(2007-01-02) — President George Bush today weighed in on the controversy over the treatment of Saddam Hussein in the final moments before the former Iraqi president’s hanging last Saturday.
A cellphone video of the scene on YouTube.com, and elsewhere online, records several male voices in the death chamber shouting insults at the soon-to-be-late former dictator.
Mr. Bush, who has previously hailed the execution of the tyrant as another step in Iraq’s march toward freedom, said today that perhaps those who insulted Mr. Hussein should have been “penalized for taunting.”
“I think the ref should have thrown the flag,” said Mr. Bush. “There’s a certain professionalism and protocol you expect when a man who slaughtered your friends and relatives is about to die before your very eyes. I believe they probably hurt Saddam’s feelings and the ref should have given them 15 yards of rope, backed them up and made them take the down over.”
80 responses so far ↓
1 CalGirl // Jan 2, 2007 at 4:45 pm
Heeheehee. Good one.
2 SeaDog // Jan 2, 2007 at 4:56 pm
After all those years of torture that he visited upon his own people, it seemed a shame that it was all over so quickly. Perhaps, instead of a trap door, they should have used a hydralically controlled surface which would have take about an hour to reach it’s lowest point. It would have bought him a little extra time to ponder his past actions.
3 JamesonLewis3rd // Jan 2, 2007 at 5:24 pm
The grief-stricken plaudits by many LLL/MSM of their executed hero sicken me.
4 mephitis // Jan 2, 2007 at 5:24 pm
They could have had one of the Evil One’s plastic chippers under the trap door. Running of course. Imagine Sadam hoping the rope holds.
Is that Cruel? OOps my bad.
5 Analchord // Jan 2, 2007 at 5:46 pm
Kramer doing stand-up to a heckling Saddam. “We used to hang dictators like you, sir!”
I really happy for your success and invite everyone over to the Atlanta Constitution’s blog. Wooten or Luchovich. It’s me and about a thousand trolls.
But no hacks allowed. We can spot a hack a mile away.
6 gafisher // Jan 2, 2007 at 5:51 pm
A lawful execution, as this was, serves primarily to bring the offender before the final Judge. While there can be no doubt that Saddam’s victims have seen justice done, the insults at his hanging were unbecoming the gravity of the situation. The executioners were there to carry out the Court’s punishment, not their own.
“‘Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,’ says the Lord.”
7 mig // Jan 2, 2007 at 6:30 pm
Losers never prosper…
8 Darthmeister // Jan 2, 2007 at 6:38 pm
Yeah, it’s not nice to hurt someone’s feeling before they are sent on their way to Hell.
I suppose the Monty Python refrain - Your mother wears army boots and your father stinks of eldeberry - would have been more appropriate under the circumstances.
9 Darthmeister // Jan 2, 2007 at 7:06 pm
First it was Ted Orcaquiddick Kennedy, now it’s the lamestream media. Osama bin Laden is now identified as Obama!
But only Rush Limbaugh gets condemned by the pinheads in the liberal media by making mention of Kennedy’s “Osama Obama” verbal fumble. Hypocritical dolts.
10 GnuCarSmell // Jan 2, 2007 at 7:13 pm
You can tell that the jeers and taunts tested Saddam’s patience. He looked to be at the end of his rope. No, wait…bad analogy….
11 da Bunny // Jan 2, 2007 at 8:26 pm
Re: #9 MUWAHAHAHAHA! Time to break out the Paul Shanklin CD!!
12 Analchord // Jan 2, 2007 at 9:07 pm
We have crucified the bizarro christ. Saddam was the messiah to sunnis. Saddam was barabbas to the shia.
We set up this slide into chaos early on when we captured him and decided to let the New Iraq have him for trial. That was stupid, because it accelerated the time line of peaceful transition to Iraqi sovereignity.
Because this important formal expression of Iraqi Bubble Government autonomy was turned into a Clint Eastwood movie, we have probably passed the fail safe point in this doomsday movie.
We can never leave Iraq now. Ever.
Saddam to his heckling audience: “You better look at a man when you hang ‘im.”
Time to look at the most important prayer in Islam: “There is no God but Allah”. The opening four words are “There is no God…” That is a terrible prayer. It doesn’t matter what you say after, “There is no god”, now does it?
We have to respect islam, but only because it lives in people, and we have to respect people. That’s why we cant have an american government that includes one drop of holy water.
I fully expect that the joint chiefs have already staged a mini-coup against any bush surge. I think they unanimously gave W the thumbs down on any incursion into sadr city.
I think our country is in the “Seven Days in May” scenario right now, with one person able to make all the difference.
A democratic iraq? A shia dominated republic? I mean, the entire demography of Iraq is an unfathomable pool of ethnic and sectarian intersects of cross border tribes.
In Sadr City, there is a maze of underground passages. No army could go in there. It would instantly become stalingrad, with men fighting over rooms and desks and attick and basements.
We lost. I’ll be the first to report to W. We have lost. To win now, we would have to slaughter the very government we just installed. The shia militias are the constituency of the Bubble Government. We chose already, by elections, the SHIA.
We lost. We have installed the enemy of Israel, and we have installed people who have been chanting “Death to America” since Woodstock.
we have created the shia superstate.
We lost. I demand the surrender of Osama Bin Laden. I demand the resignation of George Bush and Dick Cheney. Lets let the speaker of the house run things for awhile……..D’OH!
13 Ms RightWing, Ink // Jan 2, 2007 at 9:15 pm
I heard his last words were “Go ahead you won’t have me to kick around no more.”
14 Ghoti // Jan 2, 2007 at 9:21 pm
If we had merely given Saddam a slap on the wrist for his crimes against humanity, the leftists would have complained that it wasn’t a limp-wristed slap.
