliation and vote proudly for Barack Obama.
Hillary is in town today and yesterday her offspring arrived in town pitching change. I can’t live with her change.
Perhaps it is my silly youth, but Obama is my man. Sorry McCain, I just can’t punch your name.
For me it is da’ man. He is no Regan, but he is a man with charisma who won me over. I haven’t voted for a Democrat since Carter’s first miserable 4 years.
Now I shall go rest in peace.
wv: country interment: wow, this read my mind. Rest in peace in the country
9 gafisher // Feb 15, 2008 at 1:38 pm
Ms. RW Re#8: At the end of the day, both McCain and Obama get their orders from backroom Party powermongers who are much closer to each other than to the average member of their Party. If you can’t vote for the more Conservative Republican, Obama’s a better choice than Mrs. Clinton or Senator McCain.
10 RedPepper // Feb 15, 2008 at 2:02 pm
MsRW: Rest in peace? Well, that’s if you won’t mind it when they dig you up every November to vote again ( I mean, he is from Chicago, after all … )
Oh well.
God bless
AmericaObama-nationThe Magic Kingdom .11 gafisher // Feb 15, 2008 at 2:22 pm
“I haven’t voted for a Democrat since Carter’s first miserable 4 years.
“Barack Obama — Restoring the Carter Legacy!”
wv - New Hamlet — “There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio
bama, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.“12 Shelly // Feb 15, 2008 at 2:50 pm
Hawkeye, I hope someone in Washington picks up on this one and runs with it.
Truly outstanding, Mr. Ott. Bravo.
13 woodnwheel // Feb 15, 2008 at 3:24 pm
I’m sure this will come as a shock, but I agree with Hawkeye and Shelly.
RedPepper: Thank you for posting the link about The Great Santini. I had no idea he had passed, but am thrilled (for him) and saddened (for his family) by the news.
14 Just Ranting // Feb 15, 2008 at 4:24 pm
Scott,
Ever thought of a career as a presidential speech writer?
15 Effeminem // Feb 15, 2008 at 4:28 pm
Scott Ott 2008
the dispassionate conservative.
16 Ms RightWing, Ink // Feb 15, 2008 at 5:27 pm
re:8
Oh, and I must add, after I vote in the primary I will hurry up and re-register as a Republican again. I am afraid to let it go longer than 24 hours in fear of catching liberalitus.
After March 4th neither Obama-yo-mama, nor 6 gun McCain is going to be my man.
Sigh, I’m just a girl without a country.
wv: movie flan-desert and a movie
17 RedPepper // Feb 15, 2008 at 5:46 pm
Ms RW #16: Be careful you don’t catch a RINO-virus.
18 everthink // Feb 15, 2008 at 6:56 pm
They are calling them “Obamicans”.
http://www.republicansforobama.org
ET
19 gafisher // Feb 15, 2008 at 7:58 pm
ET Re#18: Are there two Obamicas?
20 EXT // Feb 15, 2008 at 8:05 pm
There is a word for a country with three Liberal candidates running under two party banners for the same office.
Suicidal.
21 everthink // Feb 15, 2008 at 8:44 pm
After two tries, when I login posts 19 & 20 still disappear! I can guess your “gag line”, don’t use it on my account.
I think two, or more “Obamicans” are called “Obamaci”, but I’m not sure!
ET
22 Darthmeister // Feb 15, 2008 at 10:38 pm
“Compassionate conservatism” was little more than a fig leaf for big spending Democrat Lite. If compassionate conservative Republicans wanted to budget $800 billion dollars for the welfare state, the Democrats would oneup it to a trillion dollars. Now the Donks want to tax Americans locally to spend it globally, all in the name of eradicating “world poverty.” I guess the Robin Hood mentality is alive and well in Donkland.
Barack Obama: A Human Hallmark Card For President
23 JamesonLewis3rd // Feb 16, 2008 at 2:02 am
I’m reminded of an old soda pop commercial where the whole world joins in a group hug.
The sad part of the “Robin Hood” metaphor, though, is that, in this case, it is a metaphor of itself in that little or none of the money will get past sticky-fingered middlemen (the UN comes to mind)—smokescreens and mirrors and prestidigitation.
Scott, I must say, your Townhall.com contributions are inspiring and always worth the wait. Thank you.
24 JamesonLewis3rd // Feb 16, 2008 at 2:46 am
I, too, am a strong proponent of Drawing the Line and Standing against Evil across the board and post haste, but the hard part comes now that our backs are already against the wall. These days, I see nothing but world-wide chaos—didn’t just start yesterday, either—which has grown and flourished exponentially; I can hardly stand to watch any news these days, on so many levels it’s like watching a metaphoric Hindenburg explode in an ultra-slow motion endless loop with all that is good, just and full of hope about this country and this planet being incinerated right before my very eyeballs.
God Bless America
25 Fred Sinclair // Feb 16, 2008 at 3:02 am
Compassionate Conservatism reminded me of a really great book a few years back by Rich DeVos called “Compassionate Capitalism”
Rich may well be one of the most serious conservatives in America, more than Rush, Ann, Laura, Sean or any of the other Arch-Conservatives and in fact, almost as conservative as myself.
John McCain is way down the list of conservatives, way, way down - however a Democrat President WILL appoint Liberal loonie judges to be a Supreme. and John will appoint conservatives or at least moderates. Decades to come will bear the brunt of those appointments! His stand on the war on terror and his appointments of judges is why I will vote Republican this November.
Heirborn Ranger
26 JamesonLewis3rd // Feb 16, 2008 at 9:27 am
RE: #25~~
Hear! Hear!
27 Darthmeister // Feb 16, 2008 at 9:36 am
If there is one issue that should drive conservatives to the polls its that either Obama or Hitlary will appoint whacked-out, barking moonbat liberal socialist judges to the Supreme Court. We have an obligation to our posterity to see that doesn’t happen. There is no guarantee that someone McCain appoints wouldn’t be some kind of closet liberal (think David Souter), but at least he won’t be actively seeking a justice who prides herself/himself/itself in discovering new “rights” or principles of jurisprudence in the Constitution and then simultaneously denying those rights which are so clearly enumerated like the Second Amendment.
