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Kennedy Slams Zawahiri for Politicizing 9/11

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(2006-09-12) — Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-MA, today harshly criticized al Qaeda deputy Ayman al-Zawahiri for using this week’s commemoration of the 5th anniversary of the 9/11 terror attacks to release a video aimed at garnering support for the increasingly-unpopular war in Iraq.

The Massachusetts senator rejected Mr. Zawahiri’s attempt to link Iraq with the global terrorism battle, and called the speech video, aired on CNN, “cynically political.”

“The notion,” he said, “that there is somehow some connection between what happens in Baghdad and Boston, or even in Beirut is nothing but rhetoric meant to keep people afraid so that Zawahiri and bin Laden can maintain their grip on power.”

Sen. Kennedy also faulted Mr. Zawahiri for “violating the wall between church and state” by including the name of Allah in his pronouncements, and leaving the impression that “anyone who doesn’t believe like us is wrong.”

“The intolerance and arrogance of the man make me embarrassed to call myself an Earthling,” Mr. Kennedy said. “Zawahiri is almost as bad as President Bush.”

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159 responses so far ↓

  • 1 JamesonLewis3rd // Sep 12, 2006 at 7:46 am

    God Bless America

  • 2 MargeinMI // Sep 12, 2006 at 7:57 am

    It wouldn’t surprize me one little bit if this was an actual quote from Big Fat Teddy K.

    As boberin says: Good stuff Scott!

  • 3 camojack // Sep 12, 2006 at 8:02 am

    C’mon now…Edward would never criticize a terrorist.

  • 4 Kibi // Sep 12, 2006 at 8:03 am

    If only…

  • 5 seneuba // Sep 12, 2006 at 8:04 am

    How dare they speak politics on a day when the most important thing in Washington is Monday night Football! Have they no shame?

  • 6 Just Ranting // Sep 12, 2006 at 8:38 am

    Kennedy criticized someone who hates America? He must have been drunk!

  • 7 Deerslayer // Sep 12, 2006 at 8:41 am

    Re:#6
    How would you know? Have you ever seen Kennedy in any other state?

  • 8 JamesonLewis3rd // Sep 12, 2006 at 8:43 am

    Kennedy misquotes President Bush and misses the big picture in a big way.

    While Hussien himself was not personally involved in the 9/11 attacks, I don’t see how the LLL could miss letting Iraq slide all those years served to embolden terrorists.

    Not responding to the many attacks that took place over the years did the same.

    Political Correctness and wimpy wrist-slaps and rhetorical scoldings and retreats and pretending terrorist attacks did not occur and CYA and letting agenda-driven polls think for the leaders of America and putting, on the part of the “intelligence” community, career before country-all in the face of not just verbal threats from our enemies but malevolent, murderous actions-that’s what brought us 9/11.

    The terrorists should see us with our feet firmly planted. They should see us with our gloves off. They should not see any glimmer of hope for their cause-the utter futility of their power-hungry self-aggrandizing dreams.

    Every tank, every APC, every military person that can walk and pull a trigger-all should plow through Baghdad pushing the psychopathic criminals into a cage (or a grave) at the other end. Playing “nice” will not get the job done.

    I’m in the phone book; I’ll take point-let’s kick some arse.

  • 9 Fred Sinclair // Sep 12, 2006 at 8:48 am

    “……almost as bad as President Bush.” Yup, if he could somehow be forced (fat chance) to tell the truth the last sentence would read “……almost as bad as I am.”

    Saw Matt Lauer this AM talking with “Hanoi Jane” plugging her new radio program - a terrifying trio of Jane (Hanoi) Fonda, Gloria Steinem and Rosie O’Donald, Watch out Rush! (ain’t that speshul?). AM and now FM.

    Fred Sinclair, Heirborn Ranger

  • 10 MargeinMI // Sep 12, 2006 at 8:57 am

    To continue the theme of comments from the previous thread…what did I do that day:

    At the time, I was working for the natural gas company that supplies Detroit (and a lot of other places). I was in my work truck, alone, on pipeline patrol. The local rock & roll station was interrupeted with the news of the first hit. I thought, wow, how could a pilot not see the WTC and hit it? A few minutes later, the news of the second hit. I switched to WJR News and listened to Peter Jennings report. I remember looking at nearby drivers and seeing what I was sure was a reflection of the disbelief on my own face. I will never forget the emotion in Jenning’s voice when the first tower fell. I thought about pulling into the nearest church to pray, but decided to pray while driving to finish my patrol and get back to the office asap.

    When I returned, I joined the crowd in the control room. At this point, there was speculation that the death toll could possibly reach 50,000, just at the WTC. Some of the guys were making jokes. I was so disgusted, I had to leave the room. My biggest personal regret of that day is that I didn’t call them on it and ask them to join me in prayer. It still makes me sick. I know humor is a release sometimes, but at that moment, it was SO inappropriate!

    I was asked if I could work that night. After arranging for my boy to spend the night at the neighbor’s, I agreed. My job was to sit vigil at a remote compressor station. Although the chances of anything happening there were remote, it was not unimaginable. Being only 60 miles from Dearborn(istan), I can understand management’s concerns. It would be a juicy target.

    I relieved my co-worker at about 10 that night and spent the next 8 hours by myself. My instructions were to ESD (emergency shut down) the station and start closing valves if anything happened. It was kind of scary walking around on hourly checks in the dark of night. This station is in the boondocks, and I felt VERY alone. I spent the night cross-stitching and listening to the local easy listening station. The DJ had opened the phone lines for requests and comments. I drew much comfort from listening to the calls for prayers and heartmoving songs she played. It was a looooooong night.

    Like Ms. RW, I didn’t see any video until I got home on 9/11. Mind blowing.

    Another vivid memory: Watching my boy and the neighbor’s daughter, both 5 at the time, running around with arms outstretched playing ‘airplane.’ What innocence.

    My thoughts after watching Path to 9-11, and President Bush’s address last night: being physically sick to my stomach and ANGER! I don’t know if some of those conversations were actually true or not, but I do know that the buck was passed and passed and passed. Clinton was ALL about image, political correctness and what his legacy would be throughout his entire presidency. I didn’t need this docudrama to tell me that. Why didn’t Tenant say, “I’M not going to pass the buck down the hall, it stops with ME!”? ‘Cause he didn’t want to be the fall guy like Reno after Waco? Gutless.

    Watching Jamie Gorlick on George Stupidpoopyhead on Sunday going on about how the lack of communication between the FBI and CIA led to 9/11 made me scream out loud at my tv.

    Enough.

    GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!

  • 11 Darthmeister // Sep 12, 2006 at 9:11 am

    I bet Ted Orqaquiddick Kennedy has drowned more people than Zawahiri. Who is he to judge this noble Muslim freedom fighter?

  • 12 Maggie // Sep 12, 2006 at 9:22 am

    Jameson Lewis 3rd
    Does your computer have a “you’ve got Scott” voice responce to notify you of new posts on Scrappleface?

    I believe you are #1 for first posts.A virtual standing ‘O’ to you.

  • 13 Just Ranting // Sep 12, 2006 at 9:23 am

    I was pleasantly surprised by ABC’s “The Path to 9/11″. I heard a Dem complaining about how Albright (a misnomer if there ever was one) came off. She was more concerned about not putting a crimp in the Israeli/Palestinian peace negotiations than in bringing to justice those responsible for the deaths of American sailors on the USS Cole. The level of incompetence in the Clinton administration, from the Yemen ambassador to the Oval Office itself came through like a clarion.

    Several opportunities to capture or kill bin Laden were missed because of staff incompetence and/or major intelligence and military cutbacks.

    There was a scene where a predator drone spots bin Laden, and had the drone been equiped with munitions as they are now, he would have killed. There was no money budgeted to develop this capability. “It would take the cost from $3M to $7M per drone and would take too long to develop.”

    According to Tommy Franks autobiography, once the budget was allocated after 9/11 the American manufacturer went from blueprint to full scale production in less than six months.

    The stuff viewers saw was damning enough. You have to wonder what wound up on the cutting room floor after Slick Willy’s tantrum last week. I hope ABC replays the unedited version again on November 5 and 6, just before the mid-term elections. People need to remember just how much it costs us to have empty-headed liberals in positions of authority.

  • 14 Ms RightWing, Ink // Sep 12, 2006 at 9:26 am

    Kennedy, in a late night response on the floor of a cheap bar, said what happens in Baghdad stays in Baghdad and of course what happens under water in a Buick, stays under water in a Buick or better yet what happens in Chappaquiddick stays in Chappaquiddick

    MargeinMi

    That is why I keep the TV turned off, though I was sad when I remembered President Bush’s speech was being aired.

    I don’t want to blow a vessel or a group of vessels at my young tender age. (ha!)

  • 15 Rock Slatestone // Sep 12, 2006 at 9:31 am

    Great one Scott!