15 seneuba // Jan 2, 2007 at 9:48 pm
And I thought he was hanged just because he brought the Iraqis a picante sauce from New York City.
NEW YORK CITY!!!
16 Libby Gone // Jan 2, 2007 at 9:50 pm
Butnote,
Your fantastic dreamworld must be quite a trip.
Saddameyes got exactly what he deserved. My only concern was the fact he looked afraid. Was he not the prognosticator of fearless torture and death?
If some ridiculous fool wants the mantra (and WE ALL KNOW SOMEONE DOES)
well,
bring it.
17 JamesonLewis3rd // Jan 2, 2007 at 10:23 pm
Those homicidal/suicidal maniacs would not be fighting back so desperately if we have “lost.”
Our goals are righteous and I contend we are winning and will emerge victorious and history will commend our courage.
All the perverts, all the traitors, all the baby-killers in the world cannot and will not prevail over what is right, what is good, what is true about this great country.
God Bless America.
God Bless President Bush.
God Bless Us, One and All.
18 RedPepper // Jan 2, 2007 at 10:45 pm
The Sunnis are seething and whining over the disrespect that was displayed to Saddam.
Anyone recall the DVDs of Saddam’s victims being tortured and hurled from buildings and otherwise murdered that were sold in the markets of Baghdad shortly after Saddam fell?
Anyone recall the Sunnis ever apologising for inflicting this mass-murderer (and his henchmen) on the Shia? On the Kurds? On the Iranians? On the Kuwaitis? On the Sunnis he victimized? No? Me neither.
So now the Sunnis are offended.
Isn’t that [Bleep!]in’ horrible?
19 mig // Jan 2, 2007 at 11:01 pm
RedPepper -
You got it.
Here’s a twist…Everyone is supposed to apologize. And noone is supposed to apologize.
20 Darthmeister // Jan 2, 2007 at 11:33 pm
Saddam Execution Video Draws Criticisms
Give me a break. And not a peep from these handwringing critics about the Sunni sniper video broadcasted by CNN showing American soldiers getting shot.
The only thing America or the present Iraqi government should apologize for is not hanging Saddam sooner. Saddam got a thousand times more justice than any of his victims and the left and Sunni Islamofascists still aren’t happy! And there it is again, the left and Islamofascists, kissin’ cousins in blaming America and hating Bush.
21 Darthmeister // Jan 2, 2007 at 11:53 pm
The liars at the New York Times are at it again. This time they claimed the El Salvadoran government unjustly prosecuted a young woman who aborted her 18 week-old pregnancy. In reality she had suffocated her full-term baby. AND THE NYT STILL DEFENDS THE STORY despite court documents which proves it wrong!
The National Inquirer has a better track record than the NYT.
22 camojack // Jan 3, 2007 at 1:17 am
Saddam screwed up; he should’ve left when he had the chance.
23 Harry Daschle // Jan 3, 2007 at 5:18 am
At least Saddam was not burned and dragged through the streets, or burned and hung from a bridge like some of ours!
I will have to admit, that although I am glad Saddam cannot harm another living soul, the look of his face for a brief moment, while on the gallows, almost made me feel sorry for him.
camojack: I agree with you (he should have left), but those in power never think they will have to pay the fiddler!
That will be true of Iran’s fool, Syria’s idiot, and MOST politicans, (BOTH party’s), here in America!
24 Beerme // Jan 3, 2007 at 6:13 am
Can you imagine how angry Saddam was made by hearing the chants of “Moqtada”, before the drop? That in itself, seems almost worth the lack of decorum during such a solemn occasion…
25 MargeinMI // Jan 3, 2007 at 7:02 am
It is well known that according to the United Nations Big Book of Protocol and Manners that the terms ‘nya-nya-nya’ and ‘nanner-nanner’ are unacceptable taunts, causing much consternation and hurt feelings. I belive there are sanctions that can be applied to offenders.
How DARE they!
26 Maggie // Jan 3, 2007 at 8:26 am
‘Morning Marge,
Also included in the “Big book of protocol” as unacceptable taunts are Nynuk…Nynuk….Nynuk and “Yo Mama”.
27 Ms RightWing, Ink // Jan 3, 2007 at 9:02 am
Morning all. To tired to be witty, so I will just wave on the way past
28 Darthmeister // Jan 3, 2007 at 9:20 am
A great victory for progressives everywhere, no taunting at hangings. Makes for a kinder gentler hanging, I guess.
29 MargeinMI // Jan 3, 2007 at 9:36 am
I don’t know, justice finally for the thousands of innocents who perished by his hand, makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. But hey, that’s just me.
Maggie, Yes, ‘Yo mama’ also includes the sub-taunt: ‘Yo mama and yo daddy and yo slap happy grand pappy!’
Ms. RW, I’ve got sunshine and pushin’ 50 today. (Yay Global Warming, oops I mean Climate Change!) Hope your day is sunshiny as well.
30 Darthmeister // Jan 3, 2007 at 9:45 am
A Grim Milestoneâ„¢ under Saddam Hussein.
For the John Hopkins Study regarding civilian deaths in Iraq to be true, over 450 Iraqi civilians a day must have died EVERY DAY for the last three years. Yet the ever vigilant liberal media has never recorded a single day where Iraqi deaths reached 150/day. On average the liberal and Islamic media have reported an average of 40 deaths a day, 99% due to Islamofascist targetting. Under Saddam, the number was twice that and it was called “peace”.
31 upnorthlurkin // Jan 3, 2007 at 9:58 am
Our local rag’s photo of Saddam showed some guy putting a black cloth around Saddam’s neck before they hung him. We wear similar things in winter and call them turtles….I suppose his was to prevent rope burn! (Nyuck, nyuck…)
32 Ms RightWing, Ink // Jan 3, 2007 at 10:24 am
upnorth
Did you get my e-mail?