28 onlineanalyst // Feb 16, 2008 at 10:24 am
Obama! The P.T. Barnum Candidate!
29 RedPepper // Feb 16, 2008 at 10:40 am
McCain swings into action, sternly lectures Obama.
Read all about it!
Is this the new McCain, trying to solve his “conservative” problem, I wonder?
30 JamesonLewis3rd // Feb 16, 2008 at 11:17 am
1 day, 2 hours and 43 minutes to go.
Yee-HAW!
Whoo-HOO!
31 everthink // Feb 16, 2008 at 12:03 pm
“Hitlary”
Very nice! I think, you gotta gift!
“McCain swings into action, sternly lectures Obama.” Yeah, right; I can’t wait to see how that goes.
ET
32 everthink // Feb 16, 2008 at 12:10 pm
Re: 28
Like “The Greatest Show on Earth”, versus a
carnival.
33 JamesonLewis3rd // Feb 16, 2008 at 12:12 pm
They cut the TV feed right before The Temptations performed at the WH the other day; bummed me out.
And, it freaked me out that The Supremes weren’t even there.
Nor did they play any early/mid-60’s The Rolling Stones albums (like, 1-4 in particular, man) in the background; nor even any ’60s Sinatra, nor George Jones, nor The Coasters singing “Poison Ivy” [1959]-my first “favorite song”.
Hmph…..
All back in the days before stereo or FM in the car and pre-genre/demographic/pigeonhole/niche music, of course—back when I tapped my foot to static-y AM music on “12-30 the New W-C-O-L”. Before digital watches and pocket calculators.
34 onlineanalyst // Feb 16, 2008 at 1:48 pm
Re: #32
More like “There’s a sucker born every minute”.
Wait until all of those folks stepping right up for the Obama greatest show on earth who dream that all of their material needs will be met “for free” find that it is they who will be footing the bill. Not only that but the red tape and bureaucracy will increase as the suckers give up their freedoms of market choice. I guess that these tools have never seen queues for purchasing essentials or shortages or year-long waits for surgeries.
BTW I’ve never been able to figure out whose international approval we have lost and must now win over.
Vote Obama! The Taqqiah Candidate!
Group hug, everyone!
If Reverend Al of the Green Church of Gaia wasn’t your cup of tea eight years ago, then Imam Obama will teach you to submit willingly… with hope.
Just as an aside on the other Marxist candidate: How does Madame Hillary, she of the Mao pantsuit, resolve the conflict of railing against Wall Street and of supporting the ambitions of heer hedge-fund managing daughter?
35 onlineanalyst // Feb 16, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Correction: taqiyah
Heh! With out borderless Southern invasion and the soft-soaping of sharia, we could have a taqiyah tequilla to “celebrate” the worm’s turning.
Check out http://www.captainsquarterblog.com to learn what Sister Michelle is preaching on behalf of Brother Obama. Say it, sistuh. I need the saving hope and change of the prophet Obama before I sink into cynicism.
36 Effeminem // Feb 16, 2008 at 3:47 pm
Yall’ll like this: some guy takes $25 and becomes homeless. Within ten months he has a job, apartment, truck, and $5000 saved up.
37 upnorthlurkin // Feb 16, 2008 at 4:07 pm
OLA, I think you left out an “s” in Captainsquarter(s)blog.com. I hit your link and was transported to an advertisement. Since I have CQ bookmarked, I just scooted over there to read your referenced article. Quite sobering indeed!
38 upnorthlurkin // Feb 16, 2008 at 5:22 pm
FM&M, yeah, but if he’d been a she, or black, or Hispanic, or a drop out (or any number of excuses), NONE of those good things would’ve happened to him!! IOW, he succeeded because he’s a white male!! NOT!
39 Effeminem // Feb 16, 2008 at 6:01 pm
upnorth,
Ah, that explains it.
Actually, I tried to get a job as a dishwasher once, and they turned me away because I wasn’t Mexican. In high school I couldn’t even get a job mopping floors at HEB (which was staffed entirely by minorities).
Ah well, I don’t like to work anyway.
trainer jacket: a- wait, mine make sense.
40 Fred Sinclair // Feb 16, 2008 at 6:26 pm
God knows the end from the beginning and the beginning from the end. Even back in ancient times he knew to warn us of satan, the anti-Christ and liberals.
Of course He also knew that with our free will we would raise up idols to our manmade gods. Whether it’s the Almighty dollar, the Condo in Palm Beach, the new Mercedes Benz, Carbon Footprints in The Church of Manmade Global Warming or Liberalism.
What the Liberal Left don’t realize is how perfectly they are proving the accuracy of The Bible.
Eccl. 10:2 A wise man’s heart directs him toward the right, but the foolish man’s heart directs him toward the left.
41 gafisher // Feb 16, 2008 at 7:12 pm
Darth Re#27: “There is no guarantee that someone McCain appoints wouldn’t be some kind of closet liberal …”
The very best we could expect from McCain would be a compromiser like himself, someone who would rather cross the aisle than draw the line. McCain’s appointees would always stand with the majority.
wv - maturing noticed - see #33.
(Remember spring reverbs? You do if your town had railroad tracks or potholes.)
42 Fred Sinclair // Feb 16, 2008 at 7:46 pm
gafisher #41: Better a good maybe conservative or moderate from John than a certified guaranteed Liberal Leftist Supreme and/or Supremes from HillBilly, Inc. or Obama Mama (aka Mr. Clean and Articulate).
Heirborn Ranger
43 Dumb_Ox // Feb 16, 2008 at 8:04 pm
Compassionate Conservatism was a dreadful slogan, implying in the first place that Conservatism is not Compassionate in the first place! It is at best a redundancy, at worst it gives aid and comfort to the Left! As if we were admitting some long-held, dark secret about heartless conservatism.
Conservatism is by definition compassionate, it feels with the generations of our forbears who came before us and who built the world we have inherited, and it feels with the generations of our progeny who depend on us to pass on the legacy of freedom and prosperity that we have enjoyed. We have the duty to protect that inheritance against the Libs and Pervs and degenerates who will in every generation attempt to rob the hard work of others. That’s real compassion, versus mamby-pamby feel goodism, which is not compassion but egocentric onanism.
