(2006-10-21) — House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-CA, and Rep. John Murtha, D-PA, today issued a joint statement calling on terrorist groups and armed militias to pull out of Iraq, or at least begin a “phased redeployment.” They also called for sanctions against any nation that harbors or funds those terrorists.
Until this week, the Democrat leaders had been calling on the U.S. to retreat from Iraq, but today Rep. Pelosi said, “it suddenly occured to us that the terrorists and so-called insurgents are the aggressors.”
“We realized that if the U.S. pulls out,” she said, “the shooting, bombing and beheading continues. But if the terrorists leave, or if their funding dries up, then the fighting stops and we can build a lot more schools, clinics, water purification systems and electrical generation plants.”
Standing with the California lawmaker at a news conference, Rep. Murtha, a former Marine, unveiled what he called “our new Democrat vision for Iraq to become a country that can defend, sustain and govern itself, a country which will serve as an ally in this war on terror.”
“We got to thinking, Nancy and me, that the old Democrat vision of a U.S. pullout would have created a safe haven and base of operations for al Qaeda to launch its global jihad,” said Rep. Murtha. “and it would have sent a message to those seeking freedom in the Arab world that we think they don’t deserve to be free or can’t govern themselves democratically.”
Asked whether this new position wouldn’t just play into the hands of Republicans three weeks before a national election, a clearly agitated Rep. Pelosi said, “We’re talking about a global conflict that threatens our civilization, and you’re asking about politics?”
“We’re Americans,” she added, “and our sons and daughters are dying to bring freedom to Iraq and that whole region of the world. Any nation or group that buys bullets and bombs to blow up our kids is, by definition, our sworn enemy. You can’t compromise or negotiate with people like that. We must defeat them.”
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1 Reverend Martin Luth // Oct 21, 2006 at 3:48 am
Asked whether this new position wouldn’t just play into the hands of Republicans three weeks before a national election, a clearly agitated Rep. Pelosi said, “We’re talking about a global conflict that threatens our civilization, and you’re asking about politics?â€
Ahhhh have a dream… a dream that one day our public servants will not judge by their party affiliation, but by the content of their character. Yes America, ah have a dream…
2 Shelly // Oct 21, 2006 at 5:14 am
Talk about your satire!
RE: 7 ~ JL3, just when you think they can't sink any lower, you find a new definition for bottom don't you?
3 Maggie // Oct 21, 2006 at 5:53 am
Good Morning everybody,
Darth re #16….I really hate to disagree with you but…..liberals don't have to "play" dumb.
Ms Right Wing,
Never fear,there is still one more powerful than Superman.In fact,He is All Powerful.
4 JamesonLewis3rd // Oct 21, 2006 at 5:55 am
God Bless America!
5 JamesonLewis3rd // Oct 21, 2006 at 6:01 am
Nice.
I like Murtha’s (implied) “subconscious” quote of President Bush’s strategy “…..for Iraq to become a country that can defend, sustain and govern itself, a country which will serve as an ally in this war on terror.”
6 Fred Sinclair // Oct 21, 2006 at 6:04 am
Scott : This is really great today, but I can’t help but ask.- Have you been smoking any of that funny stuff or did you just have a nice dream? Of course this could become reality if they both became Christians, but then their buddies would make Martyrs out of them by throwing both of them under the bus. I still pray for them though.
Fred Sinclair, Heirborn Ranger
7 SeaDog // Oct 21, 2006 at 6:06 am
Wow! For a moment there I thought I’d awakened into a world headed back toward common sense - then I realized that Scott had just pulled a fast one on me. It was the names; Pelosi & Murtha that gave it away. To use their names and the word idiot in the same sentence is an insult to all the idiots in the world.
8 Bill's Bites // Oct 21, 2006 at 6:08 am
Pelosi, Murtha Call on Terrorists to Pull Out of Iraq
Pelosi, Murtha Call on Terrorists to Pull Out of Iraq (2006-10-21) — House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-CA, and Rep. John Murtha, D-PA, today issued a joint statement calling on terrorist groups and armed militias to pull out of Iraq,
9 camojack // Oct 21, 2006 at 6:15 am
Sounds familiar, somehow…
10 JamesonLewis3rd // Oct 21, 2006 at 6:23 am
It really wouldn’t surprise me if the schizophrenic Democrat party did begin to appropriate (as their own)the rhetoric of President Bush.
The NIE leak is morphing into a Nixonian, albeit Democrat, “dirty trick” and Kennedy has been outed as a treasonous conspirator.
My optimism toward the outcome of the elections has been given a boost.
11 gafisher // Oct 21, 2006 at 6:41 am
There was a time when the Democrat Party actually spoke like that. Now the landscape has shifted so radically that only what’s called “the right wing” of the Republican Party dares make such claims, and the “middle of the road,” at least among our politicians, is much more interested in appeasement than in freedom.
Still, this WOULD be a nice story, right up there next to the one about flying pigs and ice skaters on the Styx . . .
12 Big Java // Oct 21, 2006 at 7:23 am
“We got to thinking…” yes, if only.
13 Scott Ott // Oct 21, 2006 at 7:56 am
Pelosi, Murtha Call on Terrorists to Pull Out of Iraq
by Scott Ott(2006-10-21) — House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-CA, and Rep. John Murtha, D-PA, today issued a joint statement calling on terrorist groups and armed militias to pull out of Iraq, or at least begin a “phased redeployment.†They al…
14 egospeak // Oct 21, 2006 at 7:57 am
I knew it had to be a parody when Pelosi/Murtha didn’t mention a whole lot of social programs after talking about building schools, clinics, water purification systems and electrical generation plants. Almost fooled me though… no, not really.
Really, really good one Scott. You’ve been on fire this week! Great stuff!!
15 pangia // Oct 21, 2006 at 8:29 am
It’s not nice you do things like this to people first thing in the morning. I read the headline and thought “Wow… holy #@&%”. Then I had my coffee and read the rest of the page [hehe]. Good stuff, we’re adding Scrapple Face to our links at Sid in the City.
16 egospeak // Oct 21, 2006 at 8:40 am
C.A.T.
You are too kind. I think we'd all probably agree that Darthmeister is #1, but IMHO you rank right up there with JL3, Godfrey, OLA, Beerme, Maggie, MsRWL, The Great Santini, the Heirborn Ranger and others too numerous to mention. Does it sounds like I'm giving a speech at an awards ceremony? (I'd also like to thank God and everyone at the Academy who voted for me.)
Great post, speaking of which, the passage from Federalist #45, reminds me of a quote from Eldridge Cleaver or possibly Dick Gregory, I can't remember which, that went, "The only problem with constitutional government in America is that it hasn't been tried." If Madison were alive today, he'd be really really old, (really bad joke) and dumbstruck that we actually have people in government and out who believe that the constitution that we are living under today bears any resemblance to the the one he had such a large hand in writing.
It reminds me of a book that has been adapted and turned into a movie and in the end the only thing the two have in common is the title.
17 Darthmeister // Oct 21, 2006 at 8:49 am
Wait, I thought Pelosi and Murtha were part of the Sunni insurgency.
Hey, has anyone noticed how the Hollyweird crowd has kept their big traps shut? At least Howeird Dean got one thing right, telling Babs and the rest of the Hollyweird moonbats to shut their pieholes.
Also, I’ve noticed in our letters to the editor column that the local kool-aid crowd have quit claiming Bush equals Hitler and that he should be impeached. I guess they finally figured out real Americans don’t want to hear that kind of swill and it would only hurt their election chances. Of course if the DemDonks do luck into the control of the U.S. House, despite Pelosi’s assurances there won’t be any impeachment on her watch Henry Waxman’s first order of business will be setting in motion impeachment articles thus further dividing America. It always amuses me how the lying Donks are always claiming its Republicans who divide America when it really is them.
18 Darthmeister // Oct 21, 2006 at 9:22 am
The Pajamas Media busts Professor Gilbert Burnham big-time as he tries to defend the bogus John Hopkins survey of Iraqi civilian deaths.
It’s rather amusing watching him play dumb when asked some very pointed questions about how the sheer number of casualties claimed don’t match up with any previous war time experience. This is so typical of liberals with axes to grind, they throw stuff out there and when challenged and revealed for the charlatans they really are, they stubbornly stick to their ridiculous claims even when the flaws in their methodology are being pointed out to them.
Just like the black knight, in Monty Python’s In Search of the Holy Grail, claiming he is only experiencing “flesh wounds” when his arms, legs and eventually his head are being chopped off.
19 Ms RightWing, Ink // Oct 21, 2006 at 9:39 am
In the old Superman comics I read as a child, I recall people of like character living in another universe that did everything opposite of said people in Metropolis.
Pelosi and Murtha must have been killed and the alter universe has taken over. Oh my, where oh where is Superman?