I have two addresses, so I don’t know which is the real you.
33 upnorthlurkin // Jan 3, 2007 at 12:17 pm
Ms. RW, no email from you but I emailed you a few ways of reaching me…..
34 onlineanalyst // Jan 3, 2007 at 1:08 pm
OLgA here… Having spent the last several days engaging in self-flagellation with a wet noodle for attempting to educate the resident troll who has acute reading comprehension and reasong problems, I could offer a recipe for a cold sauerkraut salad.
OR I could draw attention to an issue that has made me hot for the last several days. The “sensitivity training” of TSA employees prior to the hajj flights through the guidance of CAIR is a final straw in disgust over Homeland Security’s ineptness.
Andrew McCarthy wrote a terrific commentary that describes CAIR’s multiple links with terrorism sponsorship and players. The piece is linked in powerlineblog’s thread on the same issue. Is the nation engaged in clueless PC or covert rope-a-dope? Sleepers, awake indeed!
35 Ms RightWing, Ink // Jan 3, 2007 at 1:12 pm
Scrapple in suspended animation?
36 GnuCarSmell // Jan 3, 2007 at 1:55 pm
Iraq’s strange drug laws explain the scarf around Saddam’s neck. It was to make sure he didn’t come into direct contact with hemp — which, ironically, is punishable by death-by-hanging. Besides, nothing worse than getting the munchies en route to those 72 virginia hams.
37 tgtbtu // Jan 3, 2007 at 1:55 pm
In all honesty, This was not a state execution. This was a good old fashioned redneck lynching of a Semite by Persians, who happen to genetically identify as Aryans/Caucasians just like their Christian brothers in the Ku Klux Klan. And like the Klan, Saddam’s executioners are big on the whole “purity” thing too they’ll kill ANY Sunni or other Semite who tries to mack on one of their women. They kill their daughters for fraternizing with non- Shiite men as well.
For those of you questioning me on the “Semite” thing, all I can say is that if you don’t think Saddam was a Semite, you’ve obviously never read the Bible or if you HAVE read it, you have the reading comprehension of a small and dimwitted child. The Arabs are descended from Joktan, who descended from Shem just like the Sephardic Jews. The Shiites on the other hand and primarily Caucasian their ancestors originated from the north, like the Turks. So what we have here once again is white people gleefully murdering Semites on the pretext of religious grounds, in order to confiscate the property and resources controlled by said Semites, in order to enrich the white people who are doing the stealing and killing.
Gee, never heard THAT theme before, have we?
Alexander the Great. Kills Darius and then recruits the Persian Army to join him and go kill Semites. Caesar pretty much the same story. Constantine, Act III. Pope Urban and the subsequent Thirteen Crusades. World War I. World War II. Operation Desert Storm. And last, but also least in terms of intelligence, character, integrity, ability, eloquence and every other measurable leadership skill, comes George W Bush and the Last Crusade. The history of man for the last 2340 years is one endless stream of vicious greedy Caucasians murdering Semites to steal their stuff, without provocation of any kind by the endlessly victimized Semitic people. It never seems to end.
Bush is playing a VERY dangerous game with forces far beyond his comprehension. He’s trying to help the Caucasian Shiites, who Bush and his Evangelicals have so much in common with, oppress and lynch secular Sunnis while at the same time trying to help the Caucasian non-Semitic Ashkenazi Jews in Israel steal the land of Canaan from its Semitic inhabitants. What he seems not to realize is that if you hold a stick of dynamite in your hand which has a fuse on either end and then light both fuses, you get blown to smithereens no matter WHICH fuse hits the dynamite first.
In all of human history, I cannot find a single example of a dumber course of action than the course of actions taken by George Bush, [deleted] Cheney, and Donald Rumsfeld in Iraq and Afghanistan. In a series of disastrous “play it by ear and make it up as we go along” decisions, they’ve basically handed world-changing geostrategic power to the only group of human beings who are more fanatical than Evangelical Christians the Shiites. America’s current course of action virtually ensures nuclear war in the Middle East between Shiites and Israel.
More perspective in this interesting article:
http://www.rense.com/general74/thredf.htm
38 everthink // Jan 3, 2007 at 1:56 pm
Yo OLga. Resident Troll here!
Educate on! Please, start with teaching me the meaning of “reasong”. Then, if you would not mind, explain your statement:
“The proof of the pudding that it’s power politics all the time that motivates the Dhimmi-donks is the failure of their leaders and party representation to be present at the funeral of a former president.†Comment by onlineanalyst — January 1, 2007 @ 11:45 am
I hope you can understand my confusion since, as I write, President Carter is preparing to speak at President Ford’s funeral, or memorial, as part of an agreement he had with the late president. Then, if you wouldn’t mind. tell Hankmeister how the Democrats “hated” Gerald Ford. He’s so confused, about so many things, you know?
Please do give my regards to “the highly accredited” Dr. Smart won’t you?
Do this breath deeply and as you exhale, slowly say: Oooohhhmmmm, again: Oooohhhmmmm, once more: Oooohhhmmmm. Fell better?
Yer bud, ET
39 everthink // Jan 3, 2007 at 1:58 pm
feel
40 JamesonLewis3rd // Jan 3, 2007 at 2:05 pm
Talk about hilarious:
Mohammad Ali Ramin, Advisor to Iranian President Ahmadinejad: ‘Hitler Was Jewish’
41 topnotch // Jan 3, 2007 at 2:38 pm
I thought you would enjoy this little blurb of nonfiction:
Many will recall that on July 8, 1947 witnesses claimed that an
unidentified object with five aliens aboard crashed onto a sheep and
cattle ranch outside Roswell, New Mexico
This is a well known incident that many say has long been covered up by
the U.S Air Force and the Federal Government.