44 gafisher // Feb 16, 2008 at 8:14 pm
FM Re#36: It’s an interesting story of what a healthy 25-year-old can do with ambition, optimism, food stamps, charity shelters, a business degree and an emergency credit card … “Back in the day” college grads with nothing better to do bummed around Europe for a year living off the hospitality of the locals. Charleston S.C. is a nice place but Switzerland’s more fun.
In years gone by many have come to this country with far less than Mr. Shepard, with no food stamps and few charities to assist them; many of them became astonishingly wealthy by doing what brought Shepard to well below the poverty line. That all ended, and the slow but accelerating decay of the American Dream began, when this country literally negated a specific prohibitory provision of the Constitution and adopted a direct and “progressive” tax system.
While Shepard proves there is no inherent barrier keeping the penniless from climbing up at least to mere poverty, and while his common-sense approach to money management (spend less than you earn, save the rest) ought to be drummed into every school kid and every politician in this country, his “experiment” — which he chose to cut short for personal reasons — is certainly not a pattern by which anyone can actually move from destitution to even modest comfort.
Does that mean “the gummint” ought to be more generous? Absolutely NOT! The ONLY way to restore the American Dream which Adam Shepard only mimicked is to return to a truly conservative form of government, a government which protects the citizens but doesn’t get in the way of their genuine success. We need the smallest government which can accomplish the requirements of our Constitution, AND NO MORE, and we need to keep it at its proper size by abandoning a failed, socialist-designed tax system and moving instead to a more fair tax system.
“That government is best which governs least.”
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Thomas Paine
45 gafisher // Feb 16, 2008 at 8:27 pm
Fred Re#42: I’m not really sure. “Reining in” a liberal SCOTUS by sprinkling in a handful of wishy-washy McModerates is like taking aspirin for a brain tumor — it’ll just hide the problem until it’s too late to correct it.
46 prettyold // Feb 16, 2008 at 9:48 pm
Now ,just supposin’ McCain is elected in November .What ever they say ,George Bush and McCain seem to end up with the same results . Strong on the WOT,Judges who won’t MAKE law,Amnesty ( they’ve been on the same side of this one)permanent tax cuts, so where will the difference be?
The media and radical libs hate George Bush. and they hate him passionately. So far they “like “and admire McCain,but what would happen if he were elected President? Are they still going to hang on his every word and act like he is the only smart Republican ?
I don’t think so. Because basically he will do just as Bush has been doing ,they will turn on him like starving lions. Now what will be Mr.Congeniality ’s response? Don’t forget he has never been treated this way. And he has a violent temper,which apparently Bush doesn’t have.Bush never has defended himself or his friends and aides.
Would McCain bend himself into a pretzel trying to appease the MSM and Mod Dems? Or would he try more of a Clintonian response? Anger ,stonewalling and Revenge?
grinding 30 McCain’s teeth.
47 EXT // Feb 16, 2008 at 10:02 pm
Just found another bright spot!
Probability that when the inevitable Liberal President elected in November will need to resign in shame after the jihad that will surely follow.
Then the impeachment of the VP followed by the trials of any other members of the cabal that allowed it to happen!
America might have a chance to rise from the ruins……
On the downside, maybe Osama will recognize a friend when he sees one.
48 prettyold // Feb 16, 2008 at 10:14 pm
As we are FISA-less right now,as we speak , I’m afraid that jihad could come sooner than that .
How will the Libs figure out a way to make that Bush’s fault?
Mr Lydell Mrs Lydell is looking for you.
49 mindknumbed kid // Feb 17, 2008 at 12:13 am
Who has been shown to have real compassion more often / regularly? Conservatives or liberals ?Most of us here know the answer, many in this nation are willingly ignorant of principles and truths that make for a great nation. We attempt to educate, yet we look and find none with understanding. A handful are enlightened through much effort, but the masses continue marching into darkness,following the blind looking for light that is always behind them, never able to get turned around. The Word says something about men loving darkness because their deeds are evil. Their hatred and rejection of Christ keeps them from having light, He is the only help for our country.
50 mindknumbed kid // Feb 17, 2008 at 12:14 am
Get along little postie….
51 camojack // Feb 17, 2008 at 1:06 am
A Time to Kill Compassionate Conservatism
Now how compassionate would that be, really?!
Hmmm…euthanasia; mercy killing? I’m SO confused.
Oh, and aloha from Molokai!!!
52 Darthmeister // Feb 17, 2008 at 7:08 am
… Susan Sarandan stole my post.
53 Fred Sinclair // Feb 17, 2008 at 6:29 am
gafisher #45: You are right, with reality
causing me to prefer the aspirin over arsenic.
Idealistically I could demand that if Duncan Hunter is not on the ballot then I will wait to vote until he is. I can refuse to vote until 2012/2016 or 2020 when he might head up the party then and I can begin voting again.
But since I do not live in an ideal world, I will vote Republican - since the alternative is, to me anyway - disaster. If I could only be dealt a Royal Flush with every hand, I’d be happy of course but for sure someone would get suspicious.
Heirborn Ranger
btw your #44 is ‘right on’.
54 JamesonLewis3rd // Feb 17, 2008 at 7:15 am
The Hill & Bill Show loathe the military and BO wants to play kissy-face with the likes of Iran—more than enough reason (though I could digress into an infinite litany of reasons) to do everything within my power to see to it that the Democrat party doesn’t come within 100 yards of the Oval Office.
The Iranian Justice Minister has called on his Dutch counterpart to stop the production of an anti-Islam movie before it is too late—an excellent, potent example of a scenario that our next POTUS will have to face.
John at Power Line closes a short, interesting article with,
Apply a similar scenario to
the KGB’sPutin’s Russia or…..well…..the list goes on, doesn’t it…..Thank you
God Bless America
55 mindknumbed kid // Feb 17, 2008 at 8:23 am
Why would some fine Dutchman want to make a movie critical of the religion of pieces? They’re asking for it!! That is so unPC that under these circumstances the entire piece loving world is going to be forced to help the Erranian government put an end to such an uncivilized and unrefined bunch of hate mongering barbaric people.