Faster than a speeding bullet. More powerful than a locomotive. Able to leap tall buildings in a single bound. Look! Up in the sky. It’s a bird. It’s a plane. It’s Superman! Yes, it’s Superman - strange visitor from another planet who came to Earth with powers and abilities far beyond those of mortal men. Superman - who can change the course of mighty rivers, bend steel in his bare hands, and who disguised as Clark Kent, mild-mannered reporter for a great metropolitan newspaper, fights a never ending battle for Truth, Justice, and the American Way.
20 Libby Gone // Oct 21, 2006 at 9:46 am
Miss America get some plastic surgery on her morality?
Mr. Murtha have the steel plate replaced with Corningware?
For goodness sake man the Dems haven’t recognized the TRUE enemy since that little spat back in ’40’s.
21 conserve-a-tip // Oct 21, 2006 at 10:03 am
Good beautiful Saturday morning all. The sun is shining and there is a nip in the air. I just love it.
Libby Gone - I have to take exception to your comment on Miss America..I know Miss America personally and we finally have one without the plastic surgery and with full Oklahoma family values…now if you want to use Miss USA…that’s a different story!
Scott - good one, but I quit believing fairy tales when I was aboouutt 5!
22 CalGirl // Oct 21, 2006 at 10:03 am
This seems pretty darn obvious to me.
Nancy Pelosi kind of reminds me of two other elected officials here in the Golden State: Jerry Brown and Willie Brown (no relation to each other, obviously). Jerry was, of course, our governor for two disasterous terms, and when he went off to be elected Mayor of Oakland, my thought was “at least he can only screw up one city rather than the whole darn state.” Willie was the Speaker, and he went from there to be Mayor of San Francisco. Same thought applies.
With Pelosi my sentiments are similar…if the dems take over the house in November, she’ll be unleashed in even greater fury that we are subjected to now, which will not be good for this great country.
Yikes. Reason right there to vote GOP on November 7.
23 Maggie // Oct 21, 2006 at 10:15 am
CalGirl…..good to see your post.
“Nancy Peeloosly” (prettyold’s name for her) has been in seclusion lately and Jane Harmon has been in the forefront.Do you think there is a possibility Harmon is being groomed for SOH?
Come visit more often.Your comments from California are always enlightening.
24 CalGirl // Oct 21, 2006 at 10:42 am
Maggie, thanks, and my answer to your question is an unqualified YES. She’s obviously being groomed for something, and that’s the obvious place to start. But her stupid comments this week are beyond the pale, imo. She DEMANDS the dem staffer be reinstated and allowed access to classified information? Say WHAT?
I come by and read every day, but don’t always have time to post. My posting at the various sites around the web have drastically fallen off. Do you know they expect me to go to work EVERY DAY?
The nerve of some people!
25 Loki, E.NC.Z.B-K // Oct 21, 2006 at 11:02 am
Missing out on the normal daily “Kool-aid crowd” letters to the editor?
Here in the Peoples Republic of Vermont, they are alive and well, and all over the editorial pages.
And they wonder why I don’t buy the paper anymore.
26 Libby Gone // Oct 21, 2006 at 11:20 am
C.A.T.
My Apologies. I was referring to Ms. Pelosi as Rush Limbaugh does. Believe me I am NO FAN of Plastic Surgery. Sorry for any offense, besides I’m single now maybe I can hook up with a nice girl like Miss Oklahoma……yea right.
27 Libby Gone // Oct 21, 2006 at 11:22 am
Honestley I have to say I have hooked up with a VERY NICE LADY whom has been very sweet to me.
http://islandsense.blogspot.com/
Happy sweetest day to all you LADIES out there.
28 conserve-a-tip // Oct 21, 2006 at 11:33 am
Libby Gone - no offense taken. Just giving you a hard time. I knew what you were talking about since I am an El Rushbo fan.
I am so sorry to tell you that she is engaged and moving to NC when she gets married.
29 Libby Gone // Oct 21, 2006 at 11:33 am
A Special Sweetest day wish to Miss Islandgirl. 143.
dash dash.
-Libby
30 sojourner // Oct 21, 2006 at 11:39 am
Scott, You’ve been hitting home runs these last few days. It’s great that the way that you reframe the questions, the answers become obvious. I’m hoping that more people pass along your stuff, and that your humor helps change our sorry state of affairs.
31 Ms RightWing, Ink // Oct 21, 2006 at 12:04 pm
Maggie
re:19 How true, but in this world of the strange and unsuspected we need a mortal with powers only kriptonite could stop. Mr T is no longer available and Tiny Tim is dead-so what is a human to do?
“Scott - good one, but I quit believing fairy tales when I was about 5!
Comment by conserve-a-tip”
As a professional storyteller I resent that statement
Never quit believing. As Jiminy Cricket once said:
Ser du stjärnan i det blå, er, excuse me that was in Swedish,
When you wish upon a star
Makes no difference who you are
Anything your heart desires will come to you.
jeesh, Island Girl ain’t got me on her fav-o-rite bloggers list. Dagnabit anyhow.
32 sojourner // Oct 21, 2006 at 12:05 pm
Scott,
You’ve been hitting homeruns for days now. I’m so glad that you’ve got a gift for reframing events so that the answers are humorous and obvious to all but the most committed of dum-o-crats. Write on!
33 RedPepper // Oct 21, 2006 at 12:06 pm
But, Nancy! Where will they redeploy to? And What will they do there?
Perhaps you could bring them to San Francisco, where they could help to stimulate the American auto industry!
Something like this :
The figures are stark. An average of 112 cars a day have been torched across France so far this year and there have been 15 attacks a day on police and emergency services. Nearly 3,000 police officers have been injured in clashes this year. Officers have been badly injured in four ambushes in the Paris outskirts since September. Some police talk of open war with youths who are bent on more than vandalism.
34 Ms RightWing, Ink // Oct 21, 2006 at 12:12 pm
………But in this real world, we have Republicans killing Republicans. Governor Taft (R-Oh) has destroyed our rust belt state by being a Country Club Repub for many years. He has done nada for the Buckeye state so the new kid on the block, Mr Blackwell has no chance for election, though he is the man who can return Ohio to prosperity. Ted Strickland is so far ahead in the polls that he might as well move in today.
I often wonder what possessed me to come back to this stinkin’ state. Montana, I hear you calling.
35 Fred Sinclair // Oct 21, 2006 at 12:18 pm
Proverbs 29:2, “When the godly are in authority, the people rejoice. But when the wicked are in power, they groan.”
If enough Republicans will stay home and not vote - we may all have the opportunity to groan. One thing is for sure the Islamic terrorists may not be groaning, as they are definitely voting for Democrats in this upcoming election!
Personally I’d prefer to rejoice.
Without wax
Fred Sinclair, Heirborn Ranger
36 Beerme // Oct 21, 2006 at 12:19 pm
Ms RW Ink,
I watched a few minutes of the last debate and Blackwell certainly made sense. Too bad the voters in Uhiah aren’t sensible enough to vote for him. Of course maybe if we could slow down the crack-for-votes program in Cleveland or the number of times Thomas Jefferson and George Washington can vote, perhaps there’s a chance…
37 Beerme // Oct 21, 2006 at 12:21 pm
Fred,
I made that pumpkin cheesecake you sent via email. It is fantastic! It will become a standard at the Beerme household each fall. I did make a few successful changes to the recipe, though.
Now back to the discussion…
38 JamesonLewis3rd // Oct 21, 2006 at 12:44 pm
Pumpkin Cheesecake, eh?
Hmm…..
Um, well, er, uh…..
:::::picturing pumpkins encircling the top edge like they do with strawberries:::::
Doesn’t it get kinda smashed?
39 conserve-a-tip // Oct 21, 2006 at 12:58 pm
Redpepper - San Fransisco is a no-go. They don’t allow military into that town. Remember? They refused to let the naval ship dock? How about New Orleans, where they could stimulate the gangs and thugs to make like a tree and get outta there!
I know. I know. Leave.
40 Ms RightWing, Ink // Oct 21, 2006 at 1:18 pm
Beerme
The only hope is that people are telling pollsters, in anger, that they will vote for a Demo. Only on election day will the truth be known.
Of course, Ken Blackwell is a black man, so will blacks vote for him. Umm, likely not. Will redneck repubs vote for him. Not if the Jerry Springer show holds true.
41 egospeak // Oct 21, 2006 at 1:20 pm
Darthmeister,
Just read the interview with Professor Burnham on Pajamas Media. The most interesting thing to me was the comments, especially the comment by Nick, posted at 1:03 pm 10/20/06. If you haven’t read it, check it out and see if the writing style doesn’t remind you of a certain troll that was plaguing this site recently.
Regards,
42 Beerme // Oct 21, 2006 at 1:24 pm
JL3,
Hahaha! I never thought of that visual!
But the proof is in the tasting and I got up this morning an cut a piece for my wife and me and mmmm-mmm!
I made the crust from Pecan Sandiesâ„¢ cookies!