However, you may NOT know that in the month of March 1948 exactly nine
months after that historic day, Albert Arnold Gore, Jr.; Hillary Rodham Clinton;
John F. Kerry; William Jefferson Clinton; Howard Dean; Nancy
Pelosi; Dianne Feinstein; Charles E. Schumer and Barbara Boxer were
born.
See what happens when aliens breed with sheep…? This piece of
information may clear up a lot of things.
Top
42 The Great Santini // Jan 3, 2007 at 3:01 pm
tgtbtu:
Thank you for the Toynbeesque sweep of your post; its shallowness would have greatly embarrassed him.
everCodePink:
I smell sauerkraut salad. Is that you? Gladeâ„¢, please.
[From an old Smothers Brothers gag]
♪ ♪ ♪
[Somber guitar music, minor key]
Hangman, hangman, slack your rope
Hangman, hangman, slack your rope
Slack it while you…[choking, snap, glottal stop, silence]
♪ ♪ ♪
43 everthink // Jan 3, 2007 at 3:15 pm
I guess I never will understand the difference between a Scrappleface parody and a lie.
Charles E. Schumer, born November 23, 1950
Howard Dean, born on: November 17, 1948
Albert Arnold Gore, Jr., born on: March 31, 1948
Hillary Rodham Clinton, born on: October 26, 1947.
William Jefferson Clinton, born on: August 19, 1946
John F. Kerry, born on: December 11, 1943
Barbara Boxer, born: November 11, 1940
Nancy Pelosi, born: March 26, 1940
Dianne Feinstein, born June 22, 1933
ET
44 everthink // Jan 3, 2007 at 3:21 pm
Santini,
Is the State of California liable for the stuff you peck out on their time?
ET
45 everthink // Jan 3, 2007 at 4:13 pm
tgtbtu,
I’m Caucasian, and an Evangelical Christian. Do you regard me as your enemy?
46 tgtbtu // Jan 3, 2007 at 5:50 pm
no, not enemy; I think, you are a misguided one. I am a Caucasian as well but I do not believe in monotheism.
Things will sort out- do not worry; I am not here to preach anything- you need to be ready and you are not.
47 Darthmeister // Jan 3, 2007 at 6:07 pm
I think topnotch has a point. And they were illegal space aliens to boot!
48 JamesonLewis3rd // Jan 3, 2007 at 6:08 pm
If you ask me, Cindy Sheehan, the filthy traitor, has a lot of nerve considering herself to be spokesperson for the “grassroots” of the USA.
49 Darthmeister // Jan 3, 2007 at 6:28 pm
From Wikipedia:
The Nixon pardon was highly controversial. Critics derided the move and claimed a “corrupt bargain” had been struck between the men. They claimed Ford’s pardon was quid pro quo in exchange for Nixon’s resignation that elevated Ford to the Presidency …
Despite the situation, Ford never accepted the offer from Alexander Haig and later decided to pardon Nixon on his own terms. Regardless, historians believe the controversy was one of the major reasons Ford lost the election in 1976, an observation with which Ford concurred. In an editorial at the time, The New York Times stated that the Nixon pardon was “a profoundly unwise, divisive and unjust act” that in a stroke had destroyed the new president’s “credibility as a man of judgment, candor and competence.”[sounds just like the same ol' DemDonk playbook.]
Ford faced two assassination attempts during his presidency, occurring within three weeks of each other. While in Sacramento, California on September 5, 1975, Lynette “Squeaky” Fromme, a follower of Charles Manson, pointed a Colt .45-caliber handgun at Ford. As Fromme pulled the trigger, a Secret Service agent grabbed the gun and managed to insert the webbing of his thumb under the hammer, preventing the gun from firing. It was later found that, although the gun was loaded with four bullets, it was an automatic pistol and the slide had not been pulled to place a bullet in the firing chamber, making it impossible for the gun to fire. Fromme was taken into custody; she was later convicted of attempted assassination of the President and was sentenced to life in prison.
Seventeen days later, another woman, Sara Jane Moore, also tried to kill Ford while he was visiting San Francisco, but her attempt was thwarted when former marine Oliver Sipple deflected her shot. One person was injured when Moore fired, and she was later sentenced to life in prison. [I suppose these two were conservative Republicans, eh? If these two left-wing nuts were willing to gun down Ford, how must most liberal Donks really have felt toward Gerald Ford. Not even Bush has had two assassination attempts against him and we see how much he is hated by liberal kooks today.]
I suppose it would be more accurate to say that DemDonks in general deeply loathed Gerald Ford as a bumbling idiot though in public most Donks kept up the pretense of actually admiring Ford. All this lavish praise by the Donks now that Mr. Ford has passed on is a complete and utter sham. If Ford had been an ardent supporter of the GWOT and the war in Iraq like Joe Lieberman has been, liberals would be far more restrained in their pretended flattery and praise. Look at how much Mr. Lieberman is loathed and ostracized by the petty partisans on the American left even today! And add to the fact that Gerald Ford had the unmitigated gall to unilaterally pardon a “despicable, lying anti-communist crusader” like Nixon.
Mr. Ford was able to largely rehabilitate his image among the liberal Beltway crowd and the lamestream media by later criticizing the agenda of conservative administrations and lately opposing the Iraq War.
50 Darthmeister // Jan 3, 2007 at 6:47 pm
And lest someone doesn’t think Sara Jane Moore was an umitigated kook embroiled in the crank left-wing conspiracy theories of that day, here are some of her statements:
“I do regret I didn’t succeed, and allow the winds of change to start. I wish I had killed him. I did it to create chaos.”