That is why for real change that will make for a brighter tomorrow, I have deciced to vote for Mr. Barack Obama. Piece, and may a god bless your actions for a pieceful world.
56 Darthmeister // Feb 17, 2008 at 11:08 am
FIRED UP AND FALLING DOWN: String of Crowd Fainting Incidents Hits Obama Rallies…
Ah, being slain in the spirit are they? Didn’t take secular lib Donks for a bunch of holyrollers. But I guess when you’re a member of a new cult and you see your messiah, this kind of stuff is bound to happen.
Does anyone need any more proof that at their core liberals are little more than mind-numbed robots questing after their next charismatic leader? Bunch of emotion-led lemmings. Of course that’s what they like to accuse conservatives and Republicans of doing when we elected George Bush … that we blindly follow him. Another leftist lie exposed since no conservative “blindly follows” an elected official and we certainly don’t faint at their rallies.
Need any more proof that liberals are mind-numbed George Soros sockpuppets. Here’s what Susan Sarandan recently said on PBS’s Tavis Smiley show:
SARANDON: I’m going to back Obama (from being a John Edwards supporter), but I hope — I think that he as a symbol has really excited people, and he’s definitely confusing to everyone who really hates America for hating, you know, Muslims, because a name like Obama and a black, they’re probably going to go, “Oh, wait a minute, what?” It’s kind of like, you know, when you’re out on the line for, you know, freedom to have an abortion, and you’re incredibly pregnant, they just can’t quite figure out — so I think he definitely has convinced people that he stands for change and for hope, and I — I — you know, I can’t wait to see what he stands for.
Get it … she “can’t wait to see what he (Obama) stands for”! This points out two things. First, Sarandan (and most everybody else) doesn’t truly know what Obama stands for because he’s a masterful liberal neo-com obfuscator. Second, she’s a highly partisan moonbat who will blindly support Obama even though she doesn’t know what he stands for! Buwahahahahahaha. This country is in deep, deep trouble when a bunch of mind-numbed, liberal lemmings erect another one of their personality cults and the liberal media plays right along. This guy would have been a historical footnote if the lamestream media had gone after him they way they’ve gone after George W. when he ran for president and even Hillary Clinton. The clears bias of the liberal media the last six or seven years represents a far greater threat to our consitutional republican than any President supposedly overstepping his constitutional bounds in conducting a war against America’s enemies or an incompetent, dysfunctional Congress as presently led by the Donks.
57 mindknumbed kid // Feb 17, 2008 at 11:37 am
Now Darth, just because I recently endorsed Obama, that doesn’t mean you can use a variation of my fine name to refer to the liberal moonbats. Try broadening your vocabulary a bit, call them intelligent thought challenged or something of the such, can’t we, as comrades in the land of Ott, just get along ?
Also that great institution you referred to as “an incompetent, dysfunctional Congress” is not being led by the Donks, they haven’t the ability to lead anything, they are too blind to lead. They aren’t the real thing, just posers, totally clueless incompetent boobs.
Keep up the good work and be careful of my name usage!
58 ref // Feb 17, 2008 at 12:00 pm
That article was a cold drink of water after a long, hot day.
You nailed every point clearly and concisely and when you said,
“It’s time to kill compassionate conservatism, and to call Conservatives to rise up and… march boldly forward, with freedom as our object and compassion as the legacy of our rediscovered liberty.”
When you said that, I thought I heard Ronald Reagan himself saying it. God knows I miss that man.
This political season has been rough. This article helps. Thanks.
59 JamesonLewis3rd // Feb 17, 2008 at 12:19 pm
The oft-used word (phrase?) “mind-numbing” has been around for about 120 years.
60 Ms RightWing, Ink // Feb 17, 2008 at 12:20 pm
re:48
“Mr Lydell Mrs Lydell is looking for you.”
Hush, he is at his bud’s watching the Daytona 500.
Rednecks and wanna be rednecks, start your engines.
Trivia question-What state has more stock car tracks. No, not Georgia, Alabama nor North Carolina, rather Iowa. Guessed it right, then pass yourself another hushpuppie and return to the TV set.
wv: bereaved appear-Madame Hillary will now bring back the dead in Chicago and New York
61 Ms RightWing, Ink // Feb 17, 2008 at 12:29 pm
Say, did anyone kill the Mockingbird? I would say the dummies who mock everything the party has to say, but I would likely get a knock on my door.
“Fancy unto fancy, thinking what this ominous bird of yore -What this grim,ungainly, ghastly, gaunt, and ominous bird of yore meant in her last statement `Nevermore quote the Mockingbird
the spring: what sprung from my Sealy Posterpedic last night
62 Darthmeister // Feb 17, 2008 at 1:36 pm
I feel your pain, mnk! Really I do. But please don’t go on some fainting jag whenever you mention messiah Obama’s (Peace Be Upon Him) full name! [(~;]
I wonder if Obama’s (pbuh) handlers will start handing out palm branches at his next rally? That would certainly be something very “green” (won’t have to cut down the Amazon rainforest to do that) and certainly symbolically messianic. One still has to wonder with all his vapid public bloviating what Obama’s (pbuh) carbon footprint is now. I guess he can always buy more carbon credits from sHrillary.
63 Ms RightWing, Ink // Feb 17, 2008 at 2:02 pm
http://www.nypost.com/seven/02162008/news/regionalnews/obama_robbed_in_ny_97932.htm
Hmm, this is not Chicago-is it?
64 egospeak // Feb 17, 2008 at 3:05 pm
Hold the presses!!! Somebody get ahold of ET, Laughing@You, Brave 39, Liger and all the others!!! Parade magazine , a valuable and trusted source of the MSM has on their cover the world’s worst dictators and an accompanying story on the 10 worst world dictators and George W. Bush isn’t mentioned anywhere!!! Somebody tell Nan Pelosi and Harry Reid, moveon.org, dailykos, democratunderground, et al that BDS doesn’t exist!!! It must be true…Parade magazine says so!!! Isn’t this great???
Regards,
sarcasm mode off
oration fastest - What Hillary must do to overtake the prophet, Barack (peace be upon him) Obama.