Oh, and it was my first cheesecake. Actually, it was alot easier than making beer, even pumpkin beer!
43 GnuCarSmell // Oct 21, 2006 at 1:31 pm
If Pelosi and Murtha want to redeploy something, I suggest they take some of that Bush-hatred and redeploy it against America’s enemies. A united commitment to victory is what the enemy fears most. The Democrats’ goal of dividing America is the most effective tool the terrorists have.
Every time an American political leader says “we can’t win”, they are telling the terrorists that they will win. Democrats are giving our enemy a reason to keep on killing. Anything to help the DNC, right?
44 RedPepper // Oct 21, 2006 at 1:39 pm
What ever became of the “count every vote/Republicans suppressing the vote ..” crowd?
If you suspect there are forces eager to suppress Republican turnout, you are right. Rarely has the press echoed Democratic themes as relentlessly as it has in the closing weeks of the 2006 campaign. And the main theme is that Republicans are about to be blown away. The question now is whether this message will persuade Republican voters to stay home on Election Day.
Oh, there they are!
45 JamesonLewis3rd // Oct 21, 2006 at 1:41 pm
This is downright BIZARRE.
46 onlineanalyst // Oct 21, 2006 at 1:54 pm
Somewhat OT (and a continuation of a discussion re the Hamilton-Baker committee’s recommendations on Iraq):
http://powerlineblog.com/archives/015607.php
Rubin is skeptical of the Iranian diplomatic talks and engagement that Baker favors. Rubin cites prior failures of this model.
The commission members, while nominally bipartisan, do come to their conclusions with certain biases that could achieve short-term solutions but which could kick the ME can further down the road…and be the straw that breaks the camel’s back in keeping Iraq’s confidence in the US.
The Michael Yon link within makes a compelling case for having more embedded journalists on the war front in order to counteract the enemies’ more successful PR campaign.
47 camojack // Oct 21, 2006 at 2:15 pm
…it was my first cheesecake. Actually, it was alot easier than making beer, even pumpkin beer!
Comment by Beerme — October 21, 2006 @ 1:24 pm
Mmmm…pumpkin beer! ~( 8(|)
Scott took my eleventeenth spot!!!
48 JamesonLewis3rd // Oct 21, 2006 at 2:15 pm
I heard a little of what Santorum had to say about “tripartheid” in Iraq. I wasn’t able to catch the entire interview but I came away with the impression that it might not be a bad idea as an interim solution-sorta like boxers going to their corners.
I suspect this may be what comes out of the White House, shortly, regarding the sound bites I’m hearing here and there of an imminent “change in tactics,” and considering what Rumsfeld said about the Iraqis getting their act together “sooner rather than later.”
49 Jericho // Oct 21, 2006 at 2:18 pm
http://iraqthemodel.blogspot.com/
The death squeal from Al Qaedi in Iraq: Read the post Me in the New Islamic State.
And now forward - destroy the militias, kill them, send them onto hell where their souls already reside in spirit.
That little militia takeover on the swamp city is already over.
http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2006/10/20/407860-shiite-militia-briefly-seizes-iraqi-city
Notice the photo of Sadr - This guy really needs to put the grey in if he is to ever fulfill his desire to be the Mahdi.
(Side note to Muktr - Grey or not The Madhi dies with the rest of those who reject the saving grace of Christ.)
50 JamesonLewis3rd // Oct 21, 2006 at 3:47 pm
The FBI has been called in to investigate allegations that heterosexuals permeate the membership of the House and Senate.
51 Darthmeister // Oct 21, 2006 at 3:54 pm
#19 Maggie, my bad. You’re right, their utter stupidity comes natural. What they have to play at is making their lies sound plausible.
52 Darthmeister // Oct 21, 2006 at 3:59 pm
The Constitution is the best defense against liberalism that we have. Too bad the Supreme Court often ignores its original intent and the radical left works night and day in hopes of declaring it obsolete through another “constitutional” convention.
53 bystander // Oct 21, 2006 at 5:47 pm
The Constition is not a ‘defense’ against anything. It should be upheld by all ! The trouble is that folks on both sides of the aisle periodically try to subvert it to suit their own selfish ends.
54 Darthmeister // Oct 21, 2006 at 6:00 pm
The question as to who leaked portions of the NIE report as an October surprise is taking some interesting twists and turns. The AmericanThinker has the story here and it appears it may have been a Democrat staffer named Larry Hanauer.
What’s interesting about ol’ Lar is he was a former Clinton appointee to the Department of Defense and was displaced from that slot by the Bush Administration. He was a Kerry contributor and has expressed views critical of the Administration.
Now get this:
Jane Harman, the ranking Democrat on the committee, has protested strongly against the staffer’s suspension. Harman for several years has been a responsible member on the committee. But during the course of this calendar year, she has been making more shrill partisan statements and fewer thoughtful critiques. The most likely reason: pressure from the Democratic left.
Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi is said to be determined to replace her with Alcee Hastings, the former federal judge who was impeached by the House for bribery and convicted and removed from office by the Senate. And Harman faced a challenger from the shrill left in the Democratic primary in her coastal Los Angeles area district… According to the Huffington Post, Maxine Waters went to Harman’s District earlier this year and in an incredible breach of normal comity urged Harman’s constituents to vote for her opponent.
As the worm turns.
55 R.A.M. // Oct 21, 2006 at 6:06 pm
Pinch me!
56 conserve-a-tip // Oct 21, 2006 at 7:00 pm
lol. You guys crack me up. lol. Ms Rightwing, Ink, while Weird Al in drag is a less then pleasant vision, thinking about washing my eyes out in lye is just plain painful! lol You surely do come up with some picturesque descriptions! lol.
RedPepper, lol, I think that the pahamahedeen's mom made him stop playing on the computer and go to bed. lol OK, OK. I'll stop.
57 Maggie // Oct 21, 2006 at 7:24 pm
Ms Righty re#30
There is always “Wierd Al Yankovich” in drag. :>)
58 Maggie // Oct 21, 2006 at 7:57 pm
JL3rd
Also many here on SF have been outed for being practicing “homosapiens’.
59 The Bullwinkle Blog » Blog Archive » Last Laughs (New Edition) // Oct 21, 2006 at 8:15 pm
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60 conserve-a-tip // Oct 21, 2006 at 8:37 pm
James and Maggie, I’m afraid that I had to come out of the cooler the other day because I had a gallon of homogenized. I feel so liberated.
61 JamesonLewis3rd // Oct 21, 2006 at 9:17 pm
RE: #59~~
conserve-a-tip~~
I’m shocked! And you seemed like such a nice person, too!
On another note, there’s something very wrong with this picture (metaphorically speaking [I think]).
62 conserve-a-tip // Oct 21, 2006 at 9:59 pm
Metaphorically speaking, she really meant all of the three letter “news” outlets.
63 conserve-a-tip // Oct 21, 2006 at 10:01 pm
Oh and James, I am sorry that you are shocked. I just thought that I would milk it for all it was worth.
64 Ms RightWing, Ink // Oct 21, 2006 at 10:04 pm
re:55
Thanks Maggie, now I will have to wash my eyes out with lye, or at least my brain for envisioning that. jeesh (or is that lol)
65 RedPepper // Oct 21, 2006 at 10:17 pm
Ms RW: You are advised to eschew the curséd acronym “lol”, lest the pajamahedeen™ issue a fatwah upon you.
66 Darthmeister // Oct 21, 2006 at 11:07 pm
Hee hee. Cards win 7-2! Who would have thunk it. Looks like conventional wisdom is taking a beating.
67 Darthmeister // Oct 21, 2006 at 11:08 pm
Okay, where did it go?
68 Darthmeister // Oct 21, 2006 at 11:12 pm
From PowerLineblog.com.
The Sunday Daily Mail carries a report by Simon Walters based on a leaked account of the BBC’s “impartiality summit.” There’s nothing in the leaked report that I haven’t deduced from listening to any given three minutes of BBC news updates, but it’s shocking to see it frankly acknowledged:
It was the day that a host of BBC executives and star presenters admitted what critics have been telling them for years: the BBC is dominated by trendy, Left-leaning liberals who are biased against Christianity and in favour of multiculturalism.
A leaked account of an ‘impartiality summit’ called by BBC chairman Michael Grade, is certain to lead to a new row about the BBC and its reporting on key issues, especially concerning Muslims and the war on terror.
It reveals that executives would let the Bible be thrown into a dustbin on a TV comedy show, but not the Koran, and that they would broadcast an interview with Osama Bin Laden if given the opportunity. Further, it discloses that the BBC’s ‘diversity tsar’, wants Muslim women newsreaders to be allowed to wear veils when on air.
At the secret meeting in London last month, which was hosted by veteran broadcaster Sue Lawley, BBC executives admitted the corporation is dominated by homosexuals and people from ethnic minorities, deliberately promotes multiculturalism, is anti-American, anti-countryside and more sensitive to the feelings of Muslims than Christians.