“The government had declared war on the left. Nixon’s appointment of Ford as vice president and his resignation making Ford president seemed to be a continuing assault on America.”
And where have we heard this crapolla about Republicans’ “continuing assault on America”? It’s right out of the liberal playbook only there doesn’t appear to be any lefty today with the gumption of Sara Jane Moore … well, the left does talk it up (and we’ve documented it here) about Bush needing to be “offed” for the good of the country.
With all this talk today about “connecting-the-dots”, let’s start connecting-the-dots between nutcases like Sara Jane Moore, the modern liberals movement that uses the same rhetoric and Islamofascists … all of whom despise Republican administrations and American conservatives.
At least its something to think about since the left today invariably describe conservatives as “fascists” and Bush is “Hitler” … I’m simply returning the favor but WITH HISTORICAL FACTS.
51 everthink // Jan 3, 2007 at 7:15 pm
tgtbtu,
Thanks for answering me. Most here agree with you in thinking I am a “misguided one”.
I try to believe most do the best they can, with the Light they are given; most, but not all.
ET
52 everthink // Jan 3, 2007 at 7:20 pm
“I think topnotch has a point. And they were illegal space aliens to boot!” Comment by Darthmeister — January 3, 2007 @ 6:07 pm
Henry, I bet you and ol’ topknot are both receiving signals from the spear point of your Kaiser Helmets!
53 Darthmeister // Jan 3, 2007 at 7:27 pm
Beats receiving instructions from the mothership vis a vis your tinfoil hat. Tell me you’re not a Raelian.
54 everthink // Jan 3, 2007 at 8:02 pm
“At least its something to think about since the left today invariably describe conservatives as “fascists†and Bush is “Hitler†… I’m simply returning the favor but WITH HISTORICAL FACTS.” Comment by Darthmeister — January 3, 2007 @ 6:47 pm
Well, at least, it looks like I was successful in teaching you right from left, politically speaking, of course.
But, Henry you are the only one I’ve seen here calling Bush, Hitler. Personally, I can see a big difference. Dumbyah does not seem to have a plan for anything; or if he does, it does not work. He certainly cannot speak as well as Hitler spoke. Moreover, he does not have a Charlie Chaplin mustache. Other than that, I can see your concern about what some might say.
ET
55 Pros and Cons » Saban? No, Saddaam. Postlude - the afflatus! // Jan 3, 2007 at 9:44 pm
[...] Scott Ott has an excellent take on certain recent events that jerk with finality. In fact, he has three good takes. [...]
56 Fred Sinclair // Jan 4, 2007 at 12:24 am
TOO GOOD TO IGNORE - ANN’S ON THE MONEY
Ann Coulter
The Democratic Party: A Vast Sleeper Cell
by Ann Coulter
Posted Jan 03, 2007
Fortunately for liberals, the Iraqis executed Saddam Hussein the exact same week that former President Ford died, so it didn’t seem strange that Nancy Pelosi’s flag was at half-staff. Also, Saddam’s death made it less of a snub when Harry Reid skipped Ford’s funeral.
The passing of Gerald Ford should remind Americans that Democrats are always lying in wait, ready to force a humiliating defeat on America.
More troops, fewer troops, different troops, “redeployment”—all the Democrats’ peculiar little talking points are just a way of sounding busy. Who are they kidding? Democrats want to cut and run as fast as possible from Iraq, betraying the Iraqis who supported us and rewarding our enemies—exactly as they did to the South Vietnamese under Ford.
Liberals spent the Vietnam War rooting for the enemy and clamoring for America’s defeat, a tradition they have brought back for the Iraq war.
They insisted on calling the Soviet-backed Vietcong “the National Liberation Front of Vietnam,” just as they call Islamic fascists killing Americans in Iraq “insurgents.” Ho Chi Minh was hailed as a “Jeffersonian Democrat,” just as Michael Moore compares the Islamic fascists in Iraq to the Minute Men.
During the Vietnam War, New York Times scion Arthur “Pinch” Sulzberger told his father that if an American soldier ran into a North Vietnamese soldier, he would prefer for the American to get shot. “It’s the other guy’s country,” he explained.
Now, as publisher of the Times, Pinch does all he can to help the enemy currently shooting at American soldiers.
Heirborn Ranger
57 tgtbtu // Jan 4, 2007 at 7:18 am
The fact is, gwb is unable-and never was able- to even remotly comprehend the concequences of invading iraq-if enything else at all, for that matter.
We are going down and this is not a doomsday thinking- may be not tomorrow but the damage he has done to USA will take decades to undo and we will be lucky if we’ll pull this one.
As a traveler, I can tell you- I have NEVER experienced such a hatred for US anywhere I go in the world- this is a very bad thing for us all.
58 tgtbtu // Jan 4, 2007 at 7:21 am
The fact is, gwb is unable-and was never able- to even remotly comprehend the damage he has done to US by invading iraq. As a traveler, I can tell you, I have NEVER experienced such level of hatred towards US in the world; And this is a very bad for us- will take decades to undo, if we are lucky.
59 Fred Sinclair // Jan 4, 2007 at 8:29 am
“REMOTLY”??
I doubt that Georgr W. Bush is trying to win a popularity contest with the world. To be “hated” by:
North Korea
North Viet Nam
France
Cuba
Iran
Several Islamic countries (who don’t hate us, they just wany to kill anybody thay isn’t them! and we’re in their way.) is a high level cpmpliment.
And if we’re so hated, how come so many millions of illegal aliens are risking so much to flee their country and sneak into America.