65 Fred Sinclair // Feb 17, 2008 at 3:48 pm
ref #58 There was a time - or should I say; Once upon a time there was a country called The United States of America which over a period of time evolved into whatever it is we have today. Some call it The People’s Republic of America, and they’re not far off.
It used to be different. Men were men and women were women, it seemed to work pretty well, but those men wouldn’t take much interference or %#$&(*)_!& from their servants aka The Government . During the depression General Douglas MacArthur was in charge of the military guarding the Capitol. Major Dwight David Eisenhower and Major George Scott were his Adjutants .
A short clip from Wiki: “In May of that year, some 15,000 veterans, many unemployed and destitute, descended on Washington, D.C. to demand immediate payment of their bonus. They proclaimed themselves the Bonus Expeditionary Force but the public dubbed them the “Bonus Army.” Raising ramshackle camps at various places around the city, they waited.” and then after a drawn out wait they marched on the Capitol. Congress had voted the veterans a $1.25 per day bonus in 1932 and then voted it would not be paid to them until 1945! For their part in a war that had ended in 1918.
Finally the Army opened fire on the veterans killing several but one thing for sure there wasn’t any “girlymen” in the group. The feminization of America was still in the future.
With today’s liberals and a Nation made up of females and “girlymen” - some of those females are pretty much “____ to the wall” ladies in their own right. aka “G.I. Janes
But there’s no 15,000 to march on the capitol demanding the Wall be built NOW, demanding a real solution to illegal aliens, demanding those three Border Patrol Guards have their convictions overturned [not pardoned - overturned], demand an end to RvW, demand a line item veto for the President, demand an English only Amendment, etc., etc.
At my age and disabled - I can’t. But if I were a young man - I would! Unfortunately, all I can do is complain (and I hate doing that) Far too many teen age boys and twenty-somethings died to keep this nation free, and in thanksgiving we’re selling them out with our inaction, our lethargy, our complacency.
Heirborn Ranger
66 Darthmeister // Feb 17, 2008 at 5:20 pm
Some thoughtful liberals think Obama may end up being the next McGovern.
It’s not that Obama (pbuh) will be unfairly charactized as a “hard-left socialist” … his own voting record paints him as a hard-left socialist. It’s a matter of facts, not fairness. Of course Obama (pbuh) will try to obscure this inconvenient truth with his patented non-aggressive smoke-and-mirrors tap dance. So if he’s the Donk’s presidential candidate the lamestream media will either have to reveal itself as the lapdogs of the Democratic Party or they will begin to responsibly report who and what the real Barack Hussein Obama (pbuh) really is.
Some conservative pundits anticipate Obama (pbuh) may actually win the delegate count going into the Democratic Convention but sHrillary will end up with the nomination going into the fall as result of deals struck behind closed doors in smoke-filled rooms. Possibly, but it’s also well known that Barack Hussein (pbuh) has spent nearly a million dollars trying to buy off Democrat superdelegates and sHrillary isn’t far behind … so who knows what will really happen.
If Hillary gets the nomination, this will totally deflate the Obama Donk cult and may even split off ten percent of the black voters who see this as a dirty double-cross by white liberal powerbrokers or they may simply stay home and not vote, in either case McCain wins. The best opportunity the Donks have in November is for Obama (pbuh) to be their messiah while at the same time trying to masterfully shed the image of being some flaked out, far-left guru inspiring America’s largest cult … a very dangerous political cult at that.
However, if he doesn’t manage to effectively become a substantive issues candidate (without revealing his true neo-com creds), in today’s cynical political environment so-called “moderate” and swing voters probably will be put off by all the Obamamania and go with McCain. Who really wants a far left-wing cult leader with only three years of national service (two of those almost devoted exclusively to campaigning as president!) being the leader of the world’s most powerful country?
The ugly spectre of more Bay of Pigs and Cuban Missile Crisis may raise their heads if a young, naive, arrogant, inexperienced human Hallmarkâ„¢ card rides the wave of cult-like devotion to the White House. America’s enemies will not respect such a President though they have and will continue to endorse him as a candidate of their liking . One doesn’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure that one out.
If a spectacular failure in the economy is also accompanied by a ham-handed Obama (or Hillary for that matter) foreign policy gambit, this will hopefully suck Congressional Donks down right down the black hole of oblivion, particularly if a preciptious troop withdrawal from Iraq and Afghanistan results in utter chaos in the Middle East. It would be the most well-defined I-Told-You-So moment in American politics.
But then maybe Obama (pbuh) is the messiah and he will work miracles by righting the American ship of state, usher in a thousand years of peace in the Middle East, end world-wide hunger and poverty, and America will be loved by her friends and enemies alike! Hosannah! The golden utopia is around the corner! Obama in 2008, 2012, 2016, 2020 … heck, just make him supreme ruler for life! We can always amend the Constitution.
67 EXT // Feb 17, 2008 at 5:36 pm
If you’re one of the survivors it’ll be fun to see what happens to the Liberal president elected in 2008 (since there are no conservatives in the race).
WHEN the attack that makes 911 look like a fire drill happens….
There’s a fair chance that it will have happened because of failure to use all possible means to prevent it. Will there be demonstrations of approval for that president or will he/she/it be condemned for not using distasteful methods that would have prevented it?
Will those demonstrating in approval of the neglect all be killed by those demonstrating their upset at it having been allowed to? Would that win applause from the jihadists who’d benefit from an American civil war (unless the “wrong side” won)?
Actually, if we believe faithfully the doctrines of The First National Church of Global Warming, a civil war with mass fatalities would be a good thing. Fewer people = fewer harmful emissions. So long as the bodies are not cremated (smoke), allowed to rot (noxious gasses), or frozen (required harmful generation of electricity). I guess we could rocket ‘em into space aboard solar-powered vehicles made of dreams because using metal would plunder the earth and plastic would require petroleum. Which leaves the “Dine Out Tonight” option so long as there’s no fuel-consuming cooking involved.
68 gafisher // Feb 17, 2008 at 8:17 pm
Darth Re#66: “Some thoughtful liberals think Obama may end up being the next McGovern.”