Hmmmmm, sounds just like our own lamestream media. And they have the gall to call themselves “journalists”. **spit**
69 Darthmeister // Oct 21, 2006 at 11:42 pm
Barron’s Online predicts Republicans will hold onto both Houses though by diminished majorities.
This will certainly prove to be an interesting election. Also it will be educational to some to see the lamestream media tighten up its polls as they switch from being cheerleaders for the Democrats to facing the reality of what’s actually happening in each race. Critics say that voters are so angry that this would negate whatever money advantages some incumbents might have.
70 Beerme // Oct 21, 2006 at 11:45 pm
Boy, Reyes pitched a great game! Don’t count the Tigers out though. It’s just getting started.
Oh, and Happy Sweetest day, ladies!
71 everthink // Oct 22, 2006 at 12:52 am
Egospeak,
Re: 53, last thread.
You have written:
“You may interpret that however you wish.â€
“You are still free to believe it …â€
And “… but you are still free to believe it if you wish.â€
By what authority do you grant me permission to interpret and believe as I will? That sounds pretty arrogant to me. I am both a free moral agent, and a United States Citizen, I have no need of your permission to do either of these!
In your initial comment you referred to the “evil†of Republican opposition. I attempted to get you to soften your comment, by suggesting “sinâ€, or sinful in substitution, but you were not, having any of that, No sir-re-bob! Now you say my statement is “inflammatoryâ€?
Regarding the cite of the 600,000 reported by Lancet/Johns Hopkins; these seem like reliable sources to me, but if you think that number too high what number would seem more likely to you? How about 400,000, or maybe 200,000 or even only 100,000? Now, go ahead try to put Christ’s endorsement on that, and then tell me about evil! This was a preemptive attack on another nation! An attack without just cause! Nothing this administration said to obtain authorization was true! Twist, stretch and lie, there was no Al Quada connection. There were no WMD. It is true Sadaam’s Iraq was one of a few nations that hated The United States, but thanks to the “unificator†they are now one of many nations, if not most of the nations of the world who hate America.
Make no mistake I DO believe the claims of voter fraud, and intimidation in Ohio ’04, and Florida ’00. It might have been more in the news except for the war. I also believe those issues will be investigated very soon now.
If it was Bill Clinton instead of Dumbyah, and Roger instead of JEB, and if Clinton’s state campaign manager certified the election, after state sovereignty had been usurped by the federal court, you might be willing to see it differently.
The Lord Jesus did not attack the government of Rome; nor did he attack hated publicans, or even sinners. He did refer to the self-righteous, who were always checking the piety of others, and to their adherence to Jewish Law, as snakes, vipers and “whited sepulchres”.
I can only assume the Democrats of today would not only object they would not be worthy company for those who “… as the hypocrites [are]: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men.”
Do Republicans favor public prayer? Do they declare moral superiority to the immoral Democrats?
It seems to me they do, and since you have described the opposition as “evilâ€, so do you.
Bless you,
ET
72 Ms RightWing, Ink // Oct 22, 2006 at 1:11 am
good night all lol
73 Darthmeister // Oct 22, 2006 at 5:40 am
neverthink, from the so-called Republican instigated voter fraud in Ohio 2004 to the fraudulent John Hopkins report, you're merely replowing thoroughly debunked ground. Your self-imposed ignorance is appalling. Your continual insistence that Bush stole Florida in 2000 is laughable and so typical of kool-aid swilling left-wing konspiracy kooks. Remember, the media calling the election for Gore in 2000, breaking their own broadcast rules, an hour before the polls closed in the Florida panhandle may have cost Bush between 12 and 19 thousand votes and could have easily led to the argument that the media was trying to steal Florida from Bush. But in the final analysis is was probably the fact that some Democratic voters are too stupid to vote properly.
A more detailed analysis of this faux left-wing conspiracy that "Bush stole Florida in the 2000 Elections" is given by Dave Kopel at his website dealing with the 59 deceits of Micheal Moore under the heading of 2000 Election Night.
As to putting words in Jesus' mouth, can you show me where He ever condemned Caesar for dealing with predatory nations and evildoers? Show me. And where did Jesus ever condemn a centurion for being a pawn of Caesar? Also read Romans 13, we've been over this before about governments being ministers of God bearing the sword against evildoers.
If there is any "judgment of nations" to be dished out by God it will be because America didn't do enough with her might and wealth in liberating people, not because she attempted too much. Consider, given your own relative wealth and standard of living that you have will God judge you for doing too much or too little for alleviating the pain and suffering of your neighbor? It's not our government's fault that those we attempt to liberate may turn out to be ungrateful murderers and thugs because of an adherence to a debauched, militant religion of feral hatred.
When given a choice you've invariably chosen ignorance over enligtenment, personal opinion over God's Word, the gullible heart over the thinking mind virtually every time.
74 Maggie // Oct 22, 2006 at 8:36 am
Good Morning everybody!
Has anyone seen my little post.
It was a wake-up call in Chinese.
Wakey Wakey!
75 Maggie // Oct 22, 2006 at 8:45 am
Is anyone left in Scrappleville?
Did the ‘LOL’ police come in the middle of the night and arrest all who use LoL in posting on SF.
The time-line is from 1:11am-8:36 am
This is not lol.
76 Ms RightWing, Ink // Oct 22, 2006 at 8:58 am
it is now 8:53. parents do you know where your children are. i hope you moved your computer into the living room where you can supervise. otherwise they may get onto scrapple unsupervised.
So is today the big bang day in football? Crimeinegads, the World series was a gas
77 Ms RightWing, Ink // Oct 22, 2006 at 9:01 am
Oh, and good morning Maggie and all you other slow to move Scrapplers. Arthritis getting us down? Maybe Rheumatism? Take a good swig of rheumatis medicine and let’s roll.
Oh to be 16 again. Nah!
78 conserve-a-tip // Oct 22, 2006 at 9:33 am
Good morning Scrapplers. Maggie, I was up with you, but had to get the hubby to the airport in downtown OKC by 7 am. We live a Looooonnnnggg way from the airport. I am yawning at this moment and wondering if I have the wherewithall to stay awake in chuch, since I didn’t go to bed until midnight and was back up at 4:30. Oh, and I won’t be using the hated ‘lol’ anymore because it is kinda lame and actually, the troll made it kinda icky.
Ms Rightwing, Ink: Slow moving indeed. It is 36 degrees here and it isn’t supposed to be like this! My bones can’t take it and I am dreading winter. Had our first hard frost and it is REALLY early. A good swig of medicine, eh? Couple of teaspoons of Jack Daniels and you’re ready to go.
79 onlineanalyst // Oct 22, 2006 at 9:41 am
“The Carnival of Insanities” at drsanity links this post-modernist (truly tasteless) “Seven Wonders of the Political World” for our morning’s quota of laughter. These are relevant lol’s.
Good morning, folks (hoisting a cup of java in salute of the good fight).
80 Darthmeister // Oct 22, 2006 at 9:49 am
And I bet neverthink won’t even bother to educate himself by merely clicking my links and reading them because he believes he already knows THE TRUTH. neverthink isn’t the least bit interested in honest debate but rather regaling us with the intellectual bankruptcy of his own mind. After reading those links there is no way that he could possibly continue believing Bush stole the 2000 Florida elections or the Ohio 2004 elections. Though left-wing conspiracy kooks do have a habit of surprising me with their utter trust in other kooks who author said conspiracy theories.
81 JamesonLewis3rd // Oct 22, 2006 at 9:49 am
Even though Ameriquest Field is less than five minutes away, I don’t have much interest in baseball anymore. And, even though the new Cowboys’ stadium will be next door to that, I don’t think my interest in football will be rekindled, either.
The Buckeyes, now, that’s a different story.
Other than that, I’ve just been waiting for somebody to post something that makes sense and/or is worthy of response. If you get my drift…..
82 Darthmeister // Oct 22, 2006 at 9:51 am
That’s funny onlineanalyst! I needed that humor break after dealing with our forever ignorant resident troll.
83 JamesonLewis3rd // Oct 22, 2006 at 10:07 am
Yeah, the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World are under attack for not being modern enough. I heard that yesterday and just had to laugh at the absurdity.
Now I read they want Stonehenge to be classified a “Wonder”.
Makes ya wonder…..
I wah-wah-wah-wah-wo-on-der-er-er…..Why-eye…..
84 JamesonLewis3rd // Oct 22, 2006 at 10:21 am
“Stay the course.” Apply directly to the forehead.
“Stay the course.” Apply directly to the forehead.
“Stay the course.” Apply directly to the forehead.
Aargh!!!!!