  • 16 Just Ranting // Sep 12, 2006 at 9:49 am

    MargeinMI,

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts on 9/11 this morning. I can only imagine how scary it was for you to patrol your station that night, and to be away from your son after this calamity. My wife and I brought our adopted Chinese daughter home through NY just 22 days before 9/11. She was only one year old then. We believed we had brought her to a place where she would be safe and secure. The terrorist made us wonder about that for a short while. But seeing the outpouring of compassion to NY and DC was reassuring. It seemed like no matter where you lived, we were all New Yorkers from then on. The people of this country have amazing resilience in the face of tradgedy. It is a birthrite provided to us by our forebearers who sacrificed to provide a better life for us, as we do for our children.

    As for Jamie Gorelick, her anger should be directed at her own Democratic party. It was their own legislation that prevented the FBI and CIA from sharing information. Sen. Corzine from NJ pushed through legislation that made it illegal for them to share information. It also prevented them from gathering human intelligence from people with criminal backgrounds. How could they infiltrate and gather incriminating information without dealing with criminals? It was ridiculous legislation which evolved from Clintons distrust of the military and the CIA. Thank God President Bush and the Republicans rescinded these idiotic and capricious laws. It is precisely because it was rescinded that we have been able to prevent future attacks. The most recent arrests in London would not have happened if information could not be shared among ours and allied intelligence gathering organizations.

  • 17 Libby Gone // Sep 12, 2006 at 9:57 am

    Funny,Scott,sir!
    Was the oxyMORON enjoying a tall glass of water at the time, or driving into a lake of bourbon?

  • 18 Darthmeister // Sep 12, 2006 at 10:08 am

    Ya just have to love how predictable the DemDonks are. If you dare counter their arguments about the Iraq War/War on Jihadism, they self-righteously thump their chests and bleat, “Don’t you dare question my patriotism.”

    And when the Bush Administration defends itself in a very non-partisan way, telling the American people about the nature and seriousness of the War on Jihadism, the DemDonks whine, “Bu$Hitler is politicizing the war.”

    I just hope the average American isn’t as stupid as these seditious DemDonks think they are.

  • 19 x4533 // Sep 12, 2006 at 10:17 am

    Great stuff, Scott!

    Here’s an article for your talents - http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/health/2003254679_longevity12.html

    How about something like “New study claims that 100% of people die at some point in their lives” … :)

  • 20 Darthmeister // Sep 12, 2006 at 10:21 am

    Just a thought.

    If it wasn’t so pathetic, it’s almost amusing when one considers the liberals have expressed such venom and outrage toward conservatives because they see us as messing up a perfectly good opportunity for them to develop friendships with Islamofascists.

    Ya just have to shake your head in wonderment at such a derangement. Reality-based community indeed.

  • 21 GrimmerReaper // Sep 12, 2006 at 10:38 am

    Great one as usual, Scott. Saw Garry Mauro on FoxNews this morning (former TX gubernatorial candidate that they always trot out for “fair and balanced” time) and he said that polls show that “Americans believe the strategy in Iraq isn’t working”, and that what the Dems are doing is simply calling for a new plan. Of course, what that is, his magic crystal ball didn’t say. He denied the “cut and run” accusation, but had no answer when Jon Scott told him that the Dems just don’t seem to offer anything but criticism.

    So from the donkey crowd, what we have is this: ………….. Hmm, works for me! Don’t we all feel safer now!?!

  • 22 JamesonLewis3rd // Sep 12, 2006 at 10:41 am

    The thing is (as was pointed out by, I think, Hume after the speech last night), everything out of President Bush’s mouth is inherently “political”-he is the leader of our country and head of the GOP, after all. But, that being said, his speech was not “political” in that he simply spelled out his policy.

    President Bush did not bash anybody, he called for unity, he called for all of us to come together against this major, unrelenting threat to civilization.

    On the other hand, it was that low-life scumbag, Kennedy, who was spewing vitriolic, political rhetoric while chastizing the President, who did no such thing.

    It’s all I can do to keep from flat-out HATING those people.

    I was proud of the President of the United States of America last night and I don’t see how anyone, except our enemies, could have heard anything different from what I heard.

    It must be boggling their (our enemies’) “minds” to see President Bush standing firm. I’m sure they keep expecting (from past experience) to see and hear a waffling coward but they’re seeing, instead, a REAL man doing what must be done.

  • 23 boberinagain // Sep 12, 2006 at 10:45 am

    In keeping with my reputation…

    “Good stuff Scott”!

    Good morning gang

  • 24 JamesonLewis3rd // Sep 12, 2006 at 10:47 am

    Why am I not surprised?

    Iran apparently has withdrawn its earlier offer to suspend uranium enrichment for an eight-week period to resolve the diplomatic standoff over its nuclear ambitions.

    I can hear the howls of derisive laughter from Iran all the way over here in TX.

  • 25 Darthmeister // Sep 12, 2006 at 11:01 am

    JL3. I guess the most accurate way to describe a Presidents effect on the nation is that whatever he says has political ramifications given our two party system, but he can choose to be either partisan or non-partisan.

    So when the DemDonks claim President Bush was “politicizing” 9/11, what they actually should have said (the lying, truly partisan morons that they are) is Bush was being “partisan”, which he clearly wasn’t.

  • 26 Darthmeister // Sep 12, 2006 at 11:04 am

    And you’re also right about Iran, it is playing the EU and UN like a Persian Stradivarius with respect to its growing nuclear program.

  • 27 JamesonLewis3rd // Sep 12, 2006 at 11:46 am

    RE: #24~~
    Darthmeister~~

    Yes, thank you. I could not, for the life of me, conjure the word “partisan” from the tip of my tongue.

    I hate it when that happens…..

    :shock:

  • 28 JamesonLewis3rd // Sep 12, 2006 at 11:52 am

    RE: #12~~
    Maggie~~

    Well, yes, actually I do-the RSS feed (both in a sidebar here in Firefox and in Thunderbird).

    Plus, it helps a lot that I don’t have a life…..

    :-D

  • 29 GnuCarSmell // Sep 12, 2006 at 12:06 pm

    By parodying the Democrats’ attacks on Bush, Scott reminds us that while Bush is fighting the terrorists, Democrats would rather fight Bush. Oh no! Did someone just question their patriotism?

    Meanwhile, Islamic fascists throughout the world pray five times daily for a Democrat sweep in November.

  • 30 Hawkeye // Sep 12, 2006 at 12:13 pm

    BAD Zawahiri! Bad dog! Bad dog!

  • 31 JamesonLewis3rd // Sep 12, 2006 at 12:47 pm

    Heh.

    President Bush slam-dunked Lauer in this portion of an interview shown this morning.

  • 32 Ms RightWing, Ink // Sep 12, 2006 at 12:49 pm

    There has been a slight revision to Shelly’s Cafe for REMEMBERING EILEEN MARSHA GREENSTEIN

    A picture was not found and now it is placed where it belongs plus a web site someone else already produced for her bio.

    You do not need to go there if you don’t feel the need too. I just wanted to bring dignity to a sloppy job

    http://shellyscafe.blogspot.com/

  • 33 JamesonLewis3rd // Sep 12, 2006 at 1:03 pm

    The American public has every right to ask hard questions about 9/11. And informed skepticism about government and media can be healthy. But skepticism needs to be based on facts, not fallacies. Unfortunately, for all too many, conspiratorial fantasies offer a seductive alternative to grappling with the hard realities of a post-9/11 world.” (emphasis mine)

    It’s called denial.

  • 34 Darthmeister // Sep 12, 2006 at 1:26 pm

    The AmericanThinker published this excellent commentary, The Moral Bankruptcy of the Left. Well worth the time to read.

    Sometimes there has to be some tough talk for tough times, particularly at this juncture in America’s war against jihadism.

  • 35 Darthmeister // Sep 12, 2006 at 1:27 pm

    …here postie, postie, postie! Oh, there it is.

  • 36 JamesonLewis3rd // Sep 12, 2006 at 1:51 pm

    “…..mewling, puking infants of the Left…..”
    :shock:
    That James Lewis (no relation) gets down to the nitty-gritty. He’s one of the best on The American Thinker.

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  • 38 da Bunny // Sep 12, 2006 at 3:05 pm

    Shouldn’t Kennedy’s liver be in a formaldehyde-filled jar by now? Talk about “mewling and puking…”

    GnuCarSmell, #28 sums it up quite accurately! :-)

  • 39 Dryden // Sep 12, 2006 at 3:36 pm

    Re #37: I would think that by now Kennedy’s entire body would suffice in the pickling category.

  • 40 Godfrey // Sep 12, 2006 at 4:04 pm

    “…..mewling, puking infants of the Left…..”

    Thanks to the Internet every idiot now has a bully pulpit. No wonder this country’s so divided.