McGovern had MUCH more experience than Obama, but thinking back to the glorious years of the McGovern Presidency, one can only hope Obama can repeat and even expand upon McGovern’s results.
69 gafisher // Feb 17, 2008 at 8:31 pm
EXT Re#67: Conservatives have just one hope remaining in this election, but few will take it. McCain is presenting himself as the presumed nominee, but even if all of Romney’s delegates go to McCain — which is not guaranteed to happen — McCain would still be slightly short of a majority.
If Conservatives can get behind McCain’s GOP opponents in the remaining primaries and keep him from hitting the “magic number,” Conservatives will go into the Convention with the ability to influence the outcome, perhaps even get Thompson, Hunter, or someone else nominated who would be less obnoxious to the huge number of Conservatives, Evangelicals and others who simply won’t support McCain. At the least we might be able to influence the VP choice.
At this point Gov. Huckabee has the best chance of helping us keep the Convention door from slamming on Conservatives. Even those Conservatives who might not vote for Huckabee in the General Election should support him now, if we have any hope of being heard at the Convention. Otherwise a liberal will be the next President.
70 Darthmeister // Feb 17, 2008 at 10:23 pm
Here are some Code Pinkos railing against Marine Corps recruiters. But please keep in mind, despite their loving denouncements of baby murdering Marines, don’t you dare question their patriotism since they really do SUPPORT THE TROOPS!
What moonbats. I bet to a person (excepting the guy defending the Marine Corps) they’re voting for Barack Hussein Obama (pbuh).
71 mindknumbed kid // Feb 17, 2008 at 11:34 pm
I have been told before when I mentioned marching on Washington for what we as conservatives want to see our government doing i.e. the border fence, support for the war, even reduced pork. I was told “we don’t do that”, well, maybe it is about time to be heard. Maybe if we got out in large enough numbers the elected officials and even the MSM would have to pay attention. If we get a McCain presidency perhaps we could even force him into taking a more conservative stance if we are seen and heard. I have a major problem doing anything because as a member of the working class my time is spent in significant quantities at my place of employment, completely out of necessity.It may just be pie in the sky, but I would love to see a real million man march down Pennsylvania Avenue by a band of folks from the VRWC. Would it make a difference ? I don’t know, but it would beat getting socialism shoved down our throats day after day.
72 boberinyetagain // Feb 18, 2008 at 11:39 am
If only more people thought like you folks, your party would have put up a more “acceptable” candidate and they might even win the election.
But, they don’t so…
wv=diplomacy back, that’ll be the day eh?
73 mindknumbed kid // Feb 18, 2008 at 12:41 pm
Well I see where Pappy Bush has endorsed McShame. The message is getting clearer and clearer, the Rockefeller moderate “mainstream” of the party are through with the conservatives, they have tollerated it as long as they are going to. They really didn’t like Reagan all that much, but he was so popular and so effective it was impossible to oppose him. Then along came Rush and his popularity and influence could not be denied, so they tolerated him too, but they are not going to be victimized by the VRWC conservative Christian block anymore. They are going to return to their roots, and they are going to get their candidate on the ballot, do we understand this now ? If you want to continue to have a solid conservative candidate to support from here on out, you had better find another party to work through, so if this is how it is, we might as well organize a third party and be ready by 2012. Beware of McShame “reaching out” as it is probably just an effort to get a good enough grip to throw us overboard.
74 mindknumbed kid // Feb 18, 2008 at 12:44 pm
Arrgh, it ios against my nature to be so pushy!
75 mindknumbed kid // Feb 18, 2008 at 12:46 pm
it’s, not ios. Where is my coffee ?
76 mindknumbed kid // Feb 18, 2008 at 1:11 pm
EXT, that is the First Universal Church of Global Warming. For the cause, the nation is not enough, they are thinking globally, at a minimum. Their platform gives them the impetus to go beyond the planet even, as the warming could have an effect on the whole universe! The anti-Christ will need a world stage when he presents himself, what better than this bogus global crisis to serve as his platform?
77 mindknumbed kid // Feb 18, 2008 at 1:13 pm
Scott - Is this thing out of gas? I’m pushin’ it again…
78 everthink // Feb 18, 2008 at 2:03 pm
Since you “Conservativesâ€, with the help of Brother Joe Billy, figure you know the when life begins. Where is the human soul before conception?
Try reading how The Almightily revealed to Job just how ignorant, and arrogant the best of men really is!
You insist that the prostitute give birth to her unwanted, and unloved child; a child who will often become part of the social welfare system, before becoming part of the criminal justice system.
One who, in the process, may well become a person who JUSTLY hates the world into which you have enslaved him, and may act out that rage by taking the life of someone you love. After that, you would rather KILL him than pay for the cost of his incarceration.
Oil Depletion Allowances are fine with you, but you do not want your hard-earned tax money going to the “welfare queenâ€. You claim your charity is the answer, but many of you claim the “Prosperity Gospelâ€, while watching others go hungry.
Why not include the money of the greedy, in the delivery of your charity as a “Christian Nationâ€.
Some say abstinence and chastity is the answer. Good idea, but have you seen any numbers on the failure rate of the young people who have taken an oath to it?
I ask the abstinence and chastity proponents; how’d that work for you?
ET
Matthew 26:52: Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.
79 Fred Sinclair // Feb 18, 2008 at 3:42 pm
mkk - Shame on you - wait, er, I take that back, I was jumping to a conclusion. That’s bad and I apologize. But then, if not you, then who dunnit? Obviously somebody slipped in and spiked e.t.’s stash. From what I’ve heard only someone spaced out on something could have authored #78 - but then on the other hand e.t. could be the victim of identity theft and some idiot wasted on PCP wrote having usurped his name. That must be it! Once again, my most abject and humble apology.
Heirborn Ranger
WV: They relax - speaking of Congress
80 mindknumbed kid // Feb 18, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Perfectly! Every time it is practiced.