85 conserve-a-tip // Oct 22, 2006 at 10:29 am
Darthmeister, it is amazing to me that Christians who spout such venom at conservatives because of their view on the war and on personal accountability, are so ignorant of the scriptures. Oh sure. They can spout scripture here and there, but they have never put it all together in its entirety. They ignore the examples and threads that Christ, Paul, etc. used throughout their ministries. How can they get past the constant use, by Christ and Paul, of the metaphor of war? How do they ignore the constant references to “the soldier” and “the battle”, telling us that the Christian life is not an easy one that involves many battles. How do they ignore the scripture that says, “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mothin-in-law. A man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.” Mthw 10:34
How do they explain this? “Each one should remain in the situation which he was in when God called him. Were you a slave when you were called? Don’t let it trouble you - although if you can gain your freedom, do so…Brothers, each man, as responsible to God, should remain in the situation God called him to.” 1 Cor. 7:21
If a man is a soldier, then he is to remain a soldier? Christ never condemned the soldier. He told us that there would be “wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen.”
I marvel at those like ET, who call the conservatives self-righteous and legalistic. Conservatives not only hold others to self-responsibility, but also themselves. Just look at what happened to Foley. A liberal like Studds was not only allowed to continue in a place of power, but was given a standing ovation to boot, for something far worse then what Foley did. On the other hand, Foley was immediately held accountable by his party and he stepped down.
I think that we are looking at the results of a generation of parents who never stood firm on anything because either it was too hard, they didn’t want to make the effort, or they were afraid that their kids wouldn’t like them. The resulting kids (our generation) now have no concept of what true accountability means, what saying, “NO” really means, and what making the tough decisions mean. The generation of the 40’s gave us this great nation by fighting to the death for freedom for their kids and grandkids and great-grandkids. Somewhere along the way, they decided it was too hard to try anymore.
86 onlineanalyst // Oct 22, 2006 at 10:33 am
A thoughtful piece about the likening of events in Iraq and the Tet offensive from an Aussie commenter (linked via Tim Blair) is here.
In part he says, “All Vietnam analogies are suspect, but you can see what Bush was driving at. The global jihadists have a very sophisticated sense of Western politics, especially US politics. It is indeed a central point of jihadist ideology that the US is weak and cannot stand sustained casualties. It’s clear the jihadists want the November 7 elections to develop an unstoppable momentum against Bush so that the mood for the US to withdraw from Iraq becomes irresistible. And they want the US to withdraw in defeat and humiliation. There can be little doubt that John Howard is right to say that this would be a massive boost for terrorists worldwide. Similarly, it is hard to believe that this is what Kim Beazley really wants.”
It is absolutely critical that the Republicans maintain their majority in both houses in the upcoming midterms. Course corrections are in the works via measurable timetables in Iraq. A cut-and-run espoused by some Dems or the possibility of defunding the war effort (as was done after Tet through the negative and false presentation by the MSM) would have disastrous consequences in Iraq and throughout the ME.
87 Libby Gone // Oct 22, 2006 at 10:40 am
Morning all,
Liberal application of Libby Goneâ„¢ seems necessary.
88 Darthmeister // Oct 22, 2006 at 10:42 am
JL3rd,
Here’s something to think about. Bouncing off of what I said earlier about redeploying American military assets into the Iraq desert, a better plan would be to redeploy into Kurdistan of northern Iraq. The people there like us for liberating them from Saddam’s evil regime and it’s a fairly quiet place as far as IED’s and Sunni/Shiite attacks since most Sunni/Shia nutbags and al Qaeda have already been dealt with by the Kurds themselves in their region.
Anyway, we would first warn the present Iraqi government they had better get their house in order and come up with a way to placate both the Sunnis and Shias within two to three months because we’re redeploying. We would then tell the Sunni and Shia factions that they will be free to slaughter one another in the name of their misbegotten religion and Allah or they could start acting like adults and find a way to reconcile themselves as brothers. American forces would not intrude in the sectarian fighting since Sunni radical killing Shia radical and vice versa. Actually, at one level, this sectarian violence is actually accomplishing a noble goal of ridding Iraq of militants. Unfortunately innocent women and children will be killed as murderous Muslims flail away at one another, BUT IT WON’T BE BECAUSE OF THE AMERICAN PRESENCE. You won’t have America to blame for your own murderous dispositions.
We would continue providing air support and limited SpecOPs support to the Iraqi government, but only at their behest. In the meantime American and Coalition military forces would set up on Kurdistan’s southern border and vigorously defend that border - along with the Kurds - against any attempt by Sunni, Shia or foreign terrorists to cause trouble in the north.
From that vantage point we could contain the scope of the sectarian violence though maybe if it spilled over into Iran and Syria it might be a good thing in the long run. Regime change on the cheap. Also, this would free our American troops, who will be in little direct danger based as they were in northern Iraq, to engage in missions against Iran or Syria if it becomes necessary in the years to come.
Open for discussion. At least it’s a plan and its better than anything Democrats have come up with since they are loathe to stick their own necks out, except for the dimbulb Murtha who would have us redeploy six thousand miles away to OKINAWA!
89 Ms RightWing, Ink // Oct 22, 2006 at 10:43 am
Darthmeister
Do you not know ET uses the Wonder Comic Version (WCV) of the Holy Bible. The comics have to spruce things up a bit in order to keep their readers on the edge of their seat. It is a good read for 25 cents.
90 Darthmeister // Oct 22, 2006 at 11:16 am
Ms RightWing …. buwahahahahaha! Now that’s very funny, dear lady. I wasn’t aware of the existence of that comic book series so I googled it here. Makes what you said even funnier.
One more thing about Bush “stealing” the Florida 2000. Once again we’re going over previously plowed ground but even the left-wing New York Times admits Bush won the recounts. More ballots of black and older voters are invalidated because they make more voting errors. What’s so hard to believe about that? A vote isn’t a vote until its cast correctly AND THEY ARE MORE OFTEN THAN NOT CAST IN DEMOCRATIC PRECINCTS! So don’t blaming Bush or the Republicans. But this is how conspiracy kooks gin up the swill that people like neverthink suck down like pre-sweetened kool-aid.
Naturally, conspiracy nutcases will claim the New York Times is actually “right-wing” and that it “lied” about the fact Bu$Hitler and Rove stole Florida in 2000 … blah, blah, blah. Now we see that trolls like neverthink are rubbing their hands hoping that lying, partisan Democrats can gain control of the U.S. House so they can engage in bogus House “investigations” as a form of small-minded political payback. Of course truth won’t matter one whit when you get a bunch of partisan hacks on a witchhunt. This is the kind of “justice” and good governance embraced by the likes of the neverthinks of the world and that’s why despicable liars like him and those he votes for should never gain the reigns of power in America.
91 Darthmeister // Oct 22, 2006 at 11:18 am
Ooops, wrong link for the New York Times conclusion, you can find it here. Sorry, I didn’t reload after googling Wonder Comics.
92 Darthmeister // Oct 22, 2006 at 11:19 am
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93 Darthmeister // Oct 22, 2006 at 11:28 am
Top 10 reasons why the religious right should stop voting until Jesus runs.
Hilarious.
94 onlineanalyst // Oct 22, 2006 at 11:36 am
In case any Scrapplers or lurkers missed Hugh Hewitt’s interview with Mark Steyn focusing primarily on Steyn’s newest work, America Alone, some terrific points are made about the importance of this election and the wrong message that Democrats are counting on to regain their power.
For example (and this one is for boberinagain and his ilk): “…it’s not just about the big issue out there, but I think it’s also about how the big issue connects with the small issues, because I understand that if you’re someone who’s not earning a particularly huge salary, and you’re living in a part of the United States where there aren’t a lot of great jobs, and health care is pretty expensive, and you’ve got a lot of problems, and you’ve been finding the $3 dollar a gallon gas hard to come by, and all the rest of it, that it’s easy to say that a bunch of mullahs, or Kim Jong Il isn’t relevant to the problems that you’re confronting in your life. And what I try to do in the book is actually to make the case that America, compared…America’s domestic situation, compared to almost anywhere else in the world, is enviable. And so it staggers me that Democrats think they can run on the economy. You know, unemployment is 4% in the United States. 4%. It’s permanently double that in the European Union. And in France, they get all excited if it occasionally dips under double figures for three or four weeks at a time. They live with permanent high unemployment. You may get annoyed…you know, gas is down to, I don’t know what it is now, $2.40, $2.30 a gallon, and people were annoyed when it was $3 a gallon. It’s $5.80 in Germany. It’s just gone down to $6.30 a gallon in the United Kingdom. You know, compared to almost anywhere else on the planet, the U.S. has a robust economy. And so when the Democrats say that this country needs to become more like Europe, that has enfeebled Europe to the point where it can no longer resist the threat of Islamism, and in fact, the annexation of that continent by Islam. The two…the little issues that affect everybody’s daily life, and the big issue, are intimately connected.”