    What ever happened to class?

  • 41 JamesonLewis3rd // Sep 12, 2006 at 5:13 pm

    From “As You Like It” (II, vii), known as the “Seven Ages of Man” speech:

    All the world’s a stage,
    And all the men and women merely players:
    They have their exits and their entrances;
    And one man in his time plays many parts,
    His acts being seven ages. At first the infant,
    Mewling and puking in the nurse’s arms.
    And then the whining school-boy, with his satchel
    And shining morning face, creeping like snail
    Unwillingly to school. And then the lover,
    Sighing like furnace, with a woeful ballad
    Made to his mistress’ eyebrow. Then a soldier,
    Full of strange oaths and bearded like the pard,
    Jealous in honour, sudden and quick in quarrel,
    Seeking the bubble reputation
    Even in the cannon’s mouth. And then the justice,
    In fair round belly with good capon lined,
    With eyes severe and beard of formal cut,
    Full of wise saws and modern instances;
    And so he plays his part. The sixth age shifts
    Into the lean and slipper’d pantaloon,
    With spectacles on nose and pouch on side,
    His youthful hose, well saved, a world too wide
    For his shrunk shank; and his big manly voice,
    Turning again toward childish treble, pipes
    And whistles in his sound. Last scene of all,
    That ends this strange eventful history,
    Is second childishness and mere oblivion,
    Sans teeth, sans eyes, sans taste, sans everything.

  • 42 Darthmeister // Sep 12, 2006 at 5:33 pm

    Godfrey, I think “class” went out the window shortly after the Wellstone memorial was turned into a pep rally.

    Though I wouldn’t have described these often seditious leftists (whose “arguments” against the war in Iraq have devolved to hyperbolic handwringing, outright misrepresentations of international laws and resolutions, and sometimes good ol’ fashion lies) in the same manner as the author, I think after five years of venomous and hateful leftist canards about Bush equalling Hitler and our American fighting men and women being little more than well-meaning pawns in a Halliburton war, the author can be forgiven for his obvious frustration with a bunch of self-righteous nattering nabobs who have yet to advance a viable alternative means of dealing with Islamofascism except for cutting-and-running or duck-and-cover isolationism.

    And speaking of running, how was that run-on sentence?

  • 43 JamesonLewis3rd // Sep 12, 2006 at 5:52 pm

    RE: #40~~

    It took me two breaths just to read it.
    :grin:

  • 44 Godfrey // Sep 12, 2006 at 5:55 pm

    Your point being… if Shakespeare said it it must not be crude and divisive?

  • 45 Beerme // Sep 12, 2006 at 6:35 pm

    Can’t get much classier than ol’ Bill, Godfrey.

    The Left has alot of this coming because, from as fair and non-partisan standpoint as I can muster, the moral bankruptcy of the Left is something remarkable and unbelieveable. From the moral equivalency argument surrounding the Hezbollah/Israel conflict to the partisan howling of Democrats willing to sell their country’s security for a majority in the Senate. This style of politics is new and entirely reprehensible. While I sometimes see weak versions of it coming from the Republican side of the aisle, it is mostly a Democrat “culture of concealment”.

  • 46 JamesonLewis3rd // Sep 12, 2006 at 6:36 pm

    :shock:
    Here’s a good laugh.
    :grin:

  • 47 myword // Sep 12, 2006 at 6:49 pm

    I admire that President Bush stays above the fray and sticks to his principals. He doesn’t deride or belittle the opposition. In fact, I think he stands ready to have a constructive exchange of ideas with them as soon as they get one.

    Waiting……Waiting……Waiting….oh, well. Sigh.

    Godfrey, due to the internet, Republicans now have a forum we to go to for information. I wouldn’t call that a “bully pulpit.” No one is being forced to read any of it, but personally am grateful for the opportunity to exchange ideas and learn. With all the bright minds out there, the chaff is quickly separated from the wheat to the benefit of all. Your posts are appreciated, Godfrey, along with the other contributors.

    Peace.

  • 48 myword // Sep 12, 2006 at 6:53 pm

    Try “we go to”

  • 49 JamesonLewis3rd // Sep 12, 2006 at 7:20 pm

    Wow. Those Germans. What pals.

  • 50 Darthmeister // Sep 12, 2006 at 7:23 pm

    Godfrey, the leftist have already taken this country beyond crude and divisive. What do you call a bunch of moonbats who applaud a film about the assassination of President Bush? Crude, divisive and barbarians in my book.

    Also New York state comptroller’s Alan Hevesi’s (D-Moon) remark that Sen. Charles Schumer (D-Moon) would put “a bullet between the president’s eyes, if he could get away with it” goes well beyond crude and divisive.

    Even that left-wing icon Cindy Sheehan has further moved the goalposts for crudity and divisive hatefulness by opining how she wished she could go back in time and murder George W. as a baby. There isn’t a Republican or true conservative in the land that has opined the same about Pelosi, sHrillary, Reid, Kennedy, Kerry, et al. Conservatives haven’t stooped anywhere near where the new mainstream of DemDonkdom now flows, though we aren’t above some rather ruff & tuff humor to further mock these partisan poltroons’ descent into corporate insanity.

    You do make a good point about Shakespeare’s own use of the English language, however. I’ll think about that one.

  • 51 JamesonLewis3rd // Sep 12, 2006 at 7:32 pm

    Look out…..I…..think…..I’m…..going to…..

  • 52 onlineanalyst // Sep 12, 2006 at 7:54 pm

    There he goes again: Old Tedster makes another “splash” of a headline.

    That Shakespeare fellow was a master in the word crafting, wasn’t he? Phenomenal.

    Captain Ed was invited to speak at a seminar on 9-11 about the Iraq war, where he was the only supportive voice for the liberation from Saddam Hussein. The thread about what he planned to say is probably still at his website. He offers a most succinct and compelling summary about why what the coalition had done was the right thing to do and why it was the right time to do it.

  • 53 onlineanalyst // Sep 12, 2006 at 8:07 pm

    Okay, I’ll save you the trouble: http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/008039.php#comments (Scroll back from the comments for Captain Ed’s opening remarks.)

  • 54 R.A.M. // Sep 12, 2006 at 8:24 pm

    There is also no connection between “Ted the Drunk”, and being a LAWmaker!

  • 55 JamesonLewis3rd // Sep 12, 2006 at 8:29 pm

    RE: #50-51~~

    Yes. I read that yesterday. Succinct and well articulated.

    And he didn’t use the word ____ once.

    :shock:

  • 56 Godfrey // Sep 12, 2006 at 8:46 pm

    Hank: response for you in the Katrina thread from the other day, btw.

    “the leftists have already taken this country beyond crude and divisive.”

    Believe me, I know. I don’t think, however, that that’s a good enough reason to lower oneself to the level of a Michael Moore or a Cindy Sheehan-or a Sean Hannity, for that matter. Once everyone debases themselves with name-calling it just becomes a schoolyard shouting match… two groups of monkeys hurling feces at each other from their respective trees. Where’s the value in that?

    Personally I also find that name-calling and meanness weakens whatever point was supposed to have been made. For an example of how to make a strong point in a classy and dignified fashion we need look no further than…well…up. I’m referring, of course, to Mr. Ott.

  • 57 RedPepper // Sep 12, 2006 at 10:54 pm

    #37 da Bunny: “Shouldn’t Kennedy’s liver be in a formaldehyde-filled jar by now?”

    Whatever for? after all, it’s perfectly preserved right now …

  • 58 Ms RightWing, Ink // Sep 13, 2006 at 12:02 am

    My cousin, Floyd, twice removed, owned one of them Zawahiris once. Said he traded a mule a two bags of seed corn fer it. Don’t doubt that he did. Reckon he were honest bout what he sed when he sed he were goin ta ride it ta Calyforny but somewheres not far from home he filled up the gas tank with earl and the earl tank with gasolean and it coughed up a hole bunch of black smoke and sputtered then blew up into a million pieces or so.

    He never did ever ride one of them thar 2 cyclers agin nor did he ever figur out where that bike were made, thinkin now it must have ben one of the al-kada bikes.

    Thats all I got ta say bout that. Pa were right, he should of rode that mule to calyforny then maybe he might of bin able to give his wife some chilldrun.

    With love as always
    Aunt Sarah

  • 59 PanamaRed // Sep 13, 2006 at 1:00 am

    Kennedy was just giving the “new kid” the old ‘new pledge’ hazing ritual. As soon as it’s over, Ted and Ayman will go out looking for 72 virgins. I will wager Ayman will be the designated driver for the night.

  • 60 Effeminem // Sep 13, 2006 at 2:59 am

    Monkeys hurling feces… monkeys hurling feces… why does that sound so familiar…

    Oh yeah, it’s an election year.

  • 61 Atilla_the_Hun // Sep 13, 2006 at 7:41 am

    Perhaps it was Zawahiri who was responsible for the Big Dig.