81 mindknumbed kid // Feb 18, 2008 at 4:23 pm
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him. Prov 26:4
82 mindknumbed kid // Feb 18, 2008 at 4:47 pm
Is it society’s responsibility to step in and fix every problem that is a clear result of someone who lives in violation of both civil and moral law ? God JUSTLY hates sin and disobedience, humans hate because we are not living by God’s laws. Job was not wrong, only ignorant of things, which we ALL are when judged by God’s knowledge. The unjust are not unjust because of the just, and there is none righteous apart from Christ’s imputed righteousness. To know when life begins is not something an intelligent, thinking person needs help in knowing, only living beings experience growth. I know this because no dead being has ever grown. You are a person that is willingly ignorant and that seeks to find gray rather than acknowledge absolute right or wrong. The foundation of the world is based on absolutes, the foundations of the world to come are absolute as well. Are you ready to give your account or will you be making excuses and pointing fingers ?
83 mindknumbed kid // Feb 18, 2008 at 4:48 pm
Push, push,pushing on…
84 everthink // Feb 18, 2008 at 5:02 pm
MNK
John 8:7
“So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.â€
The law REQUIRED stoning. There was no other option! Those “conservatives†were in the right; at least about that!
I see you still have you rock, throw it!
ET
85 JamesonLewis3rd // Feb 18, 2008 at 5:46 pm
As Cackling Queen Hill, co-star of The Hill & Bill Show, would say, “That’s puh!THET!ick!”
[cue selected stereo audio clips from The Wizard of Oz (Tubular Bells can be heard faintly in the background from the left speaker only)]
By the way, and a bit more On Topic:
I have prayerfully considered my recent conundrum and discovered that, taking all possible scenarios to their logical conclusions AND in all good conscience, there’s no way I could vote for any of the Republican candidates and there is only One Solution.
Therefore, I’m telling The Entire Universe—right here and now—that, on 04 March 2008 and again on 04 November 2008 (228 days from now), I will be voting—Oh, so very prayerfully and proudly—for the Republican Party.
Thank you
God Bless America
86 prettyold // Feb 18, 2008 at 6:05 pm
JL3 , I get to vote tomorrow and I too shall just vote straight Republican. And again in November. But I am not donating any money to the Republican party this year ,just to selected candidates for state offices and the Republican candidate for The House,if Wi Repubs ever gets around to running anyone.
If we Conservatives are to be shunned during the selection process,we will still show up with our vote,but we will not be backing the Party financially.
87 prettyold // Feb 18, 2008 at 6:13 pm
Gee willikers ET, sometimes you astound me.You say,
“I see you still have you rock, throw it!”
I think you have just come up with a name for the next new music style.”You rock,throw it” is much better than “head bangers”
I know ,I know ,no one makes more typos than I do.
going Schley The only way we can go here in Wi (1 horse open)
88 everthink // Feb 18, 2008 at 6:22 pm
Say prettyold,
OK, OK, Yourrrrr!
About your 86,
Good move, that way you can save your money till this time next year, when McCain is on television selling The Clapper.
ET
89 mindknumbed kid // Feb 18, 2008 at 7:05 pm
Why then do we have laws ? Obviously Christ said there is no price to be paid for breaking any law. In fact, if you do break the law you had to do it because of mean-spirited hate mongers and you should receive help from society as a whole to make your life one of ease.Are you able to “wrest” the scriptures yourself or is there someone helping you with that ? That wasn’t my rock, you handed it to me when you left in such haste.
BTW - I endorsed your relative earlier in the thread, why didn’t you show your appreciation for helping him ?
90 mindknumbed kid // Feb 18, 2008 at 7:43 pm
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. Genesis 2:7
Where is the soul before conception ? Within the creative being,or as we usually refer to him, God. Now we know that the actual creation was done by the Son, but not independent of the Father, I suspect the breath of life was the work of the Spirit of God. You don’t have to agree with my view, but It is how I see it. I claim no expertise, and have not looked at it as deeply as I could.I believe all God does is carried out by the trinity acting as one, each having an intricate part.
91 mindknumbed kid // Feb 18, 2008 at 8:20 pm
But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. 2 Cor 4:3-4
The god of this world that blinds their minds is also the only one that enslaves people into lives that they hate. As an American citizen we are free to use our abilities to make a better life for ourselves, if anyone wants to keep them down it is the liberals who bind them with invisible regulations that keep them from getting up on their own two feet and making something for themselves. No one I know of on the conservative side wants to let anyone starve to death, but there are plenty who want to help them be able to take care of their own needs. I have a close relative that is young and did not finish high school, is too good to work at McDonald’s or Walmart, has no real job skills and is now standing in line at social services for help. Has all kinds of plans as to how to make big money…none of them involve a regular job, working for it. Just whose fault is that ? That person might just hate the world in which they are enslaved, but nobody did it to them. But I am glad they got help for now, they were down to skin and bones, nothing to eat. Time for them to pull their head out and start figuring out how to make their own way.It is up to that person, no one can do it for them.
92 mindknumbed kid // Feb 18, 2008 at 8:44 pm
Greed, however, is a huge problem in our nation. Not because we do not offer to pay more for social spending, or oppose social spending. But because we as a people are willing to be very unethical in business dealings, willing to take advantage of situations such as here in Gillette,Whyoming where there isn’t enough rental property to house all of the people that are needed to fill jobs here. Oh I know, supply and demand….but it is hurting folks, and many who come here do not stay because of housing costs and availability. I got around the problem by finding a home for sale and buying it. The owners were a bit greedy and turned down 32,500 more than I bought it for after it didn’t sell for a few months.
How much was it that the Clinton’s and Gore’s gave a few years back ? Liberals generally don’t seem too charitable do they ?
93 egospeak // Feb 18, 2008 at 8:50 pm
Re: 78
Forgive me… but here goes.
“Where is the human soul before conception?” I am as ignorant as Job, so I really don’t know, but I do understand some logic. By your own admission, you believe the soul enters the body at conception, so why would you defend abortion if the body being aborted has a soul? If you don’t believe the soul has value (the right to life) then why ask the question in the first place?
“You insist that the prostitute give birth to her unwanted, and unloved child; a child who will often become part of the social welfare system, before becoming part of the criminal justice system.” Have some experience with prostitutes ET? That was a cheap shot, my apologies. Nonetheless there is no law that states that any woman, much less a prostitute has to keep her unwanted or unloved child. There is this thing called adoption, you may have heard of it.