Later in the interview when Steyn comments on the absurdity of not taking Li’l Kim and Ahmadaboutjihad seriously, he observes:
“Well, I think they’re (the elections are) critical, because I think to effectively repudiate the Bush administration, which is how it would be seen domestically, would be seen around the world as in fact a repudiation of the broader American will, and broader American determination. So I think that would be serious, not because there aren’t legitimate differences about the war, and about fighting this enemy, and long term strategy, but because you’d be electing a party that simply has no useful contribution to this. I don’t think it’s possible to take Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, the Democratic Party of these two people, and Howard Dean seriously on this issue. They have not engaged seriously with it. And as I said on the domestic front, they’re wedded to the solutions that have in fact turned Europeans into a weak continent that’s sort of mortgaging its future to deeply hostile forces every passing month.”
95 Ms RightWing, Ink // Oct 22, 2006 at 12:51 pm
If America loses all common sense and votes Democrats then the conservatives in Hollywood, all two of them will have to re-make the cowboy movies, “Shane.”
As the last American not bombed, killed or in any way mentally or physically crippled rides away in the smoldering ruins left by jihads suitcase nukes, a little boy runs to the door (as it collapse like charcoal ) and shouts George, George, come back.
96 Ms RightWing, Ink // Oct 22, 2006 at 1:06 pm
This just in from Beat The Press:
Borax Obama is running in 2008! The sound of cursing and death threats could be heard coming from Mrs Clinton’s (formerly known as Hillary) office shortly after the broadcast.
As for Borax’s comments, about the only notable statement was. “As for his lack of experience, I’m not sure anyone is ready to be president before they’re president.”
Soon afterwards President Ford was rushed to the hospital with chest pains. President Clinton, who was impeached, said in his gravely voice, “Yes, I agree, but he better practice bitting his lip on crying on command.”
As for Pelosi, well we still haven’t found her.
97 Darthmeister // Oct 22, 2006 at 1:30 pm
Does anyone have any links to anything that Barrack “Osama” Obama (thank you Teddy Kennedy) has done since being elected to the Senate? Any bills that he authored, any that he may have co-sponsored?
Sounds like a real Manchurian Candidate or at least a stealth candidate to me … not necessarily the commie kind, though. There are some on the left who see John McCain as a Manchurian Candidate because of his experience as an American POW who may have been reprogrammed by the commies to later go into political life. Hmmmmm, another left-wing conspiracy theory, when will they ever end?
98 JamesonLewis3rd // Oct 22, 2006 at 1:33 pm
RE: #88~~
Darthmeister~~
Might as well “redeploy” to the Moon, I agree.
Move to Iraqi Kurdistan? I’m not sure-that might be workable. But…..wouldn’t Turkey have a cow?
The Iraqis are definitely flunking out of Democracy 101.For now, I think the entire population needs a “detention”.
I say put the whole place under curfew unless they’re on their way to/from work or school; maybe give them a couple of hours in the afternoon to shop.
If someone messes up, take away a shopping day-do it again, take another. They all should accept responsibility, stop blaming so-and-so and start weeding out (snitching on) those who are disrupting their lives. The people there don’t seem to resent the disruptions and disrupters-I mean, somebody disrupts around here in my neighborhood, I’m dialing 911.
That’s simplistic-off the top of my head-but something along those lines.
If we back out and leave them to their “civil war”, democracy is out the window, I’m afraid.
FLASH!!!!! I know! Fog the whole place with nitrous oxide!
99 Maggie // Oct 22, 2006 at 2:24 pm
Darth re 93
Is she a real Bush hater or is it satire? I need to know ASAP so I can decide if it is funny or not :>)
100 conserve-a-tip // Oct 22, 2006 at 2:26 pm
Darthmeister - Re #97: If you will go here, you will find the most recent bills that he has sponsored or cosponsored. This is a wonderful site for researching bills.
101 conserve-a-tip // Oct 22, 2006 at 2:36 pm
And in looking over those bills, I found something kinda funny. While most are just fluff, there is one bill that calls for tracking of spent fuel rods -good-and establishing an Emergency Family Locator system-good-and a bill demanding full disclosure on legislation coming out of conference committees-umm, don’t know about that one.
So he is all about tracking, disclosure, etc. And yet he introduces a bill prohibiting photo id’s for voting while introducing another bill prohibiting deceptive voting practices. Right.
Darthmeister - I have heard it said and, in looking, have seen it come true, that very, very rarely does a senator get voted into the office of the Presidency. I realize that Kennedy did it, but he was something different altogether. “Obama, I’ve seen Kennedy and you are not Kennedy.”
And that goes for “senator” Clinton too.
102 conserve-a-tip // Oct 22, 2006 at 2:39 pm
Hmm. My link didn’t work. Let’s try this and when you get there, go to ‘browse bills by senator’ and pull up Osama Obama
and up will come a list of bills. Hoping this works now.
103 conserve-a-tip // Oct 22, 2006 at 2:39 pm
Yippee. It works. Go have fun.
104 Beerme // Oct 22, 2006 at 3:58 pm
I am generally in support of the bill to demand full disclosure on legislation coming out of conference committees. Full disclosure on all activities by congresscritters sounds good to me (family members who lobby, entities who paid to finance elections, etc.).
But this bill is not what I would use to define Obama. He is illuminated more by bills such as his actions concerning Juneteenth and resisting the need for voter ID…
105 The Great Santini // Oct 22, 2006 at 4:51 pm
♪ ♪ ♪ SOMEWHERE, NEAR OKINAWA ♪ ♪ ♪
[Tune: “Somewhere, Over the Rainbowâ€, music and lyrics by Harold Arlen and Yip Harburg, performed by Judy Garland in “The Wizard of Ozâ€; © 2006, Santini Serenades]
[Verse]
Somewhere, near Okinawa
Warrior Nan
And war hero Jack Murtha
Will fight Jihadistan
[Verse]
Off the coast of Djibouti
Tall they’ll stand
Boldly there they’ll sheikh booty
“Tough but smart†bug-out plan
[Bridge]
Someday, when Dems control the House
Then Xena Nan and Jack the Mouse will yammer
Since they consider fighting crude
Brave Nan and Jack tout dhimmitude
Cut/run wind…ja-a-ammers
[Verse]
With the chips on the table
Wobblers fly
Redeployment’s a fable
Defeatocratic lie
[Tag]
Nan and Jack’s hightail-it smack
Will stab Iraq’s back….
Leave…them…high…and…dry-y-y-y-y-y!
106 Ms RightWing, Ink // Oct 22, 2006 at 5:02 pm
Anybody know how to download articles from my blog to the CD. I hate to lose everything like possumtrot did. I’m starting to freak here
107 upnorthlurkin // Oct 22, 2006 at 7:42 pm
Thanks for the chortle, Gr8 Santini! Alone in the house, I really let ‘er rip The cats are totally traumatized! Heh,heh, heh!
108 Darthmeister // Oct 22, 2006 at 8:16 pm
Maggie,
No, she posts as a pseudo-lib at BlameBush. Very convincing as a faux moonbat wouldn’t you say?
109 JamesonLewis3rd // Oct 22, 2006 at 8:19 pm
The spate of polls these days that try to characterize the results of the upcoming elections as a foregone conclusion crack me up.
How in the world can you draw conclusions by polling 1,000 people, even if they are likely voters? And why do they never, ever provide the questions these people answered? Did they interview 200 people from each state-urban, suburban and rural?
Polls are trash, just another way for somebody to steal a paycheck. And the way the results are skewed by those who report on them is shameful.
Bah.
For example, the Newsweek poll referred to in an article entitled “Are the Faithful Losing Faith?” (accompanied by a photo of an ecstatic Pelosi and friends in an apparent jubilant, celebratory frenzy) yesterday this info is found at the end: ‘The NEWSWEEK poll, conducted Oct. 19-20, has a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points. In conducting the poll, Princeton Survey Research Associates International interviewed 1,000 adults aged 18 and older.”
Yet, Reuters reorts that “The poll of 1,000 likely voters found that 55 percent would choose a Democrat to represent their district if the vote were held now, and 37 percent said they would vote Republican.” (Emphasis mine)
Now, where did they get that “likely voters” idea? Well, the Newsweek article does say that “Fifty-five percent of likely voters in the new NEWSWEEK poll say…..” but my take on that is that, of the 1,000 people interviewed, not all were necessarily “likely voters”. I say this because the article does not say they interviewed 1,000 “likely voters”.
I mean, that “55%” could be 5 out of the 9 “likely voters” in that batch of 1,000-991 could have been unlikely voters-who knows.
110 Darthmeister // Oct 22, 2006 at 8:24 pm
As to Osama Obama, I would say that he hasn’t exactly distinguished himself. Also, one moment when he’s speaking to a national audience he sounds very “moderate”, almost conservative, but when speaking at DemDonk fundraisers or out of the general public’s eye he’s a flaming liberal - pro-abortion, pro-affirmative action, a total Democrat partisan on most issues.