  • 62 Darthmeister // Sep 13, 2006 at 8:46 am

    Godfrey, I don’t understand the dynamic you are putting forth.

    You say “we don’t want to lower ourselves to their level” yet I’ve demonstrated how we haven’t come anywhere near “lowering ourselves to their level”. It’s not like we’re engage in a formal debate where ad homs are strictly verboten.

    This reminds me of what the libs claim regarding GITMO and Abu Ghraib. They claim we are lowering ourselves to the level of terrorists who behead and mutilate their prisoners by using proven methods of persuasion. Now I’m not talking about the loose cannons that gave us the Abu Ghraib homo-erotica art festival, I’m talking about various forms of non-lethal persuasion which apparently has led to information that has led to the capture or killing of more Islamofascists.

    I’m tired of these false moral equivalences. If we can’t call liberals suffering from BDS who have sullied themselves and the debate with outright lies about the Bush Administration, and in some extreme cases applaud an enactment of his assassination a bunch of “wusses”, “pussulanimous pouting pundits”, “conspriracy-driven moonbats”, “LLL Bush-bashers”, “mewling babies” and “puking juveniles”, then we removed one of our most effective weapons of shame … mockery. If the left wants to turn this into a Monty Python slugfest, then some (not all) conservatives will beat them at their own game. Besides, conservatives are infinitely more funny than deranged moonbats like Al Franken.

    Sometimes the most effective weapon against shameless partisan hacks like we’re seeing on the left is a good 2 x 4 upside the head - just what the donkey needs to get its attention.

    I agree, if one is involved in serious debate with someone who in turn is serious about the truth, then name-calling can be and often is counter-productive. But I’ve yet to see those left-wing whack jobs spewing their venom about government conspiracies to bring down the WTC on 9/11, blah, blah, blah … getting serious about anything other than their own misdirected moral outrage.

    Here’s more photo-journalistic proof of which I speak. These people aren’t deserving of a respectful rational argument (they wouldn’t hear it anyway) to help them escape their self-induced psychotic dementia. Let them live in the fantasy world of ivory towers and unicorns.

    After five years of putting up with their utter inanities and thinly-veiled lies about their “patriotism”, I’ve run out of patience with most anti-war hacks. These pathological liars deserve only scorn and derision. Maybe that will wake them up one day because rational arguments sure hasn’t proven to be the golden bullet in our own dealings with LLL trolls here.

  • 63 TouchyFeely // Sep 13, 2006 at 8:59 am

    Only in the democratic party would a president talking about national unity be percieved as a political speech.

    The only reason Kennedy gets elected is because, like every other senator, he brings home the big bacon, and in America, our leaders know that every cent they spend is met with a kickback contribution. These people make so many millions spending our money, that it takes another billionaire to unseat them.

    Fortunately, the Dems are just hurting themselves.

  • 64 Ms RightWing, Ink // Sep 13, 2006 at 9:19 am

    Put up your umbrellas, since this rainy good morning

  • 65 Ms RightWing, Ink // Sep 13, 2006 at 9:20 am

    no, no, erase that. Since this IS a rainy good morning

  • 66 Maggie // Sep 13, 2006 at 9:27 am

    Good morning everybody.

    I’m sure you Scrapplers have heard or read by now that our so-called rules of engagement prevented our military from taking out high ranking Taliban leaders attending a funeral in Afghanistan.These snakes were allowed to slither back into their holes only to emerge at a later date to slaughter our men and women of the military.

    It is so sad to learn our brave soldiers are in the hands of a “ship of fools”.Almost makes me want to become a Democrat…………Naw.(talk about your ship of fools)

  • 67 Darthmeister // Sep 13, 2006 at 9:50 am

    What to ask your “donkey-minded” friends in this Blame Game piece.

    The one question I’ve actually used on one of my “progressyve-minded” friends is why it is when taxes get too high in liberal run municipalities, that those responsible for voting the liberal mayor and city council in power are the first ones to complain about high taxes and then seek to export their liberal taxing policies to other communities by moving there. You know, why do liberal Californians leave high-tax California to settle somewhere else like in Podunk, Montana to start the viscious cycle of ever increasing taxation-for-services cycle all over again?

    Say libs, do the rest of us Americans a favor keep your own fiscal diseases and causes to yourselves in you urban utopia … like the one which existed in pre-Katarina New Orleans.

  • 68 Maggie // Sep 13, 2006 at 10:02 am

    Rant mode still on…….I just read on Drudge that Keith Ellison,Muslim convert,won the Democrat primary in Minneapolis.(sorry,but I can’t do the link thing)

    Also….. Chaffee got the last Laffey.

    JL3rd…….God bless America and God HELP America.

  • 69 JamesonLewis3rd // Sep 13, 2006 at 10:04 am

    RE: #66~~

    I saw that alleged recon photo this morning on FOX. I found it disturbing, to say the least.

    I’m saying “alleged,” however, because there is absolutely nothing on the Internet on this story.

    I searched Afghanistan Funeral and Taliban Funeral and got zero relevant hits from either Google or Yahoo!. I also searched the FOXNews site and found nothing.

    I can’t remember the paper they were holding up to the camera.

    It seems like a story such as this would be all over the place.

  • 70 nylecoj // Sep 13, 2006 at 10:15 am

    re #66 & 69 I did not see Fox and Friends this morning but I just read that it was reported there.

  • 71 Maggie // Sep 13, 2006 at 10:17 am

    JL3rd……..It is the top story on Fox news channel.
    (so it must be true ……..right???) :>)

  • 72 JamesonLewis3rd // Sep 13, 2006 at 10:19 am

    Here it is in the NY Post.

  • 73 Maggie // Sep 13, 2006 at 10:22 am

    Good morning Jocelyn (nylecoj backwards)

  • 74 mig // Sep 13, 2006 at 10:51 am

    Delay delay delay.
    Again again again
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060913/ap_on_re_us/delay_indictment

  • 75 da Bunny // Sep 13, 2006 at 11:36 am

    #57 RedPepper, my point was, after all the self-abuse Kennedy has engaged in, why is he still alive to be making his assinine comments on the floor of the U S Senate? Hasn’t this cretin ruined enough lives by his very existence on this planet? [ie: Mary Jo Kopchne, his ex-wife, Joan, and wasn't he a fine example of man/fatherhood for his son, Patrick?...just to name a few] Thanks to the people of the state of Massachussetts, this pathetic blob still has his “bully pulpit.” He and “Sheets” Byrd are the best examples in existence of why we should have term limits. :sad:

  • 76 Jericho // Sep 13, 2006 at 12:35 pm

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060912/pl_nm/sept11_bush_dc_3

    Bush to Bin Laden: “American will find you.”

    Unless of course you spend all your time hanging out at Taliban funerals.

    http://www.nypost.com/news/worldnews/taliban_gets_bury_lucky_worldnews_ian_bishop.htm

    What a bunch of kittens we Americans have become.

  • 77 Jericho // Sep 13, 2006 at 12:38 pm

    We are likely to be hit hard inside America before the end of the month. Not that we are at war or anything. Go back to sleep.

  • 78 Jericho // Sep 13, 2006 at 12:42 pm

    The GOP open borders candidate lost big in the Arizona 8th to the anti-illegal candidate (seal the border and no safe harbor were his planks).

    Time to buy a vowel GOP. You don’t have a clue. The electore will be revealing the puzzle to you come November.

  • 79 Jericho // Sep 13, 2006 at 12:44 pm

    GOP

    The G stands for grow spending (16% under President Bush)

    The O stands for open borders

    The P stands for being #ussies in the war.

  • 80 Jericho // Sep 13, 2006 at 12:49 pm

    James Baker is looking on behalf of our Dunce in Chief for an exit strategy in Iraq.

    General McClellan is looking for an exit stategy from the South.

    General Arnold is hoping his work on behalf of the British will help him achieve an exit strategy in the War for Independence.

  • 81 Jericho // Sep 13, 2006 at 12:51 pm

    General Washington is looking for decisive victory over the British.

    General Patton seeks to demolish the Nazis.

    General Grant hopes to bleed the South.

    Admiral Nimitz will destroy the Japanese Imperial Fleet.

    General McCarthur will overwhelm the Japanese.

    We are looking for an exit strategy in Iraq.

    Kittens!

  • 82 Jericho // Sep 13, 2006 at 12:54 pm

    We can’t kill a bunch of Taliban gathered at a funeral for a Taliban leader who killed Americans?

    Our leaders are whimps!!!

    Keep your powder dry. You are likely to need it.

  • 83 Darthmeister // Sep 13, 2006 at 12:57 pm

    I think the most striking thing the movie “The Path to 9/11″ was the Democratic and Republican responses.