And those countries that hate us, there is pure envy in it’s higest form. The fact that these countries envy and hate us so, there’s no higher compliment they could pay us.
I’m happy and proud that George W. Bush has done such an astonishingly wonderful job as President. If he could run for re-election I, and millions of other AMERICANS would vote for him in a heartbeat.
Actually, it’s losers like yourself traveling about bad mouthing your president that give ihe image in some minds, the picture of the Ugly American.
tgtbtu - Why don’t you take your hate America Communism back to your Commie Masters and report that all is well with America and our President.
Then go crawl back into your spidey hole. And quit trying to impersonate some of our beloved Trolls, you’re not very good. Actually to be totally honest; you’re silly.
Heirborn Ranger
60 Rock Slatestone // Jan 4, 2007 at 8:36 am
Great Post Scott
61 tgtbtu // Jan 4, 2007 at 9:42 am
Ranger- i wish you luck. They don’t say for nothing that the most stupid are the happiest ones-.
62 kajun // Jan 4, 2007 at 12:25 pm
#37
Klan members were All Democrats!
63 Darthmeister // Jan 4, 2007 at 5:21 pm
Nice try at obfuscation, neverthink.
Bush = Hitler: documenting the left’s historical insanity of latehere,
here,
here,
here at the Washington Times concerning ads,
here at “TruthOut”,
here at WorldCan’tWait,
here at Bush Hitler,
here moonbat teacher compares Bush and Hitler,
with 2,160,000 other Google hits on “Bush is Hitler”.
Bush = Hitler is a broad spectrum liberal phenomenon in which a vast number of liberals and DemDonks are too dishonest to admit that they buy into the analogy since it has already been established only partisan kooks believe in the analogy.
Come on, neverthink, at least these nutbags are being honest about how they really feel. Admit it, deep down inside you really do believe President Bush is the modern equivalent to Hitler. I’d respect you more if you simply admit it. Nobody can be as consistently critical of Bush unless they absolutely loathe and hate a person the way you have on this site. You can call it by any other name but your own posting record testifies to your hate-filled obsession with President Bush.
64 everthink // Jan 4, 2007 at 11:03 pm
Darthmeister,
Please allow me to address the last part of you statement first.
It is true. I loathe Dumbyah! I wonder why you would even have to ask that question, I never meant to conceal that fact in any way.
I said: “But, Henry you are the only one I’ve seen here calling Bush, Hitler. Personally, I can see a big difference. Dumbyah does not seem to have a plan for anything; or if he does, it does not work. He certainly cannot speak as well as Hitler spoke. Moreover, he does not have a Charlie Chaplin mustache. Other than that, I can see your concern about what some might say.”
Though they are both evill; George W. Bush is not yet in a class with Adolph Hitler.
Adolph Hitler’s struggle is recorded in his book “Mein Kamf”. That book offers some, however slight, explanation of how evil found a refuge.
Is George W. Bush’s struggle recorded somewhere? Did Dumbyah ever personally struggle to overcome anything except maybe Cocaine and Booze? Did he ever sacrifice, or even risk anything in his own right? Or, is he simply the spoiled child of American aristocracy who understands only self-gratification. I believe it was his ego alone that took us to war in Iraq; and I believe it is his ego that keeps us from finding a political solution.
I believe he gained power by deceiving the very Elect of God. He was able to do that because today’s sheep do not know their Sheppard’s Voice, and are easily led astray by false prophets.
ET
65 everthink // Jan 4, 2007 at 11:06 pm
Hank,
Stop with the here, here, and here stuff, will you? You’ve yet to discover any gold!
66 Darthmeister // Jan 5, 2007 at 8:42 am
That’s ADOLF Hitler, neverthink. If it was anyone else I’d let it go but since you think yourself as some great expert on the matter …
I believe he gained power by deceiving the very Elect of God. He was able to do that because today’s sheep do not know their Sheppard’s Voice, and are easily led astray by false prophets.
And that’s precisely what the liberal humanists have done with nitwit “evangelicals” the last forty to fifty years - that being your side of the aisle. The shoe is on the other foot, neverthink, and you’ve blinded yourself to this reality. Once again the tired “Bush lied” meme spews from your keyboard despite the fact we’ve already discredited those supposed “lies” about yellowcake and WMD.
Now Bill Clinton was and is a good liar, obviously you’ve fell and continue to fall for his total BS, but Bush is a terrible liar. You see, you’ve preached on the one hand Bush is a spoilt brat bumbling liar who can’t even talk straight, yet somehow he is able to slickly spew lies that deceive even the elect. Either this fratboy is an evil genius or just plain lucky.
I’m Caucasian, and an Evangelical Christian.
BTW, speaking of lies, you’ve been spinning a few doozies yourself. There is no way you can possibly be an “Evangelical Christian” and believe the things you do about social issues and biblical principles. You’ve so butchered Holy Writ and misapplied biblical principles. I can go right down the list but the biggest dead giveaway is your gobbly-gook position on abortion. You’re spew about being “pro-choice but anti-abortion” is a lie from the pits of Hell. When I’ve demonstrated that you aren’t really “pro-choice” because you oppose private investment SS accounts, your oppose school vouchers based on parental choice, you oppose an American citizen’s unfettered right to choose ANY smallarm of their choice - that leaves you with being pro-abortion. Your sophistry has betrayed you. Despite your denials you literally advocate the murder of the most innocent of humanity, the unborn child, on the basis of a “choice” made by an emotionally overwrought woman who herself is steeped in the lies of the liberal culture.
Your unwillingness to unequivocally condemn this wicked and evil practice of depraved humanity makes you part of the problem. Yet you continue to deny your own participation in the pro-abortion agenda. THERE IS NO WAY A PERSON BORN OF GOD can be pro-abortion in any way shape or form. You willingly deceive yourself on this very clear, watershed issue.