He often speaks of personal responsibility but I think his definition of that is different than the normal person’s because he’ll undercut it with some it-takes-a-village-to-raise-a-child spiel or some collectivist mumbo-jumbo while on the stump in DemDonk land.
111 onlineanalyst // Oct 22, 2006 at 8:38 pm
Better be careful with terms like mumbo-jumbo, Darth, or soon you will be lapsing into macaca language. The insensitivity meters of the PC crowd will be after you.
Will America be able to contain itself with Lesley Stahl’s love tribute to Nancy IsLousy tonight? The putative next Speaker of the House gets to campaign for free courtesy of the LamestreamMedia (in keeping with McCain-Feingold parameters, of course). Those hot lights surely can do a number of wax though. Soft focus might overcome the problem.
112 Maggie // Oct 22, 2006 at 8:40 pm
‘Santini the Greatest’….laughing and “sheikhing with laughter”.
I think I agree with UpNorthlurkin,but must ask is Chortle made from pig by-products? :>)
Darth re #108
Yes,she is amazing but I still have my doubts.
C.A.T.
I added the Bills’ link to my favorites list.Thank-you.
113 conserve-a-tip // Oct 22, 2006 at 9:09 pm
Darthmeister, I believe the term is “triangulation”? I could swear that somebody else practiced that and won, and his wife is trying the same thing…yes, I believe that she would be the opponent to Osama Obama. With both triangulating, would that make it an Isocelese or acute? No…I think…obtuse, although for the country as a whole, it could be pretty acute.
114 conserve-a-tip // Oct 22, 2006 at 9:11 pm
Maggie: You are most welcome. Perhaps your state has a similar site under your state senate and state representative sites. Oklahoma has a wonderful way to track state bills so that you can read them and contact the legislators concerned.
115 R.A.M. // Oct 22, 2006 at 9:47 pm
JL3: re #84—-Funny!
How about this:
Preparation H—shrinks swollen Nancy Pelosi’s fast-fast-fast!!!
116 JamesonLewis3rd // Oct 22, 2006 at 10:15 pm
Personally, I don’t care much for the perpetual, smug smirk Obama wears (link is semi-comical-in a frightening way).
On Larry King he made it clear that he wants to cozy up to the bloodthirsty enemies of the Free World, like Iran and Syria, “…..to make sure that they are engaged and have a stake in creating some semblance of order there…..”
117 Napoleon // Oct 22, 2006 at 10:26 pm
I just watched Pelosi on 60 mins. I like her. I’m glad she’ll be the speaker.
Thats all for now. Love you guys.
Liger, er…. Napoleon.
118 Godfrey // Oct 22, 2006 at 10:46 pm
Hank: response in the math thread.
Scrapplers: my daughter and I went to Tyler Stanger’s funeral yesterday. It was a huge affair: the large chapel was filled to the brim (I’d guess upwards of 1000 people). It was like being at a concert. Standing room only.
Afterward, by the graveside, a couple of his buddies did a fly-by in the “missing man formation”. Tyler’s plane, 3RU, was in the lead position. It broke out of the formation as the planes passed overhead, leaving an empty slot. 3RU did climbing turns directly above the crowd, spiraling upward until you had to squint to see it. Then it flew away to the east and was gone.
Tyler would have loved it.
His widow Stephanie has updated his memorial site with a detailed biography and lots of comments from friends, family and fellow pilots, some of which were read at the service.
119 conserve-a-tip // Oct 22, 2006 at 10:51 pm
James, that poster was hillarious. Thanks for that.
120 conserve-a-tip // Oct 22, 2006 at 10:56 pm
Godfrey, again, my condolences. The fly-by sounds amazing. I think that I would have cried at such a moving presentation, even not knowing the man. Since my son is in aviation, I have been really moved by the closeness and comraderie that is felt between all of those involved in the business. He is only 22 and already knows people from all over who recognize him and call him by name. You guys are really special.
121 Ms RightWing, Ink // Oct 22, 2006 at 11:00 pm
Hmm, no computer geeks amongst us. sigh
122 conserve-a-tip // Oct 22, 2006 at 11:13 pm
I wish that I could help you Ms Rightwing, Ink, but it took two people on here just to help me do happy faces and links!!! I am technologically challenged and not afraid to admit it. Unfortunately, they don’t make a pill for that…sigh.
123 Ms RightWing, Ink // Oct 22, 2006 at 11:32 pm
It should be an easy job, but somehow my brain has a missing link. I bought a pack of CD-RW’s but it just isn’t working. Once again-sigh
124 everthink // Oct 22, 2006 at 11:49 pm
‘Santini the Greatest’….laughing and “sheikhing with laughterâ€.
Really? Maggie, you need to get out more … at least for meds.
“Thanks for the chortle, Gr8 Santini! Alone in the house, I really let ‘er rip The cats are totally traumatized! Heh,heh, heh!”
Lurkingjerk alone and his cats. Why don’t you go visit Maggie?
Do you not know ET uses the Wonder Comic Version (WCV) of the Holy Bible. The comics have to spruce things up a bit in order to keep their readers on the edge of their seat. It is a good read for 25 cents. “What no laughing and sheikhing with laughter”
How about at least a little chortle for Ms RightWing, Ink. Thanks for the effort!
Come-on gang laugh it up. Have a good time for now. I understand the November Chill is coming, but just don’t force it so.
ET
Don’t worry, I will be with you when you see the rath of America on Wingnuts.
125 everthink // Oct 23, 2006 at 12:00 am
How many jingles, do you guess Singing Santini would write, if he didn’t work for the state. Just
wondering ….
ET
126 The Great Santini // Oct 23, 2006 at 12:05 am
Maggie & UNL:
Thanks, and follow the yellow brick road.
Oh, and don’t worry about everstink…he’s starring in “Jackass III” and has to practice his head-wedge maneuver.
127 Darthmeister // Oct 23, 2006 at 12:12 am
Falling for the media hype again, eh neverthink? Like I said before, a normal off year election in the sixth year of a two term president typically results in the minority party picking up 35-40 seats. So where’s this “rath (sic) of America on Wingnuts” except in the mind of the liberal media and believed upon by moonbats like you? Cutting through all the partisan crapolla coming from your side of the aisle, REPUBLICANS ARE EXPECTED TO LOSE SEATS BASED ON HISTORICAL TRENDS. Sheesh. But it’s not a sure bet the Republicans will lose all those seats either.
BTW, a New York Times editor admitted that the paper was wrong for leaking information about the SWIFT surveillance program. A month late and a couple of million dollars short I’d say. I directed you to Michelle Malkin’s site since you have to register at the NYT to see the actual mea culpa.
Excerpt:
My July 2 column strongly supported The Times’s decision to publish its June 23 article on a once-secret banking-data surveillance program. After pondering for several months, I have decided I was off base. There were reasons to publish the controversial article, but they were slightly outweighed by two factors to which I gave too little emphasis. While it’s a close call now, as it was then, I don’t think the article should have been published.
Those two factors are really what bring me to this corrective commentary: the apparent legality of the program in the United States, and the absence of any evidence that anyone’s private data had actually been misused. I had mentioned both as being part of “the most substantial argument against running the story,†but that reference was relegated to the bottom of my column.
I haven’t found any evidence in the intervening months that the surveillance program was illegal under United States laws. Although data-protection authorities in Europe have complained that the formerly secret program violated their rules on privacy, there have been no Times reports of legal action being taken.
So all you trolls who were ranting about the illegality of said program and the violation of your right to privacy have just been taken for another ride by the illustrious New York Times.
128 everthink // Oct 23, 2006 at 12:17 am
Hey Folks,
Liger has returned! Bring a ring for his finger, and kill the fatted calf! Welcome home! Isn’t it a shame that so often it takes a funeral to bring us together like this? Ok, my brother, they’ve dug their own hole now let’s throw the neo-cons, in.
Let me know if you feel a chortle coming on will you?
ET
129 Godfrey // Oct 23, 2006 at 12:22 am
Mrs. RW: you can get a site ripper like Page Sucker. With it you can download an entire site (which in this case you don't want) or just the part of the hierarchy you want (i.e. everything within your blog's hierarchy).
This does take a little bit of know-how, though, and will only work if your blog host hasn't banned site ripping. Depending on how many pages you have it may be simpler to just click-save every page manually.
130 everthink // Oct 23, 2006 at 12:30 am
Dumbvader,
When I said wrath, I didn’t mean the elections.
I meant the events that the elections will set in motion!
Watch JOHN CONYERS go!!!!
ET
131 JamesonLewis3rd // Oct 23, 2006 at 12:52 am
This article considers four options for “fixing” Iraq.