    Republican response…none. And surely there were scripted conversations which did not occur between Cheney, Condoleeza, et al. BTW, what was with the bug-eyed actor who played Cheney? Other than that Cheney actually came off looking presidential, decisive and intuitively aware of who the real enemies of this country were and are.

    Now for the Democratic response…threats of lawsuits, demands to re-edit the movie, demands to not show the movie, a veiled threat by DemDonk Congresscritters about the potential of pulling ABC’s broadcast license (In best Foghorn Leghorn voice: Oh, now waaaait a minute there son, we never explicitly threatened aaaaaanybody!)

    Now who acted more like fascists? And this the party that hypocritically applauded Michael Mooron’s “Farcin’hype 911″ and now the latest liberal Democrat supported snuff film, “Death of a President.” It was disgusting, loathesome creatures who applauded this despicable film in Toronto. Another reason why sane Americans still sitting on the fence won’t be voting Democrat this November.

  • 84 Darthmeister // Sep 13, 2006 at 1:39 pm

    In response to the conspiracy theories about the Bu$Hitler regime blowing up the Twin Towers in order to justify a war with Arabs so Amerikkka can steal all their oil, Jim Meigs and David Dumbar of Popular Mechanics debate the tinfoil hat crowd here at PBS. Unfreakin’believable.

    I’m losing my patience with these self-aggrandizing Bush-hating morons, too.

  • 85 Darthmeister // Sep 13, 2006 at 1:40 pm

    …beam me up Mr. Scott, no intelligent life here on planet DemoDonk.

  • 86 Darthmeister // Sep 13, 2006 at 2:06 pm

    Another left-wing, fifth columnist mole in the CIA has been proven to be a liar in his criticisms of President Bush. Of course the lamestream media won’t admit to this after spreading his lying filth around. Story here.

    How’s that saying go: I lie can make it around the world before truth even gets out of bed.

    And the liberals know this to be true. I still remember a liberal hack who called into our local radio show spewing his venom about wanting to see Karl Rove frogged-marched out of the White House yada, yada, yada. When challenged how did he know Rove was the leaker and that Valerie Plame was actually “outed” when there is question about her deep cover status with the CIA, this brain-dead moonbat said it was true because when he googled Rove and Valerie Plame’s name he got something like 8,000,000 hits.

    I called in and reminded him, “A lie told 8 million times doesn’t magically become the truth” and something wasn’t adding up with Fitzgerald’s investigations. And guess who turned out to be right in the end … no thanks to Mr. Armitage?

  • 87 Maggie // Sep 13, 2006 at 2:16 pm

    Hello ‘da Bunny….re#75…..don’t you mean the “belly pulpit”?

  • 88 Shelly // Sep 13, 2006 at 2:23 pm

    Darth, thanks for the link. Yet another one bites the dust. I’m sure the New York DNC Times will stop the presses.

    Imagine if we had fired on the funeral. Libs would rant hysterically about targeting (dead) “civilians.”

  • 89 da Bunny // Sep 13, 2006 at 2:44 pm

    Yes, Maggie, the “belly pulpit” it is!!! :lol:

  • 90 Darthmeister // Sep 13, 2006 at 2:54 pm

    Shelly,

    Yeah, DemDonks don’t mind using cemetaries as repositories for their future voting bloc, but fire on a bunch of murderous Taliban thugs in a cemetary filled with dead Taliban thugs and all we’d hear until November is how America “is stooping to their level.” Sound familiar?

    But of course we’re now going to hear these contrarian DemDonks railing about how the Bush Administration really isn’t serious about the war on terror because our armed forces let some bad guys get away due to certain rules of engagement. Bwuahahahahahaha. Typical Dim MO.

    Oh, and Congress had better mount another investigation into this story, and if it’s true then Bush must be impeached for dereliction of duty.

  • 91 Shelly // Sep 13, 2006 at 3:01 pm

    Speaking of Dereliction of Duty (I know that should be italicized) anyone read the book? It’s phenomenal.

  • 92 GnuCarSmell // Sep 13, 2006 at 3:45 pm

    TEXARKANA (AP) The city’s annual festival was marred by dead pigeons nose-diving into pavement ….

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/D/DEAD_PIGEONS?SITE=CAACS&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

    Not that there’s any connection, but Texarkana is Ross Perot’s home-town.

  • 93 JamesonLewis3rd // Sep 13, 2006 at 4:09 pm

    RE: #92~~

    See #46

    :grin:

  • 94 GnuCarSmell // Sep 13, 2006 at 4:33 pm

    JL3 - You wonder if the Geneva Conventions were violated? Those poor, poor pigeons. That poor, poor customer ….

  • 95 Darthmeister // Sep 13, 2006 at 5:08 pm

    AIR AMERICA FILES BANKRUPTCY, BUT PROGRESSIVE RADIO REMAINS STRONG.

    Buwhahahahahahahahaha! Again, lib radio in a total state of denial. They can’t make it in a truly competitive world where the real cream rises to the top and gets rewarded.

    Airhead America files bankruptcy! You can’t make this stuff up!

    BTW, we miss you SGT USMC and Dr. Harden Stuhl.

  • 96 Maggie // Sep 13, 2006 at 5:50 pm

    ‘da Bunny……..”Teddy the Tuba” is always blowing hot air out of his ………..mouth…….

    Darth…… re#95…..
    Who is Dr.Harden Stuhl??

  • 97 Godfrey // Sep 13, 2006 at 6:09 pm

    Hank: “I’m tired of these false moral equivalences.”

    Fair enough. But doesn’t it also promote a certain sort of “equivalence” for us to allow the fringe elements on both sides to frame the terms of the debate by allowing the level of our rhetoric to sink to the level of theirs?

    Mainstream Democrats are political opposition, not the enemy (and please skip the part about them aiding and abetting the enemy…they say the same thing about Republicans. That sort of rhetoric is exactly the problem).

    The “discussion” in recent years has become little more than conservatives and liberals conducting spin attacks on each other; each side lying (through selective truth-telling) about the other. The American discourse used to be about ideas and the future. Now the conversation on both sides is mostly about how rotten “They” are.

    I think we owe it to our country to contribute to that mindset as little as possible.

  • 98 nylecoj // Sep 13, 2006 at 6:14 pm

    Good afternoon Maggie.
    Belly pulpit, that was funny!

  • 99 Jericho // Sep 13, 2006 at 6:46 pm

    http://jewishworldreview.com/mort/zuckerman091306.php3

    Another legacy of Al Gore and the Powercrats.

  • 100 Darthmeister // Sep 13, 2006 at 9:02 pm

    So, Godfrey, with all your sensitive and compelling arguments, how many of the lunatic fringe have you converted to conservatism in the last five years? How many of the more “moderate” anti-war Democrats? Not trying to be snotty, just really wanted to know the efficacy of not “allowing the level of our rhetoric to sink to the level of theirs.”

    Oooo, ooo, there’s that false moral equivalence again … not “allowing the level of rhetoric to sink to the level of theirs.” Still can’t help but throw that out there again. **friendly ribbing**

    Don’t forget, Godfrey, this is a parody site. Sarcasm, and sometimes caustic sarcasm has its place. This isn’t the high school debate club, though I would be more happy to engage in such if those on the other side of the aisle would so constrain themselves and not resort to mind-numbing conspiracy theories and cleverly disguised hate-Bush/anti-America propaganda.

    But your point is well taken. However, it’s been my experience that the average LLL troll that comes on this site will: A) immediately resort to ad homs and insult our intelligence, or B) pretend to engage in an honest debate and when cornered with facts and counter-arguments … resort to ad homs. **yawn**

  • 101 Fred Sinclair // Sep 13, 2006 at 11:17 pm

    Speaking of Dereliction of Duty (I know that should be italicized) anyone read the book? It’s phenomenal.

    Comment by Shelly — September 13, 2006 @ 3:01 pm

    Speaking of Dereliction of Duty - Scott Ott has extended an opportunity for us Scrapplers to pitch in and help. Considering what we have gotten from Scott’s efforts, I see where our opportunity is in fact a duty to help keep this venue alive.

    Personally I have nothing but my SS cheque each month but I have learned how to use “PayPal” to “do my duty”. I can’t give hundreds or thousands of dollars - but $25.00 a month is less than a dollar a day! With the current price of coffee and gas can any of us realistically do less?

    Fred Sinclair, Heirborn Ranger

  • 102 RedPepper // Sep 13, 2006 at 11:27 pm

    Evening, Fred! Nice to see that someone else is awake!