BTW, as an “evangelical” and without Googling, do you know what the hypostatic union of Christ is? Do you know what “theophanies” are? Do you believe God literally created Adam and Eve from the dust of the earth? Do you believe in the triunity of the godhead, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, three persons in one? Do you believe Christ commanded his followers and not Caesar to feed the poor? Do you believe Christ commanded his followers to arm themselves? Do you believe Jesus Christ was literally God-in-the-flesh and that He literally died and literally rose again three nights later? Do you believe in the literal miracles of Christ? Do you believe Jesus will literally return a second time to reign over humanity with the perfect law of God (iron scepter)? Is Jesus the King of your heart or do you sit on that throne yourself?
67 Darthmeister // Jan 5, 2007 at 8:57 am
BTW, there’s a big difference between believing in a concept of an Almighty God and believing in Almighty God. I don’t mind you claiming some weird sectarian belief in God, that is your right, but please don’t lie about being an “evangelical Christian”. You are no more an Evangelical than you are a traditional Catholic given your stand on issues. You’re more a Unitarian humanist than anything else.
Just an honest appraisal on my part. I await your hate-filled rant that is sure to follow.
68 tgtbtu // Jan 5, 2007 at 9:09 am
Speaking of Hitler, I’d personally take him over gwb any time. He was a man of conviction, a true patriot of his country and a VERY gifted person. He lost his battle but have he lost the War? I have doubts on this one.
Regardless, as far as abortion, why stop there?
Here is a passage from work of Savitri Davi, which is dedicated to the difference between “Man-centered creeds and “Life-centered creeds”.
Posted for education for the seeking, of course:
“I cannot help here recalling the answer of a French medical student, a member of the “Christian Federation of Students,” whom I had asked, twenty-five years ago, how he could reconcile his religious aspirations with his support of vivisection. “What conflict can there be between the two?” said he. “Christ did not die for guinea pigs and dogs.” I do not know what Christ would actually have said to that. The fact remains that, from the point of view of historical Christianity, the boy was right. And his answer is enough to disgust one forever with all man-centered creeds. ”
http://library.flawlesslogic.com/imp_man.htm
69 Darthmeister // Jan 5, 2007 at 9:52 am
tgtbtu - You comments are absolutely irrelevant to this discussion. Your obscurantism and non sequitors give rise to only more smoke instead of light. Try being relevant by engaging in honest debate instead of promoting even more controversial and pithy observations based on the flawed “wisdom” of fallible man. Changing the subject from abortion to vivisection demonstrates you aren’t serious about truly understanding either in their proper social context.
The position paper of the Alliance of Confessing Evangelicals.
The “inerrancy of Scripture” and the application of Biblical moral truth to social issues? You’ve mocked these positions to which we evangelicals hold dear, neverthink. And evangelicalism is conservative.
From Wikipedia’s entry for Evangelicalism:
The word “evangelicalism” usually refers to religious practices and traditions which are found in conservative, almost always Protestant Christianity. Evangelicalism is typified by an emphasis on evangelism, a personal experience of conversion, biblically oriented faith and a belief in the relevance of Christian faith to cultural issues.
70 tgtbtu // Jan 5, 2007 at 10:21 am
“Your comments are irrelevant to this discussion”
Well, that’s what you think.
I have already said that I do not believe in Monotheism- and that means Christianity, Islam and Judaism- are true religions.
In my opinion, they are more designed to manipulate a Man; As far as christianity (I was raised christian) I think we do not know true christ and even one promoted to us by official Church we do not follow.
Let me ask you, do you picture Christ as a shareholder of Google? Or a bank which lends money?
If yes, you have never read with enough attention even the abridge version of gospels that we know as Bible.
You can be a shareholder, of course, but do not call yourself Christian then.
Do you remember who Christ threw out of the Temple?
All things are relevant; They may be irrelevant to your goals- but sorry on this one, I do not care.
One example- When Gandhi was brought to British Court and asked about his “profession”, his answer was-”Resister”.
Whatever you think is unjust, one must resist- but then you need to know what is unjust. A tough one…
71 Darthmeister // Jan 5, 2007 at 11:06 am
Just like arrogant twits to try and remake God over into their own flawed image. You can’t escape that easily. Physician, heal thyself.
I once was in a place like yours, trapped in the echo chamber of the blind leading the blind. I pity you in your humanist hubris. There will only be the weeping and gnashing of teeth for such worldly know-it-alls.
As to “resister”, the most noble cause is to resist the flawed humanism that has afflicted humanity down through the ages which blinds men and women to their own nakedness and spiritual poverty. God won’t be mocked and Jesus is your only hope. You cannot escape, you too will fall to Death.
Who Jesus threw out of the temples were Jewish pretenders to the faith. They were worldly men given to the commandments of men and not God. They were men who subverted the moral law of God and His ordinances and exchanged them for the traditions and ordinances of man. Sounds more like the modern, “sophisticated” religion of liberal humanism than simple but honest conservatives trying to follow Bible principles in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation that liberals/progressives represent.
Nietzsche: God is dead.
God: Nietzsche is dead.
BTW, you’re merely another clone of Bravo39. Talk about an echo chamber of vanity.
72 everthink // Jan 5, 2007 at 11:09 am
Henry, you ask:
“Do you know what the hypostatic union of Christ is?” No, I do not know.
“Do you know what “theophanies†are?” No, I do not know.
But then, I did not know there was going to be a test: I could have studied, or something.
How much will this failure affect my final grade?
Is knowledge of these words required to inherit the Kingdom of Heaven?
I don’t believe you really understand; many will miss the mark by about 18 inches, the distance from their head to their heart.