While it is certainly possible that the child of a hooker may become part of the social welfare system and the criminal justice system, it is unlikely that it is because of prolife orthodoxy, it is more likely that it is the result of the lack of a father in the household. Coincidently that is why conservative are not in favor of the welfare state… and are in favor of traditional marriage.
As far as whether we “would rather KILL him than pay for the cost of his incarceration.” I can only speak for myself. Some crimes are so despicable, so heinous that the only recourse is the death penalty. As for the cost, it is the anti-death penalty people who claim that it costs more to keep a prisoner on death row until execution, than to keep them in prison for life. There is also the question of whether they will stay in prison for life. There have already been legal challenges to “life without the possibility of parole” and it is only a matter of time before some judge rules it unconstitutional.
It is quite true that I don’t want my money going to a welfare queen, especially when the system encourages more out of wedlock children and the replacing of the father with cash. On the basis of what I’ve read of the Christians that contribute to this site, I seriously doubt that any subscribe to the health/wealth/prosperity gospel and if they are remotely like me they contribute to ministries that help to feed the hungry. Nice ad hominem try anyway.
It is not my right to include “the money of the greedy” in the delivery of my charity, and it is not charity if I or anyone else (the government) forcibly take someone elses money for what they call charity. It is called theft if I do it and socialism if the government does it.
Have you seen the failure rate of those who haven’t taken abstinance and chastity pledges? I guarantee you it’s higher than the rate of those who do.
Matthew 26:52 is a great verse… what does it have to do with any of this?
Regards,
wv - (register mount) What you had to do everytime you bought a new horse.
94 everthink // Feb 18, 2008 at 10:12 pm
“Have some experience with prostitutes ET? That was a cheap shot, my apologies.”
You apologize a for “cheap shot”, then post it?
I opt NOT to post a “cheap shot” reply!
ET
95 egospeak // Feb 19, 2008 at 7:47 am
“I opt NOT to post a ‘cheap shot ‘ reply!” I appreciate your new found graciousness! Now you can reply to my points dispassionately.
Regards,
wv - ($2.50 Tremont) The cost for a room for the night at the Tremont Hotel 100 years ago.
96 gafisher // Feb 19, 2008 at 8:04 am
ET Re#94: “I opt NOT to post a “cheap shot†reply!”
Do you have one?
That sounds like the Clintons saying they’ve decided not to reveal the information they’ve got that Obama was a drug dealer.
BTW, I’ll side with egospeak on this — to assert that every child of a prostitute is de facto going to be unwanted and unloved and probably become a burden on society goes beyond mere bigotry. To suggest that killing all such children is good while punishing the few who, when they grow up, actually prove to deserve it is bad is inconsistent to the point of being irrational.
And by the way, incessant use of Scripture out of context to somehow legitimize unfounded statements reveals a serious lack of understanding not only of the words of Scripture, but of its holiness. All too often posts such as #78 posts appear to use the Bible like someone employing a phrasebook to lecture in an unfamiliar language.
I would not question someone’s Christianity, if they claim it, but such inconsistent positions certainly raise questions about the claimant’s maturity.
[edited to avoid the appearance of argumentum ad hominem.]
97 Ms RightWing, Ink // Feb 19, 2008 at 8:42 am
Dateline Havana
Cuban president and all around good fellow has tossed in the rag and decided his ‘53 Chevy had no more miles left on the odometer.
His brother, Odellpheius has taken power and will appear in his victory parade driving the new(er) ‘54 Desoto.
Two cigars in every pot and a chicken at least once a year is the new leader’s mantra.
Citizens of Cuba can view Fidel sitting in his Chevy attempting to die later this week.
wv: his tartan-well just what is under that kilt
98 boberinyetagain // Feb 19, 2008 at 8:48 am
Pot in every chicken? That should make him quite popular, a fine idea!
overdrawn to-day: now that’s fitting
99 Darthmeister // Feb 19, 2008 at 11:36 am
neverthink quotes scripture in the same manner his spiritual father Lucifer does. Ah, neverthink is such an angel of light bringing false accusations and partisan hackery to bear on Christian conservatives. One does have to admire his endless canards and strawhorse arguments all in the name of liberal “enlightenment”.
One day you will get exactly what your deserve dear troll and it will be a pleasure to witness it. Your lies and bigotry toward salt-of-the-earth Christians will be well reward by your Father of Lies. Far better to reign in Hell than to serve in Heaven, eh neverthink. I’m confident you’ll get your chance to reign supreme.
THE OBAMA BUBBLE….Paul Krugman this morning:
One thing I worry about a lot if Obama is the Dem nominee — and he’s surely the frontrunner now — is that there will be a backlash against Obamamania. Actually, it’s already starting — probably too late to have much effect on the nomination fight, but in plenty of time to affect the general election.
I hope I’m just a cynical baby boomer who has never really trusted any politician since 1968. But I just have a very bad feeling about the way things are going.
Heh!
David Brooks last night:
Obama says he is practicing a new kind of politics, but why has his PAC sloshed $698,000 to the campaigns of the superdelegates, according to the Center for Responsive Politics? Is giving Robert Byrd’s campaign $10,000 the kind of change we can believe in?
If he values independent thinking, why is his the most predictable liberal vote in the Senate? A People for the American Way computer program would cast the same votes for cheaper.
….Does The Changemaker have the guts to take on the special interests in his own party — the trial lawyers, the teachers’ unions, the AARP?
And if he were president now, how would the High Deacon of Unity heal the breach that split the House last week?
Obama is using his [pocket] change to buy off Donk superdelegates, which says a lot about Obama and those superdelegates, eh? He’s spent over four times as much as sHrillary trying to CHANGE superdelegates minds. So gimme sum o’ dat ol’ time politickin’ whar yus are preachin’ change but engagin’ in the same ol’ same ol’! That’s liberal principles for ya. Liar!
100 redneck twink // Feb 23, 2008 at 11:17 pm
McCain needs to pick a Real Man for his vice. Newt or Delay, I’m thinking.
Andy Elkins
601-425-2311
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