    FYI : “Former Gov. Ann Richards … died Wednesday night after a battle with cancer … ”

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060914/ap_on_re_us/obit_richards

  • 103 JamesonLewis3rd // Sep 14, 2006 at 12:26 am

    Ramadan starts in about 10 days. I haven’t heard much chatter about it, but here’s some:

    http://hotair.com/archives/2006/09/12/report-al-qaeda-planning-nuke-attack-for-ramadan/

    http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2006/09/alqaeda_and_the.html

    As an aside:
    I don’t see how the Red Hot Chili Peppers is torture-disco from the late 70’s, now THAT’S torture…..
    :shock:

  • 104 R.A.M. // Sep 14, 2006 at 2:06 am

    JL3: Minnie Riperton’s, “Loving You”, or “Muskrat Love”, (whoever it was by), would be more torture than the “Peppers”!

    BTW, would the libs consider it torture, to tell the terrorists, that the cook there had added pork fat to their food, EVEN IF it were not true?

    I think I already know the answer to that!

  • 105 vittles scooper // Sep 14, 2006 at 4:00 am

    Some of these posters were in the towers and got out alive to tell their stories. Sorry but I can’t hyperlink:

    http://1010wins.com/pages/76260.php?contentType=4&contentId=197259

  • 106 JamesonLewis3rd // Sep 14, 2006 at 7:52 am

    I think it would be an interesting experiment to have a few hundred drones circling Havanna with Rick Dees’ “Disco Duck” blaring full blast during this event and “accidently” dropping some cannisters of amyl nitrate disguised as twirling, mirror-encrusted balls.

  • 107 MargeinMI // Sep 14, 2006 at 9:13 am

    Morning all!

    JL3, Great IMAO link. Thanks for the morning belly laugh.

    Maggie, Dr. Harden Stuhl was a regular poster here, but hasn’t been around in quite a while. We miss his wit.

    Muskrat Love: The Captain and Tenille.

    Minnie Ripton’s ‘Loving You’ is to music as fingernails are to a blackboard. [shudder]

    Nice to ’see’ you, Shelly!

  • 108 conserve-a-tip // Sep 14, 2006 at 9:21 am

    Good morning all. Preparing for the all-American pasttime - a garage sale!!! Oh joy, oh rapture. There is so much work in one of these things but the anticipation of cleaning house and getting money for it (oh yeah, that’s already an occupation isn’t it?) is heady. Y’all are welcome to come by and take a look-see. I am sure that I have SOMETHING that you can’t do without.

    James and R.A.M, I vote for Ricky Martin’s Livin’ La Vida Loca - yuck.

    Anybody see Novak on Fox this morning? There is something really fishy about that Plame investigation.

  • 109 Ms RightWing, Ink // Sep 14, 2006 at 9:22 am

    Good Morning

    Harden Stool ran off with Miss Spelling and they are renting a condo from Miss Crabtree.

    Aunt Sarah told me and if Aunt Sarah sez it so, well it is so.

    And just what is wrong with Muskie Love??? Huh, huh??

  • 110 conserve-a-tip // Sep 14, 2006 at 9:25 am

    Oh, and I forgot to add that with Livin’ La Vida Loca they have to show it in video format so that Martin’s gyrating body is flashed incessantly in front of them.

    Ms Rightwing, Ink - I am afraid that I have to go with them on that rat love thing. It’s the little happy squeaky sounds and tittering in the background that just clinches it.

  • 111 Shelly // Sep 14, 2006 at 9:34 am

    Marge, nice to “see” you too!

    RE: 97 ~ Bush wants to surveil suspected terrorists, Dems say no; Bush wants to coerce captured terrorists to prevent further murders, Dems (including McCain) say no; Bush wants to try captured foreign killers as non-Americans, Dems say no. Dems say our troops are murdering innocent civilians in cold blood and terrorizing women and children at night. Dems say we can’t win in Iraq and should surrender, either immediately or at some arbitrary point in the future. Why are we starting a discussion by dismissing their tendencies to aid and abet the enemy? Especially when their answer is to go to the UN?!?!? Kofi Annan is Chief Aider and Abetter, condemning Israel and never Hezbollah. Pointing out what they actually say and stand for is not stooping to their level. It is identifying their level, which is quite low.

  • 112 JamesonLewis3rd // Sep 14, 2006 at 9:37 am

    African Herders Take Care of America’s 9/11 Cattle

  • 113 MargeinMI // Sep 14, 2006 at 9:42 am

    c-a-t, Garage Sale: A Tale of Caution…….

    My best friend, after 3 years of moving out, moving in, moving out, moving in, divorce, storage for friends (she has several barns), etc., she’d been saying all summer how she was going to have a garage sale, of course, catastrophe happened.

    She had bought a used fridge from another neighbor who was moving out of state. Had another friend hook up the water line for the ice-maker (I don’t do plumbing unless ABSOLUTELY necessary). Well the line broke and flooded her basement about 8 inches. Clothes, furniture, drapes, etc, etc, etc-out to the road or the burn pit. Oh, yeah, I hear cutting the sleeper sofa in half with a sawzall was fun.

    The moral of the story: Don’t put off til tomorrow what you should have done yesterday.

    Good for you!

    May the sun shine upon you and your traffic be heavy.

    :>)

  • 114 Darthmeister // Sep 14, 2006 at 9:44 am

    Had an interesting “debate” with a liberal yesterday. He was angry that us “neo-cons” kept referring to John Kerry’s and John Murtha’s proposal to “redeploy” from Iraq as “cut-and-run” since this would be a “phased redeployment” over a year’s time.

    I patiently pointed out that is precisely what it is, cut-and-run, whether it takes one month or one year. I reminded him America cut-and-ran in Vietnam and looked what happened there, re-education camps, the slaughter of those who wouldn’t bow the knee to communism, and the flight of hundreds of thousands of South Vietnamese, sometimes as boat people. And America’s cut-and-running in Vietnam took two years - from 1973-75!

    Apparently this bozo couldn’t make the distinction between “immediately withdrawal” and “cut-and-running”. Shows you how truly “open-minded” these intellectual giants are when it comes to defending their bankrupt political agenda … NOT!

  • 115 MargeinMI // Sep 14, 2006 at 9:56 am

    Epilogue

    The basement’s empty and clean now.

    I just now learned she just had contact this morning with an old work buddy from her waitressing days. This woman just escaped a physically abusive relationship and is currently living in a ’shelter.’ (The woman on the lower bunk from her was just released by the police for stabbing her mother.)

    My friend is in need of a reliable roommate.

    I’m really good at emotional support.

    Don’t you just love that sweet, sweet smell of fresh air when He opens a window?

  • 116 MargeinMI // Sep 14, 2006 at 9:58 am

    Oh, as if I need even ask, prayers for her healing and strength, please.

    I love sharing at this place.

  • 117 Maggie // Sep 14, 2006 at 10:08 am

    Marge….Good Morning

    I googled and Yahooed Dr Harden Stuhl and it always came up Villainous Company(blog).After reading several posts and comment sections Stuhl’s name did not appear
    but………many AWOL Scrapplers posted comments such as Math Mom,A former european and also many current SF regulars. Why wouldn’t Dr Stulh’s name appear?

    C.A.T….after the yard sale,you will probably donate the unsold items so take the time to put a value on these donations for IRS deductions.There is a website that will give you values for the items and it will surprise you how much is allowed but I don’t know it…..Duh….

  • 118 conserve-a-tip // Sep 14, 2006 at 10:22 am

    Marge, thanks for the story and the blessing. Fortunately, I don’t have a basement - only a garage - they don’t know how to build basements in Okie country - but considering that I had everything boxed up at the time the fire swept over our property, just missing the house, you might have been telling a second story along with that one!! I think that I am going to make a sign of that blessing and hang it over the porch for our “buyers” to see. :-)

    Maggie, thanks for the IRS reminder. Since I am posting Marge’s blessing, I am fully anticipating not having a thing left to haul to the Salvation Army. Right! Last time I did a garage sale was 10 years ago and I made $600. I am hoping to do at least that (as I have more stuff) to replace our entertainment center, cake pans and comforter for our antique bed AND POSSIBLY help pay for the 1906 wood burning cook stove that I just bought. I have always wanted one and this is sage green enamel with all of the chrome on the feet, handles, trim, etc. It has the warming oven up top and the firebox and water resevoir look almost new. It is totally functional. Soooo, the long and the short of this is that I need to sell this stuff! Come on by!

  • 119 red satellites // Sep 14, 2006 at 10:48 am

    Good morning Scrapplers!

    Another fine day here in the land of demo-bats and hackers for Phil Angelides.

  • 120 Maggie // Sep 14, 2006 at 11:00 am

    red satellites

    Loved your blog today and would encourage others to give it a read….short and sweet and funny :>)

    (great talent in, as you often say, LA LA Land Cal.)

  • 121 red satellites // Sep 14, 2006 at 11:11 am

    Thanks Maggie…you’re too kind.