Will this suffice?
“For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.†2 Timothy 1:12
Henry, who do you think made you my Inquisitor? May The Lord rebuke you.
73 tgtbtu // Jan 5, 2007 at 11:36 am
“You will fall to death”
Well, the thing is, I do not believe in “Death” as you, monotheists, do.
I believe we are immortal and only our physical cloth-body- is mortal.
That is why I am not afraid of ‘Death” and you do.
74 tgtbtu // Jan 5, 2007 at 11:40 am
You “are” afraid, of course, my bad.
75 everthink // Jan 5, 2007 at 12:02 pm
tgtbtu,
Are you a psychiatrist? If you are, please do not “demonstrate†Henry too widely.
Bad as he may seem now, he is actually improving! It’s just a bad week for him (you know why).
This guy on a psych ward says to his doctor, “I’m Napoleon!†The doctor asked what made him think so. They patient answered loudly “God told meâ€. Then, from the back of the room, “The Kaiser†shouted, “I did not!â€
ET
76 everthink // Jan 5, 2007 at 12:11 pm
Change “they patient” to “the patient”, please.
77 Darthmeister // Jan 5, 2007 at 2:22 pm
neverthink,
It is not my job to give tests, rather it is my job to ask questions. You claimed to be an “Evangelical Christian”. Whether you think yourself an “evangelical Christian” or an “Evangelical Christian”, from your comments I believe your are either deceived, ignorant or lying. Personally I don’t really care which it is.
Did you read the link to the Evangelical position statement? If you find yourself disagreeing with a number of those positions, there is no way you’re an “Evangelical”.
I am not saying you’re not a Christian, though given your worldview it may be easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle. There will be no tests other than who do YOU say Jesus is and have you allowed Him to become your personal Savior to the exclusion of all other philosophers, teachers, “wisemen”, and wiseguys. In you eyes is Jesus fully God and fully Man and has He saved your from your sins?
The “hypostatic union of Christ” is a term which encapsulates the biblical principles relating to the full humanity and full deity of Jesus Christ - fully man and fully God. It’s just a term of convenience, but it describes a very real biblical truth just as does the term “trinity”.
“Theophany” literally means “God appearances”. The modern term is usually used with respect to the appearances of the pre-incarnate Son of God in the Old Testament. More simply, it’s is Christ’s preincarnate appearances in the Old Testament. One of the three visitors to Lot before the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah is considered a theophany.
Since God in His full glory cannot be apprehended by mere mortal man without his utter destruction, then obviously when God “appears” to man He is doing so in the person of the Son who, according to the New Testament, “has explained (or demonstrated) God”. Jesus said, “He who has seen me has seen the Father.” An astounding and very important statement which has its roots in a basic biblical understanding of theophanies and incarnation. Jesus was claiming to have “all the fullness of Deity in bodily form”. A claim never made by mere mortals like Buddha, Gandhi, Mohammed, Moses, or Nancy Pelosi (that I know of).
Also see Genesis 17:1, Genesis 18:1, Exodus 24:9-11, Judges 6:11-14, Numbers 12:6-8, Acts 7:2 for more examples of theophanies.
78 Darthmeister // Jan 5, 2007 at 2:31 pm
tgtbtu, you flatter yourself. Of course you fear death, that’s why you keep trying to reassure yourself you don’t. Your body is eternal, we both agree on that, and it will spend an eternity either with the Creator God or banished forever from the presence of the Creator God because you rejected the Savior Jesus Who is the only means to cleanse you of the sin which separates you from the God of the cosmos. Deny it all you want but a day is coming when you will know the truth I speak.
I bet if you were looking down the muzzle of a .45 Auto one could detect a very real fear of death in your eyes. More so when the Islamofascist’s sword is to your neck. Your self-serving rhetoric and the puffing of your chest impresses no one here.
Behold, today is the day of salvation. You better get right with the God Who has made your salvation possible, son.
79 tgtbtu // Jan 5, 2007 at 2:57 pm
Of course I”fear” Death, I am not Khrishna. We all do but for different reasons.
For me “death” would be the departure from what I love-family, most of all. That would bring sorrow.
I just want to repeat that I believe that our souls are ETERNAL, regardles of affiliation with a particular cult.
The difference, though, is in what we believe would happen after.
I cannot believe you call yourself “Christians” while engaging in non-stop killing on fellow humans for political and selfish gains, all sorts of travesties that Jesus has condemned (of course, you find all sorts of excuses for that), live a life totally devoted to satisfaction of your materialistic cravings (at expence of others-and yourself and godly souls).
You are not Christians. At least, I refuse to accept that you are following Christ teaching. You are not- far from that, whatever excuse you come with.
You are being brainwashed. But this is your problem.
80 everthink // Jan 5, 2007 at 4:37 pm
Darthmeister,
“It is not my job to give tests, rather it is my job to ask questions.”
YOUR JOB?
That’s why I asked: “Henry, who do you think made you my Inquisitor (as in asker of questions)?”
Help me out here will you, smart guy? Give me the chapter, and verse where I can find the word “hypostatic”, just that Henry, chapter and verse, and nothing more.
I think it is unbecoming for even a nominal Christian to do what you insist on doing. How does anyone prove faith to another, and why would they try?
I think tgtbtu understands The Gospel of Jesus Christ more fully than do you. At least, I don’t hear self-righteous hypocrisy in his comments.
You have more cause than most to be humble, but so long as you can dump a thousand words on a thread you can try to hide it from others, and pretend that in your heart, you do not know it is true.
I can’t help but wonder if you folks wear you guns to church, or at least a knife as, I think, you say Jesus commanded? It’s ok if you don’t answer.
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