One of the alternatives is “tripartheid” or partitioning:
“Partitioning Iraq is an approach that could earn an A+ in a graduate course at the Kennedy School of Government, but will get an immediate F in the real world. An independent Kurdistan — the presumed northern section — would violate the agreement President Bush made with Turkey before the invasion. The Turks would invade because they believe (with much justification) that an independent Kurdistan would seek to expand into northeastern Turkey. Shia southern Iraq would be swallowed by Iran, and the middle — Sunni Iraq — would become part of Syria or a Syrian satellite terrorist state like Lebanon. Even if Iraq’s neighbors wouldn’t invade or interfere (an assumption that would be hilarious if it weren’t so dangerous), only Kurdistan could possibly survive as an independent state. The other two would lack either the economic resources necessary to survive or the political unity to function, or both.”
132 JamesonLewis3rd // Oct 23, 2006 at 1:03 am
Pelosi says there won’t be an impeachment of President Bush under her Speakership.
Yeah.
Right.
Sure.
We believe ya.
Uh-huh.
Yep.
133 Godfrey // Oct 23, 2006 at 4:47 am
CAT re: #120 - oh, we’re “special” all right! 8-)~
JL3 re: #130 - Well-written article but his opinions…especially the one you quoted…don’t seem accompanied by facts. I’m not saying such facts don’t exist, only that he didn’t include them in his article. Since I am interested in the idea of federalizing Iraq (not necessarily partitioning it) I’d be interested in knowing how he arrived at his conclusions. As written they seem less like the result of methodic analysis and more like pronouncements from on high.
134 JamesonLewis3rd // Oct 23, 2006 at 7:10 am
The Barron’s article that’s been generating talk over the weekend is fairly interesting. Their follow-the-money perspective, which is unique to me, has a certain logic to it and seems to have a good track record.
135 camojack // Oct 23, 2006 at 7:46 am
Anybody know how to download articles from my blog to the CD. I hate to lose everything like possumtrot did. I’m starting to freak here
Comment by Ms RightWing, Ink — October 22, 2006 @ 5:02 pm
Against just such a possibility, I did a copy & paste of my blog’s template; there’s one copy on my ‘puter’s hard drive, and copies in 3 of my various email web-based accounts.
Of course, if you want to save individual articles, more copy & paste is required…
136 Darthmeister // Oct 23, 2006 at 9:30 am
Then you’ve proven my point, neverthink. Democrats aren’t interested in the safety and security of this country but rather only interested in salvaging self-respect through political payback. How despicable, but I figured it would be cause for your celebration.
Bush hasn’t done anything that warrants impeachment other than aggressively pursuing his responsible to make America secure against the rising tide of Islamofascism.
You’re exactly what writer Dan Simmons was writing about when he referred to a dog tearing at his own entrails. You and other moonbats have the strange ability to see your own countrymen and neighbors as your enemy while winking at the real enemies hoping they’ll become your friends. You’re a sad man.
They blamed their leaders like a sun-maddened dog ripping and chewing at its own belly. …In 2006, you’ll be ripping and tearing at yourselves so fiercely that your nation – the only one on Earth actually fighting against resurgent caliphate Islam in this long struggle over the very future of civilization – will become so preoccupied with criticizing yourselves and trying to gain short-term political advantage, that you’ll all forget that there’s actually a war for your survival going on. Twenty-five years from now, every man or woman in America who wishes to vote will be required to read Thucydides on this matter. And others as well. And there are tests. If you don’t know some history, you don’t vote . . . much less run for office. America’s vacation from knowing history ends very soon now . . . for you, I mean. And for those few others left alive in the world who are allowed to vote.â€
“Those few others left alive who are allowed to vote?†I said, the words just now striking me like hardthrown stones. “What the hell are you talking about? Has our government taken away all our civil liberties in this awful future of yours?â€
He laughed then and this time it was a deep, hearty, truly amused laugh. “Oh, yes,†he said when the laughter abated a bit. He actually wiped away tears from his one good eye. “I had almost forgotten about your fears of your, our . . . civil liberties . . . being abridged by our own government back in these last stupidity-allowed years of 2005 and 2006 and 2007 . Where exactly do you see this repression coming from?â€
“Well . . .†I said. I hate it when I start a sentence with ‘well,’ especially in an argument. “Well, the Patriot Act. Bush authorizing spying on Americans . . . international phonecalls and such. Uh . . . I think mosques in the States are under FBI surveillance. I mean, they want to look up what library books we’re reading, for God’s sake. Big Brother. 1984. You know.â€
The Time Traveler laughed again, but with more edge this time. “Yes, I know,†he said. “We all know . . . up there in the future which some of you will survive to see as free people. Civil liberties. In 2006 you still fear yourselves and your own institutions first, out of old habit. A not unworthy – if fatally misguided and terminally masochistic – paranoia. I will tell you right now, and this is not a prediction but a history lesson, some of your grandchildren will live in dhimmitude.â€
137 Darthmeister // Oct 23, 2006 at 9:30 am
…oh dear, Pelosi stole my post.
138 Darthmeister // Oct 23, 2006 at 9:32 am
JL3rd,
For Pelosi to say there won’t be a Bush impeachment while she is speaker can mean only one of two things, she’s lying like Demoncrats always do or she won’t be speaker very long.
139 Let Freedom Ring » Blog Archive » Scott Ott’s Wit & Wisdom // Oct 23, 2006 at 12:37 pm
[...] October 23rd, 2006 • 11:36 amScott Ott’s Wit & Wisdom Scott Ott’s been my favorite satirist for quite some time. Today’s post is simply the best I’ve ever seen. Here’s what got me laughing uncontrollably: Standing with the California lawmaker at a news conference, Rep. Murtha, a former Marine, unveiled what he called “our new Democrat vision for Iraq to become a country that can defend, sustain and govern itself, a country which will serve as an ally in this war on terror. We got to thinking, Nancy and me, that the old Democrat vision of a U.S. pullout would have created a safe haven and base of operations for al Qaeda to launch its global jihad,” said Rep. Murtha. “and it would have sent a message to those seeking freedom in the Arab world that we think they don’t deserve to be free or can’t govern themselves democratically.” Asked whether this new position wouldn’t just play into the hands of Republicans three weeks before a national election, a clearly agitated Rep. Pelosi said, “We’re talking about a global conflict that threatens our civilization, and you’re asking about politics?” [...]
140 California Conservative » Scott Ott’s Wit & Wisdom // Oct 23, 2006 at 12:38 pm
[...] Filed Under: Humor, Pelosi, Iraq, Author: Gary Gross Scott Ott’s been my favorite satirist for quite some time. Today’s post is simply the best I’ve ever seen. Here’s what got me laughing uncontrollably: Standing with the California lawmaker at a news conference, Rep. Murtha, a former Marine, unveiled what he called “our new Democrat vision for Iraq to become a country that can defend, sustain and govern itself, a country which will serve as an ally in this war on terror. We got to thinking, Nancy and me, that the old Democrat vision of a U.S. pullout would have created a safe haven and base of operations for al Qaeda to launch its global jihad,” said Rep. Murtha. “and it would have sent a message to those seeking freedom in the Arab world that we think they don’t deserve to be free or can’t govern themselves democratically.” Asked whether this new position wouldn’t just play into the hands of Republicans three weeks before a national election, a clearly agitated Rep. Pelosi said, “We’re talking about a global conflict that threatens our civilization, and you’re asking about politics?” [...]
141 Pelosi, Murtha Call on Terrorists to Pull Out of Iraq « Fish-Wrap.net // Oct 25, 2006 at 7:24 am
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142 One Hand Clapping » Blog Archive » Murtha, Pelosi - news calls for Iraq withdrawal // Oct 25, 2006 at 5:13 pm
[...] Murtha, D-PA, today issued a joint statement calling again for withdrawals from Iraq. [link] Posted @ 4:12 pm. Filed under Humor and satire Comments policy Commenting is provided asa courtesy only. I review all comments before they appear. I do not edit comments, I only approve or delete. My criteria for approving or deleting generally correspond to the following guidelines but in the end are subjective. Comments using profanity automatically get tossed into the bit bucket - I never see them and neither does anyone else. No personal attacks, name calling or commercial commenting. Links to your own blog site or relevant other web pages are fine. Please be brief and relevant to the post. I rarely answer comments, I just don’t have the time. [...]
143 Sunday Funnies : Stop The ACLU // Jun 8, 2008 at 12:45 am
[...] Patterico shows us how one becomes a right wing pundit. Dan Collins encounters the sock puppet army Ace announces Haiku Contest Winners The Chatterbox Chronicles shares some good funnies. IMAO: Republicans, Democrats and 3 Dollar Bills An Editorial By Spacemonkey Scrappleface: Pelosi, Murtha Call On Terrorists To Pull Out Of Iraq [...]
144 Sports Jerks // Sep 7, 2008 at 10:17 pm
Ohio State Buckeyes 2008 Preview…
The Buckeyes come back with a load of talent and a weak schedule. That combinaton should lead to success for the Buckeyes if they can get by their week 3 test of the Trojans of USC where the game will be played in Southern California.
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