  • 122 Ms RightWing, Ink // Sep 14, 2006 at 11:14 am

    A wood burning cook stove! Conserve-a-tip, I am sooo jealous. I had several makes and models over the years in my Minnesota back-to-nature days. I always a tell my friends that if I won a lottery I would build a western style ranch house and the kitchen would have a wood cook stove hands down. One side gourmet, the other side rugged and useful. sigh

    You can still buy a new cook stove from Lehmans Hardware in Kidron, Ohio. It is an Amish hardware store that got a lot of attention in the new millennium crisis of 2000. (Y2K). They are built to original specs but cost some big $$$’s

    Well off to my 2nd chemo treatment to cure my MS (ha!). I only do this every few months but it lasts 2 years. Hair is thinning out real bad and this treatment will likely be the one that leaves me looking like a chrome dome.

    repeat sigh x 4

  • 123 Jericho // Sep 14, 2006 at 11:20 am

    Senator Warner yesterday in clarifying why he opposes White House plans to prosecute terrorists stated that he was concerned that the White House desires if passed would potentially put U.S. troops at risk if others retaliate.

    Yep, Senator we surely don’t want US prisoners put at risk of say having their eyes gouged out, their genitals cut off and shoved in their mouths just prior to having their throats slit as happened to our two captured men earlier this year. What an idiot Warner is. Or a coward. Or both.

    The best consequence in this election is that the Senate Chairman actually have D’s next to their name instead of these fake R’s. More likely is the the R’s will lose the House the Senators being much closer to the permanent employment that House members are also working towards.

    Fools and cowards.

  • 124 Ms RightWing, Ink // Sep 14, 2006 at 11:20 am

    Oh, by the way if you want to buy a new stove, oil lamp or fly paper

    http://www.lehmans.com -

  • 125 Just Ranting // Sep 14, 2006 at 11:21 am

    Darth re:114,

    Our military is still deployed in Europe 60 plus years after the 2nd War to End All Wars. The Soviet Union is no more, and is no real threat to Western Europe. You never hear Dems whine to bring those troops back to the US. Our military ought not to be used as financial props for bloated leftist European governments like Germany.

    Bush needs to get serious about winning this war in Iraq. If it means deploying more special forces troops to clean out the insurgent pockets, let’s do it and hand over the job of maintaining the country’s security to the Iraqis. We can still offer military assistance and financial aid as we do in Japan, Germany, South Korea et al. We can even utilize special forces for incursions into pockets of resistance once the major fighting and mop up is done. We need to stop hamstringing our military with rules of engagement that prevents them from getting as nasty as those who would kill them (or us).

    I think our troops have done a great job in Afghanistan recently. Nearly 500 Taliban dead since Sept 1. Like the old joke says about 5000 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean…it’s a real good start.

  • 126 Just Ranting // Sep 14, 2006 at 11:25 am

    Conserve-a-Tip re: 118

    Have you considered using EBay to sell some of your items. You may get better bucks by showing your stuff to a larger buying group than a garage sale would offer, especially any collectible stuff. Just a thought.

  • 127 Darthmeister // Sep 14, 2006 at 11:48 am

    Just Ranting,

    Can’t disagree with a word you said. I wonder what would have happened in German, France and most of Europe if America had cut-and-run after the end of major combat operations in the European theater? I bet the Russians would have walked right in just as the Iranian Shias would have walked right into Iraq and slaughtered the Sunnis and Kurds.

    People in my community have expressed their outrage on our local talk radio program with the stupid rule-of-engagement which didn’t allow our troops to fire upon known Taliban militants in a cemetery. I mean, given the Islamofascist rhetoric about the blissful wonder of 72 virgins in paradise, one would think we would be doing them a favor killing them, particularly in a cemetery. Go figure, I thought we were at war with the Taliban. I wonder what other no-kill zones we have after mosques and cemeteries.

  • 128 Jericho // Sep 14, 2006 at 12:41 pm

    Maybe the Taliban were meeting in the cemetary instead of burying some body. If they weren’t doing it then they will surely start doing it now. Stupid Generals only worried about their own Br(ass).

  • 129 tomg // Sep 14, 2006 at 1:47 pm

    Politics : Political
    Religion : Religious
    Teddy : Tedious

  • 130 Maggie // Sep 14, 2006 at 1:52 pm

    Ms Righty
    My stove is versatile….it burns everything.

  • 131 Maggie // Sep 14, 2006 at 1:55 pm

    Jericho…..where ya been lately?

    tomg….re#129……cute :>)

  • 132 The Great Santini // Sep 14, 2006 at 3:31 pm

    ♪ ♪ ♪ SLIMEBALL SLUGS ♪ ♪ ♪

    [Tune: “All Shook Up”, music and lyrics by Otis Blackwell, performed by Elvis Presley;
    (© 2006, Santini Serenades)]

    [Verse]
    Oh, wellah, Ted’s blowhole is on a rantin’ spree
    Orca Chappaquiddickus slams Zawahiri
    They’re kindred spirits, like two turtle doves
    They’re whacked out…
    They’re Slimeball Slugs
    Mm-mm-mm, mm-mm
    Yay-yay…yeah

    [Verse]
    Their brains are flaky, and they’re filled with pique
    Sedition monkey and jihadi freak
    What can you say about such quackin’ ducks?
    They’re whacked out…
    They’re Slimeball Slugs
    Mm-mm-mm, mm-mm
    Yay-yay…yeah

    [Bridge]
    Well, please don’t ask ‘em if they’ve got minds
    Those’re hidden by Hanes™, so they’re hard to find
    When yammering screeds, what they do best
    Their karma’s so bad, they need the Rorschach test

    [Verse]
    Zawahiri craves death just like his camel’s butt
    Doctrinaire caveman does Al Qaeda strut
    Well-aimed daisycutter, put him in an egg cup
    Insh’allah
    He’s all pieced up
    Mm-mm-mm, mm-mm
    Yippee-kai-yay

    [Bridge]
    Orca’s tongue thickens when he tries to speak
    Happy hour moonshine turns his talk to Greek
    There’s only one cure for his body and mind
    The see-food buffet and the Dems’ party line

    [Verse]
    He pawed his hip flask, oh, what a thrill he got
    A swig of schnapps makes Orca’s blood run hot
    Appeasin’ Zawahiri’s all part of the plot
    Orca’s blitzed…
    He’s all scotched up
    Mm-mm-mm, mm-mm
    Bray, bray…bray

    [Tag]
    Flipso…and Dipso
    Yay-yay…
    They’re Slimeball Slugs!

  • 133 Shelly // Sep 14, 2006 at 4:01 pm

    Curiously, my computer is telling me that I am “Logged in as mig.”

  • 134 JamesonLewis3rd // Sep 14, 2006 at 4:29 pm

    You’re lucky-mine says I’m logged in as JamesonLewis3rd…..
    :shock:

  • 135 Ms RightWing, Ink // Sep 14, 2006 at 5:17 pm

    Back from hospital and pumped full of poison. Peeing blue (can I say that) from the yumpin yimminee yuice.

    maggie re:130 You crack me up

    New article due in this evening at the cafe.

  • 136 Maggie // Sep 14, 2006 at 6:08 pm

    Santini,

    May I present you with the coveted ‘Granny’ award for another outstanding parody.

  • 137 The Great Santini // Sep 14, 2006 at 6:47 pm

    Maggie:

    I humbly accept. I shall cherish my “Granny” always.
    Eat your heart out, Beastie Boys! Mu-wah-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!

    §[:-)]

  • 138 JamesonLewis3rd // Sep 14, 2006 at 7:29 pm

    President Bush should not have permitted capitulation to the enemy sympathizers and promoted captured Terrorists to Prisoners of War. The idea that this will work as PR and, somehow, convince the murderous psychopathic vermin to play nice, is beyond ridiculous.

    This whole Geneva Convention debate is making me want to, um, er, freak out…..

  • 139 Beerme // Sep 14, 2006 at 7:56 pm

    Selected rambling responses:

    My Uncle Kermit was from Texarkana, too (by way of Breaks-shout out to Maggie!).

    Hey, I actually liked Muskrat Love!

    Godfrey, Of course you’re right. There is a great need for more “get along” in this country. You won’t get much of it from an echo-chamber and- for right or wrong-any politically motivated blog is going to be an echo-chamber for the members to sound off on. Really, this one is remarkably sane, classy and reasonable…

    I don’t think Dr. Stuhl has been a poster on this site since Ranbutan left in a huff after GWB’s last win (oops, I said his name!).

    And Santini, another fine job! (”see-food buffet! Ha!) If I could, I’d send you one of my white Cadillacs! I’ll toast you with a fine homebrew, though…

  • 140 camojack // Sep 14, 2006 at 8:25 pm

    Re: “Muskrat Love”…the original version, by the group “America” was OK by me. However, the “Captain and Tenille” version (as with most remakes) was horrendous.

    Especially because of those stupid electronic simulated muskrat squeaks, IM[NS]HO…

  • 141 Ms RightWing, Ink // Sep 14, 2006 at 9:20 pm

    COWS FOR MILKIN’ AND COWS FOR RHYMIN’

    http://shellyscafe.blogspot.com/

  • 142 Darthmeister // Sep 14, 2006 at 9:23 pm

    R-A-N-B-U-T-A-N!

    Yeeeeaaaaaarrrggggghhhh! ***Running with hands over ears***

    You would have to bring that name up, Beerme. As one Zionist dupe to another, tinfoil hats were starting to look pretty inviting after swapping posts with that troll. I really hate it … okay, intensely dislike it … when a person tries to come across as an “open-minded” progressive thinker but then only spews the pre-processed propaganda of the radical left revisionists when pushed into a corner. I can’t remember how many times we busted him on an issue with counter-documentation yet he continued blithely on with his spew. I guess he’s getting a refresher course on how to more effectively debate Scrapplers … or maybe he’s working with one of those 9/11 “truther” organizations which believe the Twin Towers were brought down by a government conspiracy.

  • 143 Darthmeister // Sep 14, 2006 at 9:54 pm

    More headline news:

    Pope Announces Jihad Violence Is Against God’s Nature

    In response Muslims threaten violence against those who don’t believe Islam is the religion of peace.

    Controversial New Study: Men are more intelligent than women…
    Certainly not here at Scrappleface. Study must have had an over-representation of liberal women.

    GAS PRICES COULD GO TO $1.15 A GALLON?
    This will be very bad for the environment … not to mention their election chances in November

    Republican Rebellion: Senate Panel Defies Bush on Terror…
    Putting Senate Unity Before the Security of America.

  • 144 Maggie // Sep 14, 2006 at 10:16 pm

    Beerme,

    I also loved Muskrat Love by the Capt. and Tenille.Must be the mountain air in the Breaks.

  • 145 upnorthlurkin // Sep 14, 2006 at 10:36 pm

    Hooray, Santini! You are such a hoot!! You and our anchor/editor Scott could team up and make a killing!!
    Thanks to you both for your generous sharing of your tremendous talents! :cool:

  • 146 upnorthlurkin // Sep 14, 2006 at 10:38 pm

    Wow! I posted that last one, it was still daylight!! Must have taken the milk train!

  • 147 upnorthlurkin // Sep 14, 2006 at 10:40 pm

    Should’ve been a “when” at the front of that first sentence…

  • 148 conserve-a-tip // Sep 15, 2006 at 1:25 am

    Well, it is 12:17 am and I am sitting here waiting on my bread to rise to go into the oven. I decided in a moment of sheer idiocy to bake loaves of bread to go with the decorated jars of apple butter that I will be selling at my yard sale. (From my apples) Anyway, I baked 12 loaves after laying all of the sale stuff out and I still have a garage full of stuff that my sister-in-law dropped off at 10 tonight. I don’t believe I will be going to bed as I have to get all of that stuff onto tables.

    But the bread sure smells good. I may have to sample one. Santini, I love your parody, but I have to say that the tune floats through my head and makes me a little sad. My daughter was a top ten winner at our state Miss America preliminary and the theme was Elvis (actually, she was top ten with our present Miss America at state). The DVD uses “I’m All Shook Up” as the background music. It was such an awesome time and a thrill but now she is grown and in her own place. My how time flies. But your words are a hoot.

    Marge, so far so good. Supposed to be sun tomorrow and I have already sold enough to pay for that entertainment center and I haven’t even had the sale yet!!!! People have been calling all day about stuff. I am excited. Y’all have a great weekend and I’ll check back with you later.

  • 149 conserve-a-tip // Sep 15, 2006 at 1:29 am

    Ms Rightwing, INK, I hate to hear about all that you are going through. I can’t imagine. You are a real trooper.

    Yes, I am excited about the stove. My kitchen in seafoam green and so it will really be pretty in it. I am familiar with Lehmann’s from the Y2K days and actually purchased some stuff from them. I remember those stoves. Yes, they are pricey. This one belonged to the mother of the lady from whom I am purchasing it. She was using it until about 5 years ago! Then her mom passed away and it has been in storage since. I like to know where my antiques come from. It makes them more personal.

  • 150 JamesonLewis3rd // Sep 15, 2006 at 5:48 am

    I’m not Catholic, nevertheless, I find it incongruous that there are Muslims Enraged by Pope’s Remarks on Spreading Islam by Violence.

    For one thing, they obviously didn’t hear or read the Pope’s entire statement. For another thing, I haven’t heard or read any “enraged” denouncement of the “conversion” at gunpoint of those newsguys the other day.

  • 151 Darthmeister // Sep 15, 2006 at 7:36 am

    JL3.

    How’s this for a headline:

    Pope Forces Conversions at Gunpoint: Says its for their own good.

    Jerry Falwell Hijacked Jetliner In Name of Holy War, Slams Into Meccan Mosque

    Christianity Is The Religion of Peace: Christians Threaten To Riot and Kill Anyone Who Disagrees

    The Christian Street Demands More Respect: Will Behead Any Godless Pagan Who Disrespects Them

    Christian Martyrs Kill Another 50 People in Homocide Bombing, Claim It’s the Rest of the World’s Fault.

    I wonder how many “open-minded” liberal secular/atheists would come to the rescue of Christendom by claiming, as they do about Islam, that Christianity has been hijacked by a few radicals and actually its the religion of peace because Jesus, its founder, was clearly a man of peace (unlike Mohammed). Buwahahahahahaha….I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for that to happen. Even among conservative atheists there is a latent animosity toward Christianity which has proven to be a very benign force given the power it has historical had to utterly destroy entire peoples or the world itself - particularly in the nuclear age. It’s far more benign than the atheist regimes of the 20th Century that slaughtered close to 200 million civilians in the name of its godless (communist/socialist), sometimes pagan (Nazis) ideology.

    I am convinced the ONLY REASON liberals have become apologist for Islamic fundamentalists (and we mustn’t forget, 95% of all Muslims are devout fundamentalists) is because they see in Islam/radical Islam a militant force which could give the Bush Administration and America a comeuppance which might in turn usher them into power. For decades now, the bulk of liberalism has become very hostile to western values and traditions which in turn are based on a long-standing Judeo-Christian worldview. That’s why liberals and modern seculars so despise Christendom and Judaism, because the civilization and rights they enjoy is the direct result of the efforts and sacrifices of our Christian ancestors.

  • 152 Hawkeye // Sep 15, 2006 at 8:49 am

    Darth,

    Amen brother! Couldn’t have said it any better myself.

    Regards…

  • 153 mig // Sep 15, 2006 at 9:46 am

    Send them to Iraqi prisons and listen to them beg to be taken back by Americans.

  • 154 mig // Sep 15, 2006 at 9:47 am

    oops, wrong thread….

  • 155 The Great Santini // Sep 15, 2006 at 2:34 pm

    UNL:

    Thanks for the kind words-and go, Fighting Sioux! [Bleep] the NCAA for trying to force a name change on their intercollegiate teams! As Custer learned, too late, you don’t mess with Sioux who are upset enough to fight.

    c-a-t:

    I hear ya. I can remember watching Elvis and his backup band/vocalists, the Jordanaires, perform “All Shook Up” on “The Ed Sullivan Show” on our black-and-white TV, while my sisters swooned and my Dad gritted his teeth. If I recall correctly, Elvis also sang “Hound Dog” (with an uninterested Bassett hound on camera) and “Don’t Be Cruel” on the same show.

    They didn’t call Elvis “The King” for nothin’.

    Beerme:

    Brewski…white Caddy…brewski…white Caddy..hm-m-m-m…I’ll have the suds, and thanks!

    §[:-)]

  • 156 R.A.M. // Sep 15, 2006 at 10:04 pm

    Santini: When Elvis sang “Hound Dog” to the hound, it was on The Steve Allen Show.

    Not meaning to correct you, just saw it recently on a Elvis biography show. I believe they said he was on Allen’s show before Sullivan’s show.

  • 157 The Great Santini // Sep 15, 2006 at 10:32 pm

    R.A.M.

    Thanks for the clarification. I remember both shows, but not Elvis being on the Allen show. I definitely remember him on the Sullivan show because his hip gyrations sent everyone into a tizzy . I must’ve telescoped Elvis’s appearances on both shows,, similar to Slick Willie’s telescoping his terrorism nonfeasance, 1992-2000. Unlike Slick, I’m not claiming your account is “inaccurate”.

    §[:-)]

  • 158 R.A.M. // Sep 15, 2006 at 11:15 pm

    Santini: I wanted to make sure about this, so I Googled it. Turns out Elvis was on Milton Berle first, (actually The Dorsey brothers show first, but “Uncle Miltie” was Mr. Television at this time 1956), then Steve Allen, then Ed Sullivan. He was paid $7500.00 by Allen, and $50,000.00 for three appearances on Sullivan. Info is at:

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/television/2003237803_elvistv03.